#assassination

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nova shadow
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mhm my highest output was on floodgate 10 and I think the tank was really good and it was like 3.2-3.4m something like that and I think its still low

gusty mirage
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I wouldn't worry too much about overall in pugs, trying to min-max your overall works better if you have a semi-set group

red schooner
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trying to stir whispyr from his slumber

dawn heath
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are the assa buffs real or a placebo

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maybe i've gotten 4% worse than last week

subtle tundra
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ergh it was a 41

warm vortex
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Holy shit is that koffing
Is that the generation 1 pokemon with levitate of the poison type

solar wyvern
spice spire
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First pull + right.
Double pull, double pull, double pull maybe a 4th? Boss.

Skip the pack on the right, pull the Pat with the suck mob. Then double pull. Then big pull, then the smallest pull of the dungeon, the double suck mobs.

Next go all the way to the big rock guy. Then you singular pull the orb on the right of the boss. Double pull the mobs on the long side of the boss. Then single pull on far side

gusty mirage
shrewd night
gusty mirage
grim jay
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still remember the old times

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when he was still a small daddy

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lurking with the regulars

stuck knoll
shrewd night
gusty mirage
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where's the quakestep emotes

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we have whispyr step and pushstep

spice spire
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Please cease

gusty mirage
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@stuck knoll wow a private server without me

grim jay
spice spire
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Which is like 48s eu

stuck knoll
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Blame Justin

grim jay
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ah 48 alright

gusty mirage
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fere?

stuck knoll
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Ye

spice spire
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Ye

gusty mirage
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imagine using his government nme

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wild

shrewd night
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Ima move all the steps into that server, its kinda sus having it on mine KEKW

gusty mirage
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WTF

grim jay
stuck knoll
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I will drop @rigid mango full govy at the drop of a hat

gusty mirage
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I miss zine

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😦

spice spire
shrewd night
stuck knoll
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I met him last weekend

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He came to Dublin

gusty mirage
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lmao bozo

shrewd night
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Get this, right, Oxi. He goes to a concert with zine. But he only takes me out to lunch

spice spire
shrewd night
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There are LEVELS to friendship

gusty mirage
spice spire
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Ronkles loves us tf you mean

shrewd night
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Yeah, we went m+ last night and he got so angry with me

gusty mirage
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man he's toxic

stuck knoll
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I WAS CALLING YOU SHEN IN PERSON

gusty mirage
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oh shit

grim jay
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dang

subtle tundra
shrewd night
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YOU MAKE IT SOUND LIKE ID EVER CALL YOU RUARUREOIHAOGRI

gusty mirage
subtle tundra
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or uh 20.5h

stuck knoll
gusty mirage
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you never grabbed lunch with me

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JUST FLY HALFWAY ACROSS THE GLOBE

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GOD

stuck knoll
grim jay
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thought oxi is the rich guy

gusty mirage
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dog I'm a broke bitch

grim jay
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private jet and all

stuck knoll
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Tbf my brother got an erasmus term in Cornell so I’m gonna go visit him

gusty mirage
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I live in a third world country

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how can I be rich?

stuck knoll
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And maybe I stop by POG

grim jay
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same

gusty mirage
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you think the USA is a first world country? LMAO

subtle tundra
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meow

grim jay
subtle tundra
grim jay
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smh my head

gusty mirage
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I paid $1000 deposit for my surgery

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and just got $1800 in bills sent to me

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AFTER the $1000

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for the insurance that I pay $300 a month for

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how much would that have cost you bud

grim jay
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nothing

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probably

gusty mirage
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yeah fuck you

grim jay
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well wait

gusty mirage
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I'm waiting

grim jay
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you dont pay as much in taxes

gusty mirage
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I don't?

grim jay
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you got the money

warm vortex
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Omg

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Just hit a dummy for a bit

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They really fucking buffed mutilate

gusty mirage
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1/3 of my check goes to taxes lmao

warm vortex
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Huh

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haha

stuck knoll
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Yuh

shrewd night
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Same

subtle tundra
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damn

gusty mirage
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considering yall pay like 40% and get free healthcare and affordable school?

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you really wanna debate this?

iron vapor
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USA is a third world country with a Gucci belt

grim jay
gusty mirage
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^

grim jay
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bozo

stuck knoll
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I haven’t made enough money to reach that bracket Sinscheme

iron vapor
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it's only first world if you're rich

warm vortex
coral ibex
shrewd night
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Its ok oxi, all your tax money is being spent on creating a monopoly of bitcoins

warm vortex
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Most of my money is just sitting in my bank

gusty mirage
warm vortex
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I barely spend any money at all

coral ibex
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they are literally buying bitcoin and shitcoins with OUR TAX DOLLARS

warm vortex
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Minus fucking train tickets >:(

gusty mirage
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can I get deported already

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I'm pretty sure somewhere in Europe will take me

warm vortex
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God i can't wait until i pass my driving test

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No more trains

coral ibex
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brother you will end up in an el salvadorian prison with the cartel

shrewd night
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Deport yourself and Mrs Oxi to norway

grim jay
gusty mirage
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at least food will be free

warm vortex
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Just move to some random island in the middle of butt-fuck nowhere and live a very happy life

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No more wow

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No more politics

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No more discord

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Just a guy and his house

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Or a monkey and his house

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In this case

gusty mirage
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you could've just stopped at no more wow and I was sold

iron vapor
shrewd night
warm vortex
gusty mirage
coral ibex
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you are describing dragon ball tbh

grim jay
warm vortex
gusty mirage
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you can't survive on $3 an hour?

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just work harder

warm vortex
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Bro tescos pays you fucking more than that

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Shokcing

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Genuinly

grim jay
warm vortex
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Yea true

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Most people can't get that sorta job anyway

gusty mirage
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idk I know a bartender that makes bank every weekend

warm vortex
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So it's not good as a standard

shrewd night
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Nah, nah, just remove tax from tips and watch all prices sink as people get offered discounts if they leave x amount of dollars in tips

gusty mirage
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he makes legit $1200-$1500 every weekend

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mfer is chillin

iron vapor
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you absolutely CAN take the worst paid job as the rule

warm vortex
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Funny watching people in like

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Brazil n shit

iron vapor
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that's the BEST measure of how healthy an economy is

warm vortex
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Draw porn and farm wow gold and make more money than like 70% of the population

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Know someone who draws stuff and like

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2 drawings is like

iron vapor
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if you're reliant on borderline slave labour then you're not doing so great

warm vortex
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More than most people earn in a day

spice surge
warm vortex
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Is an exageration

gusty mirage
warm vortex
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Just cause a lot of people are saying how difficult it is to get jobs atm

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I've had one since i have been 16 tho

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and if i finish uni in like

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2027

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Thats a lot of work experiance :D

grim jay
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iirc

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the unemployment rate

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in america

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is lower than in germany

warm vortex
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This better be the funnest fact

grim jay
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for example

gusty mirage
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the unemployment rate in america automatically negates 5% of the population

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because it's assumed at minimum 5% of the population will be unemployed at all times

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so when you see a figure of lets say

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6% unemployment

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the actual number is 11%

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also unemployment numbers don't take into account UNDERemployment

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because most people are underemployed neccessitating 2-3 jobs to put food on their table

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I majored in finance and economics in college :3

grim jay
gusty mirage
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it does not

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the official UER in America always has a +5%

grim jay
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weird way to go about statistics

gusty mirage
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I did my capstone on financial contagion and the 2008 financial crisis Nerdge

golden loom
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Different countries also have different ways of defining unemployment

gusty mirage
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well it's based on the fact that you'll never ever have 100% of the population employed

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when you factor in babies, the elderly, etc

grim jay
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by default

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iirc

golden loom
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like Finland for example, we count pretty much anyone as unemployed and still have a very low rate

gusty mirage
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Well Germany is a (mostly) properly run country

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lmao

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the united states is not

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mfers can't read here bro

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we have like an 18% illiteracy rate

coral ibex
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ehh

lean plover
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Ye, usually when calculating employment rates you take only into account people who can actualy work

hardy dagger
gusty mirage
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coal is clean!

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woo!

golden loom
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I mean the german green party are disgusting

gusty mirage
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In 2024, 21% of US adults were illiterate, which is about 43 million people, according to the National Literacy Institute. This means that 79% of US adults are literate.

golden loom
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least green thing you can possibly do is tear down nuclear

gusty mirage
coral ibex
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germany is NOT a paragon of running your country well atm

lean plover
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In spain if u are studying at uni, u dont coynt as unemployed, just unactive

coral ibex
fleet pagoda
gusty mirage
lean plover
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counting people who are studying to be engineers and have barely time tl breathe as unemployed is a bit sus

warm vortex
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Why?

grim jay
shrewd night
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Give me the link to the meltdown pls

warm vortex
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I never say it

lean plover
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Bc they arent in search/need of a job

warm vortex
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Haha jynx koffing

shrewd night
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jynx is a pokemon

warm vortex
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You owe me a super potion

stuck knoll
warm vortex
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Nobody wants to remember that she is

stuck knoll
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So are you smarter than a 10 year old is a genuine question for nearly half of Americans

warm vortex
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"i want an ice/psy type"
Monkey paw folds

iron vapor
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I think a lot of the problems in the US can be ascribed to low educational standards

shrewd night
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fuck I hate this keyboard

iron vapor
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MFers believe every facebook headline they read from their favoured echo chambers

shrewd night
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I aint correcting

coral ibex
# warm vortex Why?

german "environmentalists" (anti-nuclear paid opposition) in favor of BRINGING BACK COAL FIRED POWER PLANTS made a huge stink about the "dangers" of nuclear energy (literally unfounded regarding modern tech) and got germany to entirely abandon their nuclear project

iron vapor
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never read the actual article because they don't have the 3 hours it'll take them to sound out 600 words

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and even if they did they lack the critical thinking skills to actually understand what's being said

coral ibex
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shit is WEIRD rn

iron vapor
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so.... yeah, enjoy your descent into Gilead 🙂

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but coal is natural, just like my hemp sandals

shrewd night
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Define natural

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Atoms are pretty fucking natural kekw

stuck knoll
shrewd night
iron vapor
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well... if you're being turbo reductive about it yeah I guess so

iron vapor
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I believe the actual statistic is 5th grade, which is better but still VERY BAD.

shrewd night
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I exist to put Ronkles on the descent to madness elmofire

coral ibex
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one of my coworkers said "par for the cost" instead of "par for the course" the other day in a meeting and i almost fell out of my chair

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we're doomed

iron vapor
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FML

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"I could care less" is another americanism that makes no sense to me

stuck knoll
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Cuz I believe it was whatever grade is for 10 year olds

coral ibex
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4th or 5th

iron vapor
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I could care less about the people I love most in the world, because I love them a lot... there's headroom there for the care number to be potentially lower

warm vortex
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That’s just politics nowadays tho isn’t it

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Whoever pays them the most is who they care for

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Also does anyone have a link to the Whispyr thing

coral ibex
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yea but if nobody resists stuff like that then we are actually just doomed

iron vapor
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Outlaw rogues on the other hand, I could not care less. the care number is zero. it is impossible for me to care less.

coral ibex
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like fully cooked

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literally the temperature is going up

golden loom
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The german green party was founded as like a student activists against nuclear though so when they eventually morphed into the green party and got into power it was completelty cooked

warm vortex
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It’s how stuff is going atm

iron vapor
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too late for that, the billionaires control every aspect of media now and they're going to be OK when the climate is fucked so they don't care

coral ibex
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students against nuclear is so strange, like was it founded exclusively by former ukrainians who had family from chernobyl or something

iron vapor
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they just want more money and control, and thanks to the Fanta Fascist they're getting it

coral ibex
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students should pog about nuclear energy that shit is so cool

warm vortex
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Also just watched or tried to watch the preach video on the RWF

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l take

lusty kraken
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why is assa discord talking politics

coral ibex
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oh sorry

iron vapor
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fair point

coral ibex
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erm someone tell me when to use FOK

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how many targets

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tell me NOW

warm vortex
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Because rogue is shit to play and has been shit to play for a while now

stuck knoll
iron vapor
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we did protein earier

golden loom
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!stats

prisma monolithBOT
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There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
  • Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
warm vortex
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Jkjk

golden loom
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!design

prisma monolithBOT
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Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

fallow canopy
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we need something to discuss while we are pooling

stuck knoll
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It was a shit race and its shit to play

coral ibex
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WHEN I FITE BOSS MY ENERGY VERY BAD, HOW FIX??

warm vortex
coral ibex
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DO I NEED MORE HASTE?

warm vortex
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Well

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I like the raid on heroic

iron vapor
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getting back on topic, at what point should I spec SD and IC to kill the barrels quicker?

lusty kraken
warm vortex
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Imam have PTSD hearing “pick up Ya teeth” and “another stain on the carpet”

coral ibex
warm vortex
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Not even mythic I just hate the design

coral ibex
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heroic its whatever

warm vortex
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Of randomly selected trash balls

coral ibex
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actual fun fight

lusty kraken
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we started progging last week and so far it's not that bad

coral ibex
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mythic is giga balls

stuck knoll
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Mythic SPROCKET might be the best fight because it’s the one of two fights that are just boring and nothing as opposed to actively bad

coral ibex
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hate it

warm vortex
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Like if you could chose who gets in trash

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I’d love it

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But it’s just

coral ibex
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if we could hard assign ball rollers we'd have killed the boss in 20 pulls

lusty kraken
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idk I find the ball mechanic fun to execute

warm vortex
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Cross your fingers you aren’t targeted and paid ads for a few min on heroic

earnest remnant
coral ibex
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instead we get the same 4 finger fannies every pull

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who can't do it

warm vortex
stuck knoll
warm vortex
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So everyone has to take a ball and that could also be the enrage timer

coral ibex
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yea im saying if we COULD hard assign ball rollers

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in some way

stuck knoll
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Realistically it’s cauldron

warm vortex
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Then again I don’t play mythic

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Because

stuck knoll
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But I don’t like cauldron

warm vortex
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Idk I’m just a chill gamer

earnest remnant
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i cant apply FW from the front

stuck knoll
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For no real reason

lusty kraken
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cauldron is such a long fight

coral ibex
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heroic is too chill for me

lusty kraken
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for no reason

earnest remnant
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so wtf am i supposed to do when the tank is the same colour as me?

coral ibex
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feel like i need to unequip a gear item to make heroic engaging

fallow canopy
stuck knoll
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Idk most of the bosses are just ass

desert crest
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Why is assa so much better than sub on cauldron? even though sub should be better in pure st

stuck knoll
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Vexie is needlessly annoying people fuck the bikes and my cds are perma fucked

warm vortex
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Also:
mytbic guilds could have arguments n shiz
Uni timetables aren’t consistent for mythic
Uni in general
Once again uni
And uhh idk, I don’t wanna make a mistake and feel bad for a few weeks

lusty kraken
coral ibex
warm vortex
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Tbh I think mythic raiding is one of those things where it’s like

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I might want it or I might not

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Or I think I do but I don’t

coral ibex
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it is the only thing i enjoy about the game currently

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i might enjoy m+ if i didn't have to pug

golden loom
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I like raiding and collecting tmog

stuck knoll
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I really enjoy mythic and will recommend it to anyone but it’s not actually that easy to get into

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It’s a big commitment

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And trying to find a place you like playing is really really important and not necessarily easy

coral ibex
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my guild has a rogue who is better than me so i have someone to compete against in raid which is why i stay in this guild

warm vortex
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Fair

coral ibex
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he's an m+ demon and doesn't really care about raid tho

warm vortex
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I just like talking to the people in the guild and doing heroic prog

inner crypt
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If i check firsts rogues logcasts and i see 0 vanish is normal?

warm vortex
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We might do mythic but we would only do a few bosses

warm vortex
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Because we have some people in our guild that
Just
Don’t process things properly sometimes

grave osprey
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Am i tripping or did the bleed build get a pretty solid ST buff in m+?

coral ibex
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firsts rogues logcasts

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not sure what that is

grave osprey
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rogue podcast?

coral ibex
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vanish isn't a dps cd in raid anymore so if you see no vanishes in raid thats normal

warm vortex
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On my

fallow canopy
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I think he meant the logs from the rogues on the top of wlogs or something like that

warm vortex
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Season 1 geared rogue

inner crypt
warm vortex
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So TECHNICALLY

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It’s the shittiest dps cooldown possible

coral ibex
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its a vanishingly small gain

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one ambush over one mutilate

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also mutilate can generate more cp

warm vortex
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Still dps gain

coral ibex
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so might not actually be a gain

warm vortex
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Gotta squeeze out all the dps you can get

spice surge
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Without VV i dont think ambush hits harder than mutilate because it procs more poisons

stuck knoll
warm vortex
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Maybe

spice surge
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With vv maybe slightly higher, but nowhere near where vanish would be a useful cd

warm vortex
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Like trying to get as high as you can on heroic logs is fun too

stuck knoll
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In sanctum she hyper optimised her gear for low ilvl to get all rank 1 ilvl logs

feral silo
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!fuu

stuck knoll
prisma monolithBOT
coral ibex
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i would never use vanish just to get one more ambush when dropping mark is literally a kill myself IRL moment

stuck knoll
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Make your own fun

iron vapor
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yeah, vanish exists for me to reset DM

warm vortex
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True

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Also

inner crypt
warm vortex
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I’m too attached to the ppl in my guild

iron vapor
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Deathstalkers Mark

inner crypt
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Ah ye

warm vortex
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And I really like talking to them and change is hard

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Plus I’d be hard trolling as I’m top dps atm

iron vapor
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like in Cauldron of Carnage if you don't get the changeover right and you can't move your mark across... sad time.

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but, vanish - ambush, bosh, new mark.

shrewd night
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Cauldron is amazing wtf

golden loom
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not having to vanish during cds was nice for cauldron

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can just save it for ez transfer

iron vapor
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yup, now it's almost always there for a transfer

warm vortex
golden loom
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thank god my 100 locked in before these 2 overtook me on cauldron

warm vortex
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But then again I play BM and due to my huge penis I get PI like 80% of the time

stuck knoll
inner crypt
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Kk so vanish only change dm target o renew it

iron vapor
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pretty much, with the vicious venoms build you lose master assassin and improved garotte so there's no benefit to having vanish in your DPS rotation

coral ibex
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i swear they fixed the mugzee jail cleave los

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i CANNOT get any spatter

inner crypt
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I have another question

shrewd night
celest ruin
golden loom
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oh wait kekdog

warm vortex
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If I were to make a boss

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I’d genuinely make it like
10 mechanics or more
Pure ST

stuck knoll
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I would make Rashok again

warm vortex
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Based as fuck

iron vapor
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all bosses should just be patchwerk, make the tanks have to swap or force mages to go through portals or something

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outside that let me blast.

warm vortex
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But like mechanic/communication heavy fights are rlly nice

iron vapor
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chuck in some inconsequential adds with lots of health too

warm vortex
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I remember watching uu’nat and thinking it looked cool

iron vapor
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gotta get them spatter numbers

shrewd night
coral ibex
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a patchwerk with an actually tight dps check would be nice

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meet your 5m sim or die

warm vortex
iron vapor
inner crypt
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I see sometimes Rogue Streams, ignoring the fan of knifes proc, (in ST) and keeping muti. I thouhht when u got the proc, u use It.

iron vapor
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ranged DPS is a myth, only stabs are tangible.

warm vortex
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Then I remembered the APm

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And said no

topaz horizon
iron vapor
grim jay
sharp moss
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for weap enchants i know power is better for aoe but if im raiding as well is it good to just run depths the whole time?

iron vapor
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well, providing you're using vicious venoms, if you're not (and why not?!) then still use FoK on proc

warm vortex
grim jay
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comparatively

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but nothing in wow has high apm

warm vortex
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Fair I guess

coral ibex
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75 apm HOLY

iron vapor
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slow down there, don't want to burn yourself out

golden loom
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wow is also only keyboard apm

iron vapor
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anyway, assassination is 1500 key presses per minute. 1450 are the mutilate key.

golden loom
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compared to like league where u have a bunch of mouse apm also

grim jay
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like bdo

iron vapor
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so it's a very high APM build, just most of those actions don't do anything

warm vortex
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Look I have brain damage

grim jay
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where you even have key combinations for skills

warm vortex
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And my fingers are fat

iron vapor
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have you considered playing paladin?

warm vortex
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Pally is my least fav class by far and it’s not even close

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I hate ret and

iron vapor
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won't fix the brain damage, but you will have more in common with other brain damaged people

warm vortex
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d e s p i s e

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Holy pally

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Also rn im waiting for the 3 hours of sleep to kick in

grim jay
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he is playing hunter rn

warm vortex
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Yea

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Funnily enough if I play another spec this tier it might not even be Assa

deep gyro
warm vortex
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Brain damaged lock

#

Aka destro

#

Cause we are in dire need of a lock

#

Like cookies, gateway, soul stone

#

And still like a 2 button rotation

deep gyro
coral ibex
#

i should gear my mage alt but i cbf

#

massively prefer melee

golden loom
#

melee rocks ranged sucks

#

rogue or warrior only

warm vortex
golden loom
#

might be gear my dh Whatthesigma also

warm vortex
#

Tbh this season sucks for melee

#

I’m p sure I have Fartsniffer the mechagnone rogue

golden loom
#

nothing more than usual

warm vortex
#

So maybe I could get a 4th rogue

deep gyro
#

If only my guild didnt need a rogue.

grand trail
#

Is the priory trinket close to hoc ?

coral ibex
#

like he force dc'd for the name change and it bricked like all their weakauras and just said "idk it proc'd"

golden loom
iron vapor
warm vortex
#

Why use a brain when my beasts need to do all the thinking

#

And by Beasts

#

I mean

grave osprey
#

Rats!

sharp moss
#

can anyone answer me on the weap enchant question i posted

grave osprey
royal lantern
#

but that stuff makes nearly no difference in tww

sharp moss
#

ok

hardy rapids
royal lantern
#

its no Dragonflight sophic power levels of strong

sharp moss
#

im trying to figure out how to up my dmg in raid i feel like im falling way behind

royal lantern
#

why do you look at enchants for that dracthyr_kek

hardy rapids
#

I’ve always wondered why people don’t just play what they want and will play what their guild wants when they aren’t in a CE guild

silver escarp
sharp moss
#

just trying to compare what the other rogue in my guild is running/doing and just looking at everything

silver escarp
#

3.5% DR isn't bad

warm vortex
deep gyro
royal lantern
hardy rapids
hardy rapids
deep gyro
silver escarp
#

Even if you don't try to CE, guilds try to recruit ppl that play certain classes. But those aren't trying to forces player to play a certain classes

grave osprey
#

Heroic is meme difficulty

hardy rapids
royal lantern
subtle tundra
silver escarp
subtle tundra
#

asking outside of world 100 to change class is cringe

#

i wasnt asked ever

#

at a much better wr

hardy rapids
royal lantern
#

like, you dont get recruited and then told "allright,now play X"

#

you got recruited BECAUSE you play X

haughty flicker
#

recruited for atro

verbal cipher
#

should I go for mastery/crit or mastery/vers if I'm playing both assassination and sub?

timber meadow
#

is there a wa that will let you know if you're targeted by something like the sharpshooter's shoot ability in priory?

vivid mulch
#

Im guessing the 36 people play sub here and there?

#

vers mast

mortal badger
#

stats dont matter

verbal cipher
#

oh I forgot about that website, what is the name again?

vivid mulch
spice spire
#

!tea

prisma monolithBOT
#

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
spice spire
royal lantern
haughty flicker
#

well yeha

merry swift
#

i need to trinket and house of cards xD

haughty flicker
#

if you dont have a raid buff you recruit someone with that raid buff

#

then you recruit 5 more mages

royal lantern
haughty flicker
#

nah thats what the 5 are for

#

you lock them in a room and whichever one comes out is the best mage

#

absorbing the powers of the other 4

rigid sphinx
#

Hello Rogues, need a little advice, I am starting some 14 key, and i looked on the top assa players logs on Mecagone first big pack from Woxtoxic on a 17.

Its seems they just garrot and rupture twice or eaven 3 time but not more. On a 15+ mobs packs.

My question is : if we want to min max or dps, when is it worth to apply more garrotes and rupture on big pulls ?

royal lantern
haughty flicker
#

my guilds rl insists on playing arcane and only arcane

haughty flicker
#

i havent decided if hes based or just old

royal lantern
#

thats it

wide ferry
royal lantern
haughty flicker
#

by the time you finish putting dots on that entire first mechagon pull its gonna be dead

#

lmao

royal lantern
#

old would play frost and complain about button bloat 24/7

haughty flicker
#

just get scent of blood and continue to your true calling

#

envenom spam

haughty flicker
#

man i dont like this discord update

#

something feels weird about it

#

putting it back to grey looks washed out or something, but having the new darker colors makes it feel like my monitor brightness is on 10%

royal lantern
#

the letters are so

#

blurry?

#

they dont feel as "sharp"

gaunt quiver
royal lantern
#

if it makes sense

haughty flicker
#

yeah its weird

timber meadow
#

i assume not since it's not a spell but worth an ask ig

haughty flicker
#

it is a spell

#

im sure there is a version of that wa somewhere that works on it

#

or there will be in the future

brave stump
brave stump
#

Im angry since over a year and won't stop bitching about it

haughty flicker
#

soon surely

hearty reef
#

chat enjoying VV ?

humble verge
#

wdym, the pin tab is on mobile?

haughty flicker
#

i never read pins anyway so i have no idea

timber meadow
humble verge
hearty reef
#

thats why they call them the blues...

brave stump
#

When you had a chat open you saw the Red dot when there was a New pin and since that mobile Update you need 3 clicks to navigate to the pins

royal lantern
royal lantern
azure crane
#

Random question. How much haste are yall sitting on with assassination

brave stump
#

Oh no

#

The forbidden question

humble verge
#

!stats

prisma monolithBOT
#

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
  • Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
brave stump
#

Not good at any

haughty flicker
#

based

brave stump
#

But we ballin

haughty flicker
#

im equally bad at every rogue spec

royal lantern
brave stump
#

DUDE

#

Stop

#

Can you

#

Not discriminate

#

Like

royal lantern
#

do you have a extreme impulse to post m+ dmg overall pictures kekdog

brave stump
#

No but i can type with like 2 words max per message

manic sphinx
#

on rik reverb, if i DN kill a bomb, does it allow me to change back to boss?

azure crane
#

Idk dude
I can garentuee im better at this class then majority of this discord. Just was a curiosity into other people numbers. Cause thinking of trying ass for a night

#

But like attitude is cool and all :)))

keen spruce
#

What attitude

pine cave
royal lantern
#

never talked about you lok

keen spruce
royal lantern
marble hemlock
#

cause its about to explode?

royal lantern
#

man, if a bomb in melee is about to explode, i would let it happen, we deserved that

marble hemlock
#

i mean, the bombs in melee arent typically the issue

#

its the solo ones outside if the boss decides to be a fuckwit with the spawns

manic sphinx
#

the bombs aren't in range, and we need mroe dps on them apparently

static glacier
timber meadow
#

the entire fight is killing the bombs 🤣

static glacier
#

as you're running off the boss and finishing them

coral ibex
#

hit boss

#

spatter bombs

#

pray your ranged have brains

manic sphinx
#

ya not in spatter range

coral ibex
#

(they don't)

manic sphinx
#

and they checking to see who is not hitting bomb

coral ibex
#

beg your tank to move the boss

manic sphinx
#

dont think we can move boss in mythic cos need to bait amps properly

marble hemlock
#

after reading this chat the last week, istg way too many people are just horrible fucking raiders that go "yeah well not my problem" when they could possibly prevent a wipe

royal lantern
coral ibex
royal lantern
#

which is kinda a bigger Problem then tbh

coral ibex
#

if your raid is just griefing all your cleave specs then yea i guess you just eat shit and swap

#

they shouldnt do that

timber meadow
brave stump
coral ibex
#

i love spending 3 of the 5 gcds the barrel will live for on setting up spatter so that i can get 2 spatter splashes on the adds

coral ibex
#

making excuses for terrible raid leads that dont know how your comp's damage works is so weird

gaunt quiver
marble hemlock
#

making excuses for playing bad after the raidlead makes bad calls is also weird

#

imagine playing to kill the boss. how cringe and weird. /s

haughty flicker
#

its not making excuses for bad raid leaders, its just that seeing a way you could help kill a boss and then not doing it because its not optimal is silly

subtle tundra
#

yeah fr fr

marble hemlock
subtle tundra
#

couldnt be me

coral ibex
#

unless you get the bug where you 7cp envenom with DN and it kills the target and you lose DN

haughty flicker
#

if you kill something with dn it doesnt refund it again

coral ibex
#

and then you simply don't have a hero talent

marble hemlock
#

lucky for us we dont vanish for DPS anymore so if it happens once every 2 minutes we're still fine

hardy dagger
haughty flicker
#

true

#

vv stonks

coral ibex
haughty flicker
marble hemlock
#

lucky for everyone, rik reverb DPS check is so inconsequential, that even if you end up without a hero talent for a minute, youll still kill the boss

coral ibex
#

vanish was a dps cd when i killed

manic sphinx
#

Ya, I think i also need to just better position myself for splatter

timber meadow
#

LOL rik literally falls over if you kill bombs

manic sphinx
#

but yea since we progging and dps isn't the issue, it's the mines, then its okay to lose boss dmg for it

royal lantern
timber meadow
#

there is zero dps check

haughty flicker
#

your position doesnt matter if the boss is out of range

manic sphinx
marble hemlock
hardy dagger
#

Or you dn envenom while the mob is moving so you just never consume dn

coral ibex
#

you should tell your RL to tell your tank to have better boss positioning

hardy dagger
royal lantern
#

if YOU cant cleave, nobody can cleave

and if nobody can cleave and everyone must hardswap always, something is going very wrong on the tank side

haughty flicker
#

it happens all the time to me on gallywix just after he leaves the middle lmao

hardy dagger
#

I mean it's rare

haughty flicker
#

hes flying away and my dn just doesnt go off

hardy dagger
#

But Jesus Christ it's so jank

haughty flicker
#

despite envenom going off

royal lantern
#

ofc if a stray bomb is about to explode cus your boomkin decides to be a boomkin once again, yeha swap and send a quick envenom i gues

marble hemlock
#

losing DN definitely happens, either cuz mobs are weird and dont actually "die" or bug or w/e. either way, killing bomb so it doesnt explode = good, if the alternative is that it might go off

#

not wiping = good

royal lantern
marble hemlock
haughty flicker
hardy dagger
#

Tried Assa on rik but yeah idk sub is alot better at killing the only relevant "DPS" check

marble hemlock
#

anyone thinking they actually clean their ass with toiletpaper is lying to themselves

haughty flicker
#

cleanest nurgle enjoyer

timber meadow
marble hemlock
#

im a tzeentch enjoyer myself, sorry

timber meadow
#

sub is S+++ tier bomb killer

royal lantern
#

no poop in the First place

royal lantern
#

ouch

haughty flicker
royal lantern
#

you won dracthyr_kek

timber meadow
dapper cradle
#

Is caustic off my main target splashing back as singular focus?

royal lantern
#

it doesnt create a infinite loop or smth

coral ibex
#

18s cds on rik

#

easy mode

royal lantern
#

do dmg->spatter does aoe->singular focus gets dmg->iirc that dmg spatters out once again and then stops

subtle tundra
#

idc if i wpe

#

idc

#

not my problem.rl fault

#

for not piloting my char

haughty flicker
#

who cares if we wipe if i can link boss damage afterwards and be on top

marble hemlock
#

but ye in any case, a lot of lower-rank progression has to do with fixing things via gameplay that you cant fix strategically. i.e. if a rank 500 guild would have tanks that get the positioning on bosses right every pull, they probably wouldnt be playing in a rank 500 guild to begin with. so oftentimes you just have to solve issues that higher ranked guilds dont have, especially in relation to people using their CDs correctly, good boss positioning, having good split DPS on adds etc.

#

so succeeding in (and with) a guild like that often comes down to being able to fix those mistakes

timber meadow
#

our biggest issue was people being hit by fucking sonic projectiles lmao... should've killed in like 15 pulls

marble hemlock
#

a rank 800 guild fundamentally has different issues that they will be wiping to, than a rank 100 guild

timber meadow
#

just a bad raid day for us 😦

coral ibex
#

we would wipe to barrels with all melee including me hard swapping

#

turns out the problem was indeed the ranged

#

xd

#

as soon as they got chewed out, we killed

#

with no swapping

#

amazing!

royal lantern
#

every time

haughty flicker
#

every time someone gets mced make sure to full kidney them

marble hemlock
coral ibex
#

if you rupture the MC im pretty sure they can end up with a bone spike for the rest of the fight

haughty flicker
#

lmao

#

helping the healers parse

red schooner
#

also, free padding

broken sandal
#

dumb q, but in bleed build ST, we are maintaining CT?

coral ibex
#

yes

keen spruce
manic sphinx
keen spruce
coral ibex
#

if there are adds close to melee but not in cleave your tank should pull onto them

#

if you low roll and get 4 spread adds

#

gg go next

manic sphinx
#

k

hardy dagger
#

You could also just lowroll the whole fight

coral ibex
#

you can also affect barrel spawns by dragging the boss to the walls/corners

#

they're more likely to spawn close to the boss

#

tanks can be more than "guy who stands in front of boss"

upper patrol
coral ibex
#

many people are saying this

upper patrol
#

Yes yes, some tanks give you exactly what you want sometimes. It's very easy to tell them apart sometimes

royal lantern
keen spruce
#

If you could beat our VDH in dps in abberus or Amir, you were close to blue parsing as a dps

#

But he was an absolute warlord

warm vortex
#

I love how M+ has 4 dps now with tanks sometimes doing insane damage

subtle tundra
#

or idk get some competent dps

upper wraith
#

Parsing 97-98s on mug during prog and died on kill :/

royal lantern
#

never die on all pulls->the 1pull you die is the kill

keen spruce
#

No parse till boss dead

royal lantern
#

yeha, that aswell

dawn heath
#

guys

#

i did not win jaster diamond

haughty flicker
royal lantern
#

prog parses are no parses dracthyr_kek

haughty flicker
#

no way we didnt kill when i die in such a silly way

sand sigil
#

ok random q

ur going into a 20 mob pull, u have time to put out ur mark, 2 pre garrotes (6), and 1 rupture (3) as the pack is grouping, the rupture shoots out ur sbs's and now u have 7 cps. the whole 20 mob pull is grouped. is it higher prio to continue garrote rupturing or do u insta 20 mob CT, then continue bleeding, then caustic? or do u insta 20 mob ct, then caustic, then continue bleeding?

keen spruce
# dawn heath guys

I thought u were gonna post another stealth break at the start of DB clip smiledoge

dawn heath
dawn heath
royal lantern
warm vortex
#

Be rupture , CT, mut, then envenom spam no

dawn heath
#

bro walked into the hole

#

laid dead

#

for 8 miunutes

#

got ring

haughty flicker
#

huge

#

now he wont die next time

red schooner
#

its always the paladins

#

every time

#

floortank then win loot

keen spruce
#

Thats*

gusty mirage
#

full kidney

red schooner
gusty mirage
#

into waiting until 1s before the MC broke and I sent the blind

sand sigil
#

14 more mobs

gusty mirage
#

his entire CD window ruined

sand sigil
#

without garrote/rupture

keen spruce
timber meadow
keen spruce
warm vortex
red schooner
warm vortex
#

I don’t see the problem

gusty mirage
red schooner
#

for playing boomkin

sand sigil
warm vortex
#

Just get 5 rups up and spam envenom into spatter

sand sigil
#

vs only bleeding 6 out of 20 mobs

keen spruce
#

My man

warm vortex
#

Ok and????

#

Unless it’s bleed build

#

Envenom spam would most likely do more no?

marble hemlock
sand sigil
#

thats why im asking

#

u have ic

#

so its only like 6 garrotes 6 ruptures

warm vortex
#

Cause I could be wrong but you just need 5 rups for scent of blood

sand sigil
#

till u have everything

#

is that true?

red schooner
sand sigil
#

the only thing that matters is 5 scent and then u dont bleed any more mobs?

#

that is fking freelo what lol

warm vortex
#

Yes

sand sigil
#

i was trying to bleed 30 mobs and keep them all up lmfao

gusty mirage
#

yeah rupture doesn't do shit anymore james

sand sigil
#

ok

warm vortex
#

Welcome to assassination

sand sigil
#

we just gained a lot of damage

royal lantern
red schooner
#

Rupture is for energy and scent of blood, we smack with spatter and chill

#

and CT

sand sigil
#

insanely chill

warm vortex
#

Just spatter that goo my doo

gusty mirage
#

you just bleed enough to get energy rolling, 5 ruptures for scent, and then the rest of it is legit the superior version of blade flurry (spatter)

sand sigil
#

like first pull workshop i was actually spending like 15 gcds just bleeding random shit

#

massive W

royal lantern
#

yeha, dont do that

warm vortex
royal lantern
#

garrote->garrote->rupture->rupture->apply Crimson tempest and start cleaving with spatter

warm vortex
#

And mash that envenom key until it doesn’t exist anymore

red schooner
#

besides normally by the time you've spent all those gcds mobs are dead

warm vortex
#

And bam

red schooner
#

and you can't spatter

#

and life is sad

warm vortex
#

Your outdoing Everton else

warm vortex
red schooner
warm vortex
#

If I have time to rotate through Wyvern, Boar and bear then you certainly have enough time to shoot all that green juice like mad

red schooner
#

imagine when we're in the 670+ ilvls

red schooner
#

10s are gonna feel like nothing

royal lantern
red schooner
#

gotta spattermax

gusty mirage
warm vortex
gusty mirage
shy nest
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
timber meadow
# sand sigil vs only bleeding 6 out of 20 mobs

idk the answer either - ive sorta just tried both... in my head it's just a matter of how long the mobs will live.. like in a 10-12 where everything melts ill just send cd's and say fuck it. on a bigger key prob spread bleeds and play the long con but you're way better than me so you've prob thought of this already iono

grim jay
#

I certainly know the answer

#

you only max scent stacks

#

you can garrote more if you want tho

dapper halo
#

um,super stupid question, does blindside ambush proc happen automatically or do i need to macro it or.. something

spice surge
#

Automatic

polar rampart
#

auto

dapper halo
#

thats good

gusty mirage
#

that's not a super stupid question

warm vortex
dapper halo
#

there was a time when it was a "do it yourself" thing

#

i remember it very clearly

gusty mirage
#

yes

hardy dagger
#

I sometimes still press my old ambush bindkekman

gusty mirage
#

I always press it

#

because I'm stupid

warm vortex
#

What

hardy dagger
#

It really does not matter tbh

warm vortex
#

What is this old ambush bind

polar rampart
#

it just glows and turns to bush

gusty mirage
#

so before, you had to press ambush manually on blindside procs

#

then they changed it in DF

#

and a lot of us just still press our old bind

#

out of like 10 years of just doing that

hardy dagger
#

Placebo

#

Feelsgoodman

gusty mirage
#

reminds me of simpler times

warm vortex
#

Bro that was like 2 and 1/2 years ago

keen spruce
#

I think we had to macro until a few weeks into season 2 iirc

warm vortex
#

How have you not gotten out of that habit

#

Ah ok nvm

gusty mirage
#

2.5 years ago is barely 10% of the time I've played this dogshit game

warm vortex
#

Morrr like 2 years ago then

keen spruce
#

No one bothered to fix it in s1 cuz no one played asses

#

Assas

warm vortex
#

I did :0

keen spruce
#

Stepsis build

#

Goofy ahh talents

polar rampart
#

she's stuck under the bed again

gusty mirage
warm vortex
#

I’m stuck stepsis

grim jay
keen spruce
#

Well yeah if you’re in here u probably played ass

grim jay
#

it was a "lets remove binds" thing

keen spruce
#

Cuz we always play ass

warm vortex
#

Also keyword for now is played

polar rampart
#

i still do fr

keen spruce
#

I just play golf now

indigo mulch
#

I like ass.

gusty mirage
warm vortex
#

Also guys hunters finally discovered colours

keen spruce
#


🤸‍♂️
🦽
🏌️‍♂️

keen spruce
#

U

warm vortex
#

Guys does anyone have a link to the whisper breakdown
I remember someone saying it earlier

gusty mirage
#

is that the same thing

red schooner
gusty mirage
#

best I can offer you is emotes of whispyr's feet

#

take it or leave it

grim jay
indigo mulch
gusty mirage
warm vortex
#

I remember last vid he had a guest appearance from a feral Druid

gusty mirage
#

shiennar had this thing where he would collect people's feet and turn them into emotes

#

idk why

#

but it's a good laugh

keen spruce
#

He never got my toes

gusty mirage
#

one day you'll slip up

#

and he will

warm vortex
#

You are a lie

keen spruce
#

House crocks

silver escarp
#

I got the magnet from raid, is it more worth than the darkness trinket in M+?

warm vortex
#

I was excepting duck legs

high walrus
#

anyone know if engineering items count as an embelishment towards the 2 embelishment cap

warm vortex
#

Bro autocorrect

gusty mirage
grim jay
keen spruce
#

There’s duck feet under there

warm vortex
shrewd night
gusty mirage
#

@keen spruce do you still have your powerpoint to explain why you should get PI

#

from DF?

spice spire
#

That’s why he has shadows rank HOLY

royal lantern
gusty mirage
#

out of feet?