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But Iโm psure he didnโt mean raid
sometimes you gotta live on the edge
Theres no way
yeah but that's gonna happen with tricks too cause you hit the boss and it hits back and then it actually transfers the aggro
the final "chapter" of the campaign is to do the raid yeah? do you get the heroic crest before or after that step
so tricks won't even help with that
Oh it happens, usually just in pugs though, as in I have to vanish before tricks is back on CD to avoid getting nuked
you still get fucked
bro what pugs are you in
Granted but on random bosses that aren't even in range of me will run at me for a second before the tank hits.
ive had some shit tanks and ive never had that happen
bro this guy is tracking his tricks cooldowns as a defensive
Also not saying tricks is good either, i don't even use it

In raid????
aint no way we are using vanish as a threat reset in RETAIL
PEOPLE ARE DOING IT ON VAEL IN BWL NOT IN 2025 
this is not real
I did tank mythic sikran so we killed it to be fair
No way on earth do you rip Aggro in raid as a sin rogue
but that was with both tanks dead 
should have vanished earlier to reset aggro
Fuck it while ur at it just meld on a raid boss to reset Aggro too
evasion is the best defensive in the game 
my favorite use of evasion is pressing it to extend a fight that is obviously a wipe but im too stubborn to give up
Ty guys
The beta CD tracker: tracks Tricks
The GIGA Chad casual: has feint on PTT

wait what is ptt?
push to talk
ah okay, foreign concept to me, open mic or muted on discord
Hey, when do Assa Rogue exchange old Setpieces? You go 2/2 or stay old 4p till new 4p?
old 4pc > 2+2 > new 4pc
Thx mate didnt expect 2p to be stronger than old 4p ๐
the old 4pc was dog shit
2+2 is good
why are the trinkets outside of raids so trash this season
Signet is fine
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Does simply garroting cause dmg reduc. Or does it need to interrupt a cast
simply garroting
Good morning peeps! Maybe something that was already asked but after I watched tones of different guides I cant wrap my brain around this mechanic: As an Assassination Rouge with the Deathstalker Herotalent: Why does my Deathstalker Marks sometimes are used, sometimes I cant "deplete" them ( and yes I use 5 combo points or more :))? ( If that should have been in some other channel, sorry )
Correct target?
it takes 7, not 5
correct Target
if mobs are immune to the silence effect, theyre also immune to the damage reduction though
since that one is tied to the silence
Also got this problem at training dummys
Not about Darkest Night
Mark
idk then
Sometimes is working correctly sometimes I cant deplete it
you cant deplete it if you have darkest night up, so for example if you have darkest night up and then vanish ambush, you have both 3 stacks of mark and darkest night
so you need to use the darkest night proc and then you can use the stacks
this is what I was writing
Having darkest night up and Envenoming for 7cps refreshes mark on the target
even if you have a semi-depleted mark already active
For example: I start at training dummys in stealth with an Ambush, applying my bleeds ( with at least 5 combopints ) sometimes the Deathstalker Marks getting depleted, so I can smoothly start with CDs withfirst Darkest night, sometimes the Deathstalker Marks dont get depleted.
just loot it 
So all my strategics about using Deathstalker Mark to get an Darkest Night and set up my CDs correctly are mostly not working well :&
I mean the opener is:
Ambush (applies mark) -> garrote (here you have either 4 or 5 combo points) -> mut/fok if 4 -> rupture on 5+ combo points (1 stack used) -> build to 5+ -> envenom (2nd stack used) -> deathmark sequence
you dont build to darkest night before cooldowns anyways
or I mean you build towards it, but you dont reach it
The mark only depletes if you use a finisher with 5+cps in the target that has the mark. If you use finishers while targeting a mob with no mark, it does not get depleted
All of this is happening correctly.
I know how the mechanics are working. The problem is, that even though I using 5 ore more combo points, sometimes I cant deplete / use my Deathstalker Marks.
well idk, I havent had any problem like that personally
so its going wrong somewhere
respectfully I hope a 10 year old emotes on you in fortnite
So do you put radiant crit on one ring and cursed haste on the other?
did you know that blackjack randomly works on some bosses

what
why would you put cursed haste on anything
this chat half of the time
My opener in dummys is: AMbush -> garrote -> garrote -> rupture -> rupture -> mutilate/fok -> Crimson 5+cps -> Fok until 7cps -> Envenom Darkest Night -> Deathmark -> KingsBane -> continue
Try that without changing targets. It should work fine
overcapping cp 
nah 
it is very strange
I dunno, trying to follow the guide
oh
I forgot that I have to include yeha
yeah that's just fucked to hell
go double radiant
reminds me I should ask if I can get rid of it
or maybe I just quietly get rid of it
and hope no one notices
i send full 6/6?
!craft
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
I mean
do you want the cringe answer
or the like
reasonable answer
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gimme both
im thinking i hold the crests for post vault
and then send it
in case i get some sauce out of my 10 slolt
the cringe answer is you should farm 655 trinkets from 10's to save yourself the 15 crests
the reasonable answer is to just slam it cause who cares
Did people over-doompost ass ST?
TRUE
It honestly didnโt seem that bad at all
Did people over-doompost ass ST?
yes
welcome to the wow community
whoever doom posted over assa dead sub bis etc should be trialed for attempted murder
does it sim well for you
it was the perfect reason to go play monk
it's not one of the best
now i just wish i had some fucking gear
so it's not gonna be worth farming
Kk
what 'bout this
New Whispyr Vid 
don't care as much

wth when did blackjack come back to meta
whisper is making it forced meta again
i bought the wave scrambler thing yesterday to get the free map and the underpin spawned by himself so i didnt use it
and now its doubled in price on the ah
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what am I doing this time
it's nto horrid
your other trinkets in that screenshot though, yeesh 
telling people to play blackjack
what's wrong with blackjack
blackjack good
aoe blind good, blackjack good
works on a lot of shit
cap
cant wait to get it out of my vault
Numbing or atrophic which do your tanks usually my want
if you ask any tank tc they'll tell you numbing is much better
for the low pissy keys numbing ye
My guild tank thatโs been tanking (heโs a dps main) keys was unsure which was better so he asked me to get others opinions on what they get asked for
the attack speed reduction doesn't stack with the dk one hto
hey any weakaura grandmaster around here ? I wanna make my rupture/garrote icons bigger in pandemic or juste make a new icon that only show up when i gotta refresh it
nah doesn't, already checked when i was running with fdk last season
Usually we donโt have a tank with us heโs a dh
whats the best spec for rogue this season for m+?
that's cool, I didn't know that
Yes
probably sub the way it's looking
I see thanks
jsut wait for the .5 patch meta tier list
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Oh? Where did you see that top rogue was outlaw? I checked wow logs didnโt see any
Hey is there an id for M0 ?
weekly lockout if thats what you mean
So you can run each M0 only once a week ?
the real top rogue is rank 1 ass parse on heroic bandit

rip haha
Didnโt they change it back to once a week this season
Iโm pretty sure thatโs what I kept getting told
i don't see why they would change back
Because they hate us
blizzard can't decide what their systems are
it's a weekly lockout
they buffed rewards and difficulty for m0 in s2
and made it weekly
Got you , thanks !
you can read it here
we can still get some extra ct damage from xalatath's balls right
yes
Because per day would hinder those that can't keep up
fatebound still sims way higher then deatstalker ! is this correct ? or something messy with the sims ?
link it
i cant now im in work, later in the day i will,
i still paying last tier, does this count ?? heheh, but when i get home i will put ot here ... thanks in advance !
I would assume you messed something up in the sim
cause fatebound is just straight up worse even in old gear now
Just did a priory and 2 HC signets dropped. Non could be traded ๐ญ they didnt even need it
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dGegfWh5rcNxD8vz4F1Pk9
Fatebound 1.5% over DT, bad sim settings or expected ? I remember ppl advising to go Fatebound for pure ST like Kyveza in S1
no he changed for DS
aha
but close
the DS has caustic
and the fatebound doesn't
fatebound running internal bleeding
Ooooh true. I've got the same page for ST DS and Caustic DS
must be it. DS it is then
this is garbonzo right
i loved blackjack but then people rando stopped using it and tanks wanted tricks last season. now we using black jack again and im happy
for M+ shoudnt be that bad
Tanks wanted tricks...?
super lucky. had 75+ GB and never saw skardyns.. got this in my first m+
Hey any chance you can link that shiv/thistle tea macro ? it doesnt seem to work for me. im also dumb lol
!tea
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
ty!
Np
@balmy condor saw your vid.. helped alot.. thanks legend
Youโre welcome
i got cat baited
The one thatโs a random proc of damage
But wouldnโt gushing wound be more thematic 
Is gushing wound not a random proc of damage?
My bad :(
He walks over my keyboard and shit one time I was recording and he jumped onto my pc and sat down on the power button
Heโs very mischievous
But what if gushing wound gets effected by talents that increase bleed damage
Check mate
hows the no-kingsbane build doing these days?
Then it will quickly not do that
Depends who youโre asking
you ofc
Doing great
But what if
i seem to remember you saying its really good
It is quite good
I thought we like kings bane
You can drop bone spike and take iron wire + kb as well
no time for GCDs wasted on KB when theres envenoms to cast 
should rename spec to Envenomnation

The caustic/envenom drop is wild though
Bleeds go brr
True
bleeds go like a really wet fart
๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ brain cancer ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ก ๐ข ๐ฃ ๐ค ๐ฅ terminal๐ฆ ๐ง ๐จ ๐ฉ ๐ช ๐ซ ๐ฌ ๐ญ ๐ฎ ๐ฏ ๐ฐ ๐ฑ ๐ฒ ๐ณ ๐ด ๐ต ๐ถ ๐ท ๐ธ ๐น ๐บ ๐ป ๐ผ ๐ฝ ๐พsuffering ๐ฟ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐pain ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐
BRO rookery first boss
with cds on pull and cds in execute
beaten by tank
-=----eofaw-se90fudj 0iasdjoifhadg uihret q
you used cds twice and only did 160m?
I'm this guy: ๐ก
kinda dig this one too: ๐
Based
for the bleed build is dropping kingsbane,ironwire for doomblade,bonespike a big loss? I just like bonespike for the full combo points after rupture
Iโm the brain cancer
high5
yes
two videos of brain cancer just dropped btw
This is literally the build in the guide
everyone go watch
damn good thing we are about to get HUGE single target buffs next week
im always happy
You can mess up buttons on this spec?
No the purple spec, I just like posting in here
although yes I would absolutely find a way to mess up my buttons as Assa
me when im slightly out of range when i press deathmark and dont notice
Wouldnโt know
(I fucked up so much Thursday)
then do opener without dm
I was doing that with flag when I had transmitter
thankfully it is now in the bin and all is well with the world
Amen
it's alright, everybody looks at overall and nobody looks at splits
what bums me is that sanlayn udk pads even more than bleed build
thats less than what i did with 1 set of cds xD
I look at details when I hit bust go "Ahahaha yeees"
and then I just stop paying attention
i need a weak aura that automatically swaps details from damage to deaths or something when a boss is pulled
then back to damage when i can aoe pad
Haha, nice
whispyr ranting about bis list in the new video is pretty great
Using envenom at like 5cp with DN
Or making it so you have DN and 0cp at the same time as a rupture in late pandemic
TRUE
Is it normal that at some point I am cp and energy thirsty?
Yo @balmy condor . I was thinking of using the Council Raid build for Theatre of Pain. You think it's a good idea? Since there's so much ST or small pulls I thought I could spec into more ST but there's not many options from the hybrid build.
how can I get the spark this week?
Get the quest near catalyst station. Get half a spark from weekly chest. Turn in quest
where to get that weekly for half the spark
in dorno or undermine?
do I have to do campahn
campagn*
Any weekly. Like theatre event, the world soul q in dornogal
The surge weekly for the event in undermine
I don't think so
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what is meant by "The only pooling that remains is pooling around 3-4 seconds into a kingsbane" in the pins? dont we pool before kingsbane?
it means "dont be at 0 energy before kingsbane if possible, kinda not good"
bleed build works with 2piece + 2old piece? or need to be old tier completely?
it just works, not any gear dependent thingy
sure about that? cause with 5 stack of vile tinture (old pieces) every bleed goes up 10%
well, gonna try
for the no-KB bleed build, do we just shiv on cd when we're on packs?
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I feel like iron wire would be good this season no? Lots of casters ?
how is assassination vs sub?
Just ran Sub in m+ and it kinda fucked
Only bc ST damage is better tho xd
I pick up rogue 2 weeks before new season. Level and get to 635...learn Assass get good at it ..then boom ... Now I want to dive into sub.
I think I prefer Assas atm for M+..but want to learn Sub for heroic and mythic raid
Is there a difference in gear drops from a tier 9 delve and tier 11??
I've been running sub for a bit now, and I am def not enjoying it as much as sin. Even tho numbers are higher on sub.

Not really, T11 bountifuls for gilded
Agreed, bleed build is way more fun for me but good lord the ST is horrid
hey guys how does the new deplete system works ?
I'm still praying for an st buff
Me too, king
Another 4% would be good

Not sure if they will tune more tho. Since the race has started.
I feel like it'd have to be significant changes for them to swap around rogue specs during WF
(I haven't watched any of it yet)
Currently dabbling with Sub in shitter keys
its tricky
they have to buff aoe talents to do more st
since if they just buff a generic st talent raid becomes op
Quick. Send this to Devs for a 10% aura buff
First time ever playing Sub

I can say it's fun during your burst window
After you kinda just take a nap
imagine it's like 30s of pooling
Made doing mechanics feel less ass tbh
But feel way worse during burst window not having the uptime
whats the go to m+ spec now ?
I think it's sin tbh
for now yeah, after 4pc / higher keys I think regular dtb + kb wins
next 4pc gives no dmg to bleeds
Ye im rockin 2+2 rn
for high keys hybrid is kinda good
Are catalyst charges bi-weekly?
every 2
Kk
u get a charge
Whispyr malding over error of margin sims in the first five minutes of the video gives me such great joy
How are people managing deathstalker's mark on cauldron of carnage? Do you save vanish for when you swap bosses and not use it in the opener or just deal with the fact you wont have mark on the other boss?
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U can time it so that u use darkest night on the switch target
Ahhh ofc, totally didn't even realise that it re-applies, duh
btw circlet upgrade trick still works
!fuu
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you just keep hitting ur bosss til you get DN then switch while they're kissing in the middle
Is some1 have the addon who say ' frontals , Fixate and other shiet in M+ ' please
Hey is it allowed to post Videos here? I talked yesterday about what felt like a bug to me, today i recoreded my gameplay and got the situation again
sure
As you can see, i come out of stealth, i have Deathmark on the mob, i use finisher on him but the stacks wont get consumed
If i hit him with a 7 Point combo finisher the Deathmark still dosent get consumed right, but after that it starts working again, like i put a new deathmark on it with a 7 Point finisher
Or am i just bad and dont understand how that works?
completely normal
But why wont the stacks get consumed when i hit a finisher?
it stays at 3 after every finisher
you have darkest night
wasnt it cuz u didint have full combo points?
I think you have Deathmark and Darkest Night confused or something
you need to consume the darkest night with a 7 point envenom before the 3 stacks can start going down
so i kill the last pack, get the Darkest night, next pack comes and I am in stealth, i hit ambush and get my Deathmark on them, but because i have the Darkestnight buff still active it wont consume stacks until i use the Buff?
yall guys crafted daggers yet
you can just open with garrote or anything else cause u already have the buff
yes
Allright thank you all for answering me !
well sub also crafts dagger
wanna kill them irl :D
yeah but not with ascendance
honestly
maybe i wont either tbh
esp if im gonna use it for m+ atleast
I mean why couldnt sub use ascension
If you have the Gold you can just recraft

I have champ track priory but me want hero track
if i get prio trinket might just swap out
but also then again
the 2 times i did 8 prio
the tank just didnt wanna tank the 2nd boss
in a way for us not to die to everything else
Youโre fine with ascension. The embellishments are garbage and maybe a .1% difference
if you want to try sub that ainโt stopping you
what would yall say is your avg uptime on winning streak or wtvr for a 4-5 min boss fight?
Not sure but when I sim its 80%
aight, damn thats a pretty high avg or wtvr nice
bruh i just do random 10s on my rogue and do more overall than my monk with 2pc and 10 ilvls
gragrhrgghgh
overtuned ass aoe
hi, why sometimes I can't consume my 3 stacks of deathstalker ? I do enve, rupt or crim and nothing is used
Yea I feel ya ๐
whats best coat for daggers for assn rogue. Is there such thing as bubbling wax? I don't see it yet on AH?
our aoe with no cds feels like other classes with cds
sharp whetstone
ty Mo
the wax is an item you have to pickpocket
after a quest for rogues
its not good
k tx
I onle see iron claw on AH where do you get sharp whetstone
do you have to get it from a vender Mo?
the blunt one is called a weightstone
k ty
is it worth making a alchmest trinket berfore BIS acure

niiice
people buy those
only to be fools by playing M+
but I don't care fools part with their money
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just gotta execute everything before the other padd specs get to padd and then all of us were equally shit on single target ๐
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this must mean assa is 2x better than balance and ele ๐
hey, whats the ring tech for not need crests for rings? equipping the ring in both slots, deleting it, getting another and equipping again?
heard they were actually pretty damn strong rn
their tier looked so busted before the nerfs lol
Well it was bugged
yeah sub can be pretty fun tbh
but yeah was trying outlaw and it is just not doing even similar damage to assa
not sure what the deal is, probably just tuning
wow, i know they can fall off in big packs
but yeah i saw their numbers for raid as well as patchwork stuff
insane
seems to be in the same kinda area enhance is
yeah it doesnt do well in big aoe
so its overall isnt that high
yeah, but tbh its doing work where it actually matters
its very fun too
yeah the jade lightning talent feels so strong
Yes
Havoc doesnt do great aoe though its kinda mid
But very good funnel cleave and st
yeah that new funnel talent is nice
Assa does more overall dps
But you can be abit problematic on hard Bosses when u do tank damage
Don't even play it ๐
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
inb4 they make tea just a passive on ur shivs
hahaha
L
great talent
very good to use when you cant have uptime/theres low hp adds you need to burst
Just go full raid st with spatter in m+ like me. Still better aoe than many classes ๐ค
Not it
you have the most op aoe talents in the game
ic,sob and ct
and you dont want them?
Bro rather do 150k more st but 1mil less overall
Boss dps is where the men are made ๐
Play sub then
having 5 more minutes on the timer is more manly
The bird is the word
๐คจ
Sub is fun. Itโs just less fun than assa
Assa will always be the shit

Just hope the damage will be competetive
Does the MEchano-core amplifier just come from spamming lvel 8 delves?
Is there a reason that a 649 Signet of the Priory sims 22k DPS worse than a 639 Skardyn? The on use amount of Mastery is lower on the Priory but that's only 50 Mastery
Use latest instead of weekly or nightly on raidbots
whats the essence you get with 2k rio for ?
1 catalyst charge
just gives you a catalyst charge
I rightclicked it and it disappeared
ahhh
dont you get an extra hc item ?
like last season
or is that with 2,5k rio
nah they changed it
Makes the caveman brain happy
i tried this at cinderbrew +10... idk i cant hang with the big boyz
bit of a weird question but if you ended up with 2 of the same trinket at the same ilvl, would that count towards the crest discount for upgrading other trinkets?
Nop
Needs to be two seperate ones
Or atleast thats how it was in the past, so presumably nothing changed
yeah probably works the same way still
Unique blocks it
the idea wasnt to equip them both at the same time
but to equip one in one slot, unequip it, and equip the other in the other slot
if the situation ever even occured
but blizzard hates fun
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/9Hwz8XVvWLFaQ7m2?fight=last get someone to go over this with you
i'm sure your rotation wasn't perfect
I tried a cleave build and it was pretty aids Iโm ngl
i came in my pants
but like
i also have house of cards
sadge
idk if i should like
somehow setup that
I did top damage with it in ToP 10
i use prio on DM, and then the other trinket on KB
But they likely sucked
double active for assa sounds like worst in slot not gonna lie
I mean yeah so did I hit it still sucked
i tried the bleed build (with KB and wire) last night for the first time and hoooly
it's very nice
i tried the hybrid buikd in 9 priory...i think i am sticking with bleed...
build*
until told otherwise but the greats
or GOATS
@balmy condor Kindly requesting more cat cameos in videos kthx
Gladly if he doesnโt fuck me over by walking all over my shit 
He can do no wrong. Your shit was in the wrong spot
True my bad
this isnt my log
i gotta fix my ui i always forget about it
man
im surprised like
we had 5 minutes in that 9 prio on 2nd boss
with 5 deaths
felt like it wasnt even gonna time 
im not even sure how the soak mechanic works still
I just run in and soak one and hope we dont blow up

the soak mechanic is like
30 seconds to soak all of them
it does AoE burst on impact to all
and gives you like
a 600k/s dot?
idk that boss is cringe, thats all I know
it was the second meadery in the same log woops
you cant precloak it, but you can grab all the dots - pop like feint+evasion to not die
and then cloak it
to remove the dot itself
I like the final boss, the turn away mechanic is fun and interesting
the last boss is so annoying
wait have i been cloaking for nothing 
you cant precloak
yes
i figured that out
it works just like the dot from siege
cant precloak that one either
besides the 1 second "all damage negate"
i learned this the hard way
but ive only done 7s and not any higher there so
although good to know i can soak first then cloak the dot off
yeah
you could do 2 tbh
or all of them if you wanna risk it
but people in PUGs will eventually try to grab themselves
theres a delay though right?
like you stand in the soak for a bit until u get launched
yeah so if u wanna soak more, you are dotted while waiting
pretty much
all in all, I am glad I am not a high key pusher cause I feel the keys im gonna do at priory are gonna be fun
at the top end though it feels like it will be awful
if you wait until next week, itll prolly be easier
oh im not having any struggle with it atm
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sNz9xWQAoVakxzT67ZDSac seems giga to craft dagger eh
prio trinket seem to be slight downgrade to champ HoC
crazy actually
they should be like equal no?
with priory also having extra utility if other people are wearing it ๐
just full stack the raid with it ๐
rofl
its equal for him too he just read it wrong

yeah
LOL
man idk if i wanna catalyst yet or not
Yeah I kinda wanna send both charges for 2 piece
But got heroic raid tmrw so would maybe be very grief
same
SURELY i get 2 piece
were doing sprocket
surely i get the back
AND the chest set piece
I joined a guild for this season, otherwise I would not have been spamming m+, and instead been pugging heroic
man
i joined a guild like
mid ovi prog out of not even having curve
and then i somehow got CE

this is my first time experiencing season start and I gotta say I enjoy it even if its very degen
like people in this game are freaks
the degeneracy is the fun part
I sent a cata charge because I am not in any position to get 4pc from raid
i actually got 2p from raid somehow lmao
Do we break 4p at any point? and no I don't have new 2p
Were loot counciling the tokens to a healer over me
Still 0p, tier set next week maybe
i just wanna get 2p from raid

Okay well thatโs when you would break it
then i can send 4pc from cata
I'd like the 2p but ye, loot council says nah
got this in my bag
And the raid leader said if i send my catalyst charges he'll smack me
optimal would be heroic chest and then I will just catalyze legs that I have
Hate to tell you, that wonโt do it
So we only break 4p when we have the new 2p?
i was really good at sucking so my lootcouncil gave me 2p
but we also got like
an absolute fuck ton of zenith
like i think we got 2 pieces that werent zenith
scuffed pic sorry
Do we get cata charges every week now?
Yes, item level on 2 pieces wonโt magically make up like a 4% dps difference lmao
Like min without any raid drops we should be 3 piece next week?
isnt it every other week still?
I thought it was every other week
or am I dumb
May be wrong though
yeah it's every 2 weeks with spark
spark -> charge -> spark -> charge and so on
i think they're both the same week now
oh
yeah
since we have 1 of each first week
its spark+charge -> nothing -> spark+charge -> nothing
boring!
honestly @balmy condor you should give my guildmates a stern talking to
i get pressed to swap to sub only cause its """""better"""""
ive told them to talon e but idk, still wont stop annoying me :D
thanks for coming to my ted talk
just tell them if they want CE only last bosses matters and sin PUMPS
also tell them to talon E (in game on summoners rift)
maybe they need to akshan swing off the howling abyss
league detected

containment breach
yeah ill just mirror woxtoxic
Unfortunately if you also play sub, you would not want to replace cause 4p S1 is too good
depends, for me breaking 4p was still worth on sub too
but my s1 tier was all 4/6 heroic so piss ilvl
+20 ilvl I suppose
+10 ilvl wont make it
was +40 ilvl for each slot for me lmao
Is priory better than transmitter
why are the alloys so cheap rn???
for sub, maybe
if you're going from mythic s1 to normal/hero s2 then yeah prob not worth
for assa no
wait is transmitter better than priory on sin?
can be
never got a transmitter DONT CARE

imagine not stealing the transmitter from the dk AND the mage in the guild
no transmitter gang
faith is a prison in the end
I was not in a guild and did 36 heroic kyvezas over 2 rogues and 1 warrior and never got it from boss or vault

honestly tho I just wanna hit raid bosses instead of m+ stuff
parses are more fun then m+ score 
me spending 20 hours in m+ so i can spend 5 hours hitting bosses
25hours engagment time for blizz
they won
Is there ever any case where we would use fan of knives as a builder with only 1 target?
with clear the witness proc or when you are on 6 combo points with darkest night up @acoustic finch
is that 6CP thing purely to do with energy cost / not wasting CPs?
ye
15 energy > some tiny amount of damage, makes sense
in raid its +-0 though right? so whatever kinda
Makes sense, thank you
tho theres is a chance you ""might"" be wasting cp
deathstalker haters when they have to choose between overcapping on cps or using an aoe ability in st
I like pressing CT in m+ single target cause I love bleed damage
if im low on energy
i mean maybe wasting 1 CP vs definitely wasting 1 CP and maybe more is kinda the same
if it's wasted it doesn't matter if its 1 or 4
so its really just energy dif

this is actually worth tho
yes
they're just saying they like it
there are people who dont like pressing ct on st
i dont really get why, its just another bleed
single target purists hate this one simple trick!
You should. 1.5M CT ticks in ST (rookery first boss)
hmm use my gildeds to craft now or should i hold them
craft dagger
and ur set
I have two champion daggers from raid (yes i am lucky)
Should i craft dagger or something else
true, even if there's a dagger in vault, i need two anyway
3P + 2P right now
Memes aside, the only place i run the "good build" right now is Theatre. Literally a cleave dungeon.
anyone know any good youtube guides for assass?
its a ability that is literally supposed to NOT be used on ST
ita entire desing is around that

ok
but its a button
doesnt disrupt your rotation
doesnt feel shit to play around
it does
it might be this weeks affix
it replaces one envenom
but the only thing I look forward to on bosses
is the orbs spawning so I get a big CT
its not like when destro had to use rof in st and pray the boss doesnt move out of it (it always did)
dot class uses dot
more news at 5
people complain about it being envenom the spec, and then also complain when another finisher is pressed....

is the bleed build in + for the lower keys or its looking good all the way up?
people here have been doing 10s with it fine this week
as people start pushing higher and higher the low boss damage might end up being an issue, but thats also just a sin issue in general not bleed build specific
the only ethical finisher is SnD, as god intended
if you play swords you get to press evis some times
im so hard
same but
I sent crests on hero track knife before crafting for some reason... gg
i wasn't sure i was going to find a group to get gilded so upgraded my hero
crazy work
I think CT in single target for 1 off-meta build in 1/2 the pve content is fine
it's literally BLEED build idk
doesn't bother me
!wa
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am I crazy or feint doesnt work for half of the aoe abilities this dung pool?
idk seems fine to me
pump!
5 bill looking clean
pump!
pump!
How do you deal with adds on 1armed bandit ? u just swap to them with 0 bleeds / no DT mark on them ?
!up
Rupture it and then spatter off boss. Let the specs that can ez cleave do it
So it's a guild issue ? RL is complaining that adds dont die fast enough
Sounds like it, other specs should clear easily (Since when do people miss the opportunity to pad on a raid boss???)
Is there a WeakAura to highlight nameplates of targets who have Garrote/Rupture/Both?
hello is the new 2set better than the old 4set?
2+2 is good
Should I change it only when I have the 4th set?
ok thanks
bleed build good
Fun to just shiv whenever I want without kb
Itโs also kinda nice to just not give a crap about kb
Yeah. Just blast big dam every pack. No cds
and also doing some mechanics and letting envenom drop is whatever, doing big damage on the other side of the room
Shiv when bleeds are up. Shiv when mobs hit 35% watch them all die. Shiv shiv shiv
This is my 6 priory I tested bleed build on
Ye olde fancy meters thou hast sire
Indubitably ๐ง
Man I call the bleed build chinese ONE time
And now whispyrs mentioning it in his video
Gimme a break
bleed build = chinese build?
@subtle tundra 
Fuck not like this
wasn't just you
is there more than one way to do the bleed build?
I mean there's plenty of talent swaps yes
Pulled this with hybrid in a priory 11
I wonder what bleed build pad would have acheived hmm
starting to get this figured out some
He just came back to the game hahaha
No embelisments, no trinkets, no tier
Lad was fighting
I mean heโs already announced his departure with his name





