assassination

[dawn heath]

does 10 mil dps onbosses

[subtle tundra]

bro

i have brewmaster

tank has alt dk

[dawn heath]

time to exploit

[subtle tundra]

💀

i go in as brewmaster

we get the guy

swap out

gg

[dawn heath]

they almost depleted the run though cause like

he only does ST

the mob

and they struggled on trash

bet they died a bunch too

[subtle tundra]

surely we can do it

nice and slow

with a "normal" comp

[lethal heart]

i have dk

[dawn heath]

that aeternaix guy

[lethal heart]

[dawn heath]

known cheater

he did a bunch of world buff runs too

[lethal heart]

i hate enha pre pull shit

let alone doing world buffs

all pre pull shit/all buffs everything purged when you start the key

so everyone just presses buffs when you start the key

[spice surge]

Its so weird that starting the key doesnt remove their tempests

[lethal heart]

it needs to stop lol

@spice surge its funny tho because look at raid

they have that tech in raid

[spice surge]

They literally went out of their way to remove almost all of the rogue stuff in the .5 patch

[dawn heath]

my face when my enhance tilts cause we ask him to finish mobs with 5% hp instead of runnign into the next pack, when i have to put up with him prestacking for 3minutes before every key

[lethal heart]

when you are 20 people in raid all raid buffs

and then lets say warrior leaves

you put in idk rogue in

you pull boss

battle shout is gone once you encoutner boss

the tech is there

why isnt it there for when you put the key in lol

[dawn heath]

its a different ID of battleshout

[spice surge]

They just forgot to put tempest on that list

[dawn heath]

from the NPC's

and from the players

[lethal heart]

ye i see

that makes sense sure

but also doesnt just fix it

but im fairly sure these runes will be uhm invalidated?

there was similar situation in DF

weith some quest people abused

i remember

[dawn heath]

i genuiinely hope they perma ban all cheaters

if u cheesed like a 18+ key

u should be banned

[spice surge]

They should be, but seeing as they havent already it probably wont

[lethal heart]

i think in dragonflight people didnt get banned

but i know they took away titles

[spice surge]

Who knows though

[dawn heath]

u guys know how much time you gain by getting everythign during christmas event?

[lethal heart]

coz my friend had enough points, but he didnt get the title

he did abuse that quest shit

[dawn heath]

i did some napkin math

[subtle tundra]

15% dps?

[lethal heart]

the christmas buff was fine tho

[dawn heath]

its ballparked to gain you about 5minutes of time

in a key

[lethal heart]

the mistletoe

[dawn heath]

if u got everything

[spice surge]

He means the garrison stuff too

[lethal heart]

yes ik

[dawn heath]

double flask garrison buff mistletoe and raid buffed

[lethal heart]

but just wanna distinguish that

[subtle tundra]

competitive aaah game

[dawn heath]

there is a bunch of +18 dawnbreaker 2 chests from a chinese team

they stopped bug exploiting now they time it with 1minute spare

same amount of deaths

same players

[subtle tundra]

hey we +2d a 17 db

almost the same thing

[dawn heath]

so fucking funny how there was no timed 18 GB's

then overnight

4 chinese team timed it

in one morning

🤔

[dawn heath]

what overall do u and your ele pull in your mist runs

[subtle tundra]

3.2-3.3 me if its a decent run

[dawn seal]

Chinese people are really really good and never cheese the game

[subtle tundra]

ele almost 4m

3.8-3.9

[dawn heath]

werent u saying it shouldnt be 20%?

that sounds liek 20%

diff

[subtle tundra]

thats a shit dungeon

cause he pads on smallies

[lethal heart]

he also does a lot more on 1st boss i assume

[subtle tundra]

at 3rd boss area

[lethal heart]

but also he said enha

[dawn heath]

ele and enha are neck in neck in dps

in mist

very even

[subtle tundra]

yeah when they are in the same run

different when they have another spec

in their group

[dawn heath]

na im saying

on logs

[subtle tundra]

oh

[dawn heath]

there are more enhances but thats just due to popularity of the spec

[subtle tundra]

i mean whenever there are smallies its really bad for assa

and a lot more overall for ele

(in aoe packs i mean)

[dawn heath]

well, its the same when u play with enhance

[subtle tundra]

cause they eat ruptures and garrotes

[dawn heath]

u dont really get to touch them

as a rogue

[subtle tundra]

yeah im just saying in mists

you asked mists

not nice for rogue

[dawn heath]

ye

what do we think oif these talneted gamers

[subtle tundra]

i think they just gamed

[dawn heath]

this shaman must've been

4.8mil

ingame dps

[lethal heart]

27:05 holy

[dawn heath]

surely no world buffs

[subtle tundra]

how long was first boss

lol

[dawn heath]

2:55

[subtle tundra]

gah damn

still 2 phase

losers

[dawn heath]

whats this 🤔

[lethal heart]

i think i saw robins clip of 1 phase in 20

with ele/enha on tr

[dawn heath]

god damn this guyu is so talented

the pull after mistcaller

i legit dont know how to do dps on that pull

like both other packs are in narnia

and the smallies get evaporated

[subtle tundra]

i dot the 4 far and shadowstep to get to main guy

[dawn heath]

u remove crippling poison?

thing is our tank pulls it away from those mobs

he tanks up on the right corner where the flyers pat in

i wouldnt realistically be able to do that

unless like

double shadowstep shenanigans if our healer stands there or something

but also

u lose yhour mark there

u would need to coommit vanish

the 6s subterfuge window is not sufficient

to get there in time

[subtle tundra]

Yes

[dawn heath]

he tanks the pack over here

soi i cant really get there

quickly

idk

[subtle tundra]

No crippling for that pull, for the boughbreaker pulls before first and on last boss

Shadowstep a range

And then the big caster

[dawn heath]

still i play 6s subterfuge

its not enough

i woulld need to vanish

[subtle tundra]

I play double vanish in mista

I think it's great

[dawn heath]

i've tried ive done less dps in those runs with those talents but idk

its probably just rng

[subtle tundra]

I like it in mists cause of that exact pull, cause I can get vanish in first pull, 2nd pull and then 2 vanishes on boss

I think it's great

And after last boss we do a double pull with bl

[dawn heath]

ye same

[subtle tundra]

And I can do setup

On both packs

Like it's the dungeon where subterfuge and 2nd vanish have a lot of value

So I like it

[dawn heath]

do u step on last boss in ara

or do u run out

[subtle tundra]

I run out

Learned way too late I can step it

[dawn heath]

oh rly

[lethal heart]

i like the shiv supercharge for 1st boss

[subtle tundra]

So I never bothered

[dawn heath]

i put focus on my shaman/aug and use a focus step macro

[subtle tundra]

I like ma for the whole damage Amp

[subtle tundra]

I also dot my add in the meantime

So it's not totally useless

[dawn heath]

i mean u dont that with step too

cause u will land on their add

but ye

i think its slightly better to step

but higher risk

u can misstime it

and die

[subtle tundra]

Timer isnt an issue

Is chill

Boss is easy

[lethal heart]

so i assume you just play standard subterfurge -iron wire + ttk

like for most dungeons

[subtle tundra]

Yeah

[dawn heath]

i mean its also good if have few pools

[midnight mist]

Noob

[subtle tundra]

I'm playing 2nd vanish less and less lol

[dawn heath]

probably not touching rogue again after this season end

[subtle tundra]

I also like lower ic duration 😔

[dawn heath]

first and last season

[lethal heart]

mark is very unfun to play in m+

[subtle tundra]

Yeah...

[dawn heath]

one of the thing i hate the most about the spec is the positional requirement

u cant just hit a different mob

tank parks in poop

[subtle tundra]

I wanna swap targets? Oops conditionals

[dawn heath]

too bad

u cant do shit

[lethal heart]

ye lol

whenever i see a mob on 25% vs 15% and i wanna swap

and i see tough luck i need 3 more finishers on my guy

[dawn heath]

like for example idk if it happend to u guys but

this pull

[subtle tundra]

Get rupture on him, make sure dn is up, mutilate him

[dawn heath]

sometimes the necromancer is infront of the marauders

and legit u cant hit it without beeing frontaled

so fucking aids

[lethal heart]

ye im scared of marauders

their frontal is legit 180

toxic

[subtle tundra]

Or on pulls with shadow wells

Oops I wanna hit my target

And I don't see a well

Oh well

[dawn heath]

i mean i have to yell at our tank in mist

[lethal heart]

when i play class with ranged kick

i smile

[dawn heath]

cause he doesnt move the staghorns from the pools

from the small larvas

he just parks it in the shit

BUT I CAN HIT THE PACK WHY CANT U???

bro hits blessed hammer and consecrate

[quiet oar]

This is the most tank line

ive ever heard

[dawn heath]

mist is def the most area denial cancer duengon

blue pools then u have your range players standing zimbabwe baiting the charges so they fly to the moon and back running away with your marked target

[subtle tundra]

Me when I hit a defender

And I start seething

[nimble phoenix]

New ish rogue to raid. What are the mechanics that you can “cloak” to benefit the group/uptime? appreciate y’all.

[golden loom]

Bloodbound horror "run away" mechanic, Sikran sweep (cloak at 1 second of sweep cast), Kyveza dashes so you dont get the queensbane debuff

[glacial stump]

Not having to run out on bloodbond is chefs kiss

Smolderon rings were also chefs kiss

[nimble phoenix]

Appreciate that. This is def going to help my overall on blood in mythic

[clever sapphire]

so fun fact, i always forget the sikran one and just press evasion and cloak at the last second

i cant for the life of me remember which one i need to press

[balmy condor]

I remember because I just remind myself that evasion is the worst immunity of all time, so it can’t be that

Works like 98% of the time

[clever sapphire]

that do be a good point

but what if im a madman that plays elus on that boss

i mean i dont

but what if

[nocturne remnant]

Do you think assa is gonna stay strong next season? I just picked the spec up

[golden loom]

it hasnt gotten any changes so probably

[clever sapphire]

C: cant tell, rogue got 0 changes

[nocturne remnant]

I see, well it's pretty good now so I suppose it's good if it stays like this

[spice surge]

Like when you could dodge the wall debuffs on neltharion

Suddenly it was good when nobody expected it

[nocturne remnant]

What do you think about the new tier set?

[main blaze]

Look 🔥 bonus 👎

[dawn seal]

Can u cloak sikran

No wae

I thought it was physical

[clever sapphire]

Ew

Every melee set is pretty much ew

[golden loom]

cloak at 1 second and you immune damage and knockback

[spice surge]

Its shadow

It just goes through cloak unless its the first second of cloak

[nocturne remnant]

They went full RNG because of the casino raid lol

[main blaze]

Yeah that was a nice lesson the second time we did the fight -_-

[spice surge]

Yes but the assa one is particularly bad

Numbers are low

[nocturne remnant]

I hope we stay strong in M+

Assa is fun

[spice surge]

Then again current set is stinky too so

[nocturne remnant]

lol

As I said I just started learning rogue

[dawn seal]

I thought cloak made me immune during duration

Huh

[golden loom]

the first second is special

read cloak

[dawn seal]

I ll

[clever sapphire]

Well ye, but ranges get cool procs

Melee gets glorified mastery buffs

[spice surge]

Its not very obvious at all in the tooltip.

Especially not since its fairly random what works and what doesnt

[golden loom]

yeah its a bit fried

[foggy coyote]

I'll take all the mastery I can get my hands on ngl

[dry dagger]

What's the likelihood that they will remove the autocast on Tea?

[spice spire]

Somewhere between 0 and 100%

But probably closer to 0

[dry dagger]

Such an unfun change for me

[spice spire]

Why

You can actually factually play around it

[dry dagger]

I don't want to have to play around it, I want autonomy over my ability usage

Sometimes dumping energy is worth it, but you don't want more energy right away

[spice spire]

You can also still do that

Just don’t go below 30

And cast it manually

If it’s so unfun for auto you have the means to adapt

[dry dagger]

Or, you know, give me the option to opt out of it

I don't need another thing to think about when playing, there's already enough going on

[spice spire]

You literally have the option yourself

[golden loom]

well u dont need to think about it

cause it doesnt matter

[spice spire]

Auto Tea actually removes that

So this is a clashing statement

And like uwucute whatever said, it doesn’t matter

[dry dagger]

It matters to me, and how the spec feels to play

[spice spire]

Why

[dawn seal]

wa

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[dawn seal]

doesnt change how the spec plays

tho

[dry dagger]

Cos I want to make the decision, and not have the game decide it for me

[dawn seal]

but it doesnt matter

[dry dagger]

And if I'm to play around it I need to keep an even closer eye on energy

[spice spire]

Dog what are we doing here

You either want to make the decision or not

You have the option literally rn to do that

[dry dagger]

Yeah, but I don't wanna have to calc energy on the fly to see if I should hold an ability or not

That's my point

[golden loom]

the main important thing imo is that it doesnt really cost you any dps to just macro tea to shiv and forget about it forever

[spice spire]

[dawn seal]

do u guys know how can I make this show my hp

[spice spire]

But my decisions

[golden loom]

display combat something in settings

[spice spire]

That looks like base UI and I’ve not used in years (keep using if it works for you I hate elvui so much)

[golden loom]

cant remember what its called and classic doesnt have it so cant check atm

wait nvm classic does have it

[dawn seal]

works

tyty

I have to purge my weak auras

[golden loom]

for some reason on retail tho I have had it stop working randomly sometimes, and then turn it on and off again to fix it

[scarlet barn]

I think having thistle tea charges on your bar is a good reminder when you’re over spending energy early in the fight bc usually that means you’re overwriting envenom charges needlessly if you are at 0 within a minute or two of the fight

[dawn seal]

do u wanna come and help me purge my weakauras if I stream

[golden loom]

about to go into ragefire chasm (lvl 16 dungeon on hardcore) 😎

[dawn seal]

I am bout to do raid for transmitter

[tall atlas]

any advice for the queen bubble on mythic with cd usage

i dont feel like its useful to pop kb and DM on the bubble if i dont really get any uptime with how the cds work

[dawn seal]

huh

I dont think if usend it on cd

u have it on shield intermission tho

someone confirm me

[normal mist]

What class will you play next?

[tall atlas]

yeah my RL wants me to hold DM and KB for the shield

you are right

[dawn seal]

huh

thats clueless

[golden loom]

I have died on 2 lvl 20 warriors, and gotten 2 rogues to 60 so I am sticking to rogue now for fresh

[civic condor]

im trying to optimize my single target rotation for mythic raiding, should I always wait for 7 combo points before using envenom or is it okay to cast it on 6 combo points? 5 combo points? like how many combo points should I be aiming for, for optimal dmg?

[golden loom]

always finish on 5+, only time you force 7 is for darkest night

[dawn seal]

u play the deathstalkers mark mini game always finish on 5+ unless u have darkest night in m+ and on bosses u ideally play for the envenom up time

am I correct @golden loom

[civic condor]

so theres no point ever going above 5 intentionally unless i wanna proc darkest night?

no matter what finisher i use?

[golden loom]

correct

[civic condor]

okay thanks guys!

[glacial stump]

Just look at some logs and see what others are doing

https://lorrgs.io/spec_ranking/rogue-assassination/queen-ansurek

[tall atlas]

yeah everyone is sending on CD and using kb at the end of the shield

[glacial stump]

I'd just follow what everone else does. Gets a little more dicey at the end

[royal lantern]

5CP by itself is the point where generating more CP has a high chance to waste generated CP

thats why 5CP is the "normal" finishiner ranged otside of DN

[spice spire]

What’s dn

[pure star]

just send kb as soon as it comes off CD during shield, you dont get full value but it lines up to come back with deathmark at platform 2 for guardian add

[glacial stump]

Darkest night, hero talent

[spice spire]

It’s actually deez nuts

I’m sorry you didn’t deserve that

[glacial stump]

Nah its actually darkest night

[spice spire]

(I’m well aware of what it is that’s the whole joke)

[dapper cradle]

It’s darkest night because of his big nutz covering your eyes

[spice spire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1078500556139659357/1266583932426653826/attachment.gif

[dapper cradle]

Good morning quake

[fallow canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-cat-typing-kitten-typing-typing-gif-9421482755570860732

[spice spire]

GM somnius

[royal lantern]

google says Nennweite

[spice spire]

Can I get that in English rq

[glacial stump]

I knoww, just didnt know how to come back from that

[dapper cradle]

Hey man are you white

Nah im neinnweite

[spice spire]

Damn I’m sorry I did that to you king. You deserve better. I hope you have an amazing day

[glacial stump]

Thanks man, got myself a 99 ilvl parse on ulgrax LFR today so its going well

[spice spire]

Hell yeah

[dawn seal]

guys why is the name plate on the ceeling

😭

[dry dagger]

Wiped on Zekvir ?? on 0.8%

[glacial stump]

You can set the height, also changes depening on the angle youre looking at the boss from

[dapper cradle]

I did mine during outlaw bug

[charred wraith]

i dont need to cast more than 5 raptures for agi in aoe, there are better gcds, right?

[mint spoke]

Yeah I was messing up my rotation myself Hekili didn't do it wrong I did 😅. Honestly I need to get the WoWhead photo of the rotation on my second screen and just practice

[runic hinge]

That’s what I did. Just hit dummies with the opener on my second monitor

[mint spoke]

Imma do that today before I do keys

[spice spire]

What if you don’t have a second monitor

[nocturne remnant]

Should I use mousover rupture and garrote in M+ or PVE in general?

[runic hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/kim-petras-and-paris-hilton-paris-hilton-kim-petras-credit-card-i-dont-want-it-at-all-gif-15244512

[runic hinge]

!carnage

[prisma monolith]

Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

• The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
• You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

[spice spire]

Don’t have enough space

[nocturne remnant]

So I should keep them as normal buttons? I was thinking about replacing them with mousover

I guess it's better to swap targets

[crude helm]

Unless your mark is on an enemy just target swap

[nocturne remnant]

Do you lose mark when target swapping?

[crude helm]

No it will stay on the target until the stacks are consumed

[golden loom]

no harm in just making the button a mouseover anyways right, gives you flexibility 😄

[candid sun]

I don't do it with rupture but with cc, still hit or miss tbh

Better off swapping generally

[humble verge]

then you prop up your phone right under your monitors view and blast :)

[spice spire]

So true bestie

That’s the tech

[gilded oasis]

I got you something

[spice spire]

Should I be scared

[novel star]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

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[dapper cradle]

why do people clown on FB, if it basically sims the same

within like .5% of each other

for ST at least

[runic hinge]

Feels bad when you don't hit capstone and it nerfs itself if there's even a second target

[dapper cradle]

Fs in chat then

[brave comet]

why pick this on broodtwister?

instead of blindside

[golden loom]

whos doing that?

sounds very strange

[brave comet]

the wowhead page does

for ovinax mythic

[golden loom]

would have to ask whispyr I guess, but looking at his most recent log hes playing blindside

maybe that was some older tech? idk

[brave comet]

can i see?

[golden loom]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rXT3Kpnafzb97JNm?fight=45&type=summary&source=6

[brave comet]

no cheat death?

[novel star]

if the adds are alive long enough you’re rarely ever mutilating

so blindside is cringe

and also there’s tech to shiv in aoe desynced from kb

double whammy

[royal lantern]

you use FoK more then mutilate on that fight

and aoe shiv does decent aoe dmg with that talent

[brave comet]

dont you CD on pull?

[novel star]

yes

what does that have to do with anything said

[brave comet]

because i dont know if the shivs would align with ads being alive

[brave comet]

unless they survive really long enough idk

[novel star]

i just said desynced

from kb

you slam normal cds on pull

and on future adds you can technically desync

if you desire

but regardless it’s more to take anything that isn’t bs because adds

all irrelevant this late into szn anyway

[royal lantern]

mate, your other dps do either GIGA add dmg and they die to fast

or you dont know that FoK is better then Mut at 2 targets for Deathstalker

[brave comet]

and this ?

[novel star]

same point

[golden loom]

ye ye just showed casts

[novel star]

no mutilates means no blindside procs means no value from buffing ambush

so you just take the energy shit

[brave comet]

FoK is better than mut at 2 targets?

is that true?

[royal lantern]

for deathstalker yes

[golden loom]

if u play the talent before CT right

[novel star]

ya

fan talent + ds tree

= 2

[runic hinge]

remember when flensing knives

[novel star]

i miss her

[spice spire]

Hey

[novel star]

hey quakeypoo

wow my phone autocorrected that

i was gonna say quakey but it filled quakeypoo on its own

[spice spire]

Damn bbgirl didn’t realize you had me like that

[rancid wind]

logs questions of the day;

1. If my log has 34 envenom casts and 107 hits, but someone else has 36 casts and 127 hits, what causes the more hits per cast?
2. What do I do to increase the damage my Kingsbane does? I'm seeing people get a lot more damage out of that ability than I do

[novel star]

[spice spire]

A. Poison bomb probably

[golden loom]

poison bomb

[spice spire]

B. Maximize your stacks and make sure you’re pooling

So if you look at logs - go to buffs and follow the higher number kb.
Should be 50x casts

Or very very close

If you’re hitting that, but still infinitely less

[fallow canopy]

just crit more

[rancid wind]

poison bomb is just RNG based on CP spent right?

[spice spire]

Check buff timings (pain in the ass) and crits

[novel star]

make sure env buff is rolling before (and 100% uptime during) kb and use shivs properly is all p much

[fallow canopy]

yup

[novel star]

beyond that pray for crit yea

game sucks

[spice spire]

Game doesn’t suck

Just very few things matter because you can get boosted by rng

[novel star]

sorry u right

[spice spire]

Ty

[royal lantern]

everyone told me that mandate+skardyns is the best

but my sacbrood sims higher

[keen spruce]

but your spyglass sims even higher than that

surely

[spice spire]

Wasn’t mandate and skardyns pre ttk change

[royal lantern]

idk

[keen spruce]

[spice spire]

And yet it often doesn’t

[novel star]

leave for however long and the same conversations still happening

infinite loop

[keen spruce]

egg alwasy sims like beans for me

[royal lantern]

its 0,3% bro, thats GIGANTIC

[spice spire]

Had an auto tea this am

[spice spire]

Sikran neck?

[novel star]

oh beautiful

[royal lantern]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/koutBy1SF28oVdpB7Epjv1

idk man

lol

[keen spruce]

sometimes

maybe i need to do a new sim

it's been a hot minute

[runic hinge]

wish someone would put cyanide in my auto tea

[royal lantern]

relatable

[keen spruce]

are people still cranky about auto tea?

[spice spire]

Yes

Somehow

[ember mural]

Next Tuesday

[fallow canopy]

don't be a tea malder just be a tea scalder ||🥁 ||

[royal lantern]

tbf, i dont understand why its just not a chose 1 node

like, would solve everything in that regard

[spice spire]

I mean sure that’s fine too

But if it bothers you enough

You can play around it

And manually cast

[fallow canopy]

I just wanna be mad

don't offer me solutions

[novel star]

when even is the next season coming out

[fallow canopy]

[royal lantern]

no offical date

[novel star]

[royal lantern]

probs end February

[spice spire]

This isn’t you specific btw just generalized

[keen spruce]

hmm yeah ig in single target

sac is better than crystal

but only if I don't equip sikran neck

[spice spire]

Yeah

[royal lantern]

imagine having a skiran neck

[spice spire]

Turns out 5k haste skews things

[keen spruce]

and only if the fight is long enough

[royal lantern]

imagine lasting long enough

wait what

[spice spire]

Cant relate to this struggle king

[keen spruce]

pretty sure sikran neck is extra beans

[spice spire]

But you’re more than enough don’t you ever forget

[keen spruce]

the shorter the fight gets

[spice spire]

Are you gulps feelcrafting it

[keen spruce]

no

i'm crunchin the numbies

[runic hinge]

crunch this

[spice spire]

Ok

[fallow canopy]

is it big enough?

(the sims)

[pure moth]

😂

[keen spruce]

it gotta be super short tho

for rash neck

to be better

[fallow canopy]

[keen spruce]

actually

[royal lantern]

[keen spruce]

mythic it's unrealistic

to get fights short enough

[royal lantern]

🤓

[keen spruce]

but heroic parsing tho

[spice spire]

Shmeeps the kitchen is on fire again

Get out

[keen spruce]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2tsG4GsSisEVQVfthCsnds

see

1m fight

crit neck better

[spice spire]

.

[keen spruce]

seeeeeee

(I definitely didn't just forget to switch necks)

[spice spire]

What is that heroic ulgrax

[keen spruce]

i think we got wr speed on 5 fights

[spice spire]

Casual btw

[keen spruce]

someone bought a parse run

for fun

[vagrant brook]

sry I only parse mythic

[keen spruce]

I only come in for first 6 bosses in reclear

[fallow canopy]

same (gray parsing)

[keen spruce]

cuz i'm a casual

[pure moth]

Should see my court parse. Was comical...

Sad times

[earnest remnant]

same but on mythic

[spice spire]

Not all 8

Colour gone soft

[earnest remnant]

nah a certain split guild decided to use splits charrs for speed

[royal lantern]

excuses

washed up fr

[keen spruce]

yeah but my guild kinda speshul

[spice spire]

Push would have never

[gritty haven]

Should you build full cb when you have supercharger or just use them asap?

[royal lantern]

you ignore supercharger exists

it doesnt change your gameplay

[gritty haven]

aah nice, ty!

[clever sapphire]

wdym, i always finish on 1 and 2 cp so its a blue finisher

[golden loom]

they should make a talent around that, like using finishers on the blue combo points

[runic hinge]

I'm sure it won't be controversial at all and definitely well liked

[shy pecan]

I miss ER…

[spice surge]

@spice spire Miss ER? I hardly know her!

[clever sapphire]

aight sending on cooldown feels nice on court

[runic hinge]

@spice spire is 8 mill a big enough demise

[shy pecan]

I guess it’s time to call her

[spice surge]

I believe in you, you can do so much more!

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[runic hinge]

I can, I wasn't playing around it too hard but maybe this dungeon i will

[spice spire]

Yeah why do you think I miss er hello

[golden loom]

Bleedbuild stonks ⤴️

[spice surge]

But alas, the ministry of big demises has rejected your application

[frozen glacier]

i hate being in this limbo of not knowing if assassination will be good or dogshit next season

[runic hinge]

I'mma play it either way

[golden loom]

just play the spec

[spice spire]

Silence shadow priest main

[runic hinge]

I've decided im too mid at spriest

we're back to rogue

[spice spire]

No seriously please use silence

It’s been 30 seconds

https://tenor.com/view/belt-fedora-reaction-meme-funny-taeilbarbie-gif-14869617614129692474

[shy pecan]

Key too low

[spice spire]

Me when timewalking last night

[dapper cradle]

Add me on btag king

[spice spire]

Everything felt better when shadow was tank and not doing 2m dps

[dapper cradle]

I want to timewalk with you

[spice spire]

NA or EU

[dapper cradle]

NA

[spice spire]

Oh yeah sure hell yeah

Rat o clock baby

[novel star]

?????

[spice spire]

Yeah what’s good

[novel star]

Need.

[spice spire]

[hexed frost]

Got bored off assassination, tried enhancement shaman

Jesus Christ what the hell is that rotation lmao

[charred wraith]

stormstike tempest repeat

[dapper cradle]

are you ascendancemaxxing?

[pliant remnant]

he named two enhance abilities updoots to the left

[royal lantern]

its a reactive spec

[charred wraith]

i mean the entire build fishes for wolves with tempest currently

and mastery helps get stormstrike back which procs tempest and stuff

[mint spoke]

Im hoping to get better at Rogue. I played WW monk all this season and just felt mid

[pliant remnant]

Stormstrike does not "proc Tempest", what are you waffling about

Also yeh it fishes for wolves, you're just being very reductionist about its rotation

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hexed frost]

Half of the time I'm only looking at my screen like a monke, because I have 10 stacks of maelstrom but I also have sundering off cd and also have ascendance, feral spirit and doom wind off cd.

My brain finally fires a nerve and I throw a chain lightning, but I get two refunds back to back so I'm just spamming CL.

I now have a tempest stack so I primordial wave into lightning strike followed by another CL before finally entering cooldowns.

Wasted literally 40 maelstorms because brain froze

[charred wraith]

i think sl and df ench was more intricate (at least df s1)

[dapper cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/getting-caught-red-handed-when-you-braking-bad-caught-gif-14367004302284152759

peter u got caught bro

[hexed frost]

But hitting 15 Million DPS on first pull of necrotic wake actually fires my neurons

[pliant remnant]

ay caramba

tbf I only started playing it this season

I just press Tempest when it lights up

[hexed frost]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-point-gun-monkey-gun-threatening-threaten-gif-27256408

[pliant remnant]

But see, that's exactly the point

it's more intricate than it seems innit

[hexed frost]

How it feels when you get the tempest prox

[charred wraith]

the only somewhat intricate part is setting up ascendance window imo, but it gets repetitive

[wispy moss]

when crafting you think making the weapon would be the best first craft? even if i can craft a way higher neck?

my neck would go up 43 levels

[spice spire]

Yeah what’s your weapon MH tho

[wispy moss]

two heroic kurkis

6/6

[spice spire]

That’s the biggest gain most of the time.
But if you’ve a 626 Mh it’s not as big of a deal.
Most of the time when crafting early on people were going from like 600-613s - 636.
You can still sim it

And I recommend it

[iron carbon]

I would sim

Robot is smarter than this whole server

[wispy moss]

yeah its saying neck do we know what embelishment?

[normal mist]

none

unless you can put the crit emb / other one i forgot the name there

[proven jasper]

Dawnthread/Duskthread

I think they’re called

[zealous moth]

Dawnthread is crit Duskthread is versatility

[warm vortex]

Just had lunch

and first week of uni this semester done

Also the longest day of the week is on the same day as my raid

[clever sapphire]

thats cursed

[warm vortex]

So it's like
i leave at 7am
get back at like half 6PM or 7PM
Finish raid at 10PM

raid is 7-10

Worst part

Is that day at uni is like
2 hour lecture
30 min break
4 and a half hours of nothing but math

i hate math

[normal mist]

You got this

[subtle tundra]

i had exam at 19:30

and i got home at 22

great day

[golden loom]

I played 16 hours of classic wow today, great day

[normal mist]

i had work from 8am to 5pm

every day of the week

[golden loom]

I work 6:30-14:30 😎

[normal mist]

i wish

[golden loom]

We have flex start between 6:30-9

Actually idk if that even matters anymore with work from home, maybe I could start at 4am

[runic hinge]

I work 1700-0130

[clever sapphire]

what in the army is that

[runic hinge]

5 pm to 1:30 am and it's actually the USPS

[clever sapphire]

(i was just kidding, no worries )

[rain coral]

guys is 3k rio good?

[spice spire]

Yeah you’re chuckling

[normal mist]

depends on the PoV

[royal lantern]

its like

idk

0,5% range

or even lower

[craggy fog]

Are we trash or good next season csnt see any dfixes or patchnotes 😦

[runic hinge]

There’s no changes

[craggy fog]

Sp the sets still dont work for us ? 😦

[golden loom]

It does something but its not good currently, but also current tier isnt very good either and sin still cranks

[runic hinge]

I would imagine that’s fixed before the patch actually drops

[craggy fog]

Hope so i came back to rogue after 6 years and rally enjoy it

Really

[golden loom]

Then keep playing it king

[runic hinge]

It’s gonna play exactly the same next patch

[brave comet]

first attempt on ovinax and princess

did i do well on princess?

[earnest remnant]

did you live?

[brave comet]

i died on the fourth minute

[earnest remnant]

then no

[warm vortex]

Just got the heart attack of a lifetime

[warm vortex]

Id vomit

id love like

a 6:30 am to 3PM

But ending at such an akward time

Also had a fucking

Heart attack

Turns out

if you open wow

while palying wow

you get this message

I went to copy my battle net tag to send to a friend, typed it out, and clicked enter. While still being in the battle net window
So instead of sending the message i opened wow again
Sent tag
came back to this
And i thought i really fucked something. But nope, just me opening wow mid wow

[spice spire]

Dog you need sleep

[balmy condor]

no

[clever sapphire]

how many parasites did you guys farm

[clever sapphire]

do you like my new pfp more

[spice spire]

Sass me again and I’ll clean all of your holes

[balmy condor]

it's fitting

[brave comet]

idk, this is my first attempt i cant tell you anything at all

[clever sapphire]

i wanted a snowboarding murloc

but i didnt find any pics

so i settled with a frosty looking one

[brave comet]

i got this but i REALLY hate it

do you guys macro it with DM?

[tawdry halo]

I think you need to pop it just before DM so you dont waste DM uptime looking for the buff

[brave comet]

since the cd on this is 1:30 and DM is 2:00

that means ill have to wait for dm to come up everytime right?

[tawdry halo]

yep - best to have the agi buff for the burst window since we're a burst spec

[broken moth]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[mint spoke]

I still cant decide on Monk or Rogue for season 2

[west smelt]

Guys for ovinax should I be actively killing the adds or just blast the boss and passively aoe through caustic splatter

[balmy condor]

crimson tempest and spatter

they die too quick for anything else

[west smelt]

It's worth talenting into CT for that fight then?

[balmy condor]

yes

CT is more boss damage

so it's not even pad

[west smelt]

Oh cool

Do you just put it up during the add portions?

[balmy condor]

yep

any time there's 2 or more

[west smelt]

Thank you!

[humble verge]

hooooooooly

finally 16 cot

2 seconds under

[spice spire]

Your healer has to be insane

Last two bosses alone are

[humble verge]

i actually

saved feint sometimes

cause he was actually pumping

[split willow]

Do i do less damage if i take off crippling poison in m+? i think im trolling the GB first pull by slowing everything

[humble verge]

i stopped running crippling after 10s

you want to have everything stacked

some place where it helps ig

is after 1st pull in ara

[runic hinge]

Lethal dose stack

[spice surge]

Yes you'd do less without the lethal dose stack, but its still worth to drop it

Just apply sometime before/after first boss

[split willow]

i see. i lose 1 stack, so ill drop the crippling poison for the pulls i know are hard to gather

[heady elbow]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[marsh fjord]

I'm very new to assasination i'm reading through wowhead and i'm stuck with a qeustion. does shiv only get used in kingsbane windows? outside of that you just hold?

[spice spire]

In raid yes

In keys where you don’t have lightweight, you’ll have time in between to squeeze one

When needed

[marsh fjord]

Where would you squeeze one if i may ask?

[spice spire]

Just off CD

And like

When you’re focusing a big target down

[marsh fjord]

Ah oke makes sense thanks. and when you do have lightweight it's always first 8 seconds and last 8 seconds of kingsbane right?

or can i just automatically press shiv when it's over straight away?

the second one.

[balmy condor]

you can overlap them a little

kingsbane is 14 seconds, shiv is 8

so if you shiv->kingsbane

[marsh fjord]

Oh so i would cast it 6 seconds in

[balmy condor]

yeh

[marsh fjord]

Cool

[balmy condor]

6 seconds in, the first one has a second left

so gives you a bit of wiggle room

[marsh fjord]

yeah alright makes sense thanks.

[shy pecan]

I'll show you wiggle room

[balmy condor]

I'm guessing your enema was good?

[shy pecan]

ya

[marsh fjord]

About the text under the first multilate. Can someone explain to me why you FOK there?

[runic hinge]

Clear the witnesses in the hero talent

[marsh fjord]

ah oke makes sense

[regal idol]

been hitting a bit of a roadblock on progging 16s and my group wants me to see if there is any more single target damage i can dish out. here is a log from a 15 CoT and 16 DB we have ran. thanks in advance for any help!
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/kBwQHYJLpayGDnb1?fight=61&type=damage-done
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LgNwQMF79YZRqzkp?fight=4&type=damage-done

[jolly heath]

I think you are doing fine, it’s just enhance without PI might be the issue

[ancient tangle]

the lethal dose stack also applies for raid bosses even if the snare effect doesn't work ?

[balmy condor]

yes

[ancient tangle]

oh ok didn't know thx

[keen spruce]

your comp is just pretty low ST

one of the main problems with chicken rogue

and no pi for sham

but ur dmmg looks fine

[regal idol]

alright thanks, glad i havent been missing anything super important in ST lol. we dont always run with a boomkin but i guess we need to just avoid aug and try to always get a high ST class since our shaman will never have PI

[keen spruce]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7XJHLfNytbx243a8?fight=4&type=damage-done&pull=5 here's a 16 I did, granted we have warrior buff

if you factor in warrior sees roughly similar?

if you're doin 16s you probably already know how to play the class, there isn't really that much to optomize in single target tbh

with that comp u just gotta make up the time elsewhere

crankin in aoe

[runic hinge]

Oh I’ll be cranking alright

[keen spruce]

[regal idol]

gotcha, thanks for the feedback. our MW is going through it since he feels like he is holding us back not being priest lmao

[keen spruce]

well we basically have a pile of fury warrriors, outlaw rogues, MWs and resto shamans

so it kinda depends on the comp you're buildin

but MW is very good

you just lose a little value if you're not playin around the buff a bit

but you get some value out of it

[regal idol]

yeah, gonna talk with them about playing around our comp instead of filling dps with fotm

[glad osprey]

Does anyone know why my damage is so low? :( https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/c3A3fNtfeERqkfPYZRucEk

only 1.132 milion???

Oh weird

it sims

the 619 cyrce circlet when i have it maxed

[runic hinge]

Mythic plus build for Patchwerk?

[keen spruce]

^

[glad osprey]

that too

I realized LOL

does anyone know how to fix the gear tho

im running /simc and its still showing the ring as 619

or something

[runic hinge]

Dunno if I ever looked at my ring ilvl

[glad osprey]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eWWJ7G63ULJ7dAZVkEu8Yo it's still only 1.435 , is this normal?

[keen spruce]

yuh

5m sim

pretty long fight

[glad osprey]

huh my friend who is a windwalker is the exact same item level but does like 1.55m

but i guess its probably just my stat priority

its not perfect

[keen spruce]

stat prio don't matter

welkl

[glad osprey]

weirdd

[keen spruce]

not that mucch

[balmy condor]

I mean 1.43 is fine for that ilvl

what are you expecting

[keen spruce]

idk how often are you doin more than that in a 5 minute single target fight

[glad osprey]

i just wouldnt expect a WW to do more

but it indeed does

[buoyant herald]

Lol why

WW isn’t an inherently worse spec

In fact it’s actually decent right now

[balmy condor]

assa in full bis caps out at like 1.55

just how it is

[glad osprey]

yeah i was just confused because he acted like id do more

its not bad i just was wondering if my stat prio was weird or something

[buoyant herald]

Probably sees assass as m+ meta and thinks that’s decided on simdps

To be fair ww has historically been pretty bad in raid so maybe it’s that

Do you usually beat him in real encounters?

[glad osprey]

Similar honestly

[mighty vine]

is the window to shadowstep frothing gluttony tight as hell or am I crazy

[balmy condor]

is that the p3 ring or what is that

[earnest remnant]

yeh its the p3 ring

and no its no tight

as soon as the ring is past free space a mage can blink and you can follow it

[mighty vine]

maybe my mage is just sitting at the edge and when I shadowstep I'm ploped back inside

[balmy condor]

you're what

wdym plopped back inside

[spice spire]

also recommend trying top gear > quick sim, because it's a more accurate reflection, but yeah I'm pretty sure my 638 rogue is like 1.5ish

[spice spire]

iykyk foot boy

[balmy condor]

start trimming the nails

[slate crown]

this isn't doing the dishes

[spice spire]

Yeah I call whispyr the dishes hello

[eager condor]

Whispyr - thank you for the help we just got M ansurek down!

[balmy condor]

[dapper cradle]

under the nails is where all the flavor is

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-liar-liar-mama-elevator-gif-13456227

[cinder bone]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[golden loom]

Is there anything better than the morning energy drink?

[quiet oar]

2 Energy Drinks

[earnest remnant]

coffee and taking a shit after it

[subtle tundra]

I DONT HAVE COFFEE

I WILL KMS

I NEED TO SHIT

[glacial stump]

Coffee and taking a shit and only having to wipe once

[subtle tundra]

best part of the day is shitting

[quiet oar]

God i need a nap in the noon

7 Hours arent enough sleep

[subtle tundra]

i nap cause i have 5 hrs

[quiet oar]

Well its friday

i can go home at 1 pm

do a nap

order food

be happy

[subtle tundra]

yea i can finally go gym

[dawn heath]

anyone else

this should be bannable

people tagging like every key level

so it shows up

so fucking annoying

lmao

[subtle tundra]

he things he can do 16 17s

thats so cute

[dawn heath]

delusion is real with this one

tbf

he is 3400 on his main

but this rogue is 622 ilvl

so im not sure why he would think he can do it on this character

[quiet oar]

Because Rogue OP

Oh wait

Blue Rogue

ofc

[earnest remnant]

ive slept 2 hours xD

[quiet oar]

I would be dead

[novel dragon]

Do the animacharged combo points from shiv count toward a finisher being above 5 CP for the 5% increased damage from deeper stratagem?

same with sanguine stratagem?

[subtle tundra]

that 5% dmg is just a 5% modifier to all finishers

it has nothing to do with cp spent

[toxic zenith]

as sin unlike as aoe feral we have no gain from reable dots early right ?

[novel dragon]

Oh- so when should people be finishing?

[toxic zenith]

' swaped to this channel and see this first kek

[subtle tundra]

what do you mean by early

you should do it in pandemic

[quiet oar]

its the Horny and Furry/Xalatoes Posting everyone is talking about

[toxic zenith]

explian

[earnest remnant]

!pandemic

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[toxic zenith]

ahh ok

ty

[subtle tundra]

its not "beneficial"

it doesnt give you any more damage

[earnest remnant]

5+

[toxic zenith]

yes that was all i needed but ty

[drifting cloud]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1256021619890061343/1332403209649655828/g1-4x.gif

[earnest remnant]

[quiet oar]

Stealthi on the business man sleep schedule

2 hours every few hours

[earnest remnant]

nah have a fever atm

waiting for it to die down a bit and try for some more hours

[quiet oar]

Get well soon

May the rest be with you

[balmy condor]

May you rest in peace

[subtle tundra]

what fever? the gambling fever?

https://tenor.com/view/jago33-slot-machine-slot-online-casino-medan-gif-25082594

[earnest remnant]

the shaking while sweating and feeling cold at the same time kind

[subtle tundra]

yeah you shake and sweat, then youre cold cause you didnt win but you go agane

[quiet oar]

9/10 Gambling addicts stop gambling right before their big win

[rare jackal]

real

[runic hinge]

try getting drunk

[earnest remnant]

no thanks