assassination

[grim jay]

So romania

[subtle tundra]

Romania, but way poorer and with a lot of russians

but they are cool

[balmy condor]

So Moldova is to Romania exactly what Romania is to Europe

[subtle tundra]

y-yes

[balmy condor]

That’s neat

[ornate topaz]

Guys do you have slice and dice on the skill bar at all? I came back to the game after long time and found out envenom does slice and dice and just wondering if there are scrnarios whee you just have it on skillbar and jave to use it

[balmy condor]

No

[little tulip]

we just had a volcano erupt and for a few days everyone was having eye and sinus problems, hope your area isn't getting affected

[ornate topaz]

Ty 🙂

[grim jay]

Its also smaller than Berlin and slightly bigger than Hamburg

By population

[balmy condor]

Hamburger…..

[grim jay]

Dang now I want one

Or 5

[balmy condor]

5 HAMBURGERS?

THATS A LOT OF PEOPLE

[subtle tundra]

i just has pizza.

[balmy condor]

Varas what is the classic Romanian 10/10 food

[subtle tundra]

sarmale

cabbage rolls

this is my shit

not literally

got some at home

or even more romanian, mici

theres no bbq without mici

[little tulip]

[royal lantern]

actually god tier

[balmy condor]

Damn

I’m hungry

[grim jay]

Thats like

Just me

If I would only have one meal

And would bulk

[balmy condor]

You eat 5 people from Hamburg in a meal?

That’s wild

[spice surge]

Nice to meat you hungry, im eleem

[grim jay]

If they are small

[balmy condor]

Nice try raichu

[grim jay]

Eleem is one of those special raichu forms that didnt get released

They made those together with the cosplay pikachus

[balmy condor]

Raichu is canonically homosexual

And I intend to take advantage of that

[grim jay]

Wait

How

Both

[pliant remnant]

[subtle tundra]

hold up

they have sexuality?

[grim jay]

I mean they have gender and can breed

So possibly

[balmy condor]

Well the first one I made up so the second part works, the second one being eleem is big tall Viking person

But yeah idk there’s probably female raichu

I’ve never seen one

And neither have you

[subtle tundra]

me too wow

[balmy condor]

So therefore, gay

It’s good logic

[grim jay]

Tierno's raichu is female

Checkmate

[balmy condor]

That’s not a real word

You made that up

[grim jay]

No I googled it rq

[balmy condor]

AI ofc

[grim jay]

Its a trainer in pokemon xy

The series

[midnight mist]

Nice pin

[grim jay]

It even likes dancing

[balmy condor]

[grim jay]

And has a wartortle as a dancing partner

[balmy condor]

The raichu likes dancing

[radiant raven]

i thought xy were the games. They have a series too??

[balmy condor]

Kinda cute

[grim jay]

Yep

Didnt know either

[radiant raven]

what the fuck

I know so little

[balmy condor]

What, xy aren’t just chromosomes?

Shit

[radiant raven]

apperently they're pokemon too

[balmy condor]

I know so little

[grim jay]

I wish I had chromosomes

[balmy condor]

Do xy pokemon have xy chromosomes

[radiant raven]

pokésomes.

[grim jay]

Do they look like they have those

[radiant raven]

the slug guy on the right is cool.

big fan of the t-rex arms on the middle guy too

[grim jay]

Those are legs

Brother

Its like varas, he also skips legday

[subtle tundra]

yes

[radiant raven]

Wait, they're legs??? but

[hollow river]

Are those our new mounts in 11.1

[radiant raven]

Is there an animation of him walking on them

Ooh I guess he's a birb, I thought he was gonna like, bounce on his big tail.

[grim jay]

The slug has multiple forms

[grim jay]

I wish

[radiant raven]

Slug mecha

[subtle tundra]

the slug pipeline

[radiant raven]

Big fan of the slug, I would use the slug pokemon

[royal lantern]

yes, its a bird

[velvet herald]

Hey guys, I have been playing rogue for 1 month now...and killed some mythic bosses yesterday. On vault I receveid Blood-kissed Kukri 623 (wich I already have on my main hand) and Wings of shattered Sorrow. Should I get weapon or back?

[valid leaf]

Did Varas just post a picture of Sarma in the discord

[royal lantern]

the back

offhand is the least important slot, its just a stat stick

[golden loom]

offhand is lowest prio item, so probably cape knowing nothing else about ur char

[subtle tundra]

yes i did

[royal lantern]

mainhand = VERY important, biggest slot avaible

offhand = least important slot Overall

[velvet herald]

perfect ! thanks a lot people 🙂

[grim jay]

Whats sarma

Sounds like a dish

[subtle tundra]

the singular of sarmale

[spice spire]

Sarma deez nuts

[grim jay]

Pull em out and yank em on my desk

[normal lotus]

How are you dealing with bosses with low health adds like 2nd boss in dawn? Just caustic spatter or you vanishing and bleeding ?

[subtle tundra]

sbs is clutch

fast ruptures

fat CT

[jade abyss]

Depends on key level, on 12+ i vanish and rupture for sent stacks

[normal lotus]

Cool, but I guess lower on maybe pool points for a CT and focus boss or something

Coming from outlaw so it's not something I've really had to think about 😅

[dawn seal]

No pooling

I think

[floral solstice]

Hey guys, I'm having a hard time understanding which race is best for raids (ST mostly) ?

[daring hare]

Vulpera mostly

[floral solstice]

I have seen orc and maghar, but there is also the one called ''baseline'' ?

[midnight mist]

baselnie isnt a race

its the default from the sim

which is prolly orc for assa rn i dont remember

or was it that gnome thing

well it doesnt matter anywya

[dusk juniper]

quick question in raid. we have 2 shiv for our opener after that we moslty have 1 right so do i safe shiv for deathmark again so i have 2 shivs? or do i go into cds with 1 shiv and if yes do i shiv kingsbane or do i kingsbane and use shiv for the last 8 secs of kingsbane

[floral solstice]

But which one is the best dmg wise, is it orc ?

[spice spire]

Shiv > kb > shiv last 8s of kb

Thats it in raid

[dusk juniper]

yes but im talking about second deathmark

[spice spire]

Orc good yeah.
The difference in orc and maghar and any other race is sub 1%

[spice spire]

Yeah it should always sync

Legit

[snow quest]

maghar orc undersims a tiny bit I think

[spice spire]

Doesn’t matter

[dusk juniper]

so i safe shiv to get 2 shivs for second deathmark?

[spice spire]

You don’t shiv outside kb

[midnight mist]

the one at the top of the sim is the best yes

[spice spire]

You should always have 2 shivs for kb, dm or not in raid

[dusk juniper]

oh good to know

[quasi zealot]

Algun español para enseñarme un poco?

[dusk juniper]

i always shived outside of it for the dmg

but 2 shivs in kingsbane is better that makes sense

[spice spire]

Correct. Always be shiving during kb only.
Only time you wouldn’t is like. A kill timer thing where you’re not getting another kb so you send one raw at the end

[dusk juniper]

does it line perfectly? 2 shivs in deathmark then 2 shivs in kb normally and then 2 shivs again in second deathmark?

[spice spire]

Yes

[brave comet]

when you sim for mythic court, would you sim patchwork for 1 boss or 2, or whatever many number of targets?

[real pike]

You guys sim for particular bosses?

[bronze pike]

Play the race u like

[grim jay]

You always just sim patchwerk

[coral ibex]

there’s nothing to sim for court, there’s no damage check and you often have to literally stop hitting the boss entirely

[grim jay]

Patchwerk 1 target

And just use caustic

[gusty mirage]

you must be my heart, because that's all you keep playing

[grim jay]

Dang, deep

[bronze pike]

Kk I go to sleep again

[gusty mirage]

I miss u(s)

[bronze pike]

Only woke up for a glass of water

I miss u too

https://tenor.com/view/thirsty-cat-lick-glass-glass-of-water-gif-5615102

[spice spire]

@balmy condor big fan of the new video but couldn’t really decipher your thoughts on the tier set

[flint comet]

any ring upgrades this week?

[spice surge]

Its +3/+4 every week yes

[flint comet]

last week i dont know why there was 2 upgrades?

[spice surge]

There wasnt

Its just based on NA reset

[flint comet]

i got mine to 652 a couple days ago tho

[brave comet]

you swapped factions

[flint comet]

no lol

[brave comet]

sure

[flint comet]

anyway, whats the quest this week? anyone know?

[radiant raven]

get the ring to proc 10 times on the island. takes 5 minutes.

[flint comet]

so yeah i did that a couple days ago lol

seems like it bugged and the quest release early

[spice surge]

Aka yesterday

[bright tartan]

Judging by the state of ptr, I think there are 2,5 people that manage stuff. That explains NA reset for ring quest

[flint comet]

aka yesterday at 5pm central europe time, so nowhere near reset

[radiant raven]

Yes, it reset on US reset

So you did it yesterday.

[gusty mirage]

[radiant raven]

Same as it has the previous few weeks in EU - we get it on US reset.

[gusty mirage]

2.5 might be generous tbh

[radiant raven]

I'm really curious how they set this stuff up. Do you think they have a box on every quest for each region's reset? A different quest every region? Just going "Ah fuck it" and not bothering to put time in for every region is very relatable if it's the first one.

Or maybe it's some comical serverside script

[bright tartan]

I think the server code is a 20 year old unholy abomination

[wanton nest]

Is there a catchup mechanic for ring? And how tough is the catchup?

[humble verge]

you do the weekly cache thing

[vestal cliff]

its funny everyone is sad about the mages in the new questline but nobody thinks about the poor rogues in the dalaran sewers #justiceforrogues

[royal lantern]

hey hey hey, they are in a hidden tavern in dornogal

and you get a special interaction with them

as a mage

[vestal cliff]

yes?

[royal lantern]

"allright lets put the guys from the ROGUE class hall in there, and give MAGE a interaction with them!"

certified blizzard moment

the main character needs full attention always

[vestal cliff]

damn XDD

[slim pebble]

Tonight starts queen prog. How annoying is it to keep mark up?

[royal lantern]

eh, be carefull to not put the mark on her when the p1 intermission is about to end

after that you carry it with you the entire fight

and you wont see p1 intermission end on the first day

[slim pebble]

True

[pure moth]

You can skip the quest line on alt. Gives you base ring. Buy gems on main since warbound. As for ilvl you have to do the quest on each toon. It doesn't open up the upgrade on alt when you got it on main

[maiden gale]

guyz do we use supercharger in any mythic+ or is it useless?

[spice surge]

Its fine

You can use it if you want to

[maiden gale]

hmm okei

and sudden demise over twist the knife?

[spice surge]

Theres a ton of different options that are all fine and roughly equal

Thats one of them yes

[deep gyro]

^

[wanton nest]

Can you catch up in ilvl through the quest?

Also ty!

[halcyon saddle]

Hey. I'm planning on swapping to rogue next tier. Would anyone be open to sending me a M+ run. I want to look at the casts and get a better understanding of the rotation. Really appreciate it.

I see logs for m+

sorry

[pure moth]

Once u do first ilvl quest the next opens so you can do them back to back

[agile wedge]

is there somewhere a distributionstatistic between which race get picked most by what class? iam curious

[slim pebble]

Wowhead has something at the bottom of class guides

[maiden gale]

yeap indeed

[agile wedge]

oh ty will have a look

never seen it, ty again

[midnight mist]

Is that rogue

[agile wedge]

yeah

[dawn seal]

I have a SİM vault gear

question

I am clueless

😭

[royal lantern]

tbf

everything will be human/blood elf/night elf

except maybe druid lol

[spice spire]

Night elf

[royal lantern]

ye, but some troll/tauren aswell

cus horde

and its a class that cant be human/blood elf

[dawn seal]

@spice spire can u hlpe me out

[royal lantern]

and people gotta play their generic AF elves always

[spice spire]

With what

How can I help

[agile wedge]

iam dwarf. which is kinda meh, orc feels wrong, dont wanna be a shitty elv... iam stuck 😄

[spice spire]

Stay mad bozo my rogue is the hottest mf you know

[dawn seal]

I got these 2 on my vault as mythic

[maiden gale]

elves are not shitty 😮

[dawn seal]

do I sim their max upgrades

like on 639

[spice spire]

Yes

[dawn seal]

okay they are both upgrades

[spice spire]

Because that’s what you’ll do eh

[dawn seal]

but

[spice spire]

Yeah sick.

[dawn seal]

do I choose tier or boots

cuz tier is easier to get

🤔

[spice spire]

So like there’s a school of thought here. Yeah

I can’t make that decision for you

But I’d take boots

[dawn seal]

I was thinkin bout that one

ty

[spice spire]

Any time

[royal lantern]

mate, play w/e you want

[royal lantern]

yeha sure

you want some chocolate icecream, or is that to exotic for you

[spice spire]

Buddy I’m gonna show you exotic with ur dracthyr looking ass

[agile wedge]

but i dont find something i like 😄 thats the problem

[fervent nest]

does anyone know if we have to do the 8 weekly keys to get 6 Token of merit or only one is enough ? or maybe hc raid

[spice spire]

You need 3 slots

Doesn’t matter where they are

[lavish arrow]

All u fotm simps playing different races for minmax, the true chads play undead

[spice spire]

If you get 3 slots you get 6 tokens

1 - 2, 2 - 4

[fervent nest]

whatever level or 10+ / mm raid ?

[spice spire]

Okay unc let’s get you to bed

[spice spire]

Whatever level

[fervent nest]

Thanks 🙂

[spice spire]

[keen umbra]

Can anyone explain to me why the top chinese guys cast Deathmark and Kingsbane seperate from each other on the first charge from Anubarash at Silken Court mythic?

[minor gate]

timing

anubarash takes extra damage after the charge

[keen umbra]

i know. they deathmark when he burrows. and kingsbane after beeing entangled
but deathmark doesnt overlap

[minor gate]

oh

i read question wrong

[past marten]

Lingering Darkness maybe?

[spice surge]

To do more damage to the beetles

[minor gate]

ah

[spice surge]

Aka completely pointless

[minor gate]

caustic

[keen umbra]

so its just damage padding?

[minor gate]

well they need to die

and they risk losing damage in ST

[spice spire]

Yeah if you look at the log itself

[keen umbra]

okay if its just for add damage i understand. i just thought maybe theyre cooking some secret strategy

[spice spire]

They kill the boss 12 times that night

So they’re just parse running it

[agile wedge]

how do you kill a mythic boss 12 times? what did i miss 😄

[spice spire]

Alts

[agile wedge]

wait, they have 12 alts to do parsingruns in one night?

whats happening

[past marten]

important selection on WCL

[keen umbra]

alright tyty for the help guys

[royal lantern]

thats why you dont look at top logs

or chinese logs

its only degen stuff

[past marten]

even the US/EU ones contain pad, but the Chinese logs are really sth else

[royal lantern]

or bug abusing

[spice spire]

It was not the top log

[keen umbra]

yeah, i was watching on lorrgs, and i dont think there is a button for region filtering

[past marten]

seems like lorrgs doesn't support that feature (yet)

[spice spire]

I thought it was the same group

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/vJP1b2Y6nGyXhwQK?fight=101&type=damage-done

But yeah

[past marten]

Not even that crazy, they get 58k dps from CS on the adds

[spice spire]

That’s not the same one

[past marten]

Just had a look at the one you posted

[spice spire]

Yeah that’s not the jank log

That’s just a parse log from a random guild

Even the other log

It’s like 78k dps

[past marten]

Still has an early DM

99 parse and he only used DM 3 times

in 7:13

[spice spire]

Cev is right nothing matters

[fallow canopy]

He must have a crazy mousepad and gaming chair we just can't compete

[past marten]

No gaming chair can hold their sweat

I really wonder if the Lingering Darkness angle has some merit there

30% increased nature damage during amp?

but then energy starved because no DM, no clue - I probably read too much into this 😄

[keen umbra]

deathmark is a bigger damage amp then lingering darkness, no?

its just the one global more

[simple garden]

Could someone tell me why in the first boss of NW, when he targets you to get into the area that adds come out, why are there times when he does damage/oneshot or doesn't take away any of your life?

There are times when, with feint, it makes me 100-0 and other times it does absolutely nothing for me.

[dapper cradle]

What cooldown are you using besides feint for that frontal?

!nw

[prisma monolith]

The breath/frontal from the first boss in Necrotic Wake is an attack, not a spell.

In order to immune the the breath, you must be in the first second of cloak of shadows (“a moment of magic immunity”). After the first second of cloak of shadows has elapsed, the attack will hit you and no longer be immuned.
Alternatively you can use evasion to dodge the breath.

[spice surge]

If you dodge it you take no damage

[simple garden]

but, even with the feint or with my sham that gave me the 40-% damage reduction, it oneshots me. with CD reduction up. idk

[fresh kelp]

It hits extremely hard but there are a variety of ways to take 0 dmg

Evasion, cloak first second, paladin sac

[dapper cradle]

Yee at higher keystones you’re going to want to save cloak and evasion

[fresh kelp]

Probably the last one is what you’re noticing if it’s on shaman too

[golden loom]

do we have passive dodge chance in retail or is everything from evasion?

thinking if u can just luck out and dodge it

[fresh kelp]

you def do as nelf

[dapper cradle]

I don’t think it’s like classic, where we get more passive dodge from agi

It’s all evasion

[spice surge]

We have passive dodge yes

[golden loom]

guess nelf can cook

[dapper cradle]

What % do rogues get passively?

Honestly wasn’t even aware haha

[golden loom]

idk stat page is not making me any smarter either

[spice surge]

Like 15% or so

[dapper cradle]

Oh damn

Well that’s tight I guess

17% extra dodge for nelf rogues

[spice surge]

But ye, first second of cloak, evasion, passive dodge and paladin sac all make you take 0 damage from it

[spice surge]

Double checked and it seems i have 12.7% dodge right now

So slightly less than 15% ig

[dapper cradle]

That’s still kinda giga

Thanks for checking

[dawn seal]

is there a command to check talents

[robust juniper]

What you mean by check talents? If they were picked?

[jade abyss]

i know its not a shaman discord but it helps against roots from cot endboss?

[jaunty sky]

[spice spire]

Love the Paladin sac

[runic hinge]

You love any sack

[spice spire]

Mf why you always projecting on me, you’re lucky you own the sickest bird in the world, otherwise I’d dunk on ur bum ass more. B tier lookin ass, jealousy is a disease get well soon bozo xoxo

[dapper cradle]

so pumped for s2

assa tier is pog

[cerulean burrow]

I dont know what to pick

I already have this equipped

[dapper cradle]

sim that shit king

crystal looks like it's myth track, and the other one isn't

[cerulean burrow]

yes

correct

[spice spire]

Yeah that’s not a hard call then

[cerulean burrow]

empowering crystal ?

[spice spire]

Mythic crystal pog for m+

[dapper cradle]

crystal can be good in certain situations for outlaw and sub

since contract clones can't hit bloodbound horror

[cerulean burrow]

hmm yeah i guess ill have to sim if i woudl switch out my egg for it or my skynards whatever it is

[dapper cradle]

you prolly wouldn't switch out skardyn's

that's locked in

[cerulean burrow]

its a champion one

[dapper cradle]

in AOE maybe crystal would get ahead of egg

[cerulean burrow]

my egg is hero

[dapper cradle]

oh yeah then crystal gg

[cerulean burrow]

ye

[dapper cradle]

even champ track skardyn's could come out ahead I'd be willing to bet

[cerulean burrow]

yeah

[dapper cradle]

since it's so good with deathmark

[analog field]

Guys one question cause i am not very familiar yet with the process. I opened the vault today and i had the kareshi chest but in heroic version is there a way to take it more than 606 ilvl ? or i should have a picked a mythic item rather than a heroic ?

[midnight mist]

You can upgrade heroic items to 626 Ilvl

Mythic goes to 639

[runic hinge]

that's a lot of words, i aint readin em

[analog field]

I took it to lvl 606 but when i try to talk to cuzolth and upgrade it it says item cannot be upgraded

[midnight mist]

606 is champion track i think

[sharp viper]

sounds like you got a veteran track item from doing a mythic dungeon

[midnight mist]

or is that veteran

one of these

[analog field]

ah it says heroic and under that veteran

[sharp viper]

!upgrade

moroes dead or is that wrong command

[analog field]

so i should have picked mythic item from vault instead of the veteran tier chest?

[midnight mist]

ye for sure

[sharp viper]

the ilvl and upgrade track of the rewards in your vault are dependent on the difficulty of content you are doing - mythic raid and mythic +10 dungeons reward myth track items *in the vault

[midnight mist]

https://wago.io/3B88WRJLx here get this weak aura

add these to tooltips

[radiant raven]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[analog field]

ok i thought that the tier set bonus might be more value than ilvl but i guess its not ?

[radiant raven]

🫡

[midnight mist]

by now you should be able to catalyst

about 10 pieces

or so

[gusty mirage]

I'll catalyze you buddy

[midnight mist]

catalyst is here

[analog field]

i have read about it , not tried it yet. Ok thank you

[midnight mist]

?

6th one i think now

surely this thing is bugged

[final star]

I got one before I went on holiday

[midnight mist]

bro

legit 60% of my vaults

had a skardyn

I passed on 2 of them before taking my first

cause i wasnt playing assa

[radiant raven]

It really likes giving me them, too.

It's got a sense. All Skardyns when you aren't playing Assa.

[midnight mist]

i think it got increased drop rate in the vault

there is no way

[radiant raven]

The second you swap to Assa? no more Skardyns. Deleted from the loot pool.

Gotta trick it.

[cyan trellis]

Is that an addon for profession icons to show on your map?

[hearty reef]

catalyst is here:

The Catalyst

[midnight mist]

handynote prolly

ye

[sharp viper]

i got that trinket like 4 times in the vault, first time I picked it but afterwards it was just blocking my vault

[wanton ridge]

are the set bonus on ptr bugged?

it seems like the 2 set doesnt proc

[subtle tundra]

😔

[pure moth]

Check pins

[fallow canopy]

I settled for a transmitter and look like a coked out rabbit on every burst

[pliant remnant]

[tawny rapids]

@balmy condor checked into the stream late last night and couldn’t stay too long,wondering did you put your thoughts anywhere or will there be a YouTube upload ?

🤝🤝

[spice spire]

Already is one

[humble verge]

can you guys not

[nova aspen]

if u havent gotten a grace by now ur never getting one

[rotund oak]

dont expect anything,be free

😉

[limber lion]

This is the first thing I see when I open up discord

Good morning

I like how Discord just opens up in the most random spots whenever you open the app

Also funny that I woke up at 5 am 2 days ago and today I woke up at 7pm

[spice spire]

Okay but based

[limber lion]

You're the based one

[spice spire]

Based on what

[limber lion]

dn

[spice spire]

What’s dn?

[royal lantern]

darkest night

[spice spire]

I am absolutely not based on that dogshit design

Eh maybe

[raven vapor]

just starting Ansurek prog, am i better off with a 626 Spyglass over 639 egg due to movement?

[plucky dock]

Hello! Should i use highest ilvl dagger in main hand and crafted weap (with ascension) in off hand or the other way around?

[spice spire]

Highest in MH

[plucky dock]

Awesome, thank you! 😄

[cloud basin]

Yes

Egg sucks lol. I fell into it's trap cuz it Sims "better " but in reality it doesn't cuz it assumes perfect play with it

[subtle tundra]

wheres whispyr to tell you

that its still good if you play it badly

[bright tartan]

🥚

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/egg-dog-gif-23314407

[fallow canopy]

and the end of the day the difference between the 2 won't really matter so play whichever you like ig

[novel star]

really really bad egg play is only like -0.7

%

over optimal

iirc

so like meh it’s almost certainly just better bcz ilvl

[novel star]

no whispyr so i have to fill in with his numbers

[runic hinge]

it doesnt assume perfect play

[karmic stream]

Anyone know if you can cloak the ansurek ring while holding an essence or will it still blow up then?

[limber lion]

Shadowstep

[novel star]

cloak doesn’t beat the ring regardless

but i believe you can cloak without dropping the essence yea

[karmic stream]

ah ofc i knew that

[novel star]

shit mechanic happens

have to step it

or velf it if ur based

[karmic stream]

yh step is what ive seen. Aint no elf stuff here

[royal lantern]

you can just shadowstep

like

idk

[royal lantern]

"elf" and "based" in the same sentence

[gusty mirage]

okay bud

[novel star]

velf is literally based

[gusty mirage]

worgen playin' ass

[novel star]

the most based race in the game

[royal lantern]

mfs play human but with pointy ears and think its the most unique and coolest shit ever

atleast human players know they are boring

[novel star]

never said unique

just based

panda rogue is unique but no velf racial is just -dopamine so i cant go back

[spice surge]

Too much simdps loss to be panda

But im popping recallibrators and masks on cd

So its playable

[novel star]

TRUE!

as fuck

[royal lantern]

tbh, i only hate elves cus 99% of the time its just "humans but BETTER!!!!" in fantasy, and that they are always just used for "we are unique cus its a elf and not a boring human!!!" when they do literally the same shit

[fallow canopy]

[royal lantern]

human/elf bias in fantasy is just kinda annoying cus its always the same thing on repeat

oh look, humans are the YOUNG RACE that are the underdogs and at the same time more widespread then everything else and learn everything really quick and are better then everyone else at everything cus THEY ARE ADAPTIVE!!!!!

all marks of a underdog afterall

[novel star]

i just don’t care really i like void elf because they’re purple twinks that get to teleport

[gusty mirage]

@feral mason is a twink

[novel star]

[feral mason]

what

[novel star]

you’re a twink

🫵

[subtle tundra]

hi

[royal lantern]

no varas, you are a kitten

[empty hinge]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[oblique wasp]

guys I wanted to thank you all, last Sunday/this Monday you all helped me with my error in rotation and now I trained, today went to raid, and I am so back on the menu boys ❤️ I have re-earned my manhood ❤️

[rotund oak]

Dont take this personally but Manhood is way more than a game or earning 1st place on details.

[coral ibex]

yea manhood is about having the funniest details name

[cerulean burrow]

hey what is the best build for mythic + on tyranial week ?

[coral ibex]

no change

[cerulean burrow]

tyranical*

[coral ibex]

it’s always tyr week in weekly keys

[rotund oak]

but but casualdaddy plays FI

[coral ibex]

so the same build you would use

[cerulean burrow]

uh

[rotund oak]

and yes above +10 both fort and tyr are present

[cerulean burrow]

tyranical only applies to bosses at 10 and above ?

[rotund oak]

..

its not that

[cerulean burrow]

I did now know that

[rotund oak]

no matter the weekly rotation

[cerulean burrow]

I may be a bit confused

[rotund oak]

if u do 10++ keys

both fort and tyr are present

every week

[coral ibex]

fortified and tyrannical are both always on in keys 10 and up

the only change is the xalatath affix

[cerulean burrow]

so we just use 1 build then for everything ?

in keys ?

[rotund oak]

there are small nodes here and there depended the key

[royal lantern]

you never changed shit based on weeks lol

[rotund oak]

but its rly nothing special

[royal lantern]

tyranical week back in the days just meant "you pull bigger"

aka more aoe

[cerulean burrow]

so this is correct?

[rotund oak]

u can visit the wowhead guide and check minor differencies if there are any

[cerulean burrow]

yeah but dont we want to do more single target on tyranical weeks? or based off what you say tyranial and fortified are always on a 10+ and above ... so idk im just confused but whatever you say lol

I have i was still sort of confused i guess

[rotund oak]

but it looks fine

[cerulean burrow]

ill just run with this

[rotund oak]

yup whatever u do just dont open the browser and search the wowhead guide

just incase its wrong

u dont need that

[royal lantern]

mate, you never went "more ST for tyranicall"

that was never a thing in the past

and isnt now where it doesnt exist anymore

70% of a dungeon is spend doing aoe stuff

[cerulean burrow]

ok

got it

i understand

ill jsut do big aoe lol

[royal lantern]

• assa does bad ST in dungeons anyway

if you want ST dmg in keys, the answer is "play Shaman" rn

[cerulean burrow]

yeah ill just stay assa and do big aoe damage and decent single target

[oblique wasp]

I didn't mean it in wrong way, sorry 🙂

[rotund oak]

nothing to be sorry my man

[oblique wasp]

I was thinking that I am too old for playing rogue, but today I see I still have it in me 😄 still much to learn before funny details names 😄

[oblique wasp]

I was just maybe overly happy that I managed to improve

[spice spire]

Proud of you king

[spice spire]

You changed

[lone plover]

is there any streamer that play rogue in ptr?

[spice spire]

Whispyr does

Or did

[slate crown]

Whispyr tests stuff when there's stuff to test

it's not really "play"ing like let's go play M+ for people to watch

[lone plover]

hmm ok how is rogue? next season heard outlaw gonna be best pick

[slate crown]

Where'd you hear that?

If anyone has an opinion to offer about how good a class/spec is going to be relative to each other at this time in the patch cycle they're talking out of their ass

[spice spire]

It was me, mb.

[slate crown]

Don't lie to me you just want attention (And you deserve every bit of it king)

[viral spire]

I mean, they can talk about the current state of PTR no?

[spice spire]

Nah I’m just trying to get yelled at, don’t shake me

[spice spire]

I wouldn’t. Half the things don’t work

So like

[slate crown]

I specifically said "about how they are going to be relative to each other"

[golden loom]

Current state is giga bugged no?

[spice spire]

If you’re speaking about right at this moment

[viral spire]

fair lol

[runic hinge]

[slate crown]

Like

I typed words

for reasons

[spice spire]

And using that to make decisions

Literal crackhead

Oh

[viral spire]

because if the tier for sin stays as is its looking pretty worrying

[runic hinge]

I mean

[lone plover]

sin is braindeath

[runic hinge]

It’s definitely not gonna self delete lol

[spice spire]

What was the reason

[lone plover]

outlaw is the way to go

😄

[runic hinge]

That’s definitely not intended

[slate crown]

For you to respond to me (it worked)

[golden loom]

I heard demonology warlock is gonna be 15% better than the next best dps next patch (guldan is a voice in my head and he is very loud)

[runic hinge]

I heard it’s spriest

Xal’atath told me

[golden loom]

That would be the tier where she is final boss to be fair

You kill her with her own legion artifact play legion classic now!!!!

[runic hinge]

She already whispers to me all the time

[viral spire]

I mean - sin tier set basically can't stack because dots prevent you stacking / sub has no 90s stat trinket / year of the gun? year of the pirat? year of PLUNDER

https://tenor.com/view/capitan-jack-the-sparrow-pirates-of-the-caribbean-curse-of-the-black-pearl-gif-20982012

[slate crown]

I don't go in that channel

[viral spire]

they definitely will do something about sin tier tho

[slate crown]

is the outlaw set not as bugged?

I don't even know what it does

[spice spire]

Ours is omega dogshit

[slate crown]

oh yeah

[spice spire]

So I’d assume not

As bad

[runic hinge]

I mean it’s clearly just bugged.

[slate crown]

It's still just hard to see

[lone plover]

S2 gonna be pirates of the carribean boyzzzzzzzzz

[golden loom]

Sub one looks great so surely they cant be that bad

[runic hinge]

Okay go enjoy that channel and leave us alone

[spice spire]

I played Assassination in 9.0

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-not-leaving-not-fucking-leaving-staying-gif-20904116

[runic hinge]

I played feral then

[viral spire]

thing is you have 0.75 GCD on outlaw so if you are sending dispatch every GCD you have a coefficient of 1.33 x chance of losing stacks

sin is

you have garrote ticks + rupture ticks + you envenom on GCD

[slate crown]

I just don't even know how much we can trust the idea that things will be fixed

[spice spire]

Assassination was uh.
60% worse than boomkin on launch of shadow panda

[viral spire]

thats like three times as likely to lose stacks

[spice spire]

We cannot

[slate crown]

Given how many bugs came out of TWW launch in that state

like

[runic hinge]

I doubt it’s meant for you to lose it on ticks bruh

[slate crown]

So many things we were like early on in beta/ptr

"Oh this'll get fixed"

"any day now"

[runic hinge]

Wow are you dooming

[spice spire]

Honestly

[slate crown]

Eh kind of?

[spice spire]

I’m with her here

Traditionally not a doomer

[slate crown]

I'm not leaving

[spice spire]

But they’re very clearly pushing

[slate crown]

But I am unhappy with the state of things

[golden loom]

Tbh I have faith in them fixing everything, gotta get people to play the goblin patch

[spice spire]

Far more than their capabilities are

🤝

[viral spire]

[golden loom]

Either way I am gonna be drifting around in my car 24/7

[spice spire]

Old meme

[slate crown]

It also doesn't affect me that much compared to others

[viral spire]

yeah its a cycle...

[slate crown]

So eh whatever personally but

[spice spire]

Mf in a goblin patch this is literally the patch for you big dog

[viral spire]

can literally slap what we are discussing here and it would still hold true

[slate crown]

I like being in this channel and discord when the players are happy (don't ask me when that last was)

And when they aren't happy

it's sad

[versed mica]

The cycle of life CAN be cruel

[spice spire]

It was when I was CF

[runic hinge]

I’m happy I finished sepelcure mythic transmog before work today

[spice spire]

Damn

[viral spire]

nooo

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-jumping-cat-excited-excited-dance-gif-19354605

[golden loom]

Oh yeah biggest plus about goblin patch ive seen so far is all the transmog, they giga cooked on that

[slate crown]

I'll still have something to do

there'll still be WAs to write, addons to make, gold line to make go up

[spice spire]

Yeah like tanking keys

Login LE

[slate crown]

Oh damn maybe

[golden loom]

The happiest place on this discord was the transmog channel when everything got datamined

[spice spire]

Gonna make doz be a MW kitten

[slate crown]

my dk has a key for u

[spice spire]

Hell yeah I got you homie

I’ll dm when I get on tn

[slate crown]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1292477218462634115/vlc_2024-10-06_08-22-07.gif

[jaunty venture]

has anyone's game just randomly deleted all of their weakauras?

[slate crown]

did you import a bad wa?

did you update the addon?

if you do /wa does the game do anything?

[rotund oak]

its just an update

[jaunty venture]

it does

all of them are gone. i didn't import anything. just logged on and they're all gone

[past marten]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[slate crown]

You should go to the WA discord and ask then

[balmy condor]

Hi idk why discord opened me up 50 minutes behind but what the hell are you talking about?

If anything the sin tier set is better currently because of the bug because you proc your 4 piece way more

Also there is a 90 second stat trinket

[dapper cradle]

the secondary stat one from delves or w/e?

[drifting cedar]

Why i can't ambush on queen pull sometimes bros

[balmy condor]

Gives crit or haste

It’s got the full stat budget of a 2 min trinket

[spice surge]

Its 15s while the 2 min one is 20

[dapper cradle]

aren't those two stats kinda dooodoo caca for sub?

[balmy condor]

Probably cause you’re slow as shit and get knocked out of stealth by the passive ticks

[drifting cedar]

Not probably but surely 😅 ty

[spice spire]

Man woke up hating

[balmy condor]

Transmitter has haste on it and it loses a ton of value in aoe for us because of it

[spice spire]

Hell yeah

[balmy condor]

It’s insanely good for sub though

Cause ya know

90 sec

[dapper cradle]

interesting

will be cool to see if they adjust transmitter going into the new season haha

[golden loom]

Just gonna be ilvl diffed

[dapper cradle]

eleem linked a sim at spoint where a 639 transmitter simmed higher than like a 670ish skardyns

[viral spire]

but you play with no 2p bonus no?

[subtle tundra]

yes cause 1.5 min

[dapper cradle]

what's the new 1.5 min trinket called?

[balmy condor]

Well yeh it’s getting eaten constantly

[viral spire]

when I first read the tier set bonuses I had thought if this is being consumed by dots we are so cooked

then you confirmed it

[balmy condor]

It’s better this way

Like it’s deranged and awful design

But numerically this is stronger

[viral spire]

in that case its okay? idk feels weird

[golden loom]

The big win is right around the corner every dot tick

[viral spire]

also current patch, siren isle trinkets worth anything?

[spice spire]

You literally cannot stop gambling

W

[balmy condor]

Depends what trinkets you have now

[golden loom]

In real life lore accurate design W

[viral spire]

well I got all the raid trinkets currently using madate skardyn but saw some cooked stuff like when you use DM it gives you big crit etc

and couldn't find droptimizer of siren isle stuff so

[spice surge]

You can just add it with topgear

But yes that trinket is fine, typically not better than 639 options though

[balmy condor]

Pulling the lever on every winning streak in order to buff the proc on 4 piece from once every 2.5 minutes to once every 30 seconds

[viral spire]

yeah but I have to go over every single trinket from siren isle and I have to browse wowhead and wowhead doesn't allow me to browse it without vpn and I'm a lazy fuq

[balmy condor]

What

[golden loom]

I just have the one that randomly strikes down lightning on my transmog farm DH cause its funny

[balmy condor]

You just type “wayward vrykul” into raid bots and sim it

Gg

[golden loom]

Otherwise arent all the isle trinkets like veteran or champion track so kinda cookdd

[viral spire]

but is that the only trinket

we have instances of champion shit being stronger than myth tho no?

[balmy condor]

Yes it’s the only thing remotely decent

[balmy condor]

No

[mint valve]

whats teh catch up mechanic to upgrade your ring?

[spice surge]

Hit mobs

Or well, rares/events

[subtle tundra]

profit

[golden loom]

What skardyns do you have? Surely you would never replace a hero or myth track one with a champ track vrykul lantern

[balmy condor]

You’d run both

[golden loom]

Oh wait I am dumb

[runic hinge]

Lantern is passive on cd use so

[golden loom]

Just re-read it, its not an active

[balmy condor]

All good, seen a lot of dumb so far only been up like 30 min

[runic hinge]

We can get dumber

[golden loom]

I am up 30 min past my bedtime so I am on dumb behavior

[lyric nebula]

yoo everyone, does someone know iwhere to get some s2 itemlevel dagger in ptr for assa?:)

[spice surge]

You dont need it

Your gear scales when you enter any content anyway

[lyric nebula]

ahh, didnt know that. So when raiding in ptr, old geasr is gonan sclae up as well?:) Thanks for anwering btw

[spice surge]

Ye

[thorn thorn]

Is this a summary of your review video

[balmy condor]

The info in the pin is the same as the info in the video

[thorn thorn]

Surely it gets changed

[balmy condor]

I try to avoid forcing people to watch videos if they don’t want to

It’s an option for people who want to see it and don’t wanna read

But info should always be the same

But yeah the bleed ticking has got to be changed

[thorn thorn]

So many of the tiers are

[real pike]

yo guys are we using fok to proc clear the witnesses in ST or just ignoring it and muti?

[pliant remnant]

You do FoK if you have CtW, yes

[real pike]

cool thanks

[wanton nest]

whats the ring ilvl supposed to be this week

[spice spire]

652

[wanton nest]

tyty

[glass socket]

does the duplicated damage from sanguine blades give us energy?

[spice spire]

No

[subtle tundra]

the whole point of the talent is to remove energy

[runic hinge]

I don’t even have enough energy to remove

[spice spire]

Then sb doing nothing get woke

[winter vapor]

how much does egg over sim? Dslice specifically

[runic hinge]

It does not

Unless you mean if you play it as bad as possible then it’s -.7 but if you keep the stacks 20/10 either way it’s good

[crystal bay]

Hi everyone, sorry for the generic question but do you guys think assa will remain being the "meta" rogue spec for season 2? cuz I was reading the tier set and it kinda seems lacklsuter imo

[spice spire]

🔮

Patch on PTR is buggy and needs a lot

Nothing should lend itself to a decision any time soon

Until a lot is cleaned up

[tough lichen]

hey all sorry what's best sim setup for m+ in terms of what to select on raidbots?

[spice spire]

Dungeon slice is more than fine

[midnight mist]

you are more than fine

[spice spire]

False bestie

[midnight mist]

yes

[runic hinge]

Hey Zac which spec is gonna be meta

[main bay]

Coming back DF, wondering if anyone knows where I can get maybe a log review done to help me figure out where to improve?

[spice spire]

Meta this meta that how about you meta hoe

Just rawdog it

I’ll get to it when I can or someone else will do it before me

[midnight mist]

outlaw for sure

[runic hinge]

I’m praying for that for you

[midnight mist]

outlaw is always better

[runic hinge]

Not in raid tho I don’t wanna play OL in raid

[midnight mist]

Im praying for assa downfall

[novel star]

cope

[humble verge]

same, i wanna play sub

[novel star]

useless spec

[jaunty sky]

https://wheelofnames.com/ct8-nq8

[golden loom]

I was looking at zacs +15 key vids on outlaw and it makes my head spin

[midnight mist]

woa taht was a long time ago

[golden loom]

The cat dancing in corner covering the chat is the only thing I understand

[midnight mist]

xd

[bold obsidian]

Hey kind rogue folks - just starting to get into keys with my rogue - Which abilities function as my main defensives for mechanics outside of Cloak of Shadows? I noticed majority of the guides cover rotation/damage concerns but rarely touch on when/how defensives should be deployed.

Also - what can I use as a Assa rogue with this weeks affix? (Interrupt 10 spawned orbs)

[golden loom]

Feint and evasion, for the orb interupt you can AoE blind, use it on a mob however

And not on the orbs themselves

[bold obsidian]

Ok so that's what I was doing wrong with the blind - I guess it doesn't spread off the orbs; is that a bug or a feature?

[jaunty sky]

yes

[golden loom]

Blizzard TM feature

[silent drift]

Dumb question, but is it crit hit that determines whether or not you get more thatn 2 cp from mutilate?

[golden loom]

But it probably doesnt work cause blind "kills" the orb before it can spread? Idk

[spice spire]

Don’t you ever sass my French goat again (froat for short) or I’ll kiss you on the lips

[bold obsidian]

So if the orbs spawn outside of a pack pull - I'm basically SOL unless I burn a kick/kidney and/or vanish for aoe garrote right?

[golden loom]

Yeah have the better classes in ur group deal with them

[bold obsidian]

Cool - thanks!

Sounds like I was on the right track except the blind thing.

[midnight mist]

is this thing bugged

i rolled 4 times

and got outlaw 4 times

[golden loom]

You would never vanish for it atleast, thats a dps cooldown 😎

[subtle tundra]

Same

But that's just cause I'm tired of stupids

[spice spire]

Same

[midnight mist]

varas

[spice spire]

Amen varas

[midnight mist]

I appreciate you

but

im so over it

[subtle tundra]

Erg

[midnight mist]

assa is such a frustrating spec to play to me

[subtle tundra]

What the sigma

[spice spire]

Just need chat to be the same 6 people homo posting

[midnight mist]

i dont like how constrained it is

[subtle tundra]

😼

[spice spire]

In single target?

[midnight mist]

cds being debuffs

so you cant target swap

[subtle tundra]

And I hate spatter and ic

[midnight mist]

if your target dies you want to off yourself

restealths

[subtle tundra]

The version I liked didn't have an aoe cd

[midnight mist]

deathstlaker minigame

idk

[subtle tundra]

Vendetta was pure st

[midnight mist]

having to maintain 5 rupture, but then ic is rng and send rupture on random targets

and if it sends all the rupture

on smallies

its gg

vs on big

idk so many things that are frustrating

[spice spire]

Skill issue at that point tbh

[subtle tundra]

Yes that's fair

You're right

Revert assa

[jaunty sky]

gamba season gamba meta idk what to tell u

[runic hinge]

Deathstalker makes me wanna reroll

[spice spire]

Ic 45s cd

[jaunty sky]

@midnight mistjust play sub

[dapper cradle]

Outlaw season next patch

[subtle tundra]

Or make dots do damage

I'll fotm reroll idk

[spice spire]

Tbh I’m more on the dots do damage train

[midnight mist]

i mean is it

[spice spire]

Yeah

[midnight mist]

how

[spice spire]

Just hit the right targets

Hello

[midnight mist]

ye but ic cleave

to 2 random

targets

i cant chose that

[runic hinge]

CT does damage

[spice spire]

If I ic I hit the bigs every time

But I’m different ig

[golden loom]

Mouseover rupture a target u want to hit

So atleast u have some choice

[midnight mist]

ye im talking about the 2 additionals omegalul

[spice spire]

Yeah me too

[subtle tundra]

I'll touch you

[runic hinge]

Okay!

[spice spire]

I’m just constructed in a different manner I guess

Zac idk if I’m mentally gapping you

But I’m fucking w you

[dapper cradle]

Built: different
Needs: special

[midnight mist]

i dont have time to press rupture 5 times in a 20 target pack to spread ruptures on the biggies

[subtle tundra]

I rewind time until game does correct rupture targeting

[midnight mist]

when optimally i need to cd as fast as possible

and so i can only send 2/3 rupt

and then its just rng

and i hate it

and i hate mouseovering plates because

plates are bad in this game

like very bad

example

first pack of nw

the vanguards

are all at the top of myu screen

always

i cant even see them

and you dont know if a plate is in front of you are not, you never know

if its in range

[golden loom]

Just mouseover the mob instead of nameplate

[midnight mist]

mosueovering plates, is bad

in wow

especially for melees

game just not made for it

[slate crown]

Mouseover plates is great except for the times when it's not

[midnight mist]

its legit terrible idk

[subtle tundra]

I'll never

[midnight mist]

but dont get me wrong

[spice spire]

Sage words ty lisonna!

[midnight mist]

outlaw has also frustrating parts

like downtime and lows are horrible to play

but i can get over it

[spice spire]

And yet you’re here

Curious!

[midnight mist]

ye

[runic hinge]

He’s in love with you quake

[midnight mist]

also i think i suck as assa

I need a coaching vara

tell me how to bleed

[spice spire]

I don’t think Zac knows two things about me big dog I’m gonna keep it a buck

[jaunty sky]

You could just go through the dungeons and assign plate sizes for all mob types

[midnight mist]

except

[spice spire]

[midnight mist]

you cant

do that in wow

the actual plate size isnt changeable

its all fake

[jaunty sky]

Plater doesn't have that?

[midnight mist]

wow doesnt have taht

[subtle tundra]

Be a woman

[midnight mist]

the plate hitbox stays the same

so its still take as much space in your screen, just with blank space around

[jaunty sky]

Damn that sucks

[midnight mist]

blank space that cant be filled by other plates

ye it does

[crystal igloo]

Dear Blizzard,

Please add a ranged rogue spec that uses throwing stars.

Thank you,
Night Lord Enjoyer

[jaunty sky]

Small indie game i guess

[midnight mist]

you also cant chose to reorder plates the way you would want

or stuffs like that

[spice spire]

Well aware of this one

Love finding the big guys plate among all the small guys in grimba

[midnight mist]

idk when i started playing assa i tried a bunch of things to "fix" my plates

and i just slowly realized i coudlnt

cause blizzard

and it makes me sad

[slate crown]

https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Console_variables

ctrl+f that page on nameplate there's a bunch of things you can change, plater exposes many (but not all) of these

[midnight mist]

ye i eman