assassination

[subtle tundra]

☹️

i sleep better while drunk

[earnest remnant]

i dont really drink

[subtle tundra]

DAMN

why do i keep finding out about people not drinking

[runic hinge]

don't worry, I'll drink with you

[golden loom]

people need to lock in and start drinking

[balmy condor]

I’ll drink the drinks Stealthi doesn’t

[subtle tundra]

its unhealthy to not drink

keeps the mind sharp

and the body humble

[balmy condor]

True

Idk how people can go without drinking

How else do you make the shakes go away

[earnest remnant]

through the 30 different types of medicins that i take

[drifting cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-8470516175995282617

[earnest remnant]

that makes me not allowed to really drink

unless i plan it ahead and stop taking one of them for about 3 days prior

[subtle tundra]

FUCKING

[balmy condor]

Huh

[subtle tundra]

sorry whisp

[ebon ingot]

hey guys do we have a website or blog that shows what defensives/skills are usefull for specific mechanics in season 1

[normal kindle]

We screwed for S2 cause of so many Dj boss mechanics that are awful for melee dps .... Better focus on a caster DPS

[subtle tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gato-funny-dj-festa-gif-15160628

dj boss?

[balmy condor]

no

[tawdry halo]

Trial and error

let fuckups be your guide

but also just ask for specific situations most people know

[balmy condor]

98% of the stuff this season is just logical

the only two weird ones off the top of my head are the 1sec immunities on sikran and 1sec immunity/evasion first boss necrotic

[quiet oar]

The 1 second full immunity

i always forget

[balmy condor]

but other than those two idk anything weird

I guess the water circles last boss siege you have to pre-feint

[glacial stump]

Is it a bug with envenom randomly dropping off?

[balmy condor]

that got fixed a while ago, do you have a log

[glacial stump]

gets to like 4s then, GONE

yeah

[subtle tundra]

🤨

[glacial stump]

I'm shit at reading logs. Just hopped back on my rogue, did a random ovinax pughttps://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/A8LBg1RZmqnkFvjC?fight=28&type=damage-done

[quiet oar]

WoW has a good track record on reintroducing bugs

[subtle tundra]

any time stamp

[glacial stump]

Swear it kept dropping off, though idk what to look for on logs

gimme a sec

[balmy condor]

I found it

dw

[glacial stump]

Excuse the awful gameplay

It was like 2nd egg breaks i noticed it i think, right hand side

[balmy condor]

yeh this is the old bug

nice

[glacial stump]

Happened a good few times

[subtle tundra]

nice 3 second duration envenom buffs

loser

[balmy condor]

be like that

[subtle tundra]

ermmm

[balmy condor]

just don't bug

ez

[glacial stump]

idk how to do that 🥲

[balmy condor]

so like

if your envenom is going to bug

tell it not to

[glacial stump]

ahhh right, got you

[quiet oar]

Easiest way to not have the Bug, is not playing

[glacial stump]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-gif-27108854

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718

[subtle tundra]

👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨

[runic hinge]

Easiest way to not bug is hug

[quiet oar]

[sudden kelp]

Is it ok to just spam garrote and rupture on your main target to spread bleeds with indiscriminate carnage? Or should you try to tab around?

[subtle tundra]

yea thats fine

not a big loss

and losing your target would be even more of a loss

or being slow with retargeting

[sudden kelp]

Cool, thanks.

[charred wraith]

i assume cloaking and running into elem on 3d boss in GB will still put dot on everyone else yes?

[blazing pumice]

the optimal setup would be to mouseover target the other mobs

tabbing is bad

[tight compass]

the debuff used to "fixate you" is removed by cloak, so if you use cloak be aware that it will instantly target one of your team mates instead of you, so be sure they are aware this will happen before you do it ^^

[dawn heath]

does numbing poison work on bosses?

duengon bosses

[balmy condor]

attack speed yes cast speed no

it works like curse of weakness

[dawn heath]

ah

[spice surge]

Cast speed usually no but sometimes things are bugged so it works anyway

Like ruby life pools first boss had its aoe pulse cast time increased

[glacial stump]

Think it might be dracthyr rogue time

[dawn seal]

hey guys

can anyone help me with a cpu question

how do u check if ur motherboard supports a certain cpu

[vestal wren]

[quiet oar]

You look up the CPU

and look at the

this is for 7800x3d for example

[dawn seal]

oh

hm

[quiet oar]

And then you check, what chipset your Mainboard has

[dawn seal]

oh

I am very confused and lost

and chat gpt is scaring me

[quiet oar]

huh?

What CPU do you want

[dawn seal]

I want 5700x3d

I have 5600

my motherboard is B450M-HDV r4.0

Asrock

[random drum]

google your motherboard, check the socket

compare

[dawn seal]

some people say it might require a bios update

[random drum]

potentially

thats putting it on a flashdrive, booting into BIOS, and clicking a button tho

[dawn seal]

yes I know that one

thanks for the help

[quiet oar]

Should work

Both have b450 chipset

[worldly sail]

protip is to use pcpartpicker.com, and make a build with those parts. It gives warnings about that kind of stuff

(what was already said above)

[dawn seal]

ohh

yeah

[gusty mirage]

+1 for pcpartpicker

Saved me a headache with my RAM

[supple spindle]

and how often do you upgrade you pc's guys?

or it's a feel thing?

[subtle tundra]

i wonder if i can... fit a 5070ti in my current build

to replace a 1060 LOL

cause if i can im buying it

[woven shore]

Thats crazy

[balmy condor]

an item or two every 2-3 generations

[random drum]

The only thing id say going from a 1060, to a anything new, is you may absolutely run into power issues

[woven shore]

Buy a 3080ti and your good

[random drum]

there has been HUGE increases in power consumption since 10 series

[subtle tundra]

my power supply is like 13 yo

😊

[random drum]

I mean age doesnt matter, but if you bought a 1k+ power supply 13 years ago. thats fine

[supple spindle]

yeah sounds about right, you definitely should spend your savings

[random drum]

most people dont just buy like 850-1k PSUs

[woven shore]

Monster hunter wild coming out i REALLY cant wait to play on medium graphics bc otherwise my pc will explode XD

[subtle tundra]

yeah i cant tell you what it is, i was around 10

i wanna buy 5070ti but i dont want to change every part of my pc

that would be too expensive

[random drum]

The slot should be fine, should be PCIE for the card, my only thoughts would be case space, Wattage

[subtle tundra]

yeah case space is an issue

but thats not very expensive

[dawn seal]

[subtle tundra]

and probably a cooler would be in order

[woven shore]

Varas

[supple spindle]

i mean, does not cpu needs to be compatible with gpu as well?

[subtle tundra]

hi

[woven shore]

Go on Pc Help Hub discord and ask my boys there

[subtle tundra]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xvq3mC
this are the things i know and matter

[woven shore]

They can tell you exactly if u can or not or what youd need to replace

[dawn seal]

oh

[woven shore]

My graphic card broke and they helped me
So i knew i could replace it with a 4060

[subtle tundra]

i legit cant buy 4k series

cause there are none available except at double the price

[worldly sail]

its ok.. you can buy a 5070.. and get 4090 performance..

[golden loom]

sounds like you could run into some bottlenecking depending on how good ur cpu is

[random drum]

Yea I mean looking at it, I'd def figure out your PSU Wattage and PINs available on it. other than that I'd think it would be fine. if it fits in your case

[subtle tundra]

ok? and?

[random drum]

and yea an i5 might bottleneck

[subtle tundra]

4090 isnt cheap

[worldly sail]

it was a joke about nvidia lying about 5070 performance

[supple spindle]

why do people flame on dlss so much?

[subtle tundra]

i saw 5070 sucky but 5070ti kinda ok

i need dlss if i wanna game tarkov

lol

[supple spindle]

i mean, neural generated frames are still frames as long as the frame itself is not highly distorted

[subtle tundra]

if its like 5 frames a second split between 55, you wont notice it

[balmy condor]

dlss is strange cause the input lag is the same or worse

it just makes fake frames

but it's not like

doing anything really

[dawn seal]

okei I ordered my new cpu

[supple spindle]

gz gz

[subtle tundra]

i dont think DLSS is supposed to double your frames, its just to make it look smooth

[golden loom]

I am glad I havent ran into any of the intel 14 series issues, wouldve made me angry to spend a lot on a new pc and it just brick

[balmy condor]

like if you're getting 20 fps and it feels like shit, the only thing dlss will do is make it visually not look like 20 fps, but it'll still feel like shit

cause now your game is actually running at like 18 fps

[dawn seal]

I am geting 20 fps

[supple spindle]

well, seeing that tech is leaning into ai stuff, i think there will be time when half of the frames are ai generated

[dawn seal]

can low frames cause performance issues

like class performance

or is it coping

on a class like a mage

[golden loom]

I mean if ur playing on 20 fps ur not playing the game

[balmy condor]

you'd be shit at mechanics long before you're shit at your class

[subtle tundra]

i hate game devs now abandoning performance optimization

[dawn seal]

I am doing every mechanic perfectly

am I a god

[golden loom]

you are watching a powerpoint presentation

[subtle tundra]

shit is getting ridiculous

[supple spindle]

ue 5 was a mistake

[balmy condor]

also TWW runs insanely smooth idk

[dawn seal]

wha

I never had frame issues in df

[supple spindle]

delulu

[dawn seal]

must be tww

[balmy condor]

mfers will be running elvui with 4 plugins and animated raid frames with 900 wa's installed, a custom details skin and 400 plater mods

and then bitch about frames

[dawn seal]

I deleted

everythin yesterday

[golden loom]

base UI users keep on winning

[dawn seal]

made major pruning

I had 30 fps on heroic kyveza

[supple spindle]

with all the guild warband stuff at the start-mid of the season it was kinda bonkers

[dawn seal]

😭

idk maybe I made a harsh decision about buying new cpu

[balmy condor]

I get like 140 in town

and maybe 95-100 in raid

idk

[dawn seal]

I should have maybe double thought about it

I have ryzen 5600

is it really that bad

[supple spindle]

yeah no, fps in town is fine

[manic quartz]

145 sitting in town dornogal rn

[supple spindle]

fps in raid is cooked, especially on queen

[balmy condor]

[dawn seal]

I have 60 on dornogal

[golden loom]

on 30 man maybe

but on 20man its completlty fine

[dawn seal]

150 on anywhere not dornogal

50-90 on dungeons

[balmy condor]

yeah maybe in LFR on max visuals

[dawn seal]

30 on raids

[worldly sail]

whispyr what cpu do you have

[supple spindle]

whispyr when do we kiss gently

[golden loom]

[balmy condor]

7800x3d and a 3080ti

[worldly sail]

x3d abusers saying game runs smooth

[manic quartz]

r7 5800x 3080ti

[worldly sail]

i need x3d

[balmy condor]

skill issue

[supple spindle]

is amd actually good?

[dawn seal]

oh

I heard

x3d is the core

bigger memory is important

was that a lie

or someone told me truth

[worldly sail]

amd is wiping intel

[balmy condor]

better than a melted intel

[golden loom]

AMD is kinda smoking intel now right? I didnt know it when I built my new pc tho kek

[worldly sail]

but watch as intel starts wiping the GPU market

clown world

[balmy condor]

yeah surely

surely intel just catches up on 30 years of driver support

[worldly sail]

any day now

[supple spindle]

idk, my father implanted in me the idea of amd sucking huge girthy compared to intel

[balmy condor]

I mean to be fair

[golden loom]

AMD used to be shit

[supple spindle]

i still stick by it, but i did not bother checking otherwise

[worldly sail]

well like 10-15 years ago intel was the giga winner

[balmy condor]

your father would've been correct 20 years ago

[supple spindle]

so if i would to build a new pc, amd is the go to?

[balmy condor]

atm ye

[golden loom]

I've built 3 PCs in my life, first had an i5 2500k (goated), second had a i5 8400 (very very very mid) and now the third has an i9 14900k which so far is cracked but hopefully it does not melt

[random drum]

IDK I just have PTSD from working QA for games testing shit, I never had more issues with drivers, and one CPU literally catching electric fire in the year I worked there. AMD susge

[balmy condor]

okay but you had one cpu catching fire

and intel has been a self-contained 800C fire for the last 3 generations

so

[golden loom]

my 2500k also caught fire cause I tried to overclock it to 4 GHz with stock cooling

[balmy condor]

checkmate

[golden loom]

got a replacement for free tho somehow

[supple spindle]

currently i have this stone and i cannot say im not satisfied with it

[golden loom]

but to be fair I was 13 years old and heard about how cool overclocking was

ofc I had to try

[random drum]

I mean catching fire is a freak incident regardless. but the amount of compat issues and stuff I had and variety of drivers tested ( given this was 2016 strictly on EA titles ) it was always AMD that had more issues.

[balmy condor]

or EA

[random drum]

I mean I dont disagree

whole company caught fire after Battlefront release

[balmy condor]

I mean that was also 10 years ago amd

which was bad

[random drum]

ive heard good thing since Ryzen, ive just been skeptical to put it into practice personally

[balmy condor]

I stepped over to a 3800x

was happy

stayed amd

[random drum]

literally wheres the meme 1s

me when I worked at EA lmao

Intel, ooh lemee try amd, oh fuck

[dawn seal]

whispyr would u death mark intell or amd

or blizzard

[balmy condor]

I wouldn't deathmark anything, I am famously tranquil and peaceful

[dawn seal]

ohh

makes sense

[supple spindle]

and sexy

[balmy condor]

I would never do anything mean ever in the history of everything

[supple spindle]

famously ofc

[dawn seal]

[balmy condor]

famously yes

well known whispyr personality trait -> not mean

[supple spindle]

and sexy

[balmy condor]

yes sure

and that

[royal lantern]

wanna see some m+ logs?

[balmy condor]

okay I take it back

I would deathmark tryan

[normal mist]

Ahahahahahha

https://tenor.com/view/absolutecinema-ratgorr-moonguide-ratgorrmoonguide-gif-2036130959444363201

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/garrosh-hellscream-world-of-warcraft-hello-chat-walk-in-orc-gif-27318984

[royal lantern]

im important enough for a CD

[balmy condor]

you're prio target

[supple spindle]

tbh i'd spatter on your ass

respectfully

[balmy condor]

dawg

[normal mist]

He said what he said

[dawn seal]

[zenith elm]

How do we feel about s2 ?

[dawn seal]

like a god

[zenith elm]

Noice

Being a main assa in S1, lets continue in S2 then 🫡

[humble verge]

turned 24 today

[humble verge]

surely our spec will still be good

[zenith elm]

What a relief to read haha

[subtle tundra]

happy

FUCKING

bIRThdaY

[royal lantern]

no changes

soooooooooo

🔮

[humble verge]

thank you mr gamer

[zenith elm]

Happy cake day

[rare jackal]

classic andys got their wish #nochanges

[zenith elm]

I love my rogue, so i hope at least one spec is good 🫡

[subtle tundra]

usually is

and when there isnt any, we get buffs

hasnt been any tier with rogue bad through the whole tier

[humble verge]

this is NOT reddit

but thanks

[humble verge]

true

there will always be one spec ATLEAST in the middle of the tree

[balmy condor]

right, we gotta do our own special thing

[subtle tundra]

happy humpday?

[balmy condor]

good job turning older man

hope it sucks

[humble verge]

yeah

i literally dropped out of uni

[subtle tundra]

dang

[balmy condor]

damn so your gift to yourself for your birthday is being a loser

[subtle tundra]

today?

[balmy condor]

nice

[humble verge]

well

[balmy condor]

is this better than reddit

[humble verge]

over time tbh

kinda given up

[zenith elm]

Happy giving up day

[subtle tundra]

once i start some shit, i finish that shit 💦

[humble verge]

but im trade certified in IT

so im thinking about going back

also, is like everyone playing dwarf nowadays

[subtle tundra]

no

[limber dagger]

does anyone have a general rogue poison WA?

[humble verge]

as in "YOUR POISONS ARE GOING OUT IDIOT"?

[balmy condor]

https://wago.io/search/imports/wow/all?q=Poison%2Breminder

Pick your favorite

[limber dagger]

preeetty much

[limber dagger]

well i was looking for one that works for all specs and keeps talents in mind for assa so i was hoping for reccomendations

cause im too lazy to make one myself

[normal mist]

Bro congrats, I was too... 6 years ago. It only gets worse from here

[spice spire]

Old

[dawn seal]

do u guys have any chinese rogue copy pastas

like mages have stuff like this

dalaran gone 炸成碎片炸成碎片 great magician wheelchair 永遠不會恢復 arcane nerfs 為什麼暴雪為什麼 when to press the barrage 我應該只使用微弱的光環嗎 martyr of warcraft 讓魔法師變強

[fresh kelp]

pistol goes boom boom boom 手槍砰砰砰 infinite power無限的力量great shame for family對家人來說是極大的恥辱banned by heavenly decree被天命所禁止would do it again會再做一次

[spice spire]

No Chinese

But

Season 3 will be open soon. Beginning that week every Everbloom key shall belong to me. It holds an excellent trinket. It is beneficial for the raid that I obtain this trinket(preferably with leech or avoidance). As I am the main character, it is vital that I get this. It is on this week there will be drastic measures:

☑️ If you have an Everbloom keystone, you will be stalked.
☑️ If you can trade witherbark’s branch, you will be stalked.
☑️ If you are being stalked, you will be further stalked.

You will not be safe from me. I will find you, and make you run your keystone. There is no escape.

There is 1 month (maybe) until your fates are sealed. Please cry before then, as crying will slow down our mandatory Everbloom Keystone Dungeon run speed.

I will be posting this every day.

[dawn seal]

ohh

[willow falcon]

it felt good to have that trinket in iirc second vault of the season and it felt equally bad to play with it for the reminder of the season

although if i think about transmitter i'm longing for branch

[spice spire]

Real

I never played branch

[minor finch]

Is sin still bugged in ptr feel like I see no rogues

[balmy condor]

Until there’s a pin saying it’s fixed, it’s not fixed

[minor finch]

Damn what’s broken bro?

[balmy condor]

The tier

[minor finch]

Cool cool. Not important stuff

[balmy condor]

Cause the pin… where it says it’s bugged to shit and super weak

[minor finch]

What tier not get fixed but sin get buffed x amount

[balmy condor]

Sin itself has had 0 lines of changes

[minor finch]

I read the pin I just wanted you to tell me face to face

[balmy condor]

The tier is the only thing we have that’s different to this season

[minor finch]

And also saw the 0 lines of changes throughout the weeks

[nova aspen]

his name should be pretty obvious as to if the bug is fixed yet

[balmy condor]

Well then you know everything

[royal lantern]

btw whisp, would you say that the priory trinket is now better then house of cards

cus of the cd change

[minor finch]

lol that sucks. Feel like rogue is being idk sucky for a reason heard outlaw does tank dmg outside of one dgn. Sin is broke and sub

We don’t talk about sub

[balmy condor]

Dunno, maybe

[nova aspen]

to be fair, vdh dmg is nuts atm

on ptr*

[balmy condor]

Yeh outlaw is a bit weak but on the other hand outlaw also hasn’t gotten tuning outside of one buff to their tier

So

Just gotta wait another 4-6 weeks

[lusty kraken]

Looks like it’s going to be another assa season assuming they only buff the tier set

[minor finch]

Heard vdh is bugged for good

Unlike bugs that kill tier sets. @balmy condor thanks for the update

[balmy condor]

You mean sub season

[nova aspen]

^

sub tier juicy

[lusty kraken]

Sub? I thought they suffered from weak aoe

[balmy condor]

[golden loom]

sub aoe has gotten buffed a lot hasnt it

[spice surge]

In theory

[balmy condor]

They played sub on ansurek during the race because of add damage

[nova aspen]

[gusty mirage]

let me consult my resident sub guy

@spice surge did they fix the sub tier set and/or sub aoe

[spice surge]

Nothing wrong with subs aoe

[lusty kraken]

Then why is it not meta in m+?

[gusty mirage]

TELL EM ROB

[spice surge]

Because assa does 3% more

[minor finch]

Is it still spam smoke bombs bought from your local firework stand?

[gusty mirage]

how come not meta if nothing wrong

[lusty kraken]

Nah no way that’s the reason

[nova aspen]

bigger number neuron activated

[balmy condor]

Shiiii you right m+ players would never be weird as shit

[minor finch]

Tier list say sub poo

All hail tier list

[subtle tundra]

Hi

[balmy condor]

It’s not like all the assa players swap sub for bosses already or something

[gusty mirage]

you're one of the more normal ones

think about that for a second

[subtle tundra]

👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨

Think

No thanks

[pure moth]

sin players, normal?

[lusty kraken]

Sub requires less setup to do aoe damage, I assume that’s the reason it was played for ansurek prog

[balmy condor]

Sometimes I open the channel and varas isn’t even being reasonable, he’s just downright being correct and accurate in his based takes

[spice surge]

In the same way assa is just spam caustic spatter yes

[balmy condor]

That’s how you know assa mplussers are fucked

[lusty kraken]

Sub is not bad at all for raiding

[subtle tundra]

It so happens that I'm cool

[lusty kraken]

But assa demolishes sub in m+

At least in aoe

[spice surge]

Not really in overall

[lusty kraken]

In st everything beats assa

[golden loom]

well sins aoe setup in raid is pressing your standard buttons

[spice surge]

Sure assa is higher

But its absolutely not demolishing

[balmy condor]

I mean it also just did like 25% more add damage regardless of whatever setup thing you’re coping about

[subtle tundra]

What add...

I'm confuse

[lusty kraken]

Sub does burst aoe damage, that’s what I’m saying

[balmy condor]

Assa does that too

[royal lantern]

all i needed to know, will just check wowhead when patch launches 👍

[minor finch]

Hey Alexa what is raiding?

Thought wow was m+?

[gusty mirage]

Raiding is what imma do to @subtle tundra 's booty later tonight

[golden loom]

m+ is a silly little minigame on the side

[balmy condor]

That’s what the lower half of the population as measured by IQ will tell you

[subtle tundra]

🤫

[royal lantern]

ayo, quake hacke the acc

[minor finch]

lol sorry knew I was going to get a couple people lol

[gusty mirage]

ngl I read this in a stereotypically bad italian accent

QUAK-A HACK-A THE ACCOUNT-AH

[royal lantern]

[minor finch]

Little mini game that developers base specs around but yeah who cares

[balmy condor]

They have Italians in Michigan? Where would you have learned that

[spice surge]

None of them being remotely italian just makes it better

[gusty mirage]

of course

wtf

[subtle tundra]

Michigan style pizza

[balmy condor]

Itsa way too colda

[gusty mirage]

I agree itsa way too colda

[minor finch]

Luigi whata do youa mean the pipea is frozen?

[royal lantern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392807916543017000/1334892671801626736/475439816_919592857037114_102558972790111306_n.png?ex=679e2f2e&is=679cddae&hm=d1df60dbffdb80172943b55ed8c03f546b964608bbdc9e8c41c39e2a6350f8c5&

whats your rat mood

[golden loom]

pancake

[royal lantern]

im wary rat

[balmy condor]

Why don’t we take the way too colda and put it on top of Los Angeles and then we can all take some of their heat and then everyone’s at a nice room temp

[minor finch]

You fixed global warming holy shit

[balmy condor]

I prefer to call it climate change, but when I’m president no it won’t

No more wind

We’re banning wind

Low pressure? High pressure? What is this a job interview? Getting rid of that

[nova aspen]

when whisp becoems president, executive order to force blizz to make rogue great again

[balmy condor]

The whole country will just be a permanent 68 degrees year round

[nova aspen]

[spice surge]

No sir this is your doctor speaking to you about your blood pressure

[balmy condor]

I’m gonna give blizzard government money to make a world of Warcraft: classic where it’s just the regular game but all rogues

[radiant raven]

wary rat

[nova aspen]

rogues only

perfectly balanced

[balmy condor]

My blood pressures me just fine ty

[gusty mirage]

you got my vote

[solar wyvern]

"mr president... The servers have gone rogue"

[balmy condor]

You got my vore too

[balmy condor]

This should be a ban

[solar wyvern]

LOL

[vagrant knot]

Hi I'm looking for help regarding enchants. For example main weapon enchant.
Using raidbots it says I should use Authority of the Depths. Ask mr robots says Stormriders Fury, and the wowhead guide says Authority of Radiant Power.
Any advice?

[hollow river]

ask mr robot

[balmy condor]

[vagrant knot]

That bad?

[balmy condor]

Amr hasn’t been good since like cata

Now they’re just a defunct ad farm

But in general always trust your sims over generic recommendations as long as you understand why it’s recommending it

Depths is a single target enchant, so it’ll suck in aoe

Power is more rounded, etc

[humble verge]

ok so just curious but you guys think im trolling using r2 cons for pushing keys

[vagrant knot]

Yeah the target was raid

[balmy condor]

Storm riders is, an enchant

Raid still has a lot of aoe

On most fights

[fresh kelp]

best groups do 20s, you can prob do whatever key level you're attempting with 200 less secondary stat

[velvet cairn]

hi guys, is asendence better or dawnthread? i saw on logs around 90% is using asendence

[dawn seal]

sim

[velvet cairn]

i mean whats the general opinion not numericly

[nova aspen]

u answered that question

"around 90% is using asendence"

[spice spire]

Most people just crafted ascendency early because it was a 636 weapon

Simming is your best bet unironically here

[nova aspen]

prime minister of big Dong

[velvet cairn]

ahh i see thanks

[spice surge]

But also it unironically doesnt matter

Embellishments are very very weak and not impactful

[agile wedge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[spice surge]

Overall theyre each worth around 15-20 ilvls on a shitty slot like bracers

[final star]

I LOVE BEANS

[radiant raven]

same

[spice spire]

Surely not on toast

[subtle tundra]

I do potions for m+

Unless it's a tight timer kind of deal

Or important potion pulls

Like mists first boss

Or dawn breaker

[final star]

exclusively on toast

[spice spire]

I’m going to say a slur

[golden loom]

time to swap over to outlaw I guess

[soft shale]

nice cold bloods you got there fam

[dawn seal]

are u playing

gamba

hero talent

boyx

[golden loom]

nah was just a joke since I got thunderfury, fuck outlaw

[dawn seal]

[spice spire]

That’s uwucutegirl to you bucko

[dawn seal]

no

he is in my bnet friendlist

prime minister of big demise

his bnet name is boyx

so to me he is boyx we go way back

I met him in a queen run

[golden loom]

cant change it to uwucutegirl unfortunately

[dawn seal]

quakes new name is so cool tho

I freakin love it

[spice spire]

New name is a big meme

Half my names are

[dawn seal]

oh

[spice spire]

[golden loom]

so I am stuck with a name I stole from a friend when I was 10

[dawn seal]

whats the meöe

[spice spire]

All bleed build.
Pop skardyns for big demise

20m executes

[dawn seal]

[spice spire]

I will spread the propaganda

[dawn seal]

does it work

[spice spire]

It does

But it’s not good

[dawn seal]

ahaha

[spice spire]

It’s funny though

[dawn seal]

is twist the knife build a thing

quake

somefin like this

for m+

I think I saw a build like this somewhere

is it like prio damage

[golden loom]

nah thats shit

[dawn seal]

[spice spire]

Missing two important parts

Caustic? Miss me w that need internal

And sudden demise my goat

[dawn seal]

[golden loom]

drop that kingsbane shit also 😵‍💫

[dawn seal]

LMAO

[golden loom]

Zoldyck gang

[dawn seal]

isnt that from hunter x hunter

anime

wow stole it from

[humble verge]

im just rolling 16/17s

[spice spire]

It is

[dawn seal]

this is mental I am rejected from 7's

[marsh storm]

Question, anyone know a good trick/macro for shadowstepping to a player, for like the ansurek portal stuff? atm i'm awkwardly selecting some guy i can see and step

[golden loom]

you can make a focus macro and then set a mage as focus target

[marsh storm]

how does a focus macro work exactly? You set a focus on a player like tricks?

[subtle tundra]

you saw this from casual in dawnbreaker

[dawn seal]

[fresh kelp]

personally im cutting costs and doing r3 flask but r2 pots at that level

[golden loom]

you have to bind focus also I guess, its like a secondary target

[dawn seal]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[fresh kelp]

but im a brokie so

[subtle tundra]

that build drops a bit of aoe for a bit of st

its just some preference

doesnt matter

[golden loom]

like personally I just have this

[spice surge]

Dashing is mostly feels, its not particularly better than SD and a lot worse in aoe

[dawn seal]

[spice surge]

But the supercharger+2lethality is fine

[humble verge]

idk r3 and r2 flasks feel non significant

[subtle tundra]

supercharger+2lethality is mostly a high key thing

[humble verge]

how high tho

im still running double vanish

[subtle tundra]

its all relative to dps

[humble verge]

i feel i need to in terms of pugs

[subtle tundra]

the lower the combat timer in aoe -> the better subterfuge is

more MA uptime

kinda thing

[dawn seal]

do I ever press or use the ovinax trinket

or am I omega griefing by not even checkin its stacks elt alone using it

[humble verge]

like

making ovi trinket usuable is hard

[subtle tundra]

i play it and never look at it

[humble verge]

sometimes

[subtle tundra]

i dont fucking care

[dawn seal]

same

[subtle tundra]

if looking at the trinket once and dying cause of it

[golden loom]

were you a sacbrood hater varas

[subtle tundra]

i was when i was looking at it

if i ever make a mistake cause im minmaxing the trinket

[humble verge]

youre still running double vanish in 18s varas?

[subtle tundra]

then its not worth

depends on dungeon

mostly not

cause nowadays i know the route perfectly

in every dungeon

[crisp rapids]

is there any trick to increase caustic spatter dmg share in m+? mine isnt that great so I made it a point to really tunnel on uptime but even then its not that high

[golden loom]

what key levels are you doing?

[crisp rapids]

like 10s

maybe 11s on occasion

[golden loom]

same, do feel like at this point in the season packs are kind of getting 1 shot before you can truly ramp some spatter damage

but it should still be top 2 with CT

[humble verge]

just run bleedmaxxing

at 10s then

[golden loom]

oh my god my loginscreen looks so good now

[spice spire]

I hate your names I’m ngl

Whatthesigma I cannot

[storm forum]

UwU

[golden loom]

its a demonhunter that I dont play outside of transmog content

[spice spire]

My names all follow the same naming scheme

Except the lock and Paladin

[golden loom]

anything that looks better here then

[spice spire]

Freakywarr

Need that

[golden loom]

wanted to lvl an arms warrior but idk it wasnt as fun as fury

[spice spire]

Arms is the gentleman’s spec

[golden loom]

i want to play the adhd spam buttons that light up spec

[spice spire]

Play prot then

Until like

Next month

[golden loom]

got the scizo project in the works aswell

[hollow river]

it gets better at max lvl

i only really leveled my warr as fury, but tried arms at 80 and it was fun

[spice spire]

Arms and prot are fun

Always been a fury hater

[golden loom]

I love fury

[hollow river]

i enjoy fury as well

i've never truly given playing any tank a chance ngl

[spice spire]

Damn ig were opps

[hollow river]

prot warr/pal and bdk would prolly be fun

[spice spire]

I like both prots and bdk

Lmfao

Yeah that’s what I like

[hollow river]

i could never see myself playing brew or bear

[golden loom]

never even tried to tank

[spice spire]

Beer is too slow

Brew is a lot and miss me w that

And dh is just

Funky

[hollow river]

yeah vdh sounds mid

[golden loom]

havoc is also very weird idk

[hollow river]

especially if they still collect the little purple shits

miss me with that

[spice spire]

Not a fan of Dh cureently

I’ve played and liked vengeance and havoc in the past

I’ve not liked havoc since 9.2 tho

[golden loom]

something with the dash and whatever just feels unsmooth when in theory it should be this mega smooth and mobile class idk

[hollow river]

the only fun part about DH

is fel rush and flying around

the class is just too edgy i've never liked it

[golden loom]

double jump and glide slaps

fel rush feels weird in combat

maybe skill issue tho

[dawn seal]

my first c haracter was a b ald gnome

named my full real name

[dawn seal]

[hollow river]

?

[dawn seal]

😭

rogue is an edgy class

whats wrong with edgy

[golden loom]

compared to demon hunter

[dawn seal]

[slate crown]

that's very presidential of you

[golden loom]

rogue is not edgy

[dawn seal]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-absolute-cinema-gif-8932131737123141805

[dawn seal]

thank u

[hollow river]

eh

[dawn seal]

[hollow river]

not terribly so

compared to dh or even dk

[spice spire]

Is your irl name not lisonna ensconced (I won’t reveal the bdk name)

[slate crown]

DH: LOOK AT MY SCARS

[spice spire]

me irl

[dawn seal]

I am my scars

[golden loom]

DK is lowkey not that edgy

[slate crown]

I'm so sorry but I'm glad that I got to be the one to tell you.

It's best you hear from me

[spice spire]

Ok

I’m ready

[dawn seal]

I think holy priest is the edgiest spec

[slate crown]

Alright my full IRL name is ||https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/1080572530554835072||

[spice spire]

Wth

[slate crown]

Do you feel cheated?

Abused?

Robbed?

[spice spire]

I bet you’d like that you sick fuck

[lofty junco]

@slate crownbtw since we finished the profession talk, how is assa in the current state of the game? like i said i just returned, and played last time at the end of DF with that world tree raid

and if not in a good state, then are combat/sub actualy better?

every since legion and their combat rework i mainly played assa

[slate crown]

NGL fam I appreciate you but I'll defer to others in this channel to answer the spec questions. I'm too washed up to talk about the current state of the game confidently or responsibly

And I mostly play sub nowadays

not because it's better

but because I like it

[golden loom]

Assa very good in raid and m+ 👍

[slate crown]

I also like assa but I like sub more rn

[spice spire]

Bottom behavior

Assassination is in a good spot in general tho

Highly recommend

[slate crown]

No ping on reply: real subby behavior ngl

[spice surge]

Takes one to know one

[spice spire]

Didn’t realize courtesy was bottom behavior Smdh

[royal lantern]

@slate crown im a AH genius

wanted to buy 150 stormdust for enchants

bought 150 tinderboxes instead

200k down the drain

[slate crown]

beeg brain

[royal lantern]

[slate crown]

how did that happen

[royal lantern]

idk, brain off and clicked the wrong thing

"need 3 boxes and 150 dust"->went to box and typed 150

[slate crown]

[lofty junco]

Oh no problem. And I appreciate the crafting help

[royal lantern]

well, allready could sell a couple

and if they dont sell

eh

can use them for enchants for the rest of the expansion

[slate crown]

I mean if there's one thing about tinderboxes

[royal lantern]

i gues

[slate crown]

is that they sell

[ember mural]

Hold for s2 imo

[royal lantern]

[slate crown]

so you can probably mostly recover

[royal lantern]

ye

[slate crown]

just at 5% down

[royal lantern]

and like

the remaining ones? just tuurn into radiant power

cus thats what i do anyway

[lofty junco]

So where exactly stands assa or rogue in general?

Meta aka easy to find m+ and raid?

[royal lantern]

rn assa is strong in both

1 of the "not the solid in stone but still played very often" specs in m+, all 3 rogue specs are doing numbers in raid

[lofty junco]

https://tenor.com/view/elaborate-gif-27637853

doN't rly understand that one quote

[spice spire]

All 3 rogue specs are strong in raid

And there’s a flex spot in m+.
Assassination is often filling that spot

Could be fdk

Boomie or mage

[lofty junco]

so m+ is still has their fixed classes except 1 flex spot?

[spice spire]

Generally

But not always.
This is also like top top end keys

Usually ends up being disc, prot paly, enhancement shaman, Aug and x.
But there’s augless runs as well

[royal lantern]

the 3 set in stone spots in high level m+ rn are: prot paladin, enh shaman, augvoker, disc priest, 1 spot is flex

assassination is 1 of the specs that is often used in the flex spot

[lofty junco]

did they buff enhancer to the moon?

[royal lantern]

enh shaman is stupid strong for the last 4 tiers now lol

[spice spire]

Enhance is very very strong because it provides st and aoe

[royal lantern]

wow players are just notorious slow to notice that stuff

[spice spire]

In keys

[royal lantern]

rn is just stronger then it normaly allready was

[lofty junco]

and raid wise for rogue in general?

[royal lantern]

rogue good

but tbh, in raids you have your class spot anyway

[lofty junco]

?

[royal lantern]

so numbers matter less

[royal lantern]

raid buffs/debuffs

[normal mist]

Aka they want 1 rogue

[royal lantern]

you want all 14 classes once

[normal mist]

for our debuff

[lofty junco]

I'm pretty sure it wasn't that way in DF

[royal lantern]

it was

[normal mist]

it was

Tryan 🤝 Royal

[royal lantern]

when the 2 braincells combine

[lofty junco]

wasnt it that u could jsut replace buffs/debuffs with another class or had rogue something unreplaceable?

[storm forum]

Raids havent been melee unfriendly recently too, so if you have good rogues, you can play two or three rogues and it's not nuts.

[normal mist]

we have Damage reduction

from a poison

[royal lantern]

they had scrolls for 2 expansions and removed them

[lofty junco]

ohh

[royal lantern]

scrolls didnt exist since SL end

[royal lantern]

i can gurantee you that stacking melee dps is not really a big thing

[lofty junco]

yeah i remember. we probably had too many rogues that i never noticed it

[storm forum]

We technically have 2 raid buffs but the cast speed slow is so minor it doesn't seem to matter

[royal lantern]

its only a attack speed slow in raids, and 3 classes have those (and warlock/dk have it baseline)

[fallow canopy]

unless its ky'veza

[lofty junco]

and for both m+ and raid, does it matter what spec u play?

[normal mist]

not really

[lofty junco]

i prefer assa, but wanted to be sure

[royal lantern]

for 99% no

[normal mist]

º~º

^ it was my cat

LOL

[royal lantern]

"what is the best" only matters if you play at the absolute highest level

aka, m+ in the ~+15 and higher range, and for raiding if you go for WR100 and higher

but at that point you play those things anyway really

[storm forum]

M+ all the specs have pros and cons depending on what the dungeon/comp needs (also some people are legit playing all 3 specs in the same dungeon). In raid it's basically the same. All the specs are viable and you can play what you're comfortable with.

[lofty junco]

then, does assa play similiar or same to end of DF? or different?

[abstract steppe]

Sheesh, all 3 specs in one dungeon. Crazy stuff.

[normal mist]

id say basically the same shit

[storm forum]

We play mostly the same. I think we pool less and sometimes only play with 1 shiv instead of 2.

[royal lantern]

clean ilvl number achieved

[normal mist]

not a round number

[storm forum]

Post the log, it's funny af

[royal lantern]

ye, basically the same gameplay

[sharp viper]

only in bag but not equipped 😦

[royal lantern]

small differences cus of hero talents, but thats it

[royal lantern]

cant equip the 2nd dagger, cus of embelishments :c

[clear silo]

hello guys i just swapped on assa to push my rio a bit higehr currently i am close to 3.2 as outlaw because i jsut prefered the playstyle much more. I watched a few youtube guides but they are not convincing me so i got a few things in my mind about an aoe situation;

• so lets say we have NW First Pull with like 20-25 mobs, do we have a max number we want to apply rupture and garrote add ? for example only only use rupture on 7 mobs.
• do you guys reapply rupture and crimson tempest on mobs who we about to die ? Because of Sudden Demise ?
• on how many targets do i want to put Caustic Spatter in a giga aoe situation ? do we tab target and use mutilate ?

[normal mist]

you can only put caustic in 1 target

you want at least 5 ruptures out and a bunch of garrotes out with IC too

[abstract steppe]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/am7ncqDMQrFLhNC1?boss=12662&difficulty=10&wipes=1 only 2 specs but close enough.

[storm forum]

In mass AoE, you only need to put up enough bleeds to be saturated on energy, after that, maintain CT and pump envs into your spatter target

[normal mist]

@subtle tundra this is a good question for you

[royal lantern]

@slate crown ok, it allready sells back

[storm forum]

Yeah but the NW one makes my "each spec has its niche" point better.

[slate crown]

Yeh they're very frequent flyers

[clear silo]

actually i can get the 10 sec caustic spatter on all targets if i jsut use mutilate on them all or is it not working ? the dbuff appears on their life bar

[storm forum]

Assa uncapped AoE in the starting pull, OL as a tanky spec that has great low target cleave on the first two bosses, and then sub having great timings for the last 2 bosses.

[royal lantern]

isnt outlaw also quiet good boss dmg

idk, only play rogue specs

[storm forum]

Yeah, they give up the least ST for cleave/aoe talents iirc

Which is really good for the first 2 bosses and a bunch of the trash in between

Although "Good prio damage" is like the only thing the three specs have in common.

[clear silo]

sorry foir asking another stupid question: i only use mutilate to apply causstic spatter other than that even on 5 targets i use fan of knives as builder is that correct ?

[storm forum]

Yeah

1 mut every 8(?) Seconds and all other builders should be fan in AoE

[clear silo]

thank you

@normal mist thank you. It was a really great explanation about caustic spatter.

[subtle tundra]

I'm washed

[royal lantern]

no you dont wash

[subtle tundra]

In giga aoe you rupture twice, ct asap and you want to blast caustic

Also why is that a question for me

That's a basic aaa question he doesn't even know how spatter works

[humble verge]

idk if my envenom start is kinda delayed or not

i usually amb, gar, rup, rup, gar, mut, ct, fok, envenom and then standard cd rotaion

sometime i feel like my setup is a bit slow

[normal mist]

not more than me frend D:

[normal mist]

No worries man, glad i could help (somehow)

[normal mist]

Wait i didn't explain how caustic works

[spice spire]

Fired

[normal mist]

I was actually making my GF happy

[hexed frost]

This enhancement did 17M on the first pull of Necrotic Wake while I was still ramping. Jesus Christ dude

Ended the pull with 12M on his dps and 7M on mine.

Man the balance in this game

[subtle tundra]

Then you're ramping too slow

[sharp viper]

https://tenor.com/view/aww-shucks-shy-blush-shucks-stop-it-gif-450409781312727141

[subtle tundra]

By the time the gate keeper is pulled you should've already used a rupture and be ready to use 2nd on it

[hexed frost]

But tempest into primordial is fucking broken beyond saving at this point

[keen spruce]

are you pre-bleeding on gather and sending a vanish to get mark on the gatekeeper or vanguard?

[subtle tundra]

I mean yeah

[keen spruce]

@subtle tundra

or do you play WoT in wake?

[subtle tundra]

Uh I'm playing subterfuge

[keen spruce]

icic

i've been playin both

cant decide what i like better

wire on amarth kinda nice for emergencies tho

and big pull upstairs

[copper sun]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[lofty junco]

enchants are actualy selling? in DF i never got my enchants to sell

[hexed frost]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-huge-yuge-big-gif-9504101

Yeah, I'm running subterfuge so I already have the bleeds running except CT.

Well I would say I was halfway through the ramp but still, 17M is yuuuuuggeee

[keen spruce]

if the key level is low enough and the shaman is big enough

there's nothing you can really do

I normally send all of my shit on the vanguard anyways

cuz gatekeeper dies to f ast even on like 16 or 17

[hexed frost]

It was a +13

[keen spruce]

oh yeah

you're doomed

but also everything dying too fast isn't really a problem worth complaining about

[hexed frost]

Ret Pala is pretty dumb in this regard though, no ramp, just send everything and spam storm

[royal lantern]

weapon enchants are 1 of the best passive gold sources

just make 1 day with concentration and chill

[hexed frost]

I like seeing my big numbers on top of damage meters

[spice spire]

[keen spruce]

the wep enchant pattern still goes for like 130k

[royal lantern]

ngl, all those "omg ret paladin plays so smoth" is so stpid

cus like

the spec is just TOO braindead

even BM hunter has to change their stuff a little bit bettwen aoe and st lol

ret is just "lol slam everything when its up, no matter the order"

[normal mist]

(i was taking care of the housework)

[raven egret]

braindead + all the utility in the world

its silly

[hexed frost]

Like oooooooohhhh I got two three spenders I'm gonnnaaa goooon

[royal lantern]

like, there is not even a opportunity cost for spamming divine storm

[spice spire]

Is that what they call it today

[lofty junco]

btw are the "public crafting orders" now better in TWW?

[normal mist]

if there's a thing i enjoy doing before the weekend starts, is taking care of the whole housework, so i can feel good while doing nothing the rest of the weekend

[spice spire]

So real

[normal mist]

yes, you have NPC work orders that can give you knowledge points

[royal lantern]

like imo

[sharp viper]

that is the adult and responsible thing to do

[royal lantern]

stuff like devoker/arms warrior are "good" simple specs

[sharp viper]

but I am neither

[royal lantern]

simple gameplay, easy to follow, but atleast SOME Thinking involved in their st/aoe stuff

[spice spire]

Certain iterations are simple

[royal lantern]

ret is just made absolutely idiot proof

[normal mist]

You're like the cutest here, so you get a free pass

[spice spire]

Ret’s brain power is in its utility

[sharp viper]

https://tenor.com/view/adam-levine-shy-bashful-blushing-hiding-face-gif-16782169

[spice spire]

You’re at least responsible

It’s okay I’m not an adult either

[royal lantern]

quake, you where willing to listening me ranting about stuff in DMs when i was really down, you are responsible

[spice spire]

Yeah I didn’t argue that one

And yeah like

What’s the point in being a homie if you’re not gonna be a homie

Y’know

[normal mist]

That's what a true homie would say

[lofty junco]

and public orders form others for money?

or are we still forced to manual search in the trade chat?

[normal mist]

in theory its the same

[lofty junco]

and in practice?^^

[normal mist]

if people want stuff from random people without being sure if it will be max quality or not they'll just post as a public workorder

but i've seen a HUGE increase in tww of public workorders

[dawn seal]

RASHANAN JUST GRIEFED MY DPS

😭

[normal mist]

but honestly just keep trade chat window open, looking for quick snipes

[lofty junco]

hmm ok seems that my new PC at least did save all of the macros and some setting. but no addons at all. thats gonna be a huge pain to set up

[hexed frost]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-guys-not-have-a-phone-blizzard-diablo-gif-5097388828827651695

You guys don't have CurseForge on your PCs?

[lofty junco]

its a completly new PC

couldn't take the hard drive with me cause broken

[hexed frost]

Rippo

[lofty junco]

well I'm currently in the process of moving apartments, so not much time for playing anyway

[rotund oak]

back to human,i cant stand it anymore

so cute ponytails etc but human hair are just the best

[normal mist]

a cute reminder of what you were losing

[rotund oak]

my f@kin god

she's gorgeous

[normal mist]

I agree

she when mad

[lofty junco]

and to be fair.....i never thought that i would return to wow once again

[normal mist]

I'm sorry for you

And wish you luck

[spice spire]

That’s what they all say

[ionic hill]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[lofty junco]

yeah just now that i ahve my clips channel to take care of and am already over 30, i will just take it slowly and not force the mythic CE and just gonna have fun^^

[normal mist]

Thats a good plan

[normal mist]

Do you know what else they say?

meow

[spice spire]

Over 30 is a weird way to say dead

[spice spire]

Wow what a cute lil guy

[normal mist]

Girl, i have 5 girls at my place, 4 being cats

[spice spire]

Man is drowning in it rn

[rotund oak]

my condolenses

[spice spire]

They’re so cute I love her

[normal mist]

actually

[lofty junco]

tbh i just notice how less flexible i'm now. and am glad that assa doesn't need that much of piano gameplay^^

[normal mist]

let me photograph the cat on my left

[rotund oak]

ive had 2 boys,one passed not long ago,now its me and my pup

[spice spire]

Yeah you have to actively fix that (still in that process) past your 20s 🙄

[spice spire]

But it’s nice.
Sin is chill.
Idiotically I also decided to try proy warrior

[normal mist]

yes the heater is on