assassination

[lean plover]

and doomblade was 45%

[spice surge]

Moreso tomb, but ye a little bit in NH

[waxen oyster]

Nah NH was an assa tier

overall

[spice surge]

NH was agonizing poison so you couldnt swap target ever

[waxen oyster]

lmao target swap

nice meme

[spice surge]

Assa identity

[tawdry halo]

NH was assassin tier, but nothing compares to the fun of DFA sub rogue

[nova kelp]

I played sub through nh and tomb

[waxen oyster]

dfa build didnt come until the tomb rework

[nova kelp]

Then they started making bosses that caused you to land in mental spots with dfa

[tawdry halo]

yeah and there was that AOE trinket from one of the bosses

where you pop it, vanish with leggo shoulders, and melt packs

good times

[spice surge]

Current sub plays better than DFA did imo, just sectech not having as cool of an animation

[nova kelp]

And they made poison bomb hit like a small nation of nukes

[waxen oyster]

that was because damage amps affected trinkets

and MA crit

[tawdry halo]

yep

[nova kelp]

You take that back!

[waxen oyster]

moonglaives in modern wow would suck

[tawdry halo]

big number = big fun

[waxen oyster]

without the amps

[arctic beacon]

Which one should I choose weapon and trinket ?
current weapon is level 675, 658 trinket is level 658(House of Cards)

[tawdry halo]

let me have my old man "back in my day" moment

[waxen oyster]

signet

[slate crown]

Trinket

[waxen oyster]

3 mh ilvls isnt worth over trinket

[arctic beacon]

oh thanks!!

[nova kelp]

Wait... Legion... Legion is an old man moment???

Fuck

[waxen oyster]

NH dropped 8 years ago

let that sink in

[nova kelp]

Stfu

I was there. When the first ragnaros fell

I was there. When the first tfury was crafted by a hunter

I was there when cthun would instant wipe a raid with an infinite eyebeam

[nova kelp]

I was there when we could sinister strike with a big iron fishing pole and because it was before the normalisation of weapon speed it would hit for 5 x someone's possible health

I was there. When hand of Edward the odd could be used to instantly cap a flag in a bg

I was THERE dammit

[cinder bone]

Okay grandmom back to the nursing home

[nova kelp]

Legion. Pffffft

[tawdry halo]

wowee

Yes, also played from classic

but 8 years is 8 years y'know

[nova kelp]

Actually though. That's wild.

Stop saying it

Lol

I wish we could still do all that jank shit from back when. It was fun.

Hunters with wands

Rogues with fishing rods

The mop volley animation ...

[stuck jacinth]

What is the general take of hybrid M+ vs bleed build? I see some stuff say bleed is better at lower but what is better at 11-12+? Hybrid I assume but just looking for general guidance

[nova kelp]

They're good. One does slightly more add. One does slightly more st

[indigo mulch]

I feel like after 10's bleed starts dropping off a bit. Thats just my opinion.

Main usse wit hybrid is to get it going properly and in low keys shit don't live long enough for you to do anything 😄

[gloomy otter]

https://i.imgur.com/2stdZ8y.png

does it matter if i use trinket/pot before or after deathmark

[nova kelp]

I don't see a drop off at all

[coral ibex]

macro them together

[indigo mulch]

Like i said, just my opinion. 😄

[gloomy otter]

i did but somehow i have to press it twice for deathmark to be used

[coral ibex]

deathmark is a gcd

[gloomy otter]

sometimes i dont notice it and i only use the trinket without mark

[coral ibex]

yea you're pressing it during ur gcd spin

you have to press deathmark

[static glacier]

no it doesn't, death mark initial application doesn't really do damage

its a dot

[faint quartz]

With the hybrid build I've got one charge of Shiv, but with the bleed it's two.
So do I press shiv, deathmark, and then shiv at the end?

[coral ibex]

it does matter, you should press it with your deathmark macro

[gloomy otter]

aight so pay more attention to the gcd and dont be too fast with the rota 😄

[balmy condor]

Deathmark then shiv

But yeh

[faint quartz]

And when should I use the 2nd charge of Shiv?

[static glacier]

after first charge finisshes

when there's 8s left on kingsbsane

[faint quartz]

The bleed build drops Kingsbane. Trying to wrap my head around it lol

[static glacier]

ohhh

wait is this bleed?

if that's the case 2x in deathmark then whenever 2 times outside of it

I like to line it up with darkest night / aoe after i've applied bleeds

remember that with arterial precision your shivs will be aoe and increase the dmg enemies take from spatter

[faint quartz]

thanks

[spice spire]

Crozy ass mf

[tame lake]

Whats the most ideal way to use Mega Magnet trinket?

[iron vapor]

30 stacks while lingering darkness is active

against a target you REALLY want dead

[spice spire]

[iron vapor]

if you don't have 30 stacks, just blast it at the end of lingering darkness anyway

[vale shore]

you certainly wont be near 30 stack on the pull

unless you baked some on the trash leading up to it

[gray horizon]

Worth using Magnet a second time before LD ends? Or just save up for the next one

[coral ibex]

the sim uses it twice during LD

10-11 uses in 5 minutes

[vale shore]

what value does the sim give for the stacks?

[gray horizon]

Awesome, that's kind of what I was hoping to see. Noticed I was capping on stacks a good bit before the second LD window, so that helps

[coral ibex]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/f9venj534Xqx449bCkcDqT/simc

[slow echo]

Does caustic spatter spread amplifying and deadly poison to other targets?

[spice surge]

It does not spread your poison

It spreads the damage your poisons do

[slow echo]

I see

I love you Eleem

So since we now FoK at 5+ with VV and Blindside

how do we spread the poisons, just mouseover mutilate

[spice surge]

You dont

[slow echo]

I just don't switch at all?

To apply deadly and amp

That's dope

[haughty flicker]

when in raid are there 5+ targets anyway

like gallywix

and thats it

[spice surge]

Well why would you want to apply amp to other targets

[marble hemlock]

poisons deal so little damage that theres really very little value to apply htem to other targets

[spice surge]

It literally does nothing

[marble hemlock]

main benefit is amp poison stacks, and you aint envenoming the adds

[spice surge]

And ye deadly doesnt do much either

[tame lake]

Should we be pooling energy at all or just full send?

[haughty flicker]

well yeah the premise was useless in the first place but also the situation wouldnt come up anyway

[slow echo]

I love you guys

[marble hemlock]

full send, can pool ~2-3sec before KB but thats it

[haughty flicker]

optimizing clearing trash

[marble hemlock]

you just full st on trash and caustic

[indigo mulch]

Seli, do you run CT on Richard Reverberation? ;o

[marble hemlock]

i selfbenched the entire tier

but i would not

also his legal name is richard reverberation

[haughty flicker]

sometimes i forget to even swap back to caustic after sprocket and do trash without it

[marble hemlock]

so please spell it out next time

[indigo mulch]

fixed

[marble hemlock]

adds on rik die too quickly/dont spawn often enough for CT to be worth, i think? but idk, didnt look into it too much

[marble hemlock]

appreciate it

[indigo mulch]

I'm just HC logger anyway.

[coral ibex]

oh definitely not on heroic

those adds will die instantly

[waxen oyster]

defo not on hc

[indigo mulch]

No i mean i only log half decent logs on hc.

[silver wharf]

How do I use Junkmaestro? Can someone help me?

[indigo mulch]

I'm way to focused on mechanics on mythic i dunno

Old brain

[coral ibex]

scroll up we just talked about it

[queen bear]

when you sim the junkmaestro trinket, does it sim with the lingering darkness cheese? if it says it's a dps loss, then i shouldn't bother?

[spice surge]

Yes and yes

[queen bear]

thank you

[regal linden]

!macro

[olive pawn]

How come recommended talent choice is Tight Spender instead of Improved Ambush for Bleed build? Sims seem to suggest the opposite for me atleast

[gloomy otter]

https://i.imgur.com/zc0MszP.png

what does that mean? you can buy trinkets??

[haughty flicker]

Potentially in .5 patch

We should be getting dinars

[gloomy otter]

oh sheesh

aigh ty for that info

nvm shouldve read a little bit more of the text

[balmy condor]

Oh interesting, it definitely shouldn’t

I’ll have to go look again

But it should only be one cast per lingering

Should be seeing 3 casts in 5 min

Oh I see the problem

Shit

Yeah okay I can fix that

[nimble tartan]

dam these names go so hard in german

[hollow talon]

checking out the wowhead guide for opener with new talents without SS, do we not use garrote in the opener until our CDs are done then?

[haughty flicker]

Use garrote as normal and just refresh in pandemic

[balmy condor]

We weren’t using SS to begin with

So nothing changed

[woven ruin]

I was in a hc Rik pug and was getting shit on for not going to the adds that were right next to boss.

[balmy condor]

Yeah that’ll happen, no one seems to understand how assa works

[tame lake]

Should we be consuming our Clear the witnesses proc?

[balmy condor]

In what situation

[tame lake]

In a pure ST situation

[iron carbon]

You look like people making tickets at work

[balmy condor]

In raid?

[iron carbon]

Asking question without context

[tame lake]

yes raid

[balmy condor]

No

[jade wadi]

is it worth it to save up gilded for another 675 craft, or to max out my hero gear to 6/6? i'd most likely replace a champ belt.

[iron carbon]

Always worth in crest, not on money

[balmy condor]

It’s 60 crests to craft a 675, and 15 to upgrade

[coral ibex]

6/6 hero track is just setting ur gilded on fire

[balmy condor]

So if you’re skipping more than 4 upgrades

You’re good to go

[jade wadi]

thanks for the tip!

[royal lantern]

thats kinda a wild take tbh

[balmy condor]

Yeah idk bout that

[royal lantern]

ofc dont mindless throw them out

but like, sittig on them is also bad

[balmy condor]

I went 6/6 week 1 on a pacemaker and a signet

[iron carbon]

Depends how you get easy access to on MM items

[royal lantern]

i dont throw crests on a mythic ring when i have other slots avaible

[iron carbon]

I think set items are a waste cuz you easily get random slot than you can catalyse

[coral ibex]

2 slots 6/6 hero is equal to a craft, i'd rather just get a 675

[gloomy otter]

should i use radiant power on weapons or go for depths? i mean the only time where i rly do ST are in raids

[haughty flicker]

Me upgrading any myth track instantly with no thought because big number dopamine

[red schooner]

obtain mythic track item, slam said mythic track item

this is the way

[gloomy otter]

and is it a big dps difference between them

[balmy condor]

Depths is kinda fine everywhere now

Radiant power slightly better in m+ I guess but just use something

Doesn’t matter much

[gloomy otter]

oke thank you

[haughty flicker]

np

[royal lantern]

im fighting the urge to slam crests into my 1/6Mythic dagger ok

[red schooner]

give in, slam it

treat yourself

[royal lantern]

no

got priory in vault

[haughty flicker]

true

[indigo mulch]

GIVE IN TO THE URGE YOUNG PADWAN!

[red schooner]

i wish i got priory in vault

what is life

[haughty flicker]

shrek

i wont get any loot for the next two months

[iron carbon]

next 2 XPAC*

[red schooner]

i got my max pacemaker at least

just got a champ track house of cards

[gloomy otter]

i want crit/mastery on my craftet items right?

[iron carbon]

correct

[runic hinge]

I did but I don’t mythic raid so it’ll be the only daggie I see and probably a good use of crests long run anyways

[hidden bay]

Sim yourself

Use gear compare for different stats as droptimizer only has one option to select stats

[lethal arrow]

i love perma being 0 energy

[runic hinge]

Same

[thorn thorn]

Same

[runic hinge]

It means I spent it all on doing damage

[thorn thorn]

Best part about sin

[balmy condor]

Or just use top gear?

[thorn thorn]

Watching youtube while waiting for energy to regen

[hidden bay]

No!

[pulsar ice]

!pool

[fallow canopy]

!beach

[pulsar ice]

!poll

[balmy condor]

!river

[thorn thorn]

!swim

[balmy condor]

!water

[thorn thorn]

Grass is green, Water is wet

Sin has to pool, and so do you

[gloomy otter]

whats higher prio , refresh rupture when its almost gone or use cp for darkest night?

[balmy condor]

Does sin have to pool though

[balmy condor]

Darkest night

[pulsar ice]

so instead of trolling, can someone actually say the right command

[royal lantern]

i love that everytime assa gets slower you read the same "no energy " comments

like bro, did you never played the spec before or never heared a single word about it

[balmy condor]

There is no command

[royal lantern]

no pooling exists atm

[hidden bay]

Sometimes if I am low on energy I just take my hands of keyboard

[thorn thorn]

[gloomy otter]

thx for the quick responses my man appreciate it

[runic hinge]

I spam button to keep fingies warm

[balmy condor]

Gotta crack the knuckles

[haughty flicker]

this truly is our darkest night

wrong knight

no batman here

[balmy condor]

Fortnite

[pulsar ice]

we always full send? because i am sending kingsbane, and sometimes i dont have energy to do anything when it is up

[royal lantern]

you mean k*****

gotta love fromsoft cencoring

[hidden bay]

How about you start streaming again. Fix your net or use hotspot

[runic hinge]

something I do is check my rupture duration whenever I hit 1 stack on DSM to make sure I won’t get into pandemic when I’m trying to get combo points for darkest night

[red schooner]

there's a slight optimisation for pooling to 150 energy before kingsbane I thought? Like 0.2% increase or something

So... barely worth doing

[balmy condor]

I did yesterday!

[balmy condor]

That’s fine

[haughty flicker]

i spend my time trying to make my energy land on 69

[royal lantern]

kb without deathmark doesnt do big dmg anyway

and you have tea for kb

so

[hidden bay]

[gloomy otter]

yeh i should keep an eye on rupture too before needing my cp for i have to it for darkest night

[balmy condor]

You don’t care about doing things during kingsbane, you care about having an envenom buff

And envenom lasts an eternity

So you just default to not caring

[cinder geode]

What point is DR for mastery for sin ?

[balmy condor]

0

[royal lantern]

!stats

[balmy condor]

618

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[balmy condor]

82629

[thorn thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/449080055893590017/1280746470815043646/456.gif

[fallow canopy]

between 0 and 99999999

[balmy condor]

Real

[haughty flicker]

i wish i was still 260 ilvl

ilvl squish when

[runic hinge]

Yeah especially when you’re in dry moments and you know it might be a while before you can do two finishers. Or you get unlucky with crits and gotta mut 8 times or something

[earnest timber]

Perfect time to log on for fresh memes

[runic hinge]

Next expansion? Midnight I think they said

[fallow canopy]

you just gotta do them wet finishers iywim

[gloomy otter]

bruh they rlly need to add a npc or something to reset CDs at the dummys , i hate it to wait everytime when im testin rota

[royal lantern]

fresh? that thing is older then 87% of #outlaw users

[earnest timber]

LOL

[royal lantern]

the "what stats???" question never goes away

[earnest timber]

Anyone swimming in the energy pool?

white monster flavor

[fallow canopy]

I mean that is why its called pooling no?

[royal lantern]

kb is up in 5sec, gonna take a quick dip

[fallow canopy]

I got a meme idea from that but I'm raiding brb

[red schooner]

at least i get to feel useful by typing !stats in response

so

[royal lantern]

4min in the air?

[red schooner]

i'll take it

[clever sparrow]

is it possible to sim Cyrce's Circlet gems?

[earnest timber]

yeah its on top gear

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/richard-hammond-the-grand-tour-clarkson-jeremy-clarkson-james-may-gif-27415224

[clever sparrow]

when i click its not working lol

[fallow canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/qeliameow-cat-paw-cats-paw-dance-gif-3807241812430059413

yea

[thorn thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-goes-insane-whose-toes-are-those-monkey-glitch-gif-27073059

[balmy condor]

What’s that mean

Like you can’t select it?

[clever sparrow]

i just want to sim these

[gray horizon]

Just downed m stix and a magnet dropped

[balmy condor]

Turn on replace gems

The checkbox

[clever sparrow]

IM BLIND. let me see

[earnest timber]

i think like 9/10 times itll be windsingers now, no?

cause skippers got nerfed

[clever sparrow]

found it

[clever sparrow]

the guy on warcraftlogs using squall

i was just wondered

[gray horizon]

and the DH got the magnet

[thorn thorn]

CONGRATULATIONS (Stix was harder on FOUR separate occasions) on the STIX MYTHIC (it was harder on 11/3, then 12/3, again on 12/3 2 hours later and then again 17/3 pre nerfs) CLEAR. I know you've been working really hard (Stix has been nerfed four times) at it, and I'm happy that you've (Stix used to deal more damage) achieved your goal of completion. I know your journey through (Stix used to be even harder) the content was filled with ups (balls didn't used to do so much damage!) and downs (Stix used to deal more damage), but you and (Stix short fuse periodic damage dealt 33% more damage) your group stuck (Stix used to be harder) together through them all (Electromagnetic Sorting damage decreased by 14%), and you were rewarded (Hyenas used to put on a bigger healing reduction) for your patience and (He had more health) tenacity. Congratulations (Stix used to be so much harder) once again, and here's to more success in your future (Stix used to be harder)

(Congrats tho)

[gray horizon]

That is an insane copypasta lol

[earnest timber]

had that one loaded up

[haughty flicker]

[balmy condor]

Anduin copypasta all over again

[royal lantern]

yo, dm me that

[thorn thorn]

[royal lantern]

need the copypasta in a few days

[thorn thorn]

All done king

[hidden bay]

Ye bigger for em

[fossil sand]

I ended up taking the mythic track Pacemaker from this weeks vault, but I'm having a hard time getting it to sim over my hero Amplifier. I've rearranged gear to shed crit wherever I can, opting for mastery with haste/verse on crafted items, enchants/gems. I can't drop enough crit for the sims to recommend Pacemaker.

[runic hinge]

Try a mastery flask

[fossil sand]

Is this a scenario where the sims dont tell the full story of its value, or do I need to get a House of Cards instead of my Signet for Pacemaker to come out on top?

[haughty flicker]

just have 60% mastery

[fossil sand]

on paper my mastery is at 63%, crit 29%

[haughty flicker]

im very surprised to hear myth pacemaker is losing to hero amplifier then ngl

then again idek what amplifier is

oh mechanocore

[drifting cloud]

hero track amplifier is a pretty good trinket

[fossil sand]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=232485/mechano-core-amplifier

[haughty flicker]

delve trinkets do be kind of good

[runic hinge]

The actual number of the stat is probably more important than the %

[haughty flicker]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aBzoEG87atCKtC5R8jwXGZ

actually its closer than i expected

[fossil sand]

20,251 mastery, 13,502 crit

[runic hinge]

[fossil sand]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aCuwrFsNZdu125PEkDc2Kg

[haughty flicker]

oh dungeon slice

[fossil sand]

even my ST spec it sims lower

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kf11DhudCKDwKJ7ZB7RGGQ

[haughty flicker]

oh well yeah on the same ilvl the core probably wins

[drifting cloud]

well yes because at same ilvl amp is a better trinket

[haughty flicker]

its just that it cant go to myth track

so at 678 pacemaker wins

[fossil sand]

ahh, ok that makes sense

didn thave the crests to sim it higher. i guess there is a way to do that but didnt occur to me

[fallow canopy]

mid sprocket prog meme

[cerulean nest]

someone have a macro for shiv/tea where it has a delay so I dont accidentally spam tea twice

?

[polar rampart]

i've seen it posted a billion times

[cerulean nest]

I know I just cant find it now

[haughty flicker]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[polar rampart]

i think theres a call for it

yep

that

[cerulean nest]

ah perf ty

[dapper cradle]

bro sin is pumping in keys holy

[polar rampart]

mine is 642 in old 4 set and did like 3 mil overall, i thought was pretty good for 642

made me kinda wanna get gear lol

[rancid wind]

Is Junkmaestro's Mega Magnet better than Pacemaker if you're using it during Lingering Darkness? Do the sims do this?

[fallow canopy]

I believe sims cast it twice during LD but I could be doing my favorite thing and be spreading misinformation

[spice surge]

Yes the sim is doing it

[dapper cradle]

bab my liege 🧎🏿‍♂️

[rancid wind]

Is there anything to macro it to so that it goes off automatically during LD or is it something i'd have to track?

[tiny thunder]

are my stats okay? a crit/mastery helm is simming lower than my haste vers (i have 5pc equipped)

[rancid wind]

I have a 665 Pacemaker and 665 Junkmaestro's, so if it requires extra thinking for the small gain then idk if its worth

[thorn thorn]

Grandmaster Babylonius

[rancid wind]

hi

[dapper cradle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/449080055893590017/1280746470815043646/456.gif

[hollow talon]

how long do i hold cd's on rik opener on mytico

[rancid wind]

why would you need to hold CDs?

[hollow talon]

lines up with the adds is what i was hearing

[rancid wind]

get yourself some Windwalkers and let them worry about that

[dapper cradle]

WW or sub rogue

[fallow canopy]

someone said yesterday 16secs but its just parse fiend behavior

[tiny thunder]

thank you

[dapper cradle]

just follow sims king

there's no ideal stat spread

[balmy condor]

It’s pretty integral to the power of the magnet, you lose like nearly 2.5%

[dapper cradle]

assa likes all the stats

[hollow talon]

https://i.imgflip.com/6an3o7.gif

[rancid wind]

gotcha

[thorn thorn]

@fallow canopy

[vocal cradle]

if i wanted to swap between assa and sub is lense close enough to ascension to justify using on my weapon?

[polar rampart]

is the core amplifier good on heroic?

[desert vault]

on cauldron splatter over internal bleeding?

[fossil sand]

mechano-core is good yes

[balmy condor]

Probably the other way around considering lens is pure single target dunno

But yeah generally doesn’t matter

All embellishments are equally awful

[vocal cradle]

word

thanks!

[hidden bay]

What else is there to do??? Parsing is what matters!!!!

[haughty flicker]

i mean yeah

parse>all

ez

[severe meadow]

W

[balmy condor]

W

[hidden bay]

[waxen oyster]

I mean if you think about it

more spatter on barrels means your ranged have to hit far barrels

in theory

[haughty flicker]

well yeah you lose nothing by moving cds forward a bit to hit barrels

it just forces your ranged to be ethical

[fallow canopy]

[balmy condor]

Idk if I like the “until dropping combat” stuff like kezan and jastor

Because it’s kinda cringe

[waxen oyster]

signet brand 2.0

[haughty flicker]

its giga cringe

[balmy condor]

But on the other side it’s another reason to tell mplussers that restealths don’t matter

[waxen oyster]

at least jastor is free

also holy fuck i hate stix

get me out

[fallow canopy]

gl soldier

[polar rampart]

i chain pull so hard even with rogue in group :x

and i always curse tanks when they do it to me, lol

[west crown]

insane trinket luck

[balmy condor]

I had an actual goat tank while I was farming signet, he chained perfectly and I literally jizzed myself

[fallow canopy]

did you go afk to clean yourself or finished the key jizzed?

[balmy condor]

Killed one caster and he pulled the next pack while the last was at like 50% hp

It was incredible

[haughty flicker]

that sounds nice

lmao

[balmy condor]

4.6mil overall at the end of the key

[balmy condor]

It was a 30minute long orgasm

I couldn’t stop

[fallow canopy]

damn

[polar rampart]

i try to be ethical, sometimes i forget tho

[balmy condor]

The difference between shit tanks and good tanks is honestly insane

[haughty flicker]

yup

[runic hinge]

Real

[brave comet]

absolutely

[runic hinge]

[amber brook]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[desert vault]

can you evasion the big trex laser on cauldron?

[thorn thorn]

If I see you in the wild im gonna grief the key real good

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1055196260329590874/1320668978732859402/big2.gif

[night bison]

!tee

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[balmy condor]

No

[balmy condor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/206466559672188928/1296588298214703160/Discord_IqX6veKvPV-ezgif.com-optimize.gif

[thorn thorn]

Omg that is incredible

One for my collection

[somber fractal]

is it just me or does this junkmaestro trinket suck?

[unreal tide]

i don't think the answer is the one you're hoping for

[somber fractal]

it stacks slow as fuck

and does shit dam

[unreal tide]

are you pressing it at the right time 🤨

[balmy condor]

🤨

I do not think they are pressing it at the right time

[somber fractal]

yes

after deathmark

but nice try

[drifting cloud]

do you know how much dmg its supposed to do or are you just saying shit dmg for fun

[dreamy rover]

NOT THAT SIMPLE

ITS WITH LINGERING DARKNESS BUD

SO AFTER DEATHMARK EXPIRES

[runic hinge]

Should wait for the end of it too so it has more stacks

Maybe

Idk

I ain’t playing that shit

[dreamy rover]

Youre right

dude wasnt pressing it at right time

[somber fractal]

yes i know the sims and you guys are fucking dumb for just assuming i dont know lingering darkness

[haughty flicker]

[dreamy rover]

kinda fair to assume that when you come into the discord saying "this trinket is ass "

[runic hinge]

Oh now we’re dumb

[dreamy rover]

when it clearly sims well

but go off dude

clearly the trink is performing bad because youre using it perfectly

[somber fractal]

man you guys are clueless

[runic hinge]

Me irl

[hidden bay]

Great chuckle right before sleep

[dreamy rover]

dude has to be ragebaiting

[hidden bay]

[thorn thorn]

Guys

[runic hinge]

I want to see his log

[thorn thorn]

Is house of cards secretly shit

It doesnt do damage only increase stats

Garbage trinket me thinks???

[dreamy rover]

https://tenor.com/view/bike-head-ding-ding-gif-14702293

[runic hinge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/933386399279878154/1347570769441329202/watermark.gif

[dreamy rover]

syre rn

[thorn thorn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/357465816964530177/1197167910058201160/speechmemified_image.webp_1.gif

[runic hinge]

That’s a tough watch

[balmy condor]

I am using the trinket correctly and it sucks and everyone else who is using the trinket and saying it doesn’t suck is wrong and I’m right and you’re clueless and fuck you for assuming that it’s the same question for the 9168th time

[hidden bay]

This discord is full with bullies

[balmy condor]

[fallow canopy]

happens to the best of us

[dreamy rover]

that dude's ragebait was 10/10 tbf

no way he's being serious

[solar thunder]

is there a build that runs Arterial precision for m+?

[dreamy rover]

yes!

[spice surge]

Yes bleed build

[dreamy rover]

the famed bleed build

[balmy condor]

He’s always pissy when he shows up don’t take it personally

[solar thunder]

anyone have the talents for it?

[balmy condor]

Wowhead

Scroll down a bit on the talent page

[runic hinge]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[haughty flicker]

this wowhead guy sounds pretty cool

[runic hinge]

John wowhead

[dreamy rover]

yhea

[solar thunder]

I swear I just looked at that and couldnt fin dit

[dreamy rover]

wowhead man is nice

[runic hinge]

It’s at the bottom of the page

Scroll farther

[balmy condor]

Johnathan Wowzersforehead the third?

[drifting cloud]

I think the guy who made the wowhead guide is hiding the build

[somber fractal]

brother i came and said the trinket seems to be not performing well. how is that ragebaiting

[drifting cloud]

probably intentional ngl

[fallow canopy]

the secret stealth build

[runic hinge]

He made it only available in china

[balmy condor]

I mean we tried to help and you snapped back, you’re the only person saying it sucks idk man

[drifting cloud]

blood is banned so how can you play bleed build there

[balmy condor]

Plenty of people using it and it cranks

[runic hinge]

Show log

[runic hinge]

Idk man I’ve never been

[desert spire]

I have a dumb question that, I have prob asked before. But are we macroing trinket with deathmark or no?

[sudden brook]

can I get a weakaura/plater wizzard

How do I fix this

WHy is the cast bar over my weakauras

[balmy condor]

Signet/house yes

[runic hinge]

That reminds me I gotta fix that too. Floodgate was hell today

[balmy condor]

Where’s the cast bar from

[sudden brook]

plater

[desert spire]

Thanks.

[dapper cradle]

new pin?

[balmy condor]

So I guess go into plater and move that idk

[cerulean nest]

can you shadowstep to lockenstock post-knock but pre-teleport

[dreamy rover]

you gotta change the strata/level of the castbar or auras

[cerulean nest]

?

[hidden bay]

Think there’s something wrong with your plater profile bro

[balmy condor]

In theory yes

[sudden brook]

Where is the setting

[hidden bay]

Ask your outlaw buddies

[balmy condor]

Isn’t there a category for cast bar in plater idk I’m not home to check where it is exactly

[sudden brook]

Im like in between pulls

Is it here

[drifting cloud]

brother plater has a search function

[sudden brook]

Ik

It wasn't helping

thats why im here

[drifting cloud]

fuck it youre playing assa you dont need to look at was anyways

its doomed

[balmy condor]

Yeh doesn’t seem to be there idk

[hidden bay]

Plater is rocket science

[strange python]

Guy why are you here

[drifting cloud]

hes on mugzee

[strange python]

Ah I see

[dreamy rover]

yhea i can work with weakauras pretty well, got absolutely no clue on how to change a simple setting in plater

[hidden bay]

I play standard profile in plater

[regal linden]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[dreamy rover]

i mean i would try to fix that by trying to get my aura's level higher than the plater castbar

since i have no fucking clue on how to work plater

[dapper cradle]

watch your language please

[hidden bay]

Could prolly paint the Mona Lisa with weakauras but plater? Damn son

[dreamy rover]

exactly lmao

tbh devs should try to make settings a bit more understandeable

such a mess

500 tabs

cluttered

[hidden bay]

I tried to add a glow to a nameplate

[dreamy rover]

lmao good luck

[hidden bay]

Couldn’t figure out how

[dreamy rover]

i was trying to make my plater change colors with deathmark, impossible

[hidden bay]

Then I copied Whispyrs profile and search for that since he has it

But then again I couldn’t find it

[sudden brook]

Im on mugzee

[dreamy rover]

had to import whispyr's one and copy a custom script from it

[sudden brook]

Fuck you pussy boy

[dreamy rover]

lmao

did that fix it?

[thorn thorn]

Plater is "copy someone else" the addon

[dreamy rover]

exactly lool

[drifting cloud]

[dreamy rover]

yhea, people who know how to work with it are wizards imo

[thorn thorn]

I copied Quaziis profile

Very goodge

[marble hemlock]

the real wizards are the ones playing in first person and without nameplates

[dapper cradle]

!ban ForeverGuy

[marble hemlock]

but yall not ready to hear that

[sudden brook]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-booty-shake-glorp-throwing-it-back-glorp-twerk-gif-15728514058189514652

[thorn thorn]

Last season we tried to do a 10 in first person

It was a siege

It went exactly how you think it did

[drifting cloud]

last season you didnt have the swirly tech

[hidden bay]

The other day I was drifting around with the car in first person, game hits different

[marble hemlock]

sounds like a skill issue imo

if you cant do a +10 first person only then

what are you even doing

[thorn thorn]

Its hard

Especially when frontals match the colors of the floor

Then they were legit invisible

[runic hinge]

Now we got new frontals that surely aren’t hard to see at all

[thorn thorn]

It will probably be much easier with new swirlie and frontal appearances

But we havent tried it since

[sudden brook]

Is there really no pooling to be done with lingering DN

Like I feel something shiv is like

3 seconds

im literally at 30/300 energy

with DN

wouldnt it be worth to just afk for shiv to dn then go

[hidden bay]

with deez nuts

No. There’s no pooling

Just play outlaw

[thorn thorn]

[sudden brook]

IOKay but how is that correct

Like I get generally speaking, u wanna just mash buttons on cd

But like

But holding for 2 seconds, with 0 energy, for DN just sounds correct

[drifting cloud]

because its probably such a small gain it doesnt reach the treshold to be included in sims

if I had to guess

[sudden brook]

Hmmm

[spice surge]

And when you have DN up, you dont have mark on boss

So you lose auto attack damage

[sudden brook]

Ah

Okay that makes sense

[runic hinge]

Hunt them down kinda crazy tuned

[muted agate]

how are people getting off so many envenoms? There must be a way to chain, but I am missing something

My damage is suffering lol

I'm seeing a rogue 20 ilvl behind me do equal envenom dmg

[haughty flicker]

personally i press mutilate until i have 5 cp

then i press envenom

[fleet pagoda]

the road to envenoms is paved with mutilates

[balmy condor]

Would assume probably bad deathstalker mark management or just not pressing buttons

[somber fractal]

Ok so heres a sprocket kill log with with the trinket. is this the kind of damage I should be expecting? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ZkP6wym7zWvfA31h?fight=79&type=damage-done&source=10

not me btw

[wide ferry]

Just went back to the hybrid build for a top +11...... feels like absolute dogshit compared to bleed...but bleed sucks ass in ST.... ugh

[muted agate]

Has anyone made a decent tutorial on when/how to pool energy to take advantage of HTD?

[runic hinge]

I don’t think the difference in ST is that huge

[strange python]

KB wet noodle

[haughty flicker]

i actually cant figure out what htd is supposed to be

oh hunt them down

im an idiot

[muted agate]

hunt them down

[haughty flicker]

why would you be pooling for auto attacks

how would that even work

[muted agate]

I find myself starved of energy a lot

out of tea, just stuck. Like the flow is off

[haughty flicker]

yeah but hunt them down is just autos on a marked target

and your target is marked almost the entire time

like you consume dn asap to get mark back up but its not something with pooling rules to achieve

[spice spire]

2%

1.3 now even

[haughty flicker]

unplayable

[spice spire]

Honestly the biggest deal with bleed is I forget to just send my shivs

Constantly waiting for kb

Doesn’t exist, say oh fuck

Shiv

[haughty flicker]

i have the opposite problem now actually

in raid sometimes i just randomly fucking press shiv not thinking

like 2 things to remember to do and somehow i forget

[dapper cradle]

this but ironically

[dapper cradle]

yeah I hope from stealth with double shiv

into triple tea

[haughty flicker]

based

[spice spire]

Me when I play sub (I’d never)

[dapper cradle]

ironically asking questions to get better at sub

and proceeding to ironically prog as sub

and ironically get really good top 10 parses

[haughty flicker]

me except i dont get good parses

but its all for the sake of irony so its ok

[spice spire]

same

[haughty flicker]

i might actually play sub on rik just because i can already foresee the shitshow that will occur

those barrels are not dying if i dont kill them

[dapper cradle]

sub on rik is great

timings are awesome

i started playing sin in a few keys

[spice spire]

I will show Richard reverberation that I’m an assman

And he’s looking thick as hell

[dapper cradle]

gonna give rikka rikka the dikka dikka

richard reverb watching me bite my bottom lip as the pull timer counts down

[haughty flicker]

the only time i dont play sin in keys is when i feel like trolling my guild a bit

[dapper cradle]

sub in workshop and top goes really hard

[haughty flicker]

then i play outlaw or sub

yeah i can imagine

[dapper cradle]

but I tried sin in mead and flood

[balmy condor]

Sub in top goes hard?

[dapper cradle]

holy it's so much better

[balmy condor]

[dapper cradle]

[haughty flicker]

sin on first boss floodgate is actually hilarious

[spice spire]

Bring back menhara pfp whispyr

[balmy condor]

Menhara my goat

Menhara lives on

Also need my phone to autocorrect it again

The robots are listening

[haughty flicker]

[balmy condor]

Menhera gets a red swiggly and it tries to correct to Menhara

I thought we had AI now

Why’s my autocorrect shit

[dawn heath]

how much are y'all simming

my rogue simming like a baby still

[haughty flicker]

not much recently

i cant afford to buy all the fucking dlc

and it feels bad not playing with it all

[earnest remnant]

think if i recraft for assa i sim like 2.2 st

[short delta]

Hey, what’s TTK referring to? What’s the concept behind ? And the interactions

[coral ibex]

twist the knife

talent

[balmy condor]

Twist the knife, it’s a talent

[dawn heath]

is assa undersimming?

[short delta]

Thanks

[dawn heath]

im not even breaking 2.1 post buffs

in 660+

[short delta]

Was only finding time to kill and was a bit confused

[earnest remnant]

nah that seems about right

[coral ibex]

663

[earnest remnant]

Rogue in general (apart from outlaw) doesent sim that high

[balmy condor]

The ability page on wowhead has all the talents and their acronyms and stuff

Like a term glossary

If you’re ever looking

[short delta]

Nice thx

[balmy condor]

That’s true for every spec’s guide

[lament jacinth]

just curious what the aoe rotation is for assassination in the traditional m+ build — hekili currently recommending lots of bleeds to open out of stealth but I'm wondering if I should be spamming fan of knives plus envenom more.

[balmy condor]

You get the bleeds up first then spam envenom

[lament jacinth]

so the bleeds go on separate targets correct? or can I put multiple garrotes and ruptures on one primary target?

[haughty flicker]

you can send them all into your main target and they'll spread

[lament jacinth]

ahh ok cool

[haughty flicker]

depending on target count it can be optimal to swap to targets without bleeds to spread faster but im too lazy for that

[balmy condor]

It’s also a massive pain in the ass to get right

For very little gain

[haughty flicker]

yeah i usually ended up taking too long to find the new targets

so wasnt even worth

[lament jacinth]

I was tab targeting my bleeds in large pulls — so it sounds like its better to cleave off of the largest health mob and spread the bleeds that way

[balmy condor]

Yeah just let carnage spread it for you

[low thicket]

I was looking into quazi's new plater addition to change the color of mobs that have rupture on them

[severe oyster]

You pick the mob with the most HP in the pack. Set up your bleeds, pop your cds, and then cry because your team did the same thing with cds except they have no set up.

So your target is dead before your DM and KB finish

[low thicket]

to hopefully make spreading bleeds easier

[haughty flicker]

the problem is more that even if you can clearly see which mobs dont have bleeds, trying to accurately click/mouseover the right frames in big pulls is a pita

for me at least

sometimes i just fling my mouse around and randomly mouseover spread hoping it works

[dawn heath]

this has gotta be a joke

[haughty flicker]

need a plater setting to make mobs without bleeds have massive nameplates and mobs with bleeds to have tiny ones

[low thicket]

I rarely swap target to spread bleeds. Probably would only bother having plates change color if my tank is chain pulling and I have no more vanishes.

[runic hinge]

I be taking kb with bleed now

[coral ibex]

same

[haughty flicker]

i specifically play bleed to escape the tyranny of kb

[lofty junco]

i have a very weird bug in raids. my envenom buff vanishs at like 50% duration sometimes. in both my weakaura and my buff bar

[runic hinge]

The prot warriors were making me cry tho

[haughty flicker]

thats why i just play with people worse than me

sin st is fine if everyone else sucks

[severe oyster]

Realest shit I've ever heard.

[subtle tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/plastic-man-real-real-powder-powder-that-makes-you-say-real-animated-comic-plastic-man-gif-7493651428267836743

[haughty flicker]

fuck

no room for the polish flag

[subtle tundra]

more m+ nerfs bro wtf

[cinder bone]

FUCK

[haughty flicker]

[slate crown]

that's not what you said last night

[rotund oak]

real question is what did he say

[neat flame]

Is whispyr still lurking?

[nova kelp]

whispyr is ALWAYS lurking

sometimes his stealth level is just too damn high

[neat flame]

Your name is wonderful to me cause I spread that meme to my guild and now we’re all casual “one macro a day to improve your gameplay” shitpost enjoyers

[balmy condor]

no

[rough lodge]

Did getting bubbling wax change? I just did a whole lap of pickpocketing at waterworks and didn't get a single one

[neat flame]

I've been using the bleed build you had in your video (the iron wire blindside one). I was comparing it to the default M+ build on wowhead (hybrid; kb and dragon temp blades). the single target sim damage is like virtually identical. I guess my first question is this a sim hallucination on my end? if not, is there really an upside to the hybrid build? my experience is that the kb-blindside-bleed build smokes it on aoe and if its more or less competitive in single target, why would it be the recommended build? could be a skill issue on my end maximizing that default M+ build though

[subtle tundra]

hybrid is more front loaded damage and usually better in m+

my take

also more burst

also caustic is busted

[balmy condor]

hybrid is technically slightly more single target, more bursty because of kingsbane, and because of that is also more prio damage most of the time

but yes

[subtle tundra]

does hybrid perform better in big aoe?

[balmy condor]

bleed build very good

[balmy condor]

questionably yes

depends on the length of the pull a lot of the time

[subtle tundra]

yeah if bleeds fall off and shiii

[balmy condor]

like "big aoe" yes if you sim like 10 target 3 min hybrid will win just cause the envenoms will eventually catch up and bleeds won't last till zoldyck

but I think in a normal like huge first pull lust and slam it down in 35-45 seconds

bleed probably wins

especially if you're vanishing for the refreshes

[neat flame]

that tracks with my experience

in the 10s-11s i do having vanish nearly every pull means sustaining bleeds is fairly easy, and its just wild damage

it can be easy to sustain very big numbers

[balmy condor]

maintaining a generalized sim that also can play all of these situations with like 6 or 7 different build is insanely difficult

so I would take any sim with a big grain of salt

[subtle tundra]

how tf do you have a 2 min cd on every pull

[balmy condor]

like I know for sure if you're simming 10 target sustained or whatever sustained patchwerk nonsense

[subtle tundra]

are you playing with bots

[neat flame]

without a trace and not every pull needs it

[balmy condor]

that's probably not playing uber optimally

[subtle tundra]

every pull
not every pull

aha

ok

[neat flame]

sorry let me be more clear

when i say "nearly every pull" i meant "nearly every pull where its required"

[subtle tundra]

im not (a) casual

[balmy condor]

that dude sims a lot

but I'm ngl

he's kinda burning the kitchen lately

supercharger just is not it

[subtle tundra]

i love placebo

or something

[balmy condor]

it's like +2% st and -9% aoe

it's actually horrid

basically just 11.0.0 subterfuge/wat all over again

[subtle tundra]

i will fabricate my own reality

type shit

[balmy condor]

also eye of kezan in m+

for the big boss damage when you're chaining

except you drop combat once and the trinket unequips itself

[subtle tundra]

isnt seaforium busted for assa though

[balmy condor]

yes

seaforium is crazy

[rotund oak]

im spamming delves actually

for a chance for the trinket

[balmy condor]

but they play eye of kezan on mythic raids cause big single target long fight good

[neat flame]

got a myth track seaforium this week in vault, papa ion was very generous to me

[balmy condor]

and so it's good in m+ boss if chain

or whatever

I haven't looked at a log to check any of that nonsense

and I don't want to

[subtle tundra]

i wish i had kezan... we didnt even do gally this week

[balmy condor]

cause there is no shot

[subtle tundra]

yea guys lets play a spec that loves to drop combat

but lets equip a trinket that requires no dropping combat

[neat flame]

my buddy got a hero track eye from his weekly quest today

some people are just built different

[subtle tundra]

yea me

i got jester diamond from the weekly

[neat flame]

i am in the presence of gods

[sacred schooner]

isnt it bug that it unequip itself?

[neat flame]

that said i cant raelly bitch after that seaforium

[subtle tundra]

if we do gally i also have prio on kezan

eye of kezan uptime in a random key from a random guy in a 14

he has been on full stacks for less than 1/3 of the key

[left magnet]

Hello gents. I currently play assas in m+ and I dont mind it. Is it worth trying to pick up sub? I mean is it that more efficient / better ?

[balmy condor]

probably not

[balmy condor]

yeah incredible work

[subtle tundra]

even worse in a dfc

[balmy condor]

show me a boss

on that dfc

like blazikon maybe

that's probably best case scenario tbh

[subtle tundra]

it was pretty well stacked

and thats the only time it was stacked for a significant amout of time

[balmy condor]

yeh assumed as much

LARGE TECHNOLOGY

for 1 boss

where you literally are in combat

until the boss spawns

[subtle tundra]

well even if you chain pull 24/7 the game is full of rp and areas where you have to walk after a boss

and shit

and you drop it

[balmy condor]

yeh

exactly

[manic sphinx]

Anyone have a WA for Cheat Death proc? Like, i realise I die a few times in raid - but then rememebred I have cheat death. So means I died twice 😵 ..i wonder if i need a screaming WA when it says my Cheat Death has procced, so I can like, pot or cloak or something straight after? 🤔

[blazing pumice]

it honestly wouldn't be hard to make one using the template system in wa

you would just need to add a trigger that when aura is active, sound is played

[manic sphinx]

Hey man, thanks to your vidoes, guides and streaming (and answering my questions) I managed to up my heroic parses from grey to 95-98s. I know it's jus theroic, but huge progress for me - so yea, thanks!

[manic sphinx]

True - I could play around a bit with it

[rustic parrot]

shouldnt house be used with kb or very slightly before kb instead of with dm?

[pliant grail]

Yep this dude is amazing 🙂

[opaque venture]

Hello evryone, where may i found any great assa guide ?

[lament jacinth]

hey y'all. for crafted gear are most going with double daggers with ascension? Currently have enough for a mainhand and my gloves have the crit embellishment.

[split flame]

for M+ bleed build are we using shiv on CD ?

[balmy condor]

THATS SO GOOD

98 on heroic is unironically like already crazy

[balmy condor]

you can, yeah

[manic sphinx]

98 only on vexie, rik and 1ab 😮

[balmy condor]

problem with that is you might hit your house on a non-dm kb in m+ for example

with some off timing

and that would be insanely troll

[rustic parrot]

yeah would def be bad

might just manually press

[balmy condor]

deathmark might be like 0.1% worse in theory

but like

who cares tbh

[balmy condor]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
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[balmy condor]

no no no no

1 dagger craft only

[balmy condor]

idk bout "on cd", but you want to be using it in aoe after casting CT, or during deathmarks like usual

ideally both

[split flame]

for bleed build do we want to take improved ambush to leverage blindisde instead of Tight Spender?

[lament jacinth]

does this mean that ascension doesn't stack? So just focus on crafting the mainhand?

or because our abilities scale mostly off mainhand.

[balmy condor]

no, ascension stacks it's just offhand daggers are dogshit value

you just craft a writhing band onto any other piece and double the ascension that way

[balmy condor]

you can, but it's generally worse

[lament jacinth]

acknowledged! thank you!

[balmy condor]

np king

go forth and craft

[split flame]

i simmed in dungeon slice and its showing improved ambush having about ~5k dps improvement for me

[balmy condor]

yeh

[runic hinge]

[balmy condor]

5k is nothing

[storm hedge]

Yo since Atrophic poison stacks with 30 rogues you would have like 90% DR. Ez hc raid don't even need tanks or healers

[balmy condor]

well yes but no

[hollow river]

[balmy condor]

you'd technically only have a 66.711% DR

but close enough I guess

[runic hinge]

that’s huge

Then you only need red drink

[storm hedge]

Shame. Also you'd get fucked by non boss damage

[manic sphinx]

Atrophic stacks? 😮

In that case would it be worth having 2 rogues use it? Our other rogue switches to the other one, since we have 2 rogues in our comp

[storm hedge]

With 26 rogues you still have almost 62% DR so 26 rogues 2 tanks and 2 healers.

[balmy condor]

you'd go to a total of 7.1% dr

so yeh probably I guess

[drowsy pumice]

what addons/WA's are best to track DOTS etc? Luxthos is often too overwhelming for me

[storm hedge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[drowsy pumice]

Thank you

[storm hedge]

But you will likely find all of them overwhelming, since they are similar

[drowsy pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/dented-pepe-dentge-meme-hit-gif-15873918808390144538

Okay I will check them out anyway and see

[runic hinge]

I switched from luxthos to whispyrs and it’s much more comfy for me

[sudden brook]

Dude sin is

So fucking easy

[balmy condor]

yes

and people still complain

[sudden brook]

ABOUT WHAT

Dude this can't be the 3rd channel that people complain about how bad the state of the spec is

am I the only mfer who likes rogue in this whole damn server

[balmy condor]

pooling so confusing (doesn't exist)
when do I hit shiv it's so confusing what's a dry shiv (not that complicated)
I have to move deathstalker on carnage and it's cringe (very easy)
energy so slow and ugly (raid isn't even that slow tbh)
auto tea reeeeeeeee (grow up)

[runic hinge]

I like rogue

[balmy condor]

when do I fok

althought that last one I kinda get cause vv threw everything out the window and 40% mut/ambush buff did change the logic

[hollow river]

havoc is fun

[drowsy pumice]

How bad is it to have 54% Mastery?

[balmy condor]

that number means nothing

so

probably fine

[drowsy pumice]

Okay

[blazing pumice]

bad if you are 678 ilvl m8

[sudden brook]

dude

[drowsy pumice]

but should I still aim to get stats more in balance because of the diminishing factor?

[blazing pumice]

no

you sim

and you don't think about diminishing returns ever

[balmy condor]

I'm not kidding

[blazing pumice]

you don't need to get zen with stat balance

[drowsy pumice]

Okay cool thanks

[zinc frost]

Ill never understand the whole "slow" thing people complain about as if its the first time sin has ever been a slow spec

[pliant grail]

Guys help me. Wanna start to play rogue again in keys, but my dark side tells me to switch for udk. Any reason to stay with rogue for 12-13 keys ? 🙂

[runic hinge]

Because it’s fun

[blazing pumice]

it's early season and picking meta classes is tea leaf reading

[runic hinge]

Assa in keys rn probably most fun I’ve had in a hot minute

[warm lantern]

do both? not often unholy is the perceived "meta" its a fun experience, and 12s-13s isnt gonna require the same investments as higher keys

[grim jay]

Also uhdk isnt that much better

For now

[grim jay]

Its been quite the fun experience ever since the rework imo

[midnight mist]

didnt they fix that late df

[grim jay]

Yes

Iirc

[drifting cloud]

yes and its now bugged again

[midnight mist]

what

Is there a log floating around that people tested on

Like late df

[drifting cloud]

remember when ptr had some hotfixes and half of them didnt go to live this patch

[midnight mist]

Or how do you guys know

[drifting cloud]

could be in that bunch

[pliant grail]

Playing enh also 🙂 3 chars a little bit to much

[midnight mist]

Yeye..

[violet jackal]

not vanishing in single target is weird doesn't give doapmine

[warm lantern]

just cut all irl obligations

[grim jay]

Just vanish then

[blazing pumice]

it would be nice if ambush was a bit more blasty

[violet jackal]

talent change vanish no longer needed

[blazing pumice]

it seems like a spell that should one tap people

[grim jay]

Idk, generator damage is pretty lame imo

The only time I enjoyed generator damage was ambush on sub when it still was a decent part of the damage

Like in hfc

[grim jay]

You can still press it tho

If it makes you feel better

[violet jackal]

losing dps is depression

[grim jay]

Placebo vanish