Kings bane rn
#assassination
spice spire
hexed frost
So we finally embracing garrote supremacy.
Gg
Next logical step is to nerf splatter and buff the bleeds
dapper cradle
grim jay
uh
runic hinge
I am probably gonna play bleed but I'm only gonna push to 3k so it'll be fine for what i need
rotund oak
Next logical step is to nerf splatter and buff the bleeds
heretic
hexed frost
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1317321735569408030/1317321817798479872/E...
Why did you crop me out?
spice spire
Why did you crop me out?
hexed frost
the move is just waiting for daddy whispyr
If whispyr has a million fans, then I am one of them. If whispyr has ten fans, then I am one of them. If whispyr has only one fan then that is me. If whispyr has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is against whispyr, then I am against the world.
left loom
The fact that we had least changes on official patchnotes out of all cleases is a sign of super accurate class gameplay or their "dont giving a fuck about rogues"
spice spire
This has to be a copy pasta
agile geode
sin is still DS in next tier?
and with new buffs and hotfix are we good right now or?
spice spire
sin is still DS in next tier?
Yes
spice spire
and with new buffs and hotfix are we good right now or?
Lower side of fine (idk what current updated warrior looks like for what’s the top end)
unkempt lantern
What hot fix
agile geode
tier set
was bugged i guess? didnt want to do misinformation
4p was giving nothing now it should be more
thanks btw
forest garden
Tier set works now so Assassination will probably be fine to play in raid and M+
cerulean nest
I feel like all the epic tier sets coming out are ignorant of the fact that our tier was fixed
forest garden
This one and Sub's were bugged
nimble tartan
it has been a pleasure guys
runic hinge
enjoy being a sub rogue buddy
past oracle
Don’t need to say goodbye we will all be over there
nimble tartan
i quite enjoyed sin this tier though it was comfymaxxin
grim jay
I always chat here even if I play sub
subtle tundra
dick ass
royal lantern
awwwww
haughty flicker
spice spire
yes. home is where the heart is
spice spire
I’m nonplussed
hollow river
radiant raven
I'm hype for Jazz tier
lavish wing
Don’t need to say goodbye we will all be over there
what did I miss
past oracle
Nothin
lavish wing
did sub somehow overnight become the promised spec
past oracle
There has been 800 posts in sub channel since this morning and 25 in outlaw and ass
Gg
cerulean nest
did sub somehow overnight become the promised spec
all the tier lists are coming out and everyones putting it above lol
radiant raven
Time to post more, imo
cerulean nest
thats all
cerulean nest
mhm
but also every tier list ive seen the dude is like "but ass could easily move up a tier or two idk lol"
muted ridge
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
lavish wing
and nobody ever puts their main spec in S
past oracle
I feel like sub was pretty close to ass this tier. And they got 20% base buff?
lavish wing
like "yea, its playable, not OP, could be bteer, its B+"
past oracle
It’s still a lot considering ass didn’t get anything but some CT damage
lavish wing
if I understood correctly, sub still got nerfed overal? tho 4p was ridiculous
dapper cradle
Sub season lets go
past oracle
Sub tier hot nerfed but they got base damage to replace
royal python
Not true, on fight like ovinax n kyveza assassination is superior.
boreal grove
Sub 🤮
runic hinge
sub will be meta cause it doesn't have the single target struggles assa does so the tier list will let people figure it out, when they were already close
lavish wing
but how many fights r pure st?
runic hinge
fotms will be over there
past oracle
About half
cerulean nest
people are saying boss timings are "better" for 1.5 min but im not enough of a virgin to have that all mapped out already
runic hinge
i'm talking all the m+ rerollers
royal python
Ovinax was not st, n kyveza was, it's about cd timings, for court n queen sub timings line up better
marble hemlock
as a melee, for all intents and purposes, most fights end up being st
marble hemlock
because we dont get to cleave, thats a ranged thing because blizz tends to design fights where youre not allowed to tank adds next to boss
was a bit different this tier thankfully
but that aint gonna last
most add fights in liberation are kinda spread cleave again
spice surge
Was a 5% nerf overall though
Nah ended up more like -1%, but thats compared to previous PTR with tierset
Not compared to current live
past oracle
Here’s another thing someone said - all the off piece catalyze to vers mastery
Which is nuts
proven jasper
Nah ended up more like -1%, but thats compared to previous PTR with tierset
Ah that not bad then, cant really be saying sub got buffed though 
spice surge
Ah that not bad then, cant really be saying sub got buffed though <:kekdog:90720...
Absolutely can say sub got buffed
marble hemlock
i think theres a grand total of like 2 crit/vers leather items across all bosses and dungeons
spice spire
Sick of sin
Fuck you too
spice surge
Im literally simming 17% higher on ptr than live as sub
And the tier set is still a solid 14%
marble hemlock
Fuck you too
true, you are sin incarnate
dapper cradle
Damn F
spice spire
https://tenor.com/view/get-on-wow-get-on-wow-gif-27154606
Us
proven jasper
Im literally simming 17% higher on ptr than live as sub
Log in
marble hemlock
and i bet you know which one i mean
proven jasper
spice spire
and i bet you know which one i mean
Never sinned a day in my life
marble hemlock
brother youre hitting lust every single day
royal python
The only rogues crying about sub getting buffed are the one trick sin ponies 😄
runic hinge
no one is crying anywhere about sub getting buffed
royal python
Otherwise nobody cares which spec strong
lavish wing
rogues should all be one big family... except for the pirates... fuck the pirates
past oracle
No one is crying was just discussing spec atm
proven jasper
Any rogue buffs and this entire disc is in rejoice
we love buffs no matter what spec
subtle tundra
bro last 2 weeks of the patch and i have killed for the first time silken court on two characters and on both teams
runic hinge
gamer
subtle tundra
life is shit
lavish wing
Whispyr needs to make a pin about tier lists
royal python
Both specs have done well for many tiers
past oracle
Sub right now has equivalent base damage as outlaw - burst over ass and outlaw - tankiness over ass. Also best tier bonus as far as I can tell
I think sub is the spec
lavish wing
im no stranger to swapping between the assa and sub depending on fights
cerulean nest
I just hate gearing two different stat priorities at the same time
I know sin cares less but still
subtle tundra
boys assa will get buffed
royal python
Sub has always had higher burst than assassination, outside zoldyck
subtle tundra
and do better than the other 2 specs
lavish wing
yea but at what point it starts to matter
marble hemlock
@spice spire cant wait for all the fotm rerollers to leave so we can be gay with each other in here all by ourselves
past oracle
Right but sub usually has low base - they buffed sub base?
lavish wing
like deep into the season when u already have fcktons of gear
proven jasper
Right but sub usually has low base - they buffed sub base?
Its still going to be low
lavish wing
like a week or two into the patch
bruh 2ndary stat weight is a joke 😄
grim jay
bruh 2ndary stat weight is a joke 😄
hu
subtle tundra
wrong?
reply?
royal python
It's always going to be about boss timings, both specs are roughly going to be same
lavish wing
wrong?
reply?
maybe, dunno, came after what i said 😄
marble hemlock
someone has to hold the camera
mild jacinth
in mythic+ when i only have one charge of shiv should i use it at the start of kingsbane or near the end?
runic hinge
End
grim jay
someone has to hold the camera
we can just take turns
mild jacinth
ty
runic hinge
someone has to hold the camera
spice spire
<@226508540746006528> cant wait for all the fotm rerollers to leave so we can be...
Implying the fotm rollers will stop me
light rapids
during my rotation should I be pressing thistle tea, or letting it auto drink when at 30%?
scenic nacelle
during my rotation should I be pressing thistle tea, or letting it auto drink wh...
Bind to shiv
light rapids
🧠
scenic nacelle
!tea
prisma monolithBOT
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
wisdom. tysm!
royal lantern
<@226508540746006528> cant wait for all the fotm rerollers to leave so we can be...
wdym "wait for them to leave"
2months ago this channel was 80% blockes Messages from the fotm yellow names
now they all are gone 
runic hinge
wdym "wait for them to leave"
2months ago this channel was 80% blockes Messages...
Now when I check on sub channel I see the blocked messages again
royal lantern
Now when I check on sub channel I see the blocked messages again
LOL
spice spire
Dog how do you guys have people blocked
radiant raven
proven jasper
Its literally just outlaw players
spice spire
And like not to the homies as a meme
royal python
during my rotation should I be pressing thistle tea, or letting it auto drink wh...
Press twice during deathmark, to cover the last 12 seconds of it
spice spire
Just egoing randoms asking for help is a quick way to hit my block list
spice spire
<:garf_sit:1334889429449314456>
royal lantern
during my rotation should I be pressing thistle tea, or letting it auto drink wh...
!tea
prisma monolithBOT
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
use that, forget tea exists
runic hinge
Dog how do you guys have people blocked
People annoy me fast tbh. Mostly it was just fotm people I knew would leave if Assa wasn’t S tier again
spice spire
I mean block the people who don’t bring you peace
If I ever block you outside of a meme
It’s joever tho
simple stirrup
Anyone having problems pulling mobs with just targeting something?
runic hinge
I mean block the people who don’t bring you peace
M+ titles are regional right? So when someone comes in here every day for a week complaining about Chinese players bug abusing story mode for buffs for dungeons when they are very clearly gonna get title regardless it’s just annoying as hell
simple stirrup
maybe because of MC or smth?
runic hinge
Anyone having problems pulling mobs with just targeting something?
!corrupt
prisma monolithBOT
Corrupt the Blood/Rupture Bug
Corrupt the blood can jump to mobs that are out of combat when the rupture-afflicted target changes from harmful to non-harmful
This is repeatable with mind control, but is most common on the third boss of Grim Batol when skipping the two elites before the boss.
You can avoid it by being EXTREMELY careful to not target anything when your target shifts, but otherwise not much to be done. Just be careful and aware as it is a niche bug that should not happen frequently
royal lantern
M+ titles are regional right? So when someone comes in here every day for a week...
yep, thats 1 of the 4 guys
spice surge
Just egoing randoms asking for help is a quick way to hit my block list
Ill ego you buddy
spice spire
He’s not entered my block list. Mine is GIGA obscure anyway
spice spire
Ill ego you buddy
How about you ego it doing tricks
simple stirrup
okay so that means
if you rupture a mob and it gets mc'd
As soon as I target a new pack it will pull?
runic hinge
Yeah it can
runic hinge
yep, thats 1 of the 4 guys
Also Mr “I work in hospitality so blizzard should be at work on a Saturday fixing a bug for a ring that doesn’t max out for 4 more weeks during Christmas break.”
haughty flicker
lmao that sounds like a fun convo i missed
haughty flicker
normal mist
Good job
normal mist
Also Mr “I work in hospitality so blizzard should be at work on a Saturday fixin...
i remember that conversation, such a stupid guy
runic hinge
i remember that conversation, such a stupid guy
The dude has been timed out twice and he’s only been here since October. Crazy work
spice spire
The dude has been timed out twice and he’s only been here since October. Crazy w...
God he’s just like me fr
spice spire
starting to learn
humble verge
IM NOT THAT GOOD AT THE GAME
humble verge
thats what u deserve buddy
velvet cairn
IM NOT THAT GOOD AT THE GAME
one day, one day
spice spire
NOT A GREEN LOGGER CONFIRMED
Blue on silken?
spice spire
Dw I’m just a hater
spice spire
Good job beating the allegations tho
humble verge
also holy
im looking at the my uldir and bod logs
💀
also yeah, cucked on CE both
i think that uldir
was at some point rank 5 or something
and in CN lmao
humble verge
sadge
quaint spindle
How are we looking on the ptr
humble verge
How are we looking on the ptr
no idea, somewhat ok
haughty flicker
and be good at the game again
quaint spindle
I just don’t want to play sub
humble verge
this season is my comeback
i havent played since SL, but i always have been good at picking up the class i started with
: D
glad i didnt change off rogue
haughty flicker
yeah looks like it worked out lmao
humble verge
also i spent more time actually improving
simming more
looking at openers
what to do
when and where
in most if not any scenario
balmy condor
I just don’t want to play sub
Then don’t play sub
quaint spindle
Then don’t play sub
Shit your right mb dad
balmy condor
Np gotchu
nova aspen
forest garden
Assassination should be good enough for the average person to play it
This isn't a "we don't want you to play Demonology" situation
runic hinge
What if I’m below average
forest garden
Quit
runic hinge
tardy echo
This is our last week to hope for ce, on queen right now. we can get to p1 intermission but havent gotten through the shield yet. Any tips for platforms/p3 to help speed run the progging for our last ditch hope?
tips for assa players obv
haughty flicker
have you tried playing eye of the tiger
normal mist
Chances of getting better go up by 50%
balmy condor
Aside from stepping a mage in p3 for ring
Not a lot really
Kill add go in portal pump boss don’t stand in poop
tardy echo
wait why a mage for ring?
haughty flicker
mage blinks you step
tardy echo
oh okay
i follow
thats what i assumed just figured id ask.
def trying the eye of the tiger thing tho
severe meadow
P3 is fairly easy if you can get there
pliant remnant
haughty flicker
ive never wiped in p3
normal mist
def trying the eye of the tiger thing tho
If things get really close and you can see the timer before the servers reset for the last time in S1...
i advice this song
severe meadow
With current damage you can probably skip the 2nd essence pickups, no?
normal mist
hearty reef
@balmy condor monkey paw next tuning?
balmy condor
With current damage you can probably skip the 2nd essence pickups, no?
Assuming they aren’t dogshit yes
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> monkey paw next tuning?
Dunno
humble verge
What if I’m below average
change class
balmy condor
Prog this late doesn’t give much hope that they have the damage for that
But it is entirely possible to skip the ring yeah
severe meadow
Well especially if they’re not breaking intermission shield
tardy echo
with 18% dmg buff plus honestly my group the damage is huge we just suck at mechanics. alot of people are just dead to standing in the wrong pimple pop/ webblades/ booger trucks. we almost kill the shield with only half the players up during intermission. all it takes is one time with everyone alive.
only so many brezes
balmy condor
What % y’all going into the shield with
severe meadow
with 18% dmg buff plus honestly my group the damage is huge we just suck at mech...
If your group sucks at mechanics, portals / kicks will be a bitch for you in p2 I imagine
tardy echo
our last night had 17 wipes during intermission ranging from 46-51% most around 47/48%
i expect it will be honestly.
severe meadow
Are you lusting on pull
tardy echo
yeah
spice spire
51% is insanely high
tardy echo
interesting, we do have a few people that are a bit low but it feels things are fine so long as people arent dead.
severe meadow
51% is a lot dead I assume
balmy condor
Yeah I’d hope that’s with a lot dead
tardy echo
yeah it is. i don't think we've gotten into intermission even once with no one dead yet. we were having a healing problem with the second wrest so kept dropping there as well
nova kelp
what is even a good non lust % now with the recent gains we've had?
severe meadow
Do you have people who can cheat the wrest cheating it?
tardy echo
i believe our smarter players are projecting we beat shield before 4rd wrest
severe meadow
4rd 
balmy condor
what is even a good non lust % now with the recent gains we've had?
For prog or like farm kills
tardy echo
yeah
nova kelp
For prog or like farm kills
idk hey, it's always so hard to tell what's good between guilds, I think our recent clear had us at like 42%, but I have no fucking idea if that's good
balmy condor
On farm non lust I’ve seen like 44ish
But it’s a small sample size
Cause idk who tf isn’t lusting pull
Kinda troll not to
severe meadow
P3 lust enjoyers (bait)
nova kelp
oh yeh, I was mistaken, it was apparently a 44.2, we didn't lust pull, through habit more than anything else I think
balmy condor
Unless you have like 7 mages
Yeah that’s pretty much where it should be
On prog I’ve seen like 47 but also kinda messy
Some guilds were at like 50 and it was so painful to watch
Just dog awful dps
tardy echo
so i guess were not too far off the mark so long as we can clean it up. our best pull we were at 46 but looking at it our healer died right before intermission and first wrest killed people not topped off.
balmy condor
It’s probably a bit behind
severe meadow
Dying to first wrest is crazy work
balmy condor
You’d have to do second ring in p3 with 46
tardy echo
yikes okay, i guess we will see what class changes does to our damage tomorrow night.
balmy condor
Like ideally you’d want to be at 42
42 can skip
Probably doable a little higher if you have giga execute or shaman rng or something
But lower makes it easier obv
severe meadow
What if they ran the funny crackling strat thing
tardy echo
true thanks for the knowledge at this point i think im doing well in terms of my personal dmg and until the last half hour when im falling asleep im pretty clean on mechanics normally no.1/2 dps for the group going into intermission but imma just cross my fingers and hope
haughty flicker
sometimes thats all you can realistically do
cinder steppe
for the cloak on kyveza do you need to do it after the dash hits you or before?
earnest remnant
before
balmy condor
What if they ran the funny crackling strat thing
Then they’d fall even further behind
severe meadow
Then they’d fall even further behind
Because of the deaths or the strat itself
balmy condor
The strat
severe meadow
It that bad?
cinder steppe
Or else you still get the balls
does it need to be in the last sec like the sikran explosion or can it be any time?
smoky canopy
just before, as long as its up when it hits
graceful solstice
Any time
dapper cradle
gorechop's boss room looks like quake's kinky ass bedroom ngl
spice spire
??)
haughty flicker
i thought i recognized it
somber sparrow
i'd need some reference images
spice spire
Come thru bbgirl
balmy condor
It that bad?
It’s good on omega speed kills like the sub 2 min bloodbound kills cause everyone jumps in and it obliterates the boss
But on longer fights especially on prog it’s straight up not a dps gain
And war queens got nerfed in patch tomorrow on top of it
vale lantern
for our guild it was a major dps increase to do the funny crackling thing its prob the reason we killed the boss (we didnt force suicide people)
that being said whispyr is right its nerfed tomorrow
but it was like 4%-6% gain for p1 for us
balmy condor
I can't imagine that's true
vale lantern
lemme see if i can find out week over week logs
balmy condor
4-6% in pure single target with no deaths is something else
runic hinge
Couldn’t be a finery buff
balmy condor
cause the argument for the whole strat is legit "if people die big boom"
earnest remnant
cause the argument for the whole strat is legit "if people die big boom"
feel like you had this exact same convo like two weeks ago
balmy condor
I have this convo every week
earnest remnant
and it ended up just being them playing cleaner
vale lantern
Couldn’t be a finery buff
it was after we were max finery buff
balmy condor
I've looked at like 30-40 logs of this stupid fucking gem at this point
and it has never been a dps gain on queen
kpb made a good point about speed kills where you can suicide everyone at the end of like a 1:30 bloodbound kill
that makes sense
but on prog? absolutely fucking cooked
and I have not once seen it actually be good
severe meadow
I have this convo every week
I only knew of the strat but didn't know the logistics of it, sorry for bringing it up boss 🥒
severe meadow
It was the seeing like 1 rogue on top parses with it type thing
Like " oh what is this"
balmy condor
yeh the big details bar effect
vale lantern
looking ast day over day (tuesday to wednesday) it was ~2-3% in p1 (end of intermission)
our add phase (p2) took a decent hit from it though
balmy condor
link it
severe meadow
Is it possible to sim the strat for fuck-a-round purposes?
vale lantern
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/KP6TZ1HXpwVxbMdm?fight=23 (without also with 0 deaths before p2)
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/H1QpAGNVwbBvy7h2?fight=last (with also with 0 deaths before p2)
balmy condor
no
vale lantern
our on voluntary suicide was our priest for the free res on a someone else in p3
balmy condor
these are both circlet cheese
vale lantern
oh shit lemme get earlier in the night
it was first reclear we tried it without after killing it with
i grabbed wrong logs
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/8MfCh4PytXTLZY9N?fight=76&type=damage-done this was our week without @balmy condor
balmy condor
why is 2/3rds of your roster different
keen spruce
balmy condor
vale lantern
warcraft logs is griefing me
balmy condor
idk though, like the people that were the same in both
vale lantern
the second roster is our bench people we were making sure got CE
earnest remnant
hands diff
balmy condor
like you're telling me
he swapped the gem
lost 2k stat
and then just did the same dam
lemme check the full night idk
but this is weird
vale lantern
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/WQrwhy9RZB3kKxgC?fight=8&type=damage-done this should be the kill from the second week
our players are extremely inconsistent
balmy condor
yeah I'm seeing that
nova kelp
it's coz the mechanics just fucked me over on 75% of my pulls
vale lantern
so for us i suppose it just added consistency
nova kelp
not my fault
balmy condor
the shaman swapped to war queens and then over a course of the night did 275k more dps
what the fuck lmao
vale lantern
it's coz the mechanics just fucked me over on 75% of my pulls
this is just in general our raids are inconsistent (we have a tread of one of our members who just dive bomb kills people)
vale lantern
this doesnt even show his root damage hes jump to like 8m dps (details) cause how tremor totem lined up
balmy condor
half of them aren't losing damage from the swap, the shaman decided to do 250k more, I'm ngl maybe it's worth for this but I can't tell what the hell is going on
vale lantern
so i guess in our case with lack of consistency on damage it helped us on prog there were some pulled pre swapping we had it down just as low without the gems and others we had it down even lower with the gems but never consistantly the same
balmy condor
yeh dunno
royal lantern
i wish i could decide to just do 250k more dmg
vale lantern
i wish i could decide to just do 250k more dmg
me too
balmy condor
wasn't even over one pull
royal lantern
Let me introduce you to CT padding
forbidden fruit
balmy condor
he just did 250k more across 3 pulls compared to 7 pulls
royal lantern
thats why god banished us from eden
balmy condor
Let me introduce you to CT padding
doesn't even work in this case cause the webs are removed, that's just boss damage
severe meadow
doesn't even work in this case cause the webs are removed, that's just boss dama...
I’m just being a little silly
balmy condor
I'm a confused man
severe meadow
Stop looking at logs for tonight I think
vale lantern
maybe seeing other people up there above him made him push his buttons harder
balmy condor
circlet dies in a couple weeks amen god bless
vale lantern
our goal was def to suicide people right before the 2ed ring hit but it never hit so we didnt have too
balmy condor
can't believe they somehow copy pasted an entire patch but made it more cringe
severe meadow
So it’s just not getting more ilvl in s2?
vale lantern
speaking of circlet in terms of just my self (no raid included) do we replace it next tier
vale lantern
okays
balmy condor
and atm it's 1% better than full myth rings
vale lantern
gross
balmy condor
so nerfs probably inc
vale lantern
atleast ill get my 4set now
balmy condor
their tuning would've been spot on for heroic ring level
but people weren't equipping it until like week 4
and blizzard didn't like that
so they giga buffed it
and now it's crazy
so now they have to giga nerf it back to where it was in the first place
basic blizzard logic tbh
build a tower, break it down
severe meadow
Why did they even add it in the first place
balmy condor
to keep people logging in while nothing was happening
severe meadow
Fair
balmy condor
they dedicated themselves a patch every 8 weeks
so now you gotta get a patch every 8 weeks
whether you like it or not
vale lantern
honestly without it we prob wouldnt have killed queen when we have people doing this https://www.twitch.tv/shiftcase/clip/ModernCoweringFoxPeoplesChamp-GvRmt6mN21a6xXkG in our raid
balmy condor
huge
vale lantern
that was the dragon who said "i hate this game" after he drifted into me
alpine pagoda
evry1hate this game
balmy condor
that was the dragon who said "i hate this game" after he drifted into me
and yes we did have 300 pulls on court thank you for asking
vale lantern
our clip was also on our court reclear
only 170 pulls though
200+ pulls though and we had the same people dying to first waves on queen still 😦
vale lantern
gotta love the suicide bombers
severe meadow
gotta love the suicide bombers
Me shadowstepping to the opposite color
vale lantern
https://www.twitch.tv/shiftcase/clip/NurturingRespectfulLouseM4xHeh-Y9QzhulCv9TzP7tR partly my fault cause i shoulda ran more forward
but same guy
vale lantern
Me shadowstepping to the opposite color
best way to end a wipe the othe rperson"how did you get me so fast"
vale lantern
i just selected our paladin healer
severe meadow
People still play holy?
vale lantern
if he was dead it was our mage or the outlaw rogue
severe meadow
vale lantern
but then the outlaw rogue started playing bowling on wipes and grappled through the blue players
vale lantern
People still play holy?
not next patch
severe meadow
KS on court 
vale lantern
noo noo she was to afraid
severe meadow
I think that’s illegal
waxen oyster
vale lantern
trueee
normal mist
vale lantern
<a:JAMcat:749926215543947366>
what weapon
normal mist
Weeb
nova kelp
Longsword 4 life
normal mist
vale lantern
what comes up when i search weeb monster hunter weapon and honestly its exactly what i thought
normal mist
That's exactly it ahahah
nova kelp
mine is typically LS and bow heads and shoulders over the rest
vale lantern
i was a lance/GS player in worlds i think ima do charged blade this time
nova kelp
but I love to hunting horn with friends, not to actually help, just to dance around like a dickhead while they kill things for me
vale lantern
but I love to hunting horn with friends, not to actually help, just to dance aro...
literally me my firends are so much better at the game than me i just wanna make monster go bonk
nova kelp
"I'm helping I swear, do YOU play HH? No, YOU don't know"
normal mist
Truth be told, the hardest content I did in iceborne was with dbs
nova kelp
the ONLY bad thing about the wilds release is that my guild is going to have to carry me in the early gearing process coz I'll be afk
vale lantern
one of my buddies is a duel blades main cause bayblade on monsters back
vale lantern
the ONLY bad thing about the wilds release is that my guild is going to have to ...
one of our healers is quitting cause of wilds 😦
vale lantern
true very true
nova kelp
I've been here since classic, I don't understand life without it anymore so I unfortunately have to do the stupid thing and continue huffing the copium for rogue changes
normal mist
vale lantern
i asked for bleed buffs to not swap to being a kitty they gave bleed buffs if anything so now i play assassin more
nova kelp
lol my guildies be like "DUDE YOU GOT AOE'ER AOE SHIV THOUGH!"
normal mist
For me it was only fun when after 6 hours of trying I soloed ark
Then I felt fulfillment
And quit the beta
severe meadow
First time I threw him on his ass from a clash, I was in
nova kelp
I have to admit, GS in wilds does look REALLY fun
heaps faster than before
but the soul crushing feeling of whiffing your fully charged overhead of an angry god...
severe meadow
LS was fun too but I want Quick sheathe 🐴
normal mist
QS3 is faster than world and a bit slower than rise
normal mist
Failing TCS will be harder now
vale lantern
gs faster?:O
normal mist
Focus mode lets you:
- literally not fail it;
- you move greater distances between charges.
vale lantern
ohh
hidden torrent
will we need to have the campaign shit fully completed to continue to undermine tomorrow? or is it just the main campaign we did while leveling? anyone know for sure?
forest garden
Honestly my main concern was the tier bonus working
nova kelp
What's there to doom about? nothing changed lol
I'm still going to be annoyed about the way that DS Mark works but it is what it is
nova aspen
What's there to doom about? nothing changed lol
idk
i heard we simmed equal to tanks
but i guess tuning will fix that
oblique flare
Outlaw becoming a tank spec confirmed?
spice surge
The prot warrior sim is kinda fake
They cant spend literally all of their rage on offensive abilities in actual content
They have to use some defensively, which lowers their damage quite a bit
nova aspen
thats good
spice surge
So the sim isnt wrong, its just not realistic for any hard content
haughty flicker
me when i go double prot and play one as glad stance
nova aspen
inb4 u can 1 tank one of the bosses
and the other prot warr just full offensive
beats me
clear oar
Are m0 going to be available tomorrow?
tawdry root
I heard m0 comes out in March not tomorrow
nova aspen
i dunno if that is true anymore whisp, i hear all seasonal gear is available at season 2
dapper cradle
Cursed emoji damn
spice spire
Yes
sinful temple
!wa
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drifting cloud
CAN BLIZZARD
sir its been like this since .. bfa?
balmy condor
sir its been like this since .. bfa?
bro fuck off they redid all the track nonsense who knows what they're doing aynmore
drifting cloud
its the dead week where you can still get CE and some m+ achievs
balmy condor
gear is cooked in this game
balmy condor
they can rework gear ilvl and drops 57 times but can't think of something more interesting than 4 stats
haughty flicker
wish granted, hit rating is back
nova kelp
hey if it gets us to the point where we can eradicate parries? I'll take it
hollow river
nova kelp
bring back reforging while you're at it
brazen cypress
<a:feelsugly:694426337254834207>
that being 636 ilvl or going by season 1 ilvl?
balmy condor
well if it's not available it's not available
but when it is, it'll be 636
so I guess not this week
brazen cypress
aww
subtle kiln
Eradicate parries with Trickster 
I hear they don’t use kingsbane either #whatnumberweat?
coral arrow
!fuu
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runic hinge
hey if it gets us to the point where we can eradicate parries? I'll take it
That’s expertise
hardy rapids
Just want to confirm, I know they're pinned and I've already read the pinned but there are 0 changes talent wise for the patch tomorrow or for s2? just asking to be 100% clear
balmy condor
yes
tawdry halo
Just want to confirm, I know they're pinned and I've already read the pinned but...
no changes
hardy rapids
thank you
serene mason
@balmy condor watching your video right now. I saw someone did a comment in german and you answered in German. I thought you are from the US.
balmy condor
I am
marsh citrus
Why does Hekili recommend Fan of Knives periodically on single target? Is it just for the Clear the Witness hero talent?
indigo mulch
Sprichst du fließend Deutsch whispyr? 😮
balmy condor
jo
balmy condor
mein ganzes leben lang schon
indigo mulch
lmao
haughty flicker
i thought everyone knew like 80% of this channel speaks german
indigo mulch
I'm only an german immigrant i only speak okayish german lmao
balmy condor
sorry i didnt expect that
yeh if you don't hang around here or like follow me a lot it's only expected that you wouldn't know
serene mason
yeh if you don't hang around here or like follow me a lot it's only expected tha...
caught me
balmy condor
my dad's from stuttgart, my mom from graz
fringe spear
indigo mulch
Most muricans only speak english to be fair.
balmy condor
I grew up learning and speaking german, went to a german school and all that
so I'm fluent
I don't type in german a lot to be fair
so it's a bit more shakey
serene mason
But you never had the german experience? 😦
balmy condor
but like, is what it is
balmy condor
But you never had the german experience? 😦
I visit my grandparents every year for a month
indigo mulch
Spelling german is horrible. It took me a year to understand das der and die ._.
serene mason
Hearing german is also horrible for others 😄
indigo mulch
Even though I'm Swedish and the language is quite similar. German gramar is horrible 😐
balmy condor
Spelling german is horrible. It took me a year to understand das der and die ._.
mir und mich verwechsel ich nicht, das kommt bei mich nicht vor
indigo mulch
serene mason
Whats the most funny german word you know? @balmy condor
indigo mulch
Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz
tawdry halo
assassination channel now the german enthusiast channel
indigo mulch
Yes sir.
tawdry halo
based timeline
balmy condor
always has been mate
indigo mulch
We've taken it over.
haughty flicker
Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz
big Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch energy
serene mason
sorry dont want to take this channel hostage
indigo mulch
big Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch energy
Thats welsh isen't it?
serene mason
but i was really surprised 😄
tawdry halo
sorry dont want to take this channel hostage
if we're hostages, we have stockholm syndrome
haughty flicker
Thats welsh isen't it?
a town in wales yeah
indigo mulch
haughty flicker
imagine fitting that on an envelope
potent dawn
a town in wales yeah
The clips of the weather guy doing the local for this place is always a vibe
balmy condor
but i was really surprised 😄
I was reciting erlkönig just yesterday before all the other germans screamed at me to stop
indigo mulch
serene mason
erlkönig? who is that?
indigo mulch
It takes 3 hours to pronounce this word.
eager condor
is it looking like Ass is going to still be strong or are we doomed to sub?
tawdry halo
Ass will be fine
eager condor
I do like a fine Ass so good
tawdry halo
just like mine
eager condor
zing
tawdry halo
indigo mulch
I mean we still have to wait for tuning D:
indigo mulch
Then don't.
tawdry halo
if you dont do content where it matters, dont learn sub
serene mason
is this kinda a legendary german wow player?
balmy condor
erlkönig? who is that? <:PogO:1160145144872435792>
wer reitet so spät durch nacht und wind? es ist der vater mit seinem king. er hat den knaben wohl in dem arm, er fasst ihn sicher, er hält ihn warm
no?
shubert?
indigo mulch
if you don't play in a top50 guild i don't really think it matters if you play sin instead of sub lmao
balmy condor
goethe?
potent dawn
I just dont really want to learn sub..
IF your not top 10 it wont matter
eager condor
good to hear, got CE this tier..but def not anywhere near the top LOL
potent dawn
You can kill it with either the spec wont stop you
balmy condor
indigo mulch
<:PogO:1160145144872435792> wer reitet so spät durch nacht und wind? es ist der ...
What are these sentences? O_o
balmy condor
What are these sentences? O_o
a poem every german has PTSD memorized in grade school
winged sun
I love whispyr
indigo mulch
Rip my daughter.
serene mason
a poem every german has PTSD memorized in grade school
not sure if they still do this? but yeah back in the days.
Also Zauberlehrling
indigo mulch
Whispyr is old af.
indigo mulch
serene mason
Hat der alte Hexenmeister
Sich doch einmal wegbegeben!
Und nun sollen seine Geister
Auch nach meinem Willen leben.
Seine Wort’ und Werke
Merkt’ ich und den Brauch,
Und mit Geistesstärke
Tu’ ich Wunder auch.
balmy condor
serene mason
Maybe i should post it in warlock discord 
indigo mulch
tawdry halo
Maybe i should post it in warlock discord <:KEKLeo:782810047058411540>
place is a full of doom
serene mason
but back to assa... why cant they just change the spell which will apply deathstalker mark... Thats the only thing which frustrated me over and over again at fights like Court/Queen.(queen was really bad).
I mean sub is allowed to apply it with Shadowstrike.
serene mason
I mean the parry rate from kingsbane is kinda not the same like other spells 😄
potent dawn
Yea should be a player buff...... or else there is a chance you just get hard F'd by an intermission
balmy condor
yeh kb can parry
indigo mulch
I think rogue is one of the only classes that has our 2min cd as something you put on an enemy. Most 2min cds are self buffs
main blaze
Yeah like me for the 300th time forgetting to pay attention to mark while ansurek starts dangling on the ceiling -_-
balmy condor
I think rogue is one of the only classes that has our 2min cd as something you p...
that's been a great boon to us in the past
serene mason
yeh kb can parry
"can"? For me it was more like... kingsbane will parry if you are not exactly behind the spider feets. Also Bloodhound parried, Ovinax parried.
hahaha
But maybe it feels harder because it will hit you harder 😄
haughty flicker
just play trickster
balmy condor
true
indigo mulch
KB parry happens like once every 50 pulls or something 😐
tawdry halo
trickster BiS hero talent for assa
runic hinge
Yea should be a player buff...... or else there is a chance you just get hard F'...
Good profile pic. 
serene mason
trickster BiS hero talent for assa <:kekdog:907207037757296710>
they mean i should go to sublety channel and play trickster i guess
hearty seal
ngl I'm not sure why raid bosses still have parries
winged sun
trickster BiS hero talent for assa <:kekdog:907207037757296710>
Deathstalker kinda op for outlaw on ptr
serene mason
I´m the only rogue in my guild rn... there is no "recruit a second one"
haughty flicker
i think i am the second rogue though
potent dawn
Good profile pic. <a:OHyes:1172234808269754369>
Thank you. Its a painful one this year but as a Bruins/Sox fan im used to pain
serene mason
im a black widow rogue... i eat my rogue buddys to be the only one
hearty seal
wait
Trickster prevents you from being parried by the target
Sub has Trickster
Sub also has the last mech in the game that wants you to be behind the target anyways
shy heron
who plays trickster
I was gonna say fazed bug is still around right?
tawdry halo
im a black widow rogue... i eat my rogue buddys to be the only one
no wonder we're the second least popular class
balmy condor
I was gonna say fazed bug is still around right?
ye
serene mason
I remember a bug list for all 3 specs. Does it still exist whispyr?
balmy condor
no
balmy condor
there's a github list, it's not updated
bug lists are only really useful for like new expac betas
tawdry halo
the sub channel keeps one ongoing for sub only i think?
balmy condor
cause like right now there's not that many
assa has basically no bugs aside from the tier set being weird
you could count that as a bug
serene mason
assa has basically no bugs aside from the tier set being weird
is it still the thing that every rupture can drop the stacks and also every tick of it?
tawdry halo
no
balmy condor
not sin only
?
tawdry halo
is it still the thing that every rupture can drop the stacks and also every tick...
that was fixed 2 weeks ago
tawdry halo
maybe 3
balmy condor
recuperator
yeah they fixed that months ago mate
carmine fable
Whispyr Sama is sub better than assa for s2?
haughty flicker
no shot
balmy condor
Whispyr Sama is sub better than assa for s2?
sure if you want
haughty flicker
i missed the one fix i was waiting for this whole time
runic hinge
Maybe .5 patch
subtle kiln
.7
runic hinge
It’s been so long since anything happened
carmine fable
sure if you want
If im forced to reroll from outlaw i'd like to reroll to a spec that get easy invites on pugs xd
balmy condor
then play mage
subtle kiln
Mage or Shaman
carmine fable
Spec not class
serene mason
or warrior 
potent dawn
Spec not class
Fire
tawdry halo
fire mage
balmy condor
doesn't matter what spec you play lmao
tawdry halo
ride the tierlist pre-tuning hype of fire mage into the patch
balmy condor
you think pugs give a shit if you're yellow1 or yellow2?
subtle kiln
rogue is rogue. Not exactly wanted unless pumping and everyone suddenly plays rogue
serene mason
@carmine fable i guess by fight design, at early stages, sub will be more easy because the ability to target swap easier? Like this
carmine fable
doesn't matter what spec you play lmao
So you don't think assa brings awesome pug value with iron wire 5 sec silence?
balmy condor
no
serene mason
ah you mean for m+ lol
balmy condor
most mfers don't even run it these days with pala tanks
potent dawn
So you don't think assa brings awesome pug value with iron wire 5 sec silence?
The silence is a joke at this point
haughty flicker
once everyone is playing prot war we go iw
potent dawn
Yea the meta means it is outpaced by other specs/classes
serene mason
i mean if you bring a prot pala... kidneyshot and kick is also "not good"
carmine fable
Yea the meta means it is outpaced by other specs/classes
Can you please explain this?
potent dawn
Can you please explain this?
Prot paladin brings more util that accomplishes more with less pre-recs
carmine fable
Im not going to be picked by pugs no matter wich fucking spec i pick??
subtle kiln
3 options as rogue in m+.
Bitch about target cap.
Bitch about not doing any ST damage.
Bitch about how krangled the CD alignment can be.
Pick your poison.
soft surge
st dmg
carmine fable
3 options as rogue in m+.
Bitch about target cap.
Bitch about not doing any ST ...
Im more like a bitch about target cap but i was going to give assa a try due to iron wire
soft surge
our aoe now atleast can put u at highest overall dmg
subtle kiln
You should try it anyways
tawdry halo
Im more like a bitch about target cap but i was going to give assa a try due to ...
if you run without a pally tank its useful, but noone really picks rogue for it
balmy condor
Im more like a bitch about target cap but i was going to give assa a try due to ...
run arterial precision and then complain about target cap anyway
median roost
!fuu
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soft surge
what is the build
soft surge
i want to see the talents
balmy condor
yeh bro just played a bleed build man
I've been having that shit in the guide for years
and everyone hated me for it
but I am now vindicated
god bless
indigo mulch
No i would hate you too for it, but like wont your ST be trash tier with that? D:
umbral sierra
S2 start im only 620 ilvl that enough to go into m+ to start?
soft surge
i run it in gb
tawdry halo
No i would hate you too for it, but like wont your ST be trash tier with that? D...
already is, no?
balmy condor
your ST is trash tier regardless of what you do
tawdry halo
potent dawn
but I am now vindicated
umbral sierra
I refuse to do delves and farm heroics again
haughty flicker
your st is ass anyway might as well demise max
indigo mulch
soft surge
true
hearty seal
I refuse to do delves and farm heroics again
isn't m+0 available before S2?
balmy condor
you just cosplay as boomkin
balmy condor
isn't m+0 available before S2?
I was told no earlier
tawdry halo
isn't m+0 available before S2?
i think they start with season 2
indigo mulch
Isen't m0 available but iwth a weeks lockout? D:
hearty seal
🤔
balmy condor
Isen't m0 available but iwth a weeks lockout? D:
yes
hearty seal
yeah that's what I expected
balmy condor
but only after s2 launches
indigo mulch
-_-"
soft surge
is it this build ?
indigo mulch
I guess i wont be gearing an an alt for that then
runic hinge
Bleed build is goated
balmy condor
yeh I think if you go into m0 tomorrow it's the old ilvls
and the ilvls dont update until season
next week basically just story week
insanely weird but is what it is
haughty flicker
As long as I get my car idc about ilvl
tawdry halo
John Blizzard needs to take his kids to disneyland or something
haughty flicker
Actually I’m trailing for a guild so I kind of do care about ilvl
umbral sierra
next week basically just story week
Gross
runic hinge
I love story week
haughty flicker
But the car is cool too
slate crown
As long as I get my car idc about ilvl
Ping me when they expand the functionality to other ground mounts 
umbral sierra
Anyway to skip the story?
slate crown
I want to be able to DRIVE my bear
haughty flicker
Ping me when they expand the functionality to other ground mounts <:RHsleepy:876...
God I hope so
tawdry halo
Anyway to skip the story?
yeah, probably for alts
haughty flicker
Can’t wait to drift my tiger through orgrimmar
runic hinge
I want to be able to DRIVE my bear
Is this a euphemism
umbral sierra
yeah, probably for alts
Trying to skip it entirly
slate crown
Is this a euphemism
Anything is if you're bold enough.
balmy condor
Trying to skip it entirly
nah
can't do that
you need to unlock the new zone to get to the raid and new dungeon and stuff
0 way to skip that
haughty flicker
Oh I probably should’ve caught up on the .7 storyline
Although maybe that isn’t required
tawdry halo
Oh I probably should’ve caught up on the .7 storyline
ring is good
haughty flicker
I have ring, I need to listen to some people have ptsd about dalaran or something
haughty flicker
Ok good
balmy condor
yeh just main campaign I think
umbral sierra
you need to unlock the new zone to get to the raid and new dungeon and stuff
“Magic transporter appears in middle of city, click portal, profit
haughty flicker
Fuck trauma victims I just want my car
umbral sierra
yeh just main campaign I think
Worried about this bc the toon I did campaign on is on a banned account
haughty flicker
Lmao
balmy condor
that's always a good sign
balmy condor
gz
dapper cradle
is there a tierlist for the new zones?
and is there a delve tierlist?
and is there a new world event tierlist?
balmy condor
god I hope so
dapper cradle
i can't think for myself and I need tierlists
balmy condor
need a campaign quest tier list
wise gull
last pull of the night
dapper cradle
last pull of the night
this is the kill
wise gull
it was the kill
indigo mulch
I was looking through the patchnotes for each class, I don't think i ever seen a class get this small amount of attention on a major patch in a very long time.
subtle kiln
need a campaign quest tier list
I’ll work on that while we wait for NA beta test to start.
balmy condor
I’ll work on that while we wait for NA beta test to start.
with all the hotfixing after PTR versions got locked for release
how much do you think will be missing
subtle kiln
how much do you think will be missing
I’m expecting the 2 major bug fixes for sub to be missing.
interns gonna intern
dapper cradle
they're probably delaying content for a week for this very reason
sacred arch
does it matter if the other people have the ring for that gem that procs other people rings?
dapper cradle
they know shit is borked
balmy condor
does it matter if the other people have the ring for that gem that procs other p...
a lot of the value from legendary skippers comes from it turning into war queen and proccing other peoples rings
sacred arch
ahh gotcha
indigo mulch
This is kind of insane for a major patch release or i'm i just being a grumpy old man for thinking that?
balmy condor
be like that
hot field
@balmy condor So, regarding the enchants, Auth of R Power got buffed, same with Auth of the Depths, should run one of each or double up?
dapper cradle
imagine not being hyped for the bleedmaxx patch
hot field
Gotcha, thanks!
runic hinge
This is kind of insane for a major patch release or i'm i just being a grumpy ol...
Any buff to shiv is one I take
balmy condor
wowhead is updated as well
haughty flicker
It’s catching on
dapper cradle
Does bleed build take double shiv?
yeah it does
the value of double shiv is omegagiga with arterial
haughty flicker
Gotta take advantage of that target cap
subtle kiln
Do we drop kingsbane?
dapper cradle
Do we drop kingsbane?
that's what some people are doing ye
kush and casual played without KB
balmy condor
Does bleed build take double shiv?
doesn't have to but it is recommended yeah
subtle kiln
What number are we on?
balmy condor
idk which way I want to recommend
haughty flicker
Whichever way leads to fewer people saying “but streamer uses this build instead”
subtle kiln
no one gonna listen. IO tax
balmy condor
The only question I have is TTB or blindside
blindside probably
runic hinge
Yeah. Procs give dopamine
balmy condor
ttb is funny for aoe dam but it's not really important
haughty flicker
Yeah. Procs give dopamine
Real
balmy condor
I think it's definitely good for aoe though
runic hinge
Taking cold blood and macro’ing it to shiv with ttb?
balmy condor
no lmao
runic hinge
I could tho
haughty flicker