#assassination

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deep haven
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Surely

humble verge
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were on 2nd boss ome

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in hc

waxen oyster
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The raid feels decent for sin

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besides vexie's burn seems to favor sub?

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on heroic

humble verge
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nah

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i was like

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#2

deep haven
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Which delve would be fastest to ramp to +8 for loot?

waxen oyster
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Well for some reason

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my raid decided to actually aoe

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on heroic vexie

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compared to norm

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Stix feels kind of nice.

royal lantern
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jfc is going on with the boss hp pools

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priory first boss having over 1B on +8 lol

balmy condor
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well that's not the boss you kill

subtle tundra
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lol

balmy condor
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1B on the mini boss that doesn't end the fight

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big big big

hollow talon
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if im doing the bleed double shiv m+ build, do i just shiv after all my posions are up

waxen oyster
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Rik is a bit awkward since you cant phase to intermission with a DN proc

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else you'll lose it in the afk time

waxen oyster
hollow talon
balmy condor
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yeah

severe meadow
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thanks delve

balmy condor
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you just want your big damage out

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and then shiv

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so bleeds -> ct/cds -> shiv

hollow talon
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cool

agile geode
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
severe meadow
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now I can go see the Priory trinket drop for the 6th time

royal lantern
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when do you do that?

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just keep the dot up always?

balmy condor
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yeah

spice spire
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If no amplifying

royal lantern
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so like, rupture->CT->envenom only when CT is up

spice spire
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So for bleed build

balmy condor
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correct

royal lantern
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i hate it

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🙂

warm vortex
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Add fight lmao

deep haven
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I thought I was learning somewhat, then this dropped in chat. Now I'm feeling more clueless xd wait for me I have smooth brain

spice spire
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I genuinely think as we get gear bleed build will slip as it did last tier until the end when people started memeing. But whatever maintaining a dot is fine garf

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Also more demand for st (lmao) etc etc

warm vortex
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Is one armed not a CT fight

balmy condor
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no

warm vortex
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Ah ok, do ads die too fast

balmy condor
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might not even be a caustic fight

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probably is a caustic fight

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but CT seems really cursed

warm vortex
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Ah kk

balmy condor
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depends on how often you have adds up I guess

warm vortex
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ill just spatter

balmy condor
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but there's coin rotations where you don't see aoe for like a minute and a half lmao

covert jewel
humble verge
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giga normal logs

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i wonder why i died on 3rd boss

static glacier
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no pinks but no bad logs either

royal lantern
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dont wanna sound mean but

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most EU people didnt even touch the raid yet

humble verge
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i am eu

royal lantern
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holy shit

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its John EU

spice spire
static glacier
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im eu

balmy condor
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yeah that's crazy

static glacier
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don't accuse me of being NA

balmy condor
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what's coup de grace

royal lantern
spice spire
humble verge
dapper halo
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kevin spacey trinket

spice spire
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True

humble verge
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hoooly

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real

dapper halo
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now i feel like watching house of cards

granite sentinel
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!tea

prisma monolithBOT
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
golden loom
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I was so lost on mugzee, think I pressed like 1 button during one cd window kekdog

runic hinge
balmy condor
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coupe da grass brother

dapper halo
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whispy is still alive

spice spire
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Mans been trying to run keys

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(He hates them tho so this is propaganda)

cerulean walrus
spice spire
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How about you take a propaganda at my balls

cerulean walrus
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Wendy’s dumpsters

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?

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10p sharp?

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The usual?

humble verge
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like 3 times

spice spire
cerulean walrus
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To the dumpster

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There’s an outlet

waxen oyster
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Me when I go do soak on gallywix

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and no one else jumps in

haughty flicker
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thats why you never do mechanics

waxen oyster
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Honestly real

dreamy gale
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is it me or is caustic spatter not that strong without tier set (not got season 1 tier set)

runic hinge
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Caustic spatter is not reliant on tier. No

dreamy gale
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hmm crimson tempest is usualy my highest damaging abilitiy so makes me feel i do something wrong maybe in m+ aoe

golden loom
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I shadowstepped the boss like 4 times getting surprised I ended up in the middle every time kekdog

balmy condor
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that's pretty normal

golden loom
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thats so fkin troll

astral plover
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Whisp

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help me

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do i craft a 658 Dagger or do i wait for gilded?

balmy condor
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658 sounds bad

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idk why you would do that

flint tusk
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I literally just did that also shadowstepped gallywix and i got randomly ported over the lava xD

digital venture
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
dusky vault
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For short lived raid adds that need to die do we ever cast bleeds on them or just send envenoms?

tight sparrow
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anyone know how to turn on amplifer health bar at rik reverb with Whips plater profile?

golden loom
static glacier
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super short lived adds die to spatter or an env tbh

dusky vault
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Thank you, yeah splatter usually does a lot but sometimes they are split off. 9s is good to know

hexed canopy
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we break 4p S1 for 2p2p right?

static glacier
tight sparrow
urban pasture
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btw is there a prefered delve to run to start getting to +7s?

golden loom
urban pasture
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anything good?

golden loom
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nah

urban pasture
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i assume all delve loot is the same in each place right?

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also 7+ is mythic track?

golden loom
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nah cant get myth track from delves

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only heroic track from vault/ the map thingy you can get once per week

placid wave
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I just searched this channel to see if ppl had posted about this bug yet

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if you're sin you must lose the duel 😄

urban pasture
balmy condor
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listed in guides

velvet ridge
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yo does bleed build really drop iron wire for shiv 2

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i feel naked

balmy condor
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then take iron wire

spice spire
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Iron wire goodge

tawny geyser
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Rik Reverb Caustic on HC?

velvet ridge
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yes sir right away

balmy condor
limber lion
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Gallywix is the final boss of the new tier?

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Sick

runic hinge
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Yeah

limber lion
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Haven't seen literally any teaser or patch note in many months

timid bramble
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so we just stay in combat at the end of motherlode

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like cant even stealth before boss

warm vortex
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CT on gallywix or nah

balmy condor
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why are you so hell bent on playing CT on everything

warm vortex
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I'm just curious whispy

haughty flicker
warm vortex
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:(

haughty flicker
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ct enjoyer

warm vortex
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I'm using your raid builds, and just seeing there are a lotta ads

dapper cradle
haughty flicker
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possibly

warm vortex
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No cock n balls

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Just cock

dapper cradle
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nah stay away from my balls

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but feel free to breakdance all over my cock

elder torrent
balmy condor
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wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwhead

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guiiiiiiiiiiiiide

dapper cradle
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i know you'd appreciate it

runic hinge
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it’s a real freak off in here today

elder torrent
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I was already reading the wowhead before I came in here

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I'm just blind

dapper cradle
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i wonder when whispyr will release the sub guide

haughty flicker
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sometimes it be like that

elder torrent
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i always check the Resources before I come in here to ask a question

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I'm just blind asf lol

runic hinge
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Its towards the bottom of the talent page

haughty flicker
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welp i made this mistake of trying to swap characters while the servers are dying

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so i guess now instead of playing the game i watch race to world second

elder torrent
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kinda forgot it exists

royal lantern
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MFs asking for a summon into rookery while stading afk in town

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i legit cant

haughty flicker
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lmfao

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i swear im immediately kicking anyone who asks for a summon to rookery

golden loom
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had the same when I did normal raid on my warrior

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someone asked for summon to first boss

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they were in the hotel

dapper cradle
warm vortex
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Tried to shadowstep gallywix

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Took me to the shadow realm

golden loom
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took you to the bleed realm

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sudden demise wins again

storm forum
spice spire
real pike
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I got a hero dagger from a key, thoughts on crafting a 675 still? or should I do another slot

balmy condor
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don't see why you would craft another slot

waxen oyster
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ima be real

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if theres adds

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i swap to caustic

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and call it a day

real pike
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it just feelsbadman crafting when I got a hero drop ahah

severe meadow
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2pc and 2 658 daggers before raid, feels good

sharp atlas
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Is there a reason to run delves if its not bountiful/dont have a key? Im trying to catch up in ilvl to start on m+ but ive run 4x tier 8s with no drops

wise pike
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yo we cant shadowstep on gally lol

haughty flicker
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delves are pointless unless bountiful yes

waxen oyster
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You can shadowstep a friendly

haughty flicker
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maybe a chance at the delvers bounty map

golden loom
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u can guarantee the map anyways and u can only get 1 per week

sharp atlas
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I got a map on my first run but havnt used it, im assuming i just run a +8 and pop it?

haughty flicker
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2k undercoins isnt as easy to get as the wowhead post wouldve led you to believe

golden loom
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did 4 bountifuls today got 1670 undercoin, and theres an item for 2000 undercoin that spawns the fella that gives u a map when you kill him

waxen oyster
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i got the cipher key quest item my first delve

golden loom
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so just need to do 1-2 bountiful delves tomorrow and I can afford it

sharp atlas
balmy condor
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a non embellishment that you're gonna replace?

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you have to craft the dagger for BiS anyway

real pike
balmy condor
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ye

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it's bis offhand

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but why not just take it for mainhand

real pike
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ok you've convinced me

real pike
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but yeah the dagger is the way

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tyty

balmy condor
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yeah so just crafting a worse piece then

real pike
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yeah I'm a dumb dumb

dapper cradle
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don't even need the undercoins

haughty flicker
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lmao really

dapper cradle
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they're like 12k

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yeah

haughty flicker
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thats funny

dapper cradle
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just gotta level up my delves on my alt first

gray raven
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what'a ya'lls opinion about what key level where the bleed build falls off?

pliant remnant
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like +2

golden loom
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As long as mobs can bleed, make them

kind heron
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!FUU

prisma monolithBOT
late ravine
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!tea

prisma monolithBOT
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
severe meadow
brave comet
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do you guys prefer the bleed build or the regular build for M+

severe meadow
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Bleed

balmy condor
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bleed fun

severe meadow
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Big demise is satisfying

brave comet
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rotationally its the same? just without DM

grave osprey
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!guide

brave comet
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where in the wowhead page does it explain the rotation of the bleed build?

haughty flicker
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if bleed not on target apply bleed to target

restive falcon
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whats the meta for delve farming

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do 3 t11 then 1 t8 with your map?

acoustic sky
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Did my first clear of the raid as assass, went really well. I was scared of the raw sim data but the spec does good overall

fossil sand
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are we playing twist the knife in any keys 6+?

rancid summit
acoustic sky
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Nah to be honest i was almost at 100% uptime on bosses

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Except gallywix where i did bombs

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got a decent reward tho

waxen field
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what a night

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im the sole dagger user btw

marsh raven
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I was wondering, what stats should I use on the everforged dagger for the final BiS? Crit / Mast is tempting but I could not find the info on the guide (maybe I can't read, it is late)

warm vortex
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Basic ass logs X)

balmy condor
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crit/mast is fine

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I personally just don't craft it with missives

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and let god take the wheel

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this patch is vers mast

hasty viper
balmy condor
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season 1 was vers haste

hasty viper
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The Fuck it, We ball approach

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Respectable

maiden sierra
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I just stayed up playing wow for 20 hours straight, i feel like i aged 10 years.
My left hand hurts...

spice spire
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Old

maiden sierra
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Real, as a 23 year old i feel like im on my last fumes

haughty flicker
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basically dead

warm vortex
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That raid was super fun tho imo

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Fav boss was prolly the security guy

icy mulch
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whats the first main piece you guys are buying for pvp with conquest?

haughty flicker
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might want to ask over in #pvp

balmy condor
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we're buying conquest gear?

maiden sierra
icy mulch
maiden sierra
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the trash is the worst raid trash in history of all wow raids

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i rather do mount hyjal than liberation of undermine trash

warm vortex
brave comet
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just encountered an amazing bug

brave comet
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final boss of mead doesnt move or attack

warm vortex
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C’thun trash

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????

brave comet
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she just stood there as a dummy

maiden sierra
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my guild literally said "fuck this, we are deathrunning to the boss room and soulstoning a healer to rez a warlock to summon everyone"

warm vortex
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Meh I disagree

warm vortex
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Just kill the trash

maiden sierra
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because we were permamently in combat with trash from other side of the raid

haughty flicker
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my guild wiped more to trash than to any of the bosses last night lmao

warm vortex
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Oh yea the combat thing sucks

maiden sierra
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its awfull

warm vortex
warm vortex
maiden sierra
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damn, 10 on heroic gallywix is kinda insane

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oh... it was normal

warm vortex
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Yea lmao

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X)

maiden sierra
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we 1 shotted every normal boss

warm vortex
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Fair, our guild moreso casual

maiden sierra
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fair fair

warm vortex
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Like we most likely will stop at AoTC

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Maybe try a tiny bit of mythic

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Maybe

haughty flicker
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we stopped before last two, rl was under the impression they were harder than they seem to be

maiden sierra
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i forget that mythic guilds are in the minority

haughty flicker
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so we just do those tomorrow then back into heroic

warm vortex
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Tbh with how uni works, it’s p much impossible for me to do mythic raising

warm vortex
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Speaking of I need to sleep
Also I was top dps on all bosses minus one I’m p sure so

maiden sierra
warm vortex
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I happi

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Still most likely swapping to BM

maiden sierra
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gotta climb those guild rankings

misty holly
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Bloodmallet updated with trinkets!

warm vortex
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Tbh most pulls 2 of the top 3 dps were assa rofues

misty holly
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4% nerf incoming?

lethal slate
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is 2p old and 2p new combined better than old 4p set?

nova kelp
vapid terrace
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New 2pc get asap

lethal slate
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ok

brave comet
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i really dont like the bleed build, is the regular build competitive with it at all?

lethal slate
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the bleed build is worse in a dungeon overall i think

brave comet
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THANK GOD

nova kelp
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just a gentle reminder that we don't have 4 set, new gear, and all sorts yet, you might find things change over time

balmy condor
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!up

celest crescent
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!tea

prisma monolithBOT
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
grave osprey
balmy condor
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worse boss damage

desert crest
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peak assa will be going afk for boss so we can do more aoe

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Clearly the design goal of bliz looking at the changes they have made lol

misty holly
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It makes a lot of sense. As the rogue spec modeled after Garona, of course we would be bad at killing a single target but good at wiping out hordes.

past bobcat
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Not having kingsbane is weird with bleed build lol

balmy condor
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then take it

misty holly
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I, for one, welcome our Arterial Precision overlords.

nova kelp
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Whyspyr learning to follow that new foreverguy way of life, zen the fuck out, ball with whatever, just push buttons gooder than other people

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watching the progression of peeps is awesome lol

lethal slate
runic hinge
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Just ask your tank to bring two packs into the bosses so you can look good there too

misty holly
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Make big trash pack pulls into the boss, like MDI does. Then you can keep pumping during bosses.

runic hinge
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Jinx

late kestrel
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were there any talent changes this last update?

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like trees i see look same but not sure if they did anything for sin

pure moth
earnest flume
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think the tierset tooltip is bugged, unless i was mistaken that it lasts 10 sec now? still says 4 sec for me

loud mauve
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is it worth keeping old 2 piece if we have higher ilvl new pieces? Currently got old 2 piece and new 2 piece but got some good gear I could replace old set with

balmy condor
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because of localization

balmy condor
earnest flume
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ok, thought i was gettin prepped to be sad

brave comet
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server shutdown, heres to blizzard choosing to shut down teh game cause rogue single target needs help

primal burrow
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For me 2PC S1 + 2PC S2 sim less than 4PC S1

bronze pike
balmy condor
oak tangle
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!up

tall atlas
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2s 2s sub vs sin who wins

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you decide

gray raven
amber brook
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Is the page missing Amorphous trinket from delves or is it just that irrelevant that its not on the page

tall atlas
patent snow
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Is there an updated spreadsheet?

gray raven
manic pebble
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
obsidian bear
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!guide

storm moat
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Ok so I've checked the guides and maybe I'm an idiot, but with Dragon-Tempered Blades is there no difference in application chance between three poisons or four? I think I'm misreading this..

young knot
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should i go 2set for now or stay previous season 4p?

balmy condor
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it's a global poison application reduction

balmy condor
storm moat
bronze pike
gleaming cedar
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Ratfang Toxin isn't simming terribly

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Anyone got thoughts on that Delve trinket?

balmy condor
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trinket for rats

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gets beat by anything of value

gleaming cedar
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😂

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Is the sim on it bait? I have bad trinkets so its probably why its better. Just want to make sure the sim is not broken for it

runic hinge
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Has the sim ever been broken?

gleaming cedar
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Idk I've played specs where they do not advise stuff like dungeon slicing, or I remember in DF the sims for some of the trinkets were not correct, I think the ruby whelp for some time?

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So I figure I'd ask in case anyone has heard anything about that with the ratfang trink

runic hinge
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Ask the purple guy who writes the sim

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Well he’s not purple irl just his name in discord

lethal arrow
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we're juiced

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ass stonks are up

zenith elm
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Noice !

zenith elm
lethal arrow
zenith elm
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Nice bro

lethal arrow
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stix is add pad

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cuz i took CT

zenith elm
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No match tho

lethal arrow
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if u check heroic stix parses

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im #2

zenith elm
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Oooh noice

lethal arrow
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if u wanan find it

zenith elm
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So AOE raid talent

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Just did np bro

grave osprey
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Got HOUSE OF CARDS BOIS!! LESSGOO

zenith elm
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You didnt wait to refore your weapon to 675 ?

zenith elm
lethal arrow
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nah i crafted my shit insta

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need it for raid prog

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also getting 90 gilded week 1 isnt easy

runic hinge
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It’s only 60

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You can get 21 from t11 delves

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The rest from 7’s

errant swallow
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What's the easiest delve right now to grind?

runic hinge
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The sluice one in undermine yesterday on NA was easy as hell and I got it to 11 in 45 minutes

errant swallow
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Thank you

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Bleed build?

runic hinge
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Yea

zenith elm
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Can we get the 675 crafted this week ?

placid wave
balmy condor
dapper cradle
balmy condor
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go goon king

dapper cradle
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i joined this random disc for keys

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and I saw they had a nsfw channel

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i thought it was just risque memes and shit

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legit straight raw bussy pics in there

winged sun
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MasterGooner69XD

zenith elm
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Daaaamn that got me hard.

zenith elm
runic hinge
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He Gamba’s no missive

balmy condor
zenith elm
peak bobcat
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Sub isn’t better than sin this tier

balmy condor
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shh

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impossible

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assa dead

keen spruce
peak bobcat
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Dry shiv put us as number 1 st spec in the game

runic hinge
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Real and true

gray hazel
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I don’t wanna craft a wep. Time to see what the dps difference will be

peak bobcat
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Why wouldn’t you craft a weapon

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It’s bis and gives you the most short term dps

gray hazel
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Just a whack preference I just hate it lol. Not sure if just used to doing boots/bracers from df so I prefer it

fallow estuary
# balmy condor

did the discount work for you / can you upgrade your 2nd dagger?

balmy condor
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no

fallow estuary
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Same here, maybe fixxed or i did something wrong

balmy condor
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its fixed

neat smelt
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nice

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for rings and trinkets also i assume

balmy condor
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yes

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aight done for the week

zenith elm
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Daaaamn you cooked

golden loom
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guess I have to wait for bonespike to do 16m damage

balmy condor
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my bone spike did 7.8 mil in 6 min on mug'zee earlier

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god speed

golden loom
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about to be the longest delve of all time

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atleast I can do some work

vale lantern
golden loom
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wtf kekdog I pressed my deathmark to activate trinket/pot to speed up the bonespike damage and it made the mob teleport back up through the floor

tame lake
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When do we send our shivs playing bleed build for M+ with no KB?

cinder bone
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Damn the dungeons this season are so melee unfriendly

severe meadow
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Kinda ate good on gear tonight for sure

golden loom
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bro this thing you buy to force spawn the delvers map guy has a 2 hour cd??

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like its on cooldown when you buy it..

bitter solar
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Mine had a 24hour CD cryge

subtle tundra
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cheater

vestal cliff
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when is the best time to collect the transmitter orb?

sacred schooner
golden loom
balmy condor
vestal cliff
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thank you ❤️

balmy condor
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“This season so melee unfriendly” and then it’s triple enhance + hpal keys

haughty flicker
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i will say the paladins in priory are annoying as fuck

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but pug tanks make that problem worse than it actually is

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but nothing strikes me as any more or less melee unfriendly as normal

rotund marsh
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Why do we not care about the auto proc anymore

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What changed? I remember people hating that passive of tea

golden loom
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it never really mattered numerically

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massive overreactions

rotund marsh
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Feel like if it auto casts it’s just saving you from pooling for longer

runic hinge
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It was very close to not mattering at all and now with kb nerfed and energy being how it is it’s better to use when you’re low. So basically when it auto procs

golden loom
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I mean the day the change was implemented the macro was recommended

rotund marsh
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But you should still have no issue with having access to tea when you are in your cds

golden loom
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cause the macro makes you use tea when you want it, and you cant auto proc something thats on cooldown so by just using stuff on cooldown shit just lines up

rotund marsh
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When shiv gets pressed that’s normally when you’re doing most of your damage as well right?

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Been checking macros on my characters and trying to add good ones I’m missing

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Gonna use this one for sure

tranquil stirrup
#

!up

peak bobcat
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Tea usage when you’re low energy good

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Tea usage when you’re doing burst good

indigo mulch
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
vestal cliff
#

is this pooling in the room with us right now?

rotund marsh
#

Haven’t really tested assa in st in a while

balmy condor
#

not since 10.2

rotund marsh
#

What did they change that fixed it?

balmy condor
#

removed dragonflight season 3 tier

rotund marsh
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Sounds nice even though I heard the ST damage is quite bad

rotund marsh
balmy condor
#

it was rapid injection but like 900% stronger

rotund marsh
#

Trying to look it up

balmy condor
rotund marsh
#

Ah right the gameplay was basically keeping envenom up constantly which meant spamming backstab into evenom right?

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Super costly

balmy condor
#

mutilate

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yes

rotund marsh
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Mutilate

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Yep sorry

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Yeah I remember assa was extremely good for raid that season

balmy condor
#

it was quite overtuned

rotund marsh
#

That’s when caustic was added right?

balmy condor
#

kingsbane is a phantom of what it was back then

rotund marsh
#

Think that’s when they did the whole rogue mini rework

balmy condor
#

yes

rotund marsh
#

Yeah with the bleed build I’m pretty interested in going hard on rogue again, just wish It was a bit easier to play all 3 specs with similar loot

wispy orchid
#

does anyone have the bis gear sin rogue sim?

subtle tundra
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@balmy condor come on help the man

balmy condor
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I'm good thanks

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what an awful ping to open the channel to

wispy orchid
#

oh

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mb lol

royal python
#

Is fatebound good this season

balmy condor
#

fuck no

vestal cliff
#

is transmitter alot better then skardyns?

grand night
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/macros

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f

subtle tundra
wispy orchid
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idgi either its posted somewhere obvious or you guys just don't think it's valuable enough to post

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i don't linger in this discord at all so i'm genuinely asking

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i found outlaws

royal python
subtle tundra
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and people are more likely to interpret it as if it is

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-> disregarded

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should've pinged whispyr

wispy orchid
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ok well, upon request, is it available somewhere

subtle tundra
#

theres this

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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
subtle tundra
#

though i heavily condone looking at any bis sim gear

wispy orchid
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it's for my own personal interest

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do not fear

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thank you for this

subtle tundra
#

yes thats why i heavily condone

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any information about bis gear is instantly wrong the moment you drop any piece of loot

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theres also a fuckload of bis gear combinations

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within margin of error

main hemlock
#

how is assa doing in raid?

subtle tundra
#

worse than sub

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also not very bad yet cause people arent geared

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once people are geared assa will fall behind

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and so will sub

tawny geyser
#

Caustic hits hard tho, many aoe fights😁

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I tried Rik with and without Caustic, with Caustic it hits harder, on HC

subtle tundra
#

yes?

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what did you expect

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how is that... surprising

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caustic is extremely powerful

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and internal bleeding is 3% dps

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wwwwwwwwhat

tawny geyser
#

Not surprised, just sayin😁

subtle tundra
#

also week 1 means adds live for longer than they will in future weeks

turbid crest
#

what do we craft guys dagger .

elfin oracle
#

My guild has a wish-list for the upcoming raid. Everyone can specify two items and will then be given priority in the loot allocation. What items would you put on it? ((You can't mention rare items, like the Gally ring))

I would say the card trinket "House of cards" from bandit.

turbid crest
#

?

royal lantern
#

outside of that? idk do a raid gear sim for that

turbid crest
#

eye of keyzan

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  • cards
subtle tundra
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lol you and the rest of the raid team will put house of cards and eye of kezan

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good wakeup call

elfin oracle
#

probably yea

turbid crest
#

did you crafted dagger guys ?

balmy condor
#

yep

turbid crest
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ty whispyr

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wich enchant do u put on it

balmy condor
#

depths for raid, power for m+

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just like my guide says

haughty flicker
turbid crest
storm forum
royal lantern
vestal cliff
hollow river
golden loom
proper cosmos
subtle tundra
#

@balmy condor does the craft exploit still work

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you crafted weapon you'd know

subtle tundra
#

my cock man

hollow river
#

they fixed a pvp gear thing that was really nice too

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blizzart joebigmad

subtle tundra
#

shittart

hollow river
#

day 1 all pvp s1 crafted gear could be recrafted to s2 gear and keep sockets/enchants

normal mist
#

Y'all enjoying the game?

golden loom
primal burrow
vestal cliff
#

for the first time i played some keys in a full premade group yesterday it was sooo awesome

royal lantern
golden loom
#

Tbh I had a blast in m+ yesterday but I didnt do past a +4

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Ran 5 +2 priories in a row just bleedbuilding and got a champ track signet

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Was a blast

vestal cliff
#

sounds fun af

subtle tundra
royal lantern
#

did 8 keys, only dropped a single item

vestal cliff
#

i got the goon squad trinket yesterday

subtle tundra
#

i got a dagger on rogue this season faster than last season, and i swapped off of rogue

royal lantern
#

atleast its a heroic chest i gues, so that vould be a catalyst angle

subtle tundra
#

anyone else wants to kill himself?

golden loom
#

Honestly only thing that I didnt find fun yesterday was running to the bosses in raid kekdog

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Like people getting ran over was funny the first 15 times

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Then not so much

balmy condor
#

I just need my weekly no leavers

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And I’m done

royal lantern
subtle tundra
royal lantern
#

aint no way im suffering trought a +10 lmao

balmy condor
royal lantern
balmy condor
#

With day 1 garbo

royal lantern
#

reach the first boss->1,3B hp

subtle tundra
#

tryan -.-

golden loom
#

You kill the other guy tho?

subtle tundra
#

stop

royal lantern
#

hit boss, cleave add

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aka "spatter do your job"

golden loom
#

Free energy and free CT value sounds good to me

plush iris
#

yo what we crafting?

royal lantern
#

the will to keep going

#

and a dagger i gues

plush iris
#

do we put ascendance on it or what we do

balmy condor
vestal cliff
#

Does someone know if you can do story mode gallywix already?

plush iris
#

whispyr u looking hella fine today

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just want u to know

golden loom
vestal cliff
#

ah damn

#

ty <3

balmy condor
vestal cliff
#

i guess i pray that i can pug some +7 for gilded then

balmy condor
#

Pugging week 1

vestal cliff
#

im scared yeah

#

but i dont know how to find a group

brisk forge
tawny geyser
#

Got Warbound Eye of Kezan 😂
Other guy got Jasper Ring warbound

fast mural
#

You guys playing the old build?

subtle tundra
#

what old build

fast mural
#

havent test yet the bleed build on left tree

subtle tundra
#

bleed is not something new

fast mural
#

ye the tyranical old one

#

have you test it

young knot
#

what we crafting this week? dagger?

subtle tundra
#

what tyrannical old one?

#

can you be explicit

fast mural
#

the no kb

subtle tundra
#

thats more of a meme build

#

yeah its playable, assa aoe is bonkers

velvet ridge
#

how do you get a spark

fast mural
#

ye ik true but st without mobs

subtle tundra
#

putting a point in kb is strictly better

fast mural
#

are depressing as always

subtle tundra
#

and you want to do even less?

#

what

balmy condor
fast mural
#

i asked you if you tested

velvet ridge
#

bleed build soooo fun

fast mural
#

not that i want to

subtle tundra
#

varas hating will never stop

balmy condor
#

Varas played bleed build in like a 16 last season lmao

#

He doesn’t need to test it

fast mural
#

lol

subtle tundra
#

just play it man

#

its assa

#

idk i gotta figure this monk shit out today

vestal cliff
#

just punch and kick you got this king

subtle tundra
#

i need to figure out if its me or the spec when i do bad dps

#

cause the spec does negative aoe

velvet ridge
#

huh

subtle tundra
#

ww....

subtle tundra
#

i know

#

but sometimes i feel like i press good buttons in aoe and still do 0 dps

tame lake
#

When do you shiv playing the bleed build for M+?

subtle tundra
#

just cause of this ill prove you wrong

#

ill be a god

noble steppe
subtle tundra
vale lantern
#

Time to reroll ele again for a day then get bored

#

Kidding ofc

dreamy gale
#

anyone seen the mister lock n stalk trinket?

#

wonder if precision blasting or mass destruction is better

#

actually thats a stupid question mass destruction is for aoe and precision for ST

velvet flint
#

Is there a place where I can easily see what build to play on what bosses?

subtle tundra
#

wowhead

velvet flint
young knot
#

should i craft dagger for this week?

hoary remnant
misty lark
#

what timer addons is everyone using my warpdeplete is like bugged or something

young knot
white tide
#

hey guys, i have a 639 sacbrood and 639 skardyns, got now a priory 649 it sims lower then the other both, but in general it should be better according to guides, should i replace one of the other trinkets?

analog field
#

Anyone can help me with the sim. I am doing a patchwerk (not sure if it is the right one for raid boss) 3min sim and i want to see for example how much damage the dry shiv does. Is there a way to check it ? I am looking at the sample ability log to see on this 1 iteration how much dmg it did. Is there another way ?

subtle tundra
#

no you cant

#

ok i dont know for sure, but ive never once in my life heard of finding information of that

faint path
#

which talents u guys are playing*

near oar
#

Hey guys should I use house of cards on cd or with deathmark?

#

Or it depends on the fight length?

subtle tundra
#

with deathmark

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macro it

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treat it as 2 min

#

ofc if fight is gonna end before deathmark comes up, and house is gonna be up, use it

#

and if you know that much you can also hold that last kb to line them up for more min-maxing

near oar
#

alright thank you

rocky zodiac
#

In NHC and HC do we Just send DM at pull or delay for damage amp? Dont know If it will align Like in myth

analog field
subtle tundra
#

i'd rather not macro it at all in that case and press it manually

#

cause of edge cases where you might use kb

#

and use house of cards too idk

stable scaffold
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
gentle forge
#

will deathmark duplicate present bleeds as well?

royal lantern
#

yes

azure mirage
#

Hello, I would like to know if the 4 p of the rog is full of bugs, I heard that, is it true or not at all?

golden loom
nova aspen
#

any1 know signet of the priory cd offhand?

#

is it 1.5 or 2

iron carbon
#

2

nova aspen
#

kk

solid hemlock
#

!shiv

#

what was the command for the no double tea shiv macro?

golden loom
#

!tea

prisma monolithBOT
#

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
ripe carbon
#

if you type !help it gives a list

solid hemlock
#

oh ty

scarlet meadow
#

what talents are you guys running for lower keys?

warm vortex
#

Guys

#

No more assa main

#

Gonna just swap to BM

#

Makes stuff so much easier :(

coral stump
#

yes….yes….

#

play bm……jack hammer…….

royal lantern
#

BUT its a real Rat Master then

golden loom
#

devious 18% CT

#

+4 cinderbleed

warm vortex
#

Hahah

warm vortex
#

I did get signet of the priory with leech on it

#

So i think it's a sign

#

Sadly it's champion tho

#

My hunter is still like 627
I can 100% do 7s on her, just getting into groups with that low i lvel

warm vortex
#

Hold the fuck on

#

UwU cutegirl

#

Thats my fuking guild tank you just did a key with XD

golden loom
#

lmao

#

cinderbrew fun dungeon

warm vortex
#

But yea i just looked at it and thought

#

"Wait, i know that guy"

restive hawk
#

is the recrafting missive for free upgrades trick gone?
dont want to spend 30k for nohing

oblique iron
#

The bleed build doesn’t run KB right?

coral stump
warm vortex
#

The games gonna not give me a mythic or heroic track one

#

because i used up all my luck already

coral stump
#

yeah okay

#

you say that now

#

and then ur gonna get a mythic speed one

warm vortex
#

God i wish that were me

#

maybe

#

I never know

#

Tbh grace taking 38 ish runs wasn't too bad
So i hope i get it in like

#

sub 50

#

The hardest part about it is getting into a priory group though

restive hawk
#

got these 2 babies in the random runs i did yesterday

#

guild screamed at me

warm vortex
#

See that's who you should be saying "fuck you" to trick

coral stump
#

you little shit

humble verge
#

cause i didnt get to sim it last night 😴

restive hawk
#

simmed 12k better than spyglass

humble verge
#

i got ovi egg tho but

#

idk if itll be better

spice spire
#

I got a normal house of cards big loot garf

humble verge
#

same garf

#

simming most loot i got from m+ and raid last night

peak bobcat
#

Gotta be bis

spice spire
#

I lost it

humble verge
#

wait which goon trinket

#

🤨

spice spire
#

Zee’s thug hotline

scarlet wyvern
#

i cant comprehend how some people already have 4p set xD

spice spire
#

2p from raid, catalyst charge + ksm or AotC charge

#

Also very convinced that cinderbrew is just a bleed build dungeon

primal burrow
#

Because of your name ?

spice spire
#

No because you do like 5 GIGA pulls

cerulean walrus
warm vortex
#

It's ok UvU

warm vortex
royal lantern
#

then decide

humble verge
#

i already have normal tier legs

warm vortex
warm vortex
#

On champion tho

#

lol

spice spire
warm vortex
#

But yea
Especially with the dungeons this season I’m going BM

peak bobcat
#

It actually pumps

royal lantern
#

maybe i get a 2nd item from m+ today

#

lmao

#

who am i kidding

spice spire
#

Tyrannical the ST mattered a bit

royal lantern
#

if it makes them happy

spice spire
#

I mean it does pump

nova aspen
spice spire
#

No arguments

royal lantern
#

and then complain in 2 weeks that its bad and wowhead is stupid for recommending it cus it has low boss dmg dracthyr_kek

nova aspen
#

ran a 2 priory and i fucking knew id get it

spice spire
#

And ST is borderline a joke

#

Because uh

#

Yeah

golden loom
#

CT is just the most broken spell we have

nova aspen
#

1st priory key in the season, classic

golden loom
#

its not close

royal lantern
analog field
#

@balmy condor hello good sir I am trying to compare logs together with the SIM rotation and I see that in the logs we both cast ambush at around 0.5 sec and garrote at 3.5. Is this happening for a reason? is it lag in the logs or something? Also I am not sure the best way to compare and understand where I am losing damage.

royal lantern
#

since TWW launch

golden loom
#

also I love the xalatath affix atm

#

like u just gain so much CT/IC value out of it when it spawns at a good time

grave osprey
#

Bleeds on top!

peak bobcat
#

Bleed build in theater of pain

#

Crazy value

spice spire
grave osprey
#

Bro bleed build everywhere

spice spire
#

Xav wing says hello

golden loom
#

gaining a max damage CT on a boss cause the lil orbs pop up 🔥

grave osprey
#

I keep seeing ST this ST that, as if ST wasn’t also terrible in the hybrid build lol

peak bobcat
#

Not like kingsbane is gonna make you do any more damage

#

Still doing tank dps on st

grave osprey
#

Both m+ builds have garbo st

peak bobcat
#

But I can’t be fucked to play sub that shit is so boring

spice spire
#

Yeah but the log Jam when running with a 640 Ret ain’t packs in an 8

peak bobcat
#

Can’t play with those filthy pad specs

#

That’s our job

nova aspen
#

i still run hybrid

#

even though the bleed is fun

#

our aoe is nuts regardless, so i figure to help the weakest point as much as possible

grave osprey
#

They should nerf CT by 10% and buff our ST by 10% 😉😉

nova aspen
#

especially with tyrannical starting at 7

grave osprey
#

Yeah, ill be running hybrid by 7 too.

nova aspen
#

also trying to figure out the best IW dungeons

#

i think rookery is a good one for it

#

and if u dont use IW, where to put the point instead

#

SB, SD, or dashing

#

right now its been in SD

warm vortex
#

Yea rookery is good for IW

lofty inlet
#

Is Assas the go to spec for m+ this season? Or sub ?

warm vortex
#

Outlaw

#

JK I think it’s sub?

#

Tbh tho like

#

It’s so early in the season

#

For now just play what you want

prisma monolithBOT
nova aspen
#

bout a 100k dps difference

warm vortex
#

Wait it’s outlaw?

#

Holy shit I was joking

#

Or am I reading the sheet wrong

nova aspen
#

it is not outlaw

warm vortex
#

Oh

nova aspen
#

outlaw always sims high in dungeon slice

#

because it doesnt sim 15 targets

#

it sims 5 and 1 or some shit

#

so peak for outlaw

warm vortex
#

Oh yea true

#

Thank fuck

faint vessel
#

also lets be real - outlaw has to be significantly better than the other 2 , at least for me

warm vortex
#

Imagine outlaw being meta

faint vessel
#

Im not going to enjoy myself 20% less for 5% more damage

warm vortex
#

Bliz doesn’t like outlaw

#

Also

hardy rapids
#

Wasn’t outlaw the go to m+ spec for fucking forever though?

warm vortex
#

Woke up at 5 after sleeping for 4 hours

#

Just reached the point in the day where like

#

I just drop dead

lofty inlet
#

What about raids tho ?

faint vessel
#

for raid theres a dependency on encounter and downtime etc

#

if its a fight with forced downtime, outlaw will fall behind regardles of the patchwerk sim

warm vortex
#

Tbh imma just roll BM in every boss

sterile violet
#

guys whats best gem for helmet

lofty inlet
#

Aight I'm going sub every boss :v

faint vessel
#

yeah i mean sub seems to be trending higher across the bosses

sterile violet
#

should i go blasphemite or Master

faint vessel
#

but theres a good mix of all 3 specs across the bosses, probably a play what you want angle for now

peak bobcat
#

Sub obviously looks good but sin feels absolutely crazy on the last 3

#

The execute lust gets me so bricked

nova aspen
#

yeah the fact that sub does not get an execute

#

its fun but idk if i like it for m+, maybe just raid

#

i also dont have a 90s trinket

peak bobcat
#

Im using the serum delve trinket rn and i want to die

faint vessel
#

yeah I was gonna say, later bosses have the execute and sin will probably cook there

#

but thats not really relevant for my mythic prog 😂 and hopefully execute damage isnt whats holding us back for a heroic kill

turbid crest
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
warm vortex
#

Execute DM + KB + Lust hits hard

#

Feels so good

#

One thing imma miss

tawdry root
#

What do people mean by execute damage in the last few bosses? Is there a reason we have better damage in execute range compared to other bosses?

golden loom
#

But for those bosses, execute is the important part of the fight so good execute gains value

viral idol
#

Guys do someone knows how haste affects energy regen? I mean calculations to have somehow a base of how much haste should I go in raid? I feel I'm laking of energy and my dmg falls off after the opening and energy has became a trouble now.

prisma monolithBOT
#

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

coral ibex
#

!stats

prisma monolithBOT
#

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
  • Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
coral ibex
#

!pooling

prisma monolithBOT
#
  • Energy just is low on the spec there's nothing to do about it
  • Super Min-Max stuff includes avoiding the auto proc of tea (less than +0.2%, tea/shiv macro is optimal)
  • Refreshing Envenom in pandemic instead of spamming it (mostly relevant for m+ without TTK, can be up to 0.5%)
  • Otherwise nothing matters. Pooling before kingsbanes isn't important because of tea lining up and deathmark giving a huge surge of energy
coral ibex
#

i swear there’s a moroes message about haste adding like 1 action per minute

golden loom