#assassination
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ye just wondered cuz outlaws biggest flaw is its targetcap aint it
Brb food
Biggest flaw, or perk to some i guess, is prob the coke habit req to play the spec
outlaw's biggest flaw is utterly crumbling when forced to do a mechanic requiring you to lose uptime
Outlaws biggest flaw is existing
i like outlaw, i dont like farming back AR

On mythic Stix are y'all just relying on caustic spatter for add DMG or are y'all actively going out and applying bleeds/dpsing them. Specifically the bombshells
lock in on boss
Depends on if someone calls for a far bombshell
my comp is extremely melee heavy so tank is dragging to nearby bombshells
swap target is no bueno
!fok
Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:
- Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up: - Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up: - Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization
The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements
but i am just hitting boss
But otherwise slam boss
how many stacks magnet will be
our only prog block at this point is ball rollers not picking up scrapmasters or running into bombshells
the adds get mulched instantly
Seems to be the standard
press end of lingering iirc
stacks dont matter, press
Unless it's an add out in the middle of nowhere free casting
you should hold for as many stacks as possible, send at the very end of LD
its not like you lose uses
our add dam all night on stix
i feel like fire mage should be higher
Assuming that's average amongst all pulls
its total for all pulls last night
Also no boomkin feelsbad
Yeah this fight feels like shit if u don't have the right classes
imagine spreading for fire circles with 9 melee
3 boomkins, 3 spriests mandatory
Would literally have to run 16 ranged for it to not
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
!up
God i love this
good weekend too you all
SHowed this to my raid leader and he loved it
He was so distracted by the message in the bottom left tho
Cause that's his old rl
Or smth
stix bomb gifs will never get old
Verstappen my goat
cant beat our monk
the reason im asking, its because I change to fury warrior, and its foking horrible to be 5 target capped
so im thinking of coming back to rogue
i main fury warrior and your absouletly right i wished we got a 6 -7 cap
man sucks bc i really likde the fury playstyle
Sorry for a dumb question but I've never had a weapon crafted before:
When crafting everforged stabber, You use the Darkmoon Sigil: Ascension of highest quality + Enchanted Gilded Harbinger crest, right? Which Missive do you use? Peerless(crit+mastery) ?
Peerless is fine yeah
it really doesn't matter, but if you want to squeeze every last 0.05% out, sim it
Secondary stats on weapons are so low anyways that it doesnt really matter
aight š ty! and the ilevel will be 675 as long as i use highest quality of the other mats(fang, weapon wrap and alloys) right? š
oh i see
just put out a LF BS message in trade chat, you'll instantly get 3-6 messages
You need highest quality yes, otherwise they have to use concentration, which they often charge more for than the cost of the r3 mats anyway
Public order can sometimes fuck you over
nice, good to know! thanks a lot š
So guys, i played assasination on season 1, did rotation change for this season?
you're better off reading up on the changes on wowhead and in the pins on this channel
whispyr also put out a few videos on it
cool
mostly very similar though
!hero
Fatebound is slightly worse than Deathstalker in pure single target, but is over 20% worse in mythic+ because of its talent design nerfing itself with more aoe
Fatebound: Instant damage, is easy to play, can remove some buttons from the rotation, little to no added gameplay
Deathstalker: Introduces gameplay, Singular focus adds big priority damage, suffers from bugs and marks being hard to juggle sometimes
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
- Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
Does anyone actually irl play fatebound? Sims are close but why is it. A huge majority plays deathstalker?
yea i'm a real coin flipping freak irl
fatebound is world worse in everything that is not 100% ST
and turns out, most people dont like the "class fantasy" of "flip coins and pray for streaks to do dmg"
Would be pretty nice if it actually was way better in ST
Exactly its just SHIT
the fact that its literally rng ina game where consistent performance is important
Dry shiv op
is just soooo stupid
I played it a bit last tier on reclears just for the dopamine of random high streaks lol
@spice spire are we still FoKing at 2 targets ?
I have a 660 toon, if I want to gear a alt fast, how would you do it guys
spend a week doing keys
!fok
Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:
- Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up: - Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up: - Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization
The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements
ty
Yw
what the hell
This russian tank redeamed the horrid ones i got today, genuinly best taking of this dungeon i've seen all season
What do you mean
Rogues are sneaky
That's the whole point
You can't even see me there
Real talk tho hunter
Just posted it here cause i was happy
Mine might have been without blindside dunno if that sims much higher in dslice
Don't have iron wire in either hybrid or bleed for me
Craft enchanted Weathered crest gear, 629 in all slots pretty easily
what about the ring from 10.0.5 its possible to skip that and just get it?
Weekly delves and then start m+ spamming
Also had the most terrifying thing as we wiped last boss
you skip most of the grind, they give you the upgrade quests one after another and you can buy the gems you need on your main
Mum comes in and says
āHey internets gonna be down in a few minutes, I donāt know when but it will beā
I have to learn to read now? I might be foked
Real
Whatup fellow stabbers
I see lots of people using KB in keys but when I sim it its choosing the bleed build without KB?
i just wanna double triple check cuz u never know. this says "fan of knives if bleeds already on all targets". thats what i was doing spending 80 gcds bleeding up a pull like first pull workshop. i then asked abt it, and was told u only need to bleed 5-6 basically for ur scent of blood and energy gains, and then u send. but according to this its slightly conflicting.
am i pressing like garrote garrote rupture (sbs sends) rupture fok ct send cds for like first pull meadery/workshop/etc?
or am i pressing 15 gcds garrote rupturing every single mob and then cding?
Building with stealth garrote if targets dont have garrote is good
Its moreso that rupture doesnt do that much damage so you only really want 5-6 out
ok so after i have 5 mobs ruptured, i continue to garrote garrote in ic, and then spend on env's on the caustic spatter target w my cds. and THEN once all 18 mobs have garrote, and 5 mobs have rupture, THEN i just fok
You'd send cds still, but you'd just build with garrotes instead of fok
Obviously dont need to dot stuff thats not prio targets if they die early anyway from cleave but workshop is pretty even in terms of mob health
house of cards trinket on lorrgs is labeled as a turtle box lol
š¢ š®
Holy shit itās a turtle box
23002 is turtle box, and 230027 is house of cards
but i don't know who the right person is to fix it, just thought i'd share
I reported it in Lorrgs channel
now we just need a log review where somebody is summoning Speedy in their CDs
Caustic Spatter and FoK interact with each other right? Also do we just send Junkmaestro on CD?
If that's the magnet one, send it during lingering darkness
Aight, so dont macro it with DM
anyone has had the bug where you envenom on 7 with DN, the target moves as you do the envenom you do the damage but DN procs again?
whats the best to drop for iron wire? ma?
Sim
ye it's a common bug not much you can do about it if boss yeets away as you press
Depends on the build
Bleed itās MA, hybrid likely going to be SB; however, it depends on how youāre trying to play the key as well idk man vibe it
at this point, if i know the group can handle interrupts, i just run bleed without iron wire, but if i think i'm gonna have to carry the key i play hybrid
i can't bring myself to unspec SBS
yes
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
In how high keys would you convert from bleed build to hybrid?
Change talents
anyone know any script/mod for plater highlighting target with deathstalker mark please?
Boss?
i have
you run the delve buid or raid build
m+
There is a WA for it
No wonder the mobs after first boss in rookery 15 were one shotting shit, they were buffed by an extra 10%
just dont die
We didnāt thankfully and timed but jesus
80% hp through evasion/feint
Is kinda wild
Sorry if this has been asked 50 times or posted a ton, what are the conditions of playing bleed vs poison in m+? Trying to gauge when I'd run either if I start doing sin keys this season instead of just spamming sub in everything
Yall see the bug fix they just put put saying that Fortified was causing non boss adds to deal more damage than intended lol?
If youāre at a key level where you can get good caustic value and prio targets are surviving your dm+kb burst, then hybrid will be slightly better
When im in a "make a polished game" competition and my opponent is blizzard activision
Thanks Whispyr, so in my low dog keys (12-14ish) I just go to regular ole bleed
Thatās typically where people will try and swap but you can run it Yeah
lol 12-14 is crazy high if you consider the general population of the game
!macros
I still need to give bleed build a proper try one day.
!macro
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
Sure sure but if you consider the giga brainers in the rogue discord I think it's not omega high
Also that range is where I'll likely plateau š¤£
bro resilient keys are so good
can fuck up the first pull mechagon 20x
just reset and go again
Youāre unironically probably like top 25-30 in here if youāre doing 15ās
how do we get this automatic sipping of thistle tea to be removed this is truly degenerate why did they add this
15s nah, I doubt I'll even juice all the 14s, just aim to get all of them done for the season and that'd be the highest I'd gotten before
They added it to remove a button from our hot bar
Donāt go below 30 energy
Thatās how you remove it
I mean you should go below
im very thankful for the removal of buttons like snd but I kinda like pressing tea
You should. But if you want to not. Donāt but auto tea legit doesnāt matter
You macro and chuckle
!up
when streams
gonna be hard to stream with 0.1 upload
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ewr2gFZR5riArFVT9yYgF4 , Hi guys, I've tried to sim to see what gems are the best/enchant and nothing showed up on the sim, does mean I have the best ones for me? not too sure
Just stream by sending printouts of your screen to all your viewers
Does someone have good plater settings for m+ to see on which mobs i have my dots ? Im to dumb to do it by myself .. š
!plater
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
has anyone a cool rogue individual weakaura setting for abilities ? š i dont like the packs out there and iam not so comfortable with creating a own one
u want abilities, but not a pack that has the abilities, but dont want to create your own? š¤
prolly search wago for what specifically you want?
Fuck
Just depleted a 12 FG
killed final boss w time but was at 99% on ads
Tank missed 1 thing
You didnāt āreplace existingā
Running now
must be nice
ty
i get configurations that required advanced trigonometry to solve efficiently
Itās not done yet but itās churning - here you go https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9QvER3GvamWsijdpxnwXUP
no i want a own made pack from someoneš
5k gains 
WHy doesnt it show Caustic in Whispyrs Plater ? Bug ?
It does
Itās off to the right
Guys ... Do I go all in with my Sin Rogue as 2nd main alt or My Ele shaman.
Thought discuss.
Both have 4 set
what's ur main and 1st alt?
Do whatever you want and whatever brings more joy to you big dog
tyvm, yes i had wrong gems š
Thereās nothing that we should say that effects your opinion of those toons unless itās like neck and neck
You are my joy š
Warlock Main. MM/Survival 2nd.
Idk if Iād change for 5k BUT everyone is different! Glad to help!
There you can see on my WA that Caustic is active but not on the Plater Profil

in that case, my view - try diff class, tank or healer spec. nice to try diff things
why do you need it
in multiple places

!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
Yes not in that place but when i swap target to dot something else to see it which mob hast caustic on it
im 100% positive whispyr's plater changes the hp color for the caustic marked target
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
i yoinked that mod from his plater and put it into mine
also why check caustic, wouldn't you rather want deathstalkers mark?
i stole this mod from whispyr's plater profile
anwyay i added deathstalker's mark as a buff special to my plater
so you should be able to find it too
the whispyr plater shows caustic as green, deathstalker as purple, and when they are both on same target its like a brown i think
oh nice, didnt know that was there - i was thinking of using colour chagne for ruptures (or garrotes) jsut to more easily see what's done and whats not - but wondered if that would make it too colourful
i track ruptures via icons on the hp bars
ya, i do too - but i need to make em bigger or more noticable for myself
how do u copy mods?
export/import
yes
ok ty ty
i know these packs all, but i thougt maybe someone has a customized one which is cooler
Oh plater! I donāt use his thatās my apologies!
This bleed build everyone is talking about - is that the one on Wowhed without KB?
yes
oh this is good! I added it to my jundies
now i can figure out if i want to use it and/or configure it
i remove the deathmark glow personally
help i was checking my stuff and idk what i clicked but i made the window super big
oh Scale i see it now sorry
Scale at top left
š cheers
For me rookery might be like the hardest key this season if i'm going deplete wise
those giga succ boys in front of the second boss is the most dastardly thing i've seen in a dungeon
oh it's here, lmao
what level?
ya, take ironwire for sure there
unfortunately ven is a TRAITOR
But casted feint
oh
I mean
Not my fault the season is a "fuck melee" season
pretty sure you told john to do it so you could justify going to bm

Bro fuck john blizzard and his antics
"i'm going BM send the update"
Smashed gally, feel like im doing well for first week š
Good job š«”
Otherwise i would have 5/8 12s done
John blizzard laughs upon thee
i feel so weird typing stuff when people are mid convo
xD
Imma fuck John Blizzard in the ass
Donāt
i'm not an io haver this season
Thatās this channel
Nono thats just me
Feels rude af , so sorry any1
great! now link log so we can bully you
I talk way to much
i just do my vault
I GOT A 93
Like you could block me to ignore clutter and i wouldn't blame you
Real melee players zug it out šŖ
Most conversations generally donāt matter and are just for friends
yeah link the log so we can bully you
nooo, dw xD
nothing i say matters
You changed
Previously youād say some filter words
You already bullied my poison knife
I mean heās right
and ill do it again
Thugging it out with my zug out š³
a goat doesnt hold back
mean panda
God ur so real for that varas
WUT THE FUCKING SHIT IS THIS LOG https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Rdwgya2QZ4CWJVxb?fight=8&type=damage-done
Please ignore varas Jayda
Wanna kiss or
He is the local asshole
i am so ready
aha
Me when i go into the forest and see a funky tree stump
is he even playing rogue this season
its friday and i can drink
i heard varas is also a traitor
Is he even playing WOW this season
That is a dungeon log š
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/95431617?difficulty=1&boss=3016 here u go ā¤ļø only lfr tryina make them nice colours xD
is that John Halo's cousin?
Send it then doll face
One step at a time now xD
holy moly the opener is good!
I recommend against complimenting Varas
he's not used to people being nice to him
he thrives with abuse
Top right - both talents master assassin + improved garrote; remove them and put both points in vicious venoms
I know a few that are the same, thats just how they are, xD cant change their crazyness xD
case in point, @subtle tundra fuck you
Thatās the change
dont get me hard,babe
Varas is a good lad

you don't even know varas like I do
we play poe together
our bond is forged in self hatred

@spice spire where's your rsvp you fuck
stop log reviewing and start RSVPing
or I'mma r s v p on you
Bro i still can't fucking get over
I literally told you need to plan my flights with Megan this eeekend and then Iām rsvping
Itās gonna be Saturday night
Can assa work with outlaw stars??
Better ? š
The fact thati posted damage logs from a key
and some dude just said he was shocked it was time due to damage
Wait Sunday
jokes on you I can't read
Perfect, good job.
Ty ty
Nah itās fine I forgor about my Saturday plans. So itāll be early early Sunday. But once everything is set. Iām so fucking ready
ask them if they know what a sit rat is, when they respond with "what's a sit rat?" hit them with "sit you fucking rat"
@livid marlin you played better in this log than a lot have after multiple log reviews... nah man dont send any more logs idk what to flame
Excited to kiss you on the altar xoxo
Y-YOUR 2ND POT WASNT USED WITH CDS.
Oh wow, think that might be the nicest thing you have ever said, ty <33
go back to bed
BAD
i have a macro
i just use them like that
i aint 2 binding for normal and with pot
xD
random ass pot
now thats a new one
oh just bind it with deathmark
pot macro with shiv
err macro it with deathmark
bro
wowhead
is doing me dirty
wrong gems, wrong macro
xD

yeah that's because whispyr is special
damn your trinkets suck
Yeah they do
Isnt this good
i mean i only been playing for not even a week xD
@livid marlin did you use the free hc crafting crest on anything? you have 2 645 crafted
you should have a free one
DOOONT FLAME ME
i did dagger then recrafted higher
š
nothing to flame you about
its hc crest
useless
also you didnt craft an int weapon
like some have

i mean now thats crazy
i double check, i learnt from buying pvp tier twice last season ..
bro
i also did that once
why are you calling us out like that
I never got my free hc crafting crest
fuck you varas
š¤Ø
i have it and never used it
I have these
ok?
but some are veteran sooooo
I used it on bracers
Call me grass?
true i havent
I still love you varas
i need to go out
my romanian habibi
i want to buy things to start painting
come to my wedding, you can make out with @spice spire at midnight
olalala

Spinning crane drink
windwanking
jorkin
more of a jelqer myself

get slandered
lol
step in a puddle then blame me you got wet
@balmy condor been having a look at your colour debuffs mod for plater. is it customisable? Like I'd like to consider adding rupture and garrote (maybe) and removing some of the other stuff
I always blame you when Iām wet bbgirl
what u got to say for the gems?
you'd need to know lua for that
what's wrong with the gems
mast/crit good
bro what the fuck is a "loo-ahh"
damn
Itās not a permanent thing on whatās best for you
my sim wants vers haste
prolly cause I swapped a ring from mast/vers to mast/crit
idk
I just work here
Stats arenāt real they canāt hurt me
Except I need a fuck ton of mastery for signet
Hey guys whats the talent code for M+?
Whats the best one currently, i think it's Bleed, right?
a screenshot would suffice š
Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
Wowhead is blocked where I am currently
CMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMjZmZGmBAAAAAAYWMmtZAAAAAAottZmBzMGzMzysMGDmZmZGMzMbbLjZA2MLDMglglhJwwyA
Thanks, seems Turkey has wowhead blocked for some reason
Ahh
it does, yes
But thats not the bleed build I don't think, not too sure
CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeMjZmZGmx2MAAAAAAMLD2mBAAAAAg2WmZGMzgZmZZ2GzMYmZmZwMzsZZMDwmZZgBsEsMMBGWA
few other ME countries do too iirc
This what most use in big keys
Yeah I was about to say, is it not this?
Btw
That looks like raid, no caustic spatter in that
@livid marlin
thats full ST
i love it
me?
not bad only does 400k less dps than a highroll hunter
uhh the talents people have sent in dont match what is here?
Theres alot of builds, but the one I send was the one thats on the cheat sheet on wowhead talents for m+
you sent a screenshot of raid ST talents, the one linked by someone else above is full AoE bleed, I sent the hybrid build used in big keys because it has good aoe and boss dmg
Depends what build your after, hybrid? bleeds etc
Thatās the hybrid
Let me pull the bleed build
Which is what Janna is looking for
CMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYmZMzMmBAAAAAAYWMmtZAAAAAAottZmBzMGzMzysMYMmZmZmZmZYzyYGgNzyADYJYZYCMsMA
thats the bleed build
i have the perfect class for you
Im only asking about the bleed build because I think it's been buffed, right? Heard some chatter that it's now BiS build for M+
What is it ...
Both were buffed
But now bleed takes blindside
Which helps its st a bit
ESP if youāre getting lucky
Right so it's still up to debate on which to go for
hybrid doesn't have notably higher prio damage
link post from 5 am
Ok gotchya, thanks guys
Usually we have the builds in the pinned
apologies i had to ask here
boomkin?
So is my m+ also wrong?
I have the bleed build, shall I change anything, them two talents, or no for m+
ty ty
im allowed to ambush with a blindside proc right, its not bugged like on outlaw where its better to consume it with sinister strike
it'll replace mutilate button with ambush
Blideside = ambush
ok thats not what im sayign
Mutilate = meow
Is there an order of getting Tier-Set pieces, if u already have similar ilvl for everything
I also have another question, if anyone doesn't mind answering, but I dno what build to use for each boss, would anyone be able to guide, some I do single, or mythic+ build, not sure what bosses to cleave on?
I know mutilate get replaced but, for outlaw, audacity replace ss with a better ambush than normal ambush, so if you consume auda with ambush instead of ss you are trolling
situationally avoiding chest/helm

what the fuck
hahah good u said this I was literally about to get a chest

ok from your reaction i assume its not a thing for assa
thanks
i can press my ambush bind then
goated + 1 bind
this on everything, swap caustic for internal bleeding on lockenstock
CT in ST or not ?
tyvmmmm
m+
CT is only in ST without amp
not gonna pull teeth
So this is what we should be running in M+?
RAID
woops
mama mia man
no like my blizzard sinister strike gets replaced for ambush we can do that
no friggen way
what did you say
aaaa explodes
but yes, i have ambush on a button and sinister strike on another and audacity proc turns both into ambush
sorry for the stupid question but what do you mean with amp ? Just rerolled to assa so i have no clue š
so a macro for sinister strike with that proc is stonks lmao
Ah ok ^^
So when Iām running my m+ bleed builds I want to ct on single target? Since Iām avoiding the middle of the tree for the most part
if your m+ build doesn't take amp poison then yes
Been playing around with bleed build a bit in 14/15s
The ST is like identical to lethalityx2 or normal hybrid with subt
Feels like theres no reason not to play it xd
Btw to take IW u drop 2 shivs yeah?
Gabagool spec nothing matters crab guild when
you can, generally would recommend dropping bone spike/doomblade or master assassin though
arterial shivs are kinda important
kb
By dropping two yeah
doomblade is in the second gate
so that goes to iron wire
and bone spike is in the third gate
so you just grab kb
Whispyr I just want to let you know that i read your pinned messages 3 times a week 
Whispyr I just want to let you know that i read your pinned messages 0 times a week
It says blindside 2target you use mut, but i assume ctw is still consumed in all target counts
!fok
Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:
- Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up: - Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up: - Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization
The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements
Ah new command pog
!chainpull
Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:
- For starters, "Chain pulls" are NOT when the tank pulls a new pack with 1% hp remaining on the previous mobs. That is called "Bad Tanking", and it sucks for everyone in your party.
- Correct Chain pulls usually happen while the previous pack is still alive and not dangerous. This increases uptime on more targets, which is the biggest increase in DPS for the entire party. This is also the biggest reason why you see high key level players doing so much damage.
- Garrote is roughly 7-9% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
- Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
- Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon, but does allow for holding vanish for large chain pulls which improves the quality of each vanish
- You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.
that's not new
It didnāt exist for a bit
Maybe that was the issue previously
Whispyr, I am using your season 1 plater, is it hard to import the important mob markings without fucking up everything else ( i mightve made changes to fonts and such etc etc)
I remember being unable to locate it one day when someone was asking
wtf
1+1
quick maths whatever
im not foking
Good news
fuck this
if you got to the NPC colors and names there's an export/import for that section specifically
been an assa main
since cata
bfa armor set lmao
An assa main wearing insane sub gear sheesh what can't this guy do
Okay sweet, cause i tried just updating and it fucked me over sidewise
plater exporting gives me a headache
wdym, its litteraly the same gear between the 2 specs
you were not born during cata
lies
Hehe thats the joke
is anyone already done with m+ ? this season seems too boring to push,
i dunno im having more fun this season than i did last season for some reason š¤·āāļø
I was done with the game since week 1
prob cuz i stepped down to 2 raid nights instead of 4 
ye like 3 darkest night procs on a fresh pack is pretty faceit 10 cal i strat lol
de_scorch dirtysecret defragen1 status
same, I'm having more fun in m+ this season than I have in the last 2 expansion
that's bold lie
i know that guy into a grand elucidation
i stopped raiding this season. i'm only raiding when they need to complete the 20 lol
but i used to like playing m+, not this season
Honestly kind of
I like jez a lot
And Iāve made her not tank
that's arguably worse
So sheās all but useless and 2k isnāt that bad
Sheās playing Ret
Itās hard to fuck ip
that's in-arguably worse
You need a suprising amount of haste with the new raid build
based
hit 2m on sprocket today with kir fatebound but that was for one pull with two 6 buffs, just roll sub and send hits
do you
already have 8k and it wants more
Man I am reading the rotation and it feels like assassination is hardest to play :0
It is not
Just bleed stuff then envenom
"wants more" brother the best ur getting there is +2893 dps and thats close to margin of error
good ui helps a lot
no, the sim says margin is 1050 dps
Time to spend 14k regemming for margin of error 
Am I supposed to keep rupture up on all mobs?
it's within margin to like 8 other combinations
but it's not in margin of his equipped
why does envenom sometimes do MASSIVE amounts of damage and other times LOW amounts of damage?
(when am i supposed to cast envenom š )
would assume probably darkest night
buffs
plater tracks bleeds but you also want more precision for your current target, tracking amp poison is troll, if you're out of teas constantly it's other dps making ur life hard or it's theatre of pain
envenom is your filler though
im talking like 200k to 4m
so you should be casting it pretty much all the time
you're "supposed" to press envenom with 5+ cp and 7cp with DN
yeah that sounds reasonable
goes higher with a dry shiv!
across all of these pulls on tuesday with the damage amp on vexie and stuff
the spread is literally like 400k to 25mil
Should garotte be on one mob or ad many mobs as I can put it on?
improved garrotes on everything, normal garrotes on your main target
vexie amp go brrr
Like can I tie it to rupture? Like shadow strike and backstab
what
you want 5 ruptures for scent of blood in m+, at minimum enough for your energy sustain
don't bother spreading normal garrotes
improved garrotes go on everything
maintain CT, maintain caustic on your main target
press cooldowns, spam envenom
rinse repeat for the entire key
That doesnāt sound too bad put that way
it's not even the highest I've seen 
I'll make it even one step easier for your opener
your opener is always ambush first for the mark, spread bleeds (gar/rup/tempest), mutilate your target, cooldowns, envenom spam
(it's the same thing as the priority
)
i only got 2 x 12s. cant get into any others š¦
if you have darkest night and ambus won't give you instant mark on the next pull, do you prioritize an 7 CP envenom over bleeds?
no
Hello guys, got a few questions regarding the Bleed build on Wowhead:
-If a target already has Crimson Tempest applied, is there any benefit of casting it again?
-If using Internal Bleeding, should ai only be using Envenom during Deathmark? Not using Kingsbane or Caustic Spatter.
-Should I use Shiv before or after Deathmark with this build?
dn envenoms take prio over single target rupture if it's up, but during carnage you get 3 ruptures so the combo points are better spent on that
internal bleeding what
only time you would prio the darkest night envenom would be if you're going to lose the buff and then lose the mark
cause obviously losing your entire hero talent sucks
it sure does
i've probably been incorreclty still ambushing whhich eventually gives you the mark whhen DN falls off
- no
- untalent internal bleeding, but if you have it for some fucked reason, you still spam envenom, internal bleeding is just tiny extra damage when you rupture and nothing else
- after, in aoe you would shiv after your CT for the bleed damage
honestly ambushing at the start for 1 gcd is pretty much always worth it in practice
man looking at vexie logs
that is
an insane envenom
Just hit for 32m lul
I think my highest has been like 28m
When a pull is started and you are not in stealth and canāt use indiscriminate carnage, to spread the bleeds target by target how many CP should you cast Rupture
somebody in here the other night said they had one in the 40mil's
Is there anything else in the game right now that hits as hard as a fully amped up envenom?
i think i was running internal bleeding this whole time, wasn't sure if caustic was the play
5
in m+?
you're insane
oh
imagine lol
yeah this guy is talking about m+
oh oh okay
Yeah but is he friends with me?
What kinda win is that
fuck 5min sims, aim for 8-10 Minutes for last 3 bosses 
ye that tracks, barrels gotta go lmao
ngl in heroic i just leave caustic on for sprocket too cuz if i ever remembered to swap off it, i probably wouldnt remember to swap back to either 
i want a dinosaur monke
how are you supposed to handle prio targets in raid like the barrels on rik reverb, just run over, apply bleeds and envenom?
feels kinda bad

you don't
you play assa, you hit the boss 
like unironically
wen u simian sphere the gorilla
the prio target is the boss bruv
ok cool thats the answer i wanted
Recruit more WW monks
on rik you could technically play CT if your raid leader is a cockhead dense fucker
i'll be handing this in to my RL like a doctors note
but you lose a good amount of boss damage and the barrel spawns have to be obscenely good
i did that for approx 3 pulls before i almost vomited and just swapped back to the normal build
make sure its a handwritten note which he cant read cuz thats how doctors write 
On wowhead you mention that internal bleeding is acceptable if caustic spatter is too hard to track. My brain is smooth as a bowling ball
yeah for like absolute beginners
i hate saying this for 10th time today but one armed bandit is an unoptimized mess on fire lol
i think a bowling ball could probably figure out how to use spatter
I feel like the bot needs a specific answer to Rik Reverb barrels. I've been here for like 2 days and already seen it asked 5 separate times.
On mythic prog you could do the chad thing and sacrifice a bit and swap in if the spawns rng is shitty, 2 envenoms or w/e you put out is better than 0 dmg imo
the answer is hit the boss unless you're gonna get benched then listen to your RL
gen pop of wow hasn't caught up but complaints are gonna roll in as time goes on lmao
this is a good idea hold on
anytime there's a boss with "prio adds" people come in here cuz their raid leaders get mad that they arent swapping, if the RL doesnt know how sin be, i think
Oh I know the answer, I don't switch targets ever. Gotta smooth brain that shit.
hit boss even if we wipe 30 times to barrel damage
not my problem 
idk also sprocket isn't great assassin fight ?_? we run out of teas and just hover dm/kb windows til he dies
too much dmg too much power 
None of them do. Very rarely do people give a fuck what other classes do. It boils down to whether your RL trusts your decision making or not
sprocket is prolly my best fight
it shouldn't take more than a few pulls of hard swapping for your RL to realize that wasn't the issue
that's how every fight works
we always run out of teas

expecting a ranged player to be ethical is a lesson in futility
gotta do what you can do to succeed
Switch for a few wipes and then refer them to the meters and show them the 20mil total damage you did to the barrels and explain that in that time you'd probably have done 30+mil to the boss.
(You murder them when a boss mechanic allows you to)
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i full kidney anyone who gets mced
This is why youāre one of my favorites
stay mad sin guy
Unless your RL is utterly stupid they'll realise that you're better off in your little DPS tunnel.
!
Sprocket polarities enters the chat
bruv we figured that mech out in NAXX RAM ASS
not a hard mech
I used to shadow step our boomkin on raszageth. I had a WA track his polarity buff separate from my other raid WAs

you can't shadowstep queen anseurek's giant spider rear is in the way
Everytime a wipe is called cloak and yeet the other group like a pin ball
a sigh
Based af
hey question if my bars dont automatically make mutilate ambush how would i write a macro that casts ambush if available mutilate if not 
or if you didnt crit enough in opener
blindside replaces mutliate
These bosses look like theyāll be rough as fuck for non top 100 guilds because they seem to require very specific comps
That is some unethical behavior
So might as well have fun with it
like
my mutilate cast
Yeah, but have you tried to shadow step on Gallywix?!
you are physically unable to cast a mutilate with a blindside proc
is actually an ambush
oh for sure
what abt in stealth tho
just put ambush on the same bind on your stealth bar
haven't done that in 2 weeks but ur mentioning it haha
just put ambush where your mutilate is on the stealth bar
[stance:0] mutilate
[stance:1] ambush
i dont get a stealth bar
you know what's funny is i still have ambush and mut on separate bindings because of back in the day and i just never replaced the old one i dont need anymore
i love u

Itās just cringe
no one asked
i dont have enough brain wrinkles to have a stealth bar
No one asked for your details either bozo
ur mad that ur not an m+ guy bozo
that should work I guess yeah
no rupture targets
@midnight mist asked

right zac
there's probably cleaner ways to do it
?
like uh lemme think
how does bartender not replace it though
i mean if it works it works
idk honestly
it just doesnt
i dont get a stealth bar either
bc fuck me
are you using bar 1
/cast [stance:1/2] Ambush; Mutilate
maybe might be a cleaner solution
idk
should all work the same
1,4,5,bonus
Can you either learn to type in less lines or calm the fuck down?
i mean i dont have a stealth bar either in elv cuz i turned that off
i feel like the simplest solution might just be deleting bartender
on purpose
lmao
Every syllable doesnāt require you to press enter champ
Get thrown under the bus bozo






