assassination

[dapper cradle]

don't think the APM changes much

[runic hinge]

NO CHANGES

[dapper cradle]

it just changes the order of casts a bit

you might sprinkle in more rolls

[balmy condor]

early TC says that you might just reroll rtb a bit more

and uh

that's it

as far as I understand

which is BULLSHIT

AND IM MAD

[dapper cradle]

they're making it so if you roll

[balmy condor]

[dapper cradle]

you auto buy a wow token

after every roll

[runic hinge]

That’s a good gamble

[slate crown]

based

grats btw

[lethal arrow]

sub 250 pulls

[slate crown]

big rerolla

[lethal arrow]

respectfully id rather not play outlaw

that shi ass with any amount of lag

[tawdry halo]

#bringbackoriginalcombat

[runic hinge]

LETS GO GAMBLING

[slate crown]

dog that shit was boring as fuck and just maintenance and no fun

[tawdry halo]

hey man i like what i like

[tawdry halo]

meet you in season 2 for goblin themed gamblestorm

[slate crown]

nice good shit, tell the haters

(I'm the haters)

[tawdry halo]

idk i just feel like john blizzard's nephew was like "do you like pirates or ninjas" and thats how they massacred my boy combat

luckily assassin still fun

[dapper cradle]

[runic hinge]

Same bestie

[steel heart]

What can I give up to take double stealth?

Or double vanish rather

[balmy condor]

well what are you taking

double vanish is kinda standard

[steel heart]

Let me see if I can pull it up

[balmy condor]

so whatever you're taking instead of that idk

[vagrant brook]

just be based and go forced induction

[novel star]

[balmy condor]

uhhh

wait actually what are you taking

I don't see supercharger and I don't see lethality

what the fuck lmao

[steel heart]

😂 sorry I am away from computer

[balmy condor]

doomed

just taking random utility points

[steel heart]

I just copied someone else’s

[balmy condor]

idk I can't visualize the tree in my head

but something is fucked

[balmy condor]

yeah that checks out

[steel heart]

Loool ok I’ll be back later

[coral ibex]

looks like partial FI tree partial cold blood tree?

[balmy condor]

there's no lethality or supercharger though

where are the points going

[coral ibex]

they have the auto attacks heal you thing at the top of the FI tree

and im pretty sure they have the thing above cold blood?

[dapper cradle]

FI tree?

[coral ibex]

forced induction

[dapper cradle]

oh word

[coral ibex]

oh no lethality

hmm

wtf

[balmy condor]

yeh

I am

lost

[runic hinge]

They took tea and then every other talent below that line

[balmy condor]

they're just not taking anything

[dapper cradle]

honestly based

you don't have to use all your points if you don't want to tbh

[coral ibex]

"yall use all your points?"

[dapper cradle]

wish you could just keep putting all of your points into whichever talent you want

i'd just put all my points into rapid injection

or path of blood

2900 energy

[steel heart]

Idk don’t laugh at me I have no clue what I’m doing I’m not even 80 yet and have never committed to playing a melee class before 😂

[balmy condor]

YOURE NOT 80

[steel heart]

🫠

[balmy condor]

well then you don't have all your talent points

[steel heart]

Almost there!

[native nimbus]

amazing

[balmy condor]

well yeah but can't really be a build

if you're missing things

[rancid wind]

On a fight like Court, how important is it to get DoTs on both bosses or the adds that spawn?

[balmy condor]

definitely should on the bosses whenever you can for the energy

the adds you can ignore

[rancid wind]

kk

[runic hinge]

Rogue is much better at 80! Keep on trucking

[rancid wind]

I simply cannot get a grasp on doing damage on Court

[dapper cradle]

how's it going king

what's your rogue alt's name

[rancid wind]

Babylonisus

[dapper cradle]

pog name

[rancid wind]

lol ty

it was that or Stabbylonius

[dapper cradle]

8 parse on court damn

better than me

i was deadge our first kill

[balmy condor]

I got a fat 47 today

[spice spire]

Mf log watching

[balmy condor]

was huge

[spice spire]

Ain’t no way

[rancid wind]

i dont understand the spec well enough to manage holding cooldowns and what to do in the meantime

[spice spire]

Bigly

[dapper cradle]

better than toilet watching

[balmy condor]

holding p1 intermission still

rip dps

[rancid wind]

yup, red side and holding damage during both intermissions

[balmy condor]

during BOTH?

oh brother you're boned

[rancid wind]

not as much during the 2nd

but not going wild on it

[balmy condor]

court is a strange one though

there's a lot of awkward cd windows

[spice spire]

Pilav moment

[balmy condor]

like after i2

you can just slam a deathmark

[spice spire]

Dog what

[balmy condor]

into the big caster

start of p3

which feels REALLY weird

[cunning cloak]

queen is dead, sweet sweet victory

[rancid wind]

yeah

[spice spire]

Gz homie

[balmy condor]

gz

[dapper cradle]

we had a 5% wipe tonight 😦

surely dies tomorrow

[balmy condor]

if you had 5% it dies in like 5 pulls

[spice spire]

It does tmrw

[balmy condor]

p3 is joke phase

[cunning cloak]

we had a .3% wipe... was awful

[balmy condor]

tilter

[dapper cradle]

honestly think I'll just go FB

still getting the hang of it

[balmy condor]

[dapper cradle]

I kept losing marks going into p2

like an absolute buffoon

[balmy condor]

purposely taking like a 5% dps loss to avoid getting skill issued

wild

[dapper cradle]

i mean, no mark DS

is like

how much worse % wise

[balmy condor]

probably just as bad

cause you get it back for p3

no mark p2 is probably equal to optimal fatebound p2

[dapper cradle]

i didn't try FB tonight, but maybe I'll just git gud and be better tomorrow

[balmy condor]

that's the spirit

[dawn heath]

Unintended consequence of the key level floor m+ change.

This will be the most boosted season in the history of m+

The incentive to buy specific keys has never been higher, and also there are no risks involved for the boosters cause their floor will be higher they can just run it back with the seller until they get it

It will be absolutely mad

[dawn seal]

I am gonna lose it

OMG

MAN SOME PEOPLE

Why do people care bout parse on prog

[earnest remnant]

cuz people are goblins

[drifting cloud]

some people are raccoons

[earnest remnant]

sounds like so weirdos

[golden loom]

🦝

[dawn seal]

Like we use the new dps ring strat which makes queen %40

And means we skip 2nd ring

Some people apperantly not happy that they won't parse so good

Like what

[earnest remnant]

fucking downing the end boss

[drifting cloud]

is it actually more raid dps

[earnest remnant]

its all about video game points on a website

[drifting cloud]

[dawn seal]

With this we do %7 more boss dps on p1

[clever sapphire]

afaik its around the same as just playing normally no?

[dawn seal]

So yes

No

[balmy condor]

last I checked it was about the same

[clever sapphire]

i mean it probably assumes that all your 14 dps are humans capable of playing their class

[dawn seal]

It might be cause we are not maybe playing all our classes to %100

[drifting cloud]

are you sure you didnt just start lusting pull aswell

7% sounds insane

[dawn seal]

Cuz with the ring we see %7 more raid damage on overall

We did 10 pulls without yesterdau

[clever sapphire]

do you have people die p1

[dawn seal]

No

[balmy condor]

okay when you say

"with the ring"

[earnest remnant]

[balmy condor]

what does that mean

[dawn seal]

So basically 16 people will use roaring

[earnest remnant]

oh

[balmy condor]

and what were you doing before that

[dawn seal]

4 people use thunder lords and roaring proce roaring procs roaring and they all find one thunderlords and proc it

I don't know what others gems do

Or use

[balmy condor]

yes okay

[dawn seal]

If we don't do strat

[balmy condor]

and what did you do before

[dawn seal]

Like I had thunderlords myself

Some people had all stat gem some people also had thunderlords

We did like 160 pulls normal without doing this

And our best pull was 47

With lust

This we seen 39.3%

I might be wrong

Do u wanna see the log

[balmy condor]

yes

[golden loom]

39%? You guys are gonna phase the boss urselves soon

[earnest remnant]

think we have it around 42%

with just normal gems

[dawn seal]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/jXfzvJ8hdqcrRnp2

This is last night

[clever sapphire]

but you are a 7% dmg buff by yourself, so its not a fair comparison

[dawn seal]

Someone said 39.3 not bae

Bad

But I haven't checked log myself

I might be lying about 39.3

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Q4fvzhKjt7XAcyCP

This is last week

Some people die but they die at intermission

Idk

[golden loom]

The dps looks so fucking fried due to the ring

[dawn seal]

Yeah

[balmy condor]

you guys are doing about 1mil less dps than our raid with normal gems 2 weeks ago

[dawn seal]

Yeah

[balmy condor]

it's just cause you have guys fucking dying in p1

proccing the ring

[drifting cloud]

the other log also doesnt have lust on pull

[dawn seal]

Most people die on intermission tho

[balmy condor]

yeh

this is just p1 wipe padding

[dawn seal]

Isnt it

🤔

Without lust aren't we hitting around 48%

[earnest remnant]

id recommend just playing normally, since doing the gem strat actually requires your 4 thunderlords being alive the entire for it to be worth it

[sharp viper]

🧀

[balmy condor]

like the whole strat is people die = giga proc on peoples rings

[earnest remnant]

and by the sounds of it

[balmy condor]

and you're dying in p1

[earnest remnant]

you have people dropping like flies

[balmy condor]

which is proccing the ring

[sharp viper]

I smelled some cheese and came here

[balmy condor]

so then it's like WOW POG THIRTY NINE PERCENT

[subtle tundra]

CHEESE??!?!??!?!

[balmy condor]

but half your fucking raid died

[dawn seal]

[cunning cloak]

we used the roaring cheese, we did better p1 and p2 dmg, but we started doing it the week of the last ring uupgrade and raid buff, so it is hard to tell if the ring cheese was worth it, i just did what RL told me to do

[drifting cloud]

theres some pulls without p1 deaths

and boss kinda low

[balmy condor]

their p1 dam isn't that high

[earnest remnant]

whats "kinda"

[balmy condor]

we were consistently > 25mil dps in p1

[dawn seal]

This ine

[balmy condor]

I haven't found a deathless log that's over 25 on this

[dawn seal]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/jXfzvJ8hdqcrRnp2?fight=6&phase=1&type=summary

[clever sapphire]

people are cooking all kinds of crazy strats, a buddies guild had all people swap to full healing gems on their kyveza prog and played with 3 heals

[drifting cloud]

wipe 6

[dawn seal]

P1 0 deaths

[balmy condor]

yeah okay

[earnest remnant]

tbf thats smart if dps inst a problem

[balmy condor]

wipe 6 is on par with my guild

[dawn seal]

Yeah it's cuz for example I go full st cuz I feel like we got aoe for adds and thet die fast

[subtle tundra]

ARRRGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[clever sapphire]

afaik their issue is more dps and less mechanics (but i guess healers arent that good)

[dawn seal]

My p2 and intermission dps is dog

So my overall is bad after p1

[golden loom]

Frost sounds like it should pad on platforms no?

[earnest remnant]

yeh we hit about the same

[rain coral]

yoyo, guys what is a good dps (overall) value for a assa rogue?

[subtle tundra]

over 15

[dawn seal]

I don't wanna cuz we have everyone going cleave

[balmy condor]

yeh idk looking through this pull it feels like their ring rng was just good

[golden loom]

Depends on what ur doing and ilvl and a lot of stuff @rain coral

[clever sapphire]

give more context, like key lvl, which key, what group setup so on

[dawn seal]

I feel like it's like this

[rain coral]

638

[dawn seal]

Because

[clever sapphire]

there is a lot of things that go into that

[rain coral]

+12-14

[dawn seal]

We are not super ultra good at our classes individually

[rain coral]

Siege and NW

[dawn seal]

And ring just works

Some pulls we have deaths

[balmy condor]

yeah I mean it's pretty close

[dawn seal]

But let's say we are not ring cheesing

[balmy condor]

I don't think it's as giga as you think it is

[rain coral]

is 2kk overall good in a +12 nw (no aug)

[dawn seal]

We are not lusting boss is 48

[balmy condor]

yeah

[dawn seal]

With lust do u think boss goes down to 43

[balmy condor]

lust is good

turns out

who knew

10 min raid cd

[subtle tundra]

its probably good for prog cause when you wipe at low % it might kill boss

[balmy condor]

when everyone has cds

hm

[clever sapphire]

would say so ye

[balmy condor]

strange

[cunning cloak]

lies whispyr

[dawn seal]

Yes I know whispyr but my leaders are saying

Lust is like 1 2 %

Dps

[balmy condor]

[dawn seal]

It's a lie

[rain coral]

i once had 2,43kk in nw with aug (ilvl 638 +12 nw)

[subtle tundra]

i think they are not very knowledgeable

[balmy condor]

I mean your raid hasn't impressed me intellectually

[rain coral]

its that decent?

[balmy condor]

so

checks out

[dawn seal]

Yrs

[balmy condor]

but yeah just scanning through your pulls the ring cheese seems to be exactly the same as the other 15 guilds I've checked doing the same shit

it's on par or slightly worse

[clever sapphire]

sounds like solid dps, if you feel like you are executing your rota well than its also good

[dawn seal]

Hmm

[clever sapphire]

questions about overall dps usually happen when you arent sure about your rota/gameplay

imo

[dawn seal]

I just wanna get out of p2 prison

[rain coral]

yeah sure, iam just asking 🙂 most of the time iam eh 1st dps

[dawn seal]

I am gonna lose it

[clever sapphire]

well than its perfect

[dawn seal]

My paladin dies on intermission and says

[clever sapphire]

keep it up and smash those scrubs in keys

[dawn seal]

My buble was on gcd sorry

[clever sapphire]

[dawn seal]

Happened 10 times

[golden loom]

Bubble on gcd?

Is it

[subtle tundra]

it is

[dawn seal]

Idk

[sharp viper]

it is

[rotund oak]

definitely is

[dawn seal]

Time to lock in

Question is

[subtle tundra]

yeah it can fuck you over if you havent played pala before, but if youre progging queen an excuse like that

means youre just bad

[golden loom]

Sounds janky

[dawn seal]

Should I keep focusing on mechanics

[sharp viper]

I don't think any cheese will fix people dying

[dawn seal]

And fuck dps while doing it

I am kinda doing thet to get out of p2 prison

[subtle tundra]

ideally you can do your rota

[dawn seal]

The bomb I am doing makes me wanna suicide

[subtle tundra]

i mean its just walking in a portal

idk

[dawn seal]

Oh not that one

I am a chad

[subtle tundra]

p3 bomb?

[dawn seal]

I can use my keyboard while walking in

[subtle tundra]

or what bomb

[dawn seal]

P1 bomb

[subtle tundra]

ah

[dawn seal]

https://medal.tv/games/world-of-warcraft/clips/juqk0VVaq0rM2Bi1w?invite=cr-MSxPS2osMjQ5OTEwNTE5LA

[subtle tundra]

idk im banned from doing mechanics like that

for some reason

[dawn seal]

Am I going too far

[subtle tundra]

ive never been assigned them

[dawn seal]

I want thr same treatment

[subtle tundra]

0 responsability gaming

[cunning cloak]

its nice

just dodge waves and webs

[dawn seal]

[sharp viper]

holy crap that liquefy baiting

[dawn seal]

Yeah

Did u saw me

Like a chad

[sharp viper]

man I am jealous

[clever sapphire]

mess it up often enough where your RL doesnt trust you with important mechanics

[sharp viper]

I always get the honour of doing mechanics

[subtle tundra]

i think you should try to find a pov to find a way to dps while getting out

maybe an instant blink far

[dawn seal]

I can

Ice cold

And just do dps

And eat stuff

Maybe

[subtle tundra]

no

wtf?!?

just tank it duuuh

[dawn seal]

Ye

How do u guys make so that ur healers

Heal u

[rotund oak]

ive got an inaapropriate joke about it but ill restrain myself

😂

[clever sapphire]

same, that just means we are the best players in the guild and the officers only trust us to not wipe the raid

[dawn seal]

If I am like 10% I feel like I am sitting on it for 30 secs I'd I don't pot

[earnest remnant]

instead of turning your character around and running, you can just strafe

[subtle tundra]

kick them from the guild and get better ones

[earnest remnant]

and still use abilities

[dawn seal]

😭I am scared of puddles

I ll try it today

[earnest remnant]

die, then call it out

thats how

[subtle tundra]

i wish i played ranged, seems fun!

[sharp viper]

let's go with that

[glacial stump]

Healer issue

[rotund oak]

im scared of the electricity bill brother,puddles.. where is my swimsuit ill show u how its done

[dawn seal]

I died after gating

And not getting dispelled

In 7 seconds

I am a new player should I always like use everything back to back to live

[dawn seal]

Or like

Is this healthy

Teach me

[subtle tundra]

well using defensives as often as possible is good

as long as you dont run out of defensives when you know you need one

[dawn seal]

I once died on kyveza in thr middle

To raid wide damage while stacked with group

[clever sapphire]

well thats just healer issue

[dawn seal]

I feel like sometimes people are too nice to healers

Like as a dps don't u push and give all to do more dps

And I saw sometimes people are saying don't stress healers too much etc

In some groups

It feels kinda wrong

[earnest remnant]

first few times, use your pots, then after the pull bring it up "do i really need to pot at this time"

shit like that

make em wake up

[dawn seal]

Thanks stealthi will do

[subtle tundra]

start calling for externals

make them feel worse

[dawn seal]

[subtle tundra]

YOU ARENT ENOUGH. I NEED MORE HELP

[dawn seal]

Hahaha

[rotund oak]

I'ld play my mage for some rated 2v2 with u bb,stream everythiing,seli could laugh with us while hit glad but you deny me

[dawn seal]

I am so bored of frost mage

[earnest remnant]

id rather jork it with sandpaper than touch pvp

[subtle tundra]

^

[rotund oak]

[dawn seal]

Is it troll if I change my spec to fire after 209 pulls

On queen

[subtle tundra]

yes

[earnest remnant]

if u know how to play it?

[rotund oak]

yes

[earnest remnant]

no

dmg profile doesent really change

[dawn seal]

I ll do worse

[subtle tundra]

youll probably wipe the raid a couple of times not being comfortable

[dawn seal]

It kinda does

[subtle tundra]

which is just rude and not nice

[rotund oak]

frost is the way

[dawn seal]

That's true

[rotund oak]

fire still cool though

[dawn seal]

I like p1

I fucking hate p2

And that I have to gate

I hope I kill tonite

[subtle tundra]

ILL KILL MYSELF TONITE

FORTNITE

[dawn seal]

NOOO

Before u die

U gonna see me become God of rogue lord of parse

Varas

[clever sapphire]

frost most boring mage spec, i shall stand by my point till the day i stop playing wow (i barely play mage, only 620 on it)

[earnest remnant]

they both flat as a mfer

shit doesnt change fuck all

[dawn seal]

Yes

But

That's cuz people play frost fire

[golden loom]

How about arcane

[dawn seal]

I don't

And also

[golden loom]

Or is that dead in the water

[subtle tundra]

gl buddy im your competiton

and im a wanker

[dawn seal]

I pop my cds right before p2

To have it p3

[golden loom]

Honestly I havent seen an arcane mage in forever it feels like

[clever sapphire]

i think arcane is just numerically worse than the other 2

[dawn seal]

So my p2 damage is bit low also don't have cds for intermission

[clever sapphire]

so you got no reason really to play it

[slate crown]

same

[rotund oak]

was lucky enough to win a spymasters early,ive played mage early in the season,fully geared up my rogue after i was done with my mage,as frost.Ive played arcane a bit fire was @ss before some buffs(on every patch note )

[dawn seal]

But fire has cds on all times

Is that frost fire graph

Frost damage profile differs in hero talents i beliebe

[earnest remnant]

both are frost fire

[clever sapphire]

spymasters killed my interest in mage

[dawn seal]

Yes I play spell slinger

[clever sapphire]

same as sub this season with transmitter

never getting it

[dawn seal]

Frost fire is to pad from adds

[clever sapphire]

i just hate it

[dawn seal]

And I have an ele shaman poping ascendancy and spymaster 40 on p2 shield add

[rotund oak]

did 1 heroic run,rolled 100 never raided again

[dawn seal]

Add damage is on the roof

[subtle tundra]

now thats a master padder

holy shit

[dawn seal]

People just die

[earnest remnant]

looks like the other version can do that just as well xD

[dawn seal]

Oh

I mean it's basically same u just go up on icy veins and down without on ss

[clever sapphire]

some people luck out, what can i say

[golden loom]

Bring back icelance spam frost mage and I will play it

[dawn seal]

But reason u played arcane for example it's cuz it's cds were so good at everything

[golden loom]

I just wanna press icelance 32 times in a row

[earnest remnant]

tldr: spec choice is irellevant play what you are most comfortable on

[dawn seal]

Hmm

BOYZ

BOYX

We are the only two enjoyed thet gameplay

In frost mage discord that is a blasphemy to like 11.0.2 frost msge

[earnest remnant]

they still there

[golden loom]

I enjoyed it cause casttimes are cringe

[dawn seal]

Ice lance spam was so good

Yeah

[rotund oak]

my mage had a multibiss drops/vaults orgasm while my rogue still misses skardyns.Was so lucky on my mage ive crafted my wpn early,crafted my embelishments as a tailor,had my enchants as an enchanter,it was fun and amusing to play

[earnest remnant]

arcane is the based mage spec

[subtle tundra]

y'all just wanna be beastmastery

[golden loom]

Yes please

[dawn seal]

Is there a way to play assa rogue in keys

And do good boss damage

[subtle tundra]

you should master these 🥜

[dawn seal]

And pack famage

[subtle tundra]

yes pull mobs on boss

[dawn seal]

Oo

[clever sapphire]

also tell others to not do aoe

[dawn seal]

Acshhully yes

[clever sapphire]

so you can do good dmg

[dawn seal]

On a 7 someone pulled mobs to boss the other day

It was so tood

[clever sapphire]

got skardyns a few weeks ago, now im happy on my rogue

no need to touch keys

[dawn seal]

I didn't wanna kms cuz of my energy

[rotund oak]

true and real,jentlemen's spec,ethical gaming

[golden loom]

I feel like I have a skardyns in my vault waiting for me to get home

[dawn seal]

Hear this

Next season

Frost is gonna cast blizzard on single targer

[earnest remnant]

if it aint a mythic ansurek ring in my vault then i wont take it

[dawn seal]

[clever sapphire]

imagine having a raid vault, 3 weeks of id lock on court it is

[earnest remnant]

unfort

[clever sapphire]

agree, arcane is the only way to play mage (maybe fire)

[earnest remnant]

it staying for the rest of the season

shit game

love rare

[rotund oak]

ive stopped chasing it,it can f@ck off.Im playing other games before catching up on poe 2.Retail is rapidly becoming irrelevant to play.Rogue just falls behind to other classes and we suffer bugs and sht,especially sub

[earnest remnant]

loot

[cunning cloak]

we've been extending since princess like 6 weeks ago...

[earnest remnant]

keep bringing it back blizzard

10/10

[clever sapphire]

im currently waiting in poe2 till they release rogue or new classes

not sure what the rest of the classes are gonna be

but ye

[rotund oak]

im buying it soon tbh,kinda hooked up a bit on maplestory/diablo

[dawn seal]

Oh yay no vault

Cuz I am extending since forever

[clever sapphire]

i still could get 2 sockets onto my gear from vault

[earnest remnant]

rather have no vault

[clever sapphire]

buuuut i refuse to get keys

[earnest remnant]

then 3 months of 0 ansurek ring

[dawn seal]

Is the ring any good

[earnest remnant]

like 11k dps

[dawn seal]

Ooo

Huge

[clever sapphire]

i never really played poe1, so i dont get the hate from poe1 players so for me its a lot of fun

[cunning cloak]

i got a wue queen ring tonight, it was hawt

[red schooner]

Same, court is pain.

[steel heart]

I made it!

[dawn seal]

Are u suppose to be frozen orb

[winged sun]

OMGOGMGOGMGKGO

I CANT WAIT TO PLAY ASS IN PTR

AAAAAAAAAAA

[dawn seal]

[earnest remnant]

imagine installing ptr

[clever sapphire]

and equip S1 tset because S2 not working?

dont need ptr to play ptr rogue, its the same as live

[steel heart]

I used to be

[dawn seal]

What happened

[clever sapphire]

its... boring?

[dawn seal]

Are u a crimson tempest now

[red schooner]

For some reason on Monday our raid team just kept fucking up P1 again and again so it was just endless repeats

[clever sapphire]

i have to deal with people that cant tell their left from right and their blue from red, have to wait till people finally understand it

[steel heart]

I’m trying 😭 I’m overwhelmed

[rotund oak]

its like two worlds now.gamers that dont play poe2 coz cant or wont buy it and poe2 gamers which play it.Its a free game,ppl get mad from sht like that afaik.. but whatever i dont mind,i liked poe,started on ultimatum its fun and very deep game,has alot of mechanics to explore and learn

[dawn seal]

U got this dw

[red schooner]

The amount of betrayal deaths in our last raid was way too high. Like, sir, please, we're on 120 pulls, you need to do the dance

[dawn seal]

[clever sapphire]

dont even get me started

we have 2 mages regularly kill eachother somehow

on feckin pull

1 baits the webs, other goes to pick up orb

and for some reason that not even god knows, they still fuck it up 60% of the time

after 160 pulls or so

and just snipe eachother

[subtle tundra]

very different games

[red schooner]

I had some mistakes, had a web break on me but ye, we were fucking it up

Raid before we were hitting P3, last raid we barely hit P2

[clever sapphire]

well i wouldnt know, i guess if its a different game i would get people not liking it but if it was the same game, wouldnt it just be a poe1 update and you shouldnt call it poe2?

not sure

[red schooner]

Raid leader told people to try and get some more damage and everyone went fucking parsemonkey mode

YOUR PARSE MEANS NOTHING IF WE'RE ALL DEAD YOU FUCKS

[subtle tundra]

well when it was initially announced, it was more like a poe1 update

[clever sapphire]

isnt court all about just living mechanics?

why would you tell people to do more dmg

[balmy condor]

so you can live mechanics but faster

[red schooner]

people were playing too safe on it and just doing purely mechanics so we were concerned about it not dying

[balmy condor]

no shot

[red schooner]

But ye you can't tell DPS to do more damage or their brains switch off

[clever sapphire]

thats why you are purple and im not

[balmy condor]

we had 5 dead when we hit enrage on prog

[subtle tundra]

well if you cant atleast play your spec at 90% capacity while doing mechanics, maybe dont mythic raid

its the hardest difficulty for a reason

[clever sapphire]

i mean, shouldnt people be happy about getting a "new" game? dont think i will get the hate ever since i didnt play poe1

[subtle tundra]

well its coming at the cost of poe1 so basically we get a worse game

yea yea poe1 not kill but.... 7 month league

[red schooner]

Ye but you can still do rotation correctly and also play mechanics too safe.

[balmy condor]

I feel like that means you're not doing rotation correctly

[red schooner]

Prog on princess my damage was shite but I was also playing stupidly safe on it

[balmy condor]

I mean I've done log reviews where people are legit off the boss for 20 seconds straight

[subtle tundra]

wdym mean

[balmy condor]

that's not playing properly that's not playing at all

[red schooner]

I wasn't cloaking dashes because I kept getting sniped in intermission

So I was sat there with orbs living my worst life

[subtle tundra]

you can get good log while not cloaking dashes

wat

5 sec of downtime wont kill you

[balmy condor]

most people didn't cloak dashes on prog

[clever sapphire]

aaah, aight i get the hate a bit now

[red schooner]

Ye but I full safe moded it and just sat out with orbs the entire time

Because panic was a thing.

[clever sapphire]

not getting new stuff because they are busy with something else thats not even out yet can be annoying

[red schooner]

I've mentioned before but ye, never mythic raided and I got dragged in to fill in a spot due to the old team collapsing

[subtle tundra]

well then you just played bad, its not a play safe problem

[earnest remnant]

pretty sure he just insta walked out with the orb debuff instead of going out with the dash, back to boss for a few globals then out, and step back in

[red schooner]

So I was full panic don't kill the raid mode

[subtle tundra]

dread

[clever sapphire]

my officers were malding at me when i did that

because they were scared i would not run out

[subtle tundra]

thats fine if youre inexperienced

[clever sapphire]

(i also just ran to a random spot in front of others)

[subtle tundra]

fucking short term memory test

[balmy condor]

my officers don't give a shit what I do as long as I don't wipe the raid 5x in a row cause why should they care

[subtle tundra]

where did you go with dash

[red schooner]

Takes a bit to figure out when you can and can't push damage and I erred way too far on the side of caution

[earnest remnant]

i do alot of random stuff as well

[red schooner]

So ye was a fuck up on my part but I also didn't commit terrorism on the raid team like half the other fuckers in there

[earnest remnant]

always makes for a nice surprise

[subtle tundra]

i also progged the boss when we had to minmax dps

[red schooner]

So, it's fine, I'll take it

[subtle tundra]

so i have a different experience

[clever sapphire]

sounds like your officers trust you

[red schooner]

Ye for us damage wasn't an issue, the issue was people fucking orbs up and wiping people out

JUST GO TO YOUR MARKS YOU FUCKS

[earnest remnant]

mine trust me with anything but wave mechanics

[clever sapphire]

i only have 1 guy in the officer team who knows i do random shit but i dont wipe the raid, but im new to the team so i would understand why the rest dont trust me yet

[balmy condor]

||sometimes they ask me who in the raid should get a gkick after prog ||

[clever sapphire]

whispyr the secret officer confirmed

[subtle tundra]

we had an instant gkick after we killed queen

[clever sapphire]

almost like a spy

[balmy condor]

that's so based

[subtle tundra]

its a funny clip

[earnest remnant]

dont remember how many we removed

[subtle tundra]

everyone screaming, you can hear the guild master say thank you for your time

[clever sapphire]

im pretty sure we would have around 5-6 gkicks in one night of court prog if we had enough raiders

[balmy condor]

we have some people that retired on their own

resignation

[subtle tundra]

should be me

[red schooner]

But ye idk how we took so long on princess at this stage in the season, you stand on marks at certain points and don't run around like a maniac on intermission you're fine

[subtle tundra]

but im too deep now i need to go on

[earnest remnant]

TOPPLE U BISH

[runic hinge]

[balmy condor]

topple actually quit on his own though he had a new job and no time

and then pao burned out and already quietly said he was quitting the game at the start of the tier

and then we had ultra greed dps player that "quit"

and one that's "on vacation" idk what they're doing about that one

[subtle tundra]

i need to get a gf so i can fucking quit ive been saying this since 2023

[balmy condor]

don't you mean a bf varas

I know what you are

[red schooner]

Somehow some of the old raiders got benched on that fight but I'm still on the prog team. Idk how this happened

[subtle tundra]

significant other

[red schooner]

And I'm scared

[subtle tundra]

how does one pull

man

[balmy condor]

maid costume and cat ears

[warm vortex]

Just re-read the time table

[red schooner]

"oh hey just come raid for a few weeks to help fill in", I'm fucking trapped now ain't I?

[warm vortex]

For Wednesdays

[subtle tundra]

ive tried skirt

[red schooner]

I fell for the ruse

[earnest remnant]

imagine dude, he plays for both teams but is somehow still benched

[balmy condor]

[warm vortex]

I have to be in the same room for 5 hours + assume no train delays I would barely make it home for raid time usually

[balmy condor]

me and my gf play red and blue side on court but the only balls she ever soaked are mine

no clue how I managed that one

[subtle tundra]

holy moly?

[warm vortex]

Also hope everyone is doing good this morning/evening/midday/afternoon

[earnest remnant]

damn no wishes for me

(middle of the day)

fcking rude

[subtle tundra]

average asian

nvm youre not average

youre better

[earnest remnant]

id say im below avg

im a cripple

[subtle tundra]

dont downplay cripples

[clever sapphire]

you can just say you dont wanna raid

problem solved

[red schooner]

Ye true but I have a crippling fear of letting people down

[warm vortex]

Ok I’ll change it

[clever sapphire]

they shouldnt expect someone who is there to just help out to stay

[warm vortex]

Tbh sometimes I’m unhappy I don’t do mythic raiding but then I hear about people’s guilds having drama or breaking up over it and then I think “maybe heroic and only like half mythic is good”

[red schooner]

Ye true, also it's not like we're near killing it anyhow so swapping out a Webber is fine

[red schooner]

Heroic and maybe a touch of mythic is the chill place, no prog, only vibes

Drunk heroic raids on Friday are more fun than the mythic prog

[subtle tundra]

well said

but drunk reclears hit diffy aswell

when you boost last boss

[clever sapphire]

now what about drunk prog

[subtle tundra]

you just gotta do it undercover

[runic hinge]

i was drunk as hell for like the first 3 weeks of this expack

[red schooner]

Idk it didn't go so well for my team going by how they played

[rotund oak]

from what im getting from some friends about this tier its that its completely @ss and im happy i didnt raid at all,ppl had to endure fps issues even on good systems,imagine to prog on top of that,no thx

[subtle tundra]

i have bad fps and bad system

check mate

best part of this tier for me was progging queen with 5hrs of sleep, work and uni in the same day

complete brain slop

[clever sapphire]

im doing that with court now

but without the uni part

and just workin all day

much fun, very wow

[red schooner]

Same, but at least court is so scripted that it's just muscle memory now

[subtle tundra]

i literally couldnt shadowstep the wrest grab cause my brain lagged too much

🤤

[clever sapphire]

i have a macro to shadowstep to my web buddy in case i move slow, i pressed the normal shadowstep macro

TWICE after each other

my brain def not workin

[runic hinge]

Congrats!

[red schooner]

I have a macro to shadow step to the GM on other team the second a wipe is called

[clever sapphire]

i wish the 19 other people also thought like this...

[clever sapphire]

show him the extra bit of love for getting you into the raid

[red schooner]

If I'm going down I'm taking someone with me

[clever sapphire]

if i have vanish up i try to live so i save rep costs

otherwise im stepping on the dh tank

[red schooner]

Ye nah I gotta make my own fun on this boss

And hunting down the GM for betrayal after wipes are called is the closest I get

[rotund oak]

could understand and respect working and university but u should immediately quite this game and give urself some space to breathe and actually enjoy ur studies.Its a journey u will miss in the years to come.(ive enjoyed my university years as much as i could,playing and working and with a gf and all,i still believe its better to just study and enjoy university and if u need to work u could,its still too much)

[golden loom]

Best part about uni is u can game all day and drink all night wdym

[rotund oak]

ye and what about actual studying

u boys are in for a rude awakening

[red schooner]

Nah, 3 year piss up mate

[golden loom]

Studying

[rotund oak]

entering highest grade of education to play games and get drunk

makes sense

[golden loom]

I procrastinated my masters for 9 months then finished it in a week before the deadline

[rotund oak]

big L

[subtle tundra]

yeah maybe you should ve told me that 4 years ago

[rotund oak]

ive extended it for like 2 weeks and that was because there were massive strikes and stuff,couldnt do cross settings

[subtle tundra]

im doing my masters now

[red schooner]

I did the opposite. In my last year I picked all assignment based classes/modules, then no lifed it for a month and did everything early. 8 months of doing nothing guilt free.

[warm vortex]

On palace?

So I made the good call to do 8/8 H and 4/8 M IG

[rotund oak]

yup this tier

[golden loom]

I started working full time last year and doing thesis at the same time so after work I just was just gaming so couldnt be bothered to write abything

Then 1 week of summer vacation is all it took to write it

Cause the thesis course started in september, I started working in January so my plan had been to hand it in in February

Then I started playing classic wow

And didnt write a word until april

[warm vortex]

I do that most tiers anyhow
And by most I mean like all of the ones I’ve done

Also imma study and put wow in second compared to uni X)

Ain’t gaming if I got shit to do

[rotund oak]

there are several types of masters btw,u can take start with somethign that requires just paper work and there is field work,i took the later,total pain in my ass

took me like 7 months of accumulating data,was also part of a team

[subtle tundra]

🙄

L

[golden loom]

Yeah I see that for sure, I just did mine in boring ass finance

[rotund oak]

thats how u conquer this world my man 🤘

[subtle tundra]

uni is easy when you dont work anyways

[rotund oak]

yup,work+uni is immense pressure

imagine having a yapper gf that wants to eat pasta every frieday night

[red schooner]

Ye I'm glad I'm out of uni now, fuck that noise.

[golden loom]

I started working in my 2nd year, but was a 0-25 hour per week contract so was totally chill

[red schooner]

Got my degree and ran

[subtle tundra]

i need my COOLER degree

[golden loom]

Was deffo worth casue now I have been working in the same place for 5 years

[rotund oak]

its just extra money on ur paycheck fam

im a geophysicist and i run a warehouse

lifting things

let that sink in 😉

[golden loom]

I got to max my runescape char while working from home during the pandemic

[subtle tundra]

🚪 please come in

[golden loom]

We are still on a 4 days home 1 office day schedule

Very based

[subtle tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/sink-in-kody992-gif-2038662406493630813

[warm vortex]

Let that sink in

[subtle tundra]

ok but my life literally gets twice as good once i finish uni and get a job to work from home

[golden loom]

If I had to be in the office 5 days per week, I would do unspeakable things

[warm vortex]

my life is gonna be fire if i land a job after uni

[rotund oak]

so much potential

[dawn seal]

Me rn

[warm vortex]

At least you have a job
And cookieland sounds like a profitable place anyway

[dawn seal]

They pay u in candies

[warm vortex]

Then can you sell the sweets

[dawn seal]

My irl farm is gonna pay me in 2 days

I bought the auction mount for 30 euroes

I am doing okau

[warm vortex]

Buying mounts couldn’t be me

[rain coral]

is there any infor out there about BiS gear in season 2

?

[balmy condor]

item level

just like it's been for the last 7 years

[rain coral]

so no info far

[static glacier]

AKSHUALLY

[balmy condor]

that is the info

[static glacier]

🙂

[rain coral]

oke

[balmy condor]

max ilvl

[static glacier]

how long ago was bfa

[rain coral]

y i know that

[balmy condor]

whatever trinket ends up surviving tuning

4 pieces of tier, maybe 5

[rain coral]

and any when season 2 is out

[balmy condor]

end of feb

perhaps 18th, perhaps 25th

[clever sapphire]

and then wait 2-3 more weeks for them to tune hc week trinkets

[rain coral]

oke

[balmy condor]

can't wait for them to randomly buff trinkets by 20% again

very fun

[rain coral]

i mean since 4 dungeons are old one, will there be any adjustment of the trinkets buff

?

[balmy condor]

yes?

they tuned trinkets on release and then tuned dungeon trinkets twice in season 1

[dawn seal]

Do we see different gameplay in s2

[balmy condor]

there's usually like 5-6 passes of class tuning and 2-3 item/trinket tuning passes

[dawn seal]

Or is it more or so the same

[clever sapphire]

we have exactly 0 changes afaik

[balmy condor]

would need to have a single change in order for that to happen

[dawn seal]

Oh that's cool

[clever sapphire]

tierset is as passive as it gets

[balmy condor]

I mean

[dawn seal]

I wish we get buffs

[balmy condor]

that's not true

[clever sapphire]

im not pooling for those 4 seconds

[dawn seal]

But I like the gameplay

[clever sapphire]

you cant make me

[balmy condor]

currently I can't

[dawn seal]

No please no pooling

[balmy condor]

but the 4pc is less than 1% atm

[clever sapphire]

(unless its an actualy big dps gain)

[balmy condor]

who knows what blizzard does to that thing

[dawn seal]

😭

What does 4 piece do again

[balmy condor]

gives us 4 seconds of 2 piece

[dawn seal]

Hm

Why is it related to pooling

[balmy condor]

because 4 seconds of doing more damage is good

[dawn seal]

But in what circumstance we would poll

Pool

[balmy condor]

waiting for the 4 seconds to proc

[dawn seal]

Ph

We would keep envenom up and just wait for proc

And not slam the thing

If it's a big dps gain

[clever sapphire]

ye, so just pool above x energy (what whispyr figures out), in case 4pc procs so you can quickly spam

[balmy condor]

yeh

[clever sapphire]

sounds very fun

[balmy condor]

sounds like a surefire way to make sanguine blades unplayable

[dawn seal]

We won't hit any buttons below x energy or below

Or above*

[balmy condor]

below x

[clever sapphire]

ah ye there is that, i kinda forgot

[dawn seal]

Oh oka oka

[clever sapphire]

ye bad wording from me

3rd day of almost no sleep is not doing well

[balmy condor]

not hitting buttons above x energy

[dawn seal]

Isnt it good for sanguine but then again sanguine is good for aoe

[balmy condor]

means you just sit there

max energy

not doing anything

sounds pretty bad

[clever sapphire]

sanguine takes energy above 150, meaning its kinda working against your pooling ig?

[dawn seal]

Ohh

[balmy condor]

you want to be under 150 energy for sanguine in single target

[dawn seal]

I kinda like how we play in raid

[balmy condor]

cause it's not energy efficient

[dawn seal]

I hate pooling

[clever sapphire]

i dont mind pooling if i actually see/feel a gain from it

[balmy condor]

I love pooling but blizzard for some reason can't decide what the fuck they want to do with it

they keep dipping their toe into the water

[dawn seal]

Oh wait I thought it worked on above

[golden loom]

Yes u dont want it to work

[balmy condor]

and it's like ope! oh! watch it! 1% better!

[dawn seal]

I can't do pooling

[golden loom]

In single target

[balmy condor]

and then the next patch they obliterate it

[clever sapphire]

yes it does, thats why you wanna be under it so it doesnt proc

[balmy condor]

and it's not worth

[dawn seal]

Phh

Phh

Ohhh

[balmy condor]

and then the next patch it's ope! maybe 0.5!

you wanna do it for 0.5?

look!

like fucking commit to it you cowards

you gave assa 300 energy, vicious venoms, sanguine blades

finish the job

build pooling into the spec

stop edging me

[dawn seal]

What if

[clever sapphire]

would be a nice niche, dont think that there is really any spec "pooling" right?

[dawn seal]

Feral

I think

[balmy condor]

every fucking tier I have to sit here and do like 20 hours of theorycrafting in case maybe pooling comes back and wasting my time to find like 0.3% worth of dps poooling and then deciding to not add it into the sims because the logic is inhuman and unplayable

I'm so fucking sick of it

[dawn seal]

Do we have any cool new glyphs

For assa

[royal lantern]

not a true gooner

[clever sapphire]

feral waits till 50 energy till he bites if they play one specific talent afaik

not sure which on

one

[spice surge]

Brace yourself for the 300% embellishment buffs

[balmy condor]

but blizzard seems hell bent on just walking the tight rope of energy being important or not important

god my blood pressure

[dawn seal]

Are we gonna get new crafting

[balmy condor]

it pisses me off so bad

[dawn seal]

Items

[clever sapphire]

for which visual?

poisonbomb?

[lusty kraken]

tier set still complete dogshit?

[balmy condor]

tier set has not received changes

so

[dawn seal]

Death mark

[spice surge]

Its bugged, not dogshit, but yes

[dawn seal]

Rupture

[balmy condor]

I mean it's also dogshit

[spice surge]

Or well, a bit of both i suppose

[clever sapphire]

they have visuals?

[dawn seal]

Envenom

[clever sapphire]

O.o

[balmy condor]

our tier before buffs this season was dogshit

[dawn seal]

Maybe they ll add one

[balmy condor]

and current s2 tier is worse

so

[dawn seal]

[clever sapphire]

dunno about that chief

[balmy condor]

would say very dogshit

[clever sapphire]

you forget its rouge

[dawn seal]

I wish thet added bunch if cool visual glyphs every season

[balmy condor]

also I haven't been reading but glyphs?

[dawn seal]

It's so lazy

[balmy condor]

those are still a thing?

I thought they got rid of glyphs

[clever sapphire]

ye, outlaw got some that changes pistol shot or smth like that

[dawn seal]

Outlaw fot a new one

[balmy condor]

whack

[dawn seal]

What are ur fav dagger mogs

[clever sapphire]

make poison bomb a pool of lava

[dawn seal]

Whispyr what's ur fav mog

[balmy condor]

bro idk

[clever sapphire]

i heard whispyr likes cat ears

[balmy condor]

hellfire citadel I guess

[dawn seal]

Oh

[subtle tundra]

fucking transmoggers

[dawn seal]

Varas

[subtle tundra]

☹️

[dawn seal]

What's ur fav mof