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I mean, you move at the speed of a tired gary the snail, but you can move
PI and death all there

still no idea
I’m only 651 on Pwar
ah, wheelchair blastin'
is this mythic only?
But I crafted my arms weapon
Its a rare cloak from lockenstock
ohhhhhhhhhhh
you run on water with the effect too right?
man... we used to be able to sprint on water with a glyph...
i'm still a sin at heart, i jsut couldn't stomach playing the same rotation for another tier
glyphs were cool
I was literally about to say
I miss this so so much
How is assa feeling so far this patch for y'all?
ACTUALLY WATER SPRINT IS BIS BECAUSE AT 22.7 MINUTES INTO X/Y DUNGEON THERES A LAKE WHERE YOU CAN AVOID THIS MECHANIC

i walked into heroic without playing it since last tier, killed first boss, and logged off
and I'm over here like "I like water sprint coz cool"
Remember when we used Sap? Good times

yeah minor glyphs were great fun
Lmaooo
does anyone know why glowtorc's recommended BiS? every sim i do rescue-keg sims better. is it just for the extra vers for survivability?
if rescue keg sims better then use it
You don’t sap the left mob on top to skip the first pack
I still sap all the time, not because I need to, but because it's on a macro with pickpocket and I use the glyph to take their form
There are 100 combinations of bis gear
so I spammed that shit on kurog
we still do sometimes
if i was to play rogue, i'd probs main sub this tier
in mists last season it was useful
i still sap everything i can
and annoyed the raid with my gigantic kurog form
I pickpocket mobs to gain Disguise
We are not the same
based
disguise is bis
Most of my tanks just unga bunga pull anyway
most tanks*
Can't recall the last time someone suggested a Sap on something
!tea
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
I be sapping and using distract a lot
they don't need to, everythings already mind soothed
Distract more-so in season 1
I remember seeing this macro the other day here and wondered how someone could mess that up
Then I did it in raid last night 
Shit you right, Priests everywhere
I distract the priory pats a bit. Last room, courtyard.
that or there's always a monk around doing their little "swishwish" and paralysing everything
from range
on a short cd
with no cp usage
like a FUCKING DICK
Meanwhile I'm energy starved
Poison?! Nope I’m cleansed
I don’t like where these mobs are ranged to. Take my ring of peace to come closer. Now eat my spin cycle
Most real shit I’ve read all day lol
aight folks it's 3 am and I get up in 3 hours for work
so... that's a thing
deuces
3am where the fuck are you from?
😂
hey fellow stabbers , do we spam FOK and CTW during raid cleave?
W
If someone isn't logging is there any way to still check your parse? My group wasn't logging and I would have gotten a 98
am i trolling playing bleed build in aoe dungeons at like high ish keys like 14?
i got recruited into a guild with the leader upfront telling me im not gonna be benched. this is the second week as a trial and i think i am not gonna be allowed in progs.
I do like that build
See how good the group is, if you're benched because of too many people or something else, and if you can do m+ in the meantime
I had a guild like that before, if they don't do things with you then just find a guild that will lol
bleed
bleed for lower hybrid for higher
bleed works wonders in weekly 10's
how can i find all the possible crafted gear? i mean i am searching for the craftable neck but idk which one is it
You can upload the combat logs later to have it logged
yea but that still requires him to have started logging
might not have any addons configured to auto log
is it recommended to have an addon to auto log
if you did log the encounter you can just upload it with the wcl app
its way more reliable than remembering to type /combatlog
sorry if this was already discussed but as for the nerf to single target with the talent swap does anyone know what talents we swap for that?
im a warcraft logs addict so i just log everything myself to make sure
playing scared in raids for 6 months made me only wanna do damage when I moved over to retail
what nerf
i meant buff sorry
check pins
It’s updated on WoWhead as well
!up
Quick question about the mega magnet: Do we want to save up to full stacks and only send with lingering darkness? Or just send on CD?
what addon do you use for it?
think you send it at the end of lingering
dont quote me on that though, I am a pacemaker enjoyer
End of lingering
good-enough vault
i think method dungeon tools
or MRT
i think its MRT actually
do you need MRT? I thought just having the warcraft logs app was enough
idk, does the wcl app auto start logs?
live logging doesn't do anything if your game isn't logging
you can either live log or upload stuff thats saved
yea live log doesn't make the game start logging tho afaik
yeah thats what the manual upload is for, not sure though
but I think I did logging before MRT
the game can create the log
by typing /combatlog
MRT just automatically does that part
ah might be my dbm
you can have the raider io app log too i think

hey guys im new to sin, can/should i macro thistle tea to deathmark? is this a bad habit?
are the bloodmallet sims for trinkets up to date with the latest trinket changes
macro tea to shiv
can soemone post that bleed m+ buld real quick
yo guys, is it worth it crafting the neck on 675 as a third craft 🙂
I did because I can't get a damn neck to drop
sim yourself brother
I ran DFC more than 20 times never drop neck for me
might be better to use gear compare for that since you can adjust stats there, droptimizer for craft only has 1 option for stats
quick question: these are my stats right now (minus 3470 vers because potion is running).
why does crit sim so bad for me?
Bruh I’m due to get two fractured sparks drop but this shit is just not dropping
is %7.67 haste too low ?
You need more mastery
Mastery is better for ST than crit when playing Deathstalker. Crit is stronger in aoe tho
why would it be stronger in AoE
doesnt literally all of our aoe damage count as mastery (poisons and bleeds)
crits = more cp
is there an addon or anything to let youknow when your lingering darkness is up
ah true
At like 15 targets crit might be lower again but who cares
now with the changes/buffs to sin, would u say there are still bosses where playing sub is more beneficial for progress?
If you can play both equally as well, propably.
ngl i kinda mourn the loss of vanishing during dps cds, made the burst window feel more active and interesting
idk not really
Definitely Rik, if you guild struggles with the pyros
just play what you want at this stage
wait...wouldn't the cleave from splatter be better then sub in that case?
ye
hes meaning to step and sectec one far away
rng can be fucky with the spawns
but tbh rogue is shit at target swapping so not really your job
sub will do no damage if you dont have cds for the add and sin takes like 4 globals to get going
and if your deathstalkers mark is left on the boss its even worse
what do ya recommend for bandit HC progress?
again either are fine as normally the boss will be pulled onto the adds so both are good
me too. just did my first raid after reset, and rotation without vanish and using fok know feels a bit braindead. at least i had to think about vanishing and applying garrote again, but now it almost feels too simple
sub will probably do better in lower target count situations with cleave but just do what you want
think about it like this, assa is constant good damage sub is v v v v spikey
if you fuck the spike up youre done
are we supposed to be avoiding dumping our energy below 30? i noticed my thistle tea charges were being used without me using it and didnt know why until i read the tooltip of thistle tea lol
i usually just send it personally but i try to have 1 or 2 up for dps windows in case i fuck up and don';t pool a bit before them
it's less then 0.1% increase if you avoid it iirc. So don't bother
alright fair enough. ty
sims don't anymore
i've absolutely had times where bc of mechanics i don't think hard enough and drop a gcd or two during kb due to energy starvation
not sure how much it actually matters
but

i pool a bit just because it feels more fun and purposeful that way than just pressing buttons 24/7
What you want to do there is pool 4 seconds before KB
ya p much jksngfnjk i usually pool to 160ish before sending it
assuming thistle charge
idk if any1 relates but has ass felt simpler and simpler to anyone else since like s3/s4 of DF?
Tbf I hated s3 cause of the PI. Not sure about how simple it was but pooling felt better back then
ER is dead, supercharger doesn't affect how you play, MA is dead, shadow dance doesn't exist anymore (actually happy about this ngl fuck shadow dance), thistle tea timign doesnt matter anymore
pooling is
now
largely
Ye pretty much
I mean assa is a pretty simple spec overall I feel. I play it cause of the simplicity
do you still do the opener like ambush - gar and so on or do you use mut instead of gar like the wowhead guide suggests? if you do indeed mut, when do you do your first gar?
i mean yeah but there was always a few things you could do to squeeze out some extra damage yk
which made it fun
now it just feels head empty asf
genuinely might try to learn outlaw again or smth idk
havent played any other specs than ass in years
yeah right
not rly sure what other spec to try if i dont like outlaw
what else do yall play and enjoy
i used to play enh sometimes and it was ok
ooof my mastery is so low, 18,189 ... huh but sims still want more crit and haste, interesting!
I thought you were trolling but the guide actually says that
i might try out sub if i can get a hoc with my dinar
We kinda like all stats compared to other classes
we just like crit and mastery more
ya I know sin doesn't care much, just give em stats and they happy
according to sim you still garrote after the initial ambush
just wonder if a bit more mastery for raid will help, guess we'll see later
It literally doesnt
Its a Flowchart
@storm hedge thank you
It says to mut after garrote under a specific condition
ah it means mut after gar due to lower cp gen?
Yes
thank you
Well ye but I can see the confusion that's what I mean
I hope Whispyr is too busy to read this
also you dont need to mutilate if you crit the ambush
If you run imp ambush
well in any situation you dont run SS you run imp ambush
you do in ST


I used to fok in between, but now running vicious venoms!
Can still fok with ctw
Its somewhat neutral
Apparently not, only with 2+ targets
okay Davyn what about this
Its not much of a loss
I am running tight spender, but still get 4 combo points from my ambush
what now cuh
Sin liking all stats does make droptimizer absolute dogshit
can we get slow mode sin again
But how
though
ever heard about FATEBOUND?
How much crític do i need in order to generate good combo points...?
slow mode sin chat is lore accurate to how the spec plays
I will certainly bind your fate if you hit me with that BS again

doesnt matter
There's no breakpoint, sim yourself
then thats the fate im dealt
give this to deathstalker please!! make it even more ahead
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
mmm i try bleed talents on dummys and on 5 target 10M i never get into 10m with hybrid build on 5 targets
thats make me think
Hybrid focuses alot more on spatter damage
At least it’s not as bad as DR BM
I think?
DR Bm is like 30% behind in M+
And fatebound is still playable on ST right
And has more ST
Call me fatebound
Its 1900
its 20:14
u freaks are way behind!
I try to compensate for the arousal I create
It goes concave king
If I try hard enough
Does it reach your chocolate starfish?
Nah

yooo the renown 19 mount goes kinda crazy
I feel like I'm cheating btw
Everything reminds me of her
Girl got her legs on my lap while being on the phone and working on her laptop while I smile because I chat with my true love
(hint: its you)
Damn
That’s too real
It’s like watching oxi getting married while the love of his life is forced to watch (stealthi)
i call it ret pally brain
look good on overall
tank dam to mob that matters
Dang, we got so many movie situations in here
we play arterial on every boss except lockenstock right?
Yes
the diff is so minor but yes
prio between bleed and hybrid is basically the same, and from what i remember seeing eleem post the st is not much different either
1,3%
people will be pogging their champion to doing 1,3% more damage in single target when its tank damage * 1.013
Mf don’t you play Pwar
hey it got nerfed
its basically a dps with a shield
keep up shield block and sometimes press wall when you see your hp move
fury prot is back 🥲
is it normal that depths simming this higher than power?
or shouldi just go for power
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
In ST?
for raid
Very normal
idc about m+
the raid is mostly aoe this tier
Radiant is better in aoe
only 1 boss is actually single target
so radiant is the play then
How many instances of garrote and rupture should I have up on an m+ pack for the energy conservation? 3 of each if I’m right?
atleast 5 total for energy
should my splatter be my top dmg?
Garrote outside of stealth should not be spread
Oh so literally 1 garrote and 1 rupture in carnage is enough?
Wild
!wa
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anyone on the splatter dmg?
cant be
yes my guild is running stealth mode
how much stacks should the magnet trinket for use?
cringe
What am I dropping for VV in raid
Ma and imp garrote
Ty
just to confirm mythic rik still uses teh cleave build right?
Dude sin rogue sT still so low compare to some other specs like mm hunter
just check logs
MM hunter is kinda busted though
highest sin rogue on 5th boss of raid has 2.5m dps highest mm hunter is 3.3 seems like hunters are from next expansion
comparing with other classes is kind of stupid
yeah but not just hunter other classes aswell
Ok tell me when you play in a guild where it matters
ok what now
sprocket is the one boss that is st this tier
anyone?
can someone tell me with how much stacks we should use Junkmaestro's Mega Magnet?
Why does Trashmaster's Mantle sim so high, does anyone know?
Doesn’t matter as long as it’s within lingering and doesn’t screw up your other on-use
Just don’t sit on it at stack cap
eituer you have it high ilvl or have low vers
must be the latter then, ty 😛
Depends on your other stats I think but you obv need more vers by the look of it
cause most of the bosses are not beaten yet in mythic by those people
or most guilds
Random thought, in DM window I’ve been applying stealth garrote and then DM. Should I be doing DM first?
Thanks for the input... I'll look into my question
!wa
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Doesn't matter
yoo I snagged a rank 1 lets go
27 mil envenom crits you love to see it
HUH
tha fuck
did 2 bikes aswell, ethical parsing only!
guys in raid build in fights with adds at how many targets do we build with fok? or is it always muti regardless?
5
Oooo show me!
I try and learn from logs lol
should i be using my shiv dry on mythic rik when the ads spawn??
thats insane
should be a bannable offense
I got a 98 on our first gally kill because adds spawned, I was in CDs and with 2nd potion, just as he was dying and I spattered a monster env crit onto everything lol. This is truly the way
Whetstone only on MH ?
no?
both hands
can't tell if this is serious or not 
it is
thank you ❤️
@humble verge I got your rank 1 😄
what ilvl
664
do you start monkey side
it was so nice for cauldron tbh
you just got me excited for this tonight
Hey, any recommendations for high-parsing Assa Rogue YouTubers with recent S2 vids? Trying to improve
just make sure you actually ambush out of vanish though 😄 like wait for GCD/energy for ambush if you are a fellow spammer
energy feels weird
with the new talents
i dont care how energy feels, all I know is that it feels fucking good to press mutilate and blindside procs
builder doing damage just feels so good idk
yea the spec is slower than the free energy spam from last season
i cant corelate
literally dropped like 7 cpm
trying to beat my monk friend who usually hits around 88 parses in dps
!guide
Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
50.9 apm by the robot and i believe it was almost gcd capped last season
you will beat 88 parses by excelling at fundamentals and having a fast kill
Since today update, vicioius venoms became more attractive in raid what do you think ?
dont need to do anything crazy
big things happening
big true
so TTB and Arterial are simming exactly the same for me, I guess in any fight with adds I take Arterial?
like wtf is this
call me the robot
hero talent buffed fok was at 2 targets or 3 better than mut with the new talentbuild? heard 2 and 3, unsure whats right and wrong
its in the pins
well i atleast got a decent log on vexie
a 97
i got in on carnage
even tho i wanted rik
apparently im getting 4 myth vault this week
SURELY I WILL R1
I am currently relaxing watching discord stream of rik
Rik Reverb?
how long do fleeting tempered pots last btw
yeah
30s
sorry meant the fleeting ones, can I log out and keep them for a while
sometimes i wonder if 2 hc slots is better just for jastor diamond
the lack of energy in the new build pains me slightly
hmmm
I wonder if adding Kingsbane to Venomous Wounds would patch up our ST energy woes
14 seconds every minute would add what, circa 56 energy, doubled in deathmark? okay no, that's probably not enough
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
just start looking at mutilate damage on details every pull
true, i'll feel better
mutilate third on damage, life is good
ye i feel better now ty
no worries 🤝
You’re playing the low apm rogue spec
and wondering why energy feels “low”

i mean
instead of AA?
Better to get something free right
yes
Don't wanna waste money
i feel AP would be better tho
arterial on aoe fights
TTB saves a little bit of energy
unlucky
but they are like even
and then if u ever hit a shiv on anything at all other than main target its sick
like honestly the s1 build where
its just that assa with more energy doesnt really gain anything in gameplay
you jst spam mut mut envenom more bettwen cds
cool
Nothing like a group of 3k chads blasting you through TOP because they need shroud
why do they need shroud lol
can also just soothe that
last mini boss in arena
dont believe me, people still somehow aggro
you shroud and roar to skip it
dont need to shroud
its a requirement in higher keys
just roar
dont need shroud there
you just w
you jst need any ms increase
really? dont tell them that lmao
like, all stay togheter and run fast
nothing more
the chick has stealth detection anyway 
I can't wait to hit 3k and just go back to doing 8 10s for vault each week
anyone want a sneaky tip? shiv and save supercharger from trash before a bos
I'm not wondering why it feels low
I'm wondering if there's a fix for it that doesn't just flood energy like mad
What is this the sub channel?
same principal
with VV do we still spam mutilate and envenom like crazy while kingsbane?
shimbols of whispyr
ye
that reminds me
@balmy condor this is gonna be dumb, clear the witness during kb assuming you're energy starved aka naked kingsbane
wurf or nah
with vv / bside
does rotation/cd useage wise change anything with VV?
vanish is not used anymore
+1 target to make fok worth from previous rules
looks about right if you're not running a bleed build
if you are, then CT should be way up
Sub players seeing this
Är egentligen sub? 
its internal joke
buddy gaslighting his guild!
so 3 targets IIRC?
cool, yep no bleed build there. was using the hybrid one
sub is only fun when its the most oppressive pvp spec in the game for a few weeks every 3-4 xpacs
sub is fun if you dont have transmitter
sub is fun when you one shot people in open world with two buttons
er my beloved
Sub is fun when you spend 2 mins auto attacking a mob before boss because you are auto attack the spec w/o CDs and then explode for a 7M opener

Shadowstrike teleporting everytime in Legion was fun too. Just wrecked open world
Any guild outside of RWF that tries to force you to play a spec ain’t worth it
Play what you want cos that’s the spec you’ll do best at lol
bro didnt read the whole line i posted
Symbol pre pull supercharged > shiving some random bloke for supercharge
they are joking :DDDD
tho i was actually benched on rik cause i do shit damage to adds lmao
lowkey this is the raid with the strongest case for switching specs
certain fights HEAVILY play to specific specs
stuff like boomkin / ranged on stix etc
I hate it too ngl
when sin is supreme
I tried sub it’s a bit of a mindfuck
bc sub can cleave shit without the boss being moved xd
call me a moron but is this saying that you FoK with 3 targets in m+ when you have blindside proccd?
realistically if you can't get better results as sub you just talk straight with ur guild and explain
nah bc m+ takes thrown precision
and no vv
with thrown fok is on 2
well not if u are bleed build
that has blindside
bro
then u fok on 3
thats what I was talking about my fault I shouldve clarified
read what you typed again
Just to confirm, with VV we dont do clear the witness? or we do? or it doesn't matter or
Nope
ok ok
we don't on 1 except during lingering where it's neutral
so you can just not fok on st
we just ignoring that bleed has thrown
Does the nature dmg from VV count as a poison and apply to spatter?
I stand corrected
🤝
gg gf looking forward to rematch
im so fucking confused. so you just use fok in the bleed build with blindside procc on if you have anything more than 2 targets
It doesn't need a fix
you dont FoK on 2 with blindeside cause you can proc blindside
on more than 2 yes, on 2 no you mut
tbh if you have a blindside proc in aoe it's nice to send it if a fok doesn't get you to 7 for dn / to refresh spatter
of course of course I was just looking for clarification lol
thank you
that's your opinion, mine's different ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Sin has always been a slower spec
play outlaw if you want a spamfest
sub is somewhere in between
Sub is pretty much the same as assa really
don't like sub
outlaw is too fast
even if sin were to be rid of lack of energy, it wouldn't get massively faster anyways
Its just concentrated into the burst windows with lots of offgcd stuff
i actually might try out outlaw
it'd be like
what, five APM higher?
than to learn sub
outlaw is only due to the fact their gcd is .8 during AR
which if you play right is, most of the fight

true
Outlaw difficulty is so overrated. the APM is not nearly as insane as people say it is
for me its always been the easiest rogue spec in practice
when you had shadowdust and venthyr
also lowk broken as all hell having cloak on like a 15s cd
that shit was so fun
it was but my god was it imba
your mobility had like, no cd
on either step or hook
the only rogue spec I cant have fun on is sub. I just cant get used to the out of cd playstyle
I like outlaw because you can use Hekili and hit like 95% sim dps
sub is like
20s of blast
then you kinda just play with your meat with backstabs
until cds are back
it must feel way cleaner in raid than m+ huh?
for fucking real
sub has the benefit of 1 talent build fits all, so it's more or less the same in both contents
the comedic part about trickster sub is tricks threat persists through tank death
so if your tank dies and releases the pack chases him
I mean assa in raid for the most part has 1 build
you change 1-2 talents
yea but its played and built differently for M+

sub raid and M+ is identical aside from rupture spreading
Assa in raid: Bruh you cant expect me to do anything but hit the boss
Assa in keys: Bruh you cant expect me to actually do any boss dps
something about sin flipping around and becoming the primo AoE and worst ST spec for rogues in M+ is amusing
i wont ever fix my rik log
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
yeah man let me
just spend 3 gcds before i can hit this barrel fr
though arguably worse for sub if you sent a secret tech before the spawn
backstab no sod dam
Well you can just not 
yeah pretty much
it is a bit annoying when some other classes just roll up and smack the boss like they're in ST build anyways, then do 8kk on packs anyways
sub CDs usage lines up very well with barrel spawns as long as you are paying attention to the timer
lmao
got a 2nd rik dagger
so do assa cds if you just hold until 18s to send the opener
beg your tank to drag onto the mobs
Fire mages can
Although most probably play the pad build with slightly less ST
rik barrel spawn has too much RNG, bad mental to sweat parse on it
fire mage aoe is just ignite spreading for 90%, yeah?
maybe i should clean my bag
probably
honestly Baganator just fixes that for me, everything is nice and orderly
are you sure
our ranged have always hit it
fire is just one of those specs better for st
ethical range players

never met an ethical ranged player
Yeah ethical ranged player doesnt exist
besides the bm players that know they're mechanics bitches
i mean when you play the ranged spec
their fault for having 100% DPS while moving
that suffers 0 for moving
you mean they don't bring drills into melee range on Lockenstock?
that's just people paying attention to WAs and debuffs or not
have had multiple wipes from melee running into mine spawn chasing boss
ultimate greed
can u take all 3 mines from lockenstock with only feint?
tbh my favorite is on stix
"dont set trash on fire"
trash under boss
tank doesnt move
yeah
doubtful
i dunno about below mythic, but you get a giant debuff on mythic and cant do more than 1
it's what, +1000% damage?
I mean, CoS might save you? it's fire damage
pala
i think hunter?
like take one, then CoS with that one DS talent to extend it to 7 seconds, take second, then take third once raid is safe
haven't tried it yet tho
generally you have ranged trip them
there's really no reason to have a single person doing multiple mines anyways
idk i still feel rogue got largely powercrept by other classes
in defensiveness over the last few expacs
feint being taken off the GCD was massive imo
i know a few other specs have it, but cheat death is godlike in raiding atleast
it was
still one of the best things
besides fire having caut+alter
alter still requires brain input but its one of the best things
the shiv spam protection here doesn't seem to be working for me, any ideas?
elusiveness is still great in M+ too, as long as you remember to feint
I wonder what corruption thing we’ll be using in .5
i lowkey love my evasion raid CD in raid
3k
am i turning into a m+ andy
pls somone end me quick
missed having it as sub

No
i mean sub has a flat 5% dr

due to the trickster node
my brain doesnt care
i mean, bait and switch is REALLY fucking strong
cant complain about that
gimme that 20% magic reduc during sprocket intermission
not wrong
This season isn’t too bad tho. I don’t mind the dungeons
i'd rate it up there if
Finished my portals already
rune carved plates from dk didnt exist
Over halfway to my key total from the entire s1
i'm curios as to why my caustic splatter is so low ::P
Anyone tried the Vicious Venoms in Raid yet? Feels horribly slow
need a bit more context, is that a full dungeon run, what keylevel etc. but first thought would just straightup be low uptime (if you dont mutilate often enough), but that envenom cast-amount also seems kinda low
that's pretty low uptime for everything, I think?
the high SD damage makes it seem like a lowkey, yeah. might not get as much value out of it there, especially if you dont mutilate early into the pull for the caustic debuff
stuff might be dying too fast to really spallter? that's a high % for demise
guys we don't thistle tea with the dry shiv in Lingering Darkness right?
could just be forgetting to muta ruptured target too
its literally how assa was pre tww
nvm, uptime on dots is good
nah wasn't this slow in DF imo
and ofc VV makes you slower
well u macro tea to shiv
Ah okaays, ill try record a key next key
yea and it feels wrong
i have mouseovers so i might be accidently tabbing wrong target
Thinking is a dps loss
assa just kinda plays quite differentely between a key where most trash dies in ~10seconds, vs one where stuff lives 30+
No it was slower in DF
you didnt have 2x env buff
low keys as assa is just suffering
low keys its very possible you are trying to env
by the time you're done with setup, they're dead
into a mob that has no spatter debuff
idk, i never minded it
love 7 GCD opener on M+ trash before you start AoEing
just stinky for KB but i mean, youre better off not using it at that point
hope the 20m hp mobs live longer than 5 seconds
I do like spamming fan of knives and crimson tempest xD
if the content is super low you just
SD doing a lot of heavy lifting in lower keys nowadays
yeah dont spam CT, it has no instant damage component anymore. just maintain it like a DoT
its very hard to get good spatter value in low keys
eh, low keys you kinda crank cus you set up bleeds->enemys die form demise
Never did low keys anymore though
pmuch ye, just go full bleed and cry as other classes do 15mil DPS after 3 GCDs
Ah okay thankyou

what im struggling with it noticing when my doots are falling off
because i have to tab all to reaaply with my wa i use
!wa
this one
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
luxthos one
you might want a plater type addon
you should get a WA that shows scent stacks
that shows your dots on all the nameplates
Hey guys, quick question, do we have a minimum on haste cap? like 5% or smth? Sry im new to Assa 😄
I use quaziis
hmmm
VV is like -1000-1500 energy over the course of a fight
rough
and he shows like 60 dots xD
god this new discord is so fucking ass
im sure it was filters
if things are dying as fast as they are in your low keys, you shouldnt have to reapply in a pull
or some rogue somewhere can give a profile import to only show what you care about
sim topgear nothing else matters
Thank you, I tell my friends discord changed and they gaslight me saying nothing has changed
also, should be using vanish as much as possible
text is smaller right???? im not going crazy
im legit getting eye damage from this
To be fair I haven’t gotten the update yet either, discord always rolls out updates slowly
whispyr plater does garrote and rupture and cuts all the fat
Guys which talents we are playing for m+ bleed build but ıdk which one we are gonna change for blindspot?
I set mine to the darkest colors available for ultra dark mode 
how far off ST damage is bleed build now with blindside over hybvrid, is it far behind?
1.3%
With no kb
They gave you an option if you wanted to change the theme
it looks so......blurry? compared to before
it still looks ass
That being said bleed build does hit shiv more aggressively
19 too many
Okay ill try theirs tyvm
I'm doing something wrong with tea and I don't know what, but it means I only have 1 charge for my DM window which feels wrong
Yeah I’ve seen it, it’s just weird idk
guys which talents u guys prefer for 11-12 keys?
hybrid
the 2nd kingsbane on stix feels bad!!
Well it’s a 1 min cd so it’ll be up again yeah
ok so its not just me
Did bleed in a floodgate today and it was fine
can u send me hybrid talent code wysoko?
sis was tryna reapply running away
i thought something felt off
You get 1 charge back for every kb
but not 2 charges - 1 for each shiv
for example 2nd boss, cant get to it as got to run
yeah I'm getting energy starved during KB windows
anywhere other than top on 11 bleed, 12+ hybrid
Well of course not how would that work
https://wago.io/t6bI_B9wi is this the correct whispyr one?
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
I can. Give me one moment. But it's should be on wowhead tho
Yes
I threw it all in the harbor
Fuck them br*ts
CMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMzMzMzwMAAAAAAAzmxsNDAAAAAAttMzMYmxYmZWmlxYwMzMzgZmZzyYGgNzyADYJYZYCMsMA
sanguine is what I do
Can you check private mesasge
aint no way you're dropping SB as bleed
something like that
Doomblade/bone spike for kb/wire
The guide gives you like 4 options
Yeha that’s what I did
That is not one of them
didnt read it, just had to drop it earlier today for a dfc and freeballed
do not reccomend
you NEVER press poison knife
Yeh dropping a talent that gives you like 8% overall damage directly from bleeds on a build that does nothing but bleeds
Probably not great
I can see that
even in the most optimal scenario, you'd rather not
sniping tags on low hp rares in open world, PK bis!
yeah being starved in KB windows just feels horrible
faster to shadowstep cause it doesnt have travel time
MA was definitely a better option, just didn't know the crit contribution off the top of my head
okay
the knife doesnt have to hit for the hit to register for tags
my dumb ass was kinda hoping you get 1 charge back a minute later from each one used
ty beast
is it not better then to manual cast tea and not do one for the dry shiv?
to have 2 up for cd windows
look at his ass
Yeah that’s why when we play 2 vanish charges they’re both up 2 min later right
that would be so insanely strong holy
Dam. He’s just like me
this bitch is also ugly!
No
Touch it
you get one back when you macro because then its always up for kingsbane, sims have it macro'd so you should too 🙂
!tea
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
it does feel weirdly different doesn't it?
its the same shit every time
like it seems like not that much changed, but it feels omega diffy
some UX/UI designer has to make a new dogshit UI every year to justify his bloated salary by making the UI worse every single time
nah its just
make the problem to fix it later
new borders, smaller font on things where it shouldnt be smaller, bigger font where it shouldnt have been
like
why is the "XYZ" is typing text
even smaller
this is fucking tiny
yeah
but then you have a massive (not aligned either) profile bar
the top bar is quite thick now too isn't it
great alginment there mr. ui designer




