we'd still have the conversation
#assassination
keen spruce
but it would be people complaining about groups not killing packs evenly to allow for restealths
instead of chain pulling
drowsy verge
maining like the only healer class that actually still needs mana... I do appreciate the occasional 1 second between packs to start chugging a drink
balmy condor
Ye and if the healer needs a drink the rogue gets a restealth automatically
And it’s just fine
Cause you can’t pull with an oom healer
But otherwise it’s press W
drowsy verge
oh trust me...they do
keen spruce
people just don't realize that those moments occur VERY often naturally through a dungeon
balmy condor
Mythic+ is timed content
misty holly
Ye and if the healer needs a drink the rogue gets a restealth automatically
Dude, this is actually brilliant. Stand in fire just enough to drain the healer mana.
static glacier
A lot of people don’t realise they can hustle
keen spruce
like even with a tank actively trying to grief your restealths you might lose like...
4?
static glacier
And stay away from the new pack for 2-3 seconds and get a restealth
keen spruce
5?
static glacier
Even if the tank chains
keen spruce
static glacier
If they just kill the remnants of the last pack
keen spruce
duddint matta
balmy condor
Dude, this is actually brilliant. Stand in fire just enough to drain the healer...
I actively dislike the fact that this message pinged me
keen spruce
you're complicit now
amber brook
And stay away from the new pack for 2-3 seconds and get a restealth
Is there a distance you need to be away from the new pack once the old one dies? I do it but sometimes i dont get the option to restealth
static glacier
Is there a distance you need to be away from the new pack once the old one dies?...
Out of aggro range, and you need the dying pack to not actually touch the new mobs
keen spruce
!restealth
moroes is deadge 
cunning needle
RIP
runic hinge
shmeepy
static glacier
Aka you’re not in combat with the new pack, you can kidney a super low mob from the old pack following a tank but this is v situationally worth
runic hinge
keen spruce
cunning needle
oh shmeeps you weren't here yesterday for the one shot macro content
runic hinge
i did mouseover kicks today
coral ibex
one macro a day to improve your gameplay
keen spruce
cunning needle
one macro a day to improve your gameplay
shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up
keen spruce
i did mouseover kicks today
i'm proud of u
cunning needle
@keen spruce
static glacier
Only time you’d ever really need a restealth is if something bugged out your deathstalker mark and you don’t have vanish
coral ibex
guys please watch my youtube short about a fucking cast sequence macro
cunning needle
you have to be exposed to this
keen spruce
now have fun spending the next 2 seasons trying to accurately kick things with MO and pulling your hair out
cunning needle
we all must suffer for it existing
keen spruce
oh no
coral ibex
i like the comment from the guy who says he uses this guy's macros all the time
keen spruce
cast sequence 
coral ibex
yea bro just cast sequence your whole rotation
these heroic dungeons wont know what hit them
coral ibex
no
coral ibex
because its actually 2 macros
its not even 1 macro
its 2 buttons
so he's also a liar
its not 1 macro a day
drowsy verge
I remember back in like Burning Crusade they were making really big conditional cast macro buttons. Just prioritize the whole class. I remember playing a mage with one button until blizz started trying to nerf it.
static glacier
I think if ur gonna play 2 button macros sub would be better no?
high jetty
Feels rogue man
keen spruce
assas is simply not hard enough to warrant such silliness
u just put the bleeds on the things
then do ur ST stuff
cunning needle
<@166073317193678848> why are you soup
because i am onion soup
high jetty
I love onion soup
flint siren
I remember back in like Burning Crusade they were making really big conditional ...
Early Wrath when Dks could put all their abilities into a castrandom one and still ggez win arenas was also fun, though obviously a lot of shit came together in that moment to make that happen 
cunning needle
15 years ago or something i wanted to change my online nick to something less personally identifiable
so I was looking on my desk and my soup mug had a recipe for onion soup on it and i thought that'd be a good name
keen spruce
@runic hinge tomorrow gonna be the first nice day of the year, like 75 and sunny. Literally 0 tee times available in the whole city. I'm gonna go sit at the golf course at 7am and wait for someone to miss their Tee time
runic hinge
keen spruce
15 years ago or something i wanted to change my online nick to something less pe...
powerful
runic hinge
<@221124352861667340> tomorrow gonna be the first nice day of the year, like 75 ...
it snowed like 6 inches today
keen spruce
runic hinge
whatever
keen spruce
long season
keen spruce
runic hinge
i got free range at my course tho so i can just go jack ball all day
keen spruce
ye it comes back pretty quick
runic hinge
should do that as soon as they open
keen spruce
just go do some wackin
glad ferry
Ok so I've been trying to practice dry shiving and such. But I'm having trouble understanding one thing. it says I'll shiv the last 8 seconds of my non deathmark kingsbane. But my shiv is off cooldown perfectly as my KB is coming off CD. So am I just waiting to cast shiv until 8 seconds are left on KB or am I doing something wrong?
runic hinge
yes you're waiting to cover the back half on your off dm kb
drowsy verge
why only off DM?
glad ferry
Ok but I just want to make sure I understand. Shiv WILL be off CD at the same time as KB I'm just holding it up for last 8 seconds?
drowsy verge
Ok but I just want to make sure I understand. Shiv WILL be off CD at the same ti...
pretty sure thats cause you want it on the last ticks which are bigger damage
glad ferry
I see
runic hinge
yes
glad ferry
but then why does "Dry shiv" even matter as a concept
runic hinge
why only off DM?
you have 2 shivs for your dm kb
glad ferry
cause you just use it every 30 seconds anyway and it always lines up with your cds anyway
runic hinge
dry shiv is for darkest night with super charger during lingering darkness
big big envenom
glad ferry
Yeah I get that
runic hinge
youre shiving outside cds thats why its "dry"
glad ferry
But isnt that something we normally do without noticing anyway? lol
runic hinge
no becuse youre holding shiv for kb
golden loom
Your Kingsbane only gets 1 shiv
glad ferry
Ehhh I guess ? When KB isnt weak
runic hinge
you didnt shiv on cd ever?
golden loom
The darkest night envenom during lingering does big dam
runic hinge
well that was wrong
coral ibex
it was wrong to do so
keen spruce
dawn heath
You have this in logs
runic hinge
keen spruce
You have this in logs
you don't watch your log DPS live during a key
dawn heath
Key logs is from the second you start the key
keen spruce
dawn heath
Well Yeah but its perma ticking down
coral ibex
you dont have the log open with real time refreshes?
keen spruce
that's not the point of what we were talking about
drowsy verge
so shiv last 8 sec of KB, and shiv before darkest night envenom?
keen spruce
I must bedge 
glad ferry
Well yeah so you shiv during lingering + Darkest night when you have nothing
sure
big 11 Mil crit
but then KB without DM comes off cd
so I do that and shiv the last 8 secs
cause no LD
that it?
keen spruce
ye
runic hinge
and then save your next 2 charges for your dm again
drowsy verge
alright, got to make a weakaura for Lingering now
golden loom
Take the darkest night weakaura, duplicate it and replace the aura to lingering darkness
Fast and easy
runic hinge
could rip whispyrs from his pack as well
drowsy verge
yeah I just got to find a way to place it with my bleed tracker icons. My screen starting to look like a highway with dozens of billboards flashing at me
slate crown
yeah I just got to find a way to place it with my bleed tracker icons. My screen...
I put mine on Deathmark. It will always only be relevant when deathmark is over so having deathmark’s icon become LD works pretty well I think.
To save space
buoyant herald
!wa
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
trail socket
Hey all, loving assassin rogue recently, wonderful wow head guide and great info. I had a quick question regarding rupture combo points and if I overwrite them.
If I have 5combo rupture, would I overwrite it with a 7 point rupture or only in the pandemic window? Not sure how the bleed/dot works on this class yet
violet jackal
refresh in pandemic window
runic hinge
More combo points for rupture is just more duration
Still doing the same damage per tick at 5 or 7
violet jackal
or better wording is you would overwrite it, but you should just rupture again in the pandemic window at 5+ combo points
trail socket
Ahhh okay that makes total sense then. I was concerned I was losing damage over the duration if it wasn't cast at full combo points. Still learning. Much appreciated!!
ashen scroll
is raidbots updated for tomorrows buffs
violet jackal
maybe nightly version but can't confirm or deny
ashen scroll
ill sim new talents and see what happens
using the latest sim, it is it
i read tc channel
balmy condor
is raidbots updated for tomorrows buffs
buffs not in game -> buffs not in sims
buffs in game -> buff in sims
balmy condor
thank you
mystic osprey
balmy condor
yes he's gone
brave stump
quiet oar
bronze pike
yes he's gone
my condolenses whispyr.
balmy condor
thank you
zinc frost
yes he's gone
Sorry man 
balmy condor
it's okay, y'all don't gotta kill the vibe of the channel over my loss, I posted frosty appreciation in #1146207476983812117
this is assa channel
we're supposed to be happy about buffs
brave stump
no this is @balmy condor channel
balmy condor
buffs in 5 hours
!!
very cool and epic and no more fok in single target
isn't that neat
brave stump
I never saw so much empathy in this channel
quiet oar
I hope
Sin is now competition to Sub
So i can say fuck you to the Tansmitter
and Sub
brave stump
balmy condor
no house of cuck?
indigo mulch
No house of cuck.
indigo mulch
Last time we cleared hc our SP got it who legit had a 1k upgrade while the rest of us had around 10k upgrade. :C
quiet oar
no house of cuck?
-0,1% HC HoC
digital pollen
my windwalker has a higher dpsgain from normal hoc -> hero than i have from mythic transmitter-> mythic hoc
quiet oar
NO
brave stump
BIG FOK
balmy condor
lingering darkness is just too powerful man
zinc frost
Lingering dn
balmy condor
yeh
bit of a fake number salad incoming
but look at this 3 target sustained gain
the raid vv changes
mut on 3
quiet oar
Lingering dn
Lingus DN?
balmy condor
and then the top one muts on 3 but lingering ctw
it's just a full 1% better
what the hell
game sucks
bronze pike
very cool and epic and no more fok in single target
whispyr whispyr
bronze pike
now that sin is bufed tomorrow
balmy condor
yeah but ctw is a very big number
bronze pike
memes aside
i hope we see some calss changes in 11.1.5 ptr soon
its kidna strange to not see anything
but also kinda refreshing in a way?
balmy condor
that last number on the right column
is damage per execute
so like the damage you get on a cast
fan of knives during lingering is like 20% less damage
but half the energy
vv mut is 70
hm
okay maybe we're safe and the fok doesn't survive
I think I see an error
golden loom
pausechampington
zinc frost
okay maybe we're safe and the fok doesn't survive
Music to my ears
balmy condor
okay fixed
vv is fokless again
false alarm
and by false alarm I mean VV builds are now 10% better in sustained 3 target apparently
crazy
subtle tundra
cap
subtle tundra
anyways ill have you jacked off
balmy condor
not that sustained 3 target is a thing that exists atm
but like
kinda hate how much generators are getting shuffled around
subtle tundra
bro
balmy condor
subtle tundra
why isnt mugzee nerfed already
i just want prog to be DONE
fucking 5 day raiding
i want to QUIT
already
balmy condor
any bright ideas for fok/mut changes before I do a pull request
subtle tundra
ergh
grim jay
i want to QUIT
Just step down
balmy condor
speak now or blame me later
subtle tundra
Just step down
cant cause WW is mandatory on mugzee prog
so id be fucking griefing my raid
grim jay
so id be fucking griefing my raid
If I learned one thing in life
Its that someone needs to be the asshole
ripe carbon
i wish my guild raided more than 2 days
quiet oar
so id be fucking griefing my raid
Grieftorch my Beloved
grim jay
i wish my guild raided more than 2 days
I cant anymore
ripe carbon
we do have more then 1 team but all teams are 2 day raiding
ripe carbon
i dont tihnk im good enough for the higher tier guilds tho
quiet oar
Grieftorch was so nice
ripe carbon
and i like my current guild either way
quiet oar
Gireftorch looked cool
quiet oar
You got bonus DMG for dying baboons
rotund oak
true,it was special
quiet oar
and it had a nice bug
grim jay
Beacon was even better tho
quiet oar
grim jay
I liked the big nuke
grim jay
Do me
rotund oak
hardy dagger
Beacon crit rng
indigo mulch
God i hated the beacon rng crit 😐
grim jay
Peak gaming was draught of souls with MA
quiet oar
rotund oak
grim jay
People complaining about trinkets with casttime
Probably never had the chance to enjoy draught
quiet oar
I think i had Elisande trinket
grim jay
That shit was heavy rng
quiet oar
und Garden Council thingy
grim jay
3 iirc
warm vortex
So
TiL
If you do the newspaper wq and vanish aftrer agro
They will just hit a random player
In this case it was just a druid that was afk
grim jay
Unlikely
hollow talon
!up
prisma monolithBOT
grim jay
quiet oar
Unlikely
Had this
for Nighthold
And the Riad after
Playing the Kiljeaden Trinket
on Kil Jeaden
patent iron
at what point in the expo will our energy recoupment become more stable?
balmy condor
never
patent iron
it just feels so bad having almost no energy in raids
drifting cloud
balmy condor
that's what you signed up for when you decided to play assassination
patent iron
trueeeeee
patent iron
Waiting to seconds to backstab
oooft that's dark
lavish portal
we changing some talents after buffs?
quiet oar
If it was an aoe Trinket
balmy condor
we changing some talents after buffs?
in raids yes
indigo mulch
We don't run VV in hybrid?
balmy condor
hell fucking no
patent iron
in raids yes
what are we picking up in raid?
indigo mulch
VV
balmy condor
that's what the pins are for
patent iron
that's what the pins are for
forgive me sempi
is kingsbane effected by Zoldyck Recipe?
balmy condor
yes
patent iron
affected*
indigo mulch
I'm actually curious to see if i can almost keep up with some other classes on ST now. :c
patent iron
is it worth holding a kingsbane by some seconds if you're about to hit the 35% window?
balmy condor
if you're not gonna miss a cast, yes
same amount of casts but one of the casts is better = more better
viscid spear
So no more Master Assassin? 
balmy condor
if you miss a cast, that means whatever you held for has to be more than 2x the value
patent iron
just depends on the opportunity cost
balmy condor
think of each kingsbane as 100 damage or whatever
if you get 5 kingsbanes in a fight
that's 500 damage
if you decide to hold one of the kingsbanes for 30 seconds to get zoldyck, and you still get 5 casts
then you're at 530 damage
(oversimplified here)
patent iron
no no i get it
balmy condor
but if you holding that kingsbane means you get 4 casts
you're baseline at 400
which means the kb you held has to make up the difference, or get you >100 extra damage
and that basically never happens
you'd need like a damage amp on a boss or a large spawn of adds for caustic damage or something
golden loom
Also if its close to 35% it probably means you get the final ticks of Kingsbane in execute range either way
Like if you cast it at 39% or smthin
lavish portal
when we delay a kingsbane for a dmg amp, our DM and KB not synchron, so we delay our next DM until KB is rdy right?
viscid spear
Will you be updating the guides today, Lord Whispyr?
balmy condor
Will you be updating the guides today, Lord Whispyr?
yes
viscid spear
Well you have about 12 hours before I can play so take your time
balmy condor
when we delay a kingsbane for a dmg amp, our DM and KB not synchron, so we delay...
situational, but most of the time yes
viscid spear
Looking at somr Mug'zee prog this week if everything goes well 
patent iron
will Vicious Venoms become viable now?
golden loom
Something I was wondering about is delaying Kingsbane for an extra global after shiv to have lingering kick in for the last tick
Or I guess you would probably delay it by 2 globals to make sure
cause it gets instastacked anyways during deathmark
balmy condor
Something I was wondering about is delaying Kingsbane for an extra global after ...
already does this
tribal stag
@balmy condor Any APL updates and if so do you have a branch anywhere yet?
golden loom
Ah nvm then
balmy condor
still working on it
golden loom
I thought it missed by a second
tribal stag
Any fun changes?
balmy condor
I thought it missed by a second
dm -> 16 remaining
shiv -> 15 remaining
kb -> 14 remaining -> kb has 14s duration
with natural delay the kb tick overhangs by around 0.1 seconds and gets hit by lingering
golden loom
Perfect
balmy condor
it's always been like that and it's actually been theorized backwards that we should be going shiv-dm-kb instead in order to get extra lethal dose uptime
but that's never panned out
tribal stag
That's what I figured. I appreciate you keeping the APL realistic for humans
balmy condor
having to check this
but across 4 other builds
and then across like 7 situations
too many talent combos too many sims
brain hurty
tribal stag
Can you sim the one where I die halfway through to something because I'm dumb?
balmy condor
yeh simming 2 min patchwerk, on it chief
tribal stag
Wow 2 mins. Longest I've ever lasted
last skiff
can you sim when I forget to get caustic ?
tribal stag
cant forget it if you never take it off
indigo mulch
wait does this mean its fok is still a gain? D:
tribal stag
it means sneezing and missing a global is more impactful
balmy condor
wait does this mean its fok is still a gain? D:
no, it means vv doesn't fok in single target
but I'm struggling to find the cringe on add spawns
cause this blasted fuck lingering2
is just randomly crushing in like low target cleave
but it's giga ass in single target
so I'm like
what the fuck
but once I figure out what the hell the bot wants from me that should be the end
indigo mulch
Fight against the machine
tribal stag
bleed fok lingering2 opened its vault already
balmy condor
yeh I mean the machine is correct
it's just up to me to figure out why it's correct
tribal stag
is that suffix target count?
balmy condor
suffix is the iteration of this particular optimization I'm on
tribal stag
I was going to say... I am confused if it's target count
viscid spear
The high performer
It's not about the size of the Tiny Toxic Blade, it's how you use it
indigo mulch
quiet oar
It's not about the size of the Tiny Toxic Blade, it's how you use it
So Never is the answer?
quiet oar
except when @grim jay finally accepts my calls
quiet oar
Are you me?
Me You are?
viscid spear
Me You are?
You me are?
quiet oar
Are me you?
viscid spear
Por que no los dos?
tribal stag
Come on guys let’s keep this channel for asking questions already answered by the pins
viscid spear
We're the Temu Mugz'ee
viscid spear
Come on guys let’s keep this channel for asking questions already answered by th...
I'll be at work stalking this channel
patent iron
does the poison damage from VV stack or just refresh?
tribal stag
I’ll be at stalking working at you
winged sun
@spice spire yo cuh, is it worth pressing mutilate at 2 targets next reset or still same
subtle tundra
but once I figure out what the hell the bot wants from me that should be the end
he wants freedom...
balmy condor
does the poison damage from VV stack or just refresh?
neither?
it's just bonus damage on mut
patent iron
oh... fun
indigo mulch
indigo mulch
Whispyr slowly descending into madness
balmy condor
it's marginally better in dslice
and then gets stomped in cleave
I don't
fucking
get
it
viscid spear
Whispyr slowly descending into madness
Man's the guide writer for Assassination; we're well past sanity
nova kelp
this is using fok on x target count with the VVenoms build?
balmy condor
it's ctw related bullshittery
indigo mulch
thats a pretty big difference lmao
balmy condor
thats a pretty big difference lmao
that's the thing
it's only a big difference
in one sim type
on 2 builds
legit every normal sim
it's perfectly fine
except this one
indigo mulch
So where is it getting those extra damgurs from? lol
balmy condor
casting fok less
shadow gyro
Spectral gamblers 4p says when you would lose winning streak you have a chance to instead gain maximum stacks. Anyone know how big that chance is?
indigo mulch
lingering16 i assume is casting Fok? or is that the one thats casting fok less?
balmy condor
70%
balmy condor
lingering16 i assume is casting Fok? or is that the one thats casting fok less?
16 is casting it more than 2
twice as much in fact
in this case actually nearly 3x as much
and yet it's the closest
indigo mulch
eh
nova kelp
wait
balmy condor
waiting
subtle tundra
dont wait for him
indigo mulch
So wait, its trying to proc as many CTW as possible then?
subtle tundra
i love feet so i understand you
balmy condor
So wait, its trying to proc as many CTW as possible then?
(buff.clear_the_witnesses.up&spell_targets.fan_of_knives>=3-buff.lingering_darkness.up-!talent.vicious_venoms)
that's the problem child
indigo mulch
So if CTW and lingering darkness is up and there are 3 or more target it uses FoK while having VV specced oO
balmy condor
if ctw is up, it uses fok if there are 3 targets, reduced by 1 if lingering darkness is up, or if vv is unspecced
indigo mulch
almost got it lmao
subtle tundra
how is boolean if theres a 3. 3 is not a bool
3 is neither a true nor a false. its 3
balmy condor
the variables are bool you knobhead
indigo mulch
subtle tundra
ok but how does it handle numbers and bools in the same equation..
i wouldnt be able to
balmy condor
clearly
indigo mulch
I'm horrible at math.
nova kelp
man I gota do maths all day at work for people who try to average a group of %'s
I'm here to push buttons
indigo mulch
But, i'm still curious to why its dealing 1.2% more damage than baseline
subtle tundra
is 3 true or false?
balmy condor
3 is a number
tall atlas
3 is a number
True
indigo mulch
Only 0 is false i believe everything else is true right?
sonic schooner
Is 0 nothing or something? We cant divide by 0 so it s something but if we had it no any number its nothing. Filthy 0
tribal stag
0 is also a number. What that’s considered is up to the implementation
subtle tundra
0 is not a number
balmy condor
buff.clear_the_witnesses.up -> if up 1, if not up 0
& -> and
spell_targets.fan_of_knives>=3 -> if greater than equal to 3 -> 1, if not then 0
- -> minus
buff.lingering_darkness.up -> if up 1, if not up 0
- -> minus
!talent.vicious_venoms -> if talent 0, if not talent 1
nova kelp
is the the absence of a positive or negative count
tribal stag
0 is not a number
Yes it is
balmy condor
capiche?
sonic schooner
0 is supposed to be à number that represent nothingness. So it s à thing that represent nothing. I hâted phylosophy at school
indigo mulch
👍
nova kelp
personally i'm not worried about 0
I'm worried about people who say 4.25 as
"four point twenty five"
instead of
"four point two five"
balmy condor
spell_targets.fan_of_knives>=3-buff.lingering_darkness.up
if you have 3 targets it evaluates to 1
if you have 2 targets and lingering is up, it evaluates to 1
if you have 2 targets and no lingering, it evaluates to 0
si?
yes?
indigo mulch
yes.
balmy condor
si
indigo mulch
Oui
nova kelp
qui
balmy condor
bien
subtle tundra
nein
indigo mulch
oder ja
tribal stag
If you want to be assholes, in this case 0 is a voltage below a certain threshold in some little compartment in a magic lightning rock
subtle tundra
magic lightning COCK
balmy condor
my nickname in highschool
subtle tundra
whispyr how do i talk to girlssssssssss
tribal stag
Tell them about zero
nova kelp
this is the assassination channel, we talk to boys and catboys
balmy condor
no clue, haven't needed to do that in a decade
subtle tundra
this is the assassination channel, we talk to boys and catboys
i can flirt like crazy with men
tribal stag
Someone’s gotta put the ass in assassination
nova kelp
Glutes for the sloots
balmy condor
aight fuck it I've been staring at fok casts for 3 hours I cba anymore it'll be 0.5% worse for 2 builds in a sim type no one sims
gg
subtle tundra
SHOULDER DAY THOUGH TODAY I WILL FUCK SOME WEIGHTS RIIIIIIIIIGHTTTTTTTTT UPPPPPPPPPPP
nova kelp
actually now that I think of it though, the first time I talked to my current partner of many years was during a cooking nerd rant about how people don't like mud cake no matter how much they say they do
mate got hit with the check the pins
that's a rough day for whispyr
tribal stag
That’s because I put $500 in the pins for him
nova kelp
everyone always asks - where new pin
noone asks - do you need help making pin?
balmy condor
everyone always asks - whispyr is guide updated
no one asks - whispyr have you checked your bank account I wired you 37 thousand dollars
nova kelp
HAHAHAHAHA
hearty reef
only 37k?
tribal stag
whispyr have you checked your bank account I wired you 37 thousand dollars
hearty reef
weak wish man
balmy condor
whispyr have you checked your bank account I wired you 37 thousand dollars
checking
it's not there
hearty reef
not cool to lie on the internet bro
nova kelp
if you'd like I could wire you 37 thousand gold in wow
tribal stag
It’s the one with the routing number for the Bank of Nigeria right?
You emailed me yesterday
nova kelp
I wonder how much gold you'd make if every sin player gave you 37 thousand gold
maybe like 100kl
tribal stag
At least 37k
balmy condor
if you'd like I could wire you 37 thousand gold in wow
that's like 3 dollars I'll take it
golden loom
banned for RMT
nova kelp
I remember a time where wow gold was worth more than the venezuelan dollar
tribal stag
I sent you $50 but I expect a Boolean lesson
balmy condor
hour of coaching is $40, so deal
tribal stag
As long as it’s not LUA
balmy condor
tribal stag
:barf:
balmy condor
lua good
nova kelp
lesson number 1 - 3 is a bool and 0 is a number
nova kelp
hahahahah
balmy condor
I'm already confused
indigo mulch
-2 is true as well!
nova kelp
also fok on 2 targets is an increase but not on 3
indigo mulch
nova kelp
I shouldn't do that, we'll get more sims popping up
balmy condor
-2 is true as well!
did you know that the word "recursion" actually comes from an acronym?
So the r stands for recursion
and the r stands for recursion
and the r stands for recursion
and the r stands for recursion
indigo mulch
I've blocked Recursion from my brain.
balmy condor
and the r stands for recursion
and the r stands for recursion
and the r stands for recursion
nova kelp
rofl
indigo mulch
If i don't see it, it dosen't exist.
nova kelp
recursionofl
indigo mulch
ez
tribal stag
Error: Maximum call stack depth exceeded
kindred timber
guys with 5% st buff in assa you think will be good in m+build on bosses?
indigo mulch
kindred timber
back to outlaw
nova kelp
going outlaw is all good till your tank pulls 36 things
hearty reef
cause that's how math works
tell us more
royal lantern
cause that's how math works
jokes on you, insuck at math so ny numbers are different 
hearty reef
royal lantern
going outlaw is all good till your tank pulls 36 things
tanks dont do that
they only pull big after everyone used cds
nova kelp
tanks dont do that
they only pull big after everyone used cds
TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUEEEEEE THO
tribal stag
Just drop something on the person out dpsing you and kill them. You proc cheat death and live while they cry about their overall
Problem solved
Rogue #1
nova kelp
just stand on the monk and supply them with so much visusal clutter they kill themselves with a badly timed whirling dragon punch
indigo mulch
2.561mil on ST seams really good if that's the new baseline tho
royal lantern
just stand on the monk and supply them with so much visusal clutter they kill th...
is ww even playing that rn
nova kelp
if not I'm doing something wrong
quasi coyote
what talents would we drop for blindside in m+ build u guys reckon
indigo mulch
TTB
soft surge
how long till servers up
balmy condor
tell us more
so in a base 10 system, we have 10 digits before adding a new place right, and these are sequential, so 0 through 9, then the next number up you reset and tick up the next spot, which means you go 08 -> 09 -> 10. repeat again you get 18 -> 19 -> 20 -> 21
So when I say that 5% won't fix a 25% difference, what I'm saying is that 5 is less than 25, with 25 being the threshold for "good" single target damage in m+. In this case, since the difference between 5 and 25 is a difference of a factor of 5, it's perceived as very large, and that leads to the natural response which I received which is "back to outlaw", or back to a spec that does single target damage
hearty reef
bwo is typing a lot 😭😭
balmy condor
hope that clears it up
royal lantern
so in a base 10 system, we have 10 digits before adding a new place right, and t...
im calling the mods
balmy condor
im calling the mods
you rang?
balmy condor
I'm above the law
royal lantern
you rang?
@balmy condor told somebody to go outlaw
im sure that hate speech is not allowed here
tribal stag
so in a base 10 system, we have 10 digits before adding a new place right, and t...
Now do the numbers in binary and the words in Spanish
hearty reef
mods powertripping on their right to yapp
patent iron
i can flirt like crazy with men
i've got some news for you my boy
wide sleet
so in a base 10 system, we have 10 digits before adding a new place right, and t...
To long didnt read.
Explain it like im 5yo please
patent iron
you might be living a lie
subtle tundra
yeah i am
balmy condor
Now do the numbers in binary and the words in Spanish
no es un problemo, porque hablo un poco espanol ya que mi novia es mexicana, un momento
royal lantern
To long didnt read.
Explain it like im 5yo please
assa boss dmg in m+ big popo, buff wont change that
nova kelp
if Pinocchio says "my nose will now grow" what happens?
indigo mulch
But, assas's overall damage is good so i think its an ok trade-off.
I'm guessing it will be even better after the patch
hearty reef
only overall matters
wide sleet
assa boss dmg in m+ big popo, buff wont change that
So... just buff us even more. Easy fix
hearty reef
boss dmg is a cope
royal lantern
boss dmg is a cope
found the boomkin
tawdry mica
only overall matters
indigo mulch
Yes sir
hearty reef
found the boomkin
patent iron
are we likely to get a rework in 11.2 ?
indigo mulch
I hope not.
patent iron
why laff at me
nova kelp
mate we're lucky to get a patch note
indigo mulch
Are there things that could be better? Yes? But i think the overall gameplay is pretty decent.
Maybe that's just me.
indigo mulch
New PoE2 patch soon tho. Raid logging enabled.
empty pagoda
are there any talent changes after buff? I don't understand it from the pin:
First it's written:
Spec Tuning
With no talent swaps or logic changes!
Then:
Talent wise, for bleed build in m+ you'd be silly to not run blindside now
hearty reef
hermano está escribiendo
royal lantern
hermano está escribiendo
no french
nova kelp
pretty sure that's german
indigo mulch
are there any talent changes after buff? I don't understand it from the pin:
Fi...
I'm sure you do if you read all of it.
nova kelp
thats all i need
I can offer you kinda annoying mark, and random coins
the rest is up to you
vestal cliff
ye both is fucked
royal lantern
pretty sure that's german
hast du meine Mutter beleidigt
patent iron
pretty sure that's german
i take it you've never read thai
vestal cliff
hat da jemand meinen namen gesagt
nova kelp
i take it you've never read thai
I eat thai food all the time
subtle tundra
New PoE2 patch soon tho. Raid logging enabled.
poe2 🛌
nova kelp
I love yiros
patent iron
I eat thai food all the time
you ever had Sum Yung Gui?
nova kelp
and kweesa dillas
balmy condor
Now do the numbers in binary and the words in Spanish
en un sistema de base-1010, nosotros tenemos diez numeros antes de agregar un nuevo lugar, verdad? Y estos son secuencial, entonces 0 al 1001, el siguiente numero tu recompones y subes el siguiente lugar, lo que significa 1000 -> 1001 -> 1010. Repites para 10010 -> 10011 -> 10100 -> 10101
entonces cuando digo que 101 no arreglara un differencia de 11001, lo que estoy diciendo es que 101 es menos que 11001, con 11001 no se que es un threshold para "bien" soltero dano en m+. En este caso, ya que la differencia entre 101 y 11001 es una differencia de un factor de 101, se considera muy grande, y eso me lleva a la respuesta natural que recibi, que es "volver a outlaw", o volver a una especializacion que haga soltero dano
espero que esto lo aclare amigo
indigo mulch
but why
tawdry mica
subtle tundra
soy un chulo
vestal cliff
en un sistema de base-1010, nosotros tenemos diez numeros antes de agregar un nu...
now german pls
nova kelp
that's a lot of fake numbers in that there
indigo mulch
because I have free will fuck you
Not for very long, your president seam to be sorting that out.
balmy condor
subtle tundra
can i get some?
vestal cliff
real
indigo mulch
rel
nova kelp
I roto i te punaha turanga-1010, he tekau nga tau i mua i te taapiri i tetahi waahi hou, tika? A he raupapa enei, no reira ko te 0 ki te 1001, ko te tau e whai ake nei ka titohia ano e koe ka piki ki te waahi e whai ake nei, ko te tikanga 1000 -> 1001 -> 1010. Ka tuaruatia koe mo te 10010 -> 10011 -> 10100 -> 10101
Na, ka kii ahau karekau te 101 e whakatika i te rereketanga mai i te 11001, ko taku e kii nei he iti iho te 101 i te 11001, me te 11001 kaore au e mohio he aha te paepae mo te "pai", he mamae noa m+. I roto i tenei take, i te mea ko te rereketanga i waenga i te 101 me te 11001 he rereketanga o te tauwehe o te 101, e kiia ana he tino nui, a ka kawea mai e au ki te whakautu taiao i riro mai i a au, ara ko te "hoki ki te ture", ka hoki ki tetahi tohungatanga e mahi kino ana.
Ko taku tumanako ka whakamarama tenei i taku hoa
indigo mulch
Can't say it without the prowder
subtle tundra
https://tenor.com/view/glorp-booty-shake-glorp-throwing-it-back-glorp-twerk-gif-15728514058189514652
nova kelp
I translated it for any kiwi's in the chat
nova kelp
that is indeed maori sir
balmy condor
do people actually speak that
nova kelp
lol, when I was a kid, nearly LITERALLY noone
nova kelp
but then we did a thing
te rao maori
and now a lot of people do, but yeah, easily less than a million
nova kelp
last I was even in nz there was like a total of 6 million
indigo mulch
RIP langauge.
nova kelp
hey, that's a lot for maori
legit when I was a little kid, there was like 4 people who spoke it at all
not even joking
then the gov was like "yo, we probably shouldn't let the language actually die hey"
empty pagoda
I'm sure you do if you read all of it.
Sorry, i have mental disability, can't understand it.
nova kelp
and somehow... basically everyone in the country went "huh prolly not hey" in unison
then suddenly, everyone has a whanau, and talk about the mana, things are tapu instead of bad
copper hazel
Sounds similar to what happened with Welsh
dapper zodiac
ive read someone said our buffs are live today not tmrw is that true?
nova kelp
and we all laugh at overseas travellers trying to politely say whakatane
dapper zodiac
alr
quiet oar
so that's weekly reset in NA
Is that why they say American first?
indigo mulch
Sorry, i have mental disability, can't understand it.
Big buffs to Mutilate & Ambush
Old 2pc is dead → Switch to 4pc ASAP
Sims:
Single Target: +5%
Hybrid Dslice: +4.3%
Bleed Dslice: +4.5%
m+
Bleed M+: Blindside is now mandatory
Raid:
Raid ST: 2/2 Vicious Venoms = +0.7%
Drop Imp Garrote, MA, Arterial for VV + TTB in ST raid
Optional: Keep Arterial for AoE instead of TTB (+0.5%)
nova kelp
they say america first because otherwise their new godking will tariff you
quiet oar
they say america first because otherwise their new godking will tariff you
God King skovald?
NO ODYN I TOO HAVE PROVED MY WORTH
midnight mist
en un sistema de base-1010, nosotros tenemos diez numeros antes de agregar un nu...
stfu
nova kelp
NO ODYN I TOO HAVE PROVED MY WORTH
I've got the best shield, the biggest shield
royal lantern
NO ODYN I TOO HAVE PROVED MY WORTH
MY CLAIM TO THE AGEEEES
quiet oar
IF THOSE MORTALS DONT GIVE THE AEGIS BY CHOICE, THEY WILL SURRENDER IT IN DEATH!!?
balmy condor
stfu
it's aight, I know that no matter what language I speak I'll never be as cringe as you
royal lantern
damm
lean plover
nova kelp
he just doesn't like baguettes
balmy condor
I mean is this not cringe
thick juniper
Please don’t fight
golden loom
What are you doing to mister noggenfogger??
balmy condor
feels omega cringe to me
nova aspen
zac 
balmy condor
I'm just pointing out facts
midnight mist
I mean is this not cringe
which part
balmy condor
which one
nova aspen
midnight mist
ye sure
nova kelp
i have a champion noggenfogger on my rogue, but a hero one on my ww
balmy condor
so like the first one is the fact that you aren't even killing spreeing cause lord only knows you're playing sub in raid
midnight mist
thats true
balmy condor
the second and third one being tagging realz's twitch to bitch about softcapping for the billionity thousandth time
nova kelp
zac the secret technique
midnight mist
i did change the stream title to not killing spreeing when that was pointed out
balmy condor
and the fourth one is less cringe and more just wtf
which is like
how do you remember how many underscores your name has
midnight mist
the second and third one being tagging realz's twitch to bitch about softcapping...
Ain't in discord so I'm not breaking any rules 
balmy condor
I'm not saying you're breaking any rules
midnight mist
- I like to imagine he gets a notification everytime I turn on my stream
nova kelp
to be fair, he has resorted to the peach coloured name, so his chosen spec is rogue
balmy condor
I'm saying you're cringe as shit
midnight mist
tired girder
Mom dad please don't fight
nova kelp
FITE
nova aspen
whos mom here
nova kelp
USE POCKET SAND
nova aspen
nova kelp
TAKE HIS SHOES
rotund oak
<a:worryrun:759137496926781472>
just opened a monster and eating leftover pizza,blocked messsages indicate some short of pirate madness 
nova aspen
just opened a monster and eating leftover pizza,blocked messsages indicate some ...
blocking zac is based
unfortunately i need him for his WA pack
midnight mist
Sap feels the need to mention he blocked me everytime I talk in here
rotund oak
unfortunately i need him for his WA pack
thats also based rogue trade,i do hold pride in making my own auras for me but i do thank LE and Whispyr for theirs
midnight mist
Idk what this means
balmy condor
Im trying to revive my dev that seems to have gone bye bye
maybe you're not the person that should be trying to revive people if they said "if it's zac please do not let him revive me"
dunno
nova kelp
duck and weave!
hit him with the most devastating move in all of professional wrestling!
The surprise roll up!
midnight mist
maybe you're not the person that should be trying to revive people if they said ...
I was joking I don't think he blocked me
Or wdym
red schooner
maybe you're not the person that should be trying to revive people if they said ...
Do you just have a Zac folder on your computer or something
balmy condor
he talks to plenty of people
balmy condor
nova aspen
he talks to solo a bit
balmy condor
wasn't he recently in outlaw
nova aspen
doesnt he hang out in outlaw more than the other 2
balmy condor
yeh
midnight mist
wasn't he recently in outlaw
Not really
midnight mist
He sent a blue note cause they forgot to add it to the blue note
balmy condor
is what it is
nova aspen
nova kelp
The outlaw guys are too busy talking about "KIR is best! HO is best!" to notice
warm vortex
he just doesn't talk to zac specifically
Can’t blame him
midnight mist
he just doesn't talk to zac specifically
My bad, can't handle people not being happy about objectively bad changes
Bro offended when people aren't worshipping his work
What can I do
I should be like guy
And lick his feets on cd or something
balmy condor
discord is 95% negativity I couldn't give a shit what you think or how negative you are
nova aspen
warm vortex
Idk who we are even talking about
nova kelp
I should be like guy
do you mean go on a super angry arc for a year then play sub and zen the fuck out?
warm vortex
But as the mental punching bag of my guild I’ll gladly dish out what I’ve been served
balmy condor
but the way you act doesn't really make you approachable either
so I'm not sure why you're surprised
normal mist
discord is 95% negativity I couldn't give a shit what you think or how negative ...
I'm the 5%
midnight mist
do you mean go on a super angry arc for a year then play sub and zen the fuck ou...
I have been saying on cd since s3 that current outlaw iteration is litteraly the best its ever been
warm vortex
I'm the 5%
Royal you are a sweetheart
normal mist
Mostly in general/transmog
warm vortex
We all love royal
midnight mist
but what you want me to do, continue glazing it
warm vortex
Best person in this discord hands down
vestal cliff
royal is the best
midnight mist
im just gonna talk about whats wrnig with the spec
rotund oak
flux is BiS,always was
normal mist
Thanks guys, I agree
warm vortex
At the absurd transmog prices
rotund oak
even in pvp,the man has a reputation being a good guy
midnight mist
so I'm not sure why you're surprised
im not
midnight mist
im just surprised he was so mad at me he stopped working on rogue
normal mist
even in pvp,the man has a reputation being a good guy
Haven't been there to meet the boys in a while
warm vortex
It’s so expensive to change mogs
rotund oak
Haven't been there to meet the boys in a while
thats what i was implying yo 😄
nova kelp
To be fair, sometimes it doesn't take a lot to get ignored by people in disc
balmy condor
what an insane sentence
midnight mist
im just surprised he was so mad at me he stopped working on rogue
This is obviously a joke whispyr I know he doesn't even know me
balmy condor
I mean yeah
rotund oak
come back and boost my mage,i want my glad mount
balmy condor
still insane
warm vortex
What is even going on
balmy condor
but you do you zac
warm vortex
Can we just go back to talking about the bis list and pissing Whispyr off
balmy condor
hope gally dies soon and you're out of raid prison
lusty kraken
im just surprised he was so mad at me he stopped working on rogue
so what you're saying is that he keeps killing spree as it is to spite you? 
distant plinth
buffs live on NA servers now or?
midnight mist
probably
red schooner
Can we just go back to talking about the bis list and pissing Whispyr off
When's the haste % breakpoint again
balmy condor
buffs live on NA servers now or?
midnight mist
idk in this discord you are only alloowed to glaze the devs for some reason
distant plinth
whats the time in us now? haha
midnight mist
cant fathom they make mistakes
balmy condor
whats the time in us now? haha
5
midnight mist
even when they are legit afk doing nothing
vestal cliff
i would love to meet a dev and ask them why they thought deathstalker and fatebound would be good talent trees
quasi coyote
for the bleed build with no kigsbane is it just same roto but shiv twice during deathmark?
soft surge
when do i get to use 4 set
red schooner
for the bleed build with no kigsbane is it just same roto but shiv twice during ...
CT in single target as well
indigo mulch
Did they merge the assa changes into latest yet? D:
red schooner
Cos no amp poison
warm vortex
Also I thought it took a bit for Assa damage to start in M+
God I miss that with BM
quasi coyote
CT in single target as well
tru makes sense
balmy condor
Did they merge the assa changes into latest yet? D:
dapper cradle
I love realz so much he’s never done anything wrong. Only good things for the spec.
lusty kraken
i would love to meet a dev and ask them why they thought deathstalker and fatebo...
it's simple, they didn't have any better ideas
warm vortex
Who even is realz
distant plinth
hahahaha i wonder how many times u have to post this
indigo mulch
Raidbots?
warm vortex
I bet he hates fakez
balmy condor
not in game not in sims mate
soft surge
only 1 hour this week 
indigo mulch
not in game not in sims mate
golden loom
are we getting a catalyst charge this week?
rotund oak
I love realz so much he’s never done anything wrong. Only good things for the s...
was very skeptical for him even being a dev but the man proved himself.Lots of hatred towards him from the pirates for sure
midnight mist
Who even is realz
He was the rogue dev in df
soft surge
was df pre metoo or after
warm vortex
He was the rogue dev in df
Oh I’d hate to be that
Imagine how many death threats would get sent your way
soft surge
because the outlaw dev was jailed after metoo iirc
warm vortex
Not as bad as being a community manager
nova aspen
whispyr, what is the setting in plater that changes the nameplate color when a buff is active? like mark changing the nameplate to purple?
or is it not plater
dapper cradle
Zac doxxed him and sent him too many dms and scared him away
balmy condor
whispyr, what is the setting in plater that changes the nameplate color when a b...
under mod tab
dapper cradle
That’s why no rogue changes
warm vortex
Fucking hell I can’t imagine the harassment from both the community and blizzard trying to molest you
nova aspen
ahhh ok
midnight mist
Zac doxxed him and sent him too many dms and scared him away
I sent him one dm
1 (one)
deep gyro
warm vortex
I sent him one dm
Sure
viscid spear
Molest?
midnight mist
Before he started being mad at me even