#assassination
subtle tundra
whats wrest
quiet oar
whats wrest
pull in
fringe crater
Dunno, maybe they were talking about the small aoe circle around you when replying
subtle tundra
i pull out man
fringe crater
i'll check my logs, have a bunch where I use feint on it
fringe crater
Does U mean unmitigated and M mitigated? If so, seems to work
I have cheat death talented btw
quiet oar
It seems to work yeah
fringe crater
so no elusiveness
fringe crater
Yeah, could prob even drop cloak because of it on the second one
fringe crater
I mean, doesn't it deny wrest damage? It's nature
quiet oar
No
fringe crater
the second one hurts like a motherfucker
quiet oar
thats something i know for a fact
fringe crater
How? There's no way a nature spell does not get denied by it?
fringe crater
quiet oar
yeah but it has a physical component in it
quiet oar
First second is the full immunity thing
so checks out
but bop does work too
so i use the cloak for walking into the voidzone
grim jay
has all this info btw
How does it feel to get ignored in the heat of the argument
quiet oar
and bop for denying pull in
royal lantern
quiet oar
Does cloak work for the pull in ?
midnight mist
How does it feel to get ignored in the heat of the argument
nvm i was wrong anyway, he filled the info for basically everything but queen
royal lantern
no
quiet oar
yeah ok
royal lantern
you can cloak and run into old puddles
fringe crater
cloak to deny puddles + damage, step to deny pull-in
quiet oar
If im assigned to do the CDs, i want my BOP 
royal lantern
+less physical dmg during cloak as deathstalker
fringe crater
no need to use a bop on a rogue
quiet oar
rogue will never be assigned cd's in intermission
I literally was assigned
fringe crater
I mean, whatever works for your guild is what you do
quiet oar
me and the frost dk use it
fringe crater
you can bitch about it post prog
earnest remnant
Facts
final star
I literally was assigned
My condolences
final star
natty dps is enough to break it now
royal lantern
based
earnest remnant
so i can use full potential of CDs
You can do that without bop 
fringe crater
Just step in the 0.1 sec you have to stay in melee to deny wrest and no bop needed, easy
quiet oar
I could
earnest remnant
I don’t leave melee
quiet oar
But i can keep the illusion of me needing it
fringe crater
Nah you do you, if they force you to use cds, you demand their bop king
royal lantern
You can do that without bop <:OMEGAKEKW:829051106361344021>
let him be lazy mate
earnest remnant
I mean I respect it
royal lantern
if i can get a free bop, ill take it aswell
earnest remnant
Hustle the dumbass palas
fringe crater
Next up you can demand to be a thunderlord while they are a roaring andy with the ring cheese
midnight mist
They assigned me to every fucking mechanic on queen
deserved you noob
humble verge
man, i green logged on queen last night only cause i got fucking shackled and web bladed
earnest remnant
midnight mist
man, i green logged on queen last night only cause i got fucking shackled and we...
skill issue
quiet oar
you also get a 99% slow for 5sec
Trick is, to get hit by the last one
so the slow is whatever
rare jackal
cut to ribbons!
fringe crater
Just demand freedom from your pala after for the slow, they are your BoP bitch anyway, might as well push your luck
final star
Just demand freedom from your pala after for the slow, they are your BoP bitch a...
they are assigned for roots 
quiet oar
Just demand freedom from your pala after for the slow, they are your BoP bitch a...
I do get freedoms for roots anyways
fringe crater
I just stand in melee, we have a totemic enh shaman who does 100 mil on roots 🤷♂️
earnest remnant
Loved that fight
quiet oar
I just stand in melee, we have a totemic enh shaman who does 100 mil on roots 🤷...
We have enough freedoms anyways
3 palas nad 2 hunters
so
fringe crater
As long as you stand in front of her in our guild, you don't really need a break. You just need to not get tilted when your envenom parries for the umpteenth time
fringe crater
I didn't even think about KB and shiv, that does explain a bunch of pulls
and how I was doubting my sanity
quiet oar
I dont think Shiv can be parreid
but KB definitely
happened way too often
and DN envenoms 
and ER buffs get consumed too
iirc
rare jackal
getting parried? skill issue if you ask me
this post was fact checked by trickster gang
fringe crater
10 stacks of amp poison: check
Shiv: check
DN: check
thistle tea: check
Envenom: Parry
quiet oar
getting parried? skill issue if you ask me
this post was fact checked by trickst...
Imagine being a sub
fringe crater
despair
quiet oar
rare jackal
Imagine being a sub
imagine NOT playing sub
quiet oar
i dont have to imagine that
thats literally what i do
(because i have no transmitter)
fringe crater
Imagine playing sub when you have yet to see a transmitter drop
rare jackal
scared of managing cooldowns? breaking your brain to do okay damage? getting fucked by RNG on deathstalker?
rare jackal
i actually think this current iteration is harder than dust
when it comes to min maxing at least
royal lantern
or DN Envenom
what DN
quiet oar
Idk, need to get a transmitter to test it
rare jackal
Idk, need to get a transmitter to test it
yeah without transmitter its a bit XD
fringe crater
got'em
quiet oar
yeah without transmitter its a bit XD
Transmitter is a 50K dps upgrade for me
fringe crater
Took me ages to realize it was a fist weapon and not a sword
quiet oar
as sub
rare jackal
Transmitter is a 50K dps upgrade for me
yeah its unfortunately super important
quiet oar
Good thing i have the neck from Silken court
primal jolt
hello baddies
pliant remnant
hello daddy
primal jolt
pliant remnant
royal lantern
nothing really?
limber lion
It's the easiest it's been in a long time
royal lantern
assa is the same gameplay for a good while now
balmy condor
assa this patch plays itself compared to every other patch in the last 7-8 years
they've removed a ton of complexity
strange python
can i get a quick tldr of how shiv, bane and deathmark synergise
i dont understand
balmy condor
shiv increases nature damage and bleed damage with arterial precision
balmy condor
kingsbane does nature damage
deathmark doubles bleeds and poisons
poisons are nature damage
kingsbane ramps with poisons
strange python
so does it double bleeds thate are already applied
strange python
and for kingsbane u just spam envenoms
balmy condor
you spam envenoms during shiv cause they're 30% stronger cause nature damage
strange python
ok
balmy condor
kingsbane just wants poisons applied during it
which happens automatically with the buff
strange python
ok thank you
balmy condor
mhm
quiet oar
What
balmy condor
some guilds do it early in prog to get through it I guess
but at some point completely unnecessary
balmy condor
we did it for like 10 pulls and then the shield got instantly blown up and we just started lusting on pull like everyone else
dawn seal
If we get used to it tho isn't it gonna be bad
balmy condor
no?
quiet oar
Its for Progression the Thing after intermission
balmy condor
you limp through the intermission with lust like a couple times just to see a bit of p2 or whatever
rare jackal
blast the boss on pull so you dont have play the second wave in p3
dawn seal
Oh
balmy condor
but if 20 people are alive for the whole shield there is no situation where you do not break the shield
dawn seal
Can u skip intermission on mythic
dawn seal
but if 20 people are alive for the whole shield there is no situation where you ...
Oh I see
Oh damn
Chads
subtle tundra
If we get used to it tho isn't it gonna be bad
The point of the lust is to be able to prog further even if you make mistakes
dawn seal
I am concerned cuz we ll remove damage gems from ring 
balmy condor
what
subtle tundra
Shield is binary fail pass
midnight mist
do i shiv in aoe outside of kb
balmy condor
do i shiv in aoe outside of kb
if you have arterial or want prio damage, yes, otherwise for just overall no
subtle tundra
What do world rank 1000 even cook
midnight mist
if you have arterial or want prio damage, yes, otherwise for just overall no
doesnt change with one point in er i assume
dawn seal
Wait
balmy condor
doesnt change with one point in er i assume
correct
dawn seal
we have all 20 people use the new circlet ring with storm sewer, mariner, old salt gems
This is what they said
dawn seal
Is there chance its the cook
subtle tundra
No
midnight mist
correct
at what target count does this change, or is it straight up st vs aoe at 2 targets
dawn seal
balmy condor
at what target count does this change, or is it straight up st vs aoe at 2 targe...
believe it's 5
dawn seal
How much does does it cost
subtle tundra
Cause you'll have to play 2nd ring in p3 if you don't have enough dps
balmy condor
but it's super whatever
subtle tundra
And you surely won't be able to execute it
dawn seal
We entered intermission with 52 with dps gems
subtle tundra
dawn seal
52%
balmy condor
We entered intermission with 52 with dps gems
that sucks
midnight mist
alright i will keep it in mind ty whisp
dawn seal
Oh is thst bad
balmy condor
yes
dawn seal
With lust
subtle tundra
Yes
balmy condor
we've entered the shield at 43
final star
assa this patch plays itself compared to every other patch in the last 7-8 years
amirdrassil assa was really good
balmy condor
most of the time we enter shield at 45-46
subtle tundra
You have no chance of skipping 2nd circle
subtle tundra
And that's the most important thing to optimize for
dawn seal
Oh god
final star
Let's see what we get the boss to
dawn seal
What happens in a scenario where we slot out dps gems
What do u think bout dps
% wiae
Wise
Wild guess
balmy condor
your raid loses 5-6% easily
subtle tundra
Stop tying to cook
subtle tundra
Just play better
final star
37%
subtle tundra
It's a mythic end boss
final star
dawn seal
🤔
subtle tundra
We had 45% with alts and a boost yesterday
subtle tundra
We can probably double boost with full main
dawn seal
Man I still have champion spymaster
balmy condor
I think if you do heal gems you will need to look at liquid race kill for timings because you will probably be behind even them
balmy condor
yes
like to put it in perspective, liquid during race was pushing at 60-62%
you're at 52% with dps gems
subtle tundra
15 ilvl and 16% dmg buff over them
balmy condor
probably at least 57% without
subtle tundra
balmy condor
you are legit just devolving your raid to the stone age
and doing an enrage-timer kill
midnight mist
15 ilvl and 16% dmg buff over them
they playing without taking the damage buff
to get the true experience
final star
that's real af
subtle tundra
they playing without taking the damage buff
Ohhh ethical group
royal lantern
you are legit just devolving your raid to the stone age
balmy condor
15 ilvl and 16% dmg buff over them
and health nerf
final star
and nothing does damage anymore
balmy condor
pprobably outranging for a bit yeh
balmy condor
what are you popping defensively
royal lantern
flash heal
midnight mist
I mean tbf
balmy condor
dawn seal
It's cuz I have to burn everything or I die
subtle tundra
You call for an external
midnight mist
You don't have to stand outside in Narnia
dawn seal
Yeah I get yelled at doing that
subtle tundra
You have discord right
dawn seal
So they said
balmy condor
midnight mist
For the whole length of the debuff
final star
Your guild is a prison
balmy condor
so this is just a continuation of your guild being idiots
dawn seal
Balls kill other Queens bane people
midnight mist
I mean idk
dawn seal
So first balls must be a bit further
dawn seal
But aren't I in range of 2 healers
balmy condor
I guess just have to blink
midnight mist
Then go out more
Xd
Ye just blink out like a real mage
Also
Why are you a mage
And not a rogue
balmy condor
real and true
royal lantern
so this is just a continuation of your guild being idiots
familiar isnt it
balmy condor
familiar isnt it
I hate my fucking life bro
final star
From the outside looking in, if I may say so, it seems your guild has more problems than if you play Rogue or Mage
final star
But I suppose you can only change you 😄
dawn seal
Where our feral did more healing
On me
Then hewlers
But ye
I am a bad player
I am trying to fix that
I am also new
Ish
I have times where I don't hit buttons when I do mechanics 
dawn seal
Yeh
We wiped 10 times on 220th pull on court
Where holy priest didn't had a weak aura
And died and wiped during web pullins
Cuz she was confused
It was so funny
final star
we just hard assigned left/right
dawn seal
Oh
final star
it worked better than relying on weak aura
final star
Delete weak auras !
Bart's aura updater actually so good though
dawn seal
midnight mist
@balmy condor question, how big is a kb in AOE without dm
Like is it anything to write about
Or does that thing mega suck
midnight mist
I don't understand sin yet
balmy condor
I mean it's worth using but it's not giga bonkers
balmy condor
yes
midnight mist
Do you have numbers like
balmy condor
but solo kb is very much weaker
midnight mist
Say you are doing 100% more dam during dm
dawn seal
Oh wait
midnight mist
How much would kb be
dawn seal
Does kb get doubled on d mark
midnight mist
In aoe
balmy condor
Does kb get doubled on d mark
not but the extra lethal dose and poisons ramping it faster is really good
okay
dawn seal
Ohh
dawn seal
Then u hit max stacks faster
subtle tundra
not but the extra lethal dose and poisons ramping it faster is really good
And you have skardyn macrod
midnight mist
Really why I'm asking that is cause I never know if sometimes I should delay dm by like 30s to get a good kb usage or whatever
It's something I struggle a bit with cd specs
Outlaw brain you know
royal lantern
thats a bit of a "depeends on the situation" thing tbh
balmy condor
yeh there is nothing I can say to help with that
midnight mist
You did
balmy condor
okay I'm glad
subtle tundra
If delaying the dm gives a better dm, you send kb
balmy condor
yeh
subtle tundra
As in, more targets
Otherwise you want to get as many uses as possible
Of dm
And skardyn
midnight mist
the best part of trial and error is the error
In keys you can't trial and error as much
vestal cliff
when do you guys use tempered potions in m+? on CD or just on bosses?
midnight mist
I need to build a better intuition of these stuffs
final star
Sure, eventually you just get that sixth sense like Bruce Willis
subtle tundra
when do you guys use tempered potions in m+? on CD or just on bosses?
On cd
balmy condor
when do you guys use tempered potions in m+? on CD or just on bosses?
whatever the difficult part is
final star
especially cos ur route is planned
balmy condor
but yeh
final star
so you should have an idea of what's coming
balmy condor
on cd as long as you have it for the pull that's wiping you
midnight mist
Sure, eventually you just get that sixth sense like Bruce Willis
Ye idk, I have the master sense for outlaw but I'm clueless on ass
final star
that's cos you don't need to think about what cd press on outlaw ever
vestal cliff
okay so in easy keys i just slam it on CD
balmy condor
yes
final star
it doesn't have cd's
vestal cliff
tyty <3
final star
button off cd I press no repurcussion
subtle tundra
@midnight mist ring is so op it's infinite dmg
midnight mist
Why do you say that to me
midnight mist
that's cos you don't need to think about what cd press on outlaw ever
You can do similar things with vanish nowadays, and there is a bunch of other stuffs you think about similarly
Varas
Just accept it
You are washed up
subtle tundra
Yep
subtle tundra
Yep
midnight mist
When are you playing again
subtle tundra
I have a sesh today
Kinda hard to balance schedules when people have jobs real life uni
midnight mist
Yep same
We are wanting to play tgp
Our healer is doing firefighter stuffs for most of it
I work
There is ptr raid testing
Etc
Life is hard no cap
I wish I was unemployed
But with money
If anyone wanna give me money
I don't mind
@final star
Did you know
dawn seal
Yay no healing gem strat guys
midnight mist
The Aug I play with
dawn seal
Apperwntly it is cancelled
midnight mist
Joined nocco
golden loom
I wanna join nocco just cause its the best energy drink in the world
final star
Joined nocco
Yaya?
midnight mist
Ye
final star
Yeah I know
strange sleet
Bro this game is cooked. ppl not taking you in m+ groups with 630ilvl DPS I can understand because most pugs are pretty bad; but I'm not even getting invis with my pala tank 623 for 10's... bro I don't even have to use defensive cd's in most 9's this is crazy
dawn seal
Aat what % do u guys enter intermission to skip 2nd ring
balmy condor
idk exact % but probably should be under 45% to have a chance
rare jackal
idk exact % but probably should be under 45% to have a chance
sounds about right
from our last kill where we skipped
balmy condor
yah that seems reasonable
dawn seal
Hm
balmy condor
incredible
dawn seal
Poggers
balmy condor
yah I mean if you guys lust pull eventually when shield is free
dawn seal
We lusted oull
balmy condor
and then some people learn to dps
dawn seal
On 52
balmy condor
oh
dawn seal
dawn seal
I think yes
balmy condor
okay
balmy condor
minor hope restored
dawn seal
Lemme check eait
balmy condor
if you get to p2 with a lust on pull and 20 alive and you're like not under 50
you're lowkey fucked
supple spindle
heyo, quick question: so after opener in aoe, when garrote + rupture are about to fall off, do i try and reapply bleeds to all the targets or just keep the dots on the main one?
balmy condor
you should be trying to maintain 5 ruptures for scent
- garrote on main target for 6 is enough energy as well
if you don't reapply dots to multiple enemies you'll just starve on energy
that's part of the reason why assa aoe is so good atm
supple spindle
so just rupture + generate cb + switch target + rupture and so on untill at least 5 targets with rupture, right?
balmy condor
I mean you can refresh a little sooner obviously you don't need to wait for every rupture to drop
you don't want to sit there and just rupture tab rupture tab rupture
like smooth it out a little at least
but yes generally that is the idea
supple spindle
oh god im talking to sexy hair guy what do i do whyspir hi you're sexyt
balmy condor
hi
dawn seal
I think we are fuckrd
midnight mist
you don't want to sit there and just rupture tab rupture tab rupture
thats bad ?
midnight mist
usually if a pack is a long pack, and my first set of rupture is falling off, im kinda just pressing ruptures for the next 5 finishers or so
balmy condor
yeah that's fucked bro
midnight mist
well how else would you reapply tho
balmy condor
you would weave it in
ever heard of pandemic?
you're just standing there for 10 seconds rupturing with no envenoms?
no buff?
just raw?
that's so fucked man
midnight mist
ever heard of pandemic?
ye since everything was applied at the same time during ic, every rupture will start pandemic at the same time
i didnt know maintaining env was important that way
golden loom
would rather miss some pandemic vaulue then probably
balmy condor
I mean it's not important but you can at least just maintain the buff
like do 2 ruptures, hit an env on your caustic or whatever for the buff
3 more ruptures
no issues
if stuff is dying you need to rupture even less cause them dying will give you big energy back
so you can ignore rupture even more in that situation
safe field
does sudden demise build affect my rotation in dungeo?
balmy condor
no
same rotation
you'll just have bigger kingsbane/envenoms
and smaller ruptures/garrotes/crimson tempests
the damage shifts a little but the rotation is the same
midnight mist
I mean it's not important but you can at least just maintain the buff
Oki
final star
Looking at advance log they don't even get 2 DM in p3 now 💀
supple spindle
oh btw, fatebound and deathstalker are both good? or it's the same situation like with other specs that one hero talents set performs better almost in every scenario?
final star
That boss is getting turbo fucked
golden loom
deathstalker aoe, fatebound on PURE single target
midnight mist
Whospar
balmy condor
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/pPCwmg1GQdHv6yfN?fight=30&type=damage-done
also I just pulled up a couple random pulls from our prog tonight cut down to the first 2min where your first dps died and we consistently have 10% more dps than us, so we're entering at like 42-44%, your guild with everyone up atm probably is like 4-5% behind that
so
midnight mist
Am I losing big dam if I enter cds without env already active
supple spindle
deathstalker aoe, fatebound on PURE single target
so fatebound is viable only on kyveza and sikran? :0
balmy condor
Am I losing big dam if I enter cds without env already active
if the target is living your full cds, yes
golden loom
ye pretty much
midnight mist
Oh I see
dawn seal
also I just pulled up a couple random pulls from our prog tonight cut down to th...
Ohh
I just learned that our goal was also to do 2nd ring
balmy condor
Yeah that’s normal
You always plan for 2nd ring in case
But ideally with everyone up you can skip
balmy condor
What % going into p2
That’s gotta be like over 50%
I just checked a reference video we have for Strat
They’re at 53.9 going into p3 and 11.5 after second ring
There ain’t no way
You’re pushing at like 52?
dawn seal
Can u sim flasks
balmy condor
Yes ofc
dawn seal
Some people told me I should alwaysuse alchemical chaos but I feel like I should sim
balmy condor
There’s a pin in #tc-research for all consumables
balmy condor
Some people told me I should alwaysuse alchemical chaos but I feel like I shoul...
Those people are correct
dawn seal
Oh
balmy condor
Alchemical is much better than any alternative
balmy condor
Don’t gotta trust me even, can trust every rogue on earth 
Running not alchemical means your potion is weaker
dawn seal
Hmm
balmy condor
There would have to be a MAJOR stat imbalance for it to be bad on a spec
It’s possible I’d assume
dawn seal
I think I kinda have that on my frost mage
I felt like it's better to have a crit flask due to thst
dawn seal
Hm
iron carbon
I missed something, why are you asking some Logs review on your mage on a rogue server?
dawn seal
I did not
dawn seal
balmy condor
Imposter among us
iron carbon
Oh no, really just asking
balmy condor
One of the good ones
iron carbon
I see a log link and a chat about it, was wondering what happening ^^
dawn seal
I didn't ask any mage log reviews 
dawn seal
I see a log link and a chat about it, was wondering what happening ^^
It was about boss %
balmy condor
They play rogue but are playing mage on prog I think
dawn seal
And queen 2nd ring
iron carbon
Oooooooooh
balmy condor
Something like that
golden loom
Mage discord is probably dead cause main character class has nothing to complain about, so asking here about boss damage is probably better
balmy condor
Based
iron carbon
Make sense
dawn seal
Whispyr is usually very good with theory crafting and with numbers and etc I just saw that they are around so I just wanted to ask bout it
iron carbon
Good call to ask him
balmy condor
I am known as a number man this is true
iron carbon
Not a man of culture but a man of numbers
dawn seal
I play mainly mage but my goto content is raiding x amount of times I can raid in a week and I love rogues so I am also trying to be better on a none caster class
royal lantern
What % going into p2
45%-ish
balmy condor
Numbers are a culture
balmy condor
45%-ish
You’re pushing p2 at 45%
And you’re only 10% at second ring?
Did 5 people die or something
iron carbon
royal lantern
our RL hard carrys the guild
dawn seal
But hey on my rogue people in the team just said they don't wanna do 2 day raiding and stoop after rashanan so womp womp for me
Whenever I die on a prof
iron carbon
Weak
iron carbon
Speaking of court, first try tomorrow
dawn seal
A magical cookie is rare
Its the best one
It has ur fav flavor when u eat it
Flavor depends on who ever eats it
Basically hence magical
gusty mirage
holy shit
dawn seal
best one
nova python
balmy condor
iron carbon
supple spindle
I sometimes call <@167090536602140682> my magical cookie because I make his boot...
i mean whyspir is kinda hot so i cannot judge you here
drowsy bone
Has anybody here tried pushing as BOTH sin and outlaw and can give me a feedback of enjoyment gameplaywise?
PS: Ive pushed throughout S1 tww as sin and didnt enjoy it as much as outlaw in S1-2-3 of DF. Havent touched outlaw since though.
spice surge
Just play whatever you enjoy the most. Theres outlaw onetricks with good rating
supple spindle
iirc outlaw is apm gambling machine, no?
spice surge
And if youre worried about invite discrimination just queue as assa and then swap to outlaw before the key starts 
drowsy bone
I dont enjoy the feeling of lacking energy specially during bosses that sin give
PLUS the loss of the deathstalker on dual bosses
clever sapphire
you always roll dice, no?
afaik that doesnt matter as much as people think
royal lantern
How far apart are the rings time wise
idk
our strat was keeping BL until first ring was done + small spiders spawn->BL and blast everything down and everyone has CDs->boss at like 6-10% hp depeending if popsong and ratio are idiots once again
supple spindle
I dont enjoy the feeling of lacking energy specially during bosses that sin give
oh i kinda agree actually, i always thought it was energy management issue on my side
balmy condor
Dice these days you also got like a million free rolls as well from cto and stuff
So even when you roll bad you roll good
supple spindle
Dice these days you also got like a million free rolls as well from cto and stuf...
gacha simulator spec, just luring you into gambling with free rolls 😄
balmy condor
True actually
supple spindle
all my experience with rogue was with assa and outlaw only and i don't have any idea what's the sub thing
i mean assa - dot spec, outlaw - apm
and what sub does?
royal lantern
<:Cringe:750832154358972427>
who has the kill with 33% less raidtime
blazing pumice
sits there doing nothing until cds
iron carbon
and what sub does?
Burst windows
earnest remnant
all my experience with rogue was with assa and outlaw only and i don't have any ...
charge management with unreal burst dmg
balmy condor
who has the kill with 33% less raidtime <:kekw:610125925413289985>
Yeah don’t remind me man
Agony
royal lantern
i mean assa - dot spec, outlaw - apm
well, rn its more like
assa - 2min burst spec
sub -1,5min burst spec
outlaw - we talk about rogue lol
balmy condor
I’m pretty sure half my viewers just like watching me in pain
Sick fucks
P1 wipe over and over and over
gusty mirage
I’m pretty sure half my viewers just like watching me in pain
we do
supple spindle
I’m pretty sure half my viewers just like watching me in pain
i'd watch you oiled up actually
balmy condor
i'd watch you oiled up actually
gusty mirage
hate watching when you, yourself is done with a tier
"Oh whispyr is streaming"
POV
royal lantern
P1 wipe over and over and over
random deaths, or mechanic wipes?
earnest remnant
yes
balmy condor
we invent new ways to wipe
supple spindle
we invent new ways to wipe
well that's one way of putting it, gotta appreciate the grind
gusty mirage
the real fun is quitting the game and then tuning in whenever and you get that pov all the time @earnest remnant
royal lantern
is it a singular player problem and they dont learn, or just everyone being dumb
gusty mirage
because you're always "done" with the tier if you don't play
golden loom
Was watching the youtube vods, no music, just p1 wipes
gusty mirage
golden loom
Cinema
balmy condor
Was watching the youtube vods, no music, just p1 wipes
YouTube is actually so dystopian with the streams
supple spindle
oh btw, what're you blasting when playing usually? because i think rogue as a class is only dnb
royal lantern
https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-por-que-no-gif-23322568
i dont speak french
balmy condor
You stream a copyrighted song and YouTube in real time shuts down your stream
golden loom
YouTube is actually so dystopian with the streams
The player is 100x better but the dmca shit is fried
gusty mirage
i dont speak french
royal lantern
oh btw, what're you blasting when playing usually? because i think rogue as a cl...
rogue...?
gusty mirage
mfer sees non-English that isn't in all caps and thinks "French", typical German
balmy condor
oh btw, what're you blasting when playing usually? because i think rogue as a cl...
Dark techno, psytrance, and various rap
royal lantern
rogue main since TBC where i could barely understand the controlls 
royal lantern
mfer sees non-English that isn't in all caps and thinks "French", typical German
its a joke 😦
royal lantern
supple spindle
wow people are gonna kiss
royal lantern
maybe even holding hands
supple spindle
no way
gusty mirage
maybe even holding hands
not before marriage pls
supple spindle
don't tell me you actually gonna build warm relationships and actually talk through all of your personal issues
that's crazy
gusty mirage
nah we just pretend we don't have any issues so that it builds up and boils over ~2 months later
supple spindle
nah we just pretend we don't have any issues so that it builds up and boils over...
i thought you might raise a child and transfer all of your broken hopes and dreams onto them
but this also works fine i think
balmy condor
nah we just pretend we don't have any issues so that it builds up and boils over...
I usually prefer just going “feet?” In quake’s DMs
That’s my coping mechanism
supple spindle
I usually prefer just going “feet?” In quake’s DMs
feet?
balmy condor
Feet?
royal lantern
don't tell me you actually gonna build warm relationships and actually talk thro...
bruh, i dont want that cus im sure the other person would get giga depressed
supple spindle
mental instability is a character trait at this point
balmy condor
bruh, i dont want that cus im sure the other person would get giga depressed
Feet?
royal lantern
i managed to make my therapist say "thats messed up" 
grim jay
Imagine being mature enough to see a therapist
balmy condor
Will do
royal lantern
https://tenor.com/view/vulpera-world-of-warcraft-warcraft-gif-26162364
we need vulpera whisp back
supple spindle
can i be considered sane if i have a strong desire to reroll all of my characters dractyr?
balmy condor
we need vulpera whisp back
I do miss flips, but getting stuck under the fucking rat nest in first boss freehold made me insane
supple spindle
i mean, i already did with my warlock and i can't live now without the double jump
royal lantern
no
im a scaly and dont do it because they have no transmog
balmy condor
no
im a scaly and dont do it because they have no transmog
Can’t you perma visage form now though?
supple spindle
no
im a scaly and dont do it because they have no transmog
ye, just perma visage
balmy condor
Yeah exactly
royal lantern
Can’t you perma visage form now though?
YES I PLAY DRACTHYR TO PLAY A FUCK ELF
YES THATS WHY I PLAY THE DRAGON RACE
TOO PLAY A ELF
balmy condor
royal lantern
royal lantern
fucking human
spice spire
I usually prefer just going “feet?” In quake’s DMs
?
supple spindle
i think rerolling into dragon to play rogue is like rerolling into tauren to play rogue
supple spindle
but to reroll into dragon to double jump - that's based
royal lantern
dh has a double jump
golden loom
they should give demonhunter double jump to everyone
spice spire
Dog
supple spindle
its no double jump
i mean yes, but you still get a boost + you ignore some stuff
spice spire
I know what you are but what am I
A bitch
supple spindle
I know what you are but what am I
sexy hair man ofc
final star
https://tenor.com/view/vulpera-world-of-warcraft-warcraft-gif-26162364
idk why this is unsettling but it is
spice spire
You are what you eat what can I say
Don’t eat female dogs
royal lantern
i mean yes, but you still get a boost + you ignore some stuff
isnt it slower then walking now
for non evoker
balmy condor
sexy hair man ofc
supple spindle
isnt it slower then walking now
no, you still get a boost compared to just walking
balmy condor
idk why this is unsettling but it is
It’s HD vulpera
royal lantern
Don’t eat female dogs
talking about dogs, can we get a george pic 
balmy condor
Don’t eat female dogs
Too late, your mother so good I’m going back for seconds
golden loom
no good looking dagger tmog from plunderstorm 
supple spindle
Too late, your mother so good I’m going back for seconds
radiant raven
no good looking dagger tmog from plunderstorm <a:SadgeCry:753273870403895366>
Purple birb though. THat's the real victory
balmy condor
https://tenor.com/view/black-cat-stare-gif-21084269
spice spire
talking about dogs, can we get a george pic <:dracthyr_love:1002454142524067861>
Forgot to take one yesterday and running late so not today Unfort
spice spire
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/747561446539395205/1225450138269519923/...
Please stop
supple spindle
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/747561446539395205/1225450138269519923/...
cool, now draw it pregnant
balmy condor
Please stop
Unemployed but her feet givin me a job ya feel
spice spire
royal lantern
Forgot to take one yesterday and running late so not today Unfort
its ok, just give him much love later 
spice spire
Always 
dense badger
Doggo pics? Where do I sign up
royal lantern
Doggo pics? Where do I sign up
dense badger
Much appreciate
supple spindle
i can post there my kitty as well?
supple spindle
most important that the pets are loved
spice spire
Yes
supple spindle
what about pet scorpion
ofc
craggy elk
what WA you guys using?
spice spire
!wa
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
spice spire
I use whispyr’s personally
craggy elk
thats the one im using
what about talent builds for mythic plus?
this is what im running atm
craggy elk
Ok 🙂
now im trying to use envenom on 5+ combo points im always getting to 7 lmao
or i land on 4 lol
tame slate
Could anyone help me out? If I practice on target dummy I can do 1 million dps single target but in m+ my dps is almost half that due to dodging mechanics anyone got any tips that could help or videos/rescoirces?
pure moth
Could anyone help me out? If I practice on target dummy I can do 1 million dps s...
!guide for basics
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
pure moth
Can probably log a dungeon so people can look at your damage breakdown/ casts and such
supple spindle
yeah no i think pov's are good and all, but only for caster classes
since it's hard (for me at least) to tell what's happening on the screen when any of melee classes play
like, at least 15k buttons are pressed in a span of a few seconds
rain coral
hey one question, is the crafted ring in 636 crit/mastery better than the Seal of the Poisoned Pact in 626? according to raidbot it slighty performs better in raid cleave and single target, but less in M+
iam thinking about the proc, how does raid bot weight the proc from the ring?
spice surge
It does damage like it does ingame
rain coral
y but iam surprised that is not perfoming better than the crafted ring
iam y its 636 to 626, but still the proc should be a beast
rain coral
y but for rogue
spice surge
It doesnt work with any rogue things
rain coral
oke, but still 300k dmg extra
spice surge
Sims evaluate it correctly 
rain coral
what you mean?
hollow river
what you mean?
If the sim says it’s the worse option, then it is the worse option
hallow token
from the blue tracker re: 1/3 hotfixes: "Fixed an issue where only rogues with inscription could pickpocket Ashvane Pistol Technique from pirates, now all rogues can pickpocket the technique."
ANyone else give up pickpocketing almost completely during Shadowlands or whatever?
maiden sierra
No?
Did you not pickpocket the kobolds for their wax?
coral stump
I want to kill goblins already...
what if goblins are rouge friends
maiden sierra
what if goblins are rouge friends
Anything thats kickable is not a friend
Including children
coral stump
children are the devil anyways
hallow token
idk since Shadowlands I am usually surprised if a mob has pockets.
coral stump
goblins are great tho i love rocket jump
maiden sierra
Gnoblins are cringe
coral stump
true, idk what a gnoblin is
maiden sierra
Its a goblin, but well versed in sucking cock
warm vortex
Imagine if after all this
Blizzard sees people not doing the ring stuff and waiting for it to finish so they can do it in one sitting
and go
"alright the catchup is now timegated"
coral stump
blizz always makes the best decisions
normal mist
Imagine if after all this
Blizzard sees people not doing the ring stuff and wai...
I'd be fucked
warm vortex
Same lmao
normal mist
Hi vendeten, how you doing?
shy axle
how do you prefer to use your 2 vanishs when playing the m+ double vanish spec? Do you try to always hold one for buffed kingsbane in aoe/st or do you just use it when your buffed gar runs out in st/aoe , or all the above and you have to decide on the fly?
spice surge
Generally you'd use it with DM unless you know you need it to spread bleeds soon
fleet patrol
Daily reminder to select me over blackjack
spice surge
Or the even better classic, use vanish for DM but the target dies before it even finishes 
Because shamans are exceptionally well balanced
supple spindle
can i be considered sane if i have a strong desire to reroll all of my character...
im omw on acquiring a dragon army guys
warm vortex
Hi vendeten, how you doing?
I'm good, barely been playing wow
just been going weekly doing my proffesions stuffs
Ill just get my ring on my 2 chars near the end week
Hbu royal
shy axle
@spice surge thank you
just doing 10s for gearing right now but damn, even the big mobs just melt away and dm/kb are not even finished yet
spice surge
Dw they melt away before DM is finished on 17s too a lot of the times
shy axle
catching myself with trying to hold it until i will get the full value but i guess thats wrong, a little bit is better than nothing
warm vortex
Haha for me it's binding of isaac
normal kindle
"The Siphoning Stiletto is an excellent weapon for an Assassination Rogue, given its high agility, beneficial secondary stats, and unique damage-dealing effect. It should serve well in both solo and group content, provided the random nature of its special effect aligns with your combat strategy. If you have the opportunity to acquire or craft this dagger, it would likely be a significant upgrade and a worthwhile investment for your character." Thank you GPT for your advice !!!
shy axle
LETS CRAFT IT THEN, what could go wrong
normal mist
"The Siphoning Stiletto is an excellent weapon for an Assassination Rogue, given...
Chat gpt is just a BSmith with the stiletto recipe and wants easy gold
normal kindle
Its a WORTHWHILE INVESTMENT !!! WE DO IT *
slate crown
"The Siphoning Stiletto is an excellent weapon for an Assassination Rogue, given...
slop detritus of the internet
slop slop
piggie slop
spice spire
slop detritus of the internet
Okay @ me dude
slate crown
Okay @ me dude
No matter how much I love the look on your face when I treat you like garbage, I will NEVER demean you to that degree by comparing you to chat GPT.
you're worth more than that
spice spire
No matter how much I love the look on your face when I treat you like garbage, I...
Roll that first part back homie
What
proven jasper
spice spire
gloomy heart
eeeeee
dawn heath
