assassination

[viscid spear]

I like watching my yellow bar go up and down

[dapper cradle]

but it has nothing to do with energy

[subtle tundra]

oxi im still hungryyyyyyyyyy

[dapper cradle]

they just tuned numbers

[subtle tundra]

im so hungryyyyyyyy

oxiiiiiiiiiiiiii

[gusty mirage]

acting like it's "pretty much the same" is kinda silly

[subtle tundra]

i CANTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

OXIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

[gusty mirage]

varas

[royal lantern]

its sub afterall, dance is supposed to be your active and dmg window afterall

[subtle tundra]

IIIIIIIIIIIMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM HUNGYYY

[gusty mirage]

I've been fasting from sun rise to sun set for 26 days

I don't give a fuck

cry me a river

[subtle tundra]

i havent had anything to eat in

[gusty mirage]

[subtle tundra]

30 minutes

im so huuuuuuuuuungyyyyyyyy

[royal lantern]

what? ofc it does

if you give assa/sub more energy, they will do less dmg inside their burst windows

their burst windows give infinite energy for a reason

its really simple, if a spec is using abilitys more often, they have less impact

[dapper cradle]

[royal lantern]

explain me how thats wrong

[real pike]

would we use junkmaestros mega magnet with a more traditional on-use trink, or as our on-use trink with a passive one?

[iron vapor]

No dude, they won't do less during the burst windows, they'll just do more outside the burst windows

[royal lantern]

what

so outlaw is always doing insane dmg then?

[golden loom]

well if u randomly game assa and sub more energy right now ofc they would do more damage

[real pike]

think Tyran is assuming the change would come with tuning

[subtle tundra]

it doesnt matter since you want to use it AFTER your cooldowns

[dapper cradle]

this makes no sense. by your logic, if you give more of an already infinite resource, nothing will happen

they won't do less damage

it'll just break even

[royal lantern]

yes, and thats why they wont do it

they would tune other stuff down

[golden loom]

ye

[iron vapor]

So relatively the burst would be less significant, but if you can do X damage in 16 seconds with infinite energy then that's what you can do.

[subtle tundra]

so you want to also have a on use trinket(hoc or priory)

[royal lantern]

like, if they would reduce, lets say mutilate energy cost, they would also reduce mutilate dmg and probably envenom dmg aswell

[subtle tundra]

fuck i helped an outlaw

someone beat my ass

[royal lantern]

beating it, but without the B

[gusty mirage]

????

y'all good?

[royal lantern]

want some varas ass aswell?

can share

[red schooner]

no

[gusty mirage]

no thanks

[golden loom]

goo goo gally to go

if u get mechanic on stix, just drive it into him and keep pumping I guess

[subtle tundra]

ramadan got you so good you dont even wanna eat my ass

that sucks man

[royal lantern]

dedication

oxi is built diff

[kindred cobalt]

What build?

[real pike]

combat*

bun outlaw

[iron vapor]

Oh sorry I see what you're saying now, yeah if they made mutilate/envenom cheaper but less damaging it would kill burst windows entirely

[gusty mirage]

combat daggers my love

[grim jay]

And it would suck

[iron vapor]

Yeah that would utterly suck.

Be like going back to vanilla combat daggers.

Struggling to maintain S&D and gambling on an eviscerate

[static glacier]

bleed

[warm flint]

house of cards>signet for assa?

[royal lantern]

equal

[royal lantern]

also a thing many people seem to kinda forget

mutilate actually hits kinda hard for a generic filler skill

espacialy now with the buff+vv

[static glacier]

lowkey I think signet might be slightly better if ur in a full group of signets

[gusty mirage]

signet also better if other people in group have it

[static glacier]

who pop at 2m

[spice spire]

Got my signet last night

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-about-to-bust-king-of-the-hill-toilet-bathroom-open-door-gif-16387496

[gusty mirage]

yeah but how many bitches?

lmao I got my signet before you?

[warm flint]

prolly true but not sure if i should take it from the vault, since i have already hero cards and can pick set chest lol

[spice spire]

Still rocking the goose egg

[spice spire]

Yeah I had hoc tuah first tho

So like

Not major loss

Myth seaforium too 🙂

[spice surge]

Not the hoc tuah

[gusty mirage]

sheesh

[tawdry mica]

I kinda wanna try bleed build too but I'm afraid I'd do shit

[gusty mirage]

hi @spice surge

[spice surge]

Hello

[gusty mirage]

you're gonna do great

I believe in you

[spice spire]

Shuffle that thing

[tawdry mica]

🥹

Alright that's what I needed to read

[spice spire]

No reason to be scared it’s even easier

ESP in GIGA pull dungeons like priory

[static glacier]

go for it, id argue its better overall dps than hybrid for 10s

[gusty mirage]

Espanol?

[royal lantern]

that effect is less then a socket

[gusty mirage]

eleem I got the fancy ring from normal raid

[spice spire]

Tienes una boca bonita

[spice surge]

I bought some fresh haddock ima cook for dinner with some dill

[royal lantern]

no french

[gusty mirage]

so it's better, got it

[tawdry mica]

That's the thing, my group and I are starting to get into +10's so I guess it's time, ty ty

[gusty mirage]

I aint pugging heroic

[spice spire]

They’re both romantic languages you meatball

[gusty mirage]

and @ember mural hasn't offered to let me raid with him yet

[spice spire]

????

[gusty mirage]

this is an A and B conversation Reid

fuck you

[spice spire]

Mf acts like I’m also not raiding in that rat group

?

[grim jay]

Got my signet 3rd day of season 2

[gusty mirage]

did you invite me?

[grim jay]

Get on my level

[gusty mirage]

I got my signet my one and only priory bozo

[grim jay]

Was my 2nd priory

[gusty mirage]

3rd day DN

[grim jay]

2nd priory 3rd day

[spice spire]

I won my roll off my guild’s hunter in a roll off 🙂

[grim jay]

Whatcha gonna do now

[gusty mirage]

I skipped straight to hero track bozo

and I got the jastor diamond

[grim jay]

Same

[grim jay]

I got hoc and pacemaker aswell

[gusty mirage]

I got a candle

and I won't share it with you

[gusty mirage]

wtf

that's toxic

[trim oak]

mmmh hey guys I'm simming haste as main stat for my m+ build, it feels weird. There's some sort of minimum treshold to have? I'm at 6% rn

[grim jay]

The weirdest thing is you simming statweights

[golden loom]

statweights should not be used

[trim oak]

https://tenor.com/view/owl-surprise-gif-25024558

[grim jay]

Need to somehow cancel out a bit of our pure love, so the world can handle it better

[gusty mirage]

[grim jay]

[trim oak]

my life is a lie

[viscid spear]

Mythic track?

[red schooner]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[gusty mirage]

nah your life isn't a lie, it's just top gear factors in stat weights so you don't have to use brain anymore

[dense cove]

My sims are actually ok with me being a little heavy on versatility. I’m surprised

[agile nest]

Hey guys, it’s my first patch as rogue and I still trying to get my gameplay polished so I have a few questions (I’m playing assa)

If I’m in a fight with a big pack, should I garrote/rupture all targets or at least x number of targets? I know there’s the rupture buff to agi so my main doubt is about garrote

I saw in a assa vod a weak aura that tracked how many monsters had garrote/rupture on multiple targets, for example: it would show 6/7 garrote, 5/7 rupture, how do I set up that?

In kingsbane window, should I shiv with 8 seconds left of kingsbane, should I use tea at the same time too?

[gusty mirage]

plus stat weights can shift drastically even changing minor shit like enchants/gems, so it's a nightmare to try to keep track of it

[golden loom]

like it even tells you when you run a statweight 😄

[spice spire]

Nah hero.
Myth neck 🙂

[gusty mirage]

seeing quake smile is so darn heart warming

[gritty laurel]

don't bother spreading garrote outside of IC and you just need to maintain 5 ruptures for scent and energy gain. better to spend the globals on spattering envenoms and upkeeping CT

[gusty mirage]

I hope you get a myth signet in your vault next week

[iron vapor]

You want 5 rupture and garotte out, any more is a waste of combo points

[spice spire]

I hope it’s just usable. I’ll take an L for the homies to get a sick vault

[gusty mirage]

btw sick change by blizzard

removing the KSM/AOTC token and turning it into a fucking catalyst charge

[agile nest]

Nice, ty @gritty laurel and @iron vapor

[royal lantern]

well the Draw back, you have to look at stats for priory

and thats cringe

[gusty mirage]

jokes on you tryan, I can't read

[royal lantern]

BASED

[grim jay]

Kinda rewarding to the people that farm more, but somehow needless

[stuck jacinth]

anyone using Junkmaster trinket since patch?

[gusty mirage]

yeah now I have a charge with nothing to spend it on, super cool

I've looted necks and rings exclusively from all my dungeons

[royal lantern]

"people had trouble finding the token vendor" was their reasoning btw

then dont place them i unmarked spots in random locations???????

[gritty laurel]

is junkmaster trinket the one that for some reason interacts with lingering darkness?

[tawdry mica]

I am

[iron vapor]

Indiscriminate carnage should do most of the work for you, once you're past the first 38 seconds for the ruptures you can vanish and use IC again to refresh, or just manually apply them

[grim jay]

Ye idk why they dont just put them near the upgrade guys

[stuck jacinth]

hows it feel? basically just using during end of lingering darkness right regardless of stacks?

[storm karma]

i have a question about haste. is there a soft cap or a certain % we should have? i keep simming for best gems, and the best ends up with some version of haste. but i have 8% haste already and i play mainly m+. should i listen to the sim or go religiously with mast/crit?

[iron vapor]

I manually do it with a mouse over macro, save the vanish for other stuff

[spice surge]

Yes (everything that does nature works with lingering darkness)

[gusty mirage]

but then they left the curio vendors in

lmao

l m a o

[gritty laurel]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[royal lantern]

thats such a "they ignore it until it becomes relevant" bug, ngl

[gusty mirage]

what

[grim jay]

Next week when people traded a kidney for magnet

[gusty mirage]

blizzard's never ignored a bug ever

[ember mural]

?

[gusty mirage]

[spice surge]

Well they ignored it all last tier too

[viscid spear]

I got a Hero Signet in my first vault, haven't had luck since

[spice surge]

Despite sub using mandate with it

[tawdry mica]

Yeah with lingering darkness it feels really decent, I try to save some stacks if I know a big pull is coming soon but definitely worth the use

[spice surge]

[tawdry mica]

it bonks really hard sometimes

[gusty mirage]

good that's what you get you dirty fucking mage

[royal lantern]

eh, it will be ignored until either sub or assa is doing some insane cheese stuff with the dmg amp on a trinket that makes them top dps

rn its not "problematic" enough

[grim jay]

Brother thats wrong

[gusty mirage]

only beneficial bugs get bugfixed

[spice surge]

Or until they rework deathstalker to not be stinky

[gusty mirage]

we have a better chance of me returning to progression raiding

[grim jay]

They will first nerf the specs, then kill the interaction without buffing them back up

[iron vapor]

Woah woah woah, hold on, the magnet interacts with lingering darkness?!

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

Vaults have all be okay. Belt and neck aren’t exactly sexy (though neck this season kind of is) but seaforium myth was 🔥

But that’s my luck for the season

[red schooner]

picked an item from the vault i can't use til next week

[spice surge]

Odds are grim indeed

[red schooner]

sad times but next week, another myth track tier piece

[royal lantern]

be realistic

[red schooner]

so, eh

[grim jay]

That just means you kinda got double vault next week

[gusty mirage]

you never know

I'm getting the itch

[red schooner]

gonna be huge

just waiting on the cata charge

[gusty mirage]

but idk if I can return to like WR 500-1000 raiding again

[spice spire]

Wedding planning was the true prog

[red schooner]

join a rfwl guild and revel in the chaos

and also have an aneurysm

[gusty mirage]

just hard to go back to that WR after raiding in the top 200 ya know

[spice spire]

Ye

[gusty mirage]

idk if I can prog a raid for 4 months

I'll lose my mind

[red schooner]

going straight from queen prog into new season was rough

i wanted a break man

i want the chill time

[gusty mirage]

be done in like 2 months and then play other games

[coral ibex]

why i benched myself mid queen prog

[gusty mirage]

get geared to the teeth by week 7 and just go play games that are actually fun

[coral ibex]

didn't want to clear and be back to doing new season chores the next day

[red schooner]

we didn't even get queen down

rip

[tropic jewel]

do we still want like 0 haste ?

[coral ibex]

my guild did, i finished 7/8

[red schooner]

we want what the sim number says is better

[coral ibex]

couldn't bring myself to sit through wipes on the pull

[gusty mirage]

but this season is when you'll get it

you'll finish this season strong

I believe

[spice spire]

We’ve never wanted 0 haste - we want some number relevant to the rest of our stats

[red schooner]

i mean maybe we've not even started mythic yet proper

apart from a vexie kill

but vexie is free

[spice spire]

Until I hit the cinderbrew neck my sim craves it

[gusty mirage]

I mean if you're killing the first few in mythic to help gear faster

should be fine

also this raid feels so ass

or maybe it's just the normal experience I had

[red schooner]

idk raid team has been in mega flux, half the team left in christmas last year.

[gusty mirage]

but it's actually so gimmicky it's ass

[iron vapor]

Whaaaaa?! This is the best raid we've had in ages

[red schooner]

That's when I got dragged in as a social. Who had never mythic raided before. To prog princess and court.

[gusty mirage]

I dropped one last night and gave it away, how does that make you feel

[red schooner]

Because what even is life.

[soft shale]

dont worry you lose nothing breaking your teeth on armed bandit

[gusty mirage]

oh god

[soft shale]

is peak gaming rn

[spice spire]

Mine is myth so I don’t 🙂

[gusty mirage]

from social to mythic court

[soft shale]

for 90% of guilds that even killed the stinky man and the engineer

[gusty mirage]

why do they fucking hate you

[red schooner]

THEY PUT ME ON WEBS AS WELL

LIKE

PLS

[gusty mirage]

[soft shale]

da fuq

did you hit their wives or something

to make you do that

[red schooner]

apparently after princess i was one of the ones trusted to do mechanics

i was also a circle pop and portal on queen

[gusty mirage]

great way to make people wanna stay "hey I know you haven't raided mythic with us, come along it'll be fun!"

[red schooner]

i don';t know how this happened

[gusty mirage]

enters raid into the most miserable boss and give you the most miserable job

[red schooner]

ye i clearly upset someone

[gusty mirage]

I watched whispyr die on the inside progging that boss

[red schooner]

tbf i didn't mind the boss

i did mind the blue team wall

where fuckers just wouldn't move

[subtle tundra]

meow meow

[red schooner]

like i joked that the kill would be the pull where blue team weren't ever pulled in first

and lo and behold

[subtle tundra]

you know whats miserable, having to do coins on mythic one armed bandit

[red schooner]

our kill was when blue team were never pulled in first

[subtle tundra]

i feel bad for the hunter

[royal lantern]

2day guilds yo

[gusty mirage]

is it worse than mythic tindral pre-nerfs?

because uh

that was the most interesting 300 pulls of my life

[royal lantern]

insane class stacking

[subtle tundra]

i mean the 1 job

one person has

the hunter

[royal lantern]

if you dont have 2-3 shadowpriest and afflocks, you dont even need to try one armed

[subtle tundra]

who has to go around the room throwing coins

[gusty mirage]

terrific

[subtle tundra]

oh yeah

you look at comps

[gusty mirage]

tindral ruined me

[subtle tundra]

4 shadow priests

and 2 aff locks

easy boss

you miss 2 shadow priests, impossible boss

[royal lantern]

turns out, a fight with a tight dps check and near 100% uptime spread cleave

is kinda shit

[subtle tundra]

and then on mugzee

[royal lantern]

unless you stack shadowpriests and afflocks

[subtle tundra]

if you didnt have until today like 5 monks

the fight was unprogressable

funky, am i right

[gusty mirage]

[nova aspen]

can my guild kill stix with 0 spriests and 0 boomies

[coral ibex]

yes

[nova aspen]

[static glacier]

bleed is even better at lower keys

[distant helm]

Goated boss

[viscid spear]

It was three raid tiers

[royal lantern]

tindral was fun on reclears

but prog, holy shit

[gusty mirage]

man it's been over a year since I've progged a mythic boss

time sure flies

[gusty mirage]

my favorite was when they changed the feather spawns after our first 60 pulls

twice

and wowhead tried playing it off as a nerf lmao

like this nerfs nothing

[subtle tundra]

im quitting after this tier

[gusty mirage]

full time poe gamer?

[grim jay]

Your progress

Gotcha

[subtle tundra]

nah i cant play poe too much, gets boring

big time real life gamer

[static glacier]

time to quit this real life game, it's impacting ur rio

[grim jay]

Currently on it, but shit is tough sometimes

[iron vapor]

Real life? Overrated.

[grim jay]

Cant just backstab people that hurt you

[iron vapor]

Can't even stab the trash mobs.

[gusty mirage]

yes you can

???

how do you think people like me have a job?

[royal lantern]

shave your head

less time in the shower = more time you can spend complaining about m+

[grim jay]

Based

Let me support you real quick

[static glacier]

already did it twice, kinda attatched to hair atm tho, seems like ill do it next month

[grim jay]

If you shave your head you cant be balding

So theres that

[royal lantern]

aug main confirmed

get out

[static glacier]

got some bad news, I am both balding and have shaved my head in the past

[grim jay]

Brother everyone is balding at a certain age

Nothing bad about it

Just embrace it

[static glacier]

ive accepted it for a few years now, feel bad for my kids ngl

tiktok gen really can't handle balding I think

[grim jay]

Funfact

Feel bad for your grandkids

Because you get the genes for that from your grandpa

Most often the side of the mother tho

And the Social Media stuff will only get worse

[tawdry mica]

Sudden demise, fine I'll use it today I'm excited

[cursive smelt]

the assa passes in front of the sub? with the up present?

[iron vapor]

At the very top end, looks that way.

[grim jay]

Depends on where

And then it depends on multiple factors

[obtuse ruin]

can anyone help me with some plater stuff? trying to make the nameplate with deathmark pink color or bigger

[woven crypt]

When someone has time could they review my logs and offer some feedback? I did check wowanalyzer and saw I missed some vanish and shiv casts, I’m still setting WAs up and adjusting to help me track better (also figured out an input lag issue that was a stupid mistake on my part). I appreciate any feedback!

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/akc2Zf1V4PMpy6FJ - Xealth

[grim jay]

@spice spire

[quartz trellis]

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[humble verge]

well damn

i think the buff really worked

[gusty mirage]

Zon Log Review

[midnight mist]

nice thread nooob

[humble verge]

zac in my chat

smh

[coral ibex]

zacro in the assa chat what’s he gonna do

[gusty mirage]

Fuck you zac

[high jetty]

Quazi posted a video about this a couple days ago

[toxic burrow]

On H Stix Bunkjunker I got chosen for the balls 4 times in a row in a single fight. My team was raiding while I played Katamari Damacy.

[grim jay]

Imagine

Just run it into the boss

[craggy ruin]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[midnight mist]

??????

[humble verge]

what he said

[toxic burrow]

I was tempted to. But I sucked it up and tried to do my duty, only to see folks with maxed out balls still stealing the garbage piles from the rest of us. Fuck it, I'm sending that ball straight into the boss.

[brave comet]

according to sims this is the best embellishment for me

[midnight mist]

respect your elders

[grim jay]

Zuck you fac

[humble verge]

bro ure like 5

[midnight mist]

i was playing assa you werent even born

[humble verge]

im older than the game

[grim jay]

Most people are

[humble verge]

yeah

[grim jay]

Its wow

[humble verge]

zac is just not gaming in his head

[grim jay]

Hes an outlaw enjoyer

What do you expect

[humble verge]

idk enjoyer

more like sufferer

fr fr

[final silo]

I remember the old echoing reprimand to have certain combo points to act as if they gave 7, but how does the new echoing reprimand work? do you still consume a specific combo point?

[stark umbra]

nop, u just send it

[humble verge]

would send it atleast on 4

[grim jay]

You just do the same rules as always

[stark umbra]

ye, its just extra dmg most of the times 🙂

[rotund oak]

[tranquil stirrup]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[grim jay]

You are older than the devs who created wow back then

[kind ravine]

Quick question about AoE rotation. When dealing with multiple mobs (e.g., in M+ packs), should I strictly maintain focus on a single primary target, relying on Crimson Tempest to spread Rupture/poisons? Or is it more effective DPS in certain situations (like maybe 3-4 targets?) to manually tab-target and apply Garrote/Rupture to multiple enemies before focusing back on the main target? I know funneling damage into one target has benefits, but I'm wondering if always sticking to one target (except for interrupts) is the absolute rule, or if manual multi-dotting has its place for maximizing overall pack damage. Thanks!

[grim jay]

Crimson tempest doesnt spread anything

You mean IC

[nova kelp]

mate, imagine if CT spread your gar/rup

[grim jay]

!carnage

[prisma monolith]

Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

• The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
• You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

[nova kelp]

like no joke, that's kind of a cook

[kind ravine]

ohh, ty!!!

[kind ravine]

ohh, i'm so noob, this is gold

[nova kelp]

it exists because the question was and still is common

it's not noob, it's an effort to learn

[livid marlin]

Hey, is it okay if I craft a second dagger 675?

[nova kelp]

it's not BAD, but it's likely not the best option - your offhand dagger is essentially a stat stick, I wouldn't worry too much about it at all

[real pike]

I'm actually about to lose my fucking mind over running Floodgate for this trinket

[lethal heart]

upgrade your current dagger to 675 and craft sth else with heroic crest

is probably best bet

[real pike]

and no I don't want to hear about how you got a mythic one in your vault

[lethal heart]

without simming tho

you should sim ofc

[livid marlin]

ah okay ty

[silver escarp]

Hmmmm, soo it can be worth playing the junk trinket with signet? to use it in lingering darkness?

[iron vapor]

You sure?

[real pike]

yes I'm su re

[iron vapor]

Ok, just checking

[nova kelp]

without simming I can GUARANTEE YOU upgrading your main hand to 275 will be a WAY bigger upgrade than upgrading your offhand

like

[real pike]

[nova kelp]

I would bet all my mounts on it

[real pike]

I mean he could use the new one in his MH

[nova kelp]

you SHOULD still sim though, but 100000000000000% it is

[iron vapor]

Agree, upgrading the main hand is the single biggest DPS increase you can get

[real pike]

but yea just upgrade MH and then craft something else

[iron vapor]

Always. In all cases.

Without exception.

Except sometimes when it's not, but this time, it's it.

[livid marlin]

How do I sim with a craft I havent craftet yet ? 🙂

[spice spire]

[real pike]

gear compare

[spice spire]

You can droptomizer or gear compare.

[livid marlin]

ty ty

New to the simming, so thankyou ❤️

[spice spire]

CaVeat droptimizer with “it doesn’t check for embellishments”

All good that’s what we’re here for

[nova kelp]

you can also just add the item

[spice spire]

Keep asking questions

[nova kelp]

in this bit on a top gear

you can add the item to your inventory

and sim it

[livid marlin]

thankyou, really enjoying rogue

[iron vapor]

You'll grow out of that

[nova kelp]

HAHAHAAHA true

[hardy rapids]

Assa is an addicting spec

[livid marlin]

A class i've never played, obssessed with stabbing, fits me being a scouser really well xD

[nova kelp]

eventually a day will roll around, and there will be patch notes

[nova kelp]

all the classes are there, you scroll down

you see mage

you see priest

[hardy rapids]

I can’t play any other class anymore. played a hunter for 1 season and switched back to rogue within a month. Everything else feels so slow

[nova kelp]

and then.... pvp changes

no rogue

[livid marlin]

When I sim, do I spec into Mythic or ST?

[nova kelp]

and you'll go 😦

[livid marlin]

I did a little pvp as rogue last night, was fun, but challenging with no pvp gear xD

[iron vapor]

Go ST if you're just comparing the output of a weapon against another

[livid marlin]

xD

[nova kelp]

for just a baseline, the best is to just sim single target GENERALLY

sim a dslice or an aoe situation if you're specifically trying to maximise THAT

but as a general baseline just do st

[silver escarp]

Hectic add cleave isn't good a sim for that raid?

There's a lot of fights with adds in undermine

[nova kelp]

i mean it can be sure

but like

on most of the fights, even if you're doing cleave, you're likely doing it through spatter

so your baseline rotation is just st with spatter on

[iron vapor]

Yeah, but if you're just looking for 'does this dagger or that dagger do more' then ST is an easier sim to run

[silver escarp]

Just stik with CT

stix*

[silver escarp]

I was talking generaly

[nova kelp]

I'm not sure stix is CT worthy is it?>

[iron vapor]

It'll give you a more noticeable difference too since spatter etc aren't fudging the numbers

Oh fair enough

[silver escarp]

I had a decent use of it in HM at least

(Yes i'm only on hm on him sry i'm a noob)

[nova kelp]

ehhhhhh

I'd just play spatter on it

I don't think there's any fight in the raid that warrants ct

I mean, hey, if you find it fun go for it

[silver escarp]

I usually take the first assa in warcraft logs

But i see your point

[nova kelp]

id be surprise if peeps are using CT

[silver escarp]

i'll see without it

[nova kelp]

or more aptly

if they are... it's because they're deliberately hitting the bombs to make more pad lol

[silver escarp]

Oh not anymore

just checked

2 weeks ago they were

Even last week

iirc

[nova kelp]

last time I rocked ct in raid was on brood, but that was because of singular focus more than anything else lol

[silver escarp]

Fair xD

[fresh kelp]

Pad… on the bombs?

[nova kelp]

and even then it's becaues my raid group was dogshit at not making a billion parasites

[fresh kelp]

those things gotta die

[nova kelp]

not hitting the bombs out of piles

hitting the bombs with balls to make more targets

as in, doing a mistake, and reaping a benefit

the alternative being having basically no adds because balls clean eerything up

[silver escarp]

Perfect fight

[nova kelp]

because you like big balls that clean everything up?

[royal lantern]

i like big balls

:3

[nova kelp]

uwu

sigh...

I need to get a pacemaker

[silver escarp]

I'd like your house of card or your rezan. I have the trash trinket from 1 (or 2?) boss

Ah no it's the one from Mugzee

[livid marlin]

i think its neck too craft

[silver escarp]

but in Normal

[livid marlin]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wjKxmgStBrEcqYFnT9jwgx

5th one down is where it begins, the above are with all crafts which i cant do xD

[grim jay]

Thats not bad

And eye sucky sucky

[silver escarp]

would be better than a trinket in champ

[nova kelp]

neck craft is a common one to show up high for people, I think people often eschew it because "rheeeeeee it's not in our bis list"

but like

man

there's 700 combinations that are like within 0.1-0.01 % difference

it's not that big of a deal

[livid marlin]

Shall I go with neck? 🙂

[iron vapor]

I mean... 'BIS' hero track < 675 crafted neck

[nova kelp]

if it fills a solid gap in your current gear set, and there are not a lot of necks that are readily available to you, then it's a good craft

[royal lantern]

35y olds with a crippling monster addiction be like:

[grim jay]

Glad you made it 35

[nova kelp]

your best craft early will alwasy be a maxed out dagger, after that, fill gaps

well... your best craft early MIGHT be a maxed out one hander, but then this is the wrong channel - and people will throw sticks at you

[iron vapor]

BIS is a construct, kinda like time.

[nova kelp]

true, the majestic lion cares not for BIS

[warm vortex]

Tried to pug a 12 for the first time this season

Lmao

[craggy ruin]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[warm vortex]

Tank left after wiping to third DFC

[nova kelp]

I really need to push higher keys

I need to work on the mount

serious question though, why'd you shoot for a bm vacation? why not a windwalker vacay?

a firemage vacay

[warm vortex]

Ranged
Can do a shit ton of mechanics in raid which helps with a casual guid
Easy to play
Rlly like the class fantasy
when i switched we needed a hunt in raid

[nova kelp]

fair enough, these are all good reasons

[warm vortex]

• this season looks like a clusterfuck for melee

[nova kelp]

your raid still has a rogue?

[warm vortex]

Ye

Woudln't swap otherwise

[nova kelp]

fuck me, there's like 12 of us in the game and you got 2 of them

nice

[warm vortex]

Kek

[nova kelp]

I keep thinking "I would switch to ww if I could"

but the truth is... the moment we got some actual patch notes I'd be itching to play rogue anyway

[warm vortex]

Eh tbf with all 3 rogues specs you can do high level content shit

So it isn't that big of a deal tb

[nova kelp]

I think I'm just a rogue now, it is what it is

I played hunter from launch through to the day they removed traps and I got so mad I never went back

my rogue as an alt, and one day I stepped into nighthold and did my first death from above

never looked back

[warm vortex]

Lmao

[nova kelp]

I hit that button, and I swear, time slowed down, my rogue said out loud
omae wa mou shindeiru

like that actually happened

IRL

I might have been low on meds

[versed gulch]

I know people always dunk on BM(myself included as a former Marks main), but that spec feels the best it has in a long while. Especially in M+.

[spice spire]

Maybe for you but I’m different

[nova kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/steady-steadynft-built-different-gif-2993610573868513937

[haughty flicker]

idk, doing rookery on boomkin compared to rogue is like

night and day lmao

i just fucking chill the whole time

[nova kelp]

I feel llike that on ww

[versed gulch]

That was going to be my comment too. That second boss is like I'll have some area denial with a side of area denial.

[nova kelp]

like

you just push buttons

and stuff happens

right away

[fleet pagoda]

trash in rookery got nerfed at least

the succ that is

[haughty flicker]

i mean rookery isnt hard, its just fucking annoying as hell

as melee

[royal lantern]

that sums up many things tbh

[nova kelp]

the 2nd boss in rook, and the mech garden dude in workshop etc

these bosses that are like

[versed gulch]

Give me back my plus 3 melee range talent.

[nova kelp]

oh you think you're in now?

bro

you gota run for 16 mechanics in a row

starting..... now

[royal lantern]

ok, ret gets it so they have 43yards now

[red schooner]

2nd boss is horrible as melee

[nova kelp]

sigh... our monkey arms were so glorious

[red schooner]

i'd like a little bit of uptime

please

[nova kelp]

gods my arms were long

[red schooner]

just let me hit the boss a tiny bit

[wild horizon]

I have 18k Mastery and 11k Crit and sim still make me stack more mastery any idea why ?

[red schooner]

because we trust in the robot

[spice spire]

We like mastery

[versed gulch]

They can have it too. 5 to 8 is a much better gain than 40 to 43. I'll be generous and even give them 5 extra range if we get the 3.

[nova kelp]

this time last expac. my arms were embiggened, I could touch everything

[wild horizon]

Allright, thanks

[shell crater]

Is there actually a cap limit of mastery that I want? I think I have like 26k with potion…. Is that too much?

[viscid spear]

I hate the female Earthen mobs before the last boss, they irk me so

[versed gulch]

No cap. It's just worth a little less point for point. Trust the robot. Just because it's worth less against itself doesn't mean it's still not the best stat.

[shell crater]

Gotcha

[south token]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[nova kelp]

at some point your sim will be like "hey woah, chill, get some crit, touch some grass"

[shell crater]

😂

I really need to get into the habit of simming more

[nova kelp]

I'm trying to reflect on the pain, I feel like I KNOW what this is, but I don't remember

idk if this is a hot take
but this VV build - I kinda vibe with it
was having to vanish hard? no
was it annoying to have to do? also no
but is it cool to just have a flow chart like "did you press mut recently?
yes? - press it again
no? - try pressing it 🙂
yes, yes it is cool, and big chillin

[balmy condor]

0.5-0.7%

[viscid spear]

The priest mobs that do the four balls attack

[nova kelp]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH yeah these things are... balls

https://tenor.com/view/dr-cox-giggling-happy-victory-smile-gif-7858617

[viscid spear]

Especially the last pull because you have the rock monster add doing the floor hazards too

[spice spire]

Stand underneath the mobs and you never get hit by the circles

[nova kelp]

ok actually though, what IS the real priority when there's the rock dudes and the ball girls?

[spice spire]

Literally just stand center

[nova kelp]

wait, actually?

[spice spire]

Yes

[nova kelp]

I'm trying this next time

if I die

[spice spire]

And rock dudes have more health so usually I focus

[nova kelp]

I'm blaming you

I won't do anything about it

but like

I'll say something

[spice spire]

As long as you stand in the center, you won’t die.

[balmy condor]

You need rock dudes to focus? Say less

[spice spire]

Literally gluck the add

[spice spire]

[iron vapor]

Ye, bosh the rock and hope caustic spatter does enough

[nova kelp]

but then you gota avoid taking balls to the face

yknow

sometimes its better to start at the balls, and move to the big rock thing

[woven ruin]

You had me at "start at the balls"...

[thick juniper]

I love being in the middle of balls

[real pike]

are we feeling eye of kezan > seaforium pacemaker for mythic prog?

[severe meadow]

From slow mode to talking about balls, I love it here

[real pike]

the difference in 5 min sim and 7 min sim is wild

[nova kelp]

you mean like a big shift towards eye?

[real pike]

yeah

[nova kelp]

see the real trick, is you do what ever you can to look like the biggest dick possible in all the first 2 minutes of each attempt early on

[real pike]

5 min

[nova kelp]

that way everyone already KNOWS you're a monster

[real pike]

6 min

[viscid spear]

Yeah, I'm leery too

[nova kelp]

and even if you FINISH the fight low...

y'know

they don't notice that

[real pike]

7 min

basically I need someone to validate that eye is fine/better so I can stop grinding floodgates

[nova kelp]

here's the thing, the pacemaker makes doing keys feel a lot better

[lyric nebula]

yo guys, is it worth craftig 675 neck atm? its sims as a 2.5% upgrade from the 658 version, what do u reccon?

[real pike]

my focus is 100% raiding

I do my 8 10s for gear...for raiding

[nova kelp]

that's my 5 min

[fallow canopy]

if you are on mythic prog rn then sure eye is pretty good for the later parts of the raid

[nova kelp]

using eye

[real pike]

that's interesting

wonder why ours are so different

your gear is obviously a lot better than mine 😄

[nova kelp]

maybe because I have a lot of base crit?

[real pike]

yea we're on stix atm

[real pike]

yea unsure

just happy I have something

[nova kelp]

I'm resting steady right now at 28%

[fallow canopy]

bandit is a 7 min fight, sprocket 6 min and mug and gally are longer

[real pike]

that is huge

very happy

[nova kelp]

we're working on sprocket first instead of stix

[real pike]

just checked, I have 23%

and 60 mast lol

[nova kelp]

yeah I'm at 59% mastery

[real pike]

64 now with eye

doing my best to bring back the DM burst glory days

[nova kelp]

so that's probably why pacemaker is a bit less for me

I picked up the faded champ ring off the rip

so like

just had loads of crit

[real pike]

ah nice

I'm a pedant, I sim every combination of anything

new ring? I sim all 4 enchants

then each gem one by one

every option

all manually on gear compare

super efficient

[nova kelp]

good god

ima be totally honest

I just buy 4 gems

I randomly pick them by colour alone

then I put enchants on my rings

eenie meenie moe style

I actually wish I was kidding

[real pike]

it's literally not even worth it

[nova kelp]

the stat weighting thing though is like, it becomes all consuming
you spend more time in sims than playing the game

just slot that shit, and move on

[real pike]

I quite enjoy the process icl

like a little in browser minigame

[nova kelp]

yeah see that list is like

that's death to me

[sand sigil]

random q:

ur fighting 7 mob pull m+ hybrid bleed build whatever. every single mob has rupture and garrote. u vanish IC and garrote and rupture. the target u garroted and ruptured obv gets a refresh, does the other 2 go to 2 nearest given that they already all have bleeds? or lowest remaining duration mob gets refreshed if its close but not closest

[golden loom]

isnt IC kinda fully giga random outside of prioing non-bleeding fellas

[coral ibex]

pretty sure yea

[real pike]

random

[sand sigil]

ok

[coral ibex]

its just random proximity if everything is bleeding already

[sand sigil]

follow up Q

better first gcd from stealth 3x garrote or 1x ambush

surely one sims 0.01% more than the other

[coral ibex]

garrote if you have DN

[quartz trellis]

Ambush is for the mark iirc

[nova kelp]

DN is the real kicker there

[coral ibex]

faster acceleration into mark consumption

[golden loom]

feels like having mark out as first GCD should be best always, DN lovers might disagree

[coral ibex]

since if you ambush with DN you apply 3 marks but you still have to consume DN to start consuming the marks

[real pike]

I'm sure this is wrong

you go down to 2 stacks on the first consume

no?

[coral ibex]

i'm 100% sure that bug still occurs

[golden loom]

you cant cosume marks yes but you still have DN and a target is marked so u get all those benefits

[sand sigil]

bro what the fuck is dn? im looking for the talent deez nuts and i cannot find it

[golden loom]

darkest night

[coral ibex]

darkest night

[nova kelp]

darkeset night

[golden loom]

capstone

[real pike]

I swear to god I have DsM randomly drop in dungeons sometimes still

it happens every time with big momma

[golden loom]

like if you are going into a fresh pack then ambush is always the best

[coral ibex]

yea shits buggy af

m+ bosses that rp phase out and dont die

eat ur mark/dn

[golden loom]

but if you are going into a pack and you have darkest night from the previous, then it gets interesting

[coral ibex]

every time

[nova kelp]

basic gist is you don't want to be in a situation where you end up worried so much about getting bleeds out that you forget to apply a deathstalkers mark to something

[sand sigil]

ohhhhh ok ok ok so going into first pull of the dungeon, u ambush for mark insta, but if ur going into new pack w darkest night, u just get ur bleeds out then apply the mark with env

[real pike]

basically yeah

[golden loom]

yeah something like that

[spice spire]

Yes

[sand sigil]

ok ok w

a lot more minmax than years ago

still havent run a dungeon yet

working on the ui

[golden loom]

but even if you have the proc before that, just marking something is still good I think

[quartz trellis]

Yeah but it’s still snooze once you get it down

[golden loom]

cause you get singular focus + the auto attack damage from having a target marked

[nova kelp]

we believe in you king - go teach casual a lesson

[coral ibex]

yea it can be useful to ambush to apply a mark if for some reason ur DN buff is very low on duration and you might not get to consume it before spreading bleeds

[spice spire]

James has never snoozed a day in his life. Especially never playing the high octane spec of assassination rogue

[fallow canopy]

apm kings/queens rise

[quartz trellis]

3 million APM

[royal lantern]

gg

[nova kelp]

yeah
fucking up and not getting a ds mark on something because you missed your DN window...

that will kill you

[fallow canopy]

welcome to the club king

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-punch-ground-punching-ground-it-shouldve-been-me-it-shouldve-been-me-not-him-gif-18069003738146878767

[lavish geyser]

the move here would just to catalyse the hands right? since it would make me ablle to play sub and assa. and I can free up a chestslot if I take 4-set on hands. 🙂

[golden loom]

atleast u have some leeway with double vanish

[quartz trellis]

Shame you can’t pick one from each row 🥸

[nova kelp]

this is true, still though better to not have to

though I guess you have 2 banked on a 1 min rotation so like

if you fuck up that many times

probably just uninstall

or play bm

same thing

[quartz trellis]

Or ret

[coral ibex]

my vexie kill didn't lock in pink

scammed

[nova kelp]

me neither, I was running around after bikes

just to watch the 2 ww's AAAAAAAAAANIIIIIHILATE them

and then saunter back to the tank

[coral ibex]

never chase adds unless ur prog is literally going to permanently end

just hit boss

[real pike]

especially if you have no vanish up

[coral ibex]

because the WW's are just gonna blow them up

[nova kelp]

I was doing it to prove a point

someone was trying to tell me that the target switch isn't that bad

I was like "bruv, bruv...."

[coral ibex]

[tranquil stirrup]

i have the shiv tea macro, but still tea is using itself kinda... or am I missing smthing ?

[severe meadow]

God has his favorites…

[quartz trellis]

Below a certain energy threshold it auto procs

[tranquil stirrup]

Oh

[nova kelp]

tea just has an auto use built in now

[quartz trellis]

30% I think, cant remember off hand

[tranquil stirrup]

that explains it

Thank you

i thought i was imagining things 😄

[royal lantern]

you didnt saw me in the past

doing the frking timewarped dagger proc dungeon

58 times

[nova kelp]

BRO

FUCK THAT FUCKING DAGGER

[coral ibex]

spatter go brrrrrrr

[nova kelp]

shit was as bad as fucking sylvanas

like

fuck off

me and 2 dh mates were just hitting that shit up back to back, doing absolutely nonsense pulls

we probably caused the deaths of like 60 healers a day from the pug crew

all having aneurysms and heart attacks trying to keep up

in the end we got our weapons in back to back runs outa nowhere

and I never touched that fucking dungeon again

[royal lantern]

oh yeha, i NEVER saw that one

[nova kelp]

I did in s4 lol

[royal lantern]

and i did it the entire tier on normal+hc for the drop

[nova kelp]

and then you got one and found out that 2 was twice as good

FUCK

[sand sigil]

is there any rule about like reapply deathmark btw where u land on 6cps but u need 7 to envenom? do u just overcap a mutilate orrr like refresh a garrote outside of pandemic? or just like finish on 6 and not reapply it and go next or what?

[golden loom]

u can also FoK

[nova kelp]

^

[golden loom]

in m+ its a gain even

or maybe its more even now with muti buff

[nova kelp]

if you have to overcap, you overcap, you need the maxed out enven

[sand sigil]

its better to fok without the proc for 1 cp than to overcap with a mutilate?

[subtle tundra]

no rule. mutilate or garrote if in pandemic

mutilate good

fok bad

[sand sigil]

o

ok

unnoted

[subtle tundra]

some people fok cause it feels better

or some gaslighting

they tell themselves

[vestal cliff]

the pin says arterial on every fight with adds, so every boss except lockenstock right?

[real pike]

30 energy

[quartz trellis]

Ah yeah

[spice spire]

It actually is a very small gain to fok instead on every build but VV iirc

[nova kelp]

if in pandemic

[spice spire]

It’s in the prepatch bit

[nova kelp]

I missed that

[real pike]

I sometimes refresh Garrotte if I'm close to pandemic, like 8 seconds

don't tell Whispyr

[subtle tundra]

If you're on 6cp with darkest night, you should mutilate in single target with vicious venoms, fan of knives on 2+ targets.

[subtle tundra]

huh?

[spice spire]

This was prepatch final update

Pretty sure VV changes this

But it’s definitely in the pins

[nova kelp]

wait on wait on

vv in keys too?

[spice spire]

No

You’re not vving in keys

Ever

Ever

[nova kelp]

he's referring to keys

[spice spire]

Ever

[nova kelp]

wait

did we just switch topic?

[spice spire]

Yeah and I’m saying universally

You do it

[coral ibex]

no james is preparing to be a dungeon doer

[spice spire]

Except with VV

[golden loom]

yeah so in keys

send that shit

[nova kelp]

^

[fallow canopy]

foking time

[subtle tundra]

fucking fok

[golden loom]

idk its all whatever u do tank damage anyways in ST!!!!

MEOW

[oak tangle]

nobody fok smash my door

[spice spire]

Mfs not even reading the notes

Smdh

[subtle tundra]

mfs not even playing assa

me

[spice spire]

Now you mfs aren’t allowed to tell someone to read pins

[real pike]

this is a bit misleading as you always VV in raid now

[fallow canopy]

never meet your heroes kinda moment

[nova kelp]

that's whispyrs job

[spice spire]

Stix bunkjunker has entered the call

[oak tangle]

-_-

[spice spire]

[nova kelp]

it's our job to fill the chat with 17 different answers based on slightly different undedrstanding of the question

[golden loom]

I played VV on stix

[nova kelp]

then whispyr comes in and says "STFU READ THE FUCKING PINS"

[fallow canopy]

I'm vving that fucker don't matter what anyone says

[real pike]

wait explain

[spice spire]

If you ovinax (aka Ct) you drop both VV

[humble verge]

what is this reading youre talking about

[real pike]

ohhh forgot it's the ovinax build on that boss

[golden loom]

look at this, ethical no CT gaming

[coral ibex]

no ball moment

[golden loom]

(I got the ball 3 times and ran it into boss insta to skip mechanic)

[real pike]

difficulty?

[golden loom]

heroic

[real pike]

well then

[fallow canopy]

based and garbage pilled

[spice spire]

Micky mouse ahh boss fight

[real pike]

you get way more waves of adds on mythic no/

[coral ibex]

bruh my raid lead would have a fucking meltdown

[golden loom]

it was a pug

[coral ibex]

o

ez

fuck em

[nova kelp]

this is absolutely hero work

[coral ibex]

i should grief some heroic pugs for parses this week

[coral ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/fuckem-chapelle-davechapellw-gif-14953769

[golden loom]

[nova kelp]

holy shit

I need to do that

[golden loom]

LOOK AT THE UPTIME HAHAH

[coral ibex]

wait how slow was that kill

wtf

[shell crater]

Am I right to assume that unless it’s a pure ST fight I wanna run caustic instead of IB?

[coral ibex]

you did literally 2x my damage

[spice spire]

Yes

[golden loom]

5:54

[real pike]

thoughts on using gilded crests to upgrade signet/eye?

seems not worth

[coral ibex]

man

[spice spire]

You literally run ib on a singular fight

[coral ibex]

i hate when parse meta is to find a shitter raid and hard carry them

i prefer speed kills

literally 2 mins slower than mine

[spice spire]

Depends on what you have available and how your vaults have been

[real pike]

you shgould in theory parse better on quicker kills

[shell crater]

Yea that being… sprocket I assume?

[coral ibex]

not on stix where you can get insane pad on the adds

every spawn

[spice spire]

I’ve had full intentions of crafting a neck + upgrading vault

[nova kelp]

if anyone here is being completely honest, we all run spatter on the only IB fight anyway because we forget to change talents before pulling sprocket

swapping talents is for nerds

[spice spire]

But then neck from vault

[fallow canopy]

I crafted neck this week idgaf (didn't have myth chest/head/pants to upgrade tho)

[real pike]

I have 200 gilded crests atm

[spice spire]

I also change to ttb as a man of god

[real pike]

but 2 crafts in the bank

[real pike]

ttb sims worse than arterial for me on patchwerk 5min

[golden loom]

well the pug also meant that the vexie kill was a horrorshow

[spice spire]

Had mythic meadery neck in

[coral ibex]

i killed sprockenstock this week with spatter bc of this

still got a 98

[fallow canopy]

I had hero mug'zee but still was a yuge upgrade

[nova kelp]

the true rogue

[spice spire]

Yeah this was like an almost 6 digit upgrade alone

[oak tangle]

this is all my stix looks like

[nova kelp]

that

[real pike]

what the fucking shit is that

[nova kelp]

is a weird skill loadout for a rogue

[spice spire]

Having power word shield on 4 is insane

[real pike]

and why are you not pressing Adrenaline Rush

[oak tangle]

there is like literally zero other needed buttons

[spice spire]

Fwiw came from a 639 mists neck

[nova kelp]

must be one of them, private servers

[spice spire]

Where’s your feather

Dispersion

[oak tangle]

tilde

[nova kelp]

swinton?

[oak tangle]

i dont wanna talk about dispersion

[golden loom]

I have the lockenstock jetpack on tilde

[spice spire]

Iirc you still run halo

Haven’t played spriest this tier

Focusing two characters is hard enough

[real pike]

wait there's a jetpack?

[fallow canopy]

I can barely play one

[dapper cradle]

what's your alt king

[spice spire]

Pwar

[nova kelp]

doesn't spriest have like a giga "i can actually move" build this tier?

[spice spire]

I’m shit

[oak tangle]

fine i expand

[spice spire]

Okay there we go

[oak tangle]

but still not talking about dispersion