assassination

[tawdry halo]

So sikran and kyveza you can run internal bleeding because caustic does exactly nothing

dungeons you're trolling if you don't run caustic

[static elm]

i see i see

[vivid seal]

is anyone else having issues with deathstalker's mark? sometimes in keys it literally doesnt apply from stealth - happens to me alot of bosses that phase like 2nd boss or siege but it kept happening on non bosses the past couple of keys

[raven egret]

We did it! CE was obtained! WOO!

Sin was fun to play on that boss

lots of fun

[vivid seal]

anyone have any insight on this?

[spice surge]

You are probably right clicking the mob so you end up auto attacking before you have time to ambush, if i had to guess

[ionic crater]

On Broodtwister, should I be simming purely single target or hectic add cleave or??

[balmy condor]

single target

hectic add cleave is never relevant

[daring hamlet]

does assa have a way to get out of every root? I thought it was just vanish and cloak

[static glacier]

nah

[spice surge]

No but it doesnt really matter

[static glacier]

you will need 1 external

[spice surge]

The roots do not have much health

[static glacier]

^

if you just stand in the boss's hitbox root dies quick

[ionic crater]

Thanks

[mighty vine]

green parsed on queen but she dead so who cares

[honest ether]

Anyone have a kill vid of blue side assas rogue on silken?

[dawn seal]

I know I should sim and this question is stupid but I remember whispyr telling me contract is st trinket

[subtle tundra]

it is and its not very good

[dawn seal]

should I run mercurial egg and skardyn on ovinax or contract and skardyn

[subtle tundra]

egg

[dawn seal]

cuz I recently got it on mythic

hero egg and myth contract

oka

[subtle tundra]

wont matter much

[dawn seal]

++

do u care about the distribution of the egg

[subtle tundra]

i dont like runny eggs

so yeah

[dawn seal]

hm

I should start tracking the egg

[subtle tundra]

should you?

i know one of the top players in the world that doesnt care about tracking it. for mdi and tgp and pushing world first keys

[dawn seal]

oh

[subtle tundra]

him misplaying is more dps lost

[dawn seal]

I usually just never look at the egg

I guess I ll just keep doin that

[lavish geyser]

Is is recommended to have a mouseover rupture macro, for m+?

[golden loom]

!carnage

[prisma monolith]

Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

• The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
• You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

[golden loom]

I personally just have garotte/rupture as mouseovers cause I mean you can still use them normally

so might aswell have the option to mouseover

[lavish geyser]

Yeah

And would you wanna delay the deathmark, and kingsbane window, for spreading bleeds, or just spread the bleed after the cds are popped?

[golden loom]

you start with spreading all your bleeds

then go use cooldowns on a prio target to caustic spatter from that guy and do big damage

you need your bleeds out to get energy + agility from scent of blood

[lavish geyser]

Ok i see. And i have actually only been using garrote twice, i assume that was a pretty big mistake

[runic hinge]

Not if there’s only 5 mobs!

[lavish geyser]

Well yeah, but like for big pulls

[golden loom]

usually you garrote 2x rupture 2x, get CT up and then can garrote any remaining ungarotted targets while carnage is still active

crimson tempest is super important to have rolling, its big fucking damage

[lavish geyser]

Wouldnt that be all of carnage? Depending on build

I always have ct up

[golden loom]

well I always run double vanish so I have subterfuge for 12 sec carnage

so you have a lot of globals

[subtle tundra]

garrote does a lot of dam when used with IC

[lavish geyser]

But it looks like for no wat build you just do, 2x garrote 2x grupture and then a garrote

[subtle tundra]

its not a bad gcd

[lavish geyser]

But do you wanna spread ruptures on all targets?

Lets say a nw first pull

[golden loom]

all you really care about is 5 ruptures pretty much

garotte does more damage from IC

cause you can also spend those combo points on other stuff

[subtle tundra]

no, you need to get into caustic asap

caustic is way too much dmg

[lavish geyser]

When you would you want to spread extra ruptures then?

[subtle tundra]

esp since mobs die before rupture falls off in that pull

when spattering isnt optimal, so when things are gathering

or youre chaining

soon

any time mobs arent stacked

[lavish geyser]

Ok i see, but never when mobs are stacked?

[subtle tundra]

yeah spattering is better

sorry but we arent a dot spec

dots are gateway to spattering

[lavish geyser]

Sometimes i open on one pack and then vanish and open on the other. Like in stonevaul pull after 1st boss

[subtle tundra]

that seems a waste of vanish

you can easily dot in both packs

[lavish geyser]

Wym waste? I dont play a vanish build if that is your concern

[subtle tundra]

cause you can achieve the same result without vanishing

and have vanish for the next pull

to use for redotting

not initial dotting

[lavish geyser]

Why would i need vanish for the next pull, if i dont need it to acheive the same thing

I see

[subtle tundra]

on the pull you said you use vanish, you just wait 2-3 seconds for mobs to get closer so you can dot one pack and then go on the other

especially since you have to ambush first gcd anyways

on the aoe guy

[lavish geyser]

But it would take alot of time to spread dots on 5 targets, right? Without ic

[subtle tundra]

huh?

youre in stealth

after boss

what

[lavish geyser]

Yeah you said i shouldnt vanish, and i shoulndt bother spreading dots manually anyways, only when gathering. But i gotta do that, after the pack gathers, cause i dont need to vanish

[subtle tundra]

yeah i dont get what youre saying

you just dot

[lavish geyser]

I would just use stealth and open on the one pack, restealth and and open on the other. That is it.

[subtle tundra]

no you wouldnt cause you wait 2 seconds to move closer to the next pack

or maybe you have a fucked up tank pug

that cant do the pull

properly

[lavish geyser]

So i dont spread dots when tank is gathering

[subtle tundra]

so this conversation is pointless

because im talking about a basic ass pull gathering that i expect from any decent tank

[lavish geyser]

oh yeah, it was just more abt spreading the dots thing. Like gettting extra garrotes and ruptures out, that i was curious abt

[subtle tundra]

in that pull you press 2 ruptures 2 garrotes from stealth in total

and the pack should die before ruptures run out

you can dot both packs from 1 IC

[lavish geyser]

Yea, but not all of em, right?

[subtle tundra]

no cause its bad

for dps

[lavish geyser]

Huh, ok. So when is it ever good to spread on extra targets?

Only when chaining?

[subtle tundra]

you can probably garrote all of them

but i dont cause it would require swapping targets

and i cant be arsed

like first pull stonevault

you dot as much as you can

until 2nd golem is stacked

[lavish geyser]

feel like that gathers pretty quick though

[subtle tundra]

theres scenarios

like arakara

[lavish geyser]

Havent gone all the way yet actually. Im a 14 gamer rn 😦

Havent had the time to go higher

Sadly

[subtle tundra]

on first pull?

you dont want to dot a lot anyways you want to go on mini boss asap

cause if you do ruptures they are gonna go on small mobs

so they are wasted

[lavish geyser]

Nono like +14s so i havent done the biig pull on stonevaul, only the smaller one

[subtle tundra]

oh

well yeah in that case you still want to do 2 ruptures and go spatter

[lavish geyser]

Yeah im not a gamer rn haha

[subtle tundra]

not a lot of times youd do many ruptures

they just dont do much

[lavish geyser]

Only when its obvious i suppose. Like ara

[runic bane]

!sob

!siege

[subtle tundra]

what information are you seeking

i am the all knowing(misinformator)

[dawn seal]

!arakara

!varas

!knowingall

man the command that summons varas and tells me to get better is not working

[royal lantern]

@subtle tundra meow

thats the command

[subtle tundra]

meow

[dawn seal]

oo

mbmb

[past basin]

hey is there any dmg inc on your envenoms in cds?

except for tea

[subtle tundra]

theres more lethal dose stacks

[past basin]

and trinket

[subtle tundra]

theres more energy so you can get more envenoms

youre in shiv

[past basin]

shiv as well ok

but kb and dm itself they dont give

[subtle tundra]

lethal dose

so they do give, just indirectly

[past basin]

nature damage over time it says

[subtle tundra]

yes

[past basin]

isnt envenom instant nature dmg

[subtle tundra]

your weapon poisons

but im not sure?

should be envenom

aswell

[past basin]

should it?

[subtle tundra]

its world of warcraft

[past basin]

wording seems like it should defo not

unless envenom has a dot effect that i dont know of

[subtle tundra]

well wording is not reliable in wow

[dawn seal]

yes

it is not

[past basin]

okay so you lied varas

im gonna have to spank you

[subtle tundra]

?

what

[past basin]

what?

xddxd

[subtle tundra]

i dont trust anyones word but whispyr on this

[past basin]

nah jk but so the wording isnt reliable

and LD works on envenoms?

[subtle tundra]

i just assumed so

[past basin]

is what whysprpr said

well whatever im just at my wits end on why im not doing as much dmg

[subtle tundra]

it makes sense

[past basin]

i have watched my vod

i have went through logs

and i cant figure it out

[subtle tundra]

well you have vods and logs

[dawn seal]

this means wording is not reliable on wow

I agreed with varas he is probably correct I would trust varas

[past basin]

yeah would be nice if i actually could figure shit out

[subtle tundra]

well, link them

[dawn seal]

what difference would make

if it did or didnt

btw

what would it change in rotation

rn

[past basin]

idk mn

nothing

but at this point its like

l m a o x d

you feel me

[dawn seal]

if u gonna do the same thing regardless of the answer

[past basin]

yep

[dawn seal]

🤔

[past basin]

i just started playing agaen so i mean i felt that i was rusty at the beggining

[dawn seal]

so many people typing

[rotund oak]

oh ild link you

[dawn seal]

scared

[golden loom]

I mean there are other things that could affect envenom damage during deathmark, for example supercharger when you shiv

[past basin]

w8 ill link

shit on me mybe im just delusional

but i feel up to the point where i die here on this kill pull

[subtle tundra]

jsdfaoisj dfuewugh xzcn iurgi=q ? dsofkko ...

[past basin]

i shouldnt have like 500k less than my 639 counterpart

[dawn seal]

but like

[rotund oak]

damn right 😉

[dawn seal]

thats not about if ld works on envenom or not

get al og drop it let people tell u what u are doing wrong

[past basin]

on the way sire

[golden loom]

if u are 500k less envenom damage than someone else thats nothing

[dawn seal]

I mean if he is following the prio list and like doing good opener etc from wowhead

saying oh does ld include envenom maybe its that

they do amazing log reviews

u wont regret

[subtle tundra]

remember that guy from yesterday saying he was doing everything from the guide

refusing to believe he was not

[dawn seal]

https://tenor.com/view/aintnoway-gif-27058877

[past basin]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2373275769 45:15
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LD4bHdW2zjvBakGx?fight=35

[dawn seal]

I amma check this

[past basin]

for the record this is my 10th pull in total on this boss and first hard boss since fyrakk ive played basically

KEEPING THAT ON THE RECORD

[dawn seal]

hmm

[subtle tundra]

ok opener is good !

[past basin]

but im just curious about the part till 4:02

where i die

i mean the pull was actually kinda sick would watch until the end

[dawn seal]

I mean its 88

[past basin]

since the tanks were dead a long time

[dawn seal]

its really good

[past basin]

no im tuber

not jinzan

[dawn seal]

oh

[past basin]

yeah

oh..

[dawn seal]

wait

@subtle tundra he is tuber

[past basin]

xd

[subtle tundra]

i know he is tuber

[dawn seal]

oh

[subtle tundra]

ofc he is tuber

[dawn seal]

mbmb

man u are so good at this

[subtle tundra]

he wouldnt be the other guy doing well

[past basin]

hahahah

[dawn seal]

I am gonna be like varas one day

[subtle tundra]

you have some points where you dont do a lot of button presses

[dawn seal]

I think

I know why

he uses cloak on intermission

[subtle tundra]

like here

why are you barely pressing buttons

panic ofc

but thats big dps

[past basin]

thats the first IM or the end of it ye?

[dawn seal]

first one

end of it

[past basin]

low on energy

[dawn seal]

almost

[subtle tundra]

i cant believe you have low energy

in raid st...

[past basin]

check le vod

might be i need more haste

thats the first thing i was thinking

[subtle tundra]

no

[dawn seal]

no

[past basin]

ok

[subtle tundra]

i play 3% haste

in raid

[past basin]

!haste

[blazing pumice]

!DESIGN

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[past basin]

ok

i feel like ive played for env

uptime

thats why i wasnt clicking that much

i feel like?

[blazing pumice]

CLICKING

ALERT

CALL 000

[past basin]

hahahahahah

[blazing pumice]

911

[past basin]

technically

i do it with my mouse

my main rota is on my mouse

side buttons

[subtle tundra]

in the opener you used 2nd shiv too early and last tick of kb wasnt in it

[golden loom]

thats some psycho shit

[past basin]

its dathea i wanted to fully dps while holding w and d

as outlaw

[dawn seal]

https://tenor.com/view/aintnoway-gif-27058877

[past basin]

okay cool

i really did didnt i

i mean it was 1 cp for darkest night

and i saw it was about to go to 8 sec

unlucky

i can see it now its like

not even half a global off unlucko

[golden loom]

just ask varas what he thinks about mutilating on 6cp

[past basin]

i think its a scam

id rather do fok

for that 1 cp

35 energy

[golden loom]

well thats bad

or it doesnt really matter

[past basin]

vs 50

[dawn seal]

u would multilate regardless wouldnt u

[golden loom]

but just mutilate

[subtle tundra]

your feelcraft

isnt better

than mutilating

fok damage is bad

[dawn seal]

boyx is killing it today

[subtle tundra]

for 15 energy or whatever

[past basin]

is it tho like ive checked on the dummy i lose like 30k dmg aprox i feel like

on that button press

for 15 energy

i guess it might not be good

sure ill press mutilate

[dawn seal]

[past basin]

sure sure okok

i wont feelcraft

[golden loom]

I mean both feel shit to press

garrote in pandemic tho for that 7th point

[past basin]

++++

will agree with that

[subtle tundra]

your gameplay is plenty fine

[past basin]

anything big then that you guys notice

okay i mean

i thought i was delusional

is it just gear diff or what

[subtle tundra]

your gear is bad yeah

[past basin]

idk

[subtle tundra]

youre missing 7 ilvls

[past basin]

i feel like the ring just boosts your ilvl a lot

and you get compared to

ppl that had 634

with a normal ring

or nah?

[golden loom]

compared in what sense

[subtle tundra]

whats your dmg increase buff

[runic hinge]

69%

[dawn seal]

question about assa rogue do we really have a prio list

[subtle tundra]

did you get it

[dawn seal]

isnt like more set of rules u do

[past basin]

haha what no i didnt sorry

what dmg buff

[subtle tundra]

hmmmm..........

[dawn seal]

nerubar finery

[subtle tundra]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[golden loom]

the 18% buff from doing raid

[past basin]

huh?

[golden loom]

if u are on mythic kyveza without a single buff I am jumping out of my window

[subtle tundra]

yeah.......

[past basin]

ur joking or what

[subtle tundra]

i wonder if that could be the reason youre doing no dmg

[past basin]

bro i wasnt playing the game

[dawn seal]

u kill bosses, u get finery every turnin makes it go up by %2 ish

maximum is %18

[past basin]

i thought

that shit

is for TMOG

OR SMTHING

OMFG

[golden loom]

its 18% damage and healing and DR AND BITCHES

[subtle tundra]

to be fair theres like no way id find out about it

if i didnt know from news

[past basin]

oh my fucking god

jesus fuck thank lord

i knew i was pressing shit correctly

[subtle tundra]

[past basin]

and i wa slike

[golden loom]

I mean the quest hand in guy is litearlly at the entrance of the raid

[subtle tundra]

[past basin]

how can i only get like

purple logs

on hc

?!?!?!?!

[golden loom]

hard to miss unless u get summoned

[subtle tundra]

i do get summoned

90% of the time

[past basin]

guys u just cured my depression

[golden loom]

some of us are not VIP and have to clear trash

[past basin]

i mean i told you started playing 2 weeks ago

[subtle tundra]

detective varas on the job

[past basin]

thank you so fucking much

[subtle tundra]

well youre raiding mythic

[golden loom]

check in currency how many fineries u have @past basin

[subtle tundra]

uhh

[past basin]

im not home atm

but a lot

[subtle tundra]

theres some expectation

[past basin]

i mean idk if its a lot

[golden loom]

you need 16 per hand in, but there is catchup, so u can just run LFR if nothing else

[past basin]

how many do i need for max buff

[golden loom]

its 16 per 2.5%

[past basin]

and you get like 2 per boss?

[subtle tundra]

2.25%

[subtle tundra]

nah a lot more

[golden loom]

2.25 yeah sorry, and no u get more due to catch up

[subtle tundra]

you can get them on alts too

[golden loom]

like u probably get 16 per boss at this point if not more

on any char in any difficulty

[dawn seal]

deliver them 8-9 times

[past basin]

well idk i did like hc for 2 or mybe even 3 weeks was it now

[subtle tundra]

so yeah ilvl + 18% dmg buff is gonna make you strong

[dawn seal]

u can do em on alts

[past basin]

did 2 weeks of 4 and 5 mythic bosses

[dawn seal]

varas

[past basin]

ok will do

have an enha alt

[dawn seal]

can u tell me why I suck as well

[golden loom]

skill issue

[dawn seal]

if I drop u a log

yes

obv

skill issue

[subtle tundra]

cause youre trying to minmax a trinket instead of your buttons

[dawn seal]

no

[subtle tundra]

👽

[dawn seal]

I am not using that

[golden loom]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-cat-dance-cat-cat-meme-chinese-cat-gif-9387428225432230256

[dawn seal]

I died

but before I died

I was getting shit on by the other assa rogue

[golden loom]

proc harder

[dawn seal]

cuz I had better gear

so it must be my skill isue

[subtle tundra]

always is

[dawn seal]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/jnwbfDYmkKT6R21J?fight=5&type=damage-done&source=9

[past basin]

also go watch the end of that vod ive sent its fun

[golden loom]

?? @dawn seal

[past basin]

w8 did i already type this

[golden loom]

u just shived without kingsbaning

[past basin]

idk man my brain is going bazonga right now

you do that end of fight no?

[golden loom]

its the middle of the fight

[past basin]

idk if its end of fight

[golden loom]

and he kingsbanes 15 seconds later

so u only have 1 shiv for it

[past basin]

i mean

[dawn seal]

oh

[past basin]

feelcrafting

[subtle tundra]

guys why am i doing no damage

[past basin]

xdxd

[dawn seal]

thats the mountain around 1.35

[dawn seal]

okay okay

I BE HONEST

[golden loom]

so even if you live until next deathmark, you would have to wait for kingsbane

[dawn seal]

I was surrounded by dagger

[subtle tundra]

20 seconds on no buttons pressed why am i doing bad guys

guys

hlep.

[dawn seal]

okay okay

WAIT WAIT

daggers come out yeah

tank pulls it to narnia

and there are daggerrs between

orbs flying

what do I do

[subtle tundra]

you dodge and do your dps

[dawn seal]

👀

[past basin]

u press sprint

run circles

[dawn seal]

noted

[past basin]

around outside edge

so its safer 🦺

[golden loom]

shadowstep do some matrix type shii

[subtle tundra]

also its not 20 seconds of daggres

its 5 seconds

you did no dps for 20

[dawn seal]

oh

wtf

I was doing

I am braindead

its bloodbound all over again

https://tenor.com/view/aintnoway-gif-27058877

wtf am I doing here

this is his dm

and me afking or somefin

🤔

ohh it might be cuz I was dead or somefin

[subtle tundra]

well you dont have dm

at that point

[dawn seal]

some desync

ye

[balmy condor]

desync?>

on kyveza?

how is that possible

[subtle tundra]

he died buddy

[dawn seal]

omg

[balmy condor]

oh

[golden loom]

and the other rogue in your raid is throwing knives during kingsbane

[balmy condor]

20 seconds of afk into dead

sweet

[dawn seal]

NO WAY

[subtle tundra]

holy cock

[dawn seal]

I AM LOSING TO HIM

MAN

[subtle tundra]

i got cancer from that screenshot

thanks

pay for chemo

[golden loom]

hang that picture in the louvre

[balmy condor]

kb into shiv is incredible tech

[subtle tundra]

into crimson vial into throw knife

[balmy condor]

feint vial knife

banger

[dawn seal]

[balmy condor]

BANGER

[golden loom]

incredible

[past basin]

my boy is doing alchemy not assassination rogue

[balmy condor]

dude that second shiv

[golden loom]

that guy is top dps of the raid

[dawn seal]

aint no way

[balmy condor]

doesn't even cover the kb

[dawn seal]

I was losing to this guy

[golden loom]

no you werent losing

the entire raid was

[balmy condor]

cooked

[past basin]

at least u wasnt losing

to nerubar finery

[balmy condor]

wtf is this raid man

[dawn seal]

lmao

I died for whole 1 min

and afked more

and I was 5th dps or some shit

across 14

is wild

to me

[balmy condor]

the fact that this is able to kill kyveza is honestly insane

[dawn seal]

it was a pug or somethin

in my defense

[golden loom]

my goat

[subtle tundra]

mythic raid is a joke this tier holy

[dawn seal]

monk rolls in to my face every intermission from across the room

[subtle tundra]

EIGHT CASTS?

[past basin]

aintnoway

[dawn seal]

I am gonna ask this

is it a dps loss to use poisoned knife

fr

[balmy condor]

yes lmao

[past basin]

ask him to go ranged assa next raid

[dawn seal]

lmao

[balmy condor]

it's fully a waste of energy

[dawn seal]

KEK

[balmy condor]

it does no damage and doesn't give you shit for cp

[subtle tundra]

it can crit and give 2 cp

bud

[dawn seal]

lmao

[past basin]

ok but whyspyr, listen, fok for last cp?

[balmy condor]

it's basically the same energy as mut for half the cp and 1/11th of the damage

[balmy condor]

no shot he's also doing that

[dawn seal]

KEK

[past basin]

i would never

[dawn seal]

lmao

HE DOESNT KNOW

[golden loom]

no thats Lmao's cook

[subtle tundra]

b-but

[dawn seal]

[past basin]

i mean 15 energy for 30k dmg

[winged sun]

I know him

[past basin]

bbbut

[winged sun]

I raided with him

[dawn seal]

who

[past basin]

zeross

[balmy condor]

I'm gonna kms

[winged sun]

He 100% would do it

[past basin]

ZEROSS

[winged sun]

[past basin]

I DIDNDT

HAVE

[dawn seal]

lmao

[past basin]

FINNERY

AND I WAS

PLUCKING MY HAIR

CUZ I JUST STARTED PLAYING AGAIN

[subtle tundra]

imagine if there was other factors when you press a button such as doomblade or poison procs

[winged sun]

Anything extremely cooked u can totally expect out of him

[dawn seal]

lmao

cooked like

[past basin]

like bad but feels good

[dawn seal]

feint into vial into poisoned knife ?

[golden loom]

he was doing the authenthic day 1 experience (NO FINERY) challenge

[balmy condor]

bro I got quint stunlocked man from no finery into that cancer screenshot into fok for cp into zeross showing up

[past basin]

ok im not artistic

[balmy condor]

this channel is fucked

[subtle tundra]

sorry

[golden loom]

what a lovely friday

[subtle tundra]

friday more like

[past basin]

brother usually stuff that sounds like

[subtle tundra]

im drinking tonight

[winged sun]

[past basin]

"nerubar finery"

idk

sounds like some tmogs

[balmy condor]

I should've just wrapped the car around a telephone pole instead of coming back into discord

[past basin]

to me

or nah

didnt bother googling what i was getting

[subtle tundra]

wine it is i cant wait im getting the happy chemicals today

[golden loom]

im doing a sober challenge this weekend

[subtle tundra]

(fail)

[golden loom]

and im sick

lovely combo

[subtle tundra]

you cant be serious

not drinking when sick?

[past basin]

daily dose of poison, cmon man we just doin assassination roleplay

[golden loom]

made the bet before I got sick so now im stuck with it

[subtle tundra]

stay bad

[balmy condor]

this shit ain't poison this is aids

[golden loom]

oh btw I love how we were debating if lethal dose not working on envenom was the reason for your dps, AND NOT THE MISSING 18% DAMAGE

[subtle tundra]

does lethal dose work on envenom?

[past basin]

poison disease

[balmy condor]

varas there is no fucking shot you just asked me that

[past basin]

potato potato

[balmy condor]

after I just said this is aids

[golden loom]

its what started the cancer

[balmy condor]

this has to be a nightmare

[golden loom]

does it work tho we still dont know

[balmy condor]

this isn't real

NO

[past basin]

i asked the question

[balmy condor]

OF COURSE NOT

[subtle tundra]

sorry... you dont want to know what lmaoxd was asking earlier

[past basin]

and i think no

[balmy condor]

YOU FUCKING IMBECILES

[past basin]

OKAY I WAS CORRECT

THANK GOD

[golden loom]

okay see thats why you were missing damage @past basin

[past basin]

IT SAYS DOTS ONLY

thank you

w8 but

[subtle tundra]

mine does work on envenom

idc

[past basin]

HAHAHAH

ok

[subtle tundra]

making my own spec

[earnest remnant]

sometimes im surprised that whispyr hasent banned the lot of u

[past basin]

gaslighting me almost

[subtle tundra]

with my own interactions

[balmy condor]

we gotta do like a library book reading just fucking reading tooltips or some stupid shit like we're in fourth grade holy fuck you dumbfucks I actually can't

[subtle tundra]

we did read it

together

[golden loom]

the problem is if the tooltip is wrong

[past basin]

no i did read it and i was right then these guys were like

[golden loom]

(our theory)

[winged sun]

What u think whispyr is toxic or what

[past basin]

YEAH BUT WOW HAS LIKE WORDING ISSUES

[winged sun]

He ain’t stealthi

[subtle tundra]

IT DOES HAVE WORDING ISSUES

[winged sun]

!!

[past basin]

BUT IF IT SAYS DOT I MEAN THATS A FAR STRETCH from instant dmg

[winged sun]

Whispyr is our savior

[balmy condor]

I've been here legit 10 minutes and I want to choke 4 of you to death

[past basin]

garrote me daddy

what?

[winged sun]

garrote me daddy

[subtle tundra]

slip it in,too, while youre at it

[golden loom]

like this reads like a weapon poison to me

[balmy condor]

STOP

[earnest remnant]

im waaaaaay more lenient than he is lol

[past basin]

ok i need to get back to work, thanks for the turning in finerry tip now imma might do tad bit more dmg

like 18%

thanks boyz ❤️

[subtle tundra]

awesome

[balmy condor]

THEY EVEN REWORDED THE ENTIRE SPEC TO MAKE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN POISON AND WEAPON POISON

STOP

STOP

STOP

[subtle tundra]

not my problem

yours

[storm hedge]

He's gonna put the channel to 1 msg per minute again

[golden loom]

whatever im crying laughing

what a banger

[storm hedge]

And go to sleep

[balmy condor]

the last 15 minutes of this channel has set the spec back 9 years

we are regressing

[subtle tundra]

no

thats good

no spatter no ic

[subtle tundra]

exsanguinate is back

good times

[bronze pike]

5h stun lock inc

ive did the poop

[subtle tundra]

thanks

[balmy condor]

we can never be this stupid again

not allowed

I was gone for legit 2 hours

[earnest remnant]

just wait until assa is meta for another season again

[balmy condor]

how did this happen

[earnest remnant]

the flood gates will open

[golden loom]

https://tenor.com/view/dpgc-dead-pixels-ghost-club-pixel-ghost-hbar-gif-4331536761547409538

[subtle tundra]

nope we cant we've had our once in a lifetime season

[bronze pike]

subs turn'

let them handle the stupids

[subtle tundra]

i just want to go home and play poe :((

[quiet oar]

soon

aka

6 Hours?

[subtle tundra]

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

poe, dexter, wine

[waxen field]

i mean if u're not in range...

[dawn seal]

no ....

I think u can unbind poisoned knife

is what I heard

[balmy condor]

yep

poisoned knife should simply not be on your bars

if you're in a situation where you're out of range, you can dump energy before leaving

if you're off the target and not at max energy, that energy is better spent being banked and used when you're back on the target

if you're off the target and at max energy, the only way it's worth using poisoned knife is if you're still off the target long enough to once again reach max energy

but if that's true, you didn't dump energy in the first place, or you're legit playing wrong

[quiet oar]

So what im hearing, Buff Poisoned Knife?

[bronze pike]

But what if

I want to throw knives

[quiet oar]

you have a fan for this

[balmy condor]

at no point in time should you ever be off the boss for such an egregious amount of time that you can fill up your energy bar to the max, use a poisoned knife, recover the energy you spent, and still be off the boss

that simply should not be happening

[bronze pike]

https://tenor.com/view/muppet-show-muppets-beaker-bananas-knife-gif-11189384354618524376

[dawn seal]

yes I can confirm

Even I did a 50 sec down time on a boss

[red schooner]

Poison knife onto rashanan in dawnbreaker when he's flying between areas though, effective padding

[bronze pike]

But what I want to throw

[dawn seal]

and didnt use poisoned knife

LMAO

[bronze pike]

A single knife

For a artful wound

[quiet oar]

Tell that my Healers, when i stood out 15 seconds with root dispell on ovinax yesterday!

and had no Cloak nor Vanish ready

[dawn seal]

why

dont

get a pre freedom

[waxen field]

when you could mount to hit a mutilate

[dawn seal]

smh

[bronze pike]

Simple use poison knife

To cut the root

6head

[balmy condor]

?????????????????? in what world do you have neither of those

how often is your ass getting rooted

[quiet oar]

Because i got almost every root !?

[red schooner]

Wait is this the tech?

[quiet oar]

and Eggbreak !?

[dawn seal]

freedoms are either assigned to u or and evoker tho no

[quiet oar]

and we 2 healed

tbf

[balmy condor]

wild

[dawn seal]

rogues and evokers are only ones who dont have a self dispell all the time

[balmy condor]

I mean you can't 2 heal and then complain about lack of dispel

[waxen field]

saw kush at some point hitting regular spells on rash by mouting and pressing button in the air

[dawn seal]

everyone can dispells themselves

[quiet oar]

Well i can

[dawn seal]

on that boss

[quiet oar]

in 5 minutes

[dawn seal]

how many rogues and evokers are in ur group

and how many paladins u got

[quiet oar]

1 rogue 1 evoker

[dawn seal]

thats not healing

[waxen field]

5min that's 3 cloak and 3vanish 🤓

[quiet oar]

Cloak for eggbreak

[dawn seal]

I mean if u have at least 2 paladins both u and evoker is never getting webs

if u have 1 naturally u put it on the rogue

cuz u are melee

everyone else can just free themselve

[balmy condor]

sure but even in that case, 15 seconds shouldn't cap you :) with average haste you're looking at 19 energy a second, 15 seconds would be 285 energy, so even if you're not fully bottomed out you wouldn't have enough time to fully cap your energy, use the 40 energy for poisoned knife, and then recover that 40 energy back. You're nearly 100 energy too low to make sure of a poisoned knife. Even if you did manage to find a way to actually get that off, how much is that poisoned knife giving you bud?

it's giving you

[waxen field]

laughig in ansurek

[balmy condor]

jack shit

[quiet oar]

I mean, if i dodnt get all these 3 webs in 2 minutes

[dawn seal]

thats a very spesific

mechanic with a very easy solution

[balmy condor]

poisoned knife is a button to be used in open world

[quiet oar]

I didnt use poison knife tbf

[balmy condor]

if you're doing instanced content, it is a worthless noob trap

which does nothing but waste energy

[subtle tundra]

i have poisoned knife bound!

mouse button 5

[balmy condor]

do you ever press it

[subtle tundra]

yes

to pull mobs in m+

from range

[balmy condor]

why is that your job

[subtle tundra]

cause i got tricks

and tank cant always

[dawn seal]

[balmy condor]

oh yeah that massive poisoned knife tricks aggro

mb mb

[quiet oar]

ah yeah the threat of poisoned knife

[subtle tundra]

its to make the mobs go towards tank

bud

[balmy condor]

oh yeah cause your party is spread 300 yards, gotta go exactly to the tank

mb mb

[subtle tundra]

and no i never said it happens all the time. but there have been cases

[waxen field]

[balmy condor]

you're never on the tank

[subtle tundra]

idk why youre a hater

[balmy condor]

yeh

got it

[subtle tundra]

there is a difference between it going straight to me and having a chance of meleeing me

[dawn seal]

whispyr is that emoji representihng u

[subtle tundra]

and going to tank

but sure

you can keep being mister contrarian

when i gave you a legit case

of usage

[balmy condor]

you can use it for that sure

I'm not saying it's impossible to use it for that

I'm just saying that your expanded logic is a bit stupid

that poisoned knife aggro you transfer to the tank isn't doing shit, the healer aggro alone will rip it off lmao

tank has to hit it anyway

but if you have to pull the mob

sure, throw the dagger

go for it, you have my blessing

that is a usage

[torn dome]

qq: does fok take priority on mutilate even when only 2 targets?

[balmy condor]

if you're talented into CT yes

otherwise its 3

[torn dome]

ty

[dawn heath]

grim batol third boss p1 you tend to throw poison knife on the add if it targets you and u cant attack it

[subtle tundra]

do i?

[dawn heath]

idk i do atleast

[subtle tundra]

yeah i wouldnt

[dawn heath]

why not

[subtle tundra]

cause i can fok just fine

[dawn heath]

i meant when the boss runs away

and you are targeted

very niche situation

[royal lantern]

FoK has a big range

[subtle tundra]

yeah i can fok

[dawn heath]

when u get the second add spawn

i guess u can do that

next season in rookery however

first boss

when bird jumps into the middle

u are gonna want to knife throw

[royal lantern]

fuck no lol

[balmy condor]

you can just fok that can't you

[royal lantern]

^

[dawn heath]

you think that hits?

[subtle tundra]

i love blizzard!

[dawn heath]

i havent tried tbh

[balmy condor]

idk I haven't ran it in forever but I thought you could

[royal lantern]

and like, even if only poison knife could hit it, you would still not use it cus its wasting energy lol

[dawn heath]

the phase is long

u are gonna cap energy

if u dont throw a few

[balmy condor]

yeh phase it forever

[royal lantern]

better having max energy when it comes down again

[balmy condor]

you can at least bank cp during it

that would be a throw knife

but I'm pretty sure you can fok it

idk we'll have to see

or if someone is deranged enough to go check on live in a follower dungeon or something

would be insano cringe if you can't fok

[midnight mist]

they changed that boss lol

[subtle tundra]

o,mrhvk omdkmi dnqq uxhw nuvjenskk

[midnight mist]

you can just hit it

[dawn heath]

oh

[royal lantern]

bless you

[dawn heath]

since when?

[midnight mist]

since

[spice surge]

You could just hit it on beta too

[midnight mist]

day one ptr 11.1

[dawn heath]

well thats pog

[balmy condor]

neat

[subtle tundra]

😼

[midnight mist]

no you couldnt on beta

thats a lie eleem

why you lying

[balmy condor]

yeh def couldn't on beta

[midnight mist]

you couldnt on live either when it released

[balmy condor]

yep

[spice surge]

Maybe i just missremember, but ye you couldnt on hc

[balmy condor]

I remember the tilt during week 1

[midnight mist]

this guy big liar

ban ?

[balmy condor]

on it

[earnest remnant]

its in his nature

he is swedish after all

[balmy condor]

no more swedes

[midnight mist]

make sense

[subtle tundra]

WHO THE FUCK IS A SWEDE

[elder torrent]

not just sweedish he plays Sub trickster
he's just tryna be tricky

[subtle tundra]

[royal lantern]

50% of your raidteam on EU servers

[dawn heath]

i am swedish

[subtle tundra]

there's danes, there's finns, there's swedes

[balmy condor]

sorry to hear that aljan

[subtle tundra]

the bleh brits

[royal lantern]

the "guys up there"

[earnest remnant]

condolences

hope you get cured of that

[dawn heath]

if you compare us to the rest of europe i'm quite contempt with beeing swedish

it could be worse

[subtle tundra]

its ok...

[dawn heath]

like french

[earnest remnant]

french have french tacos

so

they win

[subtle tundra]

zacharie youre getting flamed again

[earnest remnant]

the fuck does sweden bring?

bannana pizza?

yeh rot in hell

[subtle tundra]

swedish tacos

[dawn heath]

ikea

[earnest remnant]

ikea is the worst shit known to mankind

[midnight mist]

Hey

Don't try to steal

[subtle tundra]

im romanian its in my blood

cant do anything about it

[earnest remnant]

fair point

[royal lantern]

we can use that word without getting banned?

[midnight mist]

Whisper they are being racist again

[dawn heath]

the question is can i use that word without saying slurs

[midnight mist]

Ban them all

[dawn heath]

the amount of french people that have assasinated my keys in the past

[balmy condor]

it's just natural

[midnight mist]

i too play the assassination spec

[earnest remnant]

the amount of swedish people that have assassinated decent food

is also unreal

[balmy condor]

poorly apparently, getting capped by a guy that has casual literally in his name

unreal

[midnight mist]

man

i still dont know if im shit at the spec

or if casual is just too good

[earnest remnant]

zac is just a washed up otp

it is what it is

[midnight mist]

seriously annoys me

[earnest remnant]

he is joining the old man squad

1 spec andies

[midnight mist]

maybe

[royal lantern]

its that one

[dawn heath]

its funny i study his vods too still doing 10% less in every key

[midnight mist]

ye but no

gap too big

[dawn heath]

he is built diff on that class

[earnest remnant]

also the guy plays like 10 hours a day

respect his grind

[midnight mist]

ok but

there is a cap

[royal lantern]

and its 34% crit

[midnight mist]

20% haste actually

but good try tryan

[earnest remnant]

also the shaman he plays with

is very very smart

[midnight mist]

he seems to be very ethical

[earnest remnant]

he actually allows casual to get his add value

[dawn heath]

you will actually do bigger damage the worse damage your shaman does ironically

[earnest remnant]

well ofc

its smart to let shitters live that dont matter if you have assa in the group

[balmy condor]

math checks out

[spice surge]

His shaman purposefully does "worse" aoe, so casual can do more

[subtle tundra]

i just looked at mandatory's 19 db dps, he did 3mil overall

stove

[dawn heath]

so like, drjay was playing with casual last few days and casual was doing smaller number than when he was playing with hawked

[subtle tundra]

if you play for the rogue to do more dps, he will do more

[dawn heath]

ye

but 3mil is not too high

i did 2.9mil in my last run with a non rogue route

[balmy condor]

his aug is perma on him surely

[dawn heath]

we did 2more pulls

than they did

in the key

[subtle tundra]

they timed 19 with 2:30 to spare