#assassination
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I wouldn't worry too much about overall in pugs, trying to min-max your overall works better if you have a semi-set group
trying to stir whispyr from his slumber
ergh it was a 41
Holy shit is that koffing
Is that the generation 1 pokemon with levitate of the poison type
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/m3fXGM6Ycjv1BFVz?fight=27&type=damage-done
Depends on tank pulling and key level, in a 10 things will die before you can actually ramp spatter too much and bleeds will appear higher on overall.
First pull + right.
Double pull, double pull, double pull maybe a 4th? Boss.
Skip the pack on the right, pull the Pat with the suck mob. Then double pull. Then big pull, then the smallest pull of the dungeon, the double suck mobs.
Next go all the way to the big rock guy. Then you singular pull the orb on the right of the boss. Double pull the mobs on the long side of the boss. Then single pull on far side
I parsed an 8, and I was dead for 1/3 of the fight AMA
no its shiennar
aka meownar

aka big daddy
still remember the old times
when he was still a small daddy
lurking with the regulars

Tbh, thats too much. Everything is big when comparing to quakes feet.
Dog I wear 14s
whats 14 in human size?
Which is like 48s eu
Blame Justin
ah 48 alright
Ye
Ye
Ima move all the steps into that server, its kinda sus having it on mine 
WTF
Kind of?
dont be like the giovanni
I will drop @rigid mango full govy at the drop of a hat
You literally use mine 24/8
Talking kinda loud for someone with a step ready to be posted
there's only 7 days in the week you idiot
lmao bozo
Get this, right, Oxi. He goes to a concert with zine. But he only takes me out to lunch
Yeah that’s how often you use it
There are LEVELS to friendship
I think it's time to accept tht Ronkles just doesn't like us
Ronkles loves us tf you mean
Yeah, we went m+ last night and he got so angry with me
man he's toxic
You didn’t even tell me your name
I WAS CALLING YOU SHEN IN PERSON
oh shit
dang
i only spend 21.5h a day so at the end of the week i have an additional day
YOU MAKE IT SOUND LIKE ID EVER CALL YOU RUARUREOIHAOGRI
bro he works for the norwegian secret service or some shit he can't give you a government asset like that
or uh 20.5h
I love you guys wym 😟

thought oxi is the rich guy
dog I'm a broke bitch
private jet and all
Tbf my brother got an erasmus term in Cornell so I’m gonna go visit him
And maybe I stop by 
same
you think the USA is a first world country? LMAO
meow
you think germany is?
ROMANIA IS THE WORLD FIRST COUNTRY
smh my head
I got surgery, with really good health insurance coverage
I paid $1000 deposit for my surgery
and just got $1800 in bills sent to me
AFTER the $1000
for the insurance that I pay $300 a month for
how much would that have cost you bud
yeah fuck you
well wait
I'm waiting
you dont pay as much in taxes
I don't?
you got the money
1/3 of my check goes to taxes lmao
Yuh
Same
considering yall pay like 40% and get free healthcare and affordable school?
you really wanna debate this?
USA is a third world country with a Gucci belt
more than 1/3 for me
^
bozo
I haven’t made enough money to reach that bracket 
it's only first world if you're rich
True
1/3 of your check goes to funding the most evil government on the planet currently*
And signal group chats
Most of my money is just sitting in my bank
and supplying the bombs killing my family overseas 
I barely spend any money at all
Minus fucking train tickets >:(
brother you will end up in an el salvadorian prison with the cartel
tho tbf the main point is actually that what we earn around here looks like a joke compared to what you can earn in the usa with the same thing
eh fuck it
at least food will be free

Just move to some random island in the middle of butt-fuck nowhere and live a very happy life
No more wow
No more politics
No more discord
Just a guy and his house
Or a monkey and his house
In this case
you could've just stopped at no more wow and I was sold
quality of life is still higher though

Bro look at his pfp

you are describing dragon ball tbh
across the population probably
Bro the fact you need tips in the us says enough
yeah well you cant take the possibly worst payed job as the rule
idk I know a bartender that makes bank every weekend
So it's not good as a standard
Nah, nah, just remove tax from tips and watch all prices sink as people get offered discounts if they leave x amount of dollars in tips
you absolutely CAN take the worst paid job as the rule
that's the BEST measure of how healthy an economy is
Draw porn and farm wow gold and make more money than like 70% of the population
Know someone who draws stuff and like
2 drawings is like
if you're reliant on borderline slave labour then you're not doing so great
More than most people earn in a day
Ok commie
what
Is an exageration
I will fly to sweden and kiss you on the mouth
Just cause a lot of people are saying how difficult it is to get jobs atm
I've had one since i have been 16 tho
and if i finish uni in like
2027
Thats a lot of work experiance :D
well funfact
iirc
the unemployment rate
in america
is lower than in germany
This better be the funnest fact
for example
funner fact
the unemployment rate in america automatically negates 5% of the population
because it's assumed at minimum 5% of the population will be unemployed at all times
so when you see a figure of lets say
6% unemployment
the actual number is 11%
also unemployment numbers don't take into account UNDERemployment
because most people are underemployed neccessitating 2-3 jobs to put food on their table
I majored in finance and economics in college :3
doesnt that depend on the people that actually do the statistics? I didnt look at anything official
weird way to go about statistics
I did my capstone on financial contagion and the 2008 financial crisis 
Different countries also have different ways of defining unemployment
well it's based on the fact that you'll never ever have 100% of the population employed
when you factor in babies, the elderly, etc
they are factored out in germany
by default
iirc
like Finland for example, we count pretty much anyone as unemployed and still have a very low rate
Well Germany is a (mostly) properly run country
lmao
the united states is not
mfers can't read here bro
we have like an 18% illiteracy rate
well they let environmentalists tear down their nuclear energy program in favor of coal so
ehh
Ye, usually when calculating employment rates you take only into account people who can actualy work

yeah! because look at the few times in history they melted down!
coal is clean!
woo!
I mean the german green party are disgusting
sorry I undersold it
In 2024, 21% of US adults were illiterate, which is about 43 million people, according to the National Literacy Institute. This means that 79% of US adults are literate.
least green thing you can possibly do is tear down nuclear

germany is NOT a paragon of running your country well atm
In spain if u are studying at uni, u dont coynt as unemployed, just unactive
having an afternoon nap is literally government policy in spain i can't take them that seriously
I thought this was about ravenholdt 
given whispyr's meltdown in here 2 days ago, that's way underselling 
counting people who are studying to be engineers and have barely time tl breathe as unemployed is a bit sus
Why?
Waint
Link this
mostly might even be a stretch ngl
Give me the link to the meltdown pls
I never say it
Bc they arent in search/need of a job
Haha jynx koffing
jynx is a pokemon
You owe me a super potion
This isn’t even mentioning the fact nearly 40% of people in the US read at a sub 4th grade level
Nobody wants to remember that she is
So are you smarter than a 10 year old is a genuine question for nearly half of Americans
"i want an ice/psy type"
Monkey paw folds
I think a lot of the problems in the US can be ascribed to low educational standards
What standard, that department is being torn down as we seak
fuck I hate this keyboard
MFers believe every facebook headline they read from their favoured echo chambers
I aint correcting
german "environmentalists" (anti-nuclear paid opposition) in favor of BRINGING BACK COAL FIRED POWER PLANTS made a huge stink about the "dangers" of nuclear energy (literally unfounded regarding modern tech) and got germany to entirely abandon their nuclear project

never read the actual article because they don't have the 3 hours it'll take them to sound out 600 words
and even if they did they lack the critical thinking skills to actually understand what's being said
so.... yeah, enjoy your descent into Gilead 🙂
but coal is natural, just like my hemp sandals
Dn
Only if you unspec storm bolt
well... if you're being turbo reductive about it yeah I guess so
Jesus Christ 
I believe the actual statistic is 5th grade, which is better but still VERY BAD.
I exist to put Ronkles on the descent to madness 
one of my coworkers said "par for the cost" instead of "par for the course" the other day in a meeting and i almost fell out of my chair
we're doomed
Oh mb I was trying to translate Irish age to US grades
Cuz I believe it was whatever grade is for 10 year olds
4th or 5th
Mfw I spread misinformation
I could care less about the people I love most in the world, because I love them a lot... there's headroom there for the care number to be potentially lower
That’s just politics nowadays tho isn’t it
Whoever pays them the most is who they care for
Also does anyone have a link to the Whispyr thing
yea but if nobody resists stuff like that then we are actually just doomed
Outlaw rogues on the other hand, I could not care less. the care number is zero. it is impossible for me to care less.
The german green party was founded as like a student activists against nuclear though so when they eventually morphed into the green party and got into power it was completelty cooked
Too bad
It’s how stuff is going atm
too late for that, the billionaires control every aspect of media now and they're going to be OK when the climate is fucked so they don't care
students against nuclear is so strange, like was it founded exclusively by former ukrainians who had family from chernobyl or something
they just want more money and control, and thanks to the Fanta Fascist they're getting it
students should pog about nuclear energy that shit is so cool
oh sorry
fair point
Because rogue is shit to play and has been shit to play for a while now
Idk I thought it was pretty fair
we did protein earier
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
Jkjk
!design
Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.
Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.
we need something to discuss while we are pooling
It was a shit race and its shit to play
WHEN I FITE BOSS MY ENERGY VERY BAD, HOW FIX??
nah no way
True
DO I NEED MORE HASTE?
getting back on topic, at what point should I spec SD and IC to kill the barrels quicker?
I don't think there is a boss I actually hate this raid
doomed
Imam have PTSD hearing “pick up Ya teeth” and “another stain on the carpet”
may i introduce you to "mythic stix bunkjunker"
Stix
Not even mythic I just hate the design
heroic its whatever
Of randomly selected trash balls
actual fun fight
we started progging last week and so far it's not that bad
mythic is giga balls
Mythic SPROCKET might be the best fight because it’s the one of two fights that are just boring and nothing as opposed to actively bad
hate it
if we could hard assign ball rollers we'd have killed the boss in 20 pulls
idk I find the ball mechanic fun to execute
Cross your fingers you aren’t targeted and paid ads for a few min on heroic
my 70% Findweakness uptime says fuck you
I more so think like it gives a debuff so you can’t do it w the same players
I mean it’s like that or Cauldron right
So everyone has to take a ball and that could also be the enrage timer
Realistically it’s cauldron
But I don’t like cauldron
Idk I’m just a chill gamer
i cant apply FW from the front
For no real reason
cauldron is such a long fight
heroic is too chill for me
for no reason
so wtf am i supposed to do when the tank is the same colour as me?
feel like i need to unequip a gear item to make heroic engaging
yeet the raid so you can proc fw obv
Idk most of the bosses are just ass
Why is assa so much better than sub on cauldron? even though sub should be better in pure st
Vexie is needlessly annoying people fuck the bikes and my cds are perma fucked
Also:
mytbic guilds could have arguments n shiz
Uni timetables aren’t consistent for mythic
Uni in general
Once again uni
And uhh idk, I don’t wanna make a mistake and feel bad for a few weeks
cauldron is not pure ST
probably because assa can cleave during intermission
Tbh I think mythic raiding is one of those things where it’s like
I might want it or I might not
Or I think I do but I don’t
it is the only thing i enjoy about the game currently
i might enjoy m+ if i didn't have to pug
I like raiding and collecting tmog
I really enjoy mythic and will recommend it to anyone but it’s not actually that easy to get into
It’s a big commitment
And trying to find a place you like playing is really really important and not necessarily easy
my guild has a rogue who is better than me so i have someone to compete against in raid which is why i stay in this guild
Fair
he's an m+ demon and doesn't really care about raid tho
I just like talking to the people in the guild and doing heroic prog
If i check firsts rogues logcasts and i see 0 vanish is normal?
We might do mythic but we would only do a few bosses
Because we have some people in our guild that
Just
Don’t process things properly sometimes
Am i tripping or did the bleed build get a pretty solid ST buff in m+?
rogue podcast?
vanish isn't a dps cd in raid anymore so if you see no vanishes in raid thats normal
Maybe I should come in and show you how’s it’s done
On my
I think he meant the logs from the rogues on the top of wlogs or something like that
Season 1 geared rogue
But why? Not worth free ambush?
Isn’t ambush more damage than mutilate or am I wrong
So TECHNICALLY
It’s the shittiest dps cooldown possible
its a vanishingly small gain
one ambush over one mutilate
also mutilate can generate more cp
Still dps gain
so might not actually be a gain
Gotta squeeze out all the dps you can get
Without VV i dont think ambush hits harder than mutilate because it procs more poisons
My friend does that she just optimised to play HC cuz ehe likes playing in her casual guild and doesn’t have the time to commit to a proper schedule
Maybe
Yea
With vv maybe slightly higher, but nowhere near where vanish would be a useful cd
Like trying to get as high as you can on heroic logs is fun too
In sanctum she hyper optimised her gear for low ilvl to get all rank 1 ilvl logs
!fuu

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
i would never use vanish just to get one more ambush when dropping mark is literally a kill myself IRL moment
yeah, vanish exists for me to reset DM
What is dm?
I’m too attached to the ppl in my guild
Deathstalkers Mark
Ah ye
And I really like talking to them and change is hard
Plus I’d be hard trolling as I’m top dps atm
like in Cauldron of Carnage if you don't get the changeover right and you can't move your mark across... sad time.
but, vanish - ambush, bosh, new mark.
Cauldron is amazing wtf
not having to vanish during cds was nice for cauldron
can just save it for ez transfer
yup, now it's almost always there for a transfer
This
thank god my 100 locked in before these 2 overtook me on cauldron
But then again I play BM and due to my huge penis I get PI like 80% of the time
Idk if the cat hair is causing you problems in the brain but what on earth makes it amazing
Kk so vanish only change dm target o renew it
pretty much, with the vicious venoms build you lose master assassin and improved garotte so there's no benefit to having vanish in your DPS rotation
I have another question
Full ST, keep dots up on both targets then they clash. Only thing that is SHIT is how people think its remotely okay to soak their electro adds in melee range.
20 hours till mine locks in 
oh wait 
It’s a fun brain off boss
If I were to make a boss
I’d genuinely make it like
10 mechanics or more
Pure ST
I would make Rashok again
Based as fuck
all bosses should just be patchwerk, make the tanks have to swap or force mages to go through portals or something
outside that let me blast.
But like mechanic/communication heavy fights are rlly nice
chuck in some inconsequential adds with lots of health too
I remember watching uu’nat and thinking it looked cool
No ads
gotta get them spatter numbers
It was cool, but it was also megaaids
I miss being able to change one single choice node and having Uber cleave
come back to the real class then. Everything else is a lie, rogue is truth.
I see sometimes Rogue Streams, ignoring the fan of knifes proc, (in ST) and keeping muti. I thouhht when u got the proc, u use It.
ranged DPS is a myth, only stabs are tangible.
I mean I watched some high level outlaw and wanted to play
Then I remembered the APm
And said no
Talented to VV you don’t consume ctw
that's changed as well now, mutilate does way more damage than fan of knives so we ignore clear the witnesses in single target now
you mean the apm thats still below what a 60 yo secretary in a preschool office delivers?
for weap enchants i know power is better for aoe but if im raiding as well is it good to just run depths the whole time?
Aaaah perfect, ty
well, providing you're using vicious venoms, if you're not (and why not?!) then still use FoK on proc
Outlaw has high apm still no?
Fair I guess
75 apm 
slow down there, don't want to burn yourself out
wow is also only keyboard apm
anyway, assassination is 1500 key presses per minute. 1450 are the mutilate key.
compared to like league where u have a bunch of mouse apm also
or grinding games
like bdo
so it's a very high APM build, just most of those actions don't do anything
Look I have brain damage
where you even have key combinations for skills
And my fingers are fat
have you considered playing paladin?
won't fix the brain damage, but you will have more in common with other brain damaged people
ven adjusted
he is playing hunter rn
Traitor 
Brain damaged lock
Aka destro
Cause we are in dire need of a lock
Like cookies, gateway, soul stone
And still like a 2 button rotation
It’s not?
Exaggeration but destro isn’t exactly rocket science
might be gear my dh Whatthesigma also
nothing more than usual
So maybe I could get a 4th rogue
If only my guild didnt need a rogue.
Is the priory trinket close to hoc ?
this proc'd remembering i was watching a max stream and he told the story of liquid shak's name change on his DH to donkeygarry mid-halondrus prog pull
like he force dc'd for the name change and it bricked like all their weakauras and just said "idk it proc'd"

Oh jesus, past brain damaged and straight into frontal lobotomy territory
Exactly
Why use a brain when my beasts need to do all the thinking
And by Beasts
I mean
Rats!
can anyone answer me on the weap enchant question i posted
The difference is negligible, i wouldn’t be that concerned about it
depths slightly better in raid, power slightly better in m+
but that stuff makes nearly no difference in tww
ok
Doesn’t it feel like super lame to have to conform to a guild without being a mythic CE guild
its no Dragonflight sophic power levels of strong
im trying to figure out how to up my dmg in raid i feel like im falling way behind
why do you look at enchants for that 
I’ve always wondered why people don’t just play what they want and will play what their guild wants when they aren’t in a CE guild
Well, at least for the poisons tho
just trying to compare what the other rogue in my guild is running/doing and just looking at everything
3.5% DR isn't bad
Post logs if your wondering why your dps is low
It deffo isn’t enchants
Well we are trying to get ce. But tbh the half of the raiders suck
raids are kinda balanced around having every raidbuff from all classes
its to make sure that you can play your class always
Ah my fault then. If you’re going for CE then yeah
Yeah but if we’re being honest only mythic needs to follow that rule. You can bring like any comp into heroic
Lol. And truth be told i like rogue it’s the best class i’ve performed with in raid. But part of me is a bit fotm enjoyer. And being melee sucks rn
Even if you don't try to CE, guilds try to recruit ppl that play certain classes. But those aren't trying to forces player to play a certain classes
That’s also hella fair lol.
Heroic is meme difficulty
I just think asking players to switch their class outside of CE prog is lame.
yeha sure
normal/heroic? play what you want, comp doesnt matter
mythic? every class 1x in your 20people comp, specs dont matter
Hall of Fame? yeha now you kinda need to look at specs aswell
well a log review would do much more
Yea that's what i said, guilds that aren't CEing aren't asking to change
My fault
asking outside of world 100 to change class is cringe
i wasnt asked ever
at a much better wr
Of course it gets that complicated. I agree that in those difficulties it should be done like that
yeha, thats often a weird understanding
like, you dont get recruited and then told "allright,now play X"
you got recruited BECAUSE you play X
should I go for mastery/crit or mastery/vers if I'm playing both assassination and sub?
is there a wa that will let you know if you're targeted by something like the sharpshooter's shoot ability in priory?
stats dont matter
oh I forgot about that website, what is the name again?
!tea
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

yes, the same way your magenis recruited for arcane int, your dh for chaos brand and your Shaman for skyfury
well yeha
i need to trinket and house of cards xD
if you dont have a raid buff you recruit someone with that raid buff
then you recruit 5 more mages
first you have to find the elusive 1 good mage
nah thats what the 5 are for
you lock them in a room and whichever one comes out is the best mage
absorbing the powers of the other 4
Hello Rogues, need a little advice, I am starting some 14 key, and i looked on the top assa players logs on Mecagone first big pack from Woxtoxic on a 17.
Its seems they just garrot and rupture twice or eaven 3 time but not more. On a 15+ mobs packs.
My question is : if we want to min max or dps, when is it worth to apply more garrotes and rupture on big pulls ?
so nobody because they complain about the possibility that fire could not be the best for once?
my guilds rl insists on playing arcane and only arcane
chad
i havent decided if hes based or just old
rupture 5 guys, garrote a couple more cus its free CP when its a stealth garrotr
thats it
i have the same question honestly
based
by the time you finish putting dots on that entire first mechagon pull its gonna be dead
lmao
old would play frost and complain about button bloat 24/7
fair lmao
man i dont like this discord update
something feels weird about it
putting it back to grey looks washed out or something, but having the new darker colors makes it feel like my monitor brightness is on 10%
Remember you only need 5 ruptures for Scent of Blood talent. Improved garrote from stealth is worth putting out as many as you can in between stacking the 5 ruptures.
if it makes sense
yeah its weird
anyone know if this wa would work for stuff like the "shoot" ability the sharpshooters do in priory? https://wago.io/TsFNFG1H7
i assume not since it's not a spell but worth an ask ig
it is a spell
im sure there is a version of that wa somewhere that works on it
or there will be in the future
Still waiting for the pin tab coming back on mobile
this plays audio?
soon surely
wdym, the pin tab is on mobile?
i never read pins anyway so i have no idea
ya a water droplet
always the blues
thats why they call them the blues...
When you had a chat open you saw the Red dot when there was a New pin and since that mobile Update you need 3 clicks to navigate to the pins
why should we not?
blues are all the rerolled yellow names at this point 
Random question. How much haste are yall sitting on with assassination
idk, yellow is doing good tho
what is this "haste" youre talking about
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
Sorry im Roguefluent
Not good at any
based
But we ballin
hey, you know the difference bettwen yellow name and a yellow Name
do you have a extreme impulse to post m+ dmg overall pictures 
No but i can type with like 2 words max per message
on rik reverb, if i DN kill a bomb, does it allow me to change back to boss?
Idk dude
I can garentuee im better at this class then majority of this discord. Just was a curiosity into other people numbers. Cause thinking of trying ass for a night
But like attitude is cool and all :)))
What attitude
only need rupture on 5 target ? or try to use on more targets ?
never talked about you lok

yes, but why do you envenom a bomb
cause its about to explode?
man, if a bomb in melee is about to explode, i would let it happen, we deserved that
i mean, the bombs in melee arent typically the issue
its the solo ones outside if the boss decides to be a fuckwit with the spawns
the bombs aren't in range, and we need mroe dps on them apparently
normally its the bombs right before intermission
the entire fight is killing the bombs 🤣
as you're running off the boss and finishing them
just don't
hit boss
spatter bombs
pray your ranged have brains
ya not in spatter range
(they don't)
and they checking to see who is not hitting bomb
beg your tank to move the boss
dont think we can move boss in mythic cos need to bait amps properly
after reading this chat the last week, istg way too many people are just horrible fucking raiders that go "yeah well not my problem" when they could possibly prevent a wipe
if they are not in spatter range, they are also not in range for all your mages/warriors/dhs
which is kinda a bigger Problem then tbh
if your raid is just griefing all your cleave specs then yea i guess you just eat shit and swap
they shouldnt do that
its actually wild how many people seem to think that hitting a training dummy and getting a good parse, instead of doing the mechanics, is good raiding
Shadowstepping other colour on lockenstock to get to my bomb quicker 
i love spending 3 of the 5 gcds the barrel will live for on setting up spatter so that i can get 2 spatter splashes on the adds
where did i say that
making excuses for terrible raid leads that dont know how your comp's damage works is so weird
You end up wasting more time adding ruptures than you do getting off chained envenoms - which is where most of your dps comes from.
-As many improved Garrotes as you can during your stealth window.
-Maintain 5 ruptures
-Crimson Tempest
-Caustic Spatter
-Envenoms
making excuses for playing bad after the raidlead makes bad calls is also weird
imagine playing to kill the boss. how cringe and weird. /s
its not making excuses for bad raid leaders, its just that seeing a way you could help kill a boss and then not doing it because its not optimal is silly
yeah fr fr
to actually answer your question: yes, if you kill smth with a DN envenom cast, you immediately get DN again
couldnt be me
unless you get the bug where you 7cp envenom with DN and it kills the target and you lose DN
ive been testing this and im pretty sure its bugged again
if you kill something with dn it doesnt refund it again
and then you simply don't have a hero talent
thanks bro ❤️
lucky for us we dont vanish for DPS anymore so if it happens once every 2 minutes we're still fine

yea that was not the case for my prog kill

lucky for everyone, rik reverb DPS check is so inconsequential, that even if you end up without a hero talent for a minute, youll still kill the boss
vanish was a dps cd when i killed
Ya, I think i also need to just better position myself for splatter
LOL rik literally falls over if you kill bombs
but yea since we progging and dps isn't the issue, it's the mines, then its okay to lose boss dmg for it
spatter is based on the target, not you
there is zero dps check
your position doesnt matter if the boss is out of range
oh i thouhg it was bothish
thats a very good attitude to have 
Or you dn envenom while the mob is moving so you just never consume dn
you should tell your RL to tell your tank to have better boss positioning

if YOU cant cleave, nobody can cleave
and if nobody can cleave and everyone must hardswap always, something is going very wrong on the tank side
ok so im not the only one this happens to lmao
it happens all the time to me on gallywix just after he leaves the middle lmao
I mean it's rare
hes flying away and my dn just doesnt go off
But Jesus Christ it's so jank
despite envenom going off
ofc if a stray bomb is about to explode cus your boomkin decides to be a boomkin once again, yeha swap and send a quick envenom i gues
losing DN definitely happens, either cuz mobs are weird and dont actually "die" or bug or w/e. either way, killing bomb so it doesnt explode = good, if the alternative is that it might go off
not wiping = good
til: seli doesnt wipe his butt
have you heard of bidets?
asmongold taught me that
Tried Assa on rik but yeah idk sub is alot better at killing the only relevant "DPS" check
anyone thinking they actually clean their ass with toiletpaper is lying to themselves
cleanest nurgle enjoyer
yeah that fight is miles and miles better for sub
im a tzeentch enjoyer myself, sorry
sub is S+++ tier bomb killer
definitely, yeah
idk man, i just dont produce waste
no poop in the First place
ouch

you won 
delay your cd's slightly on pull and they line up real clean for bombs as well
Is caustic off my main target splashing back as singular focus?
once, yes
it doesnt create a infinite loop or smth
do dmg->spatter does aoe->singular focus gets dmg->iirc that dmg spatters out once again and then stops
who cares if we wipe if i can link boss damage afterwards and be on top
but ye in any case, a lot of lower-rank progression has to do with fixing things via gameplay that you cant fix strategically. i.e. if a rank 500 guild would have tanks that get the positioning on bosses right every pull, they probably wouldnt be playing in a rank 500 guild to begin with. so oftentimes you just have to solve issues that higher ranked guilds dont have, especially in relation to people using their CDs correctly, good boss positioning, having good split DPS on adds etc.
so succeeding in (and with) a guild like that often comes down to being able to fix those mistakes
our biggest issue was people being hit by fucking sonic projectiles lmao... should've killed in like 15 pulls
a rank 800 guild fundamentally has different issues that they will be wiping to, than a rank 100 guild
just a bad raid day for us 😦
Infinite loop would go crazy
we would wipe to barrels with all melee including me hard swapping
turns out the problem was indeed the ranged
xd
as soon as they got chewed out, we killed
with no swapping
amazing!
"dont get hit by"->your priest is in MC
every time
every time someone gets mced make sure to full kidney them
me when the demolock got MCed on echo of neltharion, sending the full kidney into their tyrant.
if you rupture the MC im pretty sure they can end up with a bone spike for the rest of the fight
also, free padding
dumb q, but in bleed build ST, we are maintaining CT?
yes
Getting MCd on nelth and sending all of my CDs into my hunter’s pet
is it practical to move boss? thought it'd be too hard with baiting amps?

if there are adds close to melee but not in cleave your tank should pull onto them
if you low roll and get 4 spread adds
gg go next
k
You could also just lowroll the whole fight
you can also affect barrel spawns by dragging the boss to the walls/corners
they're more likely to spawn close to the boss
tanks can be more than "guy who stands in front of boss"
You sure, never heard of that xD
many people are saying this
Yes yes, some tanks give you exactly what you want sometimes. It's very easy to tell them apart sometimes
gotta watch the timer, but yes ofc you can
If you could beat our VDH in dps in abberus or Amir, you were close to blue parsing as a dps
But he was an absolute warlord
I love how M+ has 4 dps now with tanks sometimes doing insane damage
or idk get some competent dps
Parsing 97-98s on mug during prog and died on kill :/
classic
never die on all pulls->the 1pull you die is the kill
yeha, that aswell
i knew we were finally going to kill gallywix when i fell in the hole doing bombs
prog parses are no parses 
no way we didnt kill when i die in such a silly way
ok random q
ur going into a 20 mob pull, u have time to put out ur mark, 2 pre garrotes (6), and 1 rupture (3) as the pack is grouping, the rupture shoots out ur sbs's and now u have 7 cps. the whole 20 mob pull is grouped. is it higher prio to continue garrote rupturing or do u insta 20 mob CT, then continue bleeding, then caustic? or do u insta 20 mob ct, then caustic, then continue bleeding?
I thought u were gonna post another stealth break at the start of DB clip 
It would just
get 5ruptures running->use garrote to spread stealth garrotes in aoe and to get CP->spend the Cp on crimson tempest and then your normal cleave stuff
Be rupture , CT, mut, then envenom spam no
I did that to our boomkin
full kidney
thanks
into waiting until 1s before the MC broke and I sent the blind
that means there are
14 more mobs
his entire CD window ruined
without garrote/rupture
Did u play void elf to chase people through walls too
i was thinking about something similar. Like if you have vanish available, and follolw the logic of garrotes being higher prio, you're just gonna end up vanishing and then reapplying - could legit like not CT for a minute straight or some shit lmao

Ok?
boomkin brought it on themself
I don’t see the problem
exactly this
I did actually
for playing boomkin
surely its better to bleed the mobs then pop cds
Just get 5 rups up and spam envenom into spatter
vs only bleeding 6 out of 20 mobs
based
i dont know
thats why im asking
u have ic
so its only like 6 garrotes 6 ruptures
Cause I could be wrong but you just need 5 rups for scent of blood
ye
the only thing that matters is 5 scent and then u dont bleed any more mobs?
that is fking freelo what lol
Yes
i was trying to bleed 30 mobs and keep them all up lmfao
yeah rupture doesn't do shit anymore james
Welcome to assassination
we just gained a lot of damage
rupture doesnt really do dmg, and garrote is not that strong aswell (hell you dont even use non-stealth garrotes in aoe)
the far far manority of your aoe dmg is Crimson tempest and cleaving with spatter
insanely chill
Just spatter that goo my doo
you just bleed enough to get energy rolling, 5 ruptures for scent, and then the rest of it is legit the superior version of blade flurry (spatter)
like first pull workshop i was actually spending like 15 gcds just bleeding random shit
massive W
Yea just get the two rips, two garrottes, good ol CT up
garrote->garrote->rupture->rupture->apply Crimson tempest and start cleaving with spatter
And mash that envenom key until it doesn’t exist anymore
besides normally by the time you've spent all those gcds mobs are dead
And bam
Your outdoing Everton else
Bro is playing on a 4 keys
even 10s seem to melt nowadays
If I have time to rotate through Wyvern, Boar and bear then you certainly have enough time to shoot all that green juice like mad
imagine when we're in the 670+ ilvls
those sound like dog breeds
10s are gonna feel like nothing
no, they can still breath trought their nose
ye but much less time if i was spending 15 gcds getting bleeds out
gotta spattermax
I feel attacked
What
Skill issue idk
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
idk the answer either - ive sorta just tried both... in my head it's just a matter of how long the mobs will live.. like in a 10-12 where everything melts ill just send cd's and say fuck it. on a bigger key prob spread bleeds and play the long con but you're way better than me so you've prob thought of this already iono
I certainly know the answer
you only max scent stacks
you can garrote more if you want tho
um,super stupid question, does blindside ambush proc happen automatically or do i need to macro it or.. something
Automatic
auto
thats good
that's not a super stupid question
yes
I sometimes still press my old ambush bind
What
It really does not matter tbh
What is this old ambush bind
it just glows and turns to bush
so before, you had to press ambush manually on blindside procs
then they changed it in DF
and a lot of us just still press our old bind
out of like 10 years of just doing that
Bro that was like 2 and 1/2 years ago
I think we had to macro until a few weeks into season 2 iirc
2.5 years ago is barely 10% of the time I've played this dogshit game
Morrr like 2 years ago then
I did :0
she's stuck under the bed again
saved me from sub prison
I’m stuck stepsis
that wasnt a "fix it" type of thing
Well yeah if you’re in here u probably played ass
it was a "lets remove binds" thing
Cuz we always play ass
I played like ass tbh
Also keyword for now is played
i still do fr
I just play golf now
I like ass.
what if I can't read
Also guys hunters finally discovered colours
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Guys does anyone have a link to the whisper breakdown
I remember someone saying it earlier
I do sometimes play with my ass
is that the same thing
isn't the whispyr breakdown whenever someone asks a question in here that's easily answered by checking he pins?
Tbh true
no bcs that would be all day every day
Please do.

I remember last vid he had a guest appearance from a feral Druid
shiennar had this thing where he would collect people's feet and turn them into emotes
idk why
but it's a good laugh
House crocks
I got the magnet from raid, is it more worth than the darkness trinket in M+?
I was excepting duck legs
anyone know if engineering items count as an embelishment towards the 2 embelishment cap
Bro autocorrect
in sport mode, a man of class I see
Sim
@shrewd night so it really was you
There’s duck feet under there
Bro my mum has like super lime crocs and it’s funny seeing her in like all black
I meeeeeean
@keen spruce do you still have your powerpoint to explain why you should get PI
from DF?
Mf is the gooner supreme from the shadows
That’s why he has shadows rank 
building the RH golem ofc
out of feet?















