assassination

[golden loom]

But seems to be gone

[shut aspen]

KB window should be at least 3 or 5 CP for envenoms?

my KB's feel weak af

[timid bramble]

99 first boss heroic 😄

thanks for the tips

but i know it wont last lol

[golden loom]

You always finish on 5+, unless darkest night is up where you force 7
As for KB damage, like 90% of your poison applications are through autoattacks, so as long as you have ur envenom up, and do shivs correctly its mainly crit RNG

[shut aspen]

I normally just do 2 mut and send env.. I think im not paying attention to darkest night

and shiv im sending shiv, 3-5 cp env, then send shiv again in like 7-8 secs

[unique summit]

guys, does anyone have WA for Deathstaker mark/night, For some reason, mine constantly intersects with other rogue's stacks in a raid?

[golden loom]

When you say 3, do you mean envenoming on 3 combo points?

[shut aspen]

yes

with shiv active

[golden loom]

Yeah thats gonna be a big overall loss

You need to keep cycling your deathstalkers mark (finish on 5+), to keep getting darkest night procs

[shut aspen]

I normally try to get 5 cp out but I wasn't sure if the goal was to just send as many env's as possible or try to max cp

[golden loom]

With envenom being such a big part of our damage its very important

[shut aspen]

yea, this is where im fucking it up... the other rogue in my raids env and kb dmg is a solid 20% higher than mine

same spec

[golden loom]

Well as mentioned, you dont actually get more kingsbane damage from spamming envenom

You will be casting enough of them to have 2 stacks of the buff which is the important part

[shut aspen]

I'm newish to sin ST raiding... spent all last season in mythic+ and hybrid spec and I don't think I was ever doing ST correctly

[golden loom]

Yeah would just say main part to focus on is maintaining your bleeds and playing the mark minigame

[shut aspen]

also maybe I need to focus on crit more... im at 20% crit and 62% mastery unbuffed

[golden loom]

Nah dont worry about stats

[shut aspen]

word

im fucking up my mark window too, just doesn't feel right...

[golden loom]

Spam build to 5+ -> slam envenom, repeat, get darkest night -> 7 boom

[shut aspen]

yea, during fights im hitting 7 every ev

not really paying attention to darkest night

[golden loom]

Only force 7 on darkest night, not otherwise

Cause lets say you are on 5 points without darkest night

What happens if you crit a muttilate?

[shut aspen]

right..

[golden loom]

You kinda waste 2 combo points that could have been used after spending

Once it clicks though it plays it self pretty much

[shut aspen]

and I wanna pop mark at the start of the fight AFTER I've got my 1st env out? or pop mark after gar and rupt

[golden loom]

Would recommend just hitting a dummy for a bit, raid ST is very simple when you understand the logic behind it

[faint vessel]

get envenom buff up before slamming the big buttons

[shut aspen]

ok, doing that wrong too

[golden loom]

Yeah bleeds and envenom up, then deathmark shiv kingsbane

[shut aspen]

thanks team, ill hit the dummy when servers back up

[faint vessel]

no 'dry' DM + kingsbanes

single target in raid as @golden loom said plays itself once youre comfortable and know your priorities

[shut aspen]

I sim around 1.5m ST but hit like 800k in new heroic raid, far behind less geared rogue with same spec

and its the env dmg where the difference is

[faint vessel]

that's still a huge gap, are you sure your Kingsbane wasnt parriedd?

[peak bobcat]

Link log

[shut aspen]

my KB dmg is lower as well

[faint vessel]

you might have had a parried KB

[shut aspen]

KB and Env dmg he has me beat on every fight

[tawdry root]

once the opener finally clicked for me, assa is the chillest rotation ever, i love it

[faint vessel]

yeah probably not parried every fight...

[golden loom]

Well envenom is like 35% of our total damage, so if you arent doing the darkest night minigame properly you are nuking your own damage

[faint vessel]

lol i loved playing sin on mythic kyveza, the whole guild is flopping around panicking

[shut aspen]

I'm not, I think that's my issue...

[faint vessel]

im just chilling doing the same thing on repeat, and have cloak for every big bad intermission damage at the end

[shut aspen]

I need to pay attention to darkest night

and sort out my KB and mark windows

[faint vessel]

the only big thing that will ever change what order youre hitting stuff is if you crit a mutilate

youre either mutilating once after the first envenom before big CDs if you crit, or twice if you dont

[shut aspen]

why would that change? sorry, I am not following

[tawdry root]

If you crit mutilate, you get double combo points

[faint vessel]

having the CPs for the next envenom

[golden loom]

sealed fate, gives more combo points when you crit

[shut aspen]

ahhh right

yes

[faint vessel]

you go into cooldowns with enough CP to dump a big envenom

[shut aspen]

understood

[faint vessel]

so like in your opener you can almost play eyes closed, except for that variable

[golden loom]

like my opener on gallywix yesterday was very fast cause I crit on everything

okay I didnt crit the fok

[spice spire]

I’ve lost all trust in you

Wtf

Next you’re going to tell me you’re not an uwucutegirl

[golden loom]

well its like a semi crit cause its a ctw proc..

[spice spire]

[spice spire]

It’s not the same and you know it

[shut aspen]

I'm on the right

that's 1st heroic boss in undermine

[tawdry root]

Your garrote uptime may be low seeing how many more he casted too

[golden loom]

a difference of 7 garrote casts seems weird

[shut aspen]

yea, that's true

[tawdry root]

also remember to improve garrote with vanish during your deathmark for more damage

[analog field]

If I have 4 CP and have already casted shiv I still go for 1 more mutilate(or fok) or slam envenom?

[faint vessel]

if you have 4 CP + supercharger tht will be a darknest night eligible envenom

pretty sure you slam that one

[golden loom]

supercharger doesnt change how you play but its also kinda whatever

[faint vessel]

i think its a neglibile difference if you mut again

[spice spire]

It is it’s literally better to never think about supercharger

[golden loom]

but personally I am pressing muti there

[spice spire]

Same

[faint vessel]

yeah that's been my way of playing, if Ir emember to hti the envenom I hit it, if I hit the mut because Im spamming itwhatever

its not wortht he brain power to be concerned with

[golden loom]

u deffo dont wanna think about supercharger when doing the big badaboom dry shiv envenom

[spice spire]

Well yeah but that’s literally

[late ravine]

!plater

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[spice spire]

You just shiv before a dn

And chuckle

[faint vessel]

based on your logs its definitely not even remotely worth being concerned with

and the caveat is if you do go full CP + supercharger that giga envenom gets the benefit, which is why everyone says dont worry about it

theres no 'wasted' CPs

[shut aspen]

word, yea I think I just need to focus on darkest night... tighten up my opener and marks

thanks again

[golden loom]

no worries, not much else to do than yap while sitting in m+ groupfinder

[gray raven]

Is there a meld/vanish weak aura for S2 dungeons anyone can recommend?

[grave osprey]

Whens the next tuning pass?

[spice surge]

On reset, or maybe the reset after, who knows

[spice spire]

You do

I know you have insider knowledge since you’re literally John Icy Vein

[pine ore]

!whispyr

[slate crown]

!wa On the trigger for the aura, there's an "Own Only" checkbox, make sure that is checked.

All of the packs here have a version of mark/night, you can take a look for examples but the primary thing to look at is that checkbox if yours is showing up for other rogues in raid

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[slate crown]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1292477218462634115/vlc_2024-10-06_08-22-07.gif

[runic hinge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif

[slate crown]

I exercised restraint. You did not.

[runic hinge]

Can’t

[humble verge]

hmmm

do we think that maybe running house of cards + signet would be possible

probably would be better off with a passive equip trinket instead of signet but

[warm vortex]

Guys I tasted the forbidden fruit

A massive fat on use haste in a ranged

[spice spire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1255570724861771896/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_2.gif

[spice spire]

Damn I thought the forbidden fruit was ur pops

Delete this nephew

[warm vortex]

I apologise for my sins

[peak bobcat]

whats a dn?

[slate crown]

Damn wish I had a massive fat on use forbidden fruit

[peak bobcat]

[warm vortex]

Darkest night

The buff you get after consuming all stacks of mark

[spice spire]

It’s actually deez nuts

Bozo

[warm vortex]

Fuck you just ended me

[spice spire]

Just like I did with ur pops

[warm vortex]

:(

I miss him so much

[slate crown]

do bears still have MASSIVE ATTACK?

or did that change?

cause that shit went hard

[warm vortex]

What bear? Please don’t tell me this is another deez nuts joke

[opaque sigil]

!wa

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[cerulean walrus]

You can’t bear seeing deez nuts

[torpid sparrow]

hello guys i was wondering before crafting my heroic dagger , is the recrafting trick still working?

[wispy epoch]

I’m playing windwalker rn but I’m not seeing our raid’s rogue on my meters (it only shows the top 5), is assassination still good?

[cerulean walrus]

Sounds like your raid’s rogue

[warm vortex]

Holy shit is that literally hakari

[cerulean walrus]

Is bad

[warm vortex]

Been a bit dude!

Everything going swell?

[warm vortex]

Pog

[warm vortex]

I was topping each fight with Assa, but I think it’s just cause everyone else is casual
Plus our god tier ele sham had internet issurs

[dapper cradle]

They changed it to Ravage

Biggest L

[slate crown]

Significantly less massive

[dapper cradle]

You’re a top?

[slate crown]

damn

[warm vortex]

Mostly

[dapper cradle]

Uhhhhh based??

[spice surge]

Yep assa getting a 10% nerf (sudden demise now actually reduces bleed damage by 5% instead of increasing by 15%). While sub gets +50% secret technique damage

John "Icy" veins told me so

(his uncle works at blizzard)

[cerulean walrus]

Sudden Demise actually kills the player as per the name

Sudden Demise

[wispy epoch]

Whats +1 luck do

Wait

It doesn’t show

The +1 lucky

[dapper cradle]

Secret technique cannot be talented into because it’s a secret

[cerulean walrus]

Yeah it’s a flavor stat

Or is it

[wispy epoch]

wtf….

[cerulean walrus]

[spice surge]

Makes you luckier (it doesnt do anything)

[cerulean walrus]

Or does it?

[wispy epoch]

But Hakari is all about luck

[cerulean walrus]

Can’t play slots without a lever

[wispy epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/hakari-gambling-corvobis-gif-2582092119733052399

[slate crown]

It gives you a bit of luck

[astral plover]

No bias here pls. but im in a bit of a piggle. i cant decide if i should learn to play Sub as good as i play Sin. or just stick to sin for the raid

[jade abyss]

is bleed build > hybrid ?

[runic hinge]

No bias in the sin channel for sure

[runic hinge]

Bleed is more overall but worse on bosses

[severe meadow]

I was top 3 on normal and heroic last night

For just about every fight

Sin is fine

[warm vortex]

Spatter is still go to right

[severe meadow]

Just play what you enjoy

[warm vortex]

For M+

[spice spire]

Does it give you a higher chance to win in the gallagio busted tune thing?

[vapid terrace]

Spatter is life

[sterile ore]

You think we can be king dps of rogue spec this season too ?

[vapid terrace]

Are you in a Famed guild? If no, play what you want. Imo

[jade abyss]

thank you

[peak bobcat]

im in famed guild and i play what i want

[sterile ore]

ye kinda

[peak bobcat]

it doesnt matter

[sterile ore]

but @tyler your right tbh

[vapid terrace]

Famed I could see an argument, but I still wouldn't leave the sin life

[peak bobcat]

if you arent pushing WF you are perfectly fine to play what spec you want

just get good

[spice spire]

I’ve never sinned a day in my life

[warm vortex]

You literally said you killed my pops earlier

[peak bobcat]

people care what spec they play and then walk in the raid and green parse

congrats you are bottom of the dps meter on meta spec

[sterile ore]

haha

[jaunty kayak]

crafting dagger first week aint trolling amirite?

[warm vortex]

Green is good for the environment though

[warm vortex]

How would it be trolling

You can get it
Recraft it
Then bam crest discount

[jaunty kayak]

just wanted to make sure im not dumb

[peak bobcat]

dagger craft is BIS

every season

[runic hinge]

Especially with ascension being the ST embellish. You’re gonna offhand it at the least

[jaunty kayak]

ahh ye right.. i thought it works only for rings for some reason

[spice spire]

No I said I finished him (made him bust)

[warm vortex]

Isn’t ascension also a good choice if you wanna do both

[warm vortex]

That’s still sinning

[spice spire]

Nah

Proof?

[weak prism]

Does the recraft trick still work? Ive heard ppl saying its fixed

[runic hinge]

Embellishments are just worthless anyways so going from ascension to thread or whatever is like .5 maybe in aoe

[jaunty kayak]

thank you lads happy stabbing

[jade abyss]

what is the name of this weakaura or addon that shows the buttons i press in the last time?

[warm vortex]

Remember toxic thorn boots

Waiting for someone to finish a fucking BH

To craft it

[sterile ore]

what recraft trick buddy @weak prism

[iron carbon]

Truffi gcd I think

[weak prism]

You can get it in details

[jade abyss]

was a good memory 30k per craft was delicious

[runic hinge]

I made the LW camp his character and reminded him about his lockout every week

[spice spire]

Fixed

[peak bobcat]

so based

[iron carbon]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/trufigcd

[weak prism]

Craft dagger, put in both slots, relog, recraft and game considers you max ilvl on both slots

[jade abyss]

same here i was running the dungeon 1 week before s2 ans was always extending the id x)

[warm vortex]

I’m most likely just gonna make an ascend dagger then

[jaunty kayak]

trufiGCD addon or Action Tracker plugin in Details

[warm vortex]

And stick some stinky patch on my shoes or smth

[jade abyss]

thanks for your answers guys love ya

[warm vortex]

Love you more

Smh

[deep gyro]

Sub channel was just saying this was patched and not doable for weaps atm

[shut canopy]

i tried it and must have fucked it up then

unless it was working for people yesterday maybe then patched

[spice spire]

It was not working yesterday

[deep gyro]

Rip

[tame lake]

When playing the new bleed build in M+ at what points do I use my shiv?

[runic hinge]

During dm and then whenever you feel like it

Got bleeds on everything? shiv

Everything hits 35% and you get a fresh ct? Shiv

[golden loom]

shiv is a 30 sec cd u just rip that shit when shit is bleedin

[tame lake]

Thank you guys. Ill give it a shot

[runic hinge]

Also the bleed build isn’t new

Maybe no kb is

[tame lake]

Yeah i was referring to the no KB

[spice spire]

It’s not

[runic hinge]

Yeah I mean bleed is the exact build you run in PvP and have for a minute

But idk

I am a shadow priest main now

[peak bobcat]

[runic hinge]

Our melee ranged split is insane even with me swapping. Something like 11/5 not including two tanks and a MW and Hpal

Just aotc guild things

[dapper cradle]

first time I read that i understood it as

you guys are doing 11 splits

as an AOTC guild

[runic hinge]

Lmao

[dapper cradle]

[spice spire]

Normal splits

[runic hinge]

We raid 3 hours a week.

[spice spire]

Same

[runic hinge]

Well surely get that all in

[dapper cradle]

wtf dude

you have a house of cards????

[spice spire]

Normal

Because of collusion

[warm vortex]

Attendance isn’t mandatory

[dapper cradle]

still giga pog

[spice spire]

I went real dumb not thinking about caps

And now have a 658 HoC 🙂

[runic hinge]

Correct

Our gm is missing first raid cause he’s on vacation

[spice spire]

I’m missing our second raid because I’m dog sitting

Like

It happens

[warm vortex]

Our GM barely raided last season cause he is in a game dev studio

Also
Because I had 100% attendance RL made a joke I could get like 10,000 DKp (yes we still use that)

But I’m at like -9,450,000

So it doesn’t matter

XD

[static glacier]

bruh

dkp in 2025

[warm vortex]

Hush

Better than rolling for everything

[runic hinge]

I mean we’re aotc guild so we just need lmao

[static glacier]

so hows the price of items judged

or is it just a bidding contest

[spice spire]

Yep we roll

[warm vortex]

Bidding

[static glacier]

and the proceeds are divided among the raid?

[warm vortex]

We also have a joke VKP (ven kill points)

[warm vortex]

You earn DKP for like
Prog kills and attendance

[static glacier]

sounds like im saving 2 tiers of dkp to then instantly get all the very rare shit for one tier

then repeat

[warm vortex]

It’s reset every tier

[static glacier]

f

[warm vortex]

Otherwise that exact thing would happen

X)

[haughty flicker]

save up for 4 tiers then take every single piece of loot for the next tier

[finite cliff]

Hi! i have a question about simming in general as assa. Should I just sim in st patchwerk 1 target full raid buffs and in aoe dungeon slice no raid buffs (only potions flasks etc) or is it not a good idea at all?

[runic hinge]

That’s actually exactly what you should do

[spice spire]

What Tony said but louder

[finite cliff]

amazing that its that easy! thanks boys

[brave comet]

radiant power or depths for raids?

[spice spire]

Same answer as always

[vestal cliff]

does someone know how to trigger the pillars in the rik reverb intermission? do i have to click it?

[spice spire]

To drain them? Click

[jaunty kayak]

i love these envenoms

[worldly sail]

did anyone here craft & recraft a dagger and get it to work for free upgrades on another dagger

i cant get it to trigger

[runic hinge]

Hearing it’s patched

[worldly sail]

[runic hinge]

What about to drain me

[spice spire]

???

[marble hemlock]

was fixed it seems

[brave comet]

Cauldron, Rik reverb, and sprocket, Depths enchant, everything else is radiant power?

[spice spire]

Dog why are we swapping enchants based on boss.
No the answer is your sim can guide you

Depths got a decent buff

[cloud basin]

How we looking so far?

[fading wigeon]

no issues in raid

[grand minnow]

has anyone tested if crafting a dagger and recrafting lets you upgrade for free

[spice spire]

Looking kinda big today, but in a good way. Can’t wait to hit arms and back tonight wby you big dog how you looking today

[spice spire]

It’s fixed

[grand minnow]

what a scam

[cloud basin]

Also what's the command for the tea macro with shiv?

[spice spire]

!shiv

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[spice spire]

That one

[golden loom]

!meow

[spice spire]

You wish

[runic hinge]

[cloud basin]

Yeah that one lol. Figured i should just macro it now lol. One less button to hit unless I need to. I kinda wanna macro my potion with deathmark but I don't always wanna use a potion

[thorn fjord]

I like to move it

[dapper cradle]

Haha my buddy is asking for pics haha

[spice spire]

Absolutely not

[tawny geyser]

Do we have any fights on HC where CT is preferred?

[tall atlas]

is there a tech to cheese ilvl with the circlet?

ive heard whispers but unsure on the details

[cloud basin]

whats the easiest delve to farm? since i gotta get back up to tier 8 lol

[spice spire]

Dread pit seems like the one a lot are using

(Ringing deeps)

[golden loom]

Dread pit is the goat

[runic hinge]

The sluice one in undermine was super good

Tuesday

[spice spire]

That’s what I used to call her

Damn

[cloud basin]

hows tank brann?

[golden loom]

Probably something for healers

[frail acorn]

Hey what is the best poisons for single target and mm ?

[severe meadow]

Dies

Need healer

[radiant raven]

pop evasion. Revive.

Branntanking new brann ready to die again

[ripe umbra]

!wa

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[brave comet]

are you guys doing well in raids with assassination?

i literally cant compete with warriors enhancements and demonhunters

wtf

[severe meadow]

Yeah

[grave osprey]

Those 3 specs seem to be excelling in raid

[severe meadow]

I did better than all of those lol

[grave osprey]

But it all comes down to the people youre running with. Everyone’s experience is gonna be different

[severe meadow]

I mean, did you parse well or

[grave osprey]

If it boils down to parses then the original question doesnt need to be asked? Im assuming they’re asking in regards to dps placement relative to the people in your group

[severe meadow]

I just feel like it’s a question that can answer itself

With logs

[grave osprey]

Agreed

Also, Stix is fun 🥰 (normal clear)

[brave comet]

96%

and im 8th

[grave osprey]

You must be playing with some giga chads to be parsing that high and being bottom dps 🥲

[brave comet]

we're all in the same percentage range

[severe meadow]

Then that’s your answer

[grave osprey]

Which fight was it?

[brave comet]

second to last

also is gallywax single target or caustic?

[grave osprey]

Ah my guild gonna prog that one today

Heard its the first wall

[severe meadow]

Caustic

[brave comet]

is that true as well for normal cause second to last boss is caustic, but i ran pure single target

and it did quite well

[severe meadow]

Probably depends on how fast your group kills adds

If you can make caustic worth

[brave comet]

they dont survive the 4 warriors in this fight

alright pure st then

[cursive marsh]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[brave comet]

im getting beat by fucking shadowpriests now

[spice spire]

13% aura buff

[brave comet]

what happened to this spec man

[spice spire]

Nothing . We stayed still other things changed.
We got a few spot buffs but nothing happened

Things change with tier

[coral ibex]

better reroll so you don’t break down in tears from being under a spriest

do it asap

[spice spire]

Spriest got a 13% aura buff because their tier got nerfed a bit

[brave comet]

meanwhile warriors

[spice spire]

Like yeah they’re going to be good rn

[brave comet]

you have no idea, im definitely writing this with tears rolling down my face

[coral ibex]

many people are saying this!

[runic hinge]

Deserved because I’m beautiful and kind

[peak bobcat]

Are warriors good?

[spice spire]

Awful

[brave comet]

i hate warriors now

[peak bobcat]

I thought assassination was op

[brave comet]

theyre taking my number 1 spot

all 5 of them

[peak bobcat]

Don’t let the brown class distract you from the real enemy

The blue class

Fuck enhance

[coral ibex]

assa is pretty solid

comfy spec

[wind totem]

What are the 4 prefered tier piece slots?

[runic hinge]

Fuck mages too

[balmy condor]

No stop, it’s unplayable remember

Assa is dead and awful and terrible now

And we should never play it again

[runic hinge]

Real and true

Fact checked by a true American patriot

[balmy condor]

Doomers would never over exaggerate

[humble verge]

its actually

impossible to do 2nd boss on tyra in prio

atleast at 640 ome

[coral ibex]

i give assa five (5) big BOOMs

💥 💥 💥 💥 💥

[balmy condor]

Second? With the hammers?

You’re in for a treat when you get to the last boss then if you think second is hard

[brave comet]

i just killed him on lfr, i think he's easy

[spice spire]

Yeah dog I did a prio for the first time last night

Incredible work

Last boss can eat my ass

LFR Priory

[brave comet]

i'm playing with donaldpump and he's parsing blues

[balmy condor]

That’s above average

Good for him

[spice spire]

Can’t relate

[prime isle]

guys, is assassin still the best spec for m+?

[brave comet]

hahahaha

it is the best in everything!

[rotund marsh]

are we pressing tea by itself in the rotation?

[runic hinge]

No. Macro to shiv

[rotund marsh]

ok cool

yeah just added that macro a sec ago

qol is so nice for assa rn

single target tuning is the only thing i can think of

[brave comet]

how is this possible?

gray parsing but 100% per his ilvl?

oh thats why

he's literally the first 648 player amongst his spec

thats craaazy

[tranquil cobalt]

is 2k rating in mythic plus still awarding the token for tier?

[runic hinge]

It’s a cata charge

[rotund marsh]

tested out a bleed build that took kingsbane, wasnt worth it imo.. what do i drop to take SBS back

[tranquil cobalt]

thats such a cringe change why lol

[rotund marsh]

i want iron wire

[runic hinge]

Ma

[rotund marsh]

damn, thats basically the only option 😦

is MA not as insane as it sounds?

[runic hinge]

What is the difference between getting a cata charge and using it on the hero chest you already got and getting a token to buy a hero chest from a vendor

[tranquil cobalt]

because i need to get a hero pc to drop first that i can cata charge. instead of just choosing the pc i want?

[runic hinge]

If you’re doing enough m+ to get 2k rating I’m sure you can get a piece to drop that you can cata

[spice spire]

What matters that you crit if not kb

The answer is envenom

[tranquil cobalt]

im at 1920 just needing to upgrade my 2 floodgate and got nothing lol

[spice spire]

But a large chunk of them already crit

[runic hinge]

Get better rng

[tranquil cobalt]

thats the point tho. like the change is just bad lol

whatever i guess

[runic hinge]

It isn’t. You’re just unlucky lol

[tranquil cobalt]

how is it better?

i just dont see the point lol

[rotund marsh]

sorry i dont understand what youre saying

what is envenom doing for crit?

i know it crits with DS

[runic hinge]

Crit doesn’t matter that much with MA if you’re not taking kb

[rotund marsh]

ahh i see

[brave comet]

so Rik actually has ads, should i remain on single target anyway just like recommended by wowhead?

[rotund marsh]

just need that KB to crit

big loss if it doesnt for sure

[spice spire]

Not really

[runic hinge]

They nerfed kb to hell anyways

[honest hound]

yes

[spice spire]

But also like what is crit doing outside of that

[rotund marsh]

stat prio is still crit mast for the bleed build right?

[runic hinge]

Sure

[rotund marsh]

i mean the way you guys are talking about crit, you would think it wasnt the most important stat

lol

[magic thorn]

Hey guys does someone know why my poisons suddenly expand into the wrong direction ? Normally they extend to the top now they do this

[spice spire]

Why is crit important.
Outside of raw damage what do we possibly have that fuels our gameplay that uses crit

[runic hinge]

The change isn’t bad. It’s just different. Just cause it’s worse for you doesn’t mean it’s not better than someone who dropped a hero helm with a socket a tertiary they can now cata instead of losing that.

[rotund marsh]

uhhh i mean idk

a lot of classes dont have an additional incentive either

[spice spire]

Look at your talents and type seal fate

[runic hinge]

The most important stat is agility btw

[spice spire]

In the search

[rotund marsh]

[spice spire]

It’s the PI argument though

[rotund marsh]

yeah that do be kinda important lol

[spice spire]

When haste was our best stat in like sod

Why wasn’t PI good for us

Or as good

[rotund marsh]

i mean yeah, not like you can really prio it over other stats

its just ilvl

[runic hinge]

You should be prio ilvl

[rotund marsh]

ofc

[runic hinge]

Until you have every slot myth

[rotund marsh]

was kinda just saying it isnt fighting for a slot like the 4 secondary stats are

btw why is slice and dice a button still

[runic hinge]

It’s not

Envenom auto applies

[lethal arrow]

wow this is garbage!

[rotund marsh]

i know, im just wondering why they havent removed the spell at this point lol

[rotund marsh]

i hate these trinkets

[runic hinge]

It gives @gilded oasis Something to press when she has combo points left over after a pack

[rotund marsh]

theres an even worse one thats like a goblin bomb

takes 10 seconds to land 💀

[spice spire]

@gilded oasis Explain

[royal lantern]

@spice spire send george pics

(please)

[late ravine]

!sheet

[spice spire]

I am working king I cannot 😦

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[balmy condor]

Send pics of your dogs at work then

[spice spire]

Dog no

[balmy condor]

Worth a shot

[balmy condor]

That’s what I’m talking about

[velvet ridge]

dam, im gapping ppl in ilvl, but getting stomped on dmg still

[gilded oasis]

What did I do

[mental wing]

He is a good boy 😎

[spice spire]

Pressing snd

[gilded oasis]

Oh I see. Idk! It's been my keybind since day 1. I'm not hurting for keybinds and when I'm running around I can push it before my cp all disappear

I don't push it often lol but it's therre

Like an old blanket

Old blanket of slicing and dicing

[spice spire]

I removed snd from my binds

And placed a better button there

(Sprint)

[gilded oasis]

What else am I supposed to use f3 for

Sprint has a bind already

[spice spire]

I had it on 3

So like better bind, it got a promotion!

[gilded oasis]

3 is reserved for gouge.. you know when I used it 3 expacs ago

[spice spire]

Zar

Homie

What

The

Fuck

[gilded oasis]

Brother my keybinds are the best

Sprint is num pad 3, that's the go fast button

[spice spire]

Idk homie

Are you a natty P user

For lust/drums?

[gilded oasis]

I click lust I can't be trusted to have that bound

I'd be fat fingering that left and right

The minute I think not to hit a button I accidentally slam it

If you'd like some advice on your key binds some day I'd be happy to help

[spice spire]

That’s why I have it on P

I’ll never fat finger that shit

[gilded oasis]

I can't even reach p

It's so far away

[royal lantern]

kill rik->double dagger drop

ofc

what else

[gilded oasis]

I can barely hit F ok

Oh gotta go show is starting

[spice spire]

Have fun

[runic hinge]

You’re rich!

[brave comet]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/91253474?boss=3011
why does my damage suck here

[tall saffron]

if i replace my old 4 set with new 2, will my old 4 work? or its gonna be old 2 + new 2?

[balmy condor]

Well if you don’t have 4 items equipped of a set, you don’t get the 4 set bonus

If you have 2 pieces, you get the 2 set

I don’t really understand the question, but I’m gonna say 2+2 probably

[tall saffron]

ye ye u answered, ty

[fleet copper]

Not sure if this has been answer, but what is the meaning of the Two + Four set in the sims?

[polar sleet]

No caustic spatter

[brave comet]

this is the build on wowhead, so i guess this is incorrect then

[polar sleet]

My caustic did like 190k dps on that boss

[late ravine]

Y only internal on Chromie and sprocket as far as I know

[balmy condor]

You can spatter on chrome

But yeh dunno spatter is strange on rik cause the adds are random all over the place

Sometimes you can spatter sometimes you can’t

[brave comet]

that's super weirdd

top assassination player vs rik

they must be really coordinated

[subtle tundra]

?

pad build gonna pad

[tall saffron]

btw guys

today i used shadowstep on lastboss and insta died, fell out from platform

wtf is this

[haughty flicker]

ive seen a couple people post about that lmao

[tight sparrow]

I used shadowstep at the second boss , when the Dinasour was casting his frontal, insta died

[distant plinth]

Shadowstep on last boss ports me to the other side of the room lol

[tall saffron]

ye

[distant plinth]

Undertuned and now this…

[tall saffron]

fix ya game blizzard

[distant plinth]

Whatta time to be alive

[balmy condor]

Gallywix shadowsteps are flipped

P1 puts you behind when you should put you center of the room, P2 puts you center of the room when it should be behind

[distant plinth]

You playing assa or sub in raid now whisp?

[balmy condor]

Good one

Why would I play sub

[distant plinth]

True assa gamer

[tall saffron]

assa is vibe on styx

[balmy condor]

Does sub do this execute dam

[royal lantern]

tier list puts it a tier above assa bozo

[balmy condor]

True my bad

[midnight mist]

no but outlaw does that damage always

[balmy condor]

Real

[midnight mist]

no cap

[earnest flume]

someone wanna gift me the luck of a trinket to replace transmitter. not getting the jump option on pull is pissing me off. cant find the damn thing till half way through the CD window. skill issue i know

[balmy condor]

Outlaw and assa are dead Zac didn’t you hear it’s sub season

[tall saffron]

got this today but sim puts it lower than 636 crafted crit/mastery 💀

[balmy condor]

Guess haste isn’t good for you then

[nova kelp]

To be fair I do get a little sad being mr. envenom but like w/e really

[tall saffron]

i got 12 % with this ring

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3fPfsoppJ9PFYfrc7LQSQo

[nova kelp]

spatter and execute damage go brrr

[ivory latch]

is there an amount of haste we want to avoid going under?

[nova kelp]

however much your sims like

[tall saffron]

i think you wanted like 15-16% in s1

[hardy rapids]

Tier list follower. Make fun of this man

[balmy condor]

I think you wanted whatever the sim said you wanted

and there wasn't a special number

because that's not a thing

[royal lantern]

no you didnt

[brave comet]

do i use cds on the first boss on pull?

[balmy condor]

no

[brave comet]

so probably kingsbane only?

[lethal arrow]

[balmy condor]

gratz

big dagger

[lethal arrow]

im corked

[azure owl]

675 dagger with ascendance is a good choice if I'm planning to play assa/sub ??

[spice surge]

Nah bro havent you seen the sims

Warrior and monk way better

[balmy condor]

turns out doomers are dumbfucks?

surely rogue is just that high because of blahbleabelableahblaehablaeblahehalbahl right

[spiral pasture]

Wait till range have tier

Its over for us

[balmy condor]

yeah yeah

that's the doom I was looking for

[tall saffron]

next week assa buffs

[spiral pasture]

They really did drop the ball on tier drops tho

Full normal almost full hc 30 man only one boss dropped 2 tokens

[nova kelp]

I'm feeling doomer, but it has nothing to do with throughput, I'm just upset with the current lack of well anything. Our throughput feels fine

[ornate dawn]

we've had billions of tokens drops

[spiral pasture]

Lucky, with this pace im not getting 4p till week 3

[balmy condor]

your 4p is an upgrade before week 3?

that's crazy

[lethal arrow]

but but but the last week wowhead reports

wahhhhhhhhh

our spec is at the BOTTOM

WAHHH

[ornate dawn]

im sat on 2+2 could go 4set but aint worth sending yet

[balmy condor]

LOOK AT SIM

WAAAAAAAAA

THE EVIL SPREADSHEET MAN SAID ASSA WAS BAD!

[indigo mulch]

Lmao

Its the same every patch.

[spiral pasture]

Once we get to that 5 min full uptime patchwerk its over tho

[balmy condor]

on god, assa is dead if it's full uptime and no execute value and no caustic value and also there's no reason to burst so outlaw is dead and it's also dead if it was more difficult to play than now and if the cooldowns didn't line up and

[indigo mulch]

I still think sin should get some buffs to ST. 😄

[balmy condor]

that's a winners mentality

https://tenor.com/view/ricky-bobby-will-ferell-if-youre-not-first-you-are-last-gif-3983540

[indigo mulch]

I might be a traitor and give sub a try this season, but i really don't feel like not playing assassination.

[fallen orbit]

hi guys do you think its worth loosing old set bonus for better gear ? like hero tier ?

[balmy condor]

sim it

[nova kelp]

hot take, all 3 specs are fun

[royal lantern]

nah

outlaw exists

[earnest remnant]

wrong

outlaw sucks

[royal lantern]

[nova kelp]

OH FUCK OH NO HE SAID THE THING

[brave comet]

no, no fun allowed!

[nova kelp]

Look I'm ngl, I've been playing OL less and less lately, but I tell you what I enjoy outlaw more than deathstalkers mark...

[earnest remnant]

buff sub

i can only reach 5mil burst on pull

it should be higher

[brave comet]

lmao, no kidding deja voodoo

deathstalker's mark is a massive pain in the ass

[gilded oasis]

Wish you'd execute me

[balmy condor]

same

[nova kelp]

MORE SHIV ON SHIV ACTION

[indigo mulch]

[nova kelp]

this is what I'm here for

[indigo mulch]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[brave comet]

question, on stix. do i wanna decouple using shivs from deathmark and kingsbane?

[balmy condor]

if you took arterial and crimson tempest and there's enough aoe that'll last long enough, sure

@severe meadow gear check king

[severe meadow]

Give me that trinket NOW

[balmy condor]

but then I won't have it

:(

you'd take my trinket away from me?

this is literally me

[severe meadow]

I’m swapping to sub, I hate it here

[balmy condor]

you want my other trinket too then?

it's got speed

[gilded oasis]

🤮

[severe meadow]

Speed

[balmy condor]

[nova kelp]

wish my transmitter had speed on it...

[indigo mulch]

What delv level do i acutally have to do to get the hero track trinket? D:

[amber isle]

which add on is showing the extended character stats?

[balmy condor]

but I don't use it for any of that nonsense on the right I just use it to see the durability/ilvl on the gear

[amber isle]

yeah thats what im after mostly too. thank you!

[nova kelp]

this made me instantly react like "wtf he trying to find out about me?!"

[balmy condor]

your character stats obviously

[nova kelp]

lol

[balmy condor]

@nova kelp bust/waist/hip?

[spice spire]

Dog

[balmy condor]

whats up

[nova kelp]

not big enough, too big for my taste, and idk really maybe not big enough
glutes for the sloots

[balmy condor]

unfortunate

[nova kelp]

I don't have enough speed on my IRL gear either

[jade abyss]

I wish i had a transmitter xD

[main blaze]

No you dont

I hate this thing

[sullen mural]

Any knowers if the recraft for free upgrade works still or

[balmy condor]

does not

[dense anvil]

did they fix the recraft trick crest save?

[sullen mural]

Sadge bliizard fixing my abuses

[balmy condor]

double kill

[main blaze]

cast Transmitter little orb somehow misses me and rolls into some shit and I have to go pick its ass up.

[harsh anchor]

Does anyone play this spec still

[balmy condor]

no, everyone said it was dead and left

[harsh anchor]

smh my head

[balmy condor]

don't come back the spec 100% definitely sucks and isn't actually good

[nova kelp]

yezzir

[severe meadow]

We’re going combat, surely

[spice spire]

Only thing I combat is the voices

[severe meadow]

Combat these lips king

[spice spire]

Only if I can do it with mine

[harsh harbor]

should a 626 Skardyn outsim a 645 priory?

or am i fucking something up

[balmy condor]

link it

[harsh harbor]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gvRw1Wjr4LgxgJk8HwAFGP

[balmy condor]

yeh dungeonslice that's reasonable

[harsh harbor]

dungeon slice still works correct?

[subtle karma]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1346745738532491296/New_Project.jpg

[balmy condor]

yes ofc

[kind heron]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[flat rampart]

The priory trinket is your highest stat, and you really want mastery for your CDs. If you have more crit than mastery, it will give you crit.
I've been unequipping gear (including ring from siren isles) until I have more mastery than crit. Then I equip it back, so windsinger gives me mastery and crit comes out on top. Hope it makes sense.

[flat rampart]

hover over to see the specific rating, not percentage

[hexed canopy]

anyone in ToP also killing your mate during pvp-boss? because of sudden demise

[harsh harbor]

thats why i was like ???

[flat rampart]

ignore sim and play with signet. It's easy math right there

[harsh harbor]

that was my move

must be borkin up in the sim some where

[lavish moth]

is 2p worth?

[nova kelp]

Slight downgrade for me atm, mileage may vary

[past birch]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[severe meadow]

Yeah, just let them beat you up

[azure owl]

And take the dps loss? aint no way :trollface:

[haughty flicker]

i think cinderbrew might be the most dangerous dungeon to pug

based on extensive testing

[balmy condor]

cinderbrew is overtuned to shit

[haughty flicker]

tanks immediately lose their minds and pull way more than they can handle

[balmy condor]

7 cinderbrew is like

equal to a 10

[haughty flicker]

yeah

it did not go well lmao

[storm forum]

o7

[cedar salmon]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[haughty flicker]

tooltip not updated since 10.2.7 smh wowhead

[royal lantern]

priory?

did it 3x in a pug and it fails at the first Boss cus the tank dies, or because the tank insists on going left side and then everyone dies on the Boss

[haughty flicker]

i havent done priory much yet

so no opinion other than ground effects are annoying

[pseudo lichen]

Anyone free to look over a quick log of one of the rogues in my guide so i can give him feedback (assassination).

[restive falcon]

Radiant Power gamers

[tight sparrow]

We need killvideos with commentary to learn 😄

[severe meadow]

Had a warlock do 900k overall in Priory just now

(He got loot)

It was the slowest and most miserable +3 ever

[balmy condor]

I stream the whole thing on 2 platforms what more do you want from me

[cyan trellis]

that happened to me i got flamed

[tight sparrow]

Fair enough, gonna look through the vods tomorow

[brazen sluice]

i hate the bleed build so much i wanna throw up

[abstract cargo]

!bug

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Bug tracker: https://github.com/SimCMinMax/WoW-BugTracker/labels/Rogue

[meager prism]

Why? I kinda like it

[lethal arrow]

will do disgusting things for the signet

[quaint spindle]

Ok when gallywix is about to get into his robot body, do not shadow step to him after the aoe circle goes away; you will fly off the platform

[elfin valley]

anyone seen the issue in ToP where sudden demise kills the duel partner and doesnt end the duel

[fallow canopy]

ye

happened to me today

[elfin valley]

ye i killed my friend and got stuck afking below

[lethal arrow]

im bricked up

ofc no dagger dropped

[balmy condor]

damn

giga pad

[jovial adder]

Should we use weekly or nightly for sims?

[balmy condor]

latest

[tall jay]

Happened three times today…the sudden demise thing

[lethal arrow]

the pad in question

[fallow canopy]

[balmy condor]

same tbh

[fallow canopy]

1-2 ilvl more and this 2headed snake gets smoked

[dreamy gale]

is there a point to craft a 658 weapon?

[keen spruce]

how's everyone likin the new stuff

[balmy condor]

not if you're just going to craft a 675 instead

[keen spruce]

Whispyr how is your mental? stable and fourishing yes?

[dreamy gale]

i guess id rather just grind the gilded and get a 675

[balmy condor]

yeah I'm vibing but if one more person is astounded that a bleed build exists I will shoot myself in fortnite

[keen spruce]

I played 6 rounds of golf in the last 7 days

[soft surge]

replace skardyns with this ?

[balmy condor]

should've been more than that

[keen spruce]

I'm RPing as a retired person

[ionic fox]

@balmy condor I imagine you probably haven't updated your WA pack for sub. But I like yours. Any chance to add the supercharged combopoints?

[balmy condor]

is there a reason to do that?

is there an optimization for sub around supercharged cp

[ionic fox]

Symbols grants 2 supercharge finishers. Would be nice-ish to track the 2 in a chaotic pack. maybe its just me being dumb xD

[lethal arrow]

gushing wound is coming back

[slate crown]

When you rez you want to cast symbols pre-pull so you have 2 at the start of the pull

Minor thing but it's something you can do

[balmy condor]

💀

yeah nah

if that's the only optimization for supercharged cp I'm not tracking that

just makes the cp harder to read for no benefit

[slate crown]

Like, you want your sectec to always be supercharged, but you don't really need to track it for that to happen

it just sort of happens naturally

[balmy condor]

yeah

I mean that's what I assumed

[slate crown]

yeh

[rotund marsh]

has there ever been a talent for aoe deathmark?

sounds so sick as an idea

[severe meadow]

@balmy condor Im coming

dont be higher ilvl already ill cry

[severe meadow]

https://media.tenor.com/_pz48ESVe4cAAAAi/glorp-glorpnotl.gif

[balmy condor]

no, that would be insane

like you cannot have caustic and also that

@fallow canopy dead?

[fallow canopy]

nop

0.7% tiwce

[balmy condor]

pausechamp

maybe joining you

nvm

5% enrage

[oak eagle]

!shiv

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[fallow canopy]

4.2%

[severe meadow]

Stix kinda fun

[rotund marsh]

yeah it would definetly not be a thing while caustic is here lol

[fallow canopy]

deadge

the only 100 i'll ever see

[young knot]

Do we use crimson tempest in st after getting our 2p?

[balmy condor]

no

[balmy condor]

I'm boutta send you to 0 bucko

(probably not, the last 30 seconds are so fucking brutal)

[young knot]

So the set does not affect rotation . Noice

[fallow canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/playing-dead-pew-dramatic-finger-gun-cat-gif-13568033

[balmy condor]

if only someone wrote a guide with info

[fallow canopy]

they fucking are, not sure if your group is doing it but you can hold dps for a bit on the last phase before 40% if the boss gets to cast the frontal the beam thingy and if you time it right it doesnt go into the last phase until it finishes instead of canceling and doing the charge and shit and you can gain a little bit of damage there

[balmy condor]

damage ain't the issue it's the healing

[fallow canopy]

oh

[balmy condor]

we're actually just falling over

[severe meadow]

Sent to a different expansion

[ebon temple]

sent to the shadowlands

[void pecan]

Super bleed build BiS coming to 11.5? Gushing wounds enchant. 😐

[balmy condor]

why would that matter

[void pecan]

It doesn't, I guess. Yet.

[balmy condor]

but why bleed build better

am I missing something

[dapper cradle]

holy

he hit you with that cold blood sec tech

(he cb'ed the send sectech in blades ofc)

[frozen glacier]

i hate stix

https://tenor.com/view/angry-angry-cat-mad-cat-mad-death-stare-gif-2007099240114134459

[neat flame]

sin is pretty fun this patch

[haughty flicker]

i got 2p

what a time to be alive

[fathom flax]

what gem makes sense for gear shared between ass/sub

big mast lil crit?

[golden loom]

probably yeah

[onyx lagoon]

anyone know if there's any safe time to shadow step in p3 gally, its completely bugged and just tossing me off the platform

[severe meadow]

I have 4pc but it's a dps loss

https://tenor.com/view/glerm-glorp-cat-erm-gif-116397764024710755

[balmy condor]

yes

that will happen

[subtle tundra]

bruh i was complaining about assa tier set

ww s1 tier set is so dogshit it asks to break it with any higher ilvl 1 slot upgrade

4p

[haughty flicker]

lmao

[subtle tundra]

🤨

[balmy condor]

average winning streak bonus

if you're not a dk

[subtle tundra]

its not winnin streak

s1 tier

[haughty flicker]

a mage in my guild was saying it was worth breaking tier for gloves

[balmy condor]

oh

[subtle tundra]

i just want to not have to play transmitter anymore

aaaaa

[earnest remnant]

why caustic no worky on gally -.-, ggs sub tier

[balmy condor]

it does work

[neat flame]

@balmy condor I know its hard to identify a breakpoint cause things are so dynamic, but is there a general key level where the main M+ build out -performs the bleed build?

[balmy condor]

it doesn't

[neat flame]

😲

[earnest remnant]

the shit ive been seeing caustic does not reach the adds at start of p2, unless they are all the way on the edge

[balmy condor]

yah

12 yards

[earnest remnant]

rashanan all over again, just this time the adds actually matter

[lethal arrow]

any juicers

(im wearing a dogshit trinket to pad ilvl)

[soft surge]

diffing mages, dh, sub rogues

[earnest remnant]

same ilvl as me, yet to send crests into gear

[lethal arrow]

bros got bis trinkets

its been 2 days

[earnest remnant]

gotta farm my last 2-3 dungeon pieces

[soft surge]

got lucky tbh

did two priorys in total i think

[lethal arrow]

meanwhile our heroic bandit kill dropped straight ass

[subtle tundra]

🌬️ 🚶‍♂️‍➡️

[lethal arrow]

0 dagger

[subtle tundra]

ww tier

imagine not having a dagger drop

[earnest remnant]

sub tier

[lethal arrow]

praying i get one from m+ at this point

im sure mechagon will drop one

[earnest remnant]

dunno if its ethical that sub can blow stuff up like this

[soft surge]

sub may have been a psyop

[lethal arrow]

[subtle tundra]

dang

[drifting cloud]

motorcycle expert

[subtle tundra]

but ww is 2nd

so......

who is winning?

[earnest remnant]

me

[lethal arrow]

who else is doing this

[subtle tundra]

lets agree to disagree

[earnest remnant]

that aint first boss its gallywix

[subtle tundra]

not done gally yet so idk

im like 644 ilvl unfortunately

[drifting cloud]

jundies not having fun on rik as sub

[earnest remnant]

fight looks pretty good for sub timings

[drifting cloud]

hes turbo holding for adds

[earnest remnant]

yeh, i mean thats sub's job this tier i feel

[subtle tundra]

maybe early bosse

but i suspect dps gonna be tight

[drifting cloud]

this boss looking slightly real

I think even liquid doesnt 1 tap it