assassination

[grave osprey]

Long as you got bleed build you good

[buoyant herald]

you either need transmitter

or you have it and have to use it

🤢

[worldly bridge]

yeah i dont have it and it feels like shit compared to the other rogue in the group

PROBBLY SKILL ISSUE IK

[buoyant herald]

for me it is 😂

[worldly bridge]

but ill blame it on transmitter

[buoyant herald]

it's basically spymasters for sub

[worldly bridge]

gl convincing the bois to try and kill kyveza for my transmitter lol

[buoyant herald]

in terms of power

my 626 transmitter sims 0.5% behind a 665 house of cards

[worldly bridge]

yeah bloodmallet data is insane. its litterally better than most heroic trinks

[balmy condor]

leave it to blizzard to make 90 second classes and then not make 90 second trinkets

[buoyant herald]

🙃

[worldly bridge]

top 3 trinks according to bloodmallet

[grave osprey]

Im a 60 second man

[grave osprey]

No scardyns ?!

[worldly bridge]

This is sub data

[viral aurora]

when/how do you replace or break your 4 set from season 1?

[grave osprey]

🙃

[true rapids]

whats the rec ilvl jump to go from 2p2p to 4p?

[balmy condor]

like 670 probably

but there's no real recommendation

cause that's not how anything works

you just swap when its better

[cerulean walrus]

What is a sim?

That’s a game, right?

[worldly bridge]

Sin data looking much smoother // well balanced

[balmy condor]

signet and junkmaestros is gonna go up

[true rapids]

ive simmed with the pieces I have dont wanna sim on what might drop in raid

[balmy condor]

4 pc sucks compared to 2+2 is what it is

[true rapids]

figured as much wont sweat it unless it gets changes

[worldly bridge]

For sin? sub ? both ?

[balmy condor]

for sin, like I care what sub does

not my circus not my monkeys

[cerulean walrus]

Based

[worldly bridge]

i just passed on heroic junkmaestro, i was like meh, not a huge upgrade

[gilded oasis]

never pass, hoard all gear in case balancing changes

say every piece is bis

[worldly bridge]

i mean id roll in a pug for sure but this was a guild run and someone else wanted it bad

i remember this thing in S1 was omegabugged first couple week

anyone checked if they forgot to fix it ? 😂

[balmy condor]

they fixed it during season 1

[worldly bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/roman-roy-jealous-angry-angry-look-succession-gif-1317768538820840230

[balmy condor]

wasn't even that good honestly it just wasn't doing split damage

[worldly bridge]

it looks like a fine trink still

wanted to ride bees all over the place. unlucko

[naive crane]

if we do the cyres circlet ring trick, we have to destroy and rebuy the ring?

[analog field]

Can someone explain the ring trick in detail? I am afraid xd

[zenith tree]

What is the "ring trick"?

[naive crane]

you can get upgrade a ring to 658 without using crests

[analog field]

you need a hero ring?

[hearty reef]

when the demise

is sudden

[fallow canopy]

so my 4p is simming quite lower than my 2p+2p am I stupid or that's just the world we are living in rn?

[balmy condor]

congrats you are everyone

[fallow canopy]

that's the world we are living in rn I see well

I understand your name now at least

[static geyser]

why is 652 dfc neck simming this lower than crafter 636

[balmy condor]

probably because you are simming dungeonslice and comparing a neck that has vers

[static geyser]

so in practice it isnt actually liek that or only in raid setting it is better

[balmy condor]

well vers is bad and mastery is very good

so idk what you mean

[royal lantern]

did a +10 floodgate

had to run out and go full 100% ST raid build for the 3rd boss

[static geyser]

idk i saw this nekc being bis on wow head guide

[balmy condor]

yes

and you understand that doesn't mean shit, correct?

[static geyser]

wym

its your guide

[balmy condor]

yes

it is

and the bis list is useless

just like every other guide

what am I supposed to do about that

[static geyser]

k then nvm

[haughty flicker]

lmao

[balmy condor]

god I love bis lists

[brazen sluice]

in bleed build do we still run the tea shiv macro?

[balmy condor]

everywhere, yes

[brazen sluice]

kk ty

[winged quail]

hey I ran a sim and these gloves simmed 5k dps over the ones listed for me. Will you be updating the bis list now?

[balmy condor]

yeah gotchu

what if we had like a bis list right, but it was for each character

and when you got upgrades, you could take the stuff in your bags

and compare it to see if it changes your bis

[fallow canopy]

crazy concept ngl

[balmy condor]

and then like maybe it could also tell you how much of an upgrade it was?

idk just spitballing

[winged quail]

you mean I'd have to put in a few seconds of work to know if something is good for me?

stupid ass idea

do it for me

[balmy condor]

okay okay okay but hear me out right

we can also have like a thing that really quickly says agi > crit = mast

and people who can't be fucked to put in work for the last 0.3% dps

can just use that

[winged quail]

is haste and vers bad then??

[hasty viper]

Okay but what if I want vers?

[balmy condor]

I'm gonna kms

in fortnite

[winged quail]

I'm rerolling from Fury and all my gear has haste and strength, is it fine for assa too?

[balmy condor]

yeah just make sure you craft a dagger with crests

or don't

idk, I don't read guides

[gaunt quiver]

I thought we stacked int.

[nova aspen]

guide writer rewriting his guides in the chat?

never seen that before

[hasty viper]

If I craft a dagger with leech and avoidance is that fine?

[balmy condor]

I'm crowdsourcing my bis lists

that way I can get the same questions

and the same confusion

and the same misinfo

BUT!

I get to blame everyone else for it if I crowdsource it

[winged quail]

hold patreon polls for each slot and make bank at the same time

[royal lantern]

allright, thats enough m+ for this week

[balmy condor]

top twitch donator at the end of the month gets to change 1 item in the bis list

[radiant raven]

Does it have to be a good item

[balmy condor]

bis list becomes unrecognizable by 11.1.7

[royal lantern]

can i donate so you make the BiS list have 34% crit

[balmy condor]

honestly I think it might already hold on

ah nah

28%

next season next season

trust

[royal lantern]

34% will never die

[azure owl]

Cant wait to make the BiS weapon for assa a 2h axe

[balmy condor]

I think the funniest thing about this is that it wouldn't even make the bis list less accurate

a 2h axe would just give you the same amount of info as me putting any dagger in there

[hollow river]

!tott

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[azure owl]

Would you say that the trinkets are at least somewhat accurate tho?

On that list

[balmy condor]

yeah I mean I guess

the fucked thing is that I have to do 3 lists, one for overall, one with items only from the raid, one with items only from m+

but the bis list itself is aimed at single target, not m+

so like in theory I would need to do 6 bis lists, 3 for single target and 3 for m+

[dawn heath]

just real quick

is this what i wanna craft?

[balmy condor]

trinkets are kinda finnicky cause like do I put eye of kezan into the bis list even though it's probably shit for m+?

probably shouldn't

so I don't

but then it's good so like what do

is what it is though

they're good enough at a glance

it's just when people start to over-analyze and hyperfocus on it that it gets messy

[haughty flicker]

time to start paying whispyr to change the bis list to whatever pieces i need

so i can click bis on lootcouncil

instead of upgrade

[vestal cliff]

Thats so smart

[severe meadow]

Looks like a dagger to me

Missing int tho

[vestal cliff]

[gritty laurel]

i need all the int i can get tbh

[hearty reef]

when the tempest

is crimson

[royal lantern]

wait what

10% global nerf to m+

[balmy condor]

yah

[severe meadow]

And a ton of other changes

[haughty flicker]

ye

[severe meadow]

Good stuff

[haughty flicker]

time to grind

[royal lantern]

nah fuck it

i just did enough

no more m+ for me

[balmy condor]

I think cinderbrew prolly needs more but we'll see

[royal lantern]

i can do things now that are not shit

[balmy condor]

you did eight 10's already?

gamer

[royal lantern]

1

what else

im not mental

[balmy condor]

but the vault

[haughty flicker]

i havent even made it to 10s yet and i already want to stop

[balmy condor]

[haughty flicker]

keep going

[balmy condor]

I will

I am having fun

[haughty flicker]

wtf

[royal lantern]

oh yeha cool, getting 2 wrists and a ussles aoe trinket

worth it

[dawn heath]

i have not looted any upgrades the last 3 days

[royal lantern]

got the floodgate trinket, a wrist, chest/legs/head for catalyst that i will do after reset day

thats enough

[dawn heath]

its been a colossal waste of time

getting absolute air after running 3days of m+

[haughty flicker]

at least you have the memories

[naive crane]

guys, how do i get my ring back to 658 if i deleted it?

[balmy condor]

the vendor

[royal lantern]

im gonna be honest, thats why i dont spamm farm it like crazy anymore

THAT feeling is the absolute worst

you just look back and think "man i wasted so much time for nothing"

[dawn heath]

yea

i had already done 8 10s by day 1

the last 2 days has been 20+ 10 keys for just +3 ilvl on boots

thats all i've gotten

[gray raven]

Whisp still doing bleed in 10s?

[balmy condor]

yah but I'm taking kb

[dawn heath]

what is bleed

[spice spire]

AP Zoldyck’s

[gray raven]

so drop doomblade and bone spike for ironwire/kings

[balmy condor]

yeh

[gray raven]

word i was thinking that

cool

[balmy condor]

iron wire feels insane so far ngl

[gray raven]

yeah i love it

[haughty flicker]

i was actually missing it

gonna try ironwire kingsbane maybe

be slightly less afk on bosses

[balmy condor]

oh it probably won't help with that

[gray raven]

how we endded up double vanish bleed is wild, and it's so fun

[balmy condor]

kingsbane is like a solid 3.5% of my damage overall

[haughty flicker]

lmao

[balmy condor]

shit is zdps

[haughty flicker]

okie just for ironwire then tbh

somehow ive avoided every prot paladin in existence

i need the silence

[balmy condor]

yeh

[dawn heath]

I only did like 3 keys on the Rogue

[balmy condor]

did a 7 last night for trinket spam

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923750073499648/1347499380068061204/image.png?ex=67ccb4d7&is=67cb6357&hm=5ff2eebdd996afdff4355198cf249fa32492f8e40d5e01cf63d7f6b31e7f26ea&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=646&height=372

and kb lost to fok and clear the witnesses

incredible stuff

[haughty flicker]

it beat hunt them down

[dawn heath]

Hm

Ct looking mad high

[gray raven]

rip nature damage

[dawn heath]

Caustic was still 2xin my ct for me

[haughty flicker]

so i guess we ignore the shiv with kb rules and just continue playing around bleeds then

[balmy condor]

based, capstone doing more than auto attacks except can't even say that because if you add the autos to hunt them down it loses again

[gray raven]

they will rework it for legion remix

[royal lantern]

be happy

[balmy condor]

yeh honestly the shiv either lines up in opener or DM or I don't care about it

[royal lantern]

on most boss fights, hnt them down is like #4-#5 of my dmg

[dawn heath]

Imagine having tier

[royal lantern]

[balmy condor]

yeh the single target is so horrid

I went into a boss fight without DM and I was legit losing to the prot war until got my cooldowns back around 25%

[royal lantern]

@balmy condor you are a cat now??

[balmy condor]

and then I managed to squeak back

meow

[royal lantern]

first zeross and now whisp

tbf

prot warrior is giga broken in dmg rn

prot doing more aoe dmg then arms/fury is......yeeeeeeeeehhaaaaaaa

[haughty flicker]

i think i'd prefer a pally tbh

[royal lantern]

why did they buff tank DAMAGE again?

[balmy condor]

Cause tank damage wasn’t scaling and they buffed aggro and it wasn’t enough

[dawn heath]

Assa would be so good if the st was just a tad but better in keys

[balmy condor]

It’s just the classic pendulum from blizzard

Shit tanks can’t hold aggro

So they buff aggro

And shit tanks still can’t hold aggro

[dawn heath]

Spec is just unviable due to st dam

Vengeance sigil of flame and throw glaive is bugged and doenst generate any threat half the times

[fast mural]

yea only, i think the most viable is to change specs dependably on the key

[dawn heath]

And its been like that for 2 expansions

They dont fix it

[hoary remnant]

https://clips.twitch.tv/create/KitschyNiceCrabSquadGoals-gFKZMeOcx1ts2gPr

confirmed its over

[balmy condor]

Realistically once pushing actually starts you don’t play assa cause the boss dam I’m pretty sure but for the piss keys and general population doing vault keys it’s an aoe monster

[dawn heath]

Yeah its crazy

Its fine for weeklys cause your Bosses arent 5 minutes

Id say Assa is cracked on low keys like 10s

[fast mural]

yea i am top dmg every key with Sin

[royal lantern]

has been since TWW launch

[fast mural]

but still when you swap to sub and go to boss

it feels so damn good

[royal lantern]

sudden demise hard carries low stuff

[balmy condor]

Yeah problem is you can’t swap sub for every boss and then swap back

[dawn heath]

I just outdpsed my premades mains when i was gonna log into my Rogue and try a key

[balmy condor]

[fast mural]

pepega

it would be nice

eh guys just a sec i am goin gout

brb

[dawn heath]

Like i did 3mil in darkflame cleft in 639 with all s1 gear

[balmy condor]

Being able to swap specs for bosses and stuff is degeneracy that already makes spec leaderboards kinda fucked

[royal lantern]

that was a normal thing in high necrotic wakes btw

[balmy condor]

Idk

[fast mural]

ik @royal lantern

but he said every boss

not a sigle one

[haughty flicker]

play with a warlock, get a summon before and after every boss to swap between sin and sub

bis rogue gaming

[dawn heath]

It wasnt really normal either only 2-3 rogues bothered to respec

[balmy condor]

Blizzards gotta pick a side on the spec swapping back and forth like if we’re gonna limit talent and gear swapping actually limit it

But leaving loopholes is just why

[haughty flicker]

yeah it is kind of weird they just ignore it

[royal lantern]

thats 56% of the people that actually bother with high lvl m+

[slate crown]

[spice spire]

Okay but hear me out

[haughty flicker]

no

[spice spire]

GIGA haste aoe build for more bleed ticks for more sd damage

Sauce

[hollow river]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1346745738532491296/New_Project.jpg

[balmy condor]

so basically what we're doing now but worse

[worn badger]

assuming the bleed build is the one on wowhead ?

[balmy condor]

yes

but yeah idk haste is weird

cause in every other game I can think of, making your dot tick faster is insane value

except wow

one would think like oh, bleed giga dam means haste giga dam for more tick more dam faster better

and then haste value in aoe is actually mariana trench

[severe meadow]

I had someone in the guild ask me why I didn’t want haste to make bleeds better and I was like who knows man

Blizzard coding or something

[balmy condor]

it's not really coding it's just efficiency

[severe meadow]

Code it to be more efficient

[balmy condor]

haste % per point isn't good enough to keep up with mastery % per point or crit % per point after you get energy saturated in aoe

like if you had 100 stat to allocate, 100 haste will never give even remotely the same damage as 100 mast even after like 3 DRs

I think mastery per point is like 65% higher than haste in terms of the damage on any given bleed

[haughty flicker]

i never thought about it but yeah it is weird that haste is so bad for dots

does any dot class like haste

unholy but idk if they even count

they just happen to have dots while pets beat shit to death

boomkin maybe

[balmy condor]

yeah but boomkin haste value comes from gcd and caster shit

[haughty flicker]

yeah true

[balmy condor]

direct haste impact on dots is just disgustingly low compared to other sources

and in like path of exile or diablo or whatever, the reason why it's so strong is because it's a multiplier when adding another damage source sucks

like you have 50,000% increased bleed damage

going to 51,000% isn't that great

but 10% faster bleed is insane

so it's also just opportunity cost, which doesn't really happen in wow

all the numbers are too tame

[dawn heath]

Bros writing a paper on wow stats

[gray raven]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[hot field]

So, clarification, when it comes to CDs, do you DM first, then Garrote/Rupture? or Apply Rupture/Garrote then DM?

[runic hinge]

doesn't matter

[balmy condor]

that being said you do kinda want to have dots rolling before dm

there just isn't a difference interaction wise

[fast mural]

here we go

[balmy condor]

holy hell he's big

[fast mural]

i destroy keys with 653 ilvl now

[brazen sluice]

do u mind if i ask? in which sim does bleed build sims highest? Dslice?

[boreal mason]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/FX6rgVYWwkNc9bh4?fight=7&type=casts&view=timeline&source=622
guys has someone a idea why he uses sometimes 2 times ambush?

or why he used garrot and rupture just one time?

he deald so muuuuch more damage than me but idk what i did wrong

[balmy condor]

well if we're talking about the first pull, the second ambush is applying caustic

[boreal mason]

but caustic comes from mutilate

🤔

[balmy condor]

it works with ambush

you can apply it with either

the first pull is also basically 3 mobs

[restive falcon]

NEW BUG IN PRIORY

CANT STEALTH

[balmy condor]

so he has no need to do more

[restive falcon]

u can stealth after 2nd boss dies

[boreal mason]

does it inflict the hero mark?

[balmy condor]

wdym

[severe meadow]

Deathstalker's mark?

[balmy condor]

that's what the first ambush is

from stealth

[boreal mason]

yeah thats the name

[severe meadow]

Yes ambush from stealth applies it

[boreal mason]

i know my question is can it reset the stacks if you apply it again

yes it deals more damage

[gleaming cedar]

Thoughts on rik reverb and adds if boss isn't being stacked cleanly on them ?

[humble verge]

giga ilvl

[boreal mason]

is it important where i stand when i cast fan of knifes?

[gleaming cedar]

We are having add damage problems, should I just go it a solo add, should I just rupture and spatter off a barrel add in the group? (instead of the boss since its not stacked)

[severe meadow]

Gotta get those numbers up

[humble verge]

YEAH I WISH I GOT LOOT

[boreal mason]

have they changed something about the energy costs? it feels like i m faster out of energy and tea

[severe meadow]

Is this a question about AoE or ST

[severe meadow]

Ive yet to get any good trinkets but I got a lot of other things

[boreal mason]

no or is it important after i used garrot garrot rupture rupture and the dots expired to refresh them with vanish? i never did it last season it worked for me to do that 1 time per pull and after i went into the deathmark/kingsbain combo
if my english is not good enough i would like to go into voice chat then its easier to explain myself
is here maybe someone german? 😄

[tawdry halo]

Assuming you’re talking about AOE/M+, it’s fine to tab target and rupture everything without vanishing

your vanish charges are there so you can refresh your ruptures and garrottes in a couple of globals so it’s a kind of “assess the situation” type deal and see if there’s enough mobs with enough health to make it worth it

[haughty flicker]

mouseover op

[tawdry halo]

Those of us with fine motor skills can use a mouse over macro fr fr

[haughty flicker]

pff, i just spin my cursor around on the pack and hope it hits something

but if i tab away im never managing to click on mark target again

[boreal mason]

do u mean to automaticly do garrot if the enemy has no garrot just by hovering over him

[tawdry halo]

Yep

[boreal mason]

thats broken i need the makro!

[balmy condor]

if you ambush the same target the stacks don't refresh

[haughty flicker]

i dont even use macros for it anymore, blizzard made it a setting you can turn on baseline now

ive seen some people say it doesnt work well but ive never had any issues with it

[boreal mason]

can u show me where?

[boreal mason]

.

[haughty flicker]

combat>mouseover cast, about 2/3 of the way down the list

[haughty flicker]

can set it to either only happen with a modifier key or just naturally

[balmy condor]

I can't deal with mouseovers

nameplates move too much

[ebon cloud]

LMAOOO

[haughty flicker]

ye i dont use them for more important things

but being in the general area of a group of mobs that need rupture refreshed normally works lol

[boreal mason]

if i m not doing something wrong it doenst work for me aswell

just hover over a new target and press rupture right? its not that complicated

[celest helm]

cant seem to find it, what ilvl is it worth going 2set/2set

[boreal mason]

guys what is your experience cast shiv directly after kingsbain or half of the dottime?

[haughty flicker]

if you have 2 charges you use one just before and one when that expires

if you only have one then its last 8 seconds

[boreal mason]

k

guys the rogue gets all of his dps with caustic splatter right? all he do is rupture and garrot on enemys for more energy regeneration. and crimson temprest for more dps but thats all right?

[buoyant herald]

That’s about it yeah

[boreal mason]

but how can u use it only for rupture and not for your other abilities?

doesn't that mean you always have to keep an eye on your mouse pointer?

[haughty flicker]

i guess, but i genuinely cant think of a single instance where i've ever had an issue of it

you can just turn off that setting and use a mouseover macro instead though

something like this but replace gouge with rupture

also rip gouge

[slate crown]

based mouseover casting default gang

[brazen sluice]

is it normal that the bleed build doesnt sim high for me in every aoe/Dslice sim i do?

[balmy condor]

I mean how high is high

it's within a couple % like everything else

[brazen sluice]

like 5% behind the past season build

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xxXoYoDotWbJ1fT5cdmoZ8

[balmy condor]

yeah that's reasonable

it's like 3% for me

but that's kinda in the range of expected

[brazen sluice]

aha , but even if do pure aoe . like 8t 1min8t 5mins 5t 1 min 5t 5mins its still behind

so idk

i thought it may be ahead in pure aoe

[balmy condor]

correct yeah that seems reasonable too

[brazen sluice]

kk ty

[spice surge]

[balmy condor]

bro is gaming

dw bout it

[brazen sluice]

its sub treinkets but i think prior is simming wrong so

[balmy condor]

its fixed

[brazen sluice]

oh rly

[balmy condor]

yes I fixed it this morning

[brazen sluice]

apperciate the effort ❤️

[dense jolt]

in general should you avoid going into diminishing returns or is it more of a just sim it

[balmy condor]

just sim it

everything in blue in that screenshot it pointless word vomit

[dense jolt]

ty

[brave comet]

just to reiterate, off-hand weapon is basically just stats?

[fast mural]

not bad for 10 flood

[royal lantern]

yes

[celest helm]

why does the bis list for assa use the tier helm? wouldnt the tier chest with all that mastery + the crit/mast helm from gallywix or helm from Priory not just be more mastery overall better statted

[balmy condor]

idk probably

I'll change it tomorrow

[upper wraith]

when should we be replacing tier

[balmy condor]

and then have people ask me the opposite

[red schooner]

replace bis list with 'just fucking sim it'

job done

does sim give bigger number? equip it. does sim give smaller number? don't equip it

easy life

[balmy condor]

when it sims higher

[river verge]

new here, sorry - what's the ! command for wago imports

[upper wraith]

nice

[balmy condor]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[river verge]

thanks

[balmy condor]

why does kb suck so bad

[tight sparrow]

Does Deathstalker feels buggy for anyone else this Patch? Feels like it dosent get applied right in M+ when i come out of Stealth or use Ambush

[balmy condor]

out of stealth is fine for me

[tight sparrow]

hmm okay, for it feels like when i just finished a camp i cant apply it out of stealht, has to be the 7 Combo Points one to get it on

[buoyant herald]

isn't a lot of its value being represented by spatter here?

well. some.

[vale lantern]

with the bleed build is ther ea way we take kingsbane as well to help with single target or just give it up

[buoyant herald]

you can drop the mutilate-does-a-bleed and bonespike nodes

and take iron wire for utility and kingsbane for a bit more ST

but ultimately your boss dam is still gonna be bad so

[vale lantern]

so just dont got it

[buoyant herald]

give it a try

maybe it'll feel worth 🤷‍♂️

[vale lantern]

ill just make my hunter do single target damage

ez

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/godfather-massacre-sad-gif-16810633

[buoyant herald]

tbh my performance is SO variable depending on other factors it's often hard to tell if its talents

or how much effect they're having

[vale lantern]

wasnt there someone who ran bleed with kingsbane in a 16 at the end of last season

[buoyant herald]

but i like iron wire so

[vale lantern]

i think i saw talk about it the other night

[gray raven]

Yeah it seriously stinks now. AOE is jamming, are we boomies?

[thorn thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/godfather-massacre-sad-gif-16810633

[runic hinge]

they killed it for s3 df sins

[haughty flicker]

wtf

you cant use the same gif as me

delete this

[thorn thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-conduciendo-gif-24377638

[dreamy rover]

!guides

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
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[dreamy rover]

whispyr i lvoe you

thank for gilde

[manic quartz]

Whispyr plater updated or? ;>

[balmy condor]

I mean yes, but you can add up all the nature damage there, so envenom is 10.8, hunt them down is 2.8, PB/Poison/Corrupt the blood is all aoe stuff that adds to 8%ish, we'll call it 4% to be fair. So all together we're looking at like maybe 17.5% from non-kb and 5% from KB. that means KB is doing 22.2% of the nature dam, that's around 3% of the caustic dam so 8% total?

moves it up one slot to sanguine levels

pog I guess

you know what I played that key to make KB 8%?

I played ttk dtb and dashing

lmao

[haughty flicker]

oh

at first i thought that was bleed build with kb and was disappointed but understood

but with that build and its still that low

hm

nice capstone there

[balmy condor]

and it was a 10 theatre

we ran back a theatre right after and I went arterial and blindside instead

idk

was a key level lower so no fort, not really a great comparison

[haughty flicker]

all kingsbanes power went into envenom

unfortunate

[balmy condor]

but kb just feels like ass lowkey

and like 75% of that kb power is just during deathmark anyway

it's so fucked

[royal lantern]

soooooo

buff envenom?

[dreamy rover]

i think im officially a assasun

[balmy condor]

for keys?

or for raid

[dreamy rover]

for single target he said

[balmy condor]

thank you yes I can read that

[dreamy rover]

lmao

[balmy condor]

for raids assa is probably more single target

outlaw has no burst but if you can get uptime it'll do more

the uptime thing is really the issue most of the time

[dreamy rover]

for raids i'd recommend subtlety or assass

but at the end of the day really you should play what is more fun to you

[ionic hill]

yeah sin is probably better for an easier uptime compared to outlaw and sub rotation

[digital venture]

Is https://www.wowhead.com/item=232883/turbo-drain-5000 champion track better than myth Ara-Kara Sacbrood?
I did simed and it says so but the trinket doesn't even come on Whispyr guide X)

[dreamy rover]

Something i really dont get is assass single target rotation

what do I do when i deplete all my thistle tea charges?

Im extremely new to assass

[balmy condor]

you wait

[dreamy rover]

yhea youre talking to the dude himself

he knows his shit alrighty

[ionic hill]

just stay away from tier lists because its super early in the season lol

[void pecan]

He streams on twitch too. A real goober this whisper.

[dreamy rover]

i wasnt aware. this dude just caught a follow

[left radish]

Hello. I was planning on playing both Sub and Sin this season, but they have slightly different stats they would like. Could I prioritize Mastery and then second go half-half on Versa and Crit? (Planning to play mostly M+, is it different for raiding?)

[dreamy rover]

i mean im also planning on going sub and assass this season

sub mostly for raids and sin mostly for M+

what Im planning to do is have 2 different sets for them.

but @left radish crit isnt too bad for subtlety, idk about vers for sin though

[ionic hill]

I think you will have to swap around versatility and crit but they both like mastery so that should be good

[split grail]

caustic on Reverb?

[ionic hill]

why not Sub for both though

[left radish]

If you play M+, do you not want some Versa so you don't easily die in higher keys?

[dreamy rover]

i do play sub on keys and raids, and also for assas

its just what i feel like is more enjoyable

[ionic hill]

fair

[dreamy rover]

i feel like assassin's damage profile is much cooler for m+

[vale lantern]

in a 9 motherload running the one on wowhead it felt pretty decent @buoyant herald

[left radish]

I like 'em both, but I don't think that I will farm out two different sets for them, since I don't play WoW that much to do that. That's why I was asking if prioritizing Mastery and going halfsies on Crit and Versa is a good idea

[dreamy rover]

wont affect you too much i think

go for it

you can always recraft stuff

but also you can sim it and find the best hybrid set for your needs

but thats alot of effort

[left radish]

I don't really know where I would even start with that. But still, thanks for the help! I hope it works out then

[rain halo]

I have a question about tier sets. Are 2 tiers from season 1 and 2 tiers from season 2 stronger? Or are 4 tiers from season 1 stronger?

[errant heath]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

sorry I was in an 11 motherlode, yeh it's chill, just don't overthink it

[balmy condor]

2+2 is very strong but new 4 piece will beat it eventually

[digital venture]

anyone have any idea about this?

[balmy condor]

yes it's good

it just caps at like

s1 ilvl

so it's shit

[dreamy rover]

if you sim you know answer friend

[storm forum]

Trust the sims

[balmy condor]

it's basically equal to other mid-high tier delve trinkets

which is to say it's not usable

it's like on par with uh

that plume thing from rookery

remnant of darkness from darkflame

[digital venture]

it's just weird cuz it wasn't mentioned on whispyr guide so I didn't know if it was implemented.
I wish I got the purple dagger trinket instead

[balmy condor]

grim codex

that kind of shit

yeah it's not on there cause it's not a pve trinket

[dreamy rover]

everyone wishes for the purple ritual binding knife

[balmy condor]

it's a world quest trinket

we don't put those on guide

[digital venture]

I got it off a bountiful delve 😮

[balmy condor]

oh really

I need to add it then

[digital venture]

yeah! :p

[balmy condor]

aight

into dogshit tier it goes!

[high jetty]

I got one with my map today lol. 🫡

[digital venture]

hahahaha sadge x)

[dreamy rover]

imagine getting shadow binding knife hero track 1st week

[high jetty]

Gonna wear that thing until week 18 when I get house of cards poggers

[balmy condor]

I'll put it at the front of D tier instead of the end how about that

meet you halfway

[bitter solar]

tip of the D but still shafted

[digital venture]

hey, an upgrade is an upgrade

[balmy condor]

I'm expecting maybe one final tuning pass on trinkets

I'd hope so, some of these are really shit

like a good 2/3rds of dungeon trinkets are just absolute garbage

the trinket off sprocketmonger in raid

is like right on par with ovi'nax egg

except it's 40ilvl higher

[drifting cloud]

bro

whispyr im so cooked wheres the whole trinket tier list

i literally cant find it in your guide

[balmy condor]

gear page

under the bis lists

[digital venture]

yeah, we just want a handful of them

[drifting cloud]

oh I didnt scroll far down enough nvm

[digital venture]

scroll all the way down or almost and you'll find it under gear

[drifting cloud]

[balmy condor]

that azerokk heart thing is almost at risk of going into C

but like

I can't collapse the list anymore

[drifting cloud]

the first one in c

[balmy condor]

I already eliminated all of S tier

[drifting cloud]

was outsimming azerok for me at lower ilvl

[balmy condor]

yeh that ones weird

[drifting cloud]

I guess at 13 theyre prob close to even

[balmy condor]

I'm not sure if/how the sims handle the health effect on that one

I would assume "not"

but idk

it's all fucked

all the trinkets are just comparatively worse than s1

[drifting cloud]

how big is even the delve loot pool

[balmy condor]

very

[dreamy rover]

yhea insanely bad trinkets this season

[drifting cloud]

my trinket luck has been insane so far, yeah helps the dungeons got 5-6 items

instead of fucking 10-11 in grimbatol

but Ive gotten 5 items from keys and 3 of them have been trinkets

[dreamy rover]

HERO skaradyn's from S1 = 6.5k mastery for 20sec

HERO House of cards = 7.6k to 9.3k mastery for 15sec

[merry marsh]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[dreamy rover]

insanely worse comparatively

[drifting cloud]

you cant compare the on uses when they dont even have the same cd lol

[balmy condor]

this is 639 in grey 636 in blue

its uh

strange

a lot of delve trinkets and s1 trinkets

very little m+ trinkets

[dreamy rover]

lmao

[balmy condor]

it's legit just signet, seaforium

and then you gotta go down the list hella

[dreamy rover]

i mean ofc the comparison is flawed, but you get the point

[drifting cloud]

but yeah I mean theyre stinky, thats why they had to nerf transmitter and spymasters twice

[cloud basin]

so i take it that this isnt that good lol

[dreamy rover]

idk kinda disappointed me, i love having insanely strong trinkets

season 1 was peak trinket season

transmitter and spymaster's were ridiculously OP

[dreamy rover]

and i find that really strange. they need to buff S2 trinkets and nerf a little the old trinkets

but it does say something when your S1 trinket is almost 40 ilvls lower and still out-performing the S2 trinkets

thats how transmitter was for sub before nerfs

(and btw for sub myth transmitter is still only replaced by hero HoC)

[drifting cloud]

well yeah its the only 90s trinket, but trust me most people would take the dps hit from a normal one just to not have to do the minigame

its the same shit assa had in amirdrassil playing branch on certain bosses

not worth the mental dmg

theyre just going to have to make more than 1 90s cd on use agi/str trinket per patch if theyre making 90s specs

[dreamy rover]

oh for sure, im one of those that would throw my transmitter in the trash as soon as possible

[dreamy rover]

true

[balmy condor]

that's not even on the list

what the fuck

I mean just numerically that looks terrible though

[cloud basin]

i just got it lol

[drifting cloud]

thats the delve curio power

why the hell is it a trinket

[balmy condor]

I mean this is 13 ilvl lower and gives more agi?

obviously it eats secondary

but yours gives dogshit haste

so we'll call it a wash

it also doesn't have any actual stat on it and this has 1300 mast

holy hell that thing looks horrid

[gray raven]

I got this one in a T8 delve : https://www.wowhead.com/item=234821/papas-prized-putter

[balmy condor]

?????????????

isn't that a fucking world chest thing

[gray raven]

I think so?

[balmy condor]

dawg what is the delve droptable

[gray raven]

it's just whatever in delves now?

[drifting cloud]

yeah its a treasure in undermine

[strange python]

I just got a bejeweled curio.. should I be waiting til my vault to decide what to buy from Kari or does it not matter? I’m kinda unsure what to pick

[balmy condor]

I mean you can wait if you want I guess

but you probably wouldn't equip 4 piece anyway

and you have 2 catalyst charges

so idk

probably doesn't matter

complete 2 piece and then afk until you have good ilvl tier pieces

[drifting cloud]

whispyr do you know top off your head the % gain only the 4p from s1

[balmy condor]

just the power?

[drifting cloud]

yeah

[balmy condor]

like 3.2 or something I think

s1 powers were 5/3

s2 are 4/4

that's why the new 4 is so bad

[gray raven]

so we're just brute forcing it with ilevel

[balmy condor]

I think the old 2 was almost 6% after they fixed it

[strange python]

When I simmed it said I should do shoulders and gloves and then keep my 626 chest piece and helm form last set. I’m new to simming so idk if that makes sense or not

[balmy condor]

yeh that sounds reasonable

[strange python]

I’m in the process of learning LOL

[drifting cloud]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rmp9ntzvk3eVx8A27SHURR am I cooked

or is this actually right

[balmy condor]

holy crit starved batman he just like me

yah

you're the second person I've seen that happen to

[drifting cloud]

bro what

[balmy condor]

the old tier legs have infinite mastery and you got circlet/ringworm/sureki

so you're just omega fiending for crit

[dreamy rover]

lmao

thats crazy

[balmy condor]

I think it might also change your signet stats?

let me check

[drifting cloud]

yeah dont overthink it Ive gotten a new ring and trinket since, just saw it in a random droptimizer

and found is very funny

[balmy condor]

oh nah doesn't change signet

but yeah yeah I've seen that happen

it's very strange but its possible

[bronze plover]

morning everyone
I can 4 set with catalyst is it good 4set of this season or 2 + 2 ? (i've read ping message but didn;t get it tbh)

[balmy condor]

sim

no way to know without simming

new 4 is pretty bad compared to 2+2

[balmy condor]

yeh look at that shit

you have double the mast compared to crit

your shit is just starved to hell

and the ilvl pushed it up

[bronze plover]

so we waiting for any buff or we continue with 2+2 ?

[balmy condor]

whatever sims higher

4 piece wins eventually

[bronze plover]

i should sim with top gear ?

[balmy condor]

that is how you sim yes

[bronze plover]

and one more question ideal way is 1 target patchwerk 5 min ?

[balmy condor]

for single target yep

[bronze plover]

tyvm

[strange python]

Ok last question. How do I unlock the heroic items from Kari? By max upgrading a piece of armor or?
(Sorry if these are silly questions)

[drifting cloud]

Im not sure what youre asking

[dreamy rover]

if you drop a curio from normal raid, it'll only allow you to pick from normal tierset items

[last moth]

Hey guys, how do you usw House of Cards, on Cooldown or with an Macro and then together with deathmark ?

[strange python]

OHHH ok!!

[drifting cloud]

macro to DM

[strange python]

Thank you that makes so much more sense :D

[dreamy rover]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

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[dreamy rover]

alright im finally learning the actual rotation..

[cloud basin]

i dead ass forgot they were bringing back the corruption effects as enchants lol\

[balmy condor]

well they just announced that they were last night

or maybe 2 nights ago

[lethal arrow]

How many more priories must I run

[cloud basin]

well hopefully some are worth it

[lethal arrow]

It's skardyns all over again

[rancid shadow]

guys ive been deadass looking for 20mins for a community

where ppl chill in vc

and u can hangout n stuff

[haughty flicker]

[rancid shadow]

but all servers are empty

[haughty flicker]

dont look at the other trinket

[cloud basin]

i need to go farm that still lol, ive been doing my tier 8s for the week

[haughty flicker]

i got it on the first 7 priory i ran

and since im never seeing house of cards we take it

[balmy condor]

would be pretty funny if they add new enchants for a .5 patch and they end up worse

[haughty flicker]

man that would be so sad

[balmy condor]

but kinda who gives a shit they're gonna be RNG shitfiestas anyway

[haughty flicker]

imagine twilight dev coming back and its not even usable

[balmy condor]

fuck corruptions

[lethal arrow]

I've ran like 4 9 priories today

[balmy condor]

it's just rng dumb shit damage

[lethal arrow]

2 drops and it went to a tank and a caster

[haughty flicker]

yeah but its fun

[balmy condor]

is it?

[cloud basin]

nah its okay, gushing wound is gonna work off our mastery right

[haughty flicker]

im too shit to parse anyway so for me yeah

[balmy condor]

twilight dev pulling shit through walls in m+

so fun

[lethal arrow]

They didn't bring back 60% haste corruption

Lame

[balmy condor]

infinite stars proccing 4 times in 20 seconds

and then not proccing for 3 minutes

wowee

FUN

[haughty flicker]

but those 4 seconds are the best 4 seconds of your life

[lethal arrow]

We're gunna be on gushing wound duty

[haughty flicker]

20 seconds whatever

[lethal arrow]

Or tendies

[haughty flicker]

its late i should skeep

sleep

[balmy condor]

I mean gushing wounds is just infinite stars but more consistent

but none of it matters

it's just different flavors of random damage proc you can't control and don't care about

YIPPIE

[haughty flicker]

ye but it looks cool

[lethal arrow]

Hope it comes with the cape debuff too

[balmy condor]

who cares man you're just going to put the thing on your weapon that I tell you to anyway

[lethal arrow]

Oh boy time to dodge this eye!

Yippee

[balmy condor]

it's not like we actually pick things based on what looks cool

[cloud basin]

im clearly jsut gonna shoot purple beams cus they look cool lol

[balmy condor]

raidbots is gonna say play tentacle enchant for 0.2% and everyone goes yes sir

[haughty flicker]

[balmy condor]

and then enchant their tentacles

and it'll just be authority of the depths but tuned 10% higher

[lethal arrow]

Twilight dev once again taking lives in arena

[balmy condor]

insano content

[lethal arrow]

Beam from sky insta kills awc players

[cloud basin]

oh god, pvp with twilight dev going off all the time was insane lol

[young pebble]

Does https://www.wowhead.com/item=219294/charged-stormrook-plume interact with Shiv?

[balmy condor]

and the way blizzard has been pushing patches out, none of them will work until like 3 weeks into the patch

[balmy condor]

no, it's an item

[lethal arrow]

That trinket sucks!

[cloud basin]

i played Spriest at that time so we jsut stacked gushing wound lol

[haughty flicker]

idk

im excited about the patch

cool transmogs

[young pebble]

Yep, unfortunate. Though it's a 649 replacing a 619 blue for me.

[haughty flicker]

horrific visions were pretty fun

[lethal arrow]

Ouch

[haughty flicker]

more rep to grind for number go up

[balmy condor]

horrific visions are fun yeah

[lethal arrow]

U can pre farm the corrupted mementos

[balmy condor]

but god damn I fucking hated corruptions then and I'm gonna hate them now

[lethal arrow]

So if u wanna just buy the shop out

[cloud basin]

visions were indeed fun, im all about transmog that ill more than likely never use because my rogue has used the same transmog now since we got the hooded masks lol

[lethal arrow]

Run them while they're piss easy

[haughty flicker]

no shot they just use corrupted mementos again right

surely its a new currency

[digital spindle]

it is

[lethal arrow]

Yeah it's the same thing according to ptr

[haughty flicker]

i'd still think thats just placeholder

[lethal arrow]

100k mementos for mount

[haughty flicker]

would be really weird to use the same old currency and have people buy stuff without even doing the content

[balmy condor]

yeh they're gonna reset currencies for sure I assume

[cloud basin]

tf they gonna do about the cloak cuz i legit dont wanna do that again

[haughty flicker]

or reset it yeah

[lethal arrow]

Better fuckin not

I still need like 20k for the mount

[balmy condor]

nothing?

why would they need to do something about the cloak

[haughty flicker]

you prob just wont need the cloak

[balmy condor]

yeh

exactly

[cloud basin]

yeah thats what i meant lol

[lethal arrow]

Imagine making ppl do all of nzoth content

To get the cloak

[haughty flicker]

lmao

[lethal arrow]

Lmao

[balmy condor]

cloak just gets disabled and they make it passive

[lethal arrow]

Go do 7 weeks of visions for the upgrades

[balmy condor]

god fuck now I'm pissed again

fuck corruptions

[lethal arrow]

Cloak gets ILVL bumped and now it's bis again

[cloud basin]

i mean time repeats itself lol

[balmy condor]

8.3 was a bastard patch

[haughty flicker]

lmao

[balmy condor]

all of that shit needs to just rot and die

[lethal arrow]

8.3 got me to resub cuz corruptions looked fun lmao

[haughty flicker]

i upset a deep rooted trauma

[balmy condor]

men in black neuralizer it from everyone consciousness

[lethal arrow]

So it's got a place in my heart

[haughty flicker]

ok but have you heard of our lord and savior

probably comes from that leveling/rep event instead of horrific visions but still .5 patch

[dapper halo]

needs more lemon pledge

[hollow river]

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
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[gray raven]

they went full furry

holy

[viscid marsh]

I'm skeptical that my sim says the best gem for me to stack is the masterful emerald in every slot 🤔 Like a 20% DPS increase.... Trust the sim?

[balmy condor]

20%?

you fucked something up

[haughty flicker]

20% dps from gems

[dawn seal]

HELO DID U GUYS MISSED ME

Whats this thing called corupted stuff

[balmy condor]

new weapon enchants in may

[dawn seal]

[runic hinge]

Assa is so fucking fun, holy shit what a spec

[golden loom]

I was dreaming about m+

Its cooked

[runic hinge]

idk why I delude myself into thinking I want to play something else

[drifting cloud]

ok nerd

[runic hinge]

Sorry I like GAMING

[indigo totem]

@viscid marsh what were you simming for, slice but in st talent build? That'll do it

@cloud basin I met a lemon pepper once on hyjal... I wonder

[haughty flicker]

is it just me or does deathstalker mark sometimes act really weird

like i have dn up but sometimes it disappears and puts me on 2 stacks of mark instead

before i use it

i need to start recording this shit to see whats causing it

or if im just losing my mind

[earnest remnant]

@balmy condor on scale from 1 to YAHOO, how much do you hate comcast atm?

[dreamy rover]

lmao

[balmy condor]

what's higher than yahoo

[earnest remnant]

BLIMEY

[balmy condor]

that's it then

[sturdy wasp]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[patent gust]

Is there anything broken with Cev's plater in season 2

[balmy condor]

don't think so but it hasn't been updated since october so it won't have any m+ colors

[snow kindle]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1346745738532491296/New_Project.jpg

[runic hinge]

Is there a new version of yours out

[balmy condor]

yeh I updated mine on monday

[patent gust]

Fair enough, thank you

[runic hinge]

Gotta snag that

[timber meadow]

anyone know what chapter of the msq we need completed to enter the raid?

[drifting cloud]

none

[haughty flicker]

oh i should probably update jundies

[balmy condor]

think you can just walk in yeah

[haughty flicker]

i forgot about that completely lmao

[timber meadow]

ah nice

completing all of them gives a heroic crest tho ya? think i heard that somewhere

[haughty flicker]

completing campaign gives a heroic crest yes

hm

if i update i just lose all my changes though dont i

[balmy condor]

correct

[haughty flicker]

oh but i can just import the colors

ok problem solved

[velvet flint]

Any delve tips, having brann as a tank feels spicy as hell ?

Doing 11s atm

[golden loom]

you deffo need healer brann

[balmy condor]

level the brann more or just simply don't do 11s

tank brann was fine in 11's for me if I just went slow

but going higher than 8 is pretty unnecessary

[golden loom]

yeah 11 scaling felt awful

[indigo totem]

@balmy condor what do use for tricks if you use it at all? The WA smart tricks locked me onto a specific tank in raid and wouldn't swap once a tank died and I'm not sure if I bungled it, usually I use a focus or target of target macro, am I just smooth braining it?

[balmy condor]

I don't use tricks

[cerulean walrus]

Whispyr is a certified Tricks hater

That’s why all of his builds have Blackjack

[balmy condor]

In m+ I can kinda understand, maybe if I have to help pull then sure I'll use the wa macro

but in raids what the fuck are we doing lmao

[velvet flint]

Yea, I am going slow and atm just doing 11s since it feels somewhat more challenging and fun.
Also the bragging rights in my casual guild 😄

But I'll try out healer brann see how that feels

[balmy condor]

tricksing tanks in raid just to feel like we're doing something? or whats the goal

[cerulean walrus]

Tricks the tanks on Rash adds so you feel like you’re doing something

[golden loom]

I just press shroud and tricks prepull and then never think about tricks again during the fight

[runic hinge]

I pressed tricks on the adds going up the ramp on queen

Sometimes

[balmy condor]

does it make a difference when you do vs when you don't

[strange python]

All of this just for your fury warrior to rip Aggro

[balmy condor]

yeah pretty much

[golden loom]

fury burst on pull this season cant be as high as last season though right

[balmy condor]

best argument I've heard for tricks is "I need to pull stuff in m+ for the tank to group"

which yeah fair enough

[indigo totem]

@cerulean walrus tbf, he's a don't waste my time enjoyer, but tricks is handy when I out-aggro tanks, which is often, in pugs, and they suddenly remember their game monitor

[balmy condor]

but like outside of that, what would tricks ever accomplish that a sneeze from a tank can't fix

[cerulean walrus]

I’m also a don’t waste my time enjoyer

[balmy condor]

you're pulling aggro in raids?

[cerulean walrus]

I do that enough on my own

[balmy condor]

from your tank?

you're cooked my guy

that's a leave group angle

[haughty flicker]

lmao

[cerulean walrus]

That’s a say questionable things in chat and then leave angle tbh

[haughty flicker]

tricks is funny as sub at least

[golden loom]

if I pull aggro in retail I am going back to classic

[haughty flicker]

when the pug tank insta releases the perma tricks is still on so the mobs all start running to them

or start evading

[strange python]

Yeah when it decides to give you the hour long buff

[balmy condor]

if I'm pulling aggro as an assa rogue then multiple things have gone wrong, cause for 1, neither of the tanks have aggro in which case what the fuck

[strange python]

[balmy condor]

and 2, none of the burst specs have pulled aggro before me

in which case what the fuck

[cerulean walrus]

[balmy condor]

so your tanks are shit

and so is your dps

so you're fucked

get out of there soldier

[golden loom]

any caster pre-cast surely does way more than assa ambush

[cerulean walrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1255570724861771896/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_2.gif

[balmy condor]

a singular pyroblast from a fire mage

is like the entire first 7 seconds of assa opener

like I cannot comprehend how it is even possible

[haughty flicker]

ngl i never understood why people set up a whole ass wa and macro for tricks

[balmy condor]

I hear these things happening and I don't get it

[haughty flicker]

why not just mouseover party frame weirdos

[balmy condor]

not because I have doubts that people are shitters or anything, well aware

[golden loom]

maybe its people confusing the thing that sometimes happens were u get meleed out of stealth on pull

[strange python]

I do feel like they were talking about m+

But even then man

[balmy condor]

but I just don't understand how the math adds up

[balmy condor]

they weren't, they specified

[strange python]

If my secret tech in cds doesn’t rip Aggro surely a sin rogue doesn’t

[balmy condor]

that's what's messing me up

[haughty flicker]

1 ambush worth of threat or 30% dr for 6 seconds on aoe blind

[bitter solar]

In raid i often get a melee hit from the boss when someone pulls just before the countdown timer and i'm in stealth and done nothing. It's happened to me for a few years, swear its a curse on my character.

[golden loom]

I hate when we wipe cause the tanks need to taunt swap but I have tricks on the other tank and transfer INSANE threat and boss ignores taunt

[strange python]

He did answer to the guy