#assassination

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waxen oyster
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It's literally the second pin

tawdry halo
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Therefore you don’t use vanish as a dps cooldown

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Please

waxen oyster
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I'm genuinely concerned about people's reading ability.

tawdry halo
waxen oyster
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If you can't see the third paragraph on second pin.

fast mural
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ultimate deluxe trinket simcs 25k more than priory wtf

cerulean burrow
honest needle
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is there a weakaura that procs that some 1 can share me so i kno when i should be using fan of knives on less then 3 targets ?

balmy condor
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the abilities page on wowhead has acronyms

cerulean burrow
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thx

fast mural
waxen oyster
brazen fern
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
fast mural
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what do you mean

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it procs mastery

balmy condor
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ignore it

fast mural
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a cool

tired finch
viscid spear
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F in chat for me not doing Delves

fast mural
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i like jundies plater @tired finch

waxen oyster
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Not a delvemaxxer

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smh

tired finch
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@fast mural can u link me privat? dont see it in there

viscid spear
waxen oyster
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my bran is 80

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and i got delvers journey achieve done for the season already

balmy condor
viscid spear
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I need to check sims

waxen oyster
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i might have a problem..

balmy condor
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they all do the same thing just pick which you think looks better

tired finch
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@balmy condor aight imma look at each

balmy condor
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mine is similar to jundies, uses the same m+ colors

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so that's something

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I think cev's uses quazii's

brazen fern
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Was there a change on the wa package, that it doesnt show clear the witnesses procc, if in ST Talents?

tired finch
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uhh jundies looks clean damn

balmy condor
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there wasn't a change, it should've always been like that

waxen oyster
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Though delves are great this season, i have full heroic 4p on 2 characters that havent seen a single dungeon or raid

ionic fox
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Where is bleed M+ build?

balmy condor
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wowhead

ionic fox
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not seeing it on wowhead

balmy condor
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scroll down

umbral sierra
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where do i get catch up spark

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for crafting

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did keys did special event world quest thing did awakening machine nothing

waxen oyster
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play the game

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its rng

viscid spear
umbral sierra
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uninstalling

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lol

fast mural
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@ionic fox

magic fossil
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holy shit

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send him a fa

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fax

celest helm
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Does vicious venoms change anything in our rotation or just make us feel slower

waxen oyster
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"Not seeing it"

haughty flicker
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not on cheat sheet = gg

waxen oyster
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I really like when people say

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"I looked"

fast mural
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Mr Hero do you look pins ?

uncut vapor
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we stickign with acension still or should we just craft Weapon grip and lining if we only care about mplus?

balmy condor
waxen oyster
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Ascension was never best for keys so wdym "still"

balmy condor
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who out here screenshottin the pins

lethal heart
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!guide

marble hemlock
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out here screenshottin the penis

celest helm
marble hemlock
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how do you know theres pins if youre blind?

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and is there such a thing as illegally blind?

fast mural
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HAHAH

magic fossil
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@marble hemlock dont do that, i did in walmart and now i can never go back

marble hemlock
magic fossil
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amazing place, everything have sugar and 80% are obese

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you must visit someday

marble hemlock
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i wonder if theres a correlation

celest helm
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So anyways does VV change our rotation at all

magic fossil
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idk so, its genetics.

marble hemlock
tired finch
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btw guys do we actually know which spec is better between outlaw and sin ? i know sin is giga aoe but giga trash st where as outlaw seems quite decent in both ways no ? pls help. dont know what imma loot spec on vault day xd

celest helm
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Whats a pin

marble hemlock
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seeing how answering all your questions would just be us screenshotting all the pins

fast mural
waxen oyster
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Sub exists

marble hemlock
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you might as well read those yourself

fast mural
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top right the icon i sended

waxen oyster
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Also why do people try to push this narrative that sin does tank st

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it literally doesnt

cerulean burrow
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so when do I apply garrot now ?

fast mural
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new bleed is fine, 1.9 simcs giga for st 3 mins

balmy condor
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when did you apply garrote before

waxen oyster
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Whenever I go on discord im reminded

marble hemlock
waxen oyster
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how much tiktok was a mistake

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tiktok ahh attention spans

cerulean burrow
marble hemlock
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attention span was ruined way before anyone conceived of tiktok

balmy condor
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okay

waxen oyster
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twitter?

balmy condor
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so instead of that

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you just garrote in pandemic

marble hemlock
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tiktok didnt create that market, they just used it

viscid spear
balmy condor
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whenever you'd like

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cause it's just

lethal heart
balmy condor
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a regular garrote

marble hemlock
cerulean burrow
viscid spear
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Which I suppose isn't too bad since we killed OAB pretty easy

spice surge
waxen oyster
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I suggest

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This part of the guide

naive sandal
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How accurate is the list of trinkets on wowhead?

balmy condor
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less accurate than simming yourself

naive sandal
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That most likely answers my next question lol

normal mist
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questions*

waxen oyster
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I mean 99% of gear questions

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can be answer by raidbots

balmy condor
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sims/guide/pins answer 99.9% of questions in here

naive sandal
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i have Seaforium charge as well as Mega Magnet trinkets in my vault, raid bots says the magnet is better, but wowhead disagrees.

waxen oyster
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except for healers i guess but

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who tf gives healers gear

balmy condor
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I mean, magnet in single target is really good

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magnet in aoe less so

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so how am I supposed to rank those on a single list

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don't use dogshit tier lists and bis lists

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gg

naive sandal
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So it comes down to a raid ST trinket vs a M+ trinket essentially

balmy condor
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kinda

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seaforium is still good in st

waxen oyster
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ilvl matters

naive sandal
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both are heroic

cerulean burrow
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I tried looking on wowhead and asking AI and i looked in my spellbook and i cant seem to find what pandemic is... is it a buff or a debuff or ?

severe meadow
balmy condor
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it's a game mechanic

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!pd

prisma monolithBOT
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Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

marble hemlock
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!dn

naive sandal
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I am almost tempted to take seaforium just so i don't have to push any buttons on trinkets lol

tired finch
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can some1 link the "best" m+ build for assa when it comes to +12 and up. or did it not switch from last week? wowhead seems to be using the one.

balmy condor
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that's fine

trail socket
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big ups to @balmy condor for updating the guide so fast and doing the sims on the buffs. has made learning assassination super easy to digest

balmy condor
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it did not switch from last week

tired finch
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fuck mage the fuck

balmy condor
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cause ya know

dapper halo
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ill ask this one again, the set bonus seems to produce somekind of sounds, are those sounds "usable" information, or just an extra thing...?

balmy condor
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I CANT BOLD IT ANY MORE

naive sandal
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Mage? MAGE? THIS IS THE AREA OF SHADOWS AND STABBINGS.

marble hemlock
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you could UNDERLINE IT

naive sandal
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At least say WARLOCK

balmy condor
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CAN I UNDERLINE TITLES

marble hemlock
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or alternate between bold and cursive letters

fleet pagoda
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just DM it to everybody in Ravenholdt, easy peasy

balmy condor
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OH SHIT

tired finch
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xddd

viscid spear
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Dumb question but it doesn't matter what slot the Culminating Blasphemite is in, does it?

balmy condor
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READ THE GUIDES YOU APES

wild jackal
haughty flicker
earnest remnant
marble hemlock
tired finch
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XDD WHISPYR I LIKE IT BETTER WHEN U TELL ME

marble hemlock
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checkmate

balmy condor
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I AM TELLING YOU

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I WROTE THE GUIDE

dapper halo
earnest remnant
balmy condor
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THE GUIDE I ME TELLING YOU

tired finch
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ME SAW WHO

marble hemlock
tired finch
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AND WHO SAW ME

wild jackal
dapper halo
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oh, okai

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so blizz added one more source of dopamine

viscid spear
cerulean burrow
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okay so ..... i cna just use a regular garrot for opener there and then fan of knives there to use up clear the witness ?

haughty flicker
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ragglefraggle

haughty flicker
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damn i havent thought about that show in a long time

normal mist
viscid spear
viscid spear
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My Mage still has "LAVOS SUS MANOS" macro'd to Time Warp

normal mist
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Whispyr everyday:

viscid spear
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So again about my gem question...

balmy condor
red schooner
haughty flicker
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im ready for the dark ages

red schooner
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imagine taking the effort to find the discord but not taking the effort to read a guide garf_sit

normal mist
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BRING THE DARK AGES

balmy condor
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you think assa APM is low? this discord APM is gonna be half that

red schooner
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wild

normal mist
leaden tangle
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!wa

normal mist
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Muahahah

prisma monolithBOT
silent drift
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Ehh after buffs, aside from talent changes, nothing changes in raid rotation?

marble hemlock
red schooner
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Can we just get a bot posting 'CHECK THE PINS' at random intervals?

haughty flicker
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you dont get a say

normal mist
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oi oi oi

haughty flicker
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peasant

nova kelp
marble hemlock
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well its 2 against one

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think we win

silent drift
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yea lol

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i just checked pins

balmy condor
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well

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a promise is a promise

silent drift
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scratch that post

normal mist
balmy condor
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have fun

red schooner
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FUCK

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RUN

earnest remnant
marble hemlock
balmy condor
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I'm gonna make myself lunch

red schooner
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Okay its slowmode i gotta make my one message count - wait FUCK

balmy condor
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before raid

normal mist
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Slowmode like this reminds me of my conversations with my grandmother

balmy condor
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have fun

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gl

earnest remnant
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u streamin today

warm parcel
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🗿

earnest remnant
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or internet still garbage?

balmy condor
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I will try

nova kelp
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slow mode helps me focus on work instead, I actually vibe this

dapper cradle
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Lmao sin chat name - 15 min slow mode HOLY

time to communicate in edits and reactions

Chat should I goon or edge rn

normal mist
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believe me, people will still show up and still ask

viscid spear
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Oh hey, a new channel

fleet pagoda
normal mist
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Aight lets play a game:

Have you read the pins yet?

royal lantern
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YOOOOOOOOO

SLOWMODE poggers

normal mist
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(he didn't actually say it, for legal reasons)

midnight mist
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ok that pin was boring nvm

silk bane
tawdry halo
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HOLY I always wondered what would make Whispyr crack it

static glacier
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bro NA brains slowmoded the channel smh, all Im seeing is read the pins xd

uneven plume
fast mural
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yikes

stoic totem
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Woo Mythic Signet from vault today peepoLove

solar wyvern
normal mist
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Whispyr RN having food:

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"Chat looks pretty behaved today"

balmy condor
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@swift roost

sonic schooner
stark umbra
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Any pins enjoyers?

past oracle
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Do pins say if we are a rank 1 giga spec now

fallen charm
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does anyone know if Hybrid M+ builds did not change, Bleed M+ builds take blindside, Raid builds take VV, see wowhead or other pin for info?

clever sapphire
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no shot these assa changes gave us slowmode

normal mist
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Weird right?!

oak tangle
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i wish i were exempt from slowmode, so i could ask questions about spriest, because i don't see any of that info in the pins

hidden bay
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channel renamed sad that aint my channel anymore

blazing kayak
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how much do we care about avoidance as rogues in keys. should that affect my vault picking decision at all

normal mist
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we don't

subtle thistle
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hey, can i just ask for a bit of clarity on this statement from the aoe rotation on wowhead?

Utilize Indiscriminate Carnage to help maintain enough energy for your rotation. This typically occurs at around 5-6 bleeds between both Garrote and Rupture

is that 5-6 garrotes and 5-6 ruptures that we are targetting (i.e. 10-12 total bleeds out) or 5-6 total bleeds?

balmy condor
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12 total, 5 ruptures for scent/energy, improved garrotes for the damage. Generally want to spread improved garrotes to everything in the pack

west crown
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@haughty flicker you good? kekdog

balmy condor
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the 5-6 garrote thing is just an eyeball generalized thing

solar wyvern
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Everytime Whispyr repeats a pin, another white monster perishes. Even now, we have a sighting of the killer scene perpetrated by tonight's events:

desert orchid
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so why do I see most m+ build recommendations on the guides go for iron wire instead of sanguine?

normal mist
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because pugs are dumb

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and you can save the day

balmy condor
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guides are written for people who will benefit from iron wire, not organized groups who don't need a silence

viscid spear
normal mist
cinder bone
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WE DOING 13s NOW BOYS

spice spire
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what if instead of wowhead it was freakhead and instead of giving all the most up to date information about assassination rogue, it gave the FREAKIEST information about FREAKSINATION rogue and instead of reading the pins we read the freaks and then we pulled it out and engaged in a flesh sword fight and the loser had to bend over and send feet and instead of doing simming ourselves we just kissed

normal mist
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Sounds like a plan

hollow river
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What happened in here? aPES_EyeTwitch

cerulean nest
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yo algari mana oil is goated

runic hinge
sinful temple
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
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Rogue WA's:
Wago.io TWW Rogue
For more specific Rogue WeakAuras, run the !wa command in your preferred specialization channel.

sonic schooner
cunning needle
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How much haste do we need with the new raid build?

waxen oyster
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Basically people see buffs and try to bandwagon.

hollow river
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Glad I was busy making taco soup jammies

static glacier
quasi ingot
spice spire
eternal hawk
hardy prairie
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everforged stabber isnt unique equip and we can equip 2 right?

rich kayak
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Yes

midnight mist
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Hi, my name is ryukage. I an ex-outlaw player. I still suffer from outlaw addiction. I'm currently in withdrawals. But the spec was destroyed by blizzard and hasn't been fixed yet. Meanwhile as it's broken it still receives nerfs. It's comical. I cannot return. I cannot endure another tww season 1. I can't endure another 1000 declines and little to no game time, on top of low damage reward for high apm.

-Ryukage
Ex-Outlaw

cinder bone
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WHY CANT TALK

spice spire
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Also @balmy condor why can I talk

cerulean burrow
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im sorry i may have asked this question befoer ? but i forgot .... in this rotation guide.... is this saying that on the first shiv, we want to do one NOT with a thistle tea ?

wooden radish
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slowmode is befitting of ass rotation

oak tangle
blazing kayak
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is there a certain % haste we want as sin rogues in keys or is there a % that would be considered too little or too high

remote vale
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I cant see my caustic spatter animation anymore 😦

turbid sandal
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What is the effective range on Caustic Spatter?

royal lantern
spice spire
sour void
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Hey I had a question about assassination, not sure if it's been asked

fallow canopy
lean plover
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Wtf is going on and why do i have the feeling whispyr is about to start his hillain arc

soft surge
shadow badger
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!plater

gentle badger
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
tawdry halo
tall atlas
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wtf

coral ibex
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bleed build yes

15 MINUTES?!

one macro a day to improve your gameplay

ember mural
midnight mist
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yo I have my message back, hello people !

uneven plume
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isnt every boss fight "with cleave"? kekdog

lavish whale
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
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Rogue WA's:
Wago.io TWW Rogue
For more specific Rogue WeakAuras, run the !wa command in your preferred specialization channel.

restive falcon
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we taking AP and dropping TTB for every boss but sprocket? Smile

honest needle
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whats the talent called that makes u fan of knives now in m+ single target

static glacier
# honest needle whats the talent called that makes u fan of knives now in m+ single target
gray horizon
hidden bay
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link your sims OMGScoots

hardy prairie
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just make it without the embellishment no?

subtle crown
mighty rapids
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the bleed build does pump in aoe but its kinda cringe i dunno...still think hybrid is better

blazing kayak
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wat 3rd item did u guys craft

balmy condor
balmy condor
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don't craft a stiletto

balmy condor
sonic schooner
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Whispyr doesnt respect the slow mod wtfwtf mod abuse ! happy_holiday_pepe

somber sparrow
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cool channel name

polar fjord
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playter

gray pond
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Hi everyone,
What is better build for +10 keys? Hybrid or Bleed? Or is it depending on the gear?

elfin valley
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thanks for all the work ya put in whispyr

spice surge
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Whatever you prefer. Theyre pretty much the same, RE: bleeds vs hybrid

cerulean burrow
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what is the best build for uh stix now ?

kindred imp
balmy condor
balmy condor
viscid spear
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When will you undo the slowmode?
PU_PepeOkaySip

soft surge
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same do i craft it - nvm

versed mica
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Funny question, but does lingering darkness increase elemental focus lens damage if you have haste gems because it makes it a nature damage proc?

balmy condor
slim hamlet
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Good to see nothing has changed

balmy condor
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(it doesn't make focusing lens any good though)

runic hinge
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I am excited to use vanish whenever I want for funsies in raid now. I hope everyone has a good night

gilded oasis
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vanish outta raid into bed

wanton spear
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so nice to have a defensive cd as a defensive cd lol

gusty mirage
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why's it so quiet in here?

tropic plover
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are we still bugged on xav in TOP?

balmy condor
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no

cinder bone
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The slow chat physically wounds me

umbral citrus
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I don't know if this was asked before but should I get more haste with vicious venoms to help with energy?

balmy condor
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no

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the amount of haste you would need to "help" is so unrealistically high that you'd better start hoping bfa haste corruptions come back

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I would say scroll up

severe meadow
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I can see that same question asked on my screen

balmy condor
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but I don't think you have to

lethal heart
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@gusty mirage mad

midnight mist
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Do I have my message back already hi hi

cinder geode
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which m+ build would be better for higher cinderbrew keys ? doing a 12 atm

snow hamlet
red schooner
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i can only post every 15 minutes and i am using my post to garf. garf_sit

coral ibex
tepid breach
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Where are show the changes on wowhead?
Oh nvm in talent got it

shadow badger
gilded oasis
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Quake stinks
like cheese

wind totem
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Do we fully ignore Clear the witnesses now or just during CDs? I assume with the buffs to mut and vanish and the fact taht we take VV now, we no longer use fan on 6 cp during darkest night right? I remember reading that it was fine to use fan on 6 cp to get to 7.

Last time I read the pin it didn't say anything about what I asked. One would think that the pin would start with a note of it being updated since last time.

mortal badger
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read-pins-assassination

naive crane
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guys, stupid question.. i was wondering why my 2 min trinket is on cooldown and my DM is ready. any advice? macro'd both together

spice surge
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Last weeks affix in m+ reduced cooldowns of your spells and not your trinket

honest basin
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Hi, when I'm reading the numerical values given by the different enchants I'm not sure why Radiant Power is the pick always. The Mastery enchant for instance gives close to 2x the value of Radiant Power, and Mastery is an excellent stat. What's the reason why ? I get the "just sim, the computer knows" answer, but I'm trying to understand because when I look at the character sheet I gather that the main stat proc would be, roughly, 10% extra main stat from gear, while the mastery proc would be about close to 20% extra damage from Mastery. Is there a difference in proc rate/uptime ?

midnight arrow
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Mastery doesn't effect all of the damage you do, just because you get 20% mastery doesn't make it a 20% increase

balmy condor
static glacier
balmy condor
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NOT TRUE FOR EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER

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y'all make me fucking miserable

lean plover
balmy condor
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be free go talk

tall atlas
red schooner
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we're free

static glacier
red schooner
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we did it

tall atlas
# balmy condor be free go talk

i imported the M+ build from wowhead and there was no blindside in it, idk if im not reading something right but i thought it was meant to be there

viscid spear
lean plover
honest basin
tall atlas
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CMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMzMzMzwMAAAAAAAzixsNDAAAAAAttNzMYmxYmZWmlxYwMzYGMzMbbLjZA2MLDMglglhJwwyA

balmy condor
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yeah that's hybrid

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how would you get blindside on that buddy

tall atlas
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ah okay cool ty

balmy condor
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it's on the other side of the tree

tall atlas
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idk im not the expert

balmy condor
tall atlas
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i just follow your lead

balmy condor
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I beg

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please fuck

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read anything

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PLEASE

tall atlas
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I READ IT

balmy condor
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I can't do it anymore

dawn pollen
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if you scroll down you see alot of other builds xD

tall atlas
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HOW WOULD I KNOW ABOUT BLINDSIDE IF I DIDNT READ
IDK WAS A HYBRID IS I THOUGHT IT WAS A CAR

dawn pollen
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just read the whole page ?

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not hard

tall atlas
dawn pollen
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you clearly are not

balmy condor
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I have to categorize builds somehow

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so we can talk about things

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in an organized manner

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cause we have like 200 viable talent setups for m+

dawn pollen
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yes we would like them all detailed plz and in alphabetic order

static glacier
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bro might not survive the removal of slow mode

sudden brook
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hello whyspyr

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Why do sims press fok but you say dont press fok with vv

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are sims noob?

opal roost
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Running Signet of the Priory now, but flask of alch chaos kind of messes with it. Should I just try to make mastery that far ahead of crit to account for flask variance or stop using alch chaos, or just accept that sometimes signet will suck a lot because of flask RNG?

Having a hard time figuring this out on my own.

mortal badger
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imagine trusting a bot bro

timid vale
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whispyr handing out beatings till morale improves

static glacier
azure dirge
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
soft surge
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@balmy condor sama i craft boots here right? the weapon is meme?

opal roost
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Thanks, I'll try that.

tame lake
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what is everyone crafting?

plain hare
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how is the sin buff ? are we back compared to sub ?

soft surge
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better than sub

dawn pollen
brave comet
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definitely better than sub

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but not better than warrior, go play fury

soft surge
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80% less brain power 80% more chill guy gameplay

red schooner
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so, how long before we go back to slowmode

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;-:

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also i got benched on mythic rik and we haven't even tried him yet, fuck

soft surge
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nvm

brave comet
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what recent logs, there are no logs

soft surge
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sorry i thought u said "not"

plain hare
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i enjoy each spec of the rogue i ask to optimize

brave comet
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ass is definitely better since they were comparable to begin with

soft surge
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yea

brave comet
#

from my own experience i have not been outdps'd by a single sub last patch. but now it wont even be close

soft surge
#

and taks less mathmetically infinite theroy crafting balony to play

brave comet
#

^

static glacier
static glacier
#

some fights still favor sub

brave comet
#

i know the memes say ass rogue is trash but it was quite viable

plain hare
#

i mean specially for m+ what do you think

dawn pollen
soft surge
#

i think u gotta parse atleast 90+ on sub to beat an experienced assa rogue

#

and theres not many experienced sub rogues around these days

brave comet
#

there isnt

plain hare
brave comet
#

i saw a massive surge, but they kinda all sucked

soft surge
#

indeed

dawn pollen
brave comet
plain hare
#

okok thanks

azure dirge
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
haughty flicker
#

wait we back

brave comet
#

are not the new ass rogue changes up in raidbots? simming VV doesnt is less than 0.1% of a change for me

runic hinge
gilded oasis
wide ferry
#

Bleed build are we just sending shiv off cd?

gray raven
runic hinge
radiant osprey
#

does it matter what pieces we make out 4pc

#

our*

balmy condor
#

not really

radiant osprey
#

ok so then what do we want

brave comet
#

4p

radiant osprey
#

oh wait i read that wrong

#

mb ok thanks

shadow belfry
#

i did 4pc tier and grabbed the dung chest w mastery / crit

gritty plover
radiant osprey
#

thanks boo

thorny oxide
#

Well fella's first night in raid as rogue, and I can say I have a greater appreciation for those of you that stick with it. I am hoping you guys get a good rework very soon. I'm going back to enh, peace!

runic hinge
oak eagle
#

with the buffs

#

we swap imp garrote master assass and artieral right

#

for double VV and TTB

midnight scroll
#

yes

oak eagle
#

k

#

thought so

#

wanted to make sure

snow hamlet
#

I love VV

high jetty
#

I wonder why fate bound doesn’t also switch to VV.

cinder bone
#

damn crafted neck big upgrade

spice surge
midnight scroll
high jetty
#

It’s a bit worse now

cinder bone
#

hmm... if choice is 68k dslice dps vs 2k patchwerk dps or 46k dslice dps and 22k patchwerk dps I should probably go with the latter right?

balmy condor
snow hamlet
balmy condor
#

I have two things to check for fuckbitch but it's so abyssmal it's nearly a waste of my time I'm ngl

soft surge
cinder bone
#

theres a boe neck from raid?

soft surge
#

crit mast one

cinder bone
#

oh damn ty

#

1.2mil f that lol

dapper cradle
#

any sin changes this reset?

acoustic roost
high jetty
#

I like coins

marble hemlock
#

thought hed say gooning

balmy condor
#

the main problem with fatebound is like

#

there's nothing to optimize on it lmao

#

fatebound is just such a huge pile of nothing

marble hemlock
#

its either tuned higher than DS or it isnt, and then you either play it or you dont ig

gray horizon
#

so with this magnet business, do we just slam it on lingering darkness only? or any other time at all?

high jetty
#

Yeah. I mean, they kinda both are. But here we are lol

marble hemlock
#

DS at least has some conditional things going for it

#

from lingering darkness to ctw to the mark itself

gray horizon
marble hemlock
#

some of those are boring and kinda suck too, but theres at least some substance there

balmy condor
marble hemlock
#

and it interacts with the kit in more than just a giga basic way

balmy condor
#

just one cast at the end

#

whatever stacks you have is gg

gray horizon
#

but it kinda naturally lines up that way yeah?

balmy condor
#

sure I guess idk

gray horizon
#

just from my 2 boss observation

#

lol

high jetty
balmy condor
#

you shouldn't be getting 30 stacks before the next lingering anyway

balmy condor
#

that's a quarter of your missing 2%

high jetty
#

Oh, I thought it was less than that

#

That’s fair, that’s worth doing

#

And I like seeing BIG OL envenoms. Regardless neither of them have a whole lot going on lol

balmy condor
#

deathstalker has a lot of tiny pieces of shit aids

#

fatebound just nothing

gray horizon
#

Ok last one senor whispyr of parse enabler

high jetty
#

Never change

gray horizon
#

for the dry shiv, is it ok to use shiv the finisher before LD is up

balmy condor
#

like theoretically I could add CT snapshotting into sims for deathstalker

#

but I can't be fucked and it wouldn't make follow the blood viable

gray horizon
#

or is it better to use it for the LD finisher + get some buff on next one

#

or does it literally not matter

high jetty
nova kelp
#

holy hell, what did you all do to my boi whispyr, I've never seen him swear so much

severe meadow
#

patch day, rogue changes

high jetty
#

Mentioned fatebound lol

marble hemlock
#

so its definitely the "better" designed tree, even though its not great either

high jetty
nova kelp
#

I hate that that is... true... but it is

I hate FB Sin though, something about it feels inherently incorrect

high jetty
#

I’d rather have no hero talent than DS. Let’s make one of the worst target swapper in the game even worse at swapping 🙂

balmy condor
#

so there's cheese there for the execute on sudden demise

#

but the execute on sudden demise isn't simmed

#

so I would have to do that math by hand

#

and the snapshotting on ct is aids

gilded oasis
#

HOLY I LOVE PARRY

balmy condor
#

the follow the blood thing is fine but follow the blood is awful

nova kelp
#

I kinda wish we could get trickster sin... I feel like there's some cook there

#

maybe that's cope

#

also that would imply the existence of dstalker outlaw...

marble hemlock
#

ill have you know that parry is a thematic ability that serves its purpose well in WoW, as a way for melee skill expression, and while you may think you get overly punished as a melee, ranged also lose DPS if you have to move a lot

nova kelp
#

parry should be removed from the game in pve

#

I'll fite you over this

#

I'll lose

#

but I'm prepared to die on that hill

#

we have run out mechanics and downtime to simulate a similar impact to move/cast - This was a design theory ghostcrawler used to note often, parry would be more like resists still being a thing

dense cove
#

any idea how assa is performing vs sub this week?

marble hemlock
#

better than last week

nova kelp
#

both good, they have different ups and downs

gilded oasis
gilded oasis
#

true

marble hemlock
#

its so important to the fabric of melee gameplay, that they made a hero talent tree that lets all melee ignore it

gilded oasis
#

except me

marble hemlock
#

so, ya know

nova kelp
#

lol

balmy condor
#

bro is the sidegrade collector

runic hinge
#

He’s got the goon hotline

#

Need that

mossy sundial
#

the goonhotline goes hard on sub ngl

viscid spear
#

HC clear up to Mug'Zee, I got nothing

restive falcon
#

2 weeks in a row i get rank2 on mythic carnage losing to PI Sadge

#

by 20k

shell crater
#

Hey guys quick question: in m+ should I just be making sure I have enough garrotes and ruptures on packs to keep my energy going or should I spam until I’ve applied to everything? My pack damage lacks at times so just trying to cover possibilities

#

Not sure if I’m waiting too long to do caustic damage

balmy condor
#

usually from ruptures

#

spreading non-empowered garrotes kinda blows a lot

#

cause they do shit all for damage

runic hinge
#

Think about the systemic failure damage tho

balmy condor
#

massive systemic failure

gilded oasis
#

i personally spam garrote until IC ends cause having that many iron wires and refreshing looks dope

#

who needs damage when you have iron wire

balmy condor
#

I did that week 1 on the no leavers yeh

#

was good

runic hinge
gilded oasis
#

WE'RE HUGE

runic hinge
#

That one 3 pack in rookery of all casters and they just never get a cast off and everyone else in the key is hella confused

gilded oasis
shell crater
restive falcon
umbral sierra
#

i got my spark catch up from a key

#

but i did my do 4 mythic quest and didnt get a spark

#

where do i get my spark for this week

quasi coyote
#

hows bleed build in M+ feeling

oak eagle
#

chat

#

how does a sin rogue effeciently do barrels on rik

runic hinge
#

Hope your tank drags him over so you can caustic cleave

shell crater
ornate aspen
oak eagle
#

which im not doing

ornate aspen
#

Or just rip into boss and blame your ranged

oak eagle
#

thats what i did last week

#

when we killed

#

and now im being told to switch again

#

but im not doin that

restive falcon
scarlet wyvern
#

assa meta again?

ornate aspen
#

Yeah there's no good way to do it as sin. Its just doo doo

fallow canopy
ornate aspen
rain oyster
#

!fuu

restive falcon
prisma monolithBOT
scarlet wyvern
ornate aspen
#

Swap every pull babe, live the dream

pale cargo
#

does Assa have good prio damage in M+?

balmy condor
fallow canopy
unique mirage
#

with our 3rd spark what should our 3rd crafted piece be if we have weapon and boots crafted

wanton nest
#

how do we use the magnet trinket?

#

just spam it?

#

or wait for stacks

agile osprey
#

Does it make more sense to macro house of cards to kingsbane instead of DM? Because casting DM -> shiv -> KB with it macro'd to DM would cause the trinket to end before KB is up....right?

unreal tide
scarlet wyvern
#

!fuu

wanton nest
#

ahhhhh so we only use during lingering, got it

prisma monolithBOT
runic hinge
hidden bay
# oak eagle how does a sin rogue effeciently do barrels on rik

Delay first cds till right before first adds spawn, 1 minutes get ready after for next set, after that you send one shiv into next ones before intermission and after that you just repeat till dead. Aside from that you just pray your raid sucks and doesn’t nuke all adds (if they have a good spawn)

dawn heath
#

should i do assa or outlul lootspec

#

i already have 2 daggers...

#

but i also dont want a disgusting outlaw wepaon

lethal arrow
#

or be a chad and just send everything off rip and let ur raid handle adds

oak eagle
#

everyone saving cds for barrels

#

i got benched for low add dam

hidden bay
oak eagle
#

because i was just letting spatter do all my dam

hidden bay
#

Yea that’s what you do

#

That’s just how it is

oak eagle
#

yeah i love when my guild tells me to try and do more add damage and im like

#

😭

#

i cant do more

earnest remnant
#

Go CT

#

Become the demon

oak eagle
#

was debating on using the ovinax build

hidden bay
#

wagmi on first kill I was playing CT, very fun

#

Also big grief

upper wraith
#

which build for heroic mugzee

oak eagle
eager plaza
#

In aoe, do you guys tab target to spread or just use on primary target with IC

pliant remnant
#

Yes

#

I also occasionally mouseover

topaz horizon
#

1% loss over a normal jastor and cyrce 😦

pliant remnant
#

but that comes with being a human being who doesn't always do the exact same thing in every scenario

regal cloud
#

Yo did u guys know if theres a way to know on what piece a catalyst become ?? like i have bad boots from vault but i wonder if it become bis mast crit or bad hast vers boots from raid

tender cedar
#

if you just go put any piece from that slot in the catalyst it should show you what item it catalyzes to for that slot

balmy condor
#

yeah

#

or if it's in your vault and you haven't picked it

#

you can just /simc your vault

regal cloud
#

i mean without having the piece in bags^^

balmy condor
#

and then catalyst it

#

in top gear

regal cloud
#

oh

#

ill try ty

sullen mural
#

this game is ass

cinder bone
#

Seems good?

sullen mural
#

everything a downgrade OK

cinder bone
#

Yikes

sullen mural
#

Eye only gets better on like 7 minutes

balmy condor
#

rescue keg not good?

fallow acorn
#

what is the best two trinkets for rogue i got house of cards is it stronger than SIGNET ?

sullen mural
#

Idk sims worse than my darkflame one

balmy condor
#

you have a myth darkflame already?

#

jesus

#

bro is rollin in it

balmy condor
#

you play the one you have

coral ibex
#

actual quote

#

not from them

fallow acorn
#

but i have hands mythic track on the vault its better to take it no ?

coral ibex
#

but ive read it in gchat

balmy condor
#

better to take than what

sullen mural
#

if rescue keg didnt have mastery I'd take it for outlaw offspec

shell crater
#

how does jastor diamond actually work? Just got one from vault. So if it transfers to the other person for 15sec does it then start stacking again after?

balmy condor
#

every couple seconds it gives you bonus stats

#

with a chance to lose the stats

#

if you hit the lose, it resets you and gives the stats to your buddy for a short duration

shell crater
#

Ohhh I see so literally tier set all over again

#

minus the transfer lol

balmy condor
#

uh

#

yeah I guess

#

except the chance to lose happens at the same time of you getting the stack

#

instead of finishers

#

but yeah, pretty close

shell crater
#

Gotcha

fallow acorn
#

i meant i have Mythic track hands and i have also house of cards, i can faarm signet of they are equal and take the hand right ??

gusty mirage
#

is your hoc hero or myth track

fallow acorn
#

hero

balmy condor
#

yeh I mean neither option sounds great

#

second boss mythic drops hands

#

I guess take the hands for the crest save or whatever

gusty mirage
#

either choice all you're essentially doing is saving crests, but myth hoc is going to be a clusterfuck to get from raid

sullen mural
#

kill 2nd boss mythic yoink hands take house of cards after gg

balmy condor
#

yeh or just farm the signet

sullen mural
#

or that

fallow acorn
#

but i mean if Signet = house of cards nothing wrong to take the hands ?

gusty mirage
balmy condor
#

signet is arguably better

gusty mirage
#

not that I'd know, just loot it your first run

balmy condor
#

VERY minor

#

because it buffs people in your party with it

#

but yeh generally signet and hoc are identical

fallow acorn
#

TY ❤️ soo much

sullen mural
#

my tank took signet from vault week 2 just for the group buff

#

thats my goat

balmy condor
runic hinge
gusty mirage
runic hinge
#

Lots of feint

gusty mirage
#

and the 3 or 4 mini bosses before you even see 1 boss?

#

like hello?

#

overall though

#

I've done way worse dungeons

balmy condor
#

I mean yeah but you got 3 bosses in there instead of like 5

haughty flicker
#

ever since i learned you can just stand in the consecrate casts i dont hate priory anymore

#

its ok

runic hinge
#

This season isn’t too bad

balmy condor
#

this season is the best season in years

spice spire
half tartan
#

Is there any value play or reasoning to play assassin in Stix Bunkunker VS Sub? played sub for tonight and it felt good

runic hinge
haughty flicker
#

yeah it doesnt do instant damage

gusty mirage
#

and uh

#

why

runic hinge
#

wtf is the circle for

half tartan
#

I played assassinn TN and it felt good**

gusty mirage
#

why is that a fucking dungeon

haughty flicker
#

solely to fuck with melee

sullen mural
#

awareness ig

runic hinge
#

Beeeeees

gusty mirage
#

tf you mean wtf is it for

runic hinge
#

(I’m allergic)

gusty mirage
#

I'm also allergic to bees

haughty flicker
#

yeah but normally circle aoe = move out immediately

runic hinge
#

I mean I get it but I thought it was like gonna blow me up

gusty mirage
#

and to that dogshit dungeon

haughty flicker
#

these circle aoes dont do shit

gusty mirage
#

I'm very allergic to it

runic hinge
#

Real

spice spire
#

My favorite thing was taking it for the first time and hearing my raids main tank being like “yeah that hallway fucked me up because I didn’t presss a button”

gusty mirage
#

tbh if I can never do cinderbrew again

#

I'm okay with that

runic hinge
#

I send a kb on a pally and then gotta run away every 2 secs while he and his bff spread the light

spice spire
#

Get final stung x3 and instant die

#

Because no shield block

runic hinge
#

But apparently I don’t gotta

gusty mirage
#

maybe I do the 10 to get the portal

ember mural
#

real

runic hinge
#

My only portal left is floodgate and I got an 11 from vault so we’re chillin

gusty mirage
#

never forget when I protested murzond's rise in s3 of DF

#

I refused to do it on tyrannical week

runic hinge
#

Real

#

Based as hell

haughty flicker
#

lmao

spice spire
#

I’m missing floodgate mother lode and brewery garf

#

Just hate brewery

sullen mural
#

cant wait to loot the ring from this surely

#

socket vault so gotta be right

gusty mirage
#

I hope you don't get the dogshit neck like I did

runic hinge
gusty mirage
#

that season

#

was so bad

sullen mural
#

well rik nec is actually simming okay for me so if i get a nec its 50/50

gusty mirage
#

god comp w/ augvoker

#

just facerolling everything

runic hinge
#

It was the most keys I’ve ever done lol. I hated m+ by the end of it

gusty mirage
#

s2 was when I was giga try hard

spice spire
#

Same

#

Sort of

gusty mirage
#

ANY WEEK 1 NO LEAVERS?

runic hinge
spice spire
balmy condor
#

you've never been tryhard in your life mr makemequake

mystic osprey
#

Is it time to assassinate my brother's?

gusty mirage
#

it's always time to assassinate

sullen mural
#

always

#

I think im at like 6 envenom kills on rik reverb

#

ramping

gusty mirage
#

these mfers played assa when it was literally doing tank damage

#

season 1 SL

half tartan
#

would you guys play sub on reverb? I was doubling 2nd's add damage

runic hinge
gusty mirage
#

shout out 9.0

sullen mural
#

Or you just

mystic osprey
sullen mural
#

yknow

#

have 2 windwalkers in your raid

#

should be enough

spice spire
balmy condor
spice spire
#

Sup

gusty mirage
dreamy rover
gusty mirage
#

bro actually fuck that dungeon

dreamy rover
#

lmao how

#

fucking full clear moment

#

kill every single mob

spice spire
#

You see when you rat clear something

gusty mirage
#

I watched my friends sit in a priory

runic hinge
gusty mirage
#

for an hour and 45 minutes

spice spire
#

And another person is on their alt off speccing

sullen mural
spice spire
#

And there’s 112 deaths

#

It tends to take time

runic hinge
#

We were over an hour and we quit on third boss cause we knew it wasn’t happening

gusty mirage
runic hinge
#

Sooo bas

#

We were trapped in there

gusty mirage
#

the rock throwers on the worm boss would just 3 shot people

runic hinge
#

Lmao our healer was going crazy

gusty mirage
#

good tuning

dreamy rover
#

over an hour???????????????

gusty mirage
#

for unavoidable damage

dreamy rover
#

wtf LOL

gusty mirage
#

very cool

runic hinge
#

So cool

#

You just hoped to rng spread them out so one person didn’t get insta killed

spice spire
#

Mfs don’t understand the dedication

runic hinge
#

Keep trying with lust over and over

spice spire
#

The following key

gusty mirage
spice spire
#

We added a rat to the mix with a 604 mage in a ten top

dreamy rover
gusty mirage
gusty mirage
#

tryin to get that myth track item

#

paid off though, was my first ever hof gladGe

spice spire
#

Also you know what’s shit

#

Tanking that fight as a warrior

runic hinge
gusty mirage
spice spire
#

Grabbing aggro while dropping the puddles away

gusty mirage
#

like "tanking", and "as a warrior"

spice spire
#

With 0 ability to do so

#

Incredible work

gusty mirage
#

that entire dungeon is fucking cringe

#

from start to end

#

everything drops shit on the ground

earnest remnant
gusty mirage
#

stealthi

#

did you see my rise today

#

619 to 644 in 1 day

earnest remnant
burnt venture
#

The come up

gusty mirage
#

I'm a bit of a gamer

#

what can I say

gusty mirage
#

needed cursed mastery so my candle wouldn't fuck up my signet

earnest remnant
#

I’m doing callouts on one armed

#

And now I can’t sleep

gusty mirage
#

neat

earnest remnant
gusty mirage
#

I drank a cup of coffe 3 hours ago

#

so here I am

#

nbd I just have to be at work in 7 hours

mystic osprey
#

👍

indigo mulch
#

I can't sleep unless i drink coffee :/

gusty mirage
#

I drank so much energy drinks that I could drink 40oz of monster or red bull and fall right asleep

#

I'm just an old man now

indigo mulch
#

I might as well hook up an iv drip with coffee instead of having to drink it.

mystic osprey
gusty mirage
#

you could do that new social media trend of a coffee enema

#

(don't do this)

earnest remnant
#

Slept 2 hours yesterday and it looks like it’s a no sleep angle today

gusty mirage
earnest remnant
#

Since it’s about 6 am

gusty mirage
#

word of advice just marry your girlfriend and then you'll pretend to sleep to get off the phone

indigo mulch
#

I worked as a chef for so many years before going into IT, I drink unhealthy amount of coffee. :/

gusty mirage
#

propose and suddenly you'll just get so sleepy

#

my evidence: push settled down and now he sleeps normal hours

#

I settled down and I'm usually asleep by 10pm

runic hinge
#

Smart

undone flame
#

morning anyone gat somthing good?

earnest remnant
#

The fuck about me then?

runic hinge
#

I settled down and I sleep like 8 hours a night

gusty mirage
#

they'll emotionally and mentally exhaust you to the point where you sleep to get some quiet

earnest remnant
#

She did a long time ago

gusty mirage
#

which part

earnest remnant
#

Propose

gusty mirage
#

get her a ring

earnest remnant
#

I did

gusty mirage
#

get your own place

#

bills are exhausting

earnest remnant
#

In this economy?????

unique mirage
#

why is raidbots saying to use siphoning stilleto as sin

gusty mirage
#

yeah why do you think I sold my soul and work in insurance defense now

spice spire