#assassination

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spice spire
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I’m feeling a solid trinket rn

balmy condor
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I’m still in bed

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Just woke up

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I just need his energy before stream

royal lantern
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just equiped the ilvl stuff that dropped dracthyr_kek

spice spire
lethal arrow
royal lantern
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tbh, the trinket will win out simply cs of ilvl

spice spire
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Nah but fr

royal lantern
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cus its only 2/6 hero rn

spice spire
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Balt died so you could live

balmy condor
spice spire
lethal arrow
haughty flicker
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do i send gildeds on this trinket

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surely right

balmy condor
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The fail stack is crazy

lethal arrow
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ur so due

spice spire
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Glad you guys got heroic gally

grave osprey
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Assa on toppp

little tulip
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das cursed holy fug lol

manic sphinx
astral current
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my guildmates heavily flexed on me already with mythic 2h, mythic pacemakers, heroic ring from gallywix, etc

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and here's me with huge balls in my mouth

balmy condor
golden loom
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did a first boss pug, I hope it was just the pug being suboptimal and the cds line up better in a normal run kekdog

sharp forge
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
shy creek
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!symb

dawn heath
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holy we got mugzee down with my pug

simple violet
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Just came back after being away for 6 months. Disappointed to read “Assassination Rogues have received no changes going into Season 2, patch 11.1”

golden loom
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speak for urself danny

static glacier
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other than that it's pretty textbook, I did similar dmg to you

golden loom
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idk my cds were also not in sync with the damage amps

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cause I sent atleast 1 set like a dumbass

static glacier
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fr?

golden loom
static glacier
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f

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thing is if you send on cd you will get an extra cast

hexed frost
nova aspen
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i thought the damage amp came at 2 min in mythic?

static glacier
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this was smine, ilvl plays a part too, I don't have any tier

hexed frost
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I just love demisemaxxing, that's it

pliant flame
golden loom
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but idk got the kill and some boots atleast I dont mind

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doing it tomorrow with guild so will probably go cleaner 😎

willow grotto
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!tricks

prisma monolithBOT
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Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
humble verge
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if youre not quick enough to fuel them with oil and then also use them

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youre gonna delay the amp

zinc vale
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can someone tell me how much sub is better in raid this tier ?

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are sin and sub toe to toe or sub is much better ?

peak bobcat
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Toe to toe

dense ruin
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when should I break my 4-set?

little tulip
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2 set apparently

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but sim yo self

blazing tulip
zinc vale
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dont get excited too much for new 4piece

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new 4piece is dogshit tbh

little tulip
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ye seems like we need off set belt/boots/neck/etc to fully scale into 4 set

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raw agi is really not great factor in replacing gear this early in the season

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trinks are trinks but we already down a ring etc

zinc vale
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like this new 4piece is pure dogshit hope blizz do something bout it

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changing something about it or idk maybe buff it

little tulip
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so its just sim and hope u get misc gear/main hands

peak bobcat
frigid lagoon
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
olive vortex
simple violet
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!tea

prisma monolithBOT
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
simple violet
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So do we use tea with shiv always then?

runic hinge
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yeah

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can macro and take tea off your bars

simple violet
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k thanks

dire spoke
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oh this isnt OT

rotund marsh
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they gonna fix this?

runic hinge
frigid lagoon
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!ui

prisma monolithBOT
manic sphinx
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If I want to practice ST against a dummy, is there a particular one I should be using? Is it just Kepfist? - but sometimes it's in execute

spice surge
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In general i would suggest using the dummies in orgrimmar/stormwind

cerulean walrus
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The one in Valdrakkan might be fine now too

spice surge
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As theres sometimes bugs with dummies in other zones (like dornogal), although im not aware of any specifics right now since they fixed some of them now with 11.1

manic sphinx
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kk, ty

cerulean burrow
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sois assassination using 2 set from old tier and 2 set from this tier?

manic sphinx
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Yes

cerulean burrow
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i vendored my old tier set....

manic sphinx
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Restore it

cerulean burrow
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im going to jump off a cliff

manic sphinx
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It's a really nice automated system now

cerulean burrow
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oh yeah ?

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where do I go ?

manic sphinx
cerulean burrow
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oh okay

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how is assa looking compared to sub ?

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I hate sub becasue i feel like its too hard to play

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and assa is a lot easier for me

manic sphinx
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Pretty good. Sub seems to be simming higher, but literally Whispyr just went ona huge rant 5 mins ago on stream, saying Assa is completely fine, and play what you want. He's right, doing well in m+ and raid

cerulean burrow
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okay cool

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yeah i mean .....

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outlaw trickster i felt like i was doing no damage....

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and i was playign the rotaiton right and everything

manic sphinx
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Yea, I'm completely new rogue last season. I only know how to assasin, and loving it. I dont know how to sub - looks confusing, so not fo rme for now. I like the dots

fathom flax
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not the best but still good

manic sphinx
fallow canopy
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but..but the goon squad

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calling in the homies

fathom flax
gray raven
cerulean burrow
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okay

runic hinge
rotund marsh
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fucking underpin showed up in this tiny room where you fight another mini boss

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skittering breach

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he manages to show up in the worst areas, no idea how i beat him

drifting cedar
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how do yall handle the cages on mugzee it's terrible

cerulean burrow
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hmm.... now just need to figure out ......what item slows shoudl i put the 2 pieces in ?

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is there a gear guide for us anywhere?

limber swallow
haughty flicker
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so just hit boss 4head

severe meadow
desert vault
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I'm the opposite right now sub in raid, sin in m+

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has anyone done the delve today with the gold elemental and had it bug where you can't attack him?

runic hinge
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I did it and had no problems

desert vault
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weird, well hopefully my map I used should carry over since I didn't finish this one

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I feel like it was cause I stealthed too fast after clicking the extra action button to channel him to the smaller form

warm vortex
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watching my friends do a weekly 10

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It is one of the dungeon runs of all time

cerulean walrus
gleaming cedar
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wait a damn sec did they buff magnet overnight ?

spice spire
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The delve trinket? Was nerfed

gleaming cedar
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Oh sorry I mean Junkmaestro's magnet trinket!

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I feel like im hitting max stacks extremely quickly

spice spire
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Oh

severe meadow
warm vortex
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Yea ik

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I told them this before it

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And they said the bosses aren't that bad

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They have wiped to 3rd and 4th

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God knows how many times

severe meadow
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Meadery is one of my timed 10s

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I really didn’t think it was that bad

warm vortex
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I HATE it

severe meadow
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Got a 10 DFC from vault, free ass key

warm vortex
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They currently have 14 wipes on bottom

severe meadow
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Bottom? owo

haughty flicker
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sometimes it takes a few wipes to get clean yeah

warm vortex
twilit flint
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does it matter which weapon is in which hand? sorry am noob

thorn fjord
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Sup dudes!

warm vortex
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Yea

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Higher ilevel main hand

severe meadow
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Swap them around

warm vortex
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Always always always

severe meadow
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Higher in main

warm vortex
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hbu

twilit flint
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thank you!

thorn fjord
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qq is the bleed build still stronger in higher keys or can we swap back to DTB build once we start doing 9-10's

split veldt
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
severe meadow
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Both are strong but I believe the not bleed build edges out at higher keys

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Cant super confirm tho, I swap to sub for keys

thorn fjord
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blasphemy

severe meadow
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I appreciate the ST damage too much lol

warm vortex
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Edge mentioned?

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👀

severe meadow
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Edge mentioned

runic hinge
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Hybrid probably better in higher keys

thorn fjord
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Gonna give it a gop

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go*

warm vortex
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Guys the best build is clearly just to swap to sub rogue

thorn fjord
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been blasting using bleed build tho

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I have a myth mh else I'd try OL tbh

runic hinge
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It’s 6% better in Dslice for me and I’ve been using bleed cause I haven’t had time to push keys

thorn fjord
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i dont wanna play sub

warm vortex
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understandable

runic hinge
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I sold my transmitter so I won’t be tempted to play sub

upper solstice
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Is Gally ring oversim or just a powerfull upgrade even on champion ?

haughty flicker
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ngl i just use bleed build bc im lazy and like not having to bother with kingsbane

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me bleed

thorn fjord
thorn fjord
haughty flicker
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i took mythic priory trinket from vault so no sub for me

haughty flicker
runic hinge
desert vault
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what is the bleed build most are using? I was looking at some raider.io just seeing if I'm looking at what most are using

thorn fjord
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Its on wowhead

haughty flicker
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the one on wowhead is the default

strange sleet
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I mean, ST in M+ feels like shit even with Kingsbane talented tho

haughty flicker
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some people drop sbs/doomblade for iw/kb

cerulean burrow
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know what I really hate

thorn fjord
haughty flicker
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yeah kb is nice on st because it feels like you're doing something

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even if you arent

cerulean burrow
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that is you use vanish twice in aoe spec and you want to swap to single target you have to literally wait 4 minutes

haughty flicker
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without it you're just keeping bleeds up and going afk

cerulean burrow
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to swap

strange sleet
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Well with the bleed build you sometimes get these Ambush procs that use no energy

haughty flicker
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oh thats the other swap yeah

strange sleet
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and at 35% the activity is THRU THE ROOF

haughty flicker
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ttb or blindside

desert vault
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ah ok, I was using some builds I saw other sin rogues on raider.io, must be the hybrid sort of thing cause still has KB

runic hinge
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I take ttb cause I like big shiv

haughty flicker
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i should try blindside actually

runic hinge
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Blindside is just dopamine but it sims worse

haughty flicker
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i like damage but i also like dopamine

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hard choice

limber swallow
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big shiv that hits 8 targets is nice

grave osprey
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Thic shiv

strange sleet
haughty flicker
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even if i wanted to do that im locked in to rogue for raid anyway

grave osprey
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Assa the best spec

haughty flicker
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and im not playing outlaw

grave osprey
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There are No other specs

haughty flicker
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and im not playing sub

runic hinge
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It would make your ST feel a smidge better

haughty flicker
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i tried sub and was ass

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so now im just ass on ass

grave osprey
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Sub is a snoozefest outside of CDs

strange sleet
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Play feral and tell your mates you are a Furry rogue now

haughty flicker
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i actually have been playing feral

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but its more to get a tank geared for keys

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feral kind of boring anyway ngl

grave osprey
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Feral is just a worse assa rogue thats somehow more complex to play

runic hinge
desert vault
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My old MA+TTk build from last seasson seems to be my highest simming

haughty flicker
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the default hybrid build has always simmed higher yeah

desert vault
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and yeah I can't get my head around sub in keys right now, I get so impatient sitting around doing nothing for 89 second

strange sleet
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yeah if the mobs lasts like 20 seconds you are good with hybrid

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but this season is so fucking easy it almost hurts

radiant raven
strange sleet
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and ppl keep asking for crazy ilvls to do a fucking 6-7

runic hinge
strange sleet
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impossible with alts

humble verge
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literally

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gaming

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and we dropped the ring too

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hooooly

desert vault
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I might try the build I saw a few of the top rogues on raider.io using with Sudden Demise and KB, seems interesting

runic hinge
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Rogue defensives just way better than feral

strange sleet
humble verge
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ring 2 curio

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is crazy

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and the mount dropped lmao

strange sleet
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glgl, but you are probably not see a thing

humble verge
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how would you know?

cerulean burrow
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so for single target we use shiv on cd for supercharged combo points?

humble verge
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im literally

cerulean burrow
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basically ?

humble verge
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topping every single target fight

strange sleet
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that's why, you don't need more

cerulean burrow
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uberscot

strange sleet
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gotta equip the other players that do less dmg

cerulean burrow
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can you help me understand the single target rotation ?

runic hinge
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!guide

severe meadow
radiant raven
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I bet it was 200

strange sleet
humble verge
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dh got ring

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sadge

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they are in council talk for both curio

strange sleet
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f ring

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still jope

humble verge
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hes a god DH tho

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cant lie

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hes been asked to join like top 50 guilds afaik

strange sleet
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well then it's desrved I guess

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but 10 mins to decide loot bro

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crazy stuff

wraith briar
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do you change talent builds when you get 2pc/4pc

runic hinge
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No

subtle tundra
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if this slot is mechano hog tomorrow

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ill kms

charred shard
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In AoE situations assuming you have your bleeds on everything, is it better to FoK + Envenom (while maintaining 1 mutilate for caustic spatter)...or should you be pumping as many mutilates as possible and only FoK with the prov from Clear the Witness?

balmy condor
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fok as your main generator on 2 or more if you're talented into CT

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3 or more without ct

charred shard
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ok thanks!

jolly vault
static glacier
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yo @balmy condor how much worse is accelerated opener

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%wise in sism

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cds coming back slightly too late on gallywix

balmy condor
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accelerating doesn't fix that sadly I tried

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but it's like 1.5%

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if you accelerate every cd

static glacier
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mhm rip then

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any tips

balmy condor
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cry

static glacier
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do i just hold for the 2 big guys

balmy condor
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fuck no

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you just slam

static glacier
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xd

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isssue iss im losisng like 2-3 globals

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when hes sflying to the side and spsawning big ass guys

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it lines sup with the vanish to gar them

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guess we just take the L :l

indigo mulch
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It finally dropped T_T

ebon lodge
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do i have to tell tanks to slow down and drop combat between packs in m+ or do i just gotta deal with not being able to restealth

jolly vault
pure moth
limber swallow
ebon lodge
jolly vault
pure moth
ebon lodge
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my migga do you know what a skill issue is lmfao

jolly vault
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yes, also it means more money for Blizz if you on horde

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xD

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(should the aim be swapping, not generally)

ebon lodge
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havent played alli since the days of the human racial

vapid parcel
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what is the % "chance" for the 4pc?

strange python
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I can’t recall, are we not supposed to be aiming to get a 4 set of the new gear

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I thought I read two of the new and two of the old was best rn but i might be dumb

balmy condor
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4 piece is worth it at myth track

balmy condor
drifting cloud
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whispyr what was in the vault

balmy condor
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dogshit

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raid row had legit nothing

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delve row had nothing

spice surge
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Like in a bag, or just rawdogging it on the pavement

balmy condor
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m+ row had 2 legs and a neck

drifting cloud
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delve row huh

limber swallow
drifting cloud
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we that desperate

spice surge
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Delve trinkets are really good

balmy condor
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why wouldn't we be filling delve row

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trinkets brotherman

spice surge
drifting cloud
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does anything compete with floodgate

spice surge
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Because i already got the energy drink from my map

balmy condor
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I took a myth track leg for catalyst next week idk

spice surge
balmy condor
dawn heath
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lowkey

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i want energy drink for the name only

rotund oak
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!guide

rotund oak
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so much fun

real pike
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anyone using a more aoe-y build than just caustic on gally hc?

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like CT or anything

balmy condor
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no

severe meadow
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Nah, not enough value

kind ravine
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so, i'm goin't recraft a weapon, need to change something? sadCat

timber quarry
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Who did this. I need to have a talk with the god of sandbagging

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Bro would be discovering the cure for cancer if he worked in a different field, with how good he is at sandbagging sims

haughty flicker
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me when i learn sims dont equal raid performance

real pike
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thx

spice spire
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True

desert vault
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
brazen cypress
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wanted to learn sub rogue, can't do it, back to assassination omegalul

warm furnace
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I'm too dumb for sub, sin life for me

daring hamlet
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man my overall on sub feels a lot lower than assa

charred shard
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should you ever keep up CT on single target in dungeons, or only 2+

short mulch
spice spire
spice spire
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If you have amp talented you’re not cting st

royal lantern
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its a salty druid

cerulean maple
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we do a lil roguing jfc

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do any of u know a good way to deal with the gaols on mogzee or whatever the penultimate raidboss is called

i get them almost every time cry

spice spire
balmy condor
spice spire
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Because you hardly know er?

balmy condor
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exactly

spice spire
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God bless

royal lantern
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talent is gone for only a couple months now

spice spire
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Because he’s a taken man

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He better not know her

royal lantern
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i swear, nobody is dumber then people that look at sims for raid performance

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ok, m+ andys are

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but its VERY close

spice spire
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I also sweat

royal lantern
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sweating is part of a healthy human body

timber quarry
balmy condor
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yes

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that's how that works

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I'll leak my blurb that's going into the wowhead weekly log review

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but to TLDR the whole thing

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we get free AoE for nothing

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all the fights have aoe

haughty flicker
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pog early access to whispyr blurb

balmy condor
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and we're insanely strong extended burst

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which for something like vexie with a 45 second damage window

timber quarry
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You are welcome, I will take credit for making him leak

balmy condor
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is cracked as shit

timber quarry
balmy condor
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I leaked it on stream earlier anyway

spice spire
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He already leaked king

royal lantern
spice spire
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Yeah

sick sail
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man i finally logged into bnet over 6 months, and wanting to play wow again and i see rogue is amazing, remembered how their talents were kinda ok before expansion, so i was like oh ill play a chill range hunterclass, but rogue looks sweet, if i had to pick, even tho assa lore is fantastic..is sub better?

royal lantern
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if sim numbers would be what matters, outlaw would always be the #1 rogue spec

balmy condor
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no he's not lmao

true rapids
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in your plater it used to make the mob with DSM purple bar but I downloades s2 plater import and its not happening did that change or did I import wrong?

royal lantern
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when was the last time outlaw was "relevant" in raids lol

spice spire
sick sail
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oh ima read whisp guides, sry to interfere lol

balmy condor
balmy condor
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the other thing is like, if I'm sandbagging even 1% right

balmy condor
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how many of those sims are inhuman

cerulean maple
# balmy condor

big up assa, goated spec (why even change to anything else in 15 years)

balmy condor
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if the assumption can be made that assa is sandbagged, the assumption that some of these sims are cringe as fuck not human playable can be made as well

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there's optimizations like that all the time

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and there are 100% theorycrafters that will add it to sims just because number go up

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is that a better alternative

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just arms race your way to TAS?

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what good does that do to anyone

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it's not like blizzard is looking at sims for tuning

cerulean maple
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@balmy condor idk if it's your plater settings or my wow itself but all my friendly names are massive, like covering the entire screen if i have them on during raid

any idea what could be doing this?

humble verge
balmy condor
spice spire
cerulean maple
royal lantern
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like, tf do people expect

yes fury sims higher on a 5min patchwerk fight

but this boss dies in 6min 20seconds where i had a full CD window during execute

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so ofc my dmg will be higher

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thats how dmg patterns work

humble verge
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actually went off raid today just to kill gallywix, honeslty

spice spire
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Erm sir 6:50 for lingering

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Hello

humble verge
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he was unironically piss easy

cerulean maple
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is he easier than the prev. boss?

humble verge
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than mugzee?

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id say yes

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the whole fight is just a heal issue

cerulean maple
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youwza

humble verge
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but then again

balmy condor
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mugzee is a heal/dps check, gallywix you just 7 heal 20 people and it falls over eventually

humble verge
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mugzee you also have a lot of healing towards the end

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^^

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pretty much

cerulean maple
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speaking of mugzee how tf do you deal with being gaol'd nonstop

humble verge
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dps check over heal check kind of tho

balmy condor
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wdym gaol'd

humble verge
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what is gaol'd

cerulean maple
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the

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uh

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where he spawns a b ig lad on you

humble verge
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jail?

balmy condor
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I know the mechanic

cerulean maple
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with walls

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yeah

balmy condor
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but what do you mean what do you do

humble verge
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uh like

balmy condor
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you kill the add and go back to boss

humble verge
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dont get jailed hello?

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like

cerulean maple
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LMFAO

humble verge
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i just ignore jail

balmy condor
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or you can be cringe and do that I guess

humble verge
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unironically i got jail like 3 times in total

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i think over the course of all our wipes

cerulean maple
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i meant more like im getting rng jailed during dps cooldowns, should i just shadowstep out and let my freak raidmates deal w ad or be a g ood little assa player and kill it myself

humble verge
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22 wipes

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3 jails

balmy condor
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like you're getting the swirl?

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run it out

humble verge
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and 2 ice spikes

balmy condor
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what are we doing here

haughty flicker
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dps players when they ahve to do a mechanic

humble verge
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wait nvm 4 ice spikes actually

balmy condor
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like do the mechanic

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idk

humble verge
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cause i got cucked on both kill and the previous wipe we had on like 2%

royal lantern
timber quarry
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What I have learned are that rogues are just the goats. On paper should do shit dps, but in practice obliterates everything they lay their eyes on.
AND they have 2 lives wowzers

cerulean maple
balmy condor
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I mean we do shit dps in the exact situation that is simmed

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that's not untrue

humble verge
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idk

balmy condor
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that situation just doesn't exist lmao

humble verge
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i was topping on mugzee

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unironically

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well

cerulean maple
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our first wipe on the boss i got jailed on every rota cry

humble verge
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besides that the 2nd to last DM

timber quarry
humble verge
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hits on the charge phase

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which is so ass

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i still push it tho

cerulean maple
#

i wish shadowstepping to him during intermission didnt make you instantly eat shit

spice surge
humble verge
balmy condor
cerulean maple
#

we do a lil sprinting

humble verge
#

unironically

cerulean maple
#

im just bithcing for fun

humble verge
#

i did pop like

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feint AND evasion

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before doing it

royal lantern
cerulean maple
#

10h shift into 1h mythic into 3h raid will do that to you fr

humble verge
#

or you can pop cloak

#

has someone here killed carnage yet

cerulean maple
#

we're super heal gapped so i can't rly afford to take unnecessary dmg :(

humble verge
#

we just did vexie, kinda cringe

spice surge
cerulean maple
#

anyway for jails how dumbfuck stupid rude evil would it be to straight up shadowstep back to boss (can you even? i didnt bother trying) and let ur raid deal w ad

spice surge
#

1 or 2 ranged needs to do a thing, but we just zug

humble verge
#

that i saw in the journal

spice surge
#

Its the same as on hc

humble verge
#

wait is it

tight sparrow
#

any tips on how to aoe on gallywix when he spawns his adds?

humble verge
#

oh

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OH

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that thing yea

timber quarry
coral ibex
#

me when im pogging

humble verge
#

nvm

#

holy

coral ibex
humble verge
#

why dont you have keys done

coral ibex
#

bro i spent 9 hours and got 3 completions last week

cerulean maple
#

oh fuck when does EU reset? 4am or smth?

humble verge
#

HOW

coral ibex
#

i valued my health

humble verge
#

HOOOOOW

coral ibex
#

lfg is ass

humble verge
#

yeah but

coral ibex
#

and i missed the day 1 wave

humble verge
#

you ahve a guild

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dont you

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ah

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yeah i woke up at 6am to do keys

timber quarry
#

Honestly

humble verge
#

eu ofc

timber quarry
#

nerf warrior

coral ibex
#

i play other games

humble verge
#

honestly

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should be enough

coral ibex
#

been making sick gains on osrs the last month

humble verge
#

i guess

humble verge
cerulean maple
humble verge
#

bro is just doing 7s

royal lantern
humble verge
#

spamming like hell

coral ibex
#

this shit did not get more fun in season 2

cerulean maple
humble verge
#

hello?

cerulean maple
#

applying to keys is just asking to sit around for 9 hours without a single group accepting u

humble verge
#

am i talking to a statue?

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well

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not doing keys with guildies to get score

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and then not doing keys at all

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idk what there is to complain

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sorry if it put you off but

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we actually kicked a raider cause he did no effort to do keys

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(well also he didnt show up for half the raids)

cerulean maple
#

raid on its own is enough timesink for some ppl as it is tbh

humble verge
#

and then also expected loot

#

but then i feel wow might not be the best game imo

cerulean maple
humble verge
#

wow is up there being the biggest time waste

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i sure how whisp isent writing a paragraph to me rn

cerulean maple
coral ibex
#

i can sink more hours into osrs and get meaningful progress the whole time

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i can legitimately spend hours on wow playing and gaining nothing

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while trying to gain something

cerulean maple
humble verge
coral ibex
#

every m+ i completed last week dropped me 53 gold

humble verge
#

dont they drop 200 now

coral ibex
#

oh it was 200

#

my mistake

humble verge
#

maybe im wrong?

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idk

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i feel like its been 200

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covers like

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4 pots

coral ibex
#

it dropped an inconsequential amount of gold and nothing i could equip

humble verge
#

anlaki

copper shore
#

does floodgate in general like iron wire rogues?

spice spire
#

Warrior is 13 deep with one piece

humble verge
#

cant tell who hes trying to answer rn

humble verge
copper shore
#

I normally dont but LFG is harsch

humble verge
#

it just drops off too fast for it to be worth

spice spire
dapper cradle
humble verge
#

atleast now in 11-12s

dapper cradle
#

goonfuel or what?

spice spire
#

Won’t know

#

Until 2 hours from now

humble verge
dapper cradle
spice spire
balmy condor
# timber quarry Lot of dumbfucks like me that look at dumbfuck spreadsheets to see which classes...

okay well the only bosses that matter imo would be the last 3 cause those are the real challenge every tier, and none of those are single target, and all of them have very important execute phases which assassination is very good at, so how are we quantifying that?

the issue is that we use sims to guide us in the right direction on things, like okay we sim 1 target 5 min patchwerk because that's raid boss-ish close enough it'll tell me what's better in average single target and we go from there, gg

if we want to start doing raid-accurate "what is better on gally", "what is better on mug'zee", those fights can be set up and simulated, and that's been done in the past as well, but that has its own downside because the APLs are not in any position to be handling complex fights like that. Sims just aren't advanced enough to plan cooldowns ahead for add spawns correctly every time or account for damage amps and downtime for mechanics and they don't have weightings for execute or aoe or add damage. Simming shit like that would be throwing a recreational swimmer into the olympics. It helps us understand how to swim better for sure, like there's useful data, but dudes gonna drown at the olympics.

So what's the answer? Do we simplify the sim fight to get a good answer about a generalized and generic fight, or do we make a complex fight that gives us a bad answer about a very specific fight? Both options suck ass but simming complex fights not only require more work to optimize, more compute time, and more data analysis, but they're also just not going to cause major swings in what's being suggested. Sure the numbers will go all over the place and maybe assa will be the best spec for X fight. But for players simming themselves they won't give a fuck because it'll still be play the same talents, play the same stats, play the same gear. Maybe you swap cloak A for cloak B and re-gem your gear god forbid but like what is the point? Just to know what spec is best at which fight? We have that already it's called logs, sims don't have to do that

fuck spreadsheet sims and people looking at sims like it's the next coming of christ himself that shit pmo

/endrant I know you didn't ask didn't care + ratio + L + whispyr smelly nerd loser

humble verge
#

also can you post a tl:dr

#

and also giga

haughty flicker
#

didnt even read the tldr

balmy condor
spice spire
humble verge
keen spruce
#

I’m not reading all of that smile_dog but I agree

humble verge
#

thats my gimmick in this chat

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i can read every other chat

#

but when whispyr types i cant read

crude moss
#

oo

humble verge
#

wait does he have a pet called linux

spice spire
#

Yeah his cat

humble verge
#

el gato

cerulean maple
humble verge
#

you should

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rofl

#

doing 6 will give you heroic gear

cerulean maple
#

woopsie

scarlet barn
humble verge
#

unironically

spice spire
#

I did one at 638

scarlet barn
#

I was 625

humble verge
#

HOOOLY

spice spire
#

But at 644 it became insanely easy

royal lantern
#

yeha thats a Bit low

humble verge
#

but like

timber quarry
humble verge
#

you can probably time it but

waxen oyster
#

Delves early on

humble verge
#

no mistakes ++10

cerulean maple
#

they changed the scaling right

fresh kelp
#

post nerf you can prob do most dungeons at 10 with a full 620 group

humble verge
#

youd need full mythic last tier

#

imo

cerulean maple
#

10s now are waht 8s used to be or smth?

fresh kelp
#

even last week rookery/dfc were easily doable by rats

humble verge
#

@cerulean maple

waxen oyster
#

i have choice between

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myth track tier gloves

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or myth weapon

waxen oyster
#

have crafted

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hmmm

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likely tier angle

humble verge
#

also

waxen oyster
#

oh ik

royal lantern
#

do you raid mythic

humble verge
#

im pretty sure that boots is what is suggested

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on wowhead

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by mr whisp

royal lantern
#

and will kill riz in forseable future

spice spire
#

Xiani is mythic raider iirc

waxen oyster
#

Yeah wep drops off rik

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doesnt it

#

iunno i never checked this raid's loot table

spice spire
#

Richard reverberation

humble verge
#

what am i

waxen oyster
#

i show up and hit boss

humble verge
#

😭

balmy condor
#

a freak

humble verge
#

true

spice spire
humble verge
#

words

spice spire
#

M+ Andrew

humble verge
#

well

#

i was a big m+ andy last season

#

i lost out on title by 60 score

waxen oyster
#

Dwarf feels so nice this season.

cerulean maple
# humble verge <@150289566534729728>

god damn

so if i can be awake for another 2ish hours and im absolutely pumping should i go for 2 heroic raid kills or just do a few mythics atp 💀 minmaxing my time before i have to sleep for work

humble verge
#

dwarf will always be good

spice spire
#

Dwarf feels really good this season as a tank

humble verge
#

i would

spice spire
#

Priory boss fucks so hard

humble verge
#

like

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"10 weekly no leaver"

humble verge
#

scenario

#

nah

cerulean maple
humble verge
#

delves not worth it

cerulean maple
#

isnt delve gear kinda wack

humble verge
#

10-15minutes

spice spire
keen spruce
humble verge
#

of trying to go for the no leaver

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groups

balmy condor
#

also someone explain to me how sub rogue pvp got more attention in a hotfix than all of rogue got in a major patch

severe meadow
cerulean maple
#

no leaver??

humble verge
#

yeah

#

people do like

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weekly no leaver

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as in

#

as long as it takes

#

for you to finish the key

cerulean maple
#

oh that makes sense

spice surge
haughty flicker
#

classic sub rogue'

balmy condor
humble verge
#

so you might have 100 deaths at the end

balmy condor
#

instead

waxen oyster
#

We almost timed an 11 rookery

balmy condor
#

of

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typing out

#

everything

#

in single lines

#

like

waxen oyster
#

before the pug monk healer decided to roll off on last boss

balmy condor
#

a fuckiung

#

ape

humble verge
#

but you still have a mythic track tomorrow

#

which is giga

#

whispyr

cerulean maple
#

its way more satisfying

keen spruce
timber quarry
balmy condor
#

why would I try

#

to even talk

severe meadow
balmy condor
#

in a big well thought out manner

#

if I can just

#

hit enter

#

every time

#

my brain fires

cerulean maple
#

well okay nobodyu hits enter that many times smfh

timber quarry
#

guys stop spamming

keen spruce
humble verge
balmy condor
humble verge
#

my pinky finger is literally triggered to hit enter

cerulean maple
#

neuron activation

royal lantern
humble verge
#

excactly

spice spire
cerulean maple
#

i get it though idk why but it's much easier to express yourslef that way

#

obv it;s not great for Big Thoughts but yeahge

earnest flume
#

anyone else have there mark stay on a dead boss in affront of challengers in ToP. doesnt give you darknest night so you gotta blow a vanish? or is this known thing

humble verge
#

so im gonna try sub tomorrow, surely i will have good enough vers/mastery gear to do any damage at all

spice spire
#

I’m lucky to have a thought let along a large one

spice spire
humble verge
#

is whispyr answering me now

cerulean maple
humble verge
#

in a giga rant

royal lantern
humble verge
#

i hope he is

#

I REALLY DO

spice spire
earnest flume
#

ok thank you, reported it if its actually a bug, but using vanish isnt tooo bad

cerulean maple
spice spire
#

Good luck homie

waxen oyster
#

Can someone explain to me why tf pug tanks like to go right side miniboss

#

in priory

spice spire
severe sparrow
#

bruh holy shit the right side boss

spice spire
#

The pad is so juicy on the left

severe sparrow
#

pug killer

spice spire
#

And the boss is infinitely better

waxen oyster
#

Idk I'm not mentally ill enough to watch people stream m+

storm forum
#

We go left for the priests right?

waxen oyster
#

for hours on end

#

maybe theres tech im missing

spice spire
#

I’ve literally never seen the right

spice spire
#

Afaik

cerulean maple
#

sory for big thought and big question but. i have my vault raid slots filled w normal kills, a single m0 done, and 4 t8 delves done

do i
a) go for a m10
b) 2-4 heroic raid kills
d) ?? smth else

#

prob just the m10 right

#

dont have time for both

spice spire
#

Ten drops myth

waxen oyster
#

do 8 t8 delves

spice spire
#

So myth

storm forum
waxen oyster
#

takes like 15 mins

humble verge
#

well

cerulean maple
humble verge
#

depends on the delve is up

severe sparrow
#

damn alright if i have 2 crit/mastery myth track rings in vault but with flipped heavy stat, i might as well just take the one that also rolled speed, right?

waxen oyster
#

fungal folly or underkeep

balmy condor
# humble verge the thing is i have this rational effect of actively pressing the enter button a...

I don't care how people express themselves or talk or what to share their thoughts and hopes and dreams and experiences, however you want to do that is great and you should feel compelled to express yourself however you are most comfortable doing so. But when I type out a big well thought out post about a subject that I'm passionate about and people hit me with the "haha not reading all that whispyr posting another big paragraph wall of text what a fucking idiot who's going to care not me I only read that amount of stuff when it's spit at me one line at a time, aren't I better and smarter for that", that shit pisses me off cause like what the fuck do you want me to do? Am I supposed to sit here and just type out my thoughts on a complex issue of sim data vs log data and the intricacies of trying to maintain a simulation model that serves as an accurate portrayal of the spec one line at a time over the course of 15 minutes? While 2 other conversations are going on? Like be so for real ya know what are we doing. If we're just yapping then yeah whatever I'll hit enter a bunch, but if I'm trying to have a complicated answer to a complicated topic I'm just going to do a big post because fucking obviously I am

waxen oyster
#

depends on the story

cerulean maple
#

ruh roh

spice spire
#

Sluice dreadpit fungal folly

#

Are 3

waxen oyster
#

use bioprinter and ezmech kit

#

the mecha devilsaurs do like a bajillion damage

cerulean maple
storm forum
#

I'm a fan of whispyr's walls of texts

cerulean maple
#

noted

spice spire
#

The true tech

#

Was underpin

celest egret
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
spice spire
#

But that was fixed

cerulean maple
waxen oyster
#

Sometimes they bug out and spawn like 20 mechadinos

humble verge
royal lantern
waxen oyster
#

and do like 2m dps and erase the boss instantly

wispy moss
#

is it worth crafting with the runed harbringer crest?

spice spire
#

But I only did a 9 day 2

wispy moss
#

undermine

waxen oyster
#

They eat ass almost as well as quake

humble verge
#

minor joke whispyr please dont take my yes seriously

cerulean maple
scarlet barn
spice spire
storm forum
#

Although I'm also a fan of the meme on whispyr's walls of texts cause I'm braonrotted to hell

viscid spear
waxen oyster
#

oof should have done higher keys

humble verge
#

actually giga

waxen oyster
#

You probably take signet since most aids to farm

severe sparrow
#

damn

viscid spear
severe sparrow
#

i got so distracted by opening vault i forgot i got food delivered kekw

humble verge
storm forum
#

Holy shit the fun house mirror is real (my priest needs it badly)

viscid spear
#

My current trinkets btw

soft surge
#

650 pepelafington

balmy condor
# cerulean maple also ya good point but i dont think anyone is going to actually try to answer a...

yeah and like I know people who care will read, like our new friend @timber quarry over here showed up and I gave him the whispyr wall and he read it and appreciated and it was good, like that's great. But then every time it happens there's like 4 random shitheads that pop out of nowhere to be like haha whispyr wall not reading + yapper and it's like dude you don't have to read and also who tf was talking to you leave me alone lmao

humble verge
waxen oyster
#

Chat how unhinged is it to make an entire smoothie jar and just drink it between pulls

#

More time to key

humble verge
balmy condor
#

no you're just scot

humble verge
#

i feel attacked

severe sparrow
#

less unhinged than when i try and eat dinner during a raid night

#

and 2 hours in ive eaten 1/3 of it

humble verge
#

why are you trying to eat dinner through raid

#

holy balls

waxen oyster
#

Well I did stay up to 6am on saturday

timber quarry
waxen oyster
#

doing alt delves

severe sparrow
#

bc i get home right before raid sadcat

viscid spear
humble verge
dawn heath
#

Pugging these Bosses first week pretty yikes

storm forum
#

I'll say "I ain't reading that" for the meme, but I lied, I read the whole damn thing

obsidian bear
#

!GUIDE

balmy condor
#

also @indigo ether get your fucking scam raid under control buddy

#

tell scana to stop clicking on the porn links

severe sparrow
#

simc having that new "close window after you copy" feature is spooky and i like it but i also feel scared like what if it didnt copy

timber quarry
#

seems legit

fallow canopy
#

Free money pog

humble verge
#

im glad i got curve last day of 1st week reset

balmy condor
#

but also @blazing jewel when you wake up and get your account back you fucking dumbass

cerulean maple
humble verge
#

literally off-raid day with most of the raid team went in SEAL Team 6 and we got a shaman pug who helped us kill the boss

cerulean maple
#

unrelated note

humble verge
#

not even 99

dawn heath
winged quail
humble verge
cerulean maple
#

wrong reply oops

humble verge
#

oh yeah

#

you gguys get to pad

viscid spear
humble verge
#

and i have to do fucking mechanics as the ONLY rogue in the raid

royal lantern
cerulean maple
#

omg im also the only rogue and i keep getting mechanics!! twinsies

humble verge
#

WHO will keep up the 3.6% DR WHEN IM DOING MECHANICS GUYS

#

HELLO

#

RAIDLEAD

cerulean maple
#

i finally managed to convince our priest to Pi me instead of some rando sandbagging though

west crown
#

I the the mechano delve trinket bad now?

cerulean maple
#

the 98 was without any pi :(

humble verge
#

we have 3 priests

#

ignore rik and gally

#

this is normal ofc

#

ome

dawn heath
#

I got 99 on dh on mugzee

humble verge
#

I HAD 99 ON ALL THE WIPES BEFORE

dawn heath
#

With these randos

humble verge
#

AND WE GET THE KILL AND I GET FUCKED EVERY TIME

cerulean maple
#

meanwhile my 72 parse on stix staring at me bc i was playng the fight at 10 fps and my laptop was on fire

humble verge
#

sorry for the outbreak

#

i got a 93 atleast

cerulean maple
indigo ether
humble verge
dawn heath
#

Noob not even orange

humble verge
#

yeah

cerulean maple
#

i had SUCH insane parses on like the 3 wipes leading up to our Spiderbitchiforgethername clear

humble verge
#

i wish i was orange

#

but apparently

cerulean maple
#

then ate complete shit and had like an 80% or smth

humble verge
#

"heroic logs dont matter"

balmy condor
humble verge
#

says my raidlead

storm forum
#

Me, purple parsing all our wipes, and then dying right before lust on the Queen Ansurek kill pull RabbitDead

humble verge
#

oh i had blue parses on both council and queen

#

i could not stand to get any purple on those at all

cerulean maple
balmy condor
dawn heath
#

They were giving pi to our green parsing shamans in the pug

waxen oyster
#

Tbh I just play sub in world content

#

everything dies in the first dance

humble verge
#

look at this

dawn heath
humble verge
#

well

#

only having 2 kills on queen

waxen oyster
humble verge
#

does that tho

humble verge
waxen oyster
#

then assassinated on farm

cerulean maple
dawn heath
humble verge
#

i got a free pass from progging on princess

#

to going straight into queen prgo

#

prog lmao

cerulean maple
#

yall..

humble verge
#

its right there

#

im surprised

cerulean maple
humble verge
#

my vexie kill is rank 42

#

i feel cool

cerulean maple
waxen oyster
#

I didnt get to key until the weekend

dawn heath
#

Rank Juan or noob

humble verge
#

rank

humble verge
#

post em

#

POST EM

storm forum
#

Should I assassinate my cohealers for my parse tonight?

dawn heath
#

I have a bunch on havoc from old tiers if that counts

humble verge
#

nah

#

current expansion

dawn heath
#

Only 99s now

#

Washed

humble verge
#

our DH i think had rank 1 ovi

#

on mythic

dawn heath
#

I didnt raid last tier

humble verge
#

sadge

dawn heath
#

Nor this one

storm forum
#

O7