assassination

[subtle tundra]

💀

[balmy condor]

💀

[subtle tundra]

floodgate sucks

the shreddinators can shred my buttcheeks

anyways

i got 2x dogshit vault

and very rare ring on fucking paladin

😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠

[amber brook]

!Wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[subtle tundra]

I need to beat one out from anger

[rotund oak]

ive got 2p and my dagger craft,gonna send heroic LOU later tonight

gonna cook some keys as well

[subtle tundra]

surely this week drops 2h weapon from mythic, house of cards, and mugzee neck

and ill be the one to receive them

[rotund oak]

[subtle tundra]

i currently have 2 normal tier pieces from raid

and my raid leader says im happy cause i got loot

???????

no little guy im happy cause im not playing assa

[rotund oak]

aint no way with raid loot rogues get house of card

[balmy condor]

we did all of normal and 7/8 heroic today and had ONE venerated tier drop

[subtle tundra]

blud doesnt know

[rotund oak]

give me ur guildmasters name,tell him to open his warmode

i wanna ask him something

[wild horizon]

Hi, was it Pacemaker trinket that was not working properly in sim ?

[subtle tundra]

he was glad good luck

[balmy condor]

signet of the priory

sim on nightly/latest and it's fixed

[red schooner]

I got it for some reason

[wild horizon]

Thanks

[rotund oak]

is that supposed to make me scared? 🤣 🤣

buddy u got no idea

[subtle tundra]

i am. he boosted me in pvp and pvp seemed fair for once

[rotund oak]

ill wipe his face on the floor

(respectfully)

[tall saffron]

hmm trinket or neck

[golden loom]

I mean you are probably wearing myth track priory rest of the patch

[subtle tundra]

trink

mugzee neck better

[balmy condor]

take the neck just to flex on people that you were mentally damaged enough to ignore the trinket

[subtle tundra]

ok whispyr have a rimjob

an asshole massage maybe will make you happier

[rotund oak]

[balmy condor]

it would

[sonic schooner]

???

[red schooner]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[dreamy gale]

is crimson tempest worth in ST?

[balmy condor]

only if you don't have amp poison

[dreamy gale]

we always got that shiiiiiiii

ty

loved the stream today btw

[balmy condor]

glad to hear

[vale lantern]

Except in bleed build 😄

[grim jay]

Bl🤮 🤮 dbuild

[static glacier]

Does VV / blindside not factor into the equation

[vale lantern]

It’s actually kinda fun not having to worry about my enh shaman killing my kingsbane target

[grim jay]

Just dont have an enhancer

[balmy condor]

no?

[dreamy gale]

is this bleed build publicised anywhere

[balmy condor]

why would generator damage matter

[balmy condor]

yes, in the wowhead/method guides for the last 2 years

[vale lantern]

That’s the problem I always have one

He’s great though always enjoy the big damage numbers for me to just pop the mobs with sudden demise

[dreamy gale]

ooo im gonna try this bleed build sounds interesting + i hate kingsbane cant lie

[vale lantern]

Super fun bleed everything dm keep shiv debuff up profit

[static glacier]

Because I’m on 2 hrs sleep and brain damaged

[vale lantern]

Less single target dps but overall not to much of a loss in aoe and no risk of losing kingsbane

[rotund oak]

its not that far behind hybrid

[waxen anchor]

Guys should i take bis myth dagger from vault or just the 4 set spike?

[balmy condor]

whatever your sim says

[static glacier]

Did you craft a dagger yet?

[rotund oak]

(if u take 4p over myth dagger ill jump out of screen and slap u)

[waxen anchor]

well obviously 4 set is better, but in long term whats the chance i get the bis dagger in myth? Like mythic 3rd boss has a chance and then vault again ofc

[rotund oak]

the faster u take the wpn the better

u will get a 4p set

very fast very soon

a wpn might not drop for a month

[waxen anchor]

yeah thats what i was thinking

[static glacier]

If this is ur first high ilvl dagger it’s a no brainer, if you crafted a wep already you can ignore the offhand and 3 ilvl MH upgrade and get tier

[rotund oak]

take the wpn,be done with it

its common sense

[static glacier]

Depends how likely you are to kill rik reverb mythic + how many rogues you have

[waxen anchor]

but i did craft the dagger. So its not that big of a spike cuz its offhand. But still being done with bis dagger at week 2 is pretty good.

im solo rogue

[royal lantern]

our warlock got a giga cursed vault

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392807916543017000/1349285546341433354/image.png?ex=67d28b96&is=67d13a16&hm=c9e1c556de8e6cab2eb777e1fae4a0887156f042f3570b66c15f7e1492d50bbe&

[static glacier]

Tough one, do what your heart says is right, remember it’s still 3 ilvls mainhand too

[waxen anchor]

yeah

[rotund oak]

isnt sigil giga strong

for locks that is

[faint path]

Junkmaestro's Mega Magnet how to use that shit trinket...

[balmy condor]

during lingering

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-chat-cat-fall-hello-chat-cat-gif-24961178

[analog field]

Is there no pandemic in CT ? do i have to let it fall off completely?

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-chat-cat-cat-rise-cat-jump-gif-790403686475706815

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-gif-21483615

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-life-cat-life-living-cat-alive-gif-25177993

[vale lantern]

My computer synced those gifs so the bottom one jumped into the top one

[normal mist]

Ahahahahaha

[faint path]

Oh got it but I think thats not good trinket at all compared to [Suspicious Energy Drink] hero

[balmy condor]

sim

[rotund oak]

u kinda wanna aim for house of cards,ritual knife from delves,priory trinket,heart of azerok(maybe)

[balmy condor]

ritual knife isn't in loot table

[subtle tundra]

i have heart of azerok in my vault

is that good?

[rotund oak]

[balmy condor]

not really great

[red schooner]

I feel like we need a bot that just says the word sim at random intervals

[balmy condor]

it's meh

[subtle tundra]

just shoot me man

[rotund oak]

its meh,nothing great

sad to hear ritual knife is removed

[subtle tundra]

put the gun to my head and pull the trigger i dont care man

[analog field]

It is in your guide in wowhead in tier b Whispyr

[balmy condor]

sounds right yeah

[red schooner]

I'm running a hero track azerokk but it simmed slightly higher than spyglass so... Eh, better than nothing

Like 0.1% gain but, I've not spent crests yet

[rotund oak]

it should win 639 spyglass yeah

its about equal at 645 iirc

[river nebula]

Vault has got me. Long term m track chest or dagger ?

[balmy condor]

do you have a mainhand crafted

[river nebula]

Yehh

[balmy condor]

are you gonna do mythic rik

[river nebula]

Yeh and I’m only rogue

[balmy condor]

then tier

[red schooner]

how do I kill the other rogue in my team so that all the dagger drops go to me

I need to know

[uneven marsh]

Hey guys, how do you keep Deathstalker's mark on boss 2 ?
As we keep switching bosses, I'm doomed to lose it (besides vanish).
Do you just proc a Darkest night buff just before switching and then consume it on the 'new boss' after?

[vale lantern]

convince them to play outlaw its easier

[river nebula]

Yeah I think I agree. Thanks!

[red schooner]

Which boss in particular are you having issues with?

[uneven marsh]

Boss 2

[red schooner]

Cos they'll then kill themselves instead of me killing them?

[balmy condor]

when they jump in the middle your next darkest night goes onto the other boss

[vale lantern]

nah cause they dont wanna use daggers this tier from what i hear

[red schooner]

Oh, boss 2, I misread, yeah just swap in the clash

First normal kill I was a dumb ass and thought I couldn't go on both bosses in the clash for some reason

In my defence...

I got nothing, I'm dumb

[uneven marsh]

Thanks guys.
And why the hell do people get splatter on this boss? Exclusively for the clash parts ?
Seems off

[balmy condor]

yep

literally just that

[static glacier]

yooooo this helmet is crazyyyy

[uneven marsh]

Eye of kezan though

[static glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-fishing-lake-pond-boat-gif-9638578035609960749

[uneven marsh]

Crazy how internal bleeding is this bad in a fight where we have like 3x10sec of splatter usage and splatter still outperform it.
Splatter OP or internal bleeding sucks?

[blazing pumice]

both

[red schooner]

Splatter baseline when?

[static glacier]

IB is pretty good tbh

Spatter is just insane

If they weren’t a choice node we’d take IB very frequently

[balmy condor]

IB is very mediocre

[static glacier]

It’s like 3% no?

[balmy condor]

bit less

[static glacier]

We counting in the extra dam from lethal dose?

[balmy condor]

generally if you're between 2.5% and 3% from caustic, caustic is better

yes

[subtle tundra]

just sim caustic and ib

[balmy condor]

cause the actual IB damage is like

1.3%

[subtle tundra]

and thats how much ib doess

[static glacier]

Idk why I remember it being high on rash

Prolly jus

Zoldyck

[balmy condor]

downtime boss

[static glacier]

nvm im big liar

its 1.5ish, i retract my previous statement and choose to make no further commentss

at this time

[subtle tundra]

😼

youre so humble

[storm hedge]

Yo Whispyr what you got from Vault?

[storm hedge]

Not bad. Not great either.

Gonna catalyse I assume?

[balmy condor]

ye

those legs + max cresting my chest/hands + 2 upgrades across leg/shoulder

and I can equip 4 piece

champ chest/hand max out at 658

and then I take the myth shoulders and the legs to 665

and that's good enough to swap

need to farm more m+ for crest save tomorrow

belt is down horrendous

[storm hedge]

I mean belt is a low stat slot so like w/e. You seem to have a good start to the season. I had this as the best option

[balmy condor]

yeesh

I thought my vault sucks

jeez

[storm hedge]

Ye and that was the best option. imagine how the rest looked like

But tbh had a great week 1 since I got this bad boy

[haughty verge]

had to pick this hope its good

[balmy condor]

yeah yeah

[tawdry mica]

I got this one from a random delve like veteran track and it simmed better than my myth arakara egg lol

[hearty reef]

Why did you drop top crit ring?

[storm hedge]

It's the 2nd best passive trinket (even tho it can't go to max ilvl)

[tawdry mica]

Ye it seems decent, I was just surprised a blue gear would sim better than a max upgraded former bis

[royal lantern]

@balmy condor new stupid question

[balmy condor]

wdym

[royal lantern]

does hero house of cards beat hero/mythic priory Trinket

[balmy condor]

no

[royal lantern]

or are the overall just the same

[balmy condor]

priory is equal or slightly better

well once you fix your crit

[royal lantern]

so mythic prioriy is basically the "best" trinket

[balmy condor]

yes

[royal lantern]

i care about secondarys when the "ilvl go uo" phase is done

[hearty reef]

you had the theater crit heavy ring

[balmy condor]

yeah

I still do

[hearty reef]

Dropped as in from equip

[balmy condor]

I have mast/vers, mast/haste, crit/mast, crit/vers and crit/mast

oh

idk simmed higher

[quaint spindle]

Oi for my delvers. What role do ya think works best with brann and rogue

[opal plume]

hey guys so 4p is shit ?

[warm vortex]

Does anyone have the spreadsheet of how much the tier sets increase dps for each clsss

[opal plume]

could take 4 p now but is it value if 2+2 is better atm xd

[warm vortex]

Just sim

[red schooner]

Normally I just go with healer brann

[storm hedge]

I go with a healer but tank can work as well

[quaint spindle]

Thanks gents

[red schooner]

DPS brann is kinda crap, tank brann was meant to be solid but blizzard detected fun

And they said no

[jolly vault]

I go tank for trash and healer for bosses

[storm hedge]

that's the way if you are not lazy to switch

[jolly vault]

I was forced because Brann is a lil bitch dying and standing in all the shit he can

[opal plume]

ok so i dont need that chat here xd

[lavish geyser]

is there a bug on dummies, where you just cant get splatter sometimes?

[balmy condor]

I mean you could've read the big bold letters in the pins

[lavish geyser]

cause I just cant rn

[balmy condor]

but you asked a question

and got an answer

not our fault you don't like it

[opal plume]

i did till have questions tho

and JUST SIM idk haha i did already

[balmy condor]

okay

so are you averaging 662+ across your tier

and/or did it sim higher

[opal plume]

im not averaging 662 sadly

[balmy condor]

then guess it's not gonna beat 2+2

[opal plume]

what is this madness bro

why blizz

[sacred schooner]

they will nerf s1 set probably

[balmy condor]

Old 2 piece was insanely strong

[sacred schooner]

after wr

wfr*

[warm vortex]

Imagine not having a super powerful 2set and 4set hehe

[opal plume]

ye and new is insanely weak

[balmy condor]

New is actually on target

[opal plume]

it is ?

[lavish geyser]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[balmy condor]

It’s between 4-5% for the 2 piece and the 4 piece each

That’s on target for tier bonuses

The old tier did the same % increase but it did it by going like 6 and 4

Instead of 5 and 5

So 4 piece got dropped insta

And 2 piece lives on

[opal plume]

ye

[earnest remnant]

Miss my 26% tier

[balmy condor]

But generally speaking like 10%ish overall for a complete tier bonus

Is right on the money where it should be

[opal plume]

so play sub til gear comes ? xd

[balmy condor]

Why

Assa is really good

[opal plume]

with 4 set ?

maybe i dunno

[balmy condor]

What’s wrong with 2+2?

[faint path]

2+2 is better for single target I assume so better for m+

[balmy condor]

2+2 is better everywhere

[opal plume]

nothing wrong but i think its not the intention to play 2+2 over 4 set xd

or is iot

[balmy condor]

Wdym not the intention, that’s just how numbers work out sometimes

[opal plume]

yeah

[balmy condor]

How long did we use edge of night

Or transmitter

[jolly vault]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1346745738532491296/New_Project.jpg

[balmy condor]

Spymasters

[opal plume]

xd

[balmy condor]

Legendaries in any expansion

[subtle tundra]

WHISOY+TRKI ILL

MEOW MEOW

[balmy condor]

Azerite powers often came with ilvl losses

Benthic gear

Corruptions

Like you slap a bonus effect onto an item, and the item level of that item becomes skewed

That’s just life

You can’t have item A with stats and item B with stats + bonus be equal by definition

[subtle tundra]

🫣

[balmy condor]

Just happens that we have a good bonus on one and a slightly weaker bonus on the other

Completely normal and happens constantly

[jolly vault]

Slap Assa rogue on Whispyr and he is gonna get intimate with it

that's life

[balmy condor]

Your name is “Slap Assa rogue”?

[jolly vault]

😳

unexpected retaliation

[shy axle]

yes

[jolly vault]

did not know we are on Warr discord with this defensive

[sharp viper]

it could be

[balmy condor]

I’ll fucking kiss you bud, me and my girl bisexual it’s gonna get messy bring a god damn mop

[subtle tundra]

H O T

[sharp viper]

warr discord is big burly half-naked men complimenting each other's huge weapons

[brazen cypress]

damn

[sharp viper]

what did you expect

[jolly vault]

I take credit for turning the whole chat gay for a moment

[balmy condor]

This is average assa chat experience

[sharp viper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1292477218462634115/vlc_2024-10-06_08-22-07.gif

[marble hemlock]

you just want someone to clean for free dontcha

[sharp viper]

moment? that is normal here

[earnest remnant]

all tier as sub

[jolly vault]

time to play low keys with 0 addons because computer

[balmy condor]

I just like beautiful people

Is that so wrong

[marble hemlock]

not at all

[balmy condor]

Top, bottom, man, woman, neither, both, up, down, left, right, start a b a b analog stick clockwise

It don’t matter to me

[sharp viper]

if you like beautiful people, come check out https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/226403529894526987

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-cowboy-finger-gun-pointing-moves-gif-17170914

[balmy condor]

No

[sharp viper]

https://tenor.com/view/kiki-sad-gif-20873072

[subtle tundra]

i think id make you so wet

im basically all of those

[earnest remnant]

seli out here making me talk with Korean rogues about programs and shit (i offered to ask them)

[balmy condor]

I’ve only been in there like 4 times and each time it’s because some unhinged mole rat said some insane shit that I have to go whack their peepee about

[balmy condor]

Bricked

[balmy condor]

I have my personal #transmog, it’s royal DM’s with half a transmog going “what do”

[sharp viper]

xD

[balmy condor]

(I may have done that 5 minutes ago)

[sharp viper]

I cannot deny stuff like that happening, so I'm glad you and and koffing are ready to peepeewhack

[royal lantern]

the transmog version of putting something into raidbots

some random gear, send royal, get a answer 4min later

[balmy condor]

When our guild declines on apps, we say that we’re sending them to the penis explosion chamber

And I think that’s beautiful

[balmy condor]

Yeah it’s like droptimizer for transmog

He sends back a wardrobe for you to farm

[marble hemlock]

[golden loom]

I guess god wants me to suffer and do more than one +10 key per week

lowkey the back is kinda sick, also rolled avoidance

[hearty seal]

could cata the shoulders tho

[golden loom]

already used both my charges week 1

[red schooner]

could cata next week

[golden loom]

shoulders do drop from first boss though

[balmy condor]

Okay but you could cata

[golden loom]

doing some simming but yeah its probably shoulders

[jolly vault]

simp*ing

[golden loom]

yeah I guess fully upgraded catalyzed shoulders are a 1,7% upgrade while the back is a 1,1% upgrade out of the gate

[harsh violet]

At what point are we replacement scardyns grace?

[twilit flint]

The latest wow logs dps charts gonna get us nerfed

Am scurd

[shy axle]

if i am midfight and i got all cds, would you vanish first to have buffed gar up with dm/kb or would you vanish at 7 of kb for the critbuff and use the buffed gar then?

[red schooner]

When a new trinket Sims higher

[red schooner]

Vanish so that master assassin is active during the end of kingsbane

I forget the exact duration but 6 seconds left I think?

[indigo mulch]

hmm, bleed or hybrid this week? :c

[warm vortex]

Crab build

[royal lantern]

what is different from last week

[warm vortex]

Foritf

[indigo mulch]

Crab build!

[warm vortex]

I assume he is doing lower

[indigo mulch]

Do we only strafe while dpsing?

[obsidian bear]

supposedly like a 200k increase in dungeon slice with this relic thing. Does any1 know if bait?

[indigo mulch]

I mean i'm only doing 10's so

[warm vortex]

No you make your talent tree look like a crab

It’s not good at all

Like KB with no spatter or death mark

[royal lantern]

brother im spamming that adadadadadad 300000x a minute

[indigo mulch]

I believe in the crab build.

[clever sapphire]

if you are doing 10s than nothing changed from last week to this week since 10s always have fort and tyr

[warm vortex]

Oh

Foot lady affix I fuess

Also I miss feint so much

I say this every time

Not that hunter has bad defences just

Feint my beloved

[patent gust]

i like how 4p is a damage loss to 2+2

[warm vortex]

Yea
Remind me what is the Assa 2 set this season

I haven’t looked at anything rogue in a few weeks

[shy axle]

does 2p procc from dot dmg?

or just initial

@warm vortex 3% dmg per stack, 10 x stackable on rup/env/ct

x% chance to remove it

[clever sapphire]

just initial, it was from dot dmg at the start and it was horrible

atleast afaik

[shy axle]

ok ty

[warm vortex]

Oh fair that sounds eh

BMs rn is

Fucking insane

As is their 4 set

[shy axle]

its quite nice i`d say. Yeah, i am always switching between rog and hunter for years, couldnt bother with another bm tier

needed a break

[warm vortex]

Fair

I got my BM 2set this morning after not getting any tier from vault

Oh my god being able to go

BS —> BS —> BW

And have three frenzy stacks

Feels amazing

[tawdry mica]

You know what is NOT amazing

Having to run two S1 tier pieces until max heroe 4p tier

[warm vortex]

Poverty

[tawdry mica]

Man it feels bad

[warm vortex]

Starvation

[tawdry mica]

Yeah that too

[warm vortex]

But yea this ain’t good either

[tawdry mica]

[shy axle]

same level i guess

[golden loom]

idk I dont mind it, personally hate the thought of replacing everything you spent a season working for week 1 of a new patch

[warm vortex]

Fair I get that but like the new stuff is cool and I wanna use it

[tawdry mica]

Ye this feels really bad

[jolly vault]

I hate the fact that I don't have it and cannot get it on a respectable ilvl simply because I started this season

[warm vortex]

It depends on how last season eas

Like

When I have to lose my BM 4pc and ESPECIALLY the 2PC next season

Imma feel like ass

[strange sleet]

assination?

[golden loom]

idk loot is such a vital piece of any MMO so not getting excited over stuff cause it will just get replaced soon anyways feels weird

[strange sleet]

Well then you are going to hate this patch I guess

since everything is pretty easy to get

except stuff from Mythic raid

I guess

[golden loom]

idk game is fun still but its just a gripe of mine, and thats why I kinda like that 2+2 is good

[strange sleet]

It's wathever to me. I feel like I used s1 tier enough. But I will feel the same way in some time with s2 tier too so

[storm forum]

Only time upgrading gear feels bad for me is when I lose the fun stats. Like losing crit on assa or haste on priest. Damn you Sim, I know they're 20+ ilvl upgrades, but I'm losing like 100 ilvl worth of fun here.

[warm vortex]

This

Like omg I’ve felt what a PI + lust + on use + CD burst feels like

On BM

Oh my god I be mashing my buttons

[tawdry mica]

2+2 isn't bad if you worked hard for yor 639 s1 tier, it feels good keeping them but at the same time it's like they're "holding you back" until the newer on 665. Even though in terms of damage is roughly the same, having an old piece on the 3rd or 4th week of the season is ass

[warm vortex]

Assassination?

[tawdry mica]

asesinato

[golden loom]

yeah I like it being that way though, like why should LFR gear replace my old season myth track

upgraded heroic makes sense

[faint path]

Jesus lack of energy in single target sooooo much ffs

[tawdry mica]

ye

[subtle tundra]

🥹 fuck yeah

[tawdry mica]

My raid mates having fun using abilities when I'm struggling to throw a single Mutilate

[hollow river]

its a beautiful thing 🥹

[real pike]

is it worth taking a champion track house of cards, even if it sims well? I got offered mythic boots which seems like the better long term play

[subtle tundra]

y'all dont appreciate assa being slow and predictable gameplay enough

mean you can focus on other things much more

[warm vortex]

You can most likely farm house of cards

[warm vortex]

True

[red schooner]

Sometimes I wanna go fast tho

[warm vortex]

Big bonus of playing BM

[tawdry mica]

Like watching tiktok as my energy recharges

[red schooner]

The need for speed takes me

[tawdry mica]

That's tru

[warm vortex]

Just

Play outlaw then

[humble verge]

feels unlucky man

[warm vortex]

KEK

[real pike]

isn't it from raid?

[red schooner]

I said the need for speed not the need to drink bleach

[warm vortex]

Yea
Normal raid

[tawdry mica]

I'm loyal to assa

[potent lance]

i should pick which one?

[warm vortex]

Sims

[real pike]

oh you mean farm the champ one

[potent lance]

all of them are upgrade since its new gears from new season

[warm vortex]

Hands look good tho for tier if it’s mythic I guess
Idk tho

[potent lance]

is 5k crit a good finger for assassin?

xD

[real pike]

I only have one mythic slot so I feel like that's the play, even though I already have hero boots in bag

[potent lance]

is this even good for assassin? at all?

[red schooner]

Which one is biggest upgrade tho

[manic quartz]

bless the gods

[red schooner]

Nah, too blessed, too many good slots which you'll never see again

[humble verge]

man

[red schooner]

Gotta spread small blessings out over the weeks

[humble verge]

none of the items in vault are base upgrades for me

[real pike]

ooohhhhh I forgot about dinars, I can just use that for house of cards

[tawdry mica]

🗣️ 🔥

[humble verge]

[manic quartz]

well i mean, i can get cards from raid, if i took chest i could get 4set now, simming at but leaning towards peacemaker

[golden loom]

I would grab pacemaker without thinking

[real pike]

guys is there a reason the guide says to craft boots specifically after dagger? like if I get lucky with boots and don't find decent bracers for example, should I craft bracers instead? or is there a reason I'm missing

[tawdry mica]

Then craft bracers if you're unlucky with them

I ended up crafting like 3 or 4 pieces in S1

[real pike]

yeah sweet, thank you ❤️

[tawdry mica]

Just don't rush the crafts except the dagger

sparks are very limited as of now 💔

[real pike]

hmm problem is I currently have boots as my s1 craft with writhing banding, and got boots as my only myth track vault slot

but the long term play is surely to take the only mythic item in vault

[fast mural]

11 Prio nice damage KB

[manic quartz]

if you were me, which one you would take.

[golden loom]

could farm priory for a hero track signet

[subtle tundra]

seaforium cause mythic dungeon item

[jolly vault]

As a resident hater of on use trinkets, neither xD

[tawdry mica]

I would do that even if it's not the best decision but that's me personally

[manic quartz]

got it, its a dps loss for me

[subtle tundra]

??

are you not smart

[jolly vault]

no

[golden loom]

dps loss vs skardyns??

[subtle tundra]

its literally macro'd into your main cooldown. its an active thats as passive as it can get

yeah transmitter sucks.

[manic quartz]

yep at ilvl 649

[subtle tundra]

but thats not transmitter

[golden loom]

are you simming on nightly/latest @manic quartz

[manic quartz]

yes, its likely because it gives me crit instead of mastery

[nova aspen]

wait

what

[wary relic]

Crazy

[empty adder]

Oy

Assa better than sub ??

[nova aspen]

definitely not in keys

[wary relic]

To all the people calling me out the other week always hold assa stocks and stop dooming

[nova aspen]

apparently in raid

[peak bobcat]

Says who

[nova aspen]

archon

[red schooner]

Read the post, it's because of limited mythic data and most of it being on vexie

[peak bobcat]

Archon might be the most dogshit website ever created

[viscid spear]

Bleed spread go brrrr

[nova aspen]

true vexie op

[golden loom]

reading? nah we dont do that here

[red schooner]

And vexie plays well with sin

[red schooner]

Shit mb

[red schooner]

I'll fix it. when do I replace old 4p with new 4p

[peak bobcat]

When raidbots.com tells you to

[red schooner]

The answer is always sim

[wind portal]

fwiw the data in that post is already outdated, you can click the link in the article and the graph is very different

[nova aspen]

yea but

blizz will balance based on that post

like they always do

goodbye friends

[golden loom]

they will balance it around week 1 data on first boss which just has everything lined up for assa to be insane ?

[peak bobcat]

Assas prob needs a nerf

In aoe

[golden loom]

aoe add fight with a 45 second damage amp where we can send full duration cooldowns

[manic quartz]

Sure when i can pust 15mil dps like Frost DK's

[red schooner]

Rip arcane mage based on new graph

[nova aspen]

unholy and boomkin doin 20m aoe

[red schooner]

Below aug

[nova aspen]

i peak maybe half that

but my gear suks

[manic quartz]

i think i've seen 10mil from my self or around that mark

[peak bobcat]

Bleed build does crazy damage every pull

[nova aspen]

and then u do tank damage on a boss

[peak bobcat]

Someone else’s job fr

Get you a windwalker

[rocky ruin]

hmm

[nova aspen]

why would wowhead even post that shit when they know its basically 1 boss data

post heroic at least

[faint path]

in keys single target energy lacking is aaaa loooooooooooooooooot

[red schooner]

Generates clicks

[wind portal]

wowhead = rogue haters confirmed

[nova aspen]

[subtle tundra]

good

[peak bobcat]

assassination perfectly balanced

[subtle tundra]

now let our damage be balanced around not having infinite energy

so we can do good ST in m+

[marble hemlock]

cuz it generates a lot of views

unfortunately

its a reflection of the wider community

[warm vortex]

Try TTK

[wind portal]

prayge for st sin buffs, would be pretty nice then

[subtle tundra]

as it all ever is, money

[warm vortex]

It made it a bit easier for me

[marble hemlock]

no one actually LIKES making posts like these, or creating bis lists, or tier lists

[warm vortex]

Having that 2 second longer envenom buff

[tawdry mica]

Assa energy recharge +1000% confirmed?

[rocky ruin]

What could they buff more envenom dmg? More Auto Attack Dmg? Maybe Kingsbane

[warm vortex]

Envenom buff would just be an overall buff, not an ST buff

[peak bobcat]

Ambush buff

[nova aspen]

envenom buffing is dangerous

[manic quartz]

kingsbane does 20000% more dmg when hitting single target

[tawdry mica]

hire this guy

[warm vortex]

Technically

That’s a hyper aoe bufff

[peak bobcat]

It only goes one target

[wind portal]

deathmark duplicates dots 20 times

[warm vortex]

The spatter hits multiple targets

Not the KB

[manic quartz]

i know thats the joke

😄

[rocky ruin]

still capped at 50

[warm vortex]

Sure that’s what they alllllll say

[tawdry mica]

Ambush executes enemies under 99% hp

[warm vortex]

Idk how you’d buff Assa ST in dungeons tbf
Unless you like

Hyper buff mutilate or something

[wind portal]

its funny how we have a 2min mostly st cd and were one of the worst at it still

[golden loom]

what does that mean

other specs also have cooldowns?

[subtle tundra]

considering the buff after is insane in aoe, not true

[wind portal]

yea but most cds buff all of your damage

[warm vortex]

I think he means it goes on a single target but like

Asssa ST is good

Assa M+ ST isn’t

[wind portal]

isnt it the bottom simming st spec atm?

[nova aspen]

its better if u unspec SB

[rigid sphinx]

Were legit numéro 1

[nova aspen]

for MA

[golden loom]

bro they made the scrambler untradeable

[warm vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-turning-head-confused-cat-rizalalthur-orange-cat-behavior-gif-10491959385063137392

[golden loom]

comparing patchwerk sims between specs is useless

[warm vortex]

Good ol infinite stars logic

“It sims highest in Patchwerk so it must be the best corruption for raiding”

[red schooner]

What do you mean that 5 minutes on a target dummy doesn't equate to a raid environment?

[warm vortex]

Maybe I’m wrong tho

[golden loom]

unless its literal patchwerk in naxx I dont wanna hear it

[warm vortex]

Yea

Mfw all raid bosses aren’t 100% uptime meaty hunks

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wtf-oh-hell-nah-gif-4183712492046775434

[nova aspen]

vexie is prob the closest thing to a dummy

[warm vortex]

Yea she dummy thicc

[nova aspen]

minus the adds

[warm vortex]

I’m sorry

[nova aspen]

padding adds

[golden loom]

except it has a damage amp that benefits assa more compared to most other specs

[warm vortex]

Assume cause Assa burst

[golden loom]

its the type of burst

its not like fury that does its burst in a few seconds

but its a longer duration burst so assa gets all its cd value in it

[warm vortex]

Yea

[golden loom]

and the also lingering during damage amp

[warm vortex]

What other classes are like that acc

[nova aspen]

if u get that damage amp in execute range hole e

[rigid sphinx]

Only boss dmg

[warm vortex]

BM 👀

[rare plinth]

is this serious the best m+ speec atm ?

[nova aspen]

if u think our ST is bad

hole e boomkin

[rigid sphinx]

Kekw bommies haha

[nova aspen]

20m aoe

500k st

ouch

[warm vortex]

Spatter is better than bleed

The build I ran would replace IW for SB and DB + SBS for TTK + Dashing

[faint path]

I wish they nerf our aoe buff our single

literally our single so shitty in keys

[warm vortex]

And I wonder why I stopped playing boomie

[lofty junco]

waiting for raid or just take the dagger?

[warm vortex]

There’s a problem

How can they do that

[rare plinth]

you mean this one?

[warm vortex]

Cause how do they buff our ST for ONLY M+

[nova aspen]

how much nicer is dashing i wonder

[warm vortex]

No?

That replaces much more than the ones I listed

[warm vortex]

Tbh dashing is just

There

It’s like

I have a talent point left over

Because to remove SBS you remove DB and vice versa

[nova aspen]

i run DB SBS SB and TTK

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[nova aspen]

the one in this spreadsheet

[warm vortex]

I mainly take TTK for the easier ST

[rare plinth]

sry where can i find that listed specc?

[warm vortex]

Make it yourself?

Just copy the first build

And change the listed talents

[rigid sphinx]

I mean you could do that your self with talents

[warm vortex]

Here have a shittt doodle that shows the changes

[nova aspen]

im so used to sbs im afraid to drop it

[faint path]

literally I did but it seems like not that much difference still lack of energy a lot

[golden loom]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

[warm vortex]

Fair

[nova aspen]

i just noticed there is no decent neck in the dungeon pool

[warm vortex]

But tbh it’s only rlly there for faster build time

[warm vortex]

No crit mast neck?

[nova aspen]

nope

[restive falcon]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tir87dWsEeJMXeYrNUZpDD

2pc still higher than 4pc F

[golden loom]

[warm vortex]

I checked on him

Pin is doing well

[nova aspen]

feels nice in keys 10 and below

when ur with 2 other pumpers

[warm vortex]

Yea

[nova aspen]

even with it sometimes i feel like i can barely get to my spatter window

in 7's that is

[warm vortex]

Just play with like 2 pure single target gamers

Get like 2 Windwalkers in an St build

[nova aspen]

i guess its really not that bad

u just send out 3 ruptures

then fok

[warm vortex]

Think harder not smarter
….
Wait

[nova aspen]

and rupture again?

or garrotes

hmm

i might try it

cuz DB is trash right

[warm vortex]

Doom blades?

[nova aspen]

gaining a pt there

[warm vortex]

Yea

[nova aspen]

yea

[warm vortex]

Dead fucking talent like

Pure “rip bozo” energy

[tawny bloom]

chat is it ok to go 2p2p? else i would wait for next week vault

[warm vortex]

Sim

Idk tho

[nova aspen]

but u still go SBS in raid setup?

[tawny bloom]

well my sim says not better for st and hard to proper sim m+

[warm vortex]

What else would you spend the talent points on

[golden loom]

Infinite damage and sbs+doomblade are bleed effects for Lethal Dose

[nova aspen]

true

ill try dropping sbs db for MA and dashing

in keys

idk

[warm vortex]

Yea it was fun

[opal plume]

with 2+2 still bleed build right ?

[warm vortex]

Then again played only 1 dungeon as Assa this season

[warm vortex]

You know what I’m gonna say

[nova aspen]

dashing might make ST feel nicer

[warm vortex]

S i m

[opal plume]

xD

[warm vortex]

For me it’s TTK

Having a 2 second longer enven

[opal plume]

ye thought ppl already did

[nova aspen]

yea i already run that

but i also run SB

[red schooner]

You're gonna say yes, send it, run the tier set

I know it

[nova aspen]

so like, to try to stay sub half energy

its rough

[warm vortex]

No sim yourself
If you are on abt vault or smth

Sim is dif from char to char

[warm vortex]

Wait what

Do you run IW

Too

[nova aspen]

no

[warm vortex]

Wait what do you run then

[nova aspen]

the highest simming one

[warm vortex]

If not DS where does the other point go

Oh fair

[nova aspen]

in fuu's spreadsheet

[warm vortex]

Fair I cba to look atm

Got 5 hours of pure lab sessions ahead of me

[opal plume]

i see but i guess its better to play bleed build wit 2+2 cause of the 2 set dmg buff

[warm vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-sunakook-tired-exhausted-gif-24687868

[opal plume]

ill try to sim it

[golden loom]

well the builds arent really designed around that

just play the build

idk

its good

its all the same anyways

more aoe less st

more st less aoe

nothing matters, just blast

[real pike]

what are you guys using to track Lingering Darkness for the dry shiv? don't think Whispyr has put anything in his WA pack?

[warm vortex]

Our eyes

[real pike]

sounds complicated

[opal plume]

ye did 3 mil overall gues its enough

[red schooner]

You can duplicate the darkest night thing on weakauras and change the buff to track lingering darkness

[golden loom]

u can duplicate the darkest night tracker anmd replace the aura to lingering

[real pike]

thanks guys am useless with weakauras, will give that a go

[golden loom]

can send a screen shot once I get out of combat

[red schooner]

It's called outlaw now

[real pike]

it really is as simply as waiting until your first DN when shiv is back up and hitting a shiv on the way to the 7cp Envenom right

simple*

[golden loom]

shiv comes up during lingering darkness, and then you get darkest night and use them both while lingering is active

[manic quartz]

i forget to do that like 6/10 times but its no biggie

[real pike]

like you don't actually need to track LD really, cause it's going to be up when shiv comes back up

[red schooner]

It's a small buff it ain't the end of the world.

Not like it fully fucks your rotation

[real pike]

just need to make sure you do it before LD falls off I guess

[golden loom]

ye

[real pike]

I can already tell I'm going to muscle memory the shiv before the following KB and get upset with myself

[manic quartz]

literally me, if i remember to do the DN+LD+Shiv, then i automatically use shiv before KB and not the last 8 seconds

[candid seal]

Is it worth changing set tier 619 (breaking it) for non set pieces 640+ ?

[manic quartz]

sim

[candid seal]

Always sim basically?

[manic quartz]

y

[candid seal]

ayt

[restive falcon]

we dont get rid of 2pc2pc til mythic tier? at least for my i think

[storm forum]

I wish I never stopped using pencils now

[warm vortex]

Hey that’s my job to say

[red schooner]

Now you can find a new job

[warm vortex]

Blocked
Reported
Called the police
Sent a SWAT team
Told god
Called the national guards

Consider the lesson learnt

[manic quartz]

i got 658, 668 & 655 of the new tier and getting HC set piece now to go 4pt is dps loss for me atleast

[candid seal]

Real question is, who are the real ones with goblin rogues in a goblin patch?

[real pike]

so I've just sat on the dummy for a bit and sometimes you get unlucky with timings and you have 3 DsM stacks when shiv comes up and don't get to DN before LD falls off - I guess in these scenarios it's best not to force it and just do 2x shiv on the KB

[nova aspen]

u might be doing something wrong because i never have a bad timing

[warm vortex]

Sadly I ain’t on rogue this season tho

[nova aspen]

unless i lose uptime

maybe 1 time ive missed the window

[red schooner]

My rogue has been a troll since he was made and he shall be a troll when he dies

[real pike]

I'm still pooling/waiting for pandemic envenom

[red schooner]

I do it sometimes because being fully energy starved feels bad

[real pike]

so I could 'rush' the rotation and get low on energy/trigger a thistle tea

[real pike]

yah this is why I do it, I just prefer how it feels

I know it's not a gain any more

[red schooner]

Yeh, numbers wise not a gain but I want it to feel good

[real pike]

[nova aspen]

yea ur not supposed to pool anymore

unless ~5 sec on kb

so if ur pooling in lingering darkness its wrong

[red schooner]

I like the way it feels so... Sometimes, a little bit of pooling. As a treat.

[golden loom]

tier 11 delve with delvers bounty really does look like a real treasure room

[shy axle]

damn, nemesis spawn thingey has a 4h cd as soon as it is in my bag

[spice spire]

Blocked
Reported
Called the police
Sent a SWAT team
Told god
Called the national guard

[shy axle]

sad, wanted to get the hero track trinket

[real pike]

yeah to be fair pooling in LD would actually be a small damage loss rather than no difference

[warm vortex]

I remember this the first time I saw it

Then I got

6 gold

And brann took the rest

[real pike]

makes sense to rinse your energy in LD and then pool back up to 200 after it drops off if you really want to play like that

[golden loom]

got a useless fkin trinket

[warm vortex]

Toxic asshole

[warm vortex]

Skill issue :/

[nova aspen]

ur safe to pool after it though

but u cant pool during or u might miss that juicy dry shiv i guess

spoeaking of LD i need a WA to track that

[real pike]

yeah I just hate how it feels when you go through all your thistle teas and sit on no energy

[red schooner]

I really need to sort out my lingering tracker

[viscid spear]

Brann will be a raid boss in one of the next expansions

[real pike]

I just did this

works fine

[red schooner]

But I had to do a full game reinstall so.... Gotta fix all my add-ons and WAs I guess

[nova aspen]

i dont think it should be that bad in raid build

[real pike]

I've noticed it being worse than last season for sure

but then again that should improve as gear improves

[golden loom]

why would it be worse?

[real pike]

in theory

[golden loom]

nothing changed

[red schooner]

It happened to me on the pure ST boss that I forget the name of

[nova aspen]

u might just throw a rupture on a random add, that would fix it

[real pike]

I don't have data but anecdotally I definitely feel more energy starved this raid than last

[red schooner]

Other bosses I can just do a bit of rupture energy regen and I'm chilling

[real pike]

and others have said the same thing

[red schooner]

I'd say the same

It's weird cos ye, nothing should have changed

[spice surge]

Probably longer fights

[red schooner]

Might be it TBF

[nova aspen]

fights are 3x longer yea

[zenith elm]

Already timed two 12 today, we pumping boys 🫡

[red schooner]

I did have one pull on boss where I somehow burnt all teas instantly though, which was weird.

[golden loom]

spammed macro without cast sequence?

[red schooner]

Well, instantly meaning over like a minute

I don't use the macro I should

But I am resistant to change

[golden loom]

[subtle tundra]

you know you can also just delay shiv by 3 seconds

if somehow it doesnt exactly line up

[red schooner]

I probably fucked something up somewhere

Wasn't a big deal, still had it up for kb

[warm vortex]

Me with thistle tea

[real pike]

think the problem is the other way round - I don't get to DN quick enough before LD falls off

nothing to do with shiv timing

[red schooner]

Thistle tea auto pop still feels bad. I know it isn't a number difference but... I still don't like it

[warm vortex]

At least you can play around it

Unless they make it so your char randomly gets thirsty and just drinks a tea for no reason

[subtle tundra]

then youre doing something wrong

[agile geode]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[red schooner]

He's chugging constantly

Addicted

You can see him twitching when he has no charges

Waiting for that next hit

[spice spire]

I’m seeing ur pfp as ur rogue and laughing at the imagery

[real pike]

ye I think we've agreed pooling during LD is the issue

[subtle tundra]

bruh youre pooling??

bruh

[real pike]

it feels better 🥹

[subtle tundra]

youre ill

[real pike]

but ye during LD it's a damage loss but outside of it it's just even right?

so long as I never cap on energy or thistles

[red schooner]

If pooling is wrong then why does it feel so right

Answer me this

[humble verge]

cumge

finally something drops

[warm vortex]

Me when the police arrest me for drunk driving

[grim jay]

If you just macro it

Delete the tea in your wa

And unbind tea

You wont see it

[subtle tundra]

well what if you m+

dummy

[red schooner]

I'll see it in my heart

But yeah I know it doesn't matter but I'm still going to gripe regardless.

We all have our hills to die on, this is mine

[nova aspen]

[red schooner]

Accurate

[golden loom]

meoow

[red schooner]

[nova aspen]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/delve-trinket-hotfix-amorphous-relic-significantly-buffed-375810?utm_source=discord-webhook

wats dis

is it gud

[subtle tundra]

no

[lofty junco]

waiting for raid or just take the dagger?

[nova aspen]

[warm vortex]

Holy put some clothes on lady

[red schooner]

I know, she'll catch a chill

[lofty junco]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

[nova aspen]

half naked chick

[lofty junco]

i thought TW was heroic?

[spice spire]

It’s only heroic during Timeways

Normal during the rest of a sdeason

[lofty junco]

ah well now i ahve prior+house of card

fuck

[nova aspen]

now u can play sub

[lofty junco]

https://tenor.com/view/pokke-dead-pokke-cringe-meme-excited-gif-15316901116564932061

[spice spire]

I’d never

[lofty junco]

anyway. anyone with a answer?

[icy ridge]

higher ilvl weapons are typically the play even if secondaries aren't ideal on it

did you sim it?

[lofty junco]

yeah the weapon comes on top. just wanted to be sure

btw do we delay house of the cards until next deathmark?

[spice spire]

Yes

You can also craft a weapon tho

And oh doesn’t have a ton of value

[lofty junco]

i crafted the weapon already

[red schooner]

Time for some gilded to craft the weapon at 675

[spice spire]

Yeah if you have a 675 weapon already the 658 really isn’t the take unless nothing else is good for you

[red schooner]

Ye 675 is easy enough recraft upgrade depending on your gilded availability

[spice spire]

Well 21 from 11s last week and 21 this week

In delves

Means you’re just 18 off which is 2-3 7s

[lofty junco]

well in that case its either 3rd t-piece or weapon then

[warm vortex]

I feel like I didn’t spend my crests properly tbh

[spice spire]

I have my guildeds mapped already

Until week 4

[lofty junco]

was this week new spark or new catalyst?

[warm vortex]

I’m just gonna spend my crests on items I most likely won’t replace

[viscid spear]

Am I supposed to wait to use Signet? I use it in the opener but since my Crit is higher it uses that instead of Mastery.

[warm vortex]

Just get more mastery

[red schooner]

My raid leader said if I spent catalysts of crests last week he'd hit me

[viscid spear]

During the opener my Crit is higher because of Master Assassin, otherwise my Mastery is higher

[red schooner]

Apparently I ain't to be trusted

I dunno why I'm perfectly reasonable

[warm vortex]

Not as bad as me

We use DKP (yes in 2025) and on the spreadsheet I start with -9,999,999 every season

It’s my penalty for existing apparently

[spice spire]

Wat

You should be sending with dm

Which means ma is gone

[subtle tundra]

why would ma matter

ma isnt stats, its crit %

[dull monolith]

is assassination hard to play in mythics?

[warm vortex]

No

Enven spam

[dull monolith]

hmm

do i have to tab target to do well tho?

[warm vortex]

Nope

[dull monolith]

oh

[warm vortex]

You only need 5 ruptures and carnage has smart targeting

[dull monolith]

i didn't know that

that makes it way better

thank you for info

[royal lantern]

carnage is smarter then me fr

[warm vortex]

Me too

3 of my 4 brain cells left after I swapped from Assa to Bm as they would clock into work and notice only 1 brain cell was required

[nova aspen]

i still mouseover rupture 1 target for 6 ruptures

makes me feel good

[red schooner]

That last cell praying you don't go to Ret or it'd be out of a job

[royal lantern]

divinestrm

[warm vortex]

I think it’s gonna die of loneliness

Then again the entire squad comes in when I get to uni

[warm vortex]

This is you

[red schooner]

Divinestrm fun

[lofty junco]

so ret is the new no braincell required class?

[warm vortex]

Not really new

It’s been like that for a bit

[nova aspen]

[red schooner]

Hit glowing buttons, fun

[lofty junco]

thats how enhancer feels to me^^

[real pike]

can someone ( @subtle tundra ) explain to this idiot why pooling is not a VERY slight DPS increase due to Rapid Injection?

[amber brook]

The name rapid injections says itself

[nova aspen]

i rapid inject

[hardy crypt]

is there any list on which dungeons iron wire is worth and on which ones it isn't?

[amber brook]

myself with drugs

[dawn heath]

4.2mil overall in priory

not bad

647 ilvl