assassination

[dawn seal]

👀

[subtle tundra]

idk open some logs and look

[balmy condor]

if it's not envenom, it should be spatter

and it should be pretty close honestly

unless there's like 0 aoe I guess

if there's 0 aoe then spatter will be first

[dawn seal]

ohh

I was gonna join this new g on my rogue

I was checkin their log

they have another one

[ancient rain]

why is this so popular? I mean i use it because it's the only trinket that I ever got from vault but seems like everybody else got it too

[balmy condor]

it's strong

[subtle tundra]

so you wear gear for dps, right? And there

dps

[blazing pumice]

these oce prime time questions are getting very strange

[dawn seal]

we dont vanish without master assassin right

and ig

on dm window

[balmy condor]

if you don't have imp gar or ma, you have no reason to vanish, that's correct

can vanish for mark or a mechanic or something

[winged sun]

Because it has decent uptime

[dawn seal]

I am not using img gar or ma on ovinax for ct and talent before that thats correct right I saw that this is what people go but I dont know if its still good for prog

[balmy condor]

yes

[dawn seal]

ohhh perfect thank yo

[subtle tundra]

hold vanish for root break baby

[dawn seal]

hm

does it remove it

if someone roots

me

as well

I also use cloack if I pop an egg

to remove hp thing

[vague sun]

Yes. Vanish frees you from any movement-impairing effects

[dawn seal]

thanks

[final star]

just get a pre-freedom every web batchest

[royal lantern]

can i vanish irl to remove a movment imparing effect, my kneecaps?

[dawn seal]

yes

[dawn seal]

yeah

[vague sun]

Probably. Tell me who taught you vanish if you manage to pull it off

[subtle tundra]

i can remove your kneecaps

[balmy condor]

me me me me

remove my kneecaps!

the only pain I feel is the unrelenting passage of time showing me that I am nothing in the vast darkness of space

[subtle tundra]

omw to your place

hopefully i can sleep on the floor

[rotund oak]

also time does not exist,its a thing humans created to measure distance

[brave stump]

Good Morning, you wonderful people!

[nocturne remnant]

How does caustic splatter work? Someone told me I need to apply it more but it just comes out randomly, I apply my bleeds, use mutilate or fan of knives to get combo points, I use envenom and sometimes I splatter sometimes I don't

[midnight mist]

st builder

forgot the name

the 2 blue swords

[brave stump]

mutilate

[midnight mist]

• you need rupture on the target

[brave stump]

but you need to have poison applied to your weapon

[golden loom]

you have to mutilate a target that has rupture on it, and then u apply caustic for 10 seconds

[nocturne remnant]

I do

[brave stump]

and that what zacro said

[midnight mist]

If you don't have poisons applied to your weapons you have bigger issues than spatter

[golden loom]

also the big explosion that sometimes happens on envenom is a differnt thing, thats poison bomb

[brave stump]

don't worry in the last guild i was raiding in i was way too at times to notice

[warm vortex]

Guys

[brave stump]

only through kingsbane tracker i noticed

[midnight mist]

guys

[warm vortex]

Had a patreon order for

ok zac

[brave stump]

because number small

[warm vortex]

:(

i won't say it then

[midnight mist]

dont let me stop you

[warm vortex]

Ok

[balmy condor]

Guys

[brave stump]

Guys

[hollow river]

Guys

[warm vortex]

Had a patreon crafting order for a missive, they provided 25 apricate ink
Did it and got 12 for free :D

[balmy condor]

What’s the patreon for

[hollow river]

GN, Guys

[brave stump]

@hollow river i will keep an eye on chat

[balmy condor]

Guy, gn

[brave stump]

dw

[balmy condor]

He’s a raider

[hollow river]

[warm vortex]

Just a small milling buinsess i run on the side

[brave stump]

and do nothing

[subtle tundra]

BRO ITS LIKE NOON

WHAT

[storm hedge]

Hey people, any assassination specific tips for ansurek?

[warm vortex]

Posion her

[subtle tundra]

do fat cock deeps

[storm hedge]

We are hoping to win the RWL

[brave stump]

apply caustic spatter

[golden loom]

dont grief your darkest night in the intermission

[midnight mist]

dont forget to press your cooldowns on pull

I always forget !

[warm vortex]

fat cock deep in queen ansurek

[brave stump]

[subtle tundra]

queef ansurek

[storm hedge]

Why do I even try

[subtle tundra]

i mean, your question is very open ended

nothing to go on about

play the game?

[brave stump]

ask a little more

maybe

specific

[subtle tundra]

do your rotation

[brave stump]

[storm hedge]

Any tricks that might not be obvious?

[subtle tundra]

talenting tricks isnt obvious

[midnight mist]

I mean you guys are noob i could answer that question for outlaw

[brave stump]

you can shadowstep in intermission?

[midnight mist]

you assa people dont try on god

[storm hedge]

This is a good tip

[subtle tundra]

idk thats a HC level tip

[golden loom]

you need to run a bit and then step tho

[storm hedge]

But I already figured that out

[subtle tundra]

thats something you do on hc

[lusty kraken]

make sure to not screw up your mark

[subtle tundra]

i expect someone on mythic to know

[warm vortex]

Dude

[nocturne remnant]

But it needs deadly poison too

[warm vortex]

You come from the channel people argue in 24/7

You literally cannot say anything

[golden loom]

yeah that just gets applied by autos or anything really

[midnight mist]

and you guys are perma trolling

[brave stump]

you mean, he's an outlaw in here?

[ancient rain]

Tonight I play fatebound on silken and queen 🤪

[nocturne remnant]

Wait caustic splatter is not the green explosion?

[brave stump]

NO

NO

No

[hollow river]

no

[subtle tundra]

no, lol?

[nocturne remnant]

Oh wtf

[golden loom]

nah caustic does not really have an animation, posion bomb does tho

[warm vortex]

When i splatter that's what happens

[brave stump]

hover over you details

[warm vortex]

😳

[brave stump]

when you fight dummie

you'll see

[balmy condor]

A green explosion?

You should see a doctor

[warm vortex]

Yea?
I'm an assassin rogue

[nocturne remnant]

I have caustic splatter below mutilate in details

[earnest remnant]

if it was created then it now exists

[balmy condor]

My explosions are white

[nocturne remnant]

after a M+ I'm a bit confused

[subtle tundra]

so am i

[balmy condor]

Yeah that’s a huge issue

[golden loom]

screencap the details

[balmy condor]

Mutilate applies the debuff

You then hit that target with envenoms

[warm vortex]

Huh ok

[balmy condor]

That’s where the damage is

[nocturne remnant]

I always use mutilate to generate combo points on enemies with rupture then do envenom

[warm vortex]

maybe i should have picked up those antibiotics that were suggested to me 2 months ago

[subtle tundra]

do you, by any chance, try to put spatter on multiple targets

cause if so, maybe try reading

[balmy condor]

Yeah that’s sus

[rotund oak]

[nocturne remnant]

Ty for the tip, before you told me I didn't know how to read now I do and I'm a top 1 rogue player

[subtle tundra]

youre uh not playing the spec right

[nocturne remnant]

I did what I've seen in a guide

[balmy condor]

Wait that’s a 5

[subtle tundra]

did you huh

[warm vortex]

Yea assassin rn is like
Open with ambush if you don't have DN, if you do, just garrote instead
get 5 rus up on all enemies using garrote to make CP in your opener (if garrote is already applied to all use FoK instead)
Get CT up, then get splatter on your DS mark target
then just use envenom with 5 CP or more (Unless DN then use it with 7CP)
Just loop between FoK and envenom until you need to re-apply splatter or CT
If more mobs come in or Rups run out, vanish to spread rups

I think this is assasin 101

[storm hedge]

That's a five

[midnight mist]

wait where is spatter

[subtle tundra]

yeah..

[midnight mist]

do you by any chance

[balmy condor]

Off the screen

[midnight mist]

have it talented

[balmy condor]

But also it’s a 5

[midnight mist]

you are a 5

so what

[normal mist]

I had to rub my eyes twice to be sure it wasn't there

[nocturne remnant]

It's exactly what I'm trying to do, but my details shows that I'm doing something wrong, I just don't know what

[brave stump]

shaman comes in hits tempest and there will be no spatter

[midnight mist]

you meant ambush

[warm vortex]

If you are completly confused, it could be a good idea to record the run

[subtle tundra]

are you mutilating different targets?

[warm vortex]

So we can see what you were doing

[storm hedge]

It is possible that mobs just die too fast in a +5

[warm vortex]

Thanks for pointing out, correcting

[subtle tundra]

it would still do SOME damage

[nocturne remnant]

Maybe, M+ is very chaotic

[balmy condor]

Would assume to see at least some spatter

[midnight mist]

np im a master assassin

[subtle tundra]

well

you only target 1 mob

the one with the highest HP

[balmy condor]

But yeh without a log or something it’s just kinda “not enough spatter do more spatter”

[brave stump]

so many envenoms but no spatter

[balmy condor]

Can’t tell specific problems from a details meter

[nocturne remnant]

Idk how to log

[storm hedge]

Don't swap targets you can spread all your poisions and bleeds from one target

[brave stump]

das crazy

[warm vortex]

Caustic spatter makes it so your nature damage (Including envenom) hit all targets around the spatter
You apply splatter by hitting a target with mutilate, you can only have one up at once

[balmy condor]

!warcraftlogs

[nocturne remnant]

How so?

[storm hedge]

Just target the most healthy mob

[balmy condor]

Fuck

What’s the command

[midnight mist]

noob

[balmy condor]

!wcl

[warm vortex]

!logs

!Logging

[subtle tundra]

!ass

[warm vortex]

!logging

[golden loom]

there should be some spatter from siege first boss atleast right

[warm vortex]

!Fart

[brave stump]

!asslogs

[balmy condor]

I don’t use this command ever Zac cut me a break

[warm vortex]

!shiv

[balmy condor]

Hold

[subtle tundra]

zaq is just mean

[brave stump]

!commands

kek

[warm vortex]

Chocobo can you show us your talent build

[nocturne remnant]

Assa is very difficult and confusing so far, I thought I learned what to do but now I'm not sure

[warm vortex]

MOROES WAKE UP

[warm vortex]

It can be hard to get into

[brave stump]

it will be easy once you understand the basics

[warm vortex]

Also please ignore people being big meanies here, they just act like that

[balmy condor]

Wait it is !wcl

What

[storm hedge]

Try to do a rotation on 5 dummies in dornogal for like a minute.

[balmy condor]

!wcl

[brave stump]

!wcl

[balmy condor]

You bitch

[brave stump]

no

[golden loom]

!stealth

moroes is just gone

gg

[subtle tundra]

youre probably just not attacking the same target, also i dont really see damage from the mark but it might be too low

[low ruin]

vanished

[subtle tundra]

do you get mark on targets

[balmy condor]

Getting Started with Warcraftlogs https://www.wowhead.com/guide/how-to-use-warcraft-logs-6341
Logging your combat is a very powerful tool, and the main way of finding mistakes and improving yourself. Logging your raid, mythic+, or even just when you hit a dummy can be great way to learn!
Here's some common things to look at for rogues:

Checking your resources/overcap: Table -> Resources -> Energy/Combo Points from the dropdown
Buff Uptime and trigger amount such as adr/envenom/symbols: Table -> Buffs
Checking casts: Timeline -> Casts (shows sequencing) or Table -> Casts (for cast overview)

[warm vortex]

Oh my god

He is a walking ad

[subtle tundra]

bro became moroes

[dawn heath]

Copy pasta

[nocturne remnant]

I use it when I burst, the dmg from mark is below garrote's dot, idk why

[storm hedge]

Whyspir the Moroes

[warm vortex]

not deathmark

Deathstalkers mark

[subtle tundra]

not deathmark. the hero talent

[balmy condor]

When no bot, become bot

[warm vortex]

God i hate how they named it so simmilarly

[nocturne remnant]

Thank you!

[brave stump]

it's themeoriented

[hollow river]

i just hate that it exists

[brave stump]

[warm vortex]

\Also guys i have somethi9ng to admit
I played frost mage
and leveled it, trying the rota on a dummy.....
I liked it

[subtle tundra]

if you dont get the hero talent mark, youre playing without a hero talent

[subtle tundra]

yes cause its braindead

[brave stump]

you pressed icelance?

[subtle tundra]

like ret

[storm hedge]

Just try to stick to one target, assa dps comes from focusing one target and cleaving other targets almost passively from envenom -> spatter damage

[nocturne remnant]

Oh yeah I try, it just comes from ambush though and my tank was constantly chain pulling

[subtle tundra]

no it doesnt come from ambush only

[balmy condor]

Darkest night?

[storm hedge]

You can spread your bleeds from stealth without target swapping

[warm vortex]

Yess
I press button

It go big

it hit

do damagew

[nocturne remnant]

It literally says so when I hover the talent

[warm vortex]

Me happy

[midnight mist]

do you play with a weak aura pack

[balmy condor]

The capstone

[subtle tundra]

i will cry

[midnight mist]

natty ui isnt allowed cuh

[balmy condor]

The end talent

[brave stump]

I think it would be best to read whispyr's guide

[nocturne remnant]

"AMBUSH FROM STEALTH"

[subtle tundra]

i will cry

[brave stump]

[warm vortex]

The last talent of the hero tree

[golden loom]

you carry it over with envenom @nocturne remnant cause when you get the marks done or the target dies you get "darkest night" which is a big envenom that also applies the mark

[nocturne remnant]

I watched his guide, this is the result of what I learned from the guide

[brave stump]

Oh no

[hollow river]

read Darkest Night, the last talent on the hero tree

[midnight mist]

@balmy condor answer

[brave stump]

spreading misinformation

[midnight mist]

see what people learn from your gyuude

!

[warm vortex]

It says after consuming the final mark, you get a buff called Darkest night
When you use an envenom with 7CP it applies deathstalkers mark

[brave stump]

i think the sender is the problem in the communication here

[balmy condor]

This ain’t my fault dawg don’t pin this on me

[low ruin]

I'm reading this and trying my hardest not to say it.........

[subtle tundra]

im pinning you. to a wall. youre getting touched

[storm hedge]

I also learned from whispyr and I parsed 95 on silken and i'm a huge noob so...

[dawn seal]

are u playing spell slinger

[storm hedge]

Don't attack my teacher

[nocturne remnant]

I mained boomkin before, now I'm trying assa

[brave stump]

whispyr plays d4

so

[golden loom]

you should teach him some silken parsing it seems

[balmy condor]

Plays is a strong term

[subtle tundra]

ok but boomkin is very straightforward

[dawn seal]

whats d4

[storm hedge]

Just kill it now with all the buffs it's free

[balmy condor]

I have a 99 on silken excuse you

[subtle tundra]

you dont even juggle eclipses now

[golden loom]

well fuck

[nocturne remnant]

I mean at least I didn't need to study a book to understand how to use my buttons properly

[midnight mist]

I also learned from whisper guy

[dawn seal]

assasination in reality is not that compllicated

[midnight mist]

and im depleting my keys on timer

[dawn seal]

and very straight forward class

or am I wrong

[midnight mist]

[subtle tundra]

well for one im all for the removal of spatter and the herotalent

[balmy condor]

Mb

[subtle tundra]

you are, it is much more convoluted than most others

[midnight mist]

its ok cuh

[storm hedge]

low skill floor imo

[nocturne remnant]

Sure, then explain how I got those details instead of doing everything correctly since it's straight forward

[storm hedge]

But the rabbit hole goes pretty deep imo

[dawn seal]

I cant understand what u have been doing just from a single details table

[storm hedge]

propably didn't do everthing correctly

most likely answer

[subtle tundra]

most specs in the game do ok damage even if played very wrong

[dawn seal]

to apply it is a different thing but I feel like ur doos and donts are very clear after u have read the wowhead guide

[balmy condor]

We’re just going in circles

[nocturne remnant]

How am I supposed to know what I did wrong

[balmy condor]

Logs

[subtle tundra]

assa just does no damage

[nocturne remnant]

There is no way to tell

[balmy condor]

Logs

[brave stump]

NO WAY

Logs

[storm hedge]

Logs

[nocturne remnant]

I never did logs, I don't understand how they work

[storm hedge]

Well learn

[balmy condor]

That’s why I gave you the thing

[nocturne remnant]

I thought logs were only needed to get into top guilds

[dawn seal]

whispyr gaveu the thing

[subtle tundra]

i can go on warrior without opening any guide or reading any talent and do just fine

[balmy condor]

Getting Started with Warcraftlogs https://www.wowhead.com/guide/how-to-use-warcraft-logs-6341
Logging your combat is a very powerful tool, and the main way of finding mistakes and improving yourself. Logging your raid, mythic+, or even just when you hit a dummy can be great way to learn!
Here's some common things to look at for rogues:

Checking your resources/overcap: Table -> Resources -> Energy/Combo Points from the dropdown
Buff Uptime and trigger amount such as adr/envenom/symbols: Table -> Buffs
Checking casts: Timeline -> Casts (shows sequencing) or Table -> Casts (for cast overview)

[brave stump]

Im convinced now

[earnest remnant]

logs are a fantastic tool very worthwhile to learn how to utilize!

[brave stump]

the guy is ragebaiting

[golden loom]

im not even in a guild and I am addicted to logs 🙂

[dawn seal]

yes but

[subtle tundra]

how do you want us to know what youre doing wrong. clairvoyance?

[dawn seal]

u are an experienced player varas

I am a good example

this was my first real expansion

[nocturne remnant]

I don't even know the meaning of that word, english is not my first language

[balmy condor]

Getting Started with Warcraftlogs https://www.wowhead.com/guide/how-to-use-warcraft-logs-6341
Logging your combat is a very powerful tool, and the main way of finding mistakes and improving yourself. Logging your raid, mythic+, or even just when you hit a dummy can be great way to learn!
Here's some common things to look at for rogues:

Checking your resources/overcap: Table -> Resources -> Energy/Combo Points from the dropdown
Buff Uptime and trigger amount such as adr/envenom/symbols: Table -> Buffs
Checking casts: Timeline -> Casts (shows sequencing) or Table -> Casts (for cast overview)

[subtle tundra]

i am expericened but i wouldnt be able to go on sub and do well

[brave stump]

what's your first language

[warm vortex]

Guys i meant to queue for love co but queued for random heroic as tank

[nocturne remnant]

Can you explain what the last word means? I never heard it sorry

[earnest remnant]

whispyr have you not slept yet?

[warm vortex]

i feel too bad to leave

[midnight mist]

i mean the real answer is that you need to read your spells everyday, so you also end up understanding why you do things, i dont think just reading a rotation guide is enough to learn a spec

[warm vortex]

so im finsihing it

[nocturne remnant]

Italian

[brave stump]

[warm vortex]

acc nvm

[dawn seal]

I never did m+ or any raiding before I started with mage got into rogue and it felt like eh easy to understand the doos or donts but maybe its cuz I started with a mage

[warm vortex]

i cba

[dawn seal]

u might be right

[subtle tundra]

if a ret only player suddenly decided to play assa, he'd quit.

[nocturne remnant]

But I did read them, I also watched a rotation guide and thought I was doing it correctly and just had low gear

[midnight mist]

but you read them again and again until you understand

[storm hedge]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/how-to-use-warcraft-logs-6341 go here and make a log of a dummy fight or an m+ dungeon. It can help us help you

[subtle tundra]

buddy are you gonna come here with a log or not, youre just being stubborn

[midnight mist]

you read your buffs and dbuffs

and spells

and everythnig

[dawn seal]

the main thing is knowing what ur stuff do

[midnight mist]

lot of reading !

[dawn seal]

then what u are suppose to do

[nocturne remnant]

Why are you using difficult words all the time? I need to google at least 1 word every sentence I read 😅

[brave stump]

i thought tiktoks

[dawn seal]

then like making it work like practical u need to be able to do what it is in wowhead

[brave stump]

read guide

again and again

until understand

[balmy condor]

Bring log

[golden loom]

have you done any raiding yet? maybe someone logged a run you were in so that we could take a look at that

[balmy condor]

Portare un log

[bronze pike]

[dawn seal]

yes thats good

[balmy condor]

So we can readare

[warm vortex]

Guys between all this

can we agree crawgs are adorb

[balmy condor]

Idk what read is in Italian

[nocturne remnant]

So I need to go in a key doing everything wrong while logging so I can ask for help?

[warm vortex]

Look at this lil guy

[nocturne remnant]

read is leggere

[dawn seal]

just play the key

bring the log

[balmy condor]

Yes

[midnight mist]

you need to leggere your spells and talents

[dawn seal]

u dont have to force urself to make mistakes

[nocturne remnant]

rofl I know what read means

[midnight mist]

same

[balmy condor]

Leggere my balls in your mouth

[bronze pike]

Wrong thing

[nocturne remnant]

I do read them, but that doesn't mean that I understand how to apply what I read properly

[bronze pike]

traer un registro

[balmy condor]

Leggere my mozzarella en tu bocca

[dawn heath]

This must be copy pasta bait

[brave stump]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bch7ywYnd6jPFLg3?fight=4&type=damage-done&source=124

a little ulgrax

[bronze pike]

Nah it was a art thing

[nocturne remnant]

I did raid I think it was in october on warrior

[brave stump]

i mean

[nocturne remnant]

And my guild doesn't do log

[brave stump]

i just pulled up your log

[bronze pike]

I was posting on social media and cba to write unique thing on each 173518162 platform

[brave stump]

Oh

[balmy condor]

Okay whatever you guys figure this out I’m going to bed I can’t anymore

[warm vortex]

Can i come

[bronze pike]

Hot

[dawn seal]

good night whispyr

[hollow river]

[nocturne remnant]

Where do I find the log of my last key?

[drifting basin]

guys im in shambles. How the fuck does this casualaddict guy do this much dps in comparison to me

[balmy condor]

Buona notte amigo

[brave stump]

it isnt logged

[earnest remnant]

you log it yourself

[subtle tundra]

out of the first 9 gcds, 2 are correct

[midnight mist]

ok but you need to also understand what you read tho, like read spells while hitting a dummy and shit, you will slowly understand what is what and what does what, like i know here you didnt understand spatter properly, neither did you understand the hero talent (bottom and top node mostly)

[earnest remnant]

press the link they gave you

for how to log

[bronze pike]

[dawn heath]

Helping this guy seems like a lost cause

[storm hedge]

What realm are you on?

[dawn seal]

droping

[nocturne remnant]

Nemesis

[bronze pike]

Don’t be to mean y’all

[warm vortex]

Ok tbf

i remember when i tried arms

[midnight mist]

its not that bad

[subtle tundra]

idk the fact that everyone is talking and saying different things isnt helping him

[midnight mist]

the core concepts are here

[nocturne remnant]

Being rude or laughing at me for being bad won't help me in any way, I am trying my best and I thought I was not doing everything wrong

[dawn seal]

yeah prio list/ the opener is really important

[warm vortex]

one of the guys who talked in the discord described my gampeplay as like
"Never played it before"

[subtle tundra]

he needs 1 person to talk to and him to listen.

[nocturne remnant]

Now you told me that I did 0 things right from what I understood

[dawn seal]

yes I am sorry I didnt mean to confuse people

[golden loom]

Asking for help is better than what 99% of people do, there is a lot of clowning going on here atm tho

[storm hedge]

Yea this chat kinda sucks

[subtle tundra]

true

[storm hedge]

Most people just spam

[bronze pike]

So

[nocturne remnant]

I came here thinking I only needed to do splatter more, now I think I'm the worst rogue player alive

[dawn seal]

lmao

[storm hedge]

Not the worst no

[midnight mist]

cant believe someone told me outlaw chat was hunepfull yesterday

[dawn seal]

@golden loom do u remember my blood bound log were u there

[bronze pike]

What I need people to do, reply to chocobolord with a log review of what he did wrong in that ulgrsx kill

[subtle tundra]

blizzard remove spatter remove ic remove deathstalker bring back bleeding glory

[golden loom]

I saw a guy throw 12 poisoned knives in a row on a boss, you are far from the worst dont worry

[storm hedge]

There's literally 12% of the rogue players below you that's like hundreds of parses

[golden loom]

yeah you ran around for 50 seconds not hitting the boss

[drifting basin]

i was watching casualaddict do a +19 mist yesterday, and the guy was bursting for around 5 m dps and ended the boss at 3 m dps. I usually burst for like 3,5 m dps and end the boss at around 2 m dps. I usually parse pretty well and am therefore incredibly confused how this guy can do this much more dps than me. He uses a transmitter instead of skardyns, which obviously provides more mainstat during cds. Does this have anything to do with it? Or am i just that bad

[dawn seal]

I dont think anyone was trying to insult u and u understood it in a very wrong way

[nocturne remnant]

Ok I can start logging but I need a comparison so I know what I'm aiming to

Doing keys like this is very stressful

[dawn seal]

I think

just re read wow head

[storm hedge]

Just go to dummies in dornogal

[dawn seal]

do ocuple keys

get log reviews

from 1 person

in here

[subtle tundra]

transmitter is more burst on ST
skardyn is more aoe

[dawn seal]

yes

[warm vortex]

Just letting you know man, ill be open to just chill talk about this in dm
A lot is going on right now and it's hard to follow

[hollow river]

while i don't condone whatever this clusterfuck is rn, at least their question wasn't just written off with trolling

[subtle tundra]

it wont matter much on overall, transmitter vs skardyn

[bronze pike]

I suggest doing a dummy log test in dornagol for rn

Then post log

[golden loom]

My honest advice, start out in raid, its much more simple to learn your single target rotation first, also easier to draw reference from raids compared to random M+ logs

[bronze pike]

Also keys the secret is legit not giving a fuck about them

You fail you go next

[low ruin]

@nocturne remnant
https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/herorotation

Don't blindly follow it, at least try to learn and understand every suggestion it makes by asking questions and reading the pins / guides

but this should give you a better place to start than unhelpful messages or demands for logs you don't know how to provide.

[bronze pike]

That is the mentality you have to have

End of the day we all start somewhere

[brave stump]

[subtle tundra]

killing myself?

[drifting basin]

sure, but it should matter on a boss that has a burst phase, no?

[midnight mist]

happened once ever, idk why you evenbring it up, also i wasnt there unlucky

[subtle tundra]

yes it matters on that boss

[midnight mist]

no way he did the thing

[low ruin]

i did the thing

[storm hedge]

delete this please

[drifting basin]

but is it a 50% diff? can't be, right

[low ruin]

reading this is painful

[hollow river]

naw it's happened a plethora of times lately

[brave stump]

even a yellow name

oh no

[subtle tundra]

youre probably not setting up correctly

maybe he gets PI

[bronze pike]

Yellow names out

[drifting basin]

so im assuming its a l2p issue from me, but I LITERALLY cant figure out what the fuck im doing incorrectly

[nocturne remnant]

I wish I could

[drifting basin]

which im usually pretty good at

[bronze pike]

I was same way

[subtle tundra]

can you link log?

[low ruin]

absolutely not, i view this tool as a learning aid i will not delete something that can help people

[bronze pike]

It takes awhile

[midnight mist]

i have been there a bit less lately cause too much shit going on, what can i do

[storm hedge]

It teaches bad habbits

[bronze pike]

But ultimately if I can do it, u can

[hollow river]

it isn't your fault brozer

[brave stump]

No Solo No Manners

[drifting basin]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/qZj9xGWQCk3NB64n?fight=1&type=damage-done&pull=3

[subtle tundra]

i always go into the burn phase with rupture, garrote, ct and DN up

[midnight mist]

maybe but there is no one else in outlaw chat so

[low ruin]

what bad habits?

[bronze pike]

Now just ignore chat for rn, start a log and do your best on a dummy. Then post it here @nocturne remnant

[subtle tundra]

even if it fucks my dps on tree a bit, its more important to have good burst

[subtle tundra]

bruh you dont even have an aug

[drifting basin]

this run was a little scuffed though, because we were so close to dying so my setup was kind of fucked up

[bronze pike]

Rotation helpers just don’t work for sin

Due to how the spec is design

[subtle tundra]

does your priest properly use the MC to get dmg buff

[bronze pike]

It’s more useful on outlaw

[subtle tundra]

its a lot of minmaxing

[drifting basin]

but still, ive never even been CLOSE to 5 m dps during that burst window

[earnest remnant]

did you compare yourself to a log of casual or a vod?

[drifting basin]

yes

[low ruin]

then i suggest you try it.

[bronze pike]

But even then it also teaches bad habit:

[drifting basin]

vod

[subtle tundra]

aug is a lot of dps

like a lot

[earnest remnant]

well -.-

[dawn seal]

this is gonna be harmful %100

[storm hedge]

Assa is more about planning next few gcds, having bleeds up, envenom ready for cds and such. That addon teaches you to press buttons

[dawn seal]

underliner is so correct

[bronze pike]

Idk why your getting defensive on this

[earnest remnant]

if he has aug in his run

you cannot log at a vod

for dmg

[dawn seal]

I think understanding the rotation and learning it usally the best way to learn a spec

[drifting basin]

haha, im a noob, but not that big of a noob

[bronze pike]

Sin is design with planning for gcds and pooling

[dawn seal]

instead of an addon telling u what to rpess

[storm hedge]

Might work for other specs but herorotation is harmful for assa players

[bronze pike]

Rotation helpers just tells u to press buttons and be reactive on what’s going on rn

[subtle tundra]

aug with potion and 40 spymaster gives so much dps in a phase where you do 3x the dmg in a burst window

[bronze pike]

Which is not helpful on sin at all

[low ruin]

I'm not being defensive, you are making statements that are just false based on what information exactly? your own opinion?

[storm hedge]

Like outlaw where you just press buttons it might work but not for assa

[bronze pike]

Again more helpful on outlaw then sin

[drifting basin]

but even in runs where i do have an aug, (i ran 2 mist 17s yesterday were we depleted), i wasnt close to touching 5 m dps

[golden loom]

well thats a crazy take

[bronze pike]

No it’s a fact that rotation helpers aren’t helpful on sin

This isn’t a opinion

[low ruin]

ok bro

[bronze pike]

It’s a fact due to how sin is designed

[golden loom]

you can probably fuck up 100x harder on outlaw compared to sin

[storm hedge]

yea tried to be a little spicy

[dawn heath]

5m dps where?

[drifting basin]

first boss mist

[low ruin]

this is just wrong sorry

[drifting basin]

during burst window

[dawn heath]

Ah

[bronze pike]

I really don’t want to @ whipsyr for this

[storm hedge]

it's not. You learn to be reactive on a spec you have to be planning

[bronze pike]

To tell u that rotation helpers don’t help for sin

So imma grab a screenshot of him saying it

[dawn heath]

I usually do 3.6 to 4.2 i dont think 5mil is realistic

After burn

[low ruin]

you realise these addons use blizzard api right? which cann give you the state of everything pretty much? duration remaining on cooldowns

basically anything to do with your player state

[normal mist]

Let's just put it this way:

• if rotation helpers were good, we would advise them to new players.

And we don't

[drifting basin]

do you have a log of this? i want to compare ur setup to mine

[earnest remnant]

tbf the way seny worded it is sort of correct

[iron carbon]

🤡

[drifting basin]

even 4 m would be a huge improvement from where the fuck im at

[subtle tundra]

so i cant really see it on log, but you want to use DM and KB before the boss actually starts the phase so you can get all KB ticks in the dmg amp, and have maximum number of gcds in it. I also have DN up and (most of the time) i get 2 DN envenoms in it. Also you didnt have CT on boss

you wont do 4mil cause no aug

i just typed out the shit i do on it

[earnest remnant]

stuff like herorotation or hekili is a good crutch not a "YOU MUST FOLLOW THIS" but its okay for new people to grasp how a spec functions AS LONG AS YOU ACTUALLY SIT DOWN AND TRY AND UNDERSTAND WHY IT TELLS YOU WHAT IT DOES

[storm hedge]

And you realize that herorotation just gives you what apl would do, not considering anything that makes the fight actually complicated (adds spawning, vulnerabilites, upcoming pulls for m+ etc.)

[low ruin]

Historically maybe, but I'm confident with the state of my code and I will conntinue to recommend it to players trying to learn

[midnight mist]

wait i never tought of that but

i have a question

[subtle tundra]

damn... you never thought?

[drifting basin]

yeah you're right for sure, and i shouldve probably linked some other log but i dont have anything else that's recent. This run was a little scuffed due to us dying so my setup got fucked

[subtle tundra]

not surprising

[bronze pike]

I just feel like using a rotation helper to start with a spec seems like gimping yourself early

[midnight mist]

if i rupture tree, does he keep the ruptrue during damage phase when he is imune

same question for mced add

[subtle tundra]

yes

for mc

never payed attention to tree

[earnest remnant]

depends on how its being used

[midnight mist]

so you get the agi buff

[subtle tundra]

you should still get agi

[earnest remnant]

if you blindly follow it

[bronze pike]

It almost leads to bad habits when people start off with it

[earnest remnant]

yes

its bad

[midnight mist]

and it ticks down for energy or it doesnt

[subtle tundra]

idk

i think so

but it wont be poisoned

[midnight mist]

[storm hedge]

And tbf I don't meant delete this as delete the addon, I meant delete that message. It is not good for assa

[subtle tundra]

and it needs to be poisoned for energy

[bronze pike]

But I understand the idea stealthie

[nocturne remnant]

Ok ty

[midnight mist]

oh ok

[bronze pike]

It’s the same for ret paladin

[midnight mist]

i didnt even know that

[subtle tundra]

read your fucking abilities

[midnight mist]

nope

[subtle tundra]

fuck

[bronze pike]

Hekili or whatever is basically a weak aura

[golden loom]

zac is full vibes player

[bronze pike]

But it’s like a tool to use when you have a solid grasp on your spec

[midnight mist]

i am

[bronze pike]

More then something you use to start a spec

[earnest remnant]

i will literally go hit a dummy now

with the addon installed

[bronze pike]

Idk that’s my two cents on it

[low ruin]

Actually i agree that rotation helpers are just glorified Weak Auras

[normal mist]

Have fun mister stealthi

[bronze pike]

They kinda are ya

[earnest remnant]

i wont

last time i did

i was asked to test one for sub

and i wanted to die

[subtle tundra]

go on more than 1 target

[low ruin]

but they do most of the tracking for you but to be clear i'm not suggestion Hekili. Explicitly HeroRotation.

[drifting basin]

thats literally what they are, no? didnt hekili start as a WA?

[hollow river]

[earnest remnant]

talking to me?

[bronze pike]

Im guessing there’s a difference?

[subtle tundra]

yeah

[bronze pike]

Hekili is what I use for ret

[subtle tundra]

see how well it performs ❤️

[rotund oak]

[subtle tundra]

bro

[low ruin]

yeh im the dev for Rogue HR, I'm confident in my own code. but if ppl wanna use alternatives go aheaad

[golden loom]

is this all a big ad for herorotation

[bronze pike]

Just ya know kill everything non essential

[subtle tundra]

ret is like the spec that needs hekili the least

what the fuck?

[rotund oak]

nothing needs hekilli

ever

[bronze pike]

Basically tells me when blade of justice is ready to rip

That’s all

Cause I’m to lazy to make a blade of justice weakaura

No point to expend the effort

[bronze pike]

Ye

[subtle tundra]

any WA package will have it

what

[storm hedge]

Only rotation helper you need is lorrgs.io

[rotund oak]

ill make u one blade of justice WA,just for u my man

if u uninstall hekili ofc

[bronze pike]

Ty sap

[rotund oak]

❤️

[bronze pike]

Already gone

[iron carbon]

Not sure Hekili will tell you to spread ruptures

[drifting basin]

it does

[bronze pike]

Ah so you do the hero rotation stuff

[low ruin]

only rogue

[drifting basin]

ive actually found hekili to be pretty good on assa, especially ST

[bronze pike]

Did u work with crispy whispy to make it as best as possible

?

[drifting basin]

hekili works REALLY well when it doesnt have to account for off-synced cooldowns etc

[low ruin]

i mean kinda i use his apl

and tweak for scenarios and actual players

[rotund oak]

rly now

how good

[bronze pike]

gl

[drifting basin]

i got a 97 in raid with it

its not a 99

but 97 is still pretty good

sikran

[rotund oak]

u can get any parse without hekili though

[drifting basin]

of course, i was just testing hekili

to see if it it actually worked well

[bronze pike]

It’s really just a glorified weak aura

That you largely ignore

So ergo it has no point

If you know your spec

[rotund oak]

its something that makes my eyes roll backwards

[bronze pike]

I’m just lazy

[rotund oak]

so much i can see my brain

[low ruin]

but my entire point of mentioning it here is to help people learn. I'm not saying it's going to get you ranks (but im confident it will).

[royal lantern]

isnthat the hekili dev again?

[drifting basin]

huh

[earnest remnant]

once i understood the addond it was "okay" had some weird overcap stuff it wanted me to do do refresh caustic even tho i had time for a finisher and re-apply after it

[balmy condor]

Why would I play the game myself and grow my skillset and feel the joy of improvement and self-fulfillment and like, understand what I’m doing

When I could just download addon

:3

[rotund oak]

ill tell u one thing which im 100% certain,hekili wont help u learn anything,to the contrary its counterintuitive to learning.You mindlessly follow what it says for u to press

[balmy condor]

I am monkey push the button it says

[warm vortex]

How some people think of Wa

[drifting basin]

isnt that kinda unfair. some people learn by doing, some people learn by reading

[balmy condor]

That implies you’re learning

[golden loom]

Using rotation helpers is kinda good for real life tho, prepares you for the ai takeover

[rare jackal]

so real king
using weakauras is a crutch

[midnight mist]

I knew you were an hekillih user

[drifting basin]

its pretty fulfilling to learn by using hekili for me when im playing alts

[bronze pike]

Real

[rare jackal]

raw dog your rotation like JPC

[low ruin]

i mean that's 1 approach to using it but i said "don't follow it blindly, go learn why it's making suggestions"

[drifting basin]

and then read when i get to the details

[royal lantern]

the thing is like

yeha it probs is allright

but you literally dont learn your class, you "learn" to follow a addon

and at that point, why play the game + you will struggle everytime you cant follow it blind

[bronze pike]

Already deleted cuh

Sap gonna make me a good boj weakaura

With black jack

And hookers

[balmy condor]

I fucking hate rotation helpers man

[drifting basin]

i dont think this is true at all. everyones different. i learn by using hekili, how to do my opener etc

[rare jackal]

mindlessly following hekili = cringe
mindlessly following whatever whispyr tells me to press = based

[balmy condor]

Even if they work, very “if”

[warm vortex]

What do rotation helprs do aside from help your rotation

Never heard of em

[earnest remnant]

all ill say on the subject after i did the test, it was better than hekili was for sub

[balmy condor]

It’s just fucking stupid and antithetical to playing a game

[low ruin]

it's literally your APL being shown in a WA live

[balmy condor]

Yeah

Fuck you for that

[rotund oak]

its a rotational tool,which u claimed ''helps people'' when it literally doesnt,and kinda provided the reason why so idk why you should not use hekili and train urself 🙂

[subtle tundra]

They never take circumstances in consideration

[storm hedge]

Sims aren't supposed to be used in real game situations.

[subtle tundra]

Take me in. Consider?

[drifting basin]

i kind of came into this conversation mid through. Are people arguing that rotational helpers doesnt help people?

[earnest remnant]

yeh thats the 1 thing i hate about em

[bronze pike]

It’s just not something I’ve suggest to new players

I’m sorry

[earnest remnant]

use it on silken court next raid varas

DO IT

[subtle tundra]

I've never played silken court

Buddy

[bronze pike]

Like use it as a tool when your more seasoned sure

But even then at that point

[subtle tundra]

Blessed😘

[earnest remnant]

on queen then

[low ruin]

set it up right and it gives you back conntrol & can even give you optionsn if you know what you're doing

[golden loom]

perfect time to learn your rotation then

[bronze pike]

You don’t really need it either

[iron carbon]

Rotational helpers are more : new class, I wanna play but I don't want to learn, tell me what to do

[storm hedge]

exactly at the point it can be helpful you already don't need it

[iron carbon]

My opinion

[low ruin]

it's only making suggestions of what to press. if you blow your CD's cause you play whack a mole with a WA icon

thats on the user

[subtle tundra]

Ugh fine

[earnest remnant]

question, wouldnt setting it up mean you would have to know how to play Assa to begin with or do you mean something else?

[bronze pike]

That’s kinda

[balmy condor]

You either use it when you don’t know shit and then never know what to do cause you just press icons, or you do know what to do and then why are you using it

[bronze pike]

“Washing your hands” of the situation

Dk t you think??

[rotund oak]

between hekili and whispyr ill take whispyr coz hair is infinitely better ( 😂 )

[hollow river]

then why suggest it to newer players who will 100% blindly follow it

[balmy condor]

Like why even play a game

What’s the point

[drifting basin]

jokes on them, i blow my cooldowns on cooldown all the time because im too lazy to look up when its optimal to use them

[storm hedge]

Answer this please Seny

[low ruin]

kinda of, there's some options like showing CDs / certain abilities in different places other than the main icon annd a couple of things like cast sequences telling you what to press immidiately after offgcd abilities like vanish for example

[subtle tundra]

I blow my shit too

[bronze pike]

I know your somewhat proud of your work and that’s understandable

Takes a lot to code

And I’m sure it has good intentions

It’s just again, really not helpful for this general situation

[earnest remnant]

on target dummies it worked "fine" outside of the weird overcap it told me to do

[bronze pike]

Probably for a player that has a good idea about sin but still needs help. I feel like that’s the ideal situation for rotation helpers

[storm hedge]

Yea that's cause sims are basicly dummy fights right?

[earnest remnant]

but unfortunately that isnt a real world scenario

[balmy condor]

That does actually remind me though, do you think Lockheed Martin devs are proud of their work? I’ve never met one to ask

[earnest remnant]

and i wont be doing a key until next season so

[low ruin]

it gives a good base of how to play and some1 who really wants to learn will or should question it and go read things to understand why.

and at the same time it also works for ppl that wanna pick up an alt not rly learn it yet but just go have some fun.

[drifting basin]

yeah i dont get that part either

[rare jackal]

ofc they are

[drifting basin]

why does it overcap

[bronze pike]

What the fuck is a Lockheed martins

[drifting basin]

seems like the most simple thing to fix

but what the fuck do i know

[earnest remnant]

early refresh of caustic

[balmy condor]

The military company that makes like guided missiles and shit

[earnest remnant]

was what it wanted me to do

[bronze pike]

Oh

[rare jackal]

huge aviation and arms manufacturer

[bronze pike]

Ohhhhh

[subtle tundra]

no. nobody is proud of what they do. its all a game of pretend

[bronze pike]

Ye..

[low ruin]

this is either done by the Sim as well because of the priority of shiv and spatter or its just a bug i havnt noticed yet

[drifting basin]

sometimes it also wants me to shiv/kingsbane on full combo points, but i havent even bothered to look up if thats incorrect or not

[earnest remnant]

shiv without arterial has 0 effect

[subtle tundra]

it is to shiv

[balmy condor]

That can happen

[earnest remnant]

so it wouldnt be that

[drifting basin]

i see, welp, guess hekili is better than me

[rotund oak]

its not

its just irrelevant

just train urself

u dont need whispyr or anyone

practice makes perfect

but whispyr does make a veyr good job

[normal mist]

Talking about rotation helpers is such a waste of time and energy

[rotund oak]

thats a plus

[subtle tundra]

whispyr am i having buttsex by doing deathmark -> envenom -> kingsbane in m+ ST? i just like doing it that way

[balmy condor]

Sure

Whatever makes you happy man

[bronze pike]

I hope lordchocobo is having fun with his dummy test

[royal lantern]

sanest varas comment

[subtle tundra]

would hekili do the same

[bronze pike]

So we can actually help him

[balmy condor]

Fuck if I know

[normal mist]

If you let it

[storm hedge]

great way to phrase that

[drifting basin]

it also chugs tea like a motherfucker. like blows 3 teas during one deathmark type of deal

[balmy condor]

Sims aren’t even optimized around every single situation, it’s not possible

[drifting basin]

is that also correct?

[bronze pike]

But whispyr

Outlaw sims said

There’s

[balmy condor]

No

[bronze pike]

.3% gain of I slam rtb rules

With my penis

R u saying

[subtle tundra]

my thought process is to get the last tick of kb outside of DM in 30% dmg increase, maybe optimally you use kb 6 seconds into DM cause it takes 6 seconds to get full stacks

am i tripping

[bronze pike]

It’s impossible???

With hekili?

[drifting basin]

poggers ty get fucked hekili

[rotund oak]

he's very honest and how do u call it,cynical i believe

[balmy condor]

No not even that, I’m saying like no sane theorycrafter is sitting there optimizing “real world situations” like a 25 second 9 target pull

That’s just not in the cards

[subtle tundra]

like clinical? clinically insane

[midnight mist]

[bronze pike]

Flash back to that one time

[midnight mist]

is that a real cook or

[bronze pike]

Fuu got pissed off

[midnight mist]

whospar

[golden loom]

you would lose like 3% of this though

[rotund oak]

U are very much normal,want it or not 😉

[subtle tundra]

probably not. im just bored mid rotation so i think of what i could do

[balmy condor]

Wdym is that a real cook, I just said it’s whatever

You gain x and lose y, makes no difference

[midnight mist]

but

[balmy condor]

We had the same thing when this was a tier set

[midnight mist]

[dawn seal]

oh about that shiv question

[subtle tundra]

my thought process is caused by 1 shiv only gaming

[golden loom]

also during deathmark u have an extra stack of scent of blood in ST right?

[dawn seal]

if kb is about to hit 7 seconds remaining

[midnight mist]

you are so cute when you are angry whispyr

[dawn seal]

if I have full darkest night 7 cp raedy

I sent 2nd shiv

right

we dont care

[subtle tundra]

probably doesnt matter

[balmy condor]

Dude I can’t sleep, I learned some Italian, yelled at clouds about the stupidity of rotation helpers

[dawn seal]

oh it doesnt

[balmy condor]

And now I’m having to repeat myself that nothing matters

[subtle tundra]

do whatever gives you dopamine

[balmy condor]

25x

[drifting basin]

theres ur problem

[golden loom]

surely its just a nightmare and you are asleep

[drifting basin]

ure learning an inferior language

[earnest remnant]

you should see him when he was neck deep in sims realizing that nothing he did mattered in them

it was all just the same

[rare jackal]

italian assa guide when

[balmy condor]

We be cooking some m+ tech and Zac still won’t time his keys unlucky

[storm hedge]

Last raid I got KB parried and still was top dps on pull. Pog gameplay

Literally doesn't matter what you press

[midnight mist]

But I read your guide tho

Why am I doing 400k less DPS than casual

Must be your guide

Won't read agajn

Won't recommend

[drifting basin]

true, im blaming whispyr

also ON THE SUBJECT

let me ask

[balmy condor]

My highest dps going into intermission on court, I didn’t get to complete my transmitter minigame

Didn’t have a trinket

Was at like 3.5

Was pretty sick

[subtle tundra]

yeah.......

[balmy condor]

I don’t understand this game for shit man

[royal lantern]

you play wow, you cant read

stop lying

[midnight mist]

varas

i need a vod review before tomorrow

so i dont do 0 dps in front of the peoples

can you do that

[subtle tundra]

for dawnybee?

[midnight mist]

who tf is dawnybee

[subtle tundra]

is it db in tgp?

dawnbreaker

[bronze pike]

https://tenor.com/view/supernatural-jensen-ackles-dean-winchester-dean-spn-gif-7766524

[midnight mist]

i have no idea what key is in tgp

[dawn seal]

I wish deathmark was parryable

[bronze pike]

Bruja malla bruja malla

[dawn seal]

ngl I kinda like to not now if my ability is gonna hit or not

[balmy condor]

Also beats me man he just asks me ring questions and if thundergem cheese is abuse-able in tgp and I have to explain how war queens works

[dawn seal]

I like gambling

[balmy condor]

He just presses buttons

[midnight mist]

ok but

if i do the same damage as him as outlaw

[subtle tundra]

my theory is having a very good team -> more dps

[midnight mist]

surely i can do the same as assa

[balmy condor]

Dunno you’d have to hash that out with him I guess

[midnight mist]

i will ask varas my best buddy

[bronze pike]

New pfp

[subtle tundra]

better coordonation,mobstacking, faster prep

[balmy condor]

Whenever I watch him he’s not doing anything weird

It’s all very standard

[drifting basin]

he pisses on my overall

i hate casual

[hearty reef]

Ehispyr ehy am i not doing the same dmg as others?

[drifting basin]

he gives me anxiety over my assa skills

[balmy condor]

Try rotation helper I guess xddd

[bronze pike]

How can I

A vdh

[subtle tundra]

i blame that i dont do more than him the fact that i play with elemental shaman

steals all my aoe

does less st

[bronze pike]

Do competitive damage against a single rogue?

[drifting basin]

i usually deflect it by saying that my key level is too low and that the pissers in the pull die before i can ramp up

[bronze pike]

Answer that sin losers

[drifting basin]

but now im doing 17s and the pissers arent dying

and im still doing piss

so now i HATE casual

[balmy condor]

Blame the Aug

[subtle tundra]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[hearty reef]

Maybe

Maybe

[balmy condor]

The Aug must play incorrectly

[hearty reef]

He's just thag hood

[drifting basin]

true

the aug fucking sucks

[subtle tundra]

the aug literally is playing around the shamans cds all the time

for me

[bronze pike]

Then after that

[subtle tundra]

like what

?!?!?!? FUCK YOU

IM IMPORTANT

I MATTER

[bronze pike]

Blame the Chinese key players

[balmy condor]

The Aug is trolling you by sucking off the shaman so true that’s where the damage is missing

[bronze pike]

For abusing things that we ethical North Americans won’t

[balmy condor]

Do not log

But like

Yeah

That’s it

Don’t log

That’s it for sure

[drifting basin]

yeah its the augs fault i parse 70

agreed

[balmy condor]

That’s not even bad

[subtle tundra]

idk i dont stress over it that much, i know i play well

[drifting basin]

i have a new deflection

i say my shaman does too much dmg

[subtle tundra]

so if some other guy does better good for him

[drifting basin]

so he steals my dmg since dmg is finite in keys

[subtle tundra]

unironically if you play with elemental shaman like i do,he fucking does

[balmy condor]

Isn’t damage finite just in general

[drifting basin]

it is

so if i parse low its not even my fault

[bronze pike]

They killed my reaver bug

Now my damage is finite

[balmy condor]

[subtle tundra]

when he uses 40 spymaster + potion and literally evaporates the pull

[bronze pike]

Legit lunch box all over again

[rotund oak]

Casualdaddy is a fellow greek lad that sweats to minmax on how he breathes,trains constantly and prolly the most high-quality rogue atm,least since ramfam disappeared.

[bronze pike]

Is so joeover

We’re not barrack

[balmy condor]

So hekili then

[subtle tundra]

if only he wasnt full of ego, looking at the drama in tgp

🙂

[rotund oak]

ofc not,the man sweats and trains,what does hekili have to do with training,u literally switch ur brain off

[balmy condor]

Excuse me varas have you cut him open and checked what’s inside him?

I think he’s full of spaghetti

[subtle tundra]

i have my weiner in my hand dont make me

[balmy condor]

Or maybe rocks

[rotund oak]

we all are,im just proud he is such a good rogue,its very rare.We all have ego issues,just not let it get toxic enough to others,i hate toxicity