assassination

[subtle tundra]

none

i dont transmog

[dawn seal]

Naked?

[subtle tundra]

yes

[dawn seal]

[clever sapphire]

i shall need proof of that

[balmy condor]

as long as I know which character on my screen is mine I don't really care what I look like

[subtle tundra]

ok...

[dawn seal]

Do u think we get some mage tower mogs again

[balmy condor]

what

[dawn seal]

On legion remix

[balmy condor]

what

now you're just yapping for sure right

[lusty kraken]

one thing I'm excited about next season are the trinkets not having cringe gimmicks like transmitter has

[clever sapphire]

ah you mean updated mage tower mog, like the updated classic thing?

[dawn seal]

I am not yapping

We are getting legion remix

[balmy condor]

legion remix?

nah

source

[clever sapphire]

agree, but subs bis trinket is from raid again right

[balmy condor]

link that shit

[subtle tundra]

greatest transmogger alive

[dawn seal]

It's confirmed

[balmy condor]

source

[dawn seal]

What lemme find it

Lemme find it

[clever sapphire]

looks like me after a good nights out

[lusty kraken]

is that trinket not bis for assa too?

[dawn seal]

I ll give u source when I am home

At work atm

[lusty kraken]

I thought the trinket is stronger than m+ trinkets

[clever sapphire]

there aint no bis till week 3 where blizzard decides to rebalance everything like usual

but thats the only 1:30 trinket right, so it must be bis for sub

[lusty kraken]

yeah it is

[balmy condor]

the only thing I'm finding on google is thishttps://www.wowhead.com/news/wow-2025-roadmap-speculation-and-theories-no-season-4-mysterious-rune-and-remix-350555

and that is

the furthest from confirmed

[golden loom]

Yeah think its only "hinted"

[balmy condor]

I could ever think of

"The banner is green so maybe legion remix"

[clever sapphire]

aye, i hate raid trinkets being bis, i dont have transmitter to this day

[dawn seal]

Ph

[clever sapphire]

so i didnt play sub all season, or atleast not where i thought i could do good dmg

[dawn seal]

I got mislead

[lusty kraken]

I got my heroic transmitter from the timewalking chest

[subtle tundra]

shit take

it just so happened that sub doesnt have any alternatives.

[balmy condor]

there's a good 1:30 in s2 right

[rotund oak]

yeah

[balmy condor]

W

[clever sapphire]

thats also from the raid afaik

[rotund oak]

if they fix sub a bit with the stupid RS bug

[balmy condor]

W W

[rotund oak]

sub is prime

[dawn seal]

I think legion remix is coming cuz

[subtle tundra]

do any of the fights look like sub fights

[rotund oak]

any fight is a sub fight

[balmy condor]

not particularly off initial testing I think

[subtle tundra]

as in, sub is better than assa on it from a design perspective

not numbers

[lusty kraken]

I heard almost none of the fights are melee fights in general

[balmy condor]

it's like this raid basically

like sub will probably be good on stuff

but there's no smolderon situations

[clever sapphire]

so play whatever and have fun

[subtle tundra]

fuck yeah

the bench

[final star]

All timer dependant but assa is the easier prog spec anyway

might as well just play assa

[subtle tundra]

does sub trickster still provide parry immunity to the whole raid

[balmy condor]

yes

[final star]

yes

[subtle tundra]

thats huge buddy

[clever sapphire]

i need a 2nd rogue in my raid that plays sub

[subtle tundra]

kinda like me

[balmy condor]

you know what else is huge

[clever sapphire]

so i dont get KB parries

[subtle tundra]

no

[final star]

there won't be a 2nd rogue in the raid so ur kb will parry

😄

[lusty kraken]

why get 2nd rogue when one rogue can provide both the poison and the trickster buff?

get ready to learn sub buddy

[subtle tundra]

im the 2nd rogue

i wont be sub

[dawn seal]

Whispyr I saw a video it said blizzard added mage tower mogs again to somewhere in game 11.0.7 again it's very sus

[clever sapphire]

i dont mind playing sub if i get the 1:30 trinket

[final star]

I'm 2nd rogue too and I will not be sub

[clever sapphire]

i like sub and assa equally, but getting a trinket for assa is just easier than getting transmitter

[final star]

sub is not fun on prog

in current design

[rotund oak]

fish fillet with brocolli and some oregano bread with olive oil,glass of white wine maybe

[final star]

[subtle tundra]

lowkey wanna get benched a lot next tier

cba progging

hope rogue is bad

ty

[final star]

get carried to CE

[rancid haven]

how are the three specs looking in 11.1 for raids and m+?

[final star]

all three specs have zero changes

hope that helps

[rancid haven]

noice

[lusty kraken]

wrong, they changed some stuff on outlaw

[balmy condor]

true

outlaw got buffed and everyone was pissed including outlaw

[final star]

2% chance for 5 buff!!!!!

[lusty kraken]

more like 17%

[clever sapphire]

outlaw now spamming the dice in hopes of a 5 buff, fun gameplay, much decision skills needed

[final star]

ya that's including talents and tier

spec still sucks ass to play so it doesn't matter

[balmy condor]

to be fair, they would've theorycrafted +0.2% reroll logic regardless of what the tier did

[rotund oak]

thats why the pirate channel is for any reasonable person

[final star]

Zac: "Do the devs play the game?"

If he said that

If he hasn't said that, that is

Is it really an outlaw change

[balmy condor]

Zac: "this is literally the worst change since the last change"

and then 3 months later the channel is like wow this is the best version of outlaw I've ever played so much fun

[subtle tundra]

and outlaws will legit change their whole reroll logic into something completely dogshit for .3% dps and complain

like, dont?

[final star]

https://tenor.com/view/bike-fall-memes-baton-roue-bike-stick-gif-8999945942594219773

[subtle tundra]

atleast whispyr is sensible enough to tell us not to bother when its minimal gains

for dogass

guys macro tea my balls are sweaty

[final star]

double shiv in keys is so OP

[rotund oak]

hard sniffin' copium andies

[final star]

😏

[subtle tundra]

my ass

[spice surge]

People tend to get very upset when you tell them things dont matter for some reason

"they must matter"

[subtle tundra]

blizz is a genious in class design and everything is planned out by them

for sure

[clever sapphire]

still didnt do it to this day

tea is on my bars

[torpid lion]

boys

[clever sapphire]

and sometimes i missclick because i suck

[subtle tundra]

girls

[marble hemlock]

real and based

if we ever meet irl varas, ill buy you a drink

[subtle tundra]

ill move to finland and remember this

[marble hemlock]

whats your poison?

[clever sapphire]

now do it again and kill it this time

then unsub till S2

[subtle tundra]

ill drink anything just to feel the alcohol nowadays

[torpid lion]

all my sub was from classic gold in wotlk

[marble hemlock]

well, youll get a thistle tea, whether you want it or not

[torpid lion]

i got like 3 years of game time

[subtle tundra]

hope it comes with shiv.

[rotund oak]

why u deny me.. ild buy u and whispyr drinks..

[marble hemlock]

it comes when youre down and low energy, obviously

[final star]

Best thing to drink is cocktails tbh

[marble hemlock]

long day of work, jonesing for a whiskey, and you get a thistle tea instead

[final star]

can slam 10 of those and feel nothing

[royal lantern]

heheheh

cock

[final star]

[marble hemlock]

https://i.imgur.com/Zg5k5ZO.jpeg

[final star]

[subtle tundra]

i just get so fucked from wine nowadays, hard liquor doesnt have the same effect

[balmy condor]

entschuldigung, wenn die bedienung kommt kannst du mir ein disteltee bestellen

[rotund oak]

have to translate that now

[subtle tundra]

LIDL MENTIONED

GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

[balmy condor]

you can't translate giving seli an aneurysm

[rotund oak]

seli just ignores me,idk

even asking to buy him drinks on octoberfest

[subtle tundra]

is lidl in america

[marble hemlock]

cuz i dont willingly set foot into bavaria

[balmy condor]

no

[subtle tundra]

what an L for americans

[rotund oak]

...

[marble hemlock]

bavaria isnt germany

[rotund oak]

u hate ur own ppl

[marble hemlock]

dont @ me

bavarians arent germans

and they dont wanna be germans either, seeing how they constantly think theyre better than everyone else

[rotund oak]

u are all genetically germans

but ye idk whats that,u can have ur fight

i just want friends and hav fun

[marble hemlock]

fair

[rotund oak]

ofc its fair,u are unfair with me

and poor whispyr ofc

missed the beer and bratwursts

and meeting two nice dudes,one of them iconic rogue

[marble hemlock]

i dont really meet people

still havent met whispyr

[rare jackal]

real and true

[rotund oak]

[subtle tundra]

problem is, he is a cat

[royal lantern]

just suck money out of the other states for decades until you are the richest one, and then complain about others sometimes wanting a better money distribution

#freistatbayern

[subtle tundra]

i wish ill get to meet my finnish bf from my guild

that would be funky

[golden loom]

Come to finland 🇫🇮

[pastel cradle]

do you guys swap Ironwire for twist the knife in higher keys?

[subtle tundra]

you remove iron wire when you can communicate with your team about stops

[warm vortex]

Keep forgetting that a 10:00-17-00 uni day is more like 8:20-18:00 due to traveling n shit

[final star]

wow it's just like having a job

[fathom flax]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/US/Frostmourne/Orrockk?boss=2921

WHY DO I SUCK

(ignore the suicide at the end)

[balmy condor]

holding dps in first intermission, giga slow kill

[rare jackal]

deathmark windows also looking a bit jank

[balmy condor]

9 poisoned knife casts

yeh you're just missing full cd windows cause of how your guild is timing the fight

[fathom flax]

😦

[balmy condor]

2 kingsbanes and a deathmark

from what it looks like

4 shivs

[royal lantern]

mate you died at the end

[fathom flax]

i stepped to the tank

as a meme

[balmy condor]

well he died at the end end

shouldn't matter much

but yeh this is kinda roughie

[dawn seal]

I find it funny

When some people call their class unplayable

When they don't even try to learn it

[balmy condor]

also you are just like not cleaving bleeds right

[dawn seal]

Are there any unplayable classes

I don't think so right?

[fathom flax]

only me on silken

[balmy condor]

maybe also a guild issue

but your cleave looks atrocious

[fathom flax]

no its me

I only came in for farm so i have like 20 pulls on it

[balmy condor]

I mean even your caustic looks terrible

that's probably not you

although probably looks terrible cause no cds

so nvm

[gilded dune]

Boom roasted

[dawn seal]

Even If u hold intermission

[balmy condor]

I think there's also downtime issues though cause just the amount of melee hits is pretty low me thinks

[dawn seal]

I think u can just send it btw

[warm vortex]

Bro someone’s watching fucking Tom and Jerry in the lecture

[dawn seal]

When u hold shield 5 people can pump ir

Pump it and u make it on tim3

[balmy condor]

I mean if you hold intermission everything desyncs

and then you have to play around the damage windows

which isn't the move

[dawn seal]

Yeah so he needs to send it

[balmy condor]

well he can't

[clever sapphire]

so what, are you jealous of him having fun?

[balmy condor]

his guild is holding

[dawn seal]

I had the same issue

[warm vortex]

No I just find it funny

[dawn seal]

But u come out on time

[balmy condor]

what

[dawn seal]

Even If he sends

[balmy condor]

he's not sending

[fathom flax]

are you talking about intermission

[balmy condor]

his guild is holding

what are we doing

[dawn seal]

Yes

So basically when u hold shield and stop dps on it

U wanna come out on a certain timing

[balmy condor]

I am very interested

[dawn seal]

Right ?

[rare jackal]

crying

[balmy condor]

in how you're going to try and tell me

to send cds

on a dps hold

this is peaking my interest

[dawn seal]

No I am not trying to

Like when the strategy is stop dps on shield u still wanna kill it on a certain time

[balmy condor]

correct

[dawn seal]

There are probably people in thr group not holding

5 6 people

And 8 9 people are holding

[balmy condor]

what

[dawn seal]

On my silken prog

We had 5 people constantly blasting intermission

[balmy condor]

yes

your guild is full of idiots

[dawn seal]

But we still had come out

[balmy condor]

we are aware

[fathom flax]

`we had like 1m hp left on shield we were so close to fucking it haha

[dawn seal]

Yes but we still come out of intermission on correct timing

[warm vortex]

Whispyr watching people tell him how to play his class (he literally writes guides for them)

[balmy condor]

I don't understand what the suggestion here is

[dawn seal]

I am not telling him how to play his class no

[balmy condor]

it's a dps hold

[dawn seal]

Yes

[balmy condor]

okay

so where is he casting cds then

[dawn seal]

He can still full send on shield if most people wait so it evens out

And his cds are not fucked

[clever sapphire]

so he is blatantly trolling no?

[dawn seal]

It's dps hold yes

No

[clever sapphire]

if you are told to hold and you send

you are a troll

afaik

[dawn seal]

Weak aura tells u went exit intermission

With a bar

U dps accordingly and not too much no ?

[balmy condor]

okay so this is a rogue sending cds on intermission yes

and this is a rogue holding

[warm vortex]

Me rn

[clever sapphire]

i can see myself in the 2nd picture

[balmy condor]

you want him to just do 54 mil damage more?

[dawn seal]

I thought problem was him holding fucked up his timings

[balmy condor]

yes

[dawn seal]

Then yes

[balmy condor]

okay so you're dense as shit or what

[clever sapphire]

wait im also holding, am i also cooked if we ever kill the boss

fack

[dawn seal]

I think u still achive holding

Purpose

[warm vortex]

What’s even the situation

[dawn seal]

If 2 3 people send it

[balmy condor]

brother

his whole guild is holding

if he sends cooldowns he is doing the damage of 4 dps

[dawn seal]

Can we elaborate holding

[balmy condor]

FOUR dps

[clever sapphire]

guy is graylogging, missing on cooldowns afaik by holding. Yellow guy is saying to just send because a few people sending wont matter, purple guy is saying to hold since people are holding

[balmy condor]

are you trying to get him gkicked

[dawn seal]

Cuz I don't hit damage buttons when I hold

No

I am not

[balmy condor]

okay well then what the fuck are you talking about mate

he can't just roll up and do the damage of the next 4 dps combined

[dawn seal]

I wanna check other people's dps on intermission on log to see if I am an idiot

[balmy condor]

no need, I got you

left is holding

right is not

[warm vortex]

I mean if you send in ads don’t they like die before it fully goes in?
Or am I misunderstanding
It sounds more useful to dump everything you can inside Ansurek no?

[balmy condor]

this is court

[warm vortex]

I was gonna say that’s insane queen dps

[dawn seal]

Hm

[warm vortex]

I was like “what the fuck happened since I stopped”

[dawn seal]

Okay but for example what I was trying to say

Thst frost mage is not really holding

[balmy condor]

he is

[clever sapphire]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LX2Z3qH49p6ygRwN?fight=41&source=32&type=damage-done
@balmy condor just out of interest, is my log gonna be cooked with my cd timings (no need to do a full review, just interested if my cd timings are gonna be fecked, and also you guys have another comparison from a progging guild ig)

also i got hella confused on where im sending p3, was our first time there

[balmy condor]

you gotta send right at the start

on the caster dude

[warm vortex]

Is mythic court the new wall btw

[balmy condor]

but yeh your guild is holding as well

[clever sapphire]

that was my plan, didnt see any other way to not just hold for a minute or so

[balmy condor]

F to parse

[warm vortex]

When I was last here everyone was on ovinax

[balmy condor]

court isn't really a wall

it's just really awkward cd timing

[clever sapphire]

ovinax and kyveza are kinda dps checked by this point

[clever sapphire]

fun fact, we never got told to hold

[balmy condor]

xd?

okay well then you're good to go

just move everything to pull

[dawn seal]

So wait when u hold

[balmy condor]

and go on cd

you're good to go

[dawn seal]

Do u guys still do damage

[warm vortex]

Ah ok

[red schooner]

We never hold on court cos we keep losing people on intermission so we try to end that shit immediately

[warm vortex]

Whisper

[red schooner]

We... Are not good at this

[warm vortex]

What do you think of the raid this tier

[balmy condor]

depends but yes

[dawn seal]

But not pop cds

[clever sapphire]

wait really? thought waiting for first charge to do the dmg is better

[balmy condor]

correct

[dawn seal]

I legit don't hit and dps buttons

[balmy condor]

not with your timing bud

[subtle tundra]

i dont even know how to get colors on silken court!

[dawn seal]

It's my bad then

[warm vortex]

Most of the time I just send my cds when they are up
It seems to have marked so far

[dawn seal]

I thought everyone would almost afk

That's why i said what i eaid

[balmy condor]

everyone chips the shield a little

[red schooner]

My biggest court issue is managing deathstalkers mark at the moment, it's annoying.

[balmy condor]

holding cds means the shield survives

[dawn seal]

Yeah mb I got confused

I was asked to do

[balmy condor]

just hold darkest night before intermissions

[clever sapphire]

well, might try just sending for a few trys and see if it changes much where my raidlead gets confused

[red schooner]

Rip the pull where you accidentally darkest night envenom the wrong boss

[dawn seal]

0 damage

[red schooner]

Ye I try to I just sometimes send it

And then realise too late

Skill issue ik

[balmy condor]

yeah like the issue for you is that if you hold for the charge on that kill time you miss a full deathmark and a kb

[red schooner]

Getting less frequent now I'm getting a feeling for the fight, early pulls deathstalkers went fucking everywhere

[balmy condor]

so 2 kbs

[hardy dagger]

Pretty common to get two sets of balls on court now if you don't hold

[clever sapphire]

ah, so just sending is better for overall even if im not getting much out of the dmg amps

got it

[balmy condor]

yeah

the problem comes if you're holding

cause if you send on pull

[clever sapphire]

and here i thought i was smart by holding till charge

[balmy condor]

your cds come back up for the shield

which means if your guild holds for the intermission

you end up losing the casts again

just through that

so in that case you then move to the damage amps

cause then you just get more out of it

[clever sapphire]

mhm, ye and it just adds up over the fight got it

[balmy condor]

but I think realisitically with how kill times are with full threads buff and ring now

[real pike]

I've just accepted I'll never get a good SC parse

[balmy condor]

if you have to hold dps in first intermission

you just never parse

ask me how I know

[real pike]

Wasn't your last SC parse grey before that :>

[subtle tundra]

i thought you were good at the game

why cant you get above a green

[balmy condor]

I died on every kill pull before

[real pike]

hate that especially when you've died least over the night and then get unlucky for the kill

[balmy condor]

no one in my raid is getting a parse

cause our strat is so giga shit for it

[subtle tundra]

how are they close to my parse on it

[dawn seal]

[hardy dagger]

No way you guys are still holding?

[red schooner]

That druid though, popping off

[balmy condor]

[dawn seal]

Whispyr omf u are goated

[red schooner]

What a champ

[warm vortex]

Sure… that’s what they all say

[balmy condor]

I think next week we don't hold

[subtle tundra]

somehow that fire mage is very very close to my parse

[balmy condor]

but this week we did for safety

[hardy dagger]

[subtle tundra]

way too close

[dawn seal]

Is the reason to hold is to have healer cds

That's what they told me

[balmy condor]

yes

[dawn seal]

What healer has a 3min cd tho

[real pike]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Q32J8WHtAgCbVZrG?fight=44&type=damage-done

Whispyr possible to tell from a quick look at my last kill log if I'd be better off sending at start?

[clever sapphire]

so im taking notes from someone thats green parsing, i dunno chief

[subtle tundra]

if you get out of intermission at 3 minutes it doesnt mean the cds are 3 min

[real pike]

I tried it for a couple of pulls and it seemed to be similar dmg but I'm not sure

[subtle tundra]

if they used at 1 min mark, it is a 2 min cd

[clever sapphire]

i mean i gave up on parsing at ovinax

good thing to know that i should also give up on court

(in case they tell me to now hold)

[balmy condor]

yes

[golden loom]

Just do 6m dps on ovi and take rank 1, or are u bad? @clever sapphire

[balmy condor]

losing a full dm

[real pike]

sweet I much prefer that

[dawn seal]

Guys I have a 3 parse on silken

[balmy condor]

yikes

[dawn seal]

But I made the kill possible

[real pike]

RL might have an aneurysm in intermission but

[dawn seal]

Someone got displeled wrong and I ended up having 3 dispells

[balmy condor]

I have a 4 parse on silken but I died 5:30 into an 8:30 kill

[dawn seal]

But I jumped under boss

And saved the day before I die 2nd time

[balmy condor]

SECOND time

what was the first

[cinder steppe]

Hug me brother I have a 4 but I died sacrificing myseflt to take some orbs and a blue guy rammed into me

[dawn seal]

Intermission .mm

We had dead tanks on kill

[balmy condor]

call me a blue guy

[dawn seal]

We had 2 tanks dead and we kited boss to kill

[balmy condor]

[clever sapphire]

yes, actually i am

[golden loom]

Kited??

[clever sapphire]

i suck at not killing parasites

[real pike]

I had a 99 parse going at like 20%, everything was going right for me and the tank trolled us with the health based raid damage

[balmy condor]

why is every story from your raid insane

[dawn seal]

Yes

[dawn seal]

IKR

[clever sapphire]

were you doing 5M dps?

[golden loom]

U guys are playing a different game

[cinder steppe]

Did you play blue side on court?

[dawn seal]

Wait nvm

[balmy condor]

it's either braindead or just the most ridiculous series of events I have every heard

[balmy condor]

no :(

I'm a web

[dawn seal]

I almost bricked

[cinder steppe]

Oh shoot

[dawn seal]

The kill

I was the kne one dispelled wrong

[subtle tundra]

im almost bricked

[dawn seal]

KEKW

But then I saved the day

[balmy condor]

scale of 1 to 10?

[subtle tundra]

6.34

[cinder steppe]

I was red but not web, but even if i didnt die on the kill, with the strat of reds doing the last webs and ignoring 2 100% more damage windows it would be pretty shit lol, i hate this boss so much

[dawn seal]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/83nyJD6WzMa47xvK?fight=14&type=damage-done

Check the replay

For last dispells before I die

[balmy condor]

hope this gets you to at least an 8

[dawn seal]

Hilarious

[warm vortex]

Whispyr, just wanna say how grateful I am for the guide. Incredibly helpful and always useful to use ❤️

[real pike]

I most certainly was not

[balmy condor]

yeah boss is terrible

[subtle tundra]

[balmy condor]

no?

[dawn seal]

I legit omega troll throw kill pull then save it

[balmy condor]

where are we at now varas

[clever sapphire]

well then how did you have a 99, 100 is doing 5M dps or so

[golden loom]

Does ur rogue play all 3 specs?

[real pike]

this was in November

[clever sapphire]

oh

mb

[dawn seal]

Yes

He is awesoome

[golden loom]

Freaky behavior

[cinder steppe]

I just wanted out, legit yesterday was maddening, i died like 4 consecutive tries because people killed me with betrayal, on a 300+ tries night

[balmy condor]

gonna get better in s2 I hope

[dawn seal]

He is such a cool dude

[clever sapphire]

but there is only 2 rogue specs

[real pike]

I haven't managed to get a kyveza parse without the dashes giga trolling me yet

hopefully tonight is the night

[warm vortex]

What
The game
The guide
You

[golden loom]

He has outlaw and sin logs and sub on queen I think

[balmy condor]

yes

[dawn seal]

Yes

He is a goated outlaw I think but plaus others too

[golden loom]

Nice

[clever sapphire]

playing sub and sin sits well with me, but i could never raid as outlaw aswell

[dawn seal]

I made a wrong choice for being fire on silken kill

[clever sapphire]

my brain would just hate not having good stats for it (ik stats are a meme)

[dawn seal]

I wanted to shoot myself in th3 head when holding

Intermission

[cinder steppe]

I just hope queen is a much better boss for progress, hopefully we can kill it before end of patch, starting today with it

[balmy condor]

queen is nicer

[clever sapphire]

arcane is the only way to play mage (fire is fine too ig)

[balmy condor]

but it's a bit of a p1 simulator

you get to p3 and it falls over

bit strange

[dawn seal]

Not when u hold intermission

[balmy condor]

but such is how dps works

[dawn seal]

Holding intermission as fire is omega cringe

[spare wagon]

Hey guys I just popped in here.

I am looking for a wow server that is focused on text rp. Do you guys do any of that here or know where I can find a group of wow players who will text rp

[dawn seal]

As a flat dps spec

U sit on combust skb

And don't stack controllee destruction

[golden loom]

Do you think there is too much execute damage in the game? Or are you a fan of it

[balmy condor]

I think rp realms will have their own servers for the realm or something I'm not sure though that's a very different world

[dawn seal]

Omg people in my group doesn't beliebe execute dps

Btw

Are u guys surprised

[balmy condor]

I think classes should be more diverse even

[clever sapphire]

ngl, i have barely any idea about fire

[balmy condor]

more execute from the execute classes

[golden loom]

Radical take

[balmy condor]

negative execute from the non executes

[radiant raven]

If you are EU, then it's Argent Dawn.

[balmy condor]

shit like the dev evoker mastery

do that

[warm vortex]

What did everyone think of palace btw?
As someone who did all of normal, all of heroic and half mythic
I think it was fun
Had some highlights
Loved bloodbound, long execute rash’nan was fun, kyveza was fun and I liked a bit of queen

[golden loom]

Its kinda crazy how pressing execute in execute phase as fury does nothing, but bloodthirst has an increased damage at 35% hp

[dawn seal]

Best realm on eu

[balmy condor]

mid as fuck

[real pike]

agree with this, kyveza is one of the most fun fights I've ever done though I think

[balmy condor]

the best bosses were fine, the worst bosses were dogshit horrendous

[dawn seal]

https://tenor.com/view/okarun-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-okarun-ken-takakura-gif-13879904916108947470

[balmy condor]

I think kyveza is okay for what it is

it was fun

[golden loom]

Is Kyveza gonna return like that artificer guy

[balmy condor]

but I think people overhype it because of how shit ovi'nax and court are

like yeah if I serve you peanut butter between two pieces of moldy bread

[dawn seal]

I thought court was most fun boss

[balmy condor]

you're gonna tell me the peanut butter is the best thing ever

[clever sapphire]

there wasnt a single fight where i went WOW, every fight was just meh

[balmy condor]

if the bread were better

the peanut butter wouldn't be the best thing ever anymore

[radiant raven]

But it's purple peanut butter which is pretty cool and novel

[balmy condor]

ky'veza just ended up being a breath of relief between horrid bosses

[golden loom]

Tbh I say cinema everytime I fight kyveza, and I've only done her on heroic

[real pike]

idk peanut butter is pretty good like

[dawn seal]

Why are guild applications ar3 like job applications

[clever sapphire]

i agree with whispyr tho, kyveza was good because the boss before and after were just garbage

[hollow dirge]

as somebody who likes anything nerubian, I found it to be average, so I can imagine somebody with different preference, not liking it at all. court, ovi'nax mythic were terrible, probably most annoying bosses in a while, ky'veza I liked, and I think that should be general direction for bosses, but I also do think it was a bit overhyped

[clever sapphire]

also rashanan should have been boss 1

[real pike]

cause high level raiding is like a job

[dawn seal]

The other day they asked me why I left my last guild

[balmy condor]

because you're spending probably 20 hours a week with the rest of the guild and they're relying on you to do your responsibilities in order to succeed

which yeah

sounds a lot like a job

[dawn seal]

I didn't they also asked me why I don't have all my chars on 1 guild to provide them with flexibility

[golden loom]

Im looking for a 1 night per week guild that gets me CE without me having to prog anything

[balmy condor]

reasonable question

[dawn seal]

Is it maniac behaviour to mythic raid with 3 different characters

[balmy condor]

yes

[dawn seal]

6 days a week

[balmy condor]

yes

[dawn seal]

Man I just love raiding

[spare wagon]

Thank you i will look for it

[dawn seal]

I hate lockouts

[clever sapphire]

tbh i think i would love raiding a lot more without lockouts

[real pike]

I love raiding but you gotta get outside sometimes bro

see your family

[radiant raven]

what, like an outdoor raid like classic?

[dawn seal]

I send my family my weekly parses

[mighty crown]

early

[golden loom]

You mean play classic wow?

[warm vortex]

Least it wasn’t bad ig

[real pike]

fuck sake

[dawn seal]

Still trying to impress my dad

[balmy condor]

my availability is 6-8:30pm every sunday and I would like to clear top 200 and no I don't have time to farm M+ for vault

also I am survival one trick

and will not play ranged

[golden loom]

Thats me

And then im still logged in perma

[dawn seal]

Boyx

[clever sapphire]

respectable

[real pike]

man watching ranged povs looks so ez mode

[dawn seal]

Wait how is it 20 hours

[warm vortex]

Fair my view is from a super autistic 19 (or I was 18 when I raided it) rogue who plays semi casually
Like I go for 3K rating and curve and that’s it

[dawn seal]

I thought it's like 6

[real pike]

including m+ etc I suppose

[dawn seal]

Oh

[real pike]

I would love to be in a guild that raids 20+ hours a week but I will make do with my 5.5

[dawn seal]

I wish I could raid with 1 char

[golden loom]

Ye?

[dawn seal]

More than 1 day

[balmy condor]

most higher end guilds do around 9-12 hours just raiding, and then you still gotta do keys for vault + weeklies + any farming for trinkets

[dawn seal]

Oh

[clever sapphire]

i got to 2960 rio and gave up, signing for 13s is pure hell

[dawn seal]

Big leagues

Omg

[real pike]

god even 9-12 hours sounds like a dream

[balmy condor]

I wouldn't call it big leagues

[dawn seal]

What does liquid do

[balmy condor]

your guild is just hell

What does LIQUID DO?

[dawn seal]

Are u in liquidn

I thought u were

[balmy condor]

bro u cannot be fr

[real pike]

they raid in world of warcraft

[dawn seal]

Wdym I thought u were

[warm vortex]

Fair

[golden loom]

Liquid is a 1 night per week guild outside of race

[subtle tundra]

no,no they stop playing

and log in on patch day

[dawn seal]

They have streamers thet raid with no

[golden loom]

Yeah 1 night of gaming duh

[balmy condor]

when expac releases they prep 10 characters to max, then run 20+ heroic clears week 1 and then do 14 hour raid days

[royal lantern]

chillin with 6hours a week

and still got CE faster then whisp

[balmy condor]

until the raid is over

[royal lantern]

[warm vortex]

I remember I listed my own 14 SoB after + 2ing a 12 Ara
And I did it to take the piss
We get to the big ugly giant with like a shit ton of time left and I remember the excitement of thinking
(Wait am I good? I gonna do this?)

[dawn seal]

I saw preheat in some of their kills

I thought u were there too

Mb

[real pike]

what rio world rank were you?

[clever sapphire]

are you taking more rogues, asking for a friend

[subtle tundra]

rio deez 🥜

[warm vortex]

Nono we all know you are the liquid team leader don’t fool us!

[royal lantern]

700something

leme Check

[subtle tundra]

casual

[real pike]

wait does that mean I got it quicker than whispyr

[balmy condor]

probably

my guild nearly fell apart this tier

[dawn seal]

Whispyr do u have ur own guild

[balmy condor]

what does that mean

[real pike]

I am now better rogue, I shall ignore all external advice and possibly write the wowhead guide going forward

[balmy condor]

like am I the guild lead?

[dawn seal]

Yes

[balmy condor]

no

[dawn seal]

Ohh

[royal lantern]

698 with 2days 3hours, just checked

[subtle tundra]

my head hurty...

[dawn seal]

I am cooked

[balmy condor]

now you're talking like a true m+ player

[subtle tundra]

whispyr is the guild master of liquid i think

he was giving lessons to their rogue

[dawn seal]

Woa damn

That's hella cool

[subtle tundra]

basically owns the org ngl

[balmy condor]

[dawn seal]

Realm 40

Is too clean

Gj

[harsh wraith]

@balmy condor would you mind giving your feed back on this log? I'm progressing silken court, red side, doing webs. Thx for your time 😄https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/yqaC9TNWtMwZp62r

[golden loom]

40/40 guilds

[balmy condor]

yeah the number no one gives a shit about

[royal lantern]

i think our moost searched classes rn are Evoker>>>>>>>>>>Mage/Shaman

[dawn seal]

[subtle tundra]

region 249?!?!? (NA RANKINGS ARE ALL THAT MATTER)

[golden loom]

I will be your dragon

[subtle tundra]

BETTER THAN WORLD 249

[dawn seal]

Do people have rogues in world firsr

[subtle tundra]

CAUSE WORLD HAS ALL THE OTHER REGIONS

[clever sapphire]

unlucky, not touching ranged

[dawn seal]

Do we have any raid buffs

[clever sapphire]

i mean my buddy of course

[balmy condor]

move cds to pull

[royal lantern]

all classes get played cus of raidbuffs

[real pike]

where does it show the time taken?

[golden loom]

Atrophic poison

[clever sapphire]

atrophic poison

[balmy condor]

https://progstats.io/

[subtle tundra]

real 2 pog youre 20 times better than whispyr

[dawn seal]

What does dk have

[royal lantern]

we are close to a 14melee dps comp allready

[dawn seal]

Dk won't have one

[real pike]

https://tenor.com/view/who-dat-snoop-gif-15116696

[golden loom]

Grip and needed on ovi

[dawn seal]

Raid buffs

Tho

[balmy condor]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[golden loom]

Yeah they dont have a traditional raid buff

[clever sapphire]

we have like 6 melees, if even (im not counting the feckin 4 ret palas as melee)

[dawn seal]

Ohh

[subtle tundra]

thats cool

[golden loom]

You still need dks in some fights and u gotta gear them

[subtle tundra]

private cocker

[dawn seal]

Omg

U gotta baby sit dks

As well

[harsh wraith]

Is it because i loose dm usage ? I'll need to convince my rl so, that's why i'm asking 😄

[dawn seal]

[royal lantern]

DK/warlock have grip/amz and gate/healthstones, and some fights on mythic are balanced around them

[golden loom]

I mean for example, what raid buff does hunter have on rashanan?

[dawn seal]

Hm

Hunte rmarkk

[subtle tundra]

+aura

[dawn seal]

Mark

[balmy condor]

I mean yes, but why would you need to convince your raid leader, you guys aren't holding the first intermission

[subtle tundra]

he is unaware

[golden loom]

Yeah what does hunters mark do on rashanan

[subtle tundra]

what does mark do?

[real pike]

damn this is cool never knew this site existed

[dawn seal]

Oh

Hp

[golden loom]

[dawn seal]

HP IS BELOW 80

But that doesn't count ez boss starts low hp

[subtle tundra]

execute boss 😉

[golden loom]

Yeah but hunters mark does nothing

[dawn seal]

Bench

Hunters

Ez

[golden loom]

Give hunters trueshot aura

[dawn seal]

Bench em

No raid buff

I am such a great leader

[harsh wraith]

i was scolded for using cds at start, both he and our log guys are forcing cds during first charge (mage and hunter are exonerated). Thx for your feedback, much appreciated 😄

[dawn seal]

I finally recrsfted my miserable embelishments

[balmy condor]

that's insane

[dawn seal]

I appersntly had a

[clever sapphire]

never take advice about CD usage from someone that has no idea about your spec

[dawn seal]

CRit vers nexk

Neck

[balmy condor]

but yeh you guys are on pace for >8 min

[subtle tundra]

if someone that doesnt play my spec scolds me for how i play i tell them to fuck off

[dawn seal]

As well

[harsh wraith]

yep, i can confirm

[balmy condor]

so you're just losing

[dawn seal]

In one of the guilds I am in

[subtle tundra]

but i just have ego...

comes with the size of the tool

nothing to do about it

[dawn seal]

Rl just explained a how rejuvenation works to a resto druid

[golden loom]

I mean a bunch of people have no idea what the class they play does

People do not read

[clever sapphire]

now the question is, did the druid know it or did he legit have no idea

[balmy condor]

this is the side by side

you're doing the top holding for charges

[dawn seal]

I don't find it nice to micro manage people's classes idk

Feels wrong

People should know their class or study em

[real pike]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/pzdZjPw6XFTHW3yn?fight=30&type=damage-done&source=45

any advice on how I can improve my queen parse? apart from trying to convince my RL not to assign me to the furthest away essence in the second set lmao

[dawn seal]

I usually watch class vods before bosses

[balmy condor]

yeah that's how normal guilds work typically

raid leaders don't care what you do dps wise unless there's a dps hold or something

[royal lantern]

^

do mechanics

and dont do negative dps

thats all they care about

[dawn seal]

We are about to plan healing cds

[harsh wraith]

ok, i'll try that tonight, muche appreciated 😄

[dawn seal]

For kyveza

Feels so wrong

We are doing 5 healer

And healers say they go oom

Before frist intermission

[balmy condor]

are you using a deathmark in p2

[golden loom]

I have no idea about the fight but that sounds wrong

[balmy condor]

that's cooked

[dawn seal]

Is it even possible

[clever sapphire]

tell your group to equipp all healing gems, and play with only 3 healers

[dawn seal]

[warm vortex]

Guys help I started learning math in computer science
Small brain

[dawn seal]

My warrior does 600k dps

[warm vortex]

This

We need to send love to raid leaders

[dawn seal]

And says bad class I am rerolling

[warm vortex]

The one in my guild has such a hard job

[harsh wraith]

Well, i'm pretty chill about that. I mean, if my rl asks something from me, i'll just comply. If i have any issues during the fight, i'll try to politely talk about that, giving evidence why i need to do things in a certain way 😄

[golden loom]

Like mr president you somehow managed to join multiple guilds that are cooked and fried

[real pike]

yeah it's kind of scuffed I'm assigned to the expeller on my platform and if I DM it dies with ~6s left on the DM and if I don't it dies a bit slowly and I don't get an extra one off at the end

[dawn seal]

Yes

I am so good

[balmy condor]

bro

oh nah

[golden loom]

Single target warrior is cooked but not 600k cooked

[dawn seal]

It cranks me up

[balmy condor]

oh hell nah

you're getting 3 KB ticks in p2

bro you're rinsed

[real pike]

😦

[dawn seal]

[clever sapphire]

is he still in DF gear maybe?

[golden loom]

Look at his name @balmy condor , he is just missing combat

[real pike]

so use KB and hold DM there?

[dawn seal]

Bring bottom dps as a fury warrior

In ovinax

Imagine

639

Ntw

Btw

And say bad class

[golden loom]

Well thats fried

[balmy condor]

yeah maybe but I.'

im not sure

[real pike]

oh no

I'm causing another whispyr malfunction

[balmy condor]

cause idk if you'd even have kb up

[warm vortex]

Btw everyone
Hope your morning/midday/afternoon/evening is going swell

[balmy condor]

no my fucking cat is a dipshit

[real pike]

can relate

[subtle tundra]

no

[real pike]

I think I need to use KB though or the expeller doesn't die along with everything else

[clever sapphire]

(love how you didnt miss the midday part now )

[balmy condor]

yeh if you KB the add you're DMing right now

it's not up in time

I think it's still an improvement though

but it's still cooked

[real pike]

not up in time for what sorry

I am idiot

[balmy condor]

start of p3

[real pike]

oh yeah nah it's not

[balmy condor]

start of p3 you have like a full 25 seconds of just dps

[real pike]

so I just accept we have unfortunate timings ig

[balmy condor]

yeh I mean for sure move the dm

[warm vortex]

Why tho

[balmy condor]

that's just strictly better

[real pike]

I think I have to kb the add or I get in trouble

[balmy condor]

but yeh it's fucked

[warm vortex]

Stupid trash panda

[balmy condor]

yeh yeh

just KB the add

move the DM

[subtle tundra]

cause im a bitter and angry person

[real pike]

sick

[balmy condor]

you get 2 dm's in p3

[subtle tundra]

that cant feel happy

[warm vortex]

We know

Just be happy like ???

[balmy condor]

this light box is your p3

that's your dm

[subtle tundra]

i was 18 once too and i was happy all the time

[balmy condor]

so if you move the DM you get a full dm at 5:20 with your KB that comes back up

[warm vortex]

Why don’t we just
Get more kingsbane poison
Prep before raid and fill the kingsbane with 2x as much poison before you jab it into someone

[balmy condor]

and then 7:20

[warm vortex]

I was 18 once too

[balmy condor]

+1 dm and the dm you're already using is just strictly better

ggwp

[real pike]

this sometimes happens just as the boss is unreachable

but it is what it is

[subtle tundra]

not sometimes, always

whatever who cares

1 random kb thats slightly worse

but much better cd timings

[real pike]

oh yeah I 100% hold the DM in p2

[balmy condor]

yeah I mean it's either that and you get an extra cast or you're slamming dm into an add that dies in uh...... 7.3 seconds

[warm vortex]

Imagine if we could just
DM KB
KB
DM KB
KB
DM KB
Every boss fight with ease

[real pike]

imagine

[subtle tundra]

i do that already

fym

[balmy condor]

sorry 6.3

[warm vortex]

Just need to wait for some big dumb guy that doesn’t move or spawn anything

[balmy condor]

the add you're pressing dm on

doesn't last to your second shiv

incredible

[real pike]

yeah for sure it's been feeling bad but I didn't realise it was that bad

[balmy condor]

yeh

[real pike]

cause I just do so much damage right????

say yes

[balmy condor]

I mean is there literally anyone else that can hit this thing

you're slamming 2mins into this thing

and you're not even cranking it

you're like

just kinda above some other people

[royal lantern]

must resist

[balmy condor]

you're barely beating this boomkin and he's not even hitting the fucking add

he's just cleaving it with starfall

[real pike]

😦

[balmy condor]

well I guess different chamber expeller

but like

there's gotta be something better

[real pike]

I'm trying to find the table with all our assigned cds

but think we all have something

[balmy condor]

I mean lowkey the fact that you're assigned cds on the fucking caster that gets insta nuked

is already a bit strange

[subtle tundra]

only kingsbane

yourwelcome

[warm vortex]

Guys help

[dawn seal]

Is it cuz

[real pike]

ngl when I don't DM it it doesn't die that fast at all

[balmy condor]

is your raid asleep?

[dawn seal]

His rl doesn't know how assa cds work

[warm vortex]

I’m reminded how much Covid fucked up my early learning

[royal lantern]

was asinged aswell and just silently stopped doing it after 4pulls lol

[dawn seal]

My rl thinks I am poping icy veins in 2nd platform

[real pike]

even when I KB and don't DM it it dies after every single other add on that platform

but that's probably fine

it's not long after

and others can help hit it like

[balmy condor]

vision supposed to be hitting the expeller?

according to that

[real pike]

bloody vision

[royal lantern]

cant help, im a fumb fuck

[real pike]

this is the real war crime tho

[warm vortex]

Holy fuck shout out to my professor

[balmy condor]

yeah that's fine

I'm assigned that one too

[real pike]

parse killer tho

[balmy condor]

just skip it

[warm vortex]

“I see you have a 30 min break before you have to sit in the same room for 5 hours. I’ll end the lecture 30 min early so you get an hour break”

[balmy condor]

I mean not really a parse killer

[warm vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[balmy condor]

you just kill before that one spawns

[real pike]

maybe I'm doing it wrong

[balmy condor]

[real pike]

oh

LOL

I'll try tonight

maybe with my extra DM

[balmy condor]

I doubt it

you would need to be a full 30 seconds faster

I think your guild is just shit

y'all could technically do it I think with your p1 damage just at a quick glance

think it's totally possible, if not a bit close

[real pike]

less shit than yours tho if we got ce quicker

[dawn seal]

I am praying that we reach p3

[real pike]

nah thanks for the advice I really appreciate it

[balmy condor]

but as long as you guys are slamming 2mins into platform adds

[dawn seal]

And kill boss

[balmy condor]

it's just fucked

[dawn seal]

I started feeling

P2 wipes I am having is healing issue

[real pike]

tbf most people are probably holding 2mins and just sending 1mins etc

[balmy condor]

I'd hope so

[real pike]

our dps are pretty good at knowing what works best for ourselves

[balmy condor]

but yeah if you wanna be on pace for beating the second ring

you gotta be pushing into p2 at like high 42 minimum

and then crank

[subtle tundra]

🤨

[dawn seal]

42% is okayish for ring skip right

[subtle tundra]

we havent been consistantly skipping 2nd ring tbf

[dawn seal]

After p2 u slam cds

[real pike]

think we're around 44/45

[balmy condor]

yeh 42% can skip ring

[dawn seal]

My rl is cooked man he is like we can do better

Phase at 38

[subtle tundra]

but idk doing ring is whatever

[dawn seal]

[dawn seal]

Rwally

[subtle tundra]

nothing is happening

[dawn seal]

I thought it was so hard

[subtle tundra]

go pick your essence

[balmy condor]

I mean second ring isn't bad

[dawn seal]

I think my group can't do it

[balmy condor]

but skipping it in this case means mr misser over here doesn't have to do a trek through the swiss alps for a hot potato

[dawn seal]

I also don't know if I cam

[subtle tundra]

fuck you mean you cant

you take your essence and blink

[warm vortex]

Whispyr
How do I kill the hardest boss in the game
The target dummy

[dawn seal]

I can

Teue