dawn heath
here you have it
#assassination
blazing pumice
twin bolt
Hey, icy veins and wowhead are showing different weapon enchants - depths vs power. What should i take? i play mainly m+
nova python
noo :((
golden loom
Hey, icy veins and wowhead are showing different weapon enchants - depths vs pow...
Think most people (atleast I did) have swapped over to double radiant power for both raid/m+
balmy condor
^
radiant snow
are we still using that macro for tea with the new talent and all or ?
prisma monolithBOT
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
bright tartan
New talent improved shadowheart
feral quiver
any thoughts on best times for cloak during M Silk Court? I.E During Int 1 Rotation 1 or 2. Or any techs I'm unaware of
balmy condor
there's no real set place to cloak
you can cloak the purple run out circle in p2
from the caster
but like that's just uptime I guess idk
feral quiver
Should mention I am part of the melee web side for anub, To give you an idea where I am in rotation
balmy condor
shouldn't really change much
feral quiver
you can cloak the purple run out circle in p2
Still working our way to consistent P2 (Just started hitting very consistent intermissions after holiday break etc)
Appreciate the bit of extra info though, Any little bit to eek out a bit more uptime is huge
royal lantern
Still working our way to consistent P2 (Just started hitting very consistent int...
be happy, cus if you start to nail p2, you are 95% on a kill allready
feral quiver
Yeah, I've heard that hitting P2 consistently is the majority of the fight
balmy condor
Appreciate the bit of extra info though, Any little bit to eek out a bit more up...
idk if I'd call it huge, the fight even pre-nerf was an irrelevant dps check
feral quiver
once you have consistency you're just trying to eek out that good pull from everyone digging deep
balmy condor
you can legit kill it with 6-7 dps dead at this point in the patch
oak eagle
yeah i was gonna say that my guild killed it with like 5 dead tonight
balmy condor
one of the lowest dps requirements we've seen in at least 6 years
oak eagle
but we didnt
we didnt have anyone die
which is really surprising
we also had some dc problems today which was unfun
but i think everyone was
oak eagle
lovely
feral quiver
you can legit kill it with 6-7 dps dead at this point in the patch
Honestly I feel like My DPS is falling short on my own part. I've been an outlaw main who swapped for Brood/kyvez and now silken to sin given it's state is less RNG and I can pull 1.5-1.8 consistently on the fight. Atm been dropping DM/Shiv/KB on pull (after basic, Garrote/Rupt/Envem build to max output) and going through my rotation and tabbing to spider bish for adds and caustic. But I've fallen behind a bit and only sitting at 634 and still running outlaw trinkets of reapers cont / aresenal given I have nothing better
I still push to 1.5-2m mark depending on crit. I dont have my Skardyn's peak
bad bad rng there D:
cinder steppe
Are you red or blue team?
cinder steppe
Im red also and i use cds on the stun, dont know if its better but im getting better damage that way
feral quiver
so I am limited by add pos during charge
I found popping on pull does me better aslong as I don't mind losing 1-3 seconds of KB stacking when I tab to set up for caustic on spider bish
cinder steppe
before charge i just keep mark on fat one and try to mantain both dots on bosses
balmy condor
you cd on pull if you aren't holding shield in i1
feral quiver
I say on pull, But again, after stacking bleeds/envm befoer going into burst combo
potent lintel
For life of me I cannot get causatic splatter on my top dps. I feel like its activated on every mob group in the dungeon. I dont know what Im doing wrong
balmy condor
if you hold dps on shield you hold on pull for the charge
cinder steppe
But we are only getting to p2 half of the tries so we are not really a good example hahaha
feral quiver
I just feel like I lose too much of the uptime during damage amp
Likely a personal issue. I spend my first week just focusing on movement over dps
so likely built a habit
spent*
cinder steppe
you cd on pull if you aren't holding shield in i1
We dont hold dps and sometimes only two phases of orbs and cds come back for the dispell, is that right?
balmy condor
yeh
feral quiver
Okay perfect, This is lining up with my log reviews. I tend to not look at the top 20. I like to watch a bit further back in the line and try to match it to my expected TTK
cinder steppe
Nice!
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/knpLm1Jhv3KRyFzr?fight=39&type=damage-done this is our best try so far of the progress, we have been stuck a couple of days due to changes on the roster and our biggest enemy now is the second pull after the dispel since some players dont know what is right and what is left apparently kekw
balmy condor
Court is a fight I wish my guilds dps would stop thinking about their dps
feral quiver
I'm far from a GCD perfect player and I do tend to be a mechanic bitch because I'm reliable at hitting them.
balmy condor
But they didn’t and it cost us an extra 125 pulls that we didn’t need to do
Guess that’s life
feral quiver
But I like to be told what I'm doing wrong and where I can improve. Ego means shit to me if we can get my CE
balmy condor
oak eagle
ill check how many we had
feral quiver
I'll check logs now to tell you where we are at
royal lantern
Court is a fight I wish my guilds dps would stop thinking about their dps
*every fight is a fight where i wish my guilds dps would stop thinking about their dps
cinder steppe
We are on pace for 300+ pulls for a kill so not looking good hahaha
oak eagle
took us alot fewer pulls on Court than I thought
balmy condor
*every fight is a fight where i wish my guilds dps would stop thinking about the...
Kinda true yeah
oak eagle
we had a .1% our last raid night before the nerf went in that tuesday
balmy condor
We are on pace for 300+ pulls for a kill so not looking good hahaha
Welcome to the club
royal lantern
feral quiver
As far as our calls have been is - "As long as adds are dead before the charge hits, you're setting the right interim pace"
cinder steppe
Some people say queen is easier to progress but i dont know
balmy condor
It is
cinder steppe
I just hope we can get CE before next patch and get it over with
balmy condor
But that’s mostly cause Queen doesn’t have a p3
feral quiver
This is our 3rd week of Court prog ofc
cinder steppe
But that’s mostly cause Queen doesn’t have a p3
Because of damage right?
balmy condor
Yah
cinder steppe
Like the damage we have with buff and ring and all is crazy
balmy condor
You skip like 2:30 minutes worth of prog because of how much damage people have these days
We had one decent p3 pull with like 15 people alive, got a 20% pull, came back to it the next day and it died in 4 pulls
royal lantern
you kill queen either before or shortly after the 2nd ring
cinder steppe
Thats my silver lining, that we have way to much damage and every boss is like a brick wall you just have to throw yourself until you get some good tries xD
balmy condor
If you see p3 you legitimately kill the boss next day
tall jay
I’m looking forward to the possibly of princess prog?
balmy condor
Kyveza very fun
feral quiver
Would be happy to share a log link for anyone who is happy review in their own time. Just don't want anyone feeling like they need to rush it.
cinder steppe
Kyveza has been my favorite yeah
feral quiver
Literally the only rogue in the group so you know who to be critical of
royal lantern
I’m looking forward to the possibly of princess prog?
best fight this tier
cinder steppe
Fast tries, even if you mess something its easy to identify the error and get it corrected
feral quiver
I actually loved that fight. Very Methodic
royal lantern
short, not overly complicated, punishing on mistakes
cinder steppe
Much better than ovinax, i hate that fatty
past marten
isnt there some kind of a log command?
balmy condor
No
past marten
opens a new thread
feral quiver
I've always been a "I will pull a grey parse to get a kill"
royal lantern
Much better than ovinax, i hate that fatty
mfs say they like thicc girls, and when we get a real thicc girl you hate them
smh my head
balmy condor
We disabled that command here
feral quiver
I know on random atempts I can hit purple
balmy condor
Yes
past marten
Okay, because I saw that recently. Must have been sub then
cinder steppe
mfs say they like thicc girls, and when we get a real thicc girl you hate them
Hahaha true that
feral quiver
Appreciate everyones time and sorry to steal the convo! I'm sure there are more questions than mine
normal mist
balmy condor
Okay, because I saw that recently. Must have been sub then
Problem here is that there are two people that actually go and review the log, and we simply can’t keep up if we let the command stay in here
Quake and myself during Dragonflight s3 were doing a combined 150 log reviews a month
For literal charity work
Unsustainable
golden loom
Just rawdog sending a log here and letting the people yap goes hard tho
balmy condor
Yeh or you get people like lightz showing up saying the most nonsense shit you’ve ever read
It’s a lovely time
past marten
Haha, I saw that "conversation" yesterday
feral quiver
Yeah I don't want to put that on anyone. fuck that. If someone wants to dive deep they can. I also know the problem of borderline not being able to help yourself if you see a cry for help :L
past marten
peak comedy
feral quiver
But I'll let them reach out
I'll ask what I think fits here
without making anyone feel strongarmed for showing an interest
balmy condor
Just ping quake 
His happiness when people ping him for logs and it’s a raid log
And not an m+ log
Holy
feral quiver
hahahaha!
balmy condor
Sometimes you get people that are like oh can you log review and you go yeah okay I got like 10 min lemme speedrun
feral quiver
Which quake if you don't mind me asking? Have been an outlaw player until about 2 months ago. (ADHD BRAIN GOES BRRR)
feral quiver
Ofc, Always in minecraft
oak eagle
If you see p3 you legitimately kill the boss next day
thats how it was for us almost
balmy condor
@spice spire log review this bucko when you wake up
oak eagle
we saw deep into p3 for the first times on the 14th, and then killed on the 16th an hour into raid
feral quiver
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LmtfKgza6CJXqk9D @spice spire DM if you'd like a few extra's
Huge littlecap
oak eagle
and i took the tips whisp gave me the day before and did alot better i feel like
tall jay
Yeh or you get people like lightz showing up saying the most nonsense shit you’v...
Bless his little heart
balmy condor
and i took the tips whisp gave me the day before and did alot better i feel like
Glad to hear it
feral quiver
and i took the tips whisp gave me the day before and did alot better i feel like
That's huge my dude. Glad it got you over the line
oak eagle
That's huge my dude. Glad it got you over the line
i wouldnt say its what got us over the line persay, i would say it was people opening their eyes and using their brains that got us the kill aka doing mechs properly
subtle tundra
And you want to kill your self
ive helped with logs ocasionally
i just cant read them properly
peak lake
Heya, is this possible to track the stacks of ovinax trinket on a fight ?
(on warcraft log)
peak lake
😄 i saw ur answer comin
i've found the suspended buff on logs
looking for stacks rn
i'm afraid it's not a buff but a stat modifier on the logs so we can't track it
cyan crater
Hey guys, thanks for accepting me in the group
jade abyss
One from us
royal lantern
Is p2 a wall
getting a clean p2 is the longest part of prog
dawn seal
spice spire
I am woke
golden loom
lets goooo +437dps upgrade from vault 
spice spire
royal lantern
lets goooo +437dps upgrade from vault <:Pog:915989666656841728>
number bigger = brain sends out happy chemicals
golden loom
also new ring upgrade made number go to 639
nova aspen
lets goooo +437dps upgrade from vault <:Pog:915989666656841728>
11% 
royal lantern
lets goooo +437dps upgrade from vault <:Pog:915989666656841728>
Uwuwarr
golden loom
pawn says some crazy stuff
nova aspen
because its bad
golden loom
because its bad
ye I just have it for leveling alts and seeing an item be +250 ilvls is dopamine
tropic jewel
Rogue still Not Getting and love in 11.1 is really frustrating
dapper cradle
Huge notes inc this week trust
tropic jewel
I think it will be 2nd myth. Week id we Are lucky
royal lantern
Rogue still Not Getting and love in 11.1 is really frustrating
you are getting used to it
somewhat
fallow canopy
at this point I just hope that the stealth movement bug in ptr does not make it to live when it launches
royal lantern
at this point I just hope that the stealth movement bug in ptr does not make it ...
oh they will surely fix it
fallow canopy
tropic jewel
I mean when I Look at Shaman they Are getting Buffed to S Tier again
fallow canopy
comparison is the thief of joy or w/e
royal lantern
I mean when I Look at Shaman they Are getting Buffed to S Tier again
just do what all the shamans in the forum/reddit do: say that Shaman is NEVER allowed to be good and they should be good for once (enh shaman is 1 of the best DPS since SL every single patch)
past marten
Gaslighting should become a talent on Enhance, I guess 😄
jade abyss
Pogname
somber sparrow
Rogue still Not Getting and love in 11.1 is really frustrating
it's fine, our tier sets are AMAZING next raid trust me
thorny kraken
i thought the set was borked for assassination?
jade abyss
Lets go gamble !
coral ibex
I mean when I Look at Shaman they Are getting Buffed to S Tier again
Man Who FUckin Cares About Shaman
spice spire
I care
coral ibex
your heart is too big quake
spice spire
Yeah I got something else that’s too big too
coral ibex
i think its just the right size
royal lantern
Yeah I got something else that’s too big too
All the love you give
coral ibex
royal lantern
spice spire
My feet 
coral ibex
keep it in your pocket for a rainy day
spice spire
Idk how to even give a lady a footie bud I’m gonna keep it real
Rub it with my toes or do I jam one in there
Like what are we doing here
spice surge
coral ibex
imagine "i got your nose" but your foot + her clit
spice spire
I am very not a feet connoisseur
spice spire
imagine "i got your nose" but your foot + her clit
coral ibex
happy to enlighten
hearty reef
spice spire
What I’m saying
torn dome
anyone got a WA to track how many ruptures are up at any time?
slate crown
%matchCount in display
OR
Just do scent stacks
you don't need to trakc how many are out
You have a buff on your character for scent stacks, that's all you need to look at
torn dome
ya fine
slate crown
which is a very simple WA
torn dome
i'm a total noob wit haddons bro
slate crown
!wa
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
slate crown
i'm a total noob wit haddons bro
Give it a shot I knwo you can do it 🙂 let us know if you have questions
spice spire
slate crown
but also, thosepacks above linked all have a tracking for it
in the rupture icon
Mine does, whispyr's does
torn dome
tyty
jade abyss
[LE] stands for legend?
spice spire
gusty mirage
[LE] stands for legend?
yea cause Lisonna is a LEGEND
winged sun
jade abyss
Im sherlock puma
astral girder
hey i got a question 🙂 i want to reroll to rogue from warlock for season 2 🙂 would you recommend it ? and if yes what spec would be best to begin with as a rogue ? 🙂
golden loom
m+ enjoyer vs raid enjoyer
gilded oasis
<a:catyes:857619951577858078>
Hope you have a nice Wednesday
spice spire
Hope you have a nice Wednesday
gilded oasis
I made a new WA featuring you, that should make you smile right. Surely
spice spire
I made a new WA featuring you, that should make you smile right. Surely
No that actually horrifies me
Wdym featuring me 
gilded oasis
Wdym featuring me <:hm:1228583333718524008>
😇 who knows!
gusty mirage
Wdym featuring me <:hm:1228583333718524008>
it's a picture of your bhole
gilded oasis
it's a picture of your bhole
Ruined the surprise WTF
spice spire
Dog is it one of the sound clips
slate crown
All I'll say is it works and is glorious
gilded oasis
spice spire
Sec
Not on here
I’m actually mortified of this weak aura now
Because I know LE has access to exactly two clips and both are uh. Interesting
gusty mirage
Someone get me an Oxi clip
gilded oasis
I didn't even get it from her so ha
spice spire
Wait
gilded oasis
But it probably ultimately was
gilded oasis
I'm not telling that's rude!
spice spire
I’m trying to think of people in that specific server
spice spire
Ed, whispyr, Tony. Would be my other guesses
gilded oasis
Looks like it
spice spire
gilded oasis
Painsmith was so fun
charred wraith
I have 2 stupid questions , is there any point in trying to get darkest night off adds which die in like 5-10 seconds from pull? Also what is more prio, envenom buff uptime or deathmark cycling (regarding the point where envenom buff would fall off if one goes for max cp for darkest night)
spice spire
Dsm cycling is more important
And yeah because darkest night resets so you’re just getting free energy resets + big dam envenoms
spice spire
Yeah oxi handsome as fuck
ember mural
I made a new WA featuring you, that should make you smile right. Surely
Need it
fallow canopy
Yeah oxi handsome as fuck
and an Arsenal fan
ember mural
gilded oasis
hows it look
gusty mirage
lmao
humble ginkgo
spice spire
House of cards seemed better than lens. Ngl
marble hemlock
House of cards seemed better than lens. Ngl
first 2 seasons were really good imo, ye
spice spire
first 2 seasons were really good imo, ye
Hey seli.
I’m going to kiss you on the lips.
mild wyvern
tips on single target in M+ with lethal/sub, master ass build? is number 1 prior to keep envenom buff up, to pool energy aswell
balmy condor
Maintain bleeds, keep envenom buff up, wait for cooldowns
mild wyvern
alright, is there a optimal way to use the extra crit out of stealth from master assassin?
mild wyvern
fair enough i just usally get like 1mil on single target on m+ not sure if thats pretty low for 637
royal lantern
assa boss dmg in m+ is bad
you do decent dmg with cds, and then fight against the tank for 2min
just how it is
mild wyvern
for real, ok glad it isnt just me then lol
strange tundra
At which dungeons and what key and up should I play Iron Wire, also I guess it depends on the comp? Like if the rest have a lot of kicks etc, I don't bother Iron Wire?
royal lantern
are you playing in a very coordinated group with a prot paladin
if yes, you can drop it i gues
if no, you always take it and should never consider otherwhise
royal lantern
hi a hater
fallow canopy
counterpoint stop hating start loving
strange tundra
I don't really care that much about kicks never had issues atm, but then again haven't done higher than 12 keys
royal lantern
when was the last time dmg was the problem in m+
and not people missing interupts/failing mechanics
strange tundra
Yeah u are right
I started this season late and haven't played since legion
So I'm still re-learning stuff
royal lantern
yeha, its just
99% of wipes/failed keys are not because of dmg
and we talk about very minor dmg increases/decreases btw
strange tundra
Is it okay to drop Lethality for another vanish?
royal lantern
isnt that the standart wowhead build
royal lantern
taking subterfuge and then not without a trace is a BIT weird, ngl
and taking sanguine blades but no sudden demise
spice spire
Oh god sb over sd
royal lantern
when sanguine blades is a questionable talent at best
and Suden demise is just always good
strange tundra
is sudden demise good on high hp packs?
golden loom
the execute is a cute lil bonus
royal lantern
^
helpfull in lower content where stuff dies fast
but the "real" meat of the talent is the 10% bleed dmg that is just always giving you, well, 10% more bleed dmg everywhere
royal lantern
yea but im trying to run high keys
then sanguine blades is even more troll cus sanguine blades is actually harmfull for boss dmg and boss dmg matters way more in high keys
😄
strange tundra
so 10% damage is better than 30% damage on every pack, since u are always max energy on packs?
golden loom
well its 10% bleed damage on bosses while sanguine is 0%
royal lantern
its not 30% dmg on packs
cus most of your dmg in aoe is spatter
it boosts CT aswell yeha
but garrote/rupture do fuck all dmg
and at the same time its kinda bad on bosses cus you allready struggle with energy on bosses and Sanguine sometimes takes energy away
strange tundra
most time spent on dungeon is on packs no?
royal lantern
meanwhile sudden demise is literally just 10% more dmg with all bleeds all the time with no drawback
balmy condor
Sanguine is more aoe, sudden demise is more well rounded
golden loom
if ur spending most of the time on packs wouldnt that logic make you take both sanguine and SD and drop TTK
balmy condor
If the logic is more aoe you would probably drop dtb and poison bomb entirely and just put points into zold
balmy condor
Yah I mean dropping Kingsbane for aoe is technically an option
spice spire
True and real
strange tundra
if ur spending most of the time on packs wouldnt that logic make you take both s...
i dont really understand what TTK does
balmy condor
Envenom but twice
spice spire
Banger
royal lantern
i dont really understand what TTK does
did you ever play guardian druid?
strange tundra
did you ever play guardian druid?
yea bkac in legion
strange tundra
Envenom but twice
then why drop it for SD
royal lantern
well, ttk turns envenom basically into ironfur
aka 2 individual stacks with their own timer
mild wyvern
doesnt give u double that damage on the next envenom right?
just longr duration ro reset?
royal lantern
no, it lets you stack envenom 2x
which means 2x the poison application increase
and all talents that work with envenom 2x aswell
mild wyvern
oh wow didnt know that
royal lantern
like rapid injection, which is 10% more envenom dmg when cvasted during envenom
so its 20% more dmg when you cast envenom during 2 stacks of envenom as an example
sounds complicated, but isnt really in reality, cus you just slam envenom anyway
balmy condor
then why drop it for SD
They take it for more single target
royal lantern
in raids you just slam ye
no thinking
just mut mut envenom
blizz removed thinking from the game in class gameplay
strange tundra
They take it for more single target
Whats more aoe,, ttk over sd right? since more spatter
mild wyvern
lmao true
balmy condor
More aoe would be dropping ttk for literally anything else
subtle tundra
More aoe would be dropping ttk for literally anything else
FOR THIS?
strange tundra
so this a good build?
subtle tundra
guys is this build good?(literally, the build)
strange tundra
aight good
subtle tundra
jk
past marten
It has sb, so it's obviously god tier
spice spire
subtle tundra
Whats rs
royal lantern
what am i gonna do on pure ST
well
sub rupture actually does more dmg then assa rupture
fallow canopy
well one is the dot class and one is the.. wait a min
spice spire
Waiting
fallow canopy
well I wasn't expecting this
spice spire
Damn
jade abyss
guys is this build good?(literally, the build)
Best build for sin
past marten
RS also buffs rupture damage per se, so it's a st dmg increase
royal lantern
blame the guide writer
the masculine urge to ping fuu
subtle tundra
idk i remember someone saying RS was better than WM
what do does mean
jade abyss
How is sub atm in m+?
subtle tundra
they dont compete though?!?
past marten
Worse than sin tho in the higher keys
subtle tundra
wm is gateway
proven jasper
Nvm im stupid u drop wm for TFD but
I swear you play rs even in st
Its nbd tho
Like 1% if that
proven jasper
sub has alot of poopy talents
past marten
Aye
stable oracle
Does anyone have an accurate updated version of this kingsbane tracker or one similar to it?
Just wanting to fine tune the adjustments based on how Master Assassin works longer if you have both subterfuge and indiscriminate carnage talented.
Thanks
balmy condor
I don't think there's like a well known one, maybe someone fixed it for themselves personally
but it doesn't actually provide any information you can make use of
so people just kinda left it to rot
vast loom
its fun to look at but thats about it
stable oracle
Kinda nice to see the total damage gotten and the percentages if they drop between GCDs
Would be awesome to be able to just transfer the colour glows with the timings into my regular WA pack that'd be bis.
violet berry
I noticed my kingsbane seems to buff up a lot quicker when I have a lot of bleeds out. Is that a thing
Obviously I’m getting more incoming energy but it seems to amplify how quickly my kingsbane buffs up
violet berry
Not the target itself
stable oracle
Not the target itself
yes, so if you are cleaving while it's active, and have caustic spatter up. you are skyrocketing the percentage.
violet berry
Hm I’m not understanding but I believe you
How would caustic spatter effect the prio receiving poison applications
From other mobs
stable oracle
Sorry, my mistake.
it's only targets affected by kingsbane.
But yeah when you have more energy coming in, you're spamming mutilate more, therefore applying more poisons faster.
violet berry
Hm ya it feels like there’s more going on but I could be wrong.
balmy condor
there used to a be a bug where any poisons on any targets scaled kingsbane
that got fixed during war within beta
hit a kingsbane on dummy A and auto dummy B
violet berry
Ok then maybe it is just the amount of energy coming up effecting my applications
balmy condor
see if it ramps
violet berry
Ok
stable oracle
Ok then maybe it is just the amount of energy coming up effecting my application...
your 4 set is also increasing that damage if its at 10 stacks, which is also increasing your flat KB damage as well.
stable oracle
I don't think there's like a well known one, maybe someone fixed it for themselv...
If I can figure out a way to get it updated I can post it online.
violet berry
Well not the damage specifically but going by that kingsbane weak aura, my kb seems to hit 100% less than half way through the cycle if I have a lot of bleeds out
proven jasper
Kb gets capped super fast this current tier either way
stable oracle
Well not the damage specifically but going by that kingsbane weak aura, my kb se...
This weak aura was built for DF, this is why I am asking if anyone has any KB trackers for 11.0.12
violet berry
This weak aura was built for DF, this is why I am asking if anyone has any KB tr...
Ahh gotcha so that things not even accurate?
stable oracle
https://wago.io/OtohaQlq-
I appreciate it!
proven jasper
I've never seen the hype in having a wa tell you info you don't use
Big number on screen = neurons activate
stable oracle
I've never seen the hype in having a wa tell you info you don't use
During boss fights, it's nice to scan over and just check to see if you got a nice KB window with big dam or not.
It's really nothing more than that.
uneven plume
Only thing I use it for is when to shivs. But that’s muscle memory at this point
Cause there’s a countdown on KB
stable oracle
Only thing I use it for is when to shivs. But that’s muscle memory at this point
Yeah I used it months ago for that, now it's muscle memory
uneven plume
Other than that, it’s pretty useless
iron carbon
!tea
prisma monolithBOT
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Bless your soul.
balmy condor
During boss fights, it's nice to scan over and just check to see if you got a ni...
yeh dopamine is good
violet berry
Same reason we use damage meters
golden loom
I look more at my details than any weakaura tracking stuff
stable oracle
I look more at my details than any weakaura tracking stuff
like I said, it's a quick glance over, that's it. It's me being finicky, I get it, it's not everyone's cup of tea.
fallow canopy
nah you shall perish for your transgressions
stable oracle
I am also being serious <:kekw:1217165081251414168>
Me too, I am more than capable at going through logs and details. It's like a nice little ooh, that was a good window. Continue pew pew.
woven shore
My guild got queen down to 9% Yesterday and im not raiding this raid because i cant participate ☠️
Bye bye my first CE on thursday
Im like i hope they kill it but also in my head im like i hope they dont kill it 😂😂😂😂😂
humble verge
rude 
past basin
hey guys is there anywhere i can post logs so ppl that know a lot can help me improve
or can i just throw it here
spice spire
Can just throw here
balmy condor
the more fun one
proven jasper
Why not both
whole snow
is there any chance of fatebound ass being good
proven jasper
Good thing you can play trickster if you play sub 
whole snow
can u actually tho
proven jasper
Yes?
spice spire
Good thing you can play trickster if you play sub <a:foxdding:122077181700696077...
Bottom behavior
golden loom
trickster sub is good ye
spice spire
And yeah trickster is good
whole snow
hmm
proven jasper
Bottom behavior
Go off king i know you like to be my top
proven jasper
spice spire
i have a sin fix for u
Fix this, fix that, how about you fix yourself up with some bitches
(Sure)
bronze pike
Fix this, fix that, how about you fix yourself up with some bitches
i dont want to tell you anymore
whole snow
i main dk but got told i might have to play rogue on prog
kinda torn on what spec to learn
idk if i can learn both by the timethe raid launches
spice spire
You can
proven jasper
You got plenty of time
mint spoke
Atleast Deathstalker is more fun then Shadopan monk, i just recently swapped and rogue has been a lot more fun lol
whole snow
i was highkey having a ton of fun playing outlaw
which is the reason i picked up rogue
but
its never good on prog
mint spoke
I like monk
WW is such a snooze fest
subtle tundra
?!?
proven jasper
Mm hunter time 
mint spoke
show balls on stream king
ayo?
mint spoke
Mm hunter time <:sus:1233419406558892124>
Pew pew, I would try it but not a fan of ranged dps
bronze pike
I’m sorry remby you didn’t deserve that
its to late
for ive forgot what i was gonna say
mint spoke
its to late
man thats TOXIC
runic hinge
for ive forgot what i was gonna say
You have plenty of ideas. Please give us another
ancient rain
is there a difference between the spec i should play on queen prog and the spec they use for rank 1 logs?
bronze pike
You have plenty of ideas. Please give us another
ill give another @spice spire
toxic adrenaline: every combopoint spent grants .2 seconds cdr on kingsbane,deathmark, vanish, and tea.
simple and elegent
give sin the burst class more access to its strong burst buttons
winged sun
bronze pike
while keeping it balance by not effecting defensives
so theyre not TOO op
so it works out
runic hinge
Oh my b
bronze pike
sub is for lame people
runic hinge
Make sense why I’ve been playing it
bronze pike
bronze pike
toxic adrenaline: every combopoint spent grants .2 seconds cdr on kingsbane,deat...
ill add on to it
its not the capstone
gusty mirage
why are you like this
bronze pike
its second to last, the capstone being a new burst talent called
preperation: 5 min cd reduced by energy spent. 10 energy =1second cdr. it makes reduces the cd of your deathmark and only deathmark by 50% when pressed.
proven jasper
bronze pike
not on base cd tho
on current cd
so say you have 40 seconds left to go, you press it and now its 20 seconds, cant make it to strong now
muted ridge
is there any command which explains how to properly use Ovinax's Mercu Egg?
balmy condor
hover around 20 of agi
muted ridge
so dont move if possible, got it
balmy condor
well it goes to 30
you don't wanna be above 20 either
cause the stacks past 20 giga suck
so you do have to move
it's a balance
balmy condor
general rule is if you're bad at managing it's around -1%
muted ridge
literally one WA to take care of it
but ye I see
is the same management also in M+? also 20 agi hover? or more into mastery?
royal lantern
general rule is if you're bad at managing it's around -1%
does bad managing mean "you dont always look at it" or "you spam ADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADAD like the melee dps you are"
balmy condor
is the same management also in M+? also 20 agi hover? or more into mastery?
yeh the agi is always better
but you can be like 15-15
or 20-10
or whatever
like it doesn't have to be EXACTLY 20 agi
balmy condor
does bad managing mean "you dont always look at it" or "you spam ADADADADADADADA...
the first
if you're perma 30 stack move it's like -2.5
muted ridge
like it doesn't have to be EXACTLY 20 agi
ye simply dont go 25+ to 30 cuz DR is just killing it
noticed
balmy condor
ye
muted ridge
thanks g
bronze plover
!wa
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
dapper cradle
yah just pad
what are some of the standout casters you're noticing for s2 atm?
balmy condor
no clue
bronze pike
I thought turning sin to worse outlaw would be the final nail
ancient rain
Is there a reason so many rogues use windsinger on queen? or do they just sim higher with it
ancient rain
the one that gives highest secondary stat
balmy condor
Is there a reason so many rogues use windsinger on queen? or do they just sim hi...
for fun idk
storm hedge
Is there any optimization for fb? never touched fatebound but cant deal with deathstalker mark on court
I kinda remember something about vanishing to get the capstone but not sure when
balmy condor
but I can't say I could recommend fatebound on court
you're losing an insane amount of dps
storm hedge
Well dps doesn't matter here. I'll try it for a few pulls
balmy condor
hello do you move or not with ovinax trinket
just had a convo about it scroll up a bit
fallow canopy
I kinda remember something about vanishing to get the capstone but not sure when
Which part of the fight you are struggling most with mark?
balmy condor
just gotta hold
manic matrix
just had a convo about it scroll up a bit
ty 
storm hedge
yea sometimes i just fck up the vuln phase
fallow canopy
Keep in mind second intermission is right after the 2nd dispel in p2
Not optimal but if amp is over, just rush to get DN up or if up just hold
Just gotta plan ahead a little bit and with practice it will happen naturally
storm hedge
Yea that's the thing sometimes I'm not fast enough
sometimes i hold for 4 finishers
both scenarios suck
Ok I'm not playing fatebound
spice spire
novel star
storm hedge
I mean I don't enjoy the constant coin dings
But I hate the fact I got to 7 in a row 0 times in 3 pulls
Gave it a shot and the coins chose their fate
past roost
Heyo what is average dps I need to have as 629 on raid bosses
I think I am doing bad on single target
balmy condor
are you grey parsing
past roost
Sometimes grey and sometimes green
balmy condor
prob not ideal then
past roost
I did blue 55 on silken
balmy condor
that's pretty good
past roost
I did change my talents to raid ones
whole snow
does improved garrote snapshot
balmy condor
oh I see
whole snow
follow-up question, does master assassin still snapshot
balmy condor
does improved garrote snapshot
how are you defining snapshot in this case
balmy condor
follow-up question, does master assassin still snapshot
never has
sharp viper
I'm salty, we killed court but I got killed by a triple stacked orb in p3 :/
whole snow
if i refresh a garrote applied with improved, does it continue to do 50% more damage
balmy condor
no
past roost
@balmy condor do you have any guide on single target raid dpsing
balmy condor
are u fr
yeah idk, master assassin snapshotting has never been a thing on assa
improved garrote the 50% is only for that gar though
whole snow
is there any snapshotting for assa?
balmy condor
the extra target count bonus on crimson tempest I guess
it's like a weird half-snapshotting thing, that and imp gar
but stat snapshots are not a thing, no
sharp viper
<@167090536602140682> do you have any guide on single target raid dpsing
!guide
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
little ivy
does numbing poison effect raid bosses?
little ivy
ty
balmy condor
it's functionally identical to curse of weakness
manic matrix
@balmy condorwhat do you think if I play the zap gem on my ring with my raid fully boosting me should I fully move to stack mastery?
with the trinket from ovinax
golden loom
What in the parse are you cooking
balmy condor
bro idk probably more crit and vers
manic matrix
I've been told it scales with mastery
manic matrix
balmy condor
fathomdwellers technically adds mastery scaling
but that's like
not relevant
would also be an insanely strange way to word that lmao
manic matrix
oke ty 
runic hinge
I get triggered when someone dies to a skill issue too
balmy condor
yah I mean it's funny
but it's not actually more dps
it's just funny meme to see all the gem damage funneled into one person
feral gate
how much % haste should i be at?
fallow canopy
!stats
prisma monolithBOT
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
brave comet
my guild asked me if i was gonna play Assassination in s2 since everything is going to hell and we basically dont have a tierset since its bugged, and even if it worked its terrible
so should i actually make plans to swap
simple imp
Well always Good to learn the other speccs i would say
pliant remnant
For sure swap off Assa 'cause of tier set
Everybody knows Assa has lived and died off of its amazingly strong tier sets
storm hedge
Assa is fun in keys atm no matter the tier set. Tbh I half forgot what current tierset even is
brave comet
Everybody knows Assa has lived and died off of its amazingly strong tier sets
i'll be sure to pull info on this from my 15 years of non-experience with the spec
runic hinge
Tier rn is like 4% total? I mean if they tune it to be that we realistically can do the same dps
brave comet
4% is huge
pliant remnant
i'll be sure to pull info on this from my 15 years of non-experience with the sp...
I know, that's why I pulled from my 1 and a half years of experience and told you to for sure swap off of it
brave comet
next season thatsa 4% less cause the tier bonus simply get wiped faster than they can be applied
storm hedge
It was literally the weakest tier set at one point.
brave comet
this one?
storm hedge
Ye
At the start of the season healers were getting prio over assa tier set
Then slight buff
Still not that strong tbh
brave comet
well the worrying thing is that rogue is barely getting any changes next season
that means theyre not even looking at rogue
balmy condor
next tier is garbage but it'll probably get fixed and then tuned
spec is in a good spot
shouldn't really matter
storm hedge
We won't top dps but we'll do well enough in raid. And I think we'll still slap in m+
brave comet
okay, so the tier garbage isnt a reason to like switch to outlaw
balmy condor
oh heavens no
storm hedge
It always depends on tuning. And/or what you enjoy
Imo it's too soon to ask a week before the patch comes out so asking now is pointless
pliant remnant
Look into thine crystal balls and tell me what to reroll to
balmy condor
always mage
pliant remnant
Hey, I just geared my mage the last two weeks or so
It's already at a big, juicy 631
storm hedge
I got my monk ready just in case
dapper cradle
i gotta gear my mage man
pliant remnant
monk 
storm hedge
The not so good thing is my guild's propably gonna make heal
balmy condor
you got.... your monk ready?
storm hedge
Monk is like the closest thing to rogue if you think about it
I'm not gonna play a warrior.
And I ain't casting.
Until guild makes me heal 
balmy condor
yeah but ww is like notoriously weak for the last half decade
your escape plan from a spec that has been average or above since nathria
is a spec that has been worse every tier
it's just a strange move
pliant remnant
I heard Feral Druid is also another solid pick for a rogue to swap to.
idle radish
whats iron wires dps loss
pliant remnant
It also has combo points, and it's always good!
idle radish
in m+
storm hedge
Cause I've been playing rogue for too long
balmy condor
whats iron wires dps loss
5-6%
balmy condor
giga brain
brave comet
iron wire is so fucking strong i hate it
ripe sphinx
why is every assass rog a maghar orc
storm hedge
If you're in a brain dead pug 10 where nobody kicks or cc it's like a 50% dps increase
For the whole group
brave comet
or youre in a pug
it basically stops everyone from casting for the first 10 seconds if you want it to be like that
balmy condor
that is huge
I mean you're also talking about a gamemode where people willingly took a 7% dps hit for iron wire 2 months ago, and currently are swapping out of a 4-5% overall dps talent for +1.5% single target
so
just blindly throw darts at a board
who cares
brave comet
currently are swapping out of a 4-5% overall dps talent for +1.5% single target
whats this
storm hedge
At this point if I could have 3 vanishes for a 5% dps loss I'd get it
balmy condor
sudden demise for ttk
storm hedge
Cause I'm always ahead by like 300k anyways. pugs are weird
maiden sierra
all the sweats quit playing
brave comet
they're still playing
ripe sphinx
sometimes i like to pretend my pugs are like helpless little kittens and i have to carry them to victory
brave comet
go try and parse in mythic raids
dawn seal
Do u think kyveza is harder than ovinax
brave comet
its insane how the numbers continue to go up and up
dawn seal
To prog
maiden sierra
go try and parse in mythic raids
got my purple and gold parses, its quite easy in fact
granted ive not raided in 4 weeks
balmy condor
its insane how the numbers continue to go up and up
I mean that's just because strands buff keeps going up
pliant remnant
Insane how getting flat percentage damage buffs and item levels on ring gives people more damage
maiden sierra
man i cant wait to watch race to world last
when the piss low guilds fight for CE til last minute
ripe sphinx
I mean that's just because strands buff keeps going up
did u used to raid with haunted by murlocs?
balmy condor
when during race it was HOLY SHIT LIQUID IS PUSHING AT SIXTY ONE????????????
THATS SO LOW
ripe sphinx
your name is familiar
balmy condor
never heard of it
ripe sphinx
alter ego?
brave comet
yeah my guild is right now at 43% on queen at the end of p1
and i dont think theyre the best
balmy condor
yeah that's a full 20% lower than it was during first kills
idle radish
i never know what to run, between MA/double vanish or sudden demise/lethality
storm hedge
That's literally the same as on heroic at the start of season
idle radish
i think i prefer to drop some aoe for some ST, but but idk
balmy condor
alter ego?
as in that's the name of a guild or what
cause I've never heard of them either
ripe sphinx
cause I've never heard of them either
ima stop throwing names out then 💔
balmy condor
unlucky
ripe sphinx
i thought ive seen u before
maiden sierra
when my guild finished prog 4 weeks ago, we ended p1 at 40%, we were even wondering if taking 3 tanks instead of 1 dps was worth for memes
idle radish
when my guild finished prog 4 weeks ago, we ended p1 at 40%, we were even wonder...
lusting p1?
balmy condor
I mean I don't doubt you've seen me before
maiden sierra
lusting p1?
no
balmy condor
I am kinda everywhere
storm hedge
I am kinda everywhere
this guy
idle radish
you ended p1 at 40% with no lust?
maiden sierra
you ended p1 at 40% with no lust?
yeah
balmy condor
I mean I've spent the last 5 years of my life making sure that my name literally gets shoved down your throat with anything assassination rogue
maiden sierra
wait, i might have the % wrong
idle radish
i think u do
maiden sierra
its been a while
idle radish
40% is crazy
ripe sphinx
I mean I've spent the last 5 years of my life making sure that my name literally...
yeahhh but i have nothing to do with rogue
im a fury warr otp
balmy condor
no clue then
maiden sierra
whispyr who?
balmy condor
I was a raid lead from legion through nathria and then trialled with 3 guilds for like a week and then joined my current guild and have been there since
maiden sierra
never heard about the guy
pliant remnant
There's also more rogues called Whispyr than there are guys called Muhammad
balmy condor
true
maiden sierra
There's also more rogues called Whispyr than there are guys called Muhammad
not seen a single uber eats guy called whispyr
balmy condor
my name irl isn't much better
literally fucking Jannick Mueller I'm the John Smith of germany
pliant remnant
Jannick Mueller
balmy condor
there's legit like 10 mil+ versions of me
ripe sphinx
I was a raid lead from legion through nathria and then trialled with 3 guilds fo...
i was also trialing alot of guilds in shadowlands, maybe that
who knows
balmy condor
If it weren't for the colored hair I would legit just be generic white euro dude #19
brave comet
I was a raid lead from legion through nathria and then trialled with 3 guilds fo...
i'm in the process myself. but you actually trialed for 3 guilds each a week?
balmy condor
what
no
how would that even work
I trialled for 3 guilds and they all fell apart
brave comet
what
balmy condor
what
brave comet
youre the harbinger of guilds deaths
balmy condor
nah, they were already dying I got pulled in to trial because they needed bodies mostly
maiden sierra
1 of the guilds i trialed at, dispaned on mythic aberus council on the 4th week of the season
seemed the leadership was done with shit
balmy condor
I wasn't going to play shadowlands
but then some random guy in here took me to my current guild
and I liked it
and then mystler retired and I got the wowhead guide
and then I became mod here
and then it was doomed
balmy condor
legit was about to put in resignation and boss came in and promoted me fucking headass
smh
maiden sierra
but hey, at least you get to tell max you love him, unless hes faster than you
balmy condor
he don't like talking to me much I think
but idk I can't tell what he's thinking most of the time
maiden sierra
tbf max just got adhd
balmy condor
ye
dapper cradle
liquid max?
balmy condor
blizzard max
maiden sierra
hard to read wgats on the mans head
maiden sierra
runic hinge
Solo was too pure for that channel
pliant remnant
maiden sierra
anyone who plays outlaw is automaticly put on a sex predator list
balmy condor
idk bout that
runic hinge
They are all in high school over there
balmy condor
that's a bit unhinged
balmy condor
but they got some demons over there for sure
maiden sierra
yeah im just very passionate about hating outlaw 
brave comet
i mained outlaw last season, i played assassination this season cause outlaw is trash rn. but i dont watch anime so i cant be on that list
dapper cradle
i mained outlaw last season, i played assassination this season cause outlaw is ...
wouldn't say it's trash this season
defs not strong in keys compared to sin
but p strong in raid