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dawn seal
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whispyr

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can I ask something

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u are so knowledgeful person

balmy condor
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terrifying start

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go for it

dawn seal
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are u familiar with weak aura profiling thing

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for performance

balmy condor
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yes

dawn seal
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I have done it but

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I have bunch of high ms things on systems tab

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๐Ÿค” whats the systems

balmy condor
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the systems are the functions being called by the auras

dawn seal
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oh

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so its weak auras

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not something wrong about the game

balmy condor
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generictrigger COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED for example is the thing that gets checked when a weakaura has to read the combat log for its information

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well yeah ofc its weakauras

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it's weakaura profiling

dawn seal
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oh

balmy condor
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weakauras can't just randomly profile things it has no control over

dawn seal
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oh

balmy condor
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so seems like your soul shard and wild imp tracker is using a fair bit of resources

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and in terms of the actual triggers that are using resources, it's buff trigger 2, cd tracking which is in-built whenever you track a cooldown

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then SPELL_COOLDOWN_CHANGED

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which is also just baseline shit

thorn thorn
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I dont think anyone is happy about the tier sets fwiw

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All of the articles I have seen have been some bitter sweet "interesting but rng trash"

balmy condor
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and spell update usable, which is just like, gcd swipes and stuff

balmy condor
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winning streak is just an awful mechanic

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and all the tier sets are rushed

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so yeah

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reasonable

thorn thorn
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BDKs real happy about their set bonuses

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A whole extra death strike every 3 minutes

balmy condor
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blizzard not knowing how BDK works

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very normal

thorn thorn
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Blizzard not knowing how BDK works

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All of the set bonuses are rng trash imo

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Garbage mechanic, does not need to be on every tank or healer or dps

dawn seal
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hm

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I have super amount of liquid raid weakauras

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do they have any system stuff

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cuz systems is giga red

storm forum
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Blizzard saw gacha and wanted in on it

dawn seal
balmy condor
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every aura has system stuff

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by definition

dawn seal
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ohh

balmy condor
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without system calls, auras do not function lmao

dawn seal
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ohh

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hm

thorn thorn
storm forum
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If we were in Korea, Blizzard would have an item in the cash shop that makes the rng chance 100%

storm forum
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Ok, mb, they would have an item with a chance to make it 100% or delete ur gear

royal lantern
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you would have a pull system that has multiple ussules things, and the 100% chance is a LEGENDARY DROP that is giga rare but guranteed that you pull it after 200pulls

small rapids
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wont know until ptr any idea if auto attacks will affect the rng with the 2pc?

royal lantern
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learn2gacha

balmy condor
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okay where do I start

storm forum
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I don't think most Korean cash shops have a pity system

balmy condor
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so first off

thorn thorn
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Very goodge

balmy condor
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the proc rate on the 2pc is 10 rppm, so it's gonna trigger regardless of autos working or not

storm forum
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But that is very gacha

small rapids
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im rioting

balmy condor
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secondly, autos are not included in the spell list

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so we already know based off spell data that they don't

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but like auto inclusion has no effect on any proc or uptime on the effect anyway

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so who cares

small rapids
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was asking on the standpoint of autos interactions with poison applications but thanks for the answer

balmy condor
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whats poisons gotta do with it

uneven nymph
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how leveling is going without quests

thorn thorn
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Envenom not being bound is cursed

uneven nymph
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i click

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it

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should i bind it over deathmark?

thorn thorn
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If it works it works ig

uneven nymph
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ill be honest ive abt 10% clue on what to od

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i just press buttons that make big numbers bigger

thorn thorn
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You should check wowhead

uneven nymph
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i was told

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but im gonna assume its like a step by step guide on how to play the spec on rogue

royal lantern
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its more like 95% of everything you need to know

uneven nymph
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oh

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it seems ive playing it wrong if this is the rotation im meant to be following

balmy condor
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that is the opener

uneven nymph
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what

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youre telling me

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ive to hit all of that and more

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

runic hinge
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and more!

balmy condor
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well that's how you open on an enemy if you have all your cooldowns

uneven nymph
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surely fan of knives isnt actually used on single target dps

balmy condor
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it is when you have clear the witnesses

uneven nymph
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so i hit all of the above for the opener

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and i continue with these?

thorn thorn
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Thats for AOE

uneven nymph
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reset on cd|?

balmy condor
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sure yeah

uneven nymph
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so this is all ive to hit

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for single target?

balmy condor
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that is the cooldown sequence yes

uneven nymph
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whats the difference between rampage and cd seq ?

runic hinge
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how much wow have you played?

uneven nymph
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a total

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of

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3-4days

balmy condor
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well if you see the ramping

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it has a handy little arrow

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telling you what to do

uneven nymph
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what is rampaging?

balmy condor
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ramping is the thing you do before your cooldowns

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to get your dots on the target

thorn thorn
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Its almost as if Whispyr made the guide dracthyr_hehe

uneven nymph
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bro im sorry but i dont know what it is

balmy condor
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what what is

uneven nymph
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i start off in stealth, hit garrote, multi, shiv, and than just use cds and reset the rota until boss dead

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rampaging

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i keep dots up

subtle tundra
balmy condor
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rampage is a warrior spell

thorn thorn
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I havent heard it called rampaging before

balmy condor
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but yeah that's wrong

hollow river
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ramping

uneven nymph
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bare with me

balmy condor
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baring

thorn thorn
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Baring

hollow river
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no

uneven nymph
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instead of my own combo

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do i just

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do this?

balmy condor
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after you ramped yes

uneven nymph
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WHAT IS RAMPED

balmy condor
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THE THING YOU LINKED

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YOU HAVE TO APPLY THINGS BEFORE YOUR COOLDOWNS

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READ THE ARROW

uneven nymph
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IT SAYS APPLIES MARK

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MY AMBUSH DOESNT APPLY

hollow river
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you don't get mark until 70

subtle tundra
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CAUSE YOURE LOW LEVEL

uneven nymph
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WHY DIDNT U SAY SO

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stressing me out

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

balmy condor
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I mean you still gotta do that though

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regardless of the mark

thorn thorn
subtle tundra
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CAUSE THE GAME IS SHIT UNTIL MAX LEVEL

hollow river
balmy condor
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it ain't about the mark

uneven nymph
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TY ROX

brave comet
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should i clear the witness even in single target?

balmy condor
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that's literally what I fucking said 10 min ago

uneven nymph
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so youre saying in basic sense

balmy condor
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brother

uneven nymph
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that the keybinds ive been using this whole time

subtle tundra
uneven nymph
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are wrong

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

uneven nymph
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i thought rogue was gonna be a simple class

balmy condor
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I mean it doesn't matter what your keybinds are, you just gotta hit them in the right order

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but yes as you described your rotation you're making some mistakes

floral vale
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
hollow river
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i would recommend looking up a keybind guide

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and learning to use more of em

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wow is a lot more comfy when you don't click

uneven nymph
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i most likely will do a full overhaul of keybinds and rotation before i enter anything endgame

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bc yeah

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clicking 4 abilities

subtle tundra
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getting used to it is best while leveling

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so you dont get overwhelmed

uneven nymph
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ill do it tomorrow cuz its nearly 2 am for me now

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maybe i should of opened wow head sooner

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yk for a bunch of rogue players yall are very patiant

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ty

subtle tundra
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oh

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no ... no....

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it heavily depends on context

fallow canopy
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One more victim to the grinding machine

subtle tundra
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the ambush mutilate guy from earlier

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oh lalala

uneven nymph
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?

balmy condor
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there was an ambush mutilate guy earlier?

runic hinge
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wish someone would ambush and mutilate me

subtle tundra
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it was content

fallow canopy
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Well maybe you do but after knowing regret is right behind the corner

thorn thorn
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I wish to know

uneven nymph
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i want to know

subtle tundra
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he was annoyed by having mutilate replaced by ambush when blindside proc, he was outraged the popular opinion wasnt the same as his

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i STILL dont know his rio

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-.-

hollow river
thorn thorn
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Aint no way

uneven nymph
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see this is where i fall of

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cuz i have no idea what the issue is

hollow river
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this?

thorn thorn
subtle tundra
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pretty sure thats later

proven jasper
subtle tundra
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not the guy

proven jasper
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Yeah my 0.5% damage difference OMEGAKEKW

thorn thorn
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Implying that would be an issue at all since KB is capped dracthyr_lulmao

proven jasper
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tru

hollow river
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so this hmm

thorn thorn
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Whispyr truly is the tony hawk of guide writers

fallow canopy
subtle tundra
uneven nymph
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aight boys ive made to 68, thanks for the guides and tips lets hope im not in any of your pub raids

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if ppl even do pub raids

thorn thorn
# subtle tundra

Ask for public opinion

Gets mad when opinion doesnt match his

Yup that is a certified wow player moment

balmy condor
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holy shit what a dumbfuck

hollow river
balmy condor
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I just read through the convo

hollow river
balmy condor
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jesus

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how did eleem not ban this guy

hollow river
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did he do anything ban worthy

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i skimmed the convo

thorn thorn
balmy condor
thorn thorn
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Based

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Reminds me of that guy bitching about the thistle tea change

subtle tundra
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im literally right here

thorn thorn
subtle tundra
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i just mentally give up now

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whenever it happens

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whatever, TAKE my dps

thorn thorn
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Very good

balmy condor
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varas are you a dumbfuck too

subtle tundra
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?? stupid ass question.

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next one

balmy condor
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next question is are you a dumbfuck

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cause you sound identical to this ambush malder

thorn thorn
subtle tundra
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no not falling for this

thorn thorn
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their discord name is literally "Make Tea great again"

subtle tundra
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whispyr, i am a better person.
2025.

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i wont fall prey to your games

balmy condor
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what games varas

thorn thorn
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Gaslighting isnt real

balmy condor
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tea malders are equal to ambush malders

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they both get irrationally angry over shit that doesn't matter

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so are you a tea malder or nah

subtle tundra
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haha!

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ok whispyr!!

balmy condor
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its a yes or no question

hollow river
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inb4 tea is removed and deathmark gives 20% mastery

subtle tundra
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yea they should bake it in with something else

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like shiv

balmy condor
thorn thorn
subtle tundra
balmy condor
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varas you mald about tea, you hold no power here

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you are beneath the average leafy

subtle tundra
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ok my only problem with auto tea

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and ive said that when it came out

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was m+

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specifically end of pulls

fallow canopy
thorn thorn
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Ikr

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Huge HOLY

balmy condor
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I mean it shouldn't be proccing end of pulls to begin with, ruptures are giving energy

thorn thorn
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Real

subtle tundra
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you know how dynamic m+ pulls are

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im not saying it happens all the time

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im saying it happens

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dont be dense

balmy condor
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I'm saying it shouldn't

subtle tundra
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ok buddy

hollow river
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i think the most unhinged thing

subtle tundra
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and we shouldnt deplete keys we've timed before

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cause we are perfect

hollow river
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is just randomly thinking you can have a Q&A with a dev

balmy condor
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his opinion is the most important

hollow river
balmy condor
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should've told him to open a support ticket and yap to the CM

thorn thorn
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Co-signed because that is some real shit

brave comet
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in mythic court can i cloak the "get the hell out of this" massive purple explosion that happens after she pulls you in?

balmy condor
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yes but you still gotta snap your web

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and also run out so you don't betray

brave comet
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how would you use cloak yourself?

balmy condor
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idk I just saved it for when I got low

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I didn't really time it with anything

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mechanics on court are pass/fail

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and dps doesn't matter

drifting cloud
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theres no good uses, using it for that explosion is fine

marble hemlock
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you can cloak the second green spread mechanic and spawn less orbs ig

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if you stack with other people who immune

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makes it easier

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especially if you end up playing melee webs in p1

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fewer orbs to soak = less chance of one of the other team being in your way still trying to soak orbs

balmy condor
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yeh but that got nerfed too now right

marble hemlock
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dunno

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im red, red does webs in p1, so not spawning more red orbs than necessary is kinda nice

fallow canopy
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I mostly used it on that fight to stop the rot dmg from the orb soaking and webs for a few seconds when I had to do webs + soak on p3, red team

livid bronze
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Heyo! During Kingsbane, i want to use my Shiv right around when the debuff has 8 seconds left right?

fallow canopy
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on p1 mostly at the end where the rot damage was kinda big

marble hemlock
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ye those are pmuch the uses i had too

livid bronze
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yeah, m+ spec with only 1 charge

marble hemlock
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cloak 2nd spread in p1 as red, fewer orbs to soak for blue so they can give space earlier

livid bronze
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I see the ST spec runs two so i would weave one at the start

balmy condor
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yes

marble hemlock
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and then soak again when running away from boss while soaking orbs with web in p3

livid bronze
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so during the kingsbane debuff, when would you pop your tea is that right after the shiv?

balmy condor
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!tea

prisma monolithBOT
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
livid bronze
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that's helpful ๐Ÿ™‚

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oh that took me a second, ok so right after the shiv yep

balmy condor
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yeah you just macro it to shiv

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and then forget about tea

marble hemlock
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shouldnt the shiv also be on a cast sequence if youre spamming? pausers

balmy condor
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no, cause shiv incurs a gcd

marble hemlock
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so you dont cxast 2 shiv back to back?

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sure but like

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certainl NEVER happened to me like ever

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that i accidentally cast shiv again too early

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nope

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not me

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never

balmy condor
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skill issue idk

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it's like any other gcd

marble hemlock
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hope you stub your toe

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and then get an ingrown nail

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for the rest of your life

rotund idol
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skill issue PepeLaugh

balmy condor
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seli's too old, 1s gcd is too fast for him

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brain lagging

marble hemlock
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listen

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thats totally uncalled for and totally accurate

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im mostly playing turnbased games now okay

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so like

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miss me with this GCD shit

fallow canopy
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and bliz made the spec have more cpm too

balmy condor
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time to retire to ffxiv and enjoy 4s gcd

fallow canopy
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we are cooked

marble hemlock
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im just dreading that mhwilds will come out

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at the same time as the new raid

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thats not gonna be okay

drifting cloud
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dont worry mhwilds might come out like 5 days before!

tulip portal
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Preety sure you need reaction times faster than 2sec for MHwilds

subtle tundra
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My pc not good enough for mh ๐Ÿฅณ

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So not a worry

tulip portal
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Id say skill issue, but idk if being poor is skill issue

subtle tundra
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๐Ÿ˜”

marble hemlock
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definitely

subtle tundra
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It is

spice spire
ember mural
marble hemlock
spice spire
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Nice delete

marble hemlock
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what delete

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you just quoted some old message of yourself to come out of the closet, and then deleted it, and now youre trying to gaslight me

spice spire
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Mf you blind or

hollow river
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ffxiv kinda comfy

marble hemlock
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where does it say it was my message?

hollow river
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fr

marble hemlock
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stop gaslighting bud

spice spire
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Itโ€™s okay oomfie

marble hemlock
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whyd you delete yours then

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if its that obvious?

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smh-

spice spire
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Because ur a gaslight gatekeep girlbosser

marble hemlock
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nah i dont think so

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nice try tho

spice spire
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Hmmmm thatโ€™s just what a gaslighter would say curious

hollow river
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someone purged

slate crown
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FFXIV has the long GCD but it has a pretty formalized structure of GCD vs off-GCd skills, and often you are "weaving" the gcd and non-gcd skills, hardly a new concept to wow players but it isn't just the GCDs they're pressing.

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I think it has a decent cadence

hollow river
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i'm like level 40 something on my ninja PepeLaugh2

brave comet
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whats this?

balmy condor
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tank buster

brave comet
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did i fuck up?

slate crown
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No

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You had agro

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which means you either pulled agro (unlikely) or the tank died

drifting cloud
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it can happen on pull if both tanks are blue

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theres a specific window when the tank has to taunt

slate crown
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Ah, well either way it's a tank fuckup if it hits you

atomic jolt
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guys

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how can I up my dps in m+

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i have

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600 ilvl

runic hinge
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get more ilvl

atomic jolt
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my details looks like this

balmy condor
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that's a lot of spatter for 600 ilvl

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are you getting carried in high keys or something

atomic jolt
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no its my own key

balmy condor
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probably not enough bleeds then

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not seeing sudden demise in the top 8 and having caustic/envenom that high is real strange for low keys

atomic jolt
balmy condor
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yeh

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more bleeds

atomic jolt
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more bleeds?

balmy condor
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more bleeds

atomic jolt
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in like

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more garrote

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and rupture

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or

balmy condor
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and crimson tempest

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yes

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all the bleeds

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more

atomic jolt
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when I open on a pack

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I put mark

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garote

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rupture rupture

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garote

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fan

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mutilate

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tempest

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something like this

balmy condor
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good start

atomic jolt
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but putting

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garrote

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on 20 enemies

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is pain

jolly heath
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no u dont put garrote on 20 mobs

balmy condor
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I mean you definitely should from stealth

runic hinge
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put garrote on me

balmy condor
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just gar instead of fok

atomic jolt
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yes

balmy condor
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garrote outside of stealth is whatever

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but in stealth, just keep garroting till everything has it

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that's fine

atomic jolt
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yes

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outside of stealth

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i never garrote

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except main target

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if main target survives

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long enough

balmy condor
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reasonable yeah

atomic jolt
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assa is fun

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but

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i have to pump more

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and decision making before every pull is

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aids

balmy condor
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sorry to hear that

atomic jolt
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warri wasnt like this.. Sadge

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combat rogue wotlk aswell ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

balmy condor
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Correct, those are in fact different specs

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They should play differently

past bobcat
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
grim vigil
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guides say stat wise we go crit>master> but all my sims favor mastery in aoe and st, im at 20k mastery and 13k crit, anyone else info?

weary spear
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any idea if sin still m+ meta next season?

brave comet
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which of the two bosses should i have my deathstalker mark on in phase 3 of mythic court?

slate crown
prisma monolithBOT
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There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
  • Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
brave comet
slate crown
coral ibex
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never swap again

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court is a 3 swap fight

weary spear
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dang. just pray ig

slate crown
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There is never a way to predict that this long before the patch

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For future reference

brave comet
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i have this macro, i want it to use tempered potion rank 3, but it only uses tempered potion rank 2

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is there a way to force it to use the appropriate rank i want it to use

coral ibex
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bank your rank 2's

spice spire
slate crown
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What's your prediction then?

coral ibex
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BOOM or DOOM quake

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tell me

spice spire
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Buddy Iโ€™m always booming

spice spire
coral ibex
spice spire
minor finch
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Itโ€™s going to be a range tier I feel it

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They donโ€™t have any negative feedback with their tier such as melee does

grim vigil
thorn thorn
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If spec is meta you get a bunch of animals trying to play it and it hurts your soul

spice spire
thorn thorn
ruby oyster
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remove IDs you dont need

thorn thorn
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Im sure you are plenty aware dracthyr_hehe

elfin valley
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Court down

dawn heath
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is sudden demise not working on the maze mobs? in mist?

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the execute part

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or is the visual just not working on execute

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cause the mobs dissapear

winged sun
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U have the best emotes

rotund oak
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or it doesnt say at all

dawn heath
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ye it seems to work

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but the visual of doing damage isnt there

rotund oak
slate crown
jade abyss
dawn heath
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btw

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chinese people have managed to "hide" their cheat in logs now

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it doesn't show that they're using the buffs on logs even though they are

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its also funny how they've played with the same people for like days and weeks and all of a sudden they're 4minutes faster in a key they've done 50 times

small sequoia
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do you guys know if S2 comes with new potions and consumables?

hollow river
small sequoia
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ahh ok

jade abyss
hollow river
small sequoia
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im curious about like whetstones, runes, and pots etc

jade abyss
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Cant remember

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There was new runes in df when i remember right

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But we will see :)

hollow river
midnight mist
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S3*

hollow river
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sometimes they just do it randomly ye

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feast too iirc?

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idr it's been so long since i needed pve consumes

midnight mist
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hm

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i dont think we changed food in df

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i think we got new health pots

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and we might have gotten a new dps pot in s3 aswell

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but im unsure

jade abyss
#

Im sure no dps pots flasks and food

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Health pots maybe

midnight mist
#

Wish we had a big rune thing like in df

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Runes are costing me too much

jade abyss
#

I miss the food enchant

hollow river
#

ya that was a good thing they did in df

midnight mist
#

Ye

hollow river
#

i spent so much on augments in SL

midnight mist
#

The new feast isn't as good

jade abyss
#

With doubled duratiin

hollow river
#

ungodly amounts

midnight mist
#

Having to spend 10 feast

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  • having to craft it yourself
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..

hollow river
#

you have to craft feasts yourself now?

midnight mist
#

If you want the good ones that don't go away on death ye

hollow river
#

ahh

midnight mist
#

Cost 10 feast

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So 5 k a feast

jade abyss
#

Dont know in df was r3 stuff a lot cheaper

hollow river
#

sounds like a raid only thing

midnight mist
#

Eh

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I would rather have it in m+

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You die and you have no food anymore

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It's annoying

jade abyss
#

Why no risotto?

midnight mist
#

What

hollow river
#

don't die ez

jade abyss
#

Or its weaker?

midnight mist
#

Wtf is risotto cuh

jade abyss
#

Agilityfood

midnight mist
#

What's the diff with the feast

jade abyss
#

Its cheap

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You can craft 5 from it to one that doesnt expand when you die

midnight mist
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Half the agi

jade abyss
#

But i dont know how much is the difference from agility wise

hollow river
#

it's a personal food

midnight mist
#

It's half

hollow river
#

from the sound of it

midnight mist
#

So

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Kinda shit

jade abyss
#

Oh

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I mean i timed +13 with it

hollow river
#

they really should just make food insta apply and persist on death in general

midnight mist
#

What does that mean

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Lol

hollow river
#

lmao

midnight mist
#

Sometimes I die first pack of a dungeon

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Then we time

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Actually

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The 18 nw we timed

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We wiped first pull

hollow river
midnight mist
#

So we timed no food buff

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How is that

jade abyss
#

Ok 18 its a other level than 13

hollow river
midnight mist
#

No food buff tho CAUGHT

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Imagine with a food bufd

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That's at least a 23 timed

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On god no cap

hollow river
#

not a +20? doesn't matter then

midnight mist
#

Ye

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We can time it easely in 19 but idk about 20

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20 kinda high

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But 20 pretty number

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I want a 20 before the end of the season

hollow river
#

keys aren't being failed on dmg rn right

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like dps

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being failed on survivability?

midnight mist
#

Ye

hollow river
#

has no1 timed a 20 with all these bugs yet

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oo i see a few

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ara/nw

midnight mist
#

On timer nw can probably be timed on 22 or some shit

midnight mist
#

Nw just has infinite timer cause you use crafters that kill the mobs for you

runic hinge
#

food buff is over rated

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don't wanna get fat

midnight mist
#

Real

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My favorite race is panda tho

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For the belly

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๐Ÿผ

jade abyss
#

Panda or go home

midnight mist
#

cant wait for racials to finally be gone

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so i can play panda

bright tartan
#

and got only like 4 panda kills

hollow river
midnight mist
#

you lose like 2% dps

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  • you dont have dwarf
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which is op

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so

hollow river
#

man up

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(i say this as i play 3 night elf rogues for pvp)

midnight mist
#

Race is litteraly the freest DPS gain ever

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I'm not swapping

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People would kill their whole family for a 0.1% DPS gain item

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But then say that race doesn't matter

hollow river
#

well

jade abyss
hollow river
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for most people, making a permanent decision you don't enjoy the aesthetic of based on 1% dps

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is just kinda dumb

midnight mist
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No choice unfortunately

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If I see a rogue

hollow river
#

i'm saying for the general playerbase

midnight mist
#

Applying to my key

hollow river
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not you

midnight mist
#

And this mf is a panda

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You better know I'm declining this bozo

hollow river
#

that's class envy tho

jade abyss
#

But he get better food !

hollow river
#

YOU know that isn't his best race, so you're a lil biased

midnight mist
#

Indeed

hollow river
#

i'm sure plenty of high level players also play w/e tf they want

midnight mist
#

And

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That food thing wasn't working the whole beta

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I was getting 0 stats from feast

jade abyss
#

Im a female blood elve simp

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But i would change into panda

ornate escarp
#

Orc with atkpower buff is kinda nice to ๐Ÿ˜„

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just swapped from blood elve simp to orc haha

jade abyss
#

Female orc is good aswell

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Zugzug

hollow river
#

I remember mechagnome used to be the best simming race

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And basically no one played it ever kekw3

jade abyss
#

Bcs people like feet, and mecha feets are ugly af

runic hinge
#

I only play nelf for the flips

livid jacinth
#

Maybe the wrong place to ask but.. We are going to prog Ovi'Naxx mythic on friday, didn't really expect us to get this far as none of us have done mythic raiding before. I am tasked with setting up addons/wa for the fight, as we kinda heard it was nescecary. What are people actually using for this fight, as I have no idea what i am doing right now

midnight mist
#

i think most people use liquid wa pack nowadays

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it will auto assign marks to players who get the egg break mech

sharp viper
midnight mist
#

so you will need to have 4 players assigned to put marks on the eggs for people to follow

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each one putting one mark

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better place to ask this is the raid leader discord btw

livid jacinth
#

Thanks i'll check that out!

midnight mist
#

well one person can do it alone

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bvut you need 4 symbol per set of eggs

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so its easier if you just have 4 people doing it, each one setting up his egg

livid jacinth
#

Right

midnight mist
#

his symbol

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thats what most people are doign anywya

sharp viper
midnight mist
#

you can just have the raid leader doing everything aswell

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ye

livid jacinth
#

Think we got one guy that loves putting up markers, so that should not be a prob

sharp viper
#

and it wasn't the raid leader but a separate marker (named Mark as well)

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it was destiny

midnight mist
#

its just easier for 4 people to think about a single egg and dont forget it

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than 1 person to learn 4 egg for every set

sharp viper
#

if one person does the marking the others can focus on dps

midnight mist
#

atlough once you get it, the eggs are mostly always a similar patern

livid jacinth
#

cheers

blazing plaza
#

what are the best ring gems for m+ atm ?

agile wedge
#

team i will help out queen mythic tonight, just a quick question about rootbreak. vanish can be pressed anytime to break and cloak needs to be applied before root is there? do you have more tips for the fight? i already saw you can step in intermission

rare jackal
#

you can also cloak after

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only vanish NEEDS to be used after

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in p2, the hitbox of the expeller beam is quite generous, you can get hit while standing behind the mob

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so beware of that

keen spruce
#

!ui

prisma monolithBOT
grim jay
royal lantern
midnight mist
#

?

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You realize what people do for 2% DPS or

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Race is litteraly free

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Always 2% dps

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No work

grim jay
#

I'd call looking at fucking ugly pixels you'd prefer to not look at atleast some work

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depending on whats best

rotund oak
#

im looking at some kebab right now

royal lantern
royal lantern
grim jay
royal lantern
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"20bucks is free"

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bruh

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go outside

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instead of pushing m+ during christmas time

grim jay
#

I mean in the grand scheme of things I wouldnt think much of 20 bucks either

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but im sure thats not the case for the majority

rotund oak
grim jay
#

especially for frequent spending

spice spire
grim jay
spice spire
#

You can

rotund oak
royal lantern
rotund oak
#

what if i toss 40

midnight mist
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Well a long time

royal lantern
#

if im feeling generous with spending

midnight mist
#

It's not like it was changing every week

grim jay
midnight mist
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If you select the correct race the first time

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You never pay 20 bucks

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Quick tip

grim jay
#

do they pay you for switching off some races?

subtle tundra
royal lantern
dawn seal
rotund oak
rotund oak
subtle tundra
#

yes

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when i push

rotund oak
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there's no schedule but ive pressed the follow button

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cool stuff,ill be watching

subtle tundra
#

the schedule is asking the homies when we have time

rotund oak
#

figured that much ๐Ÿ˜‰

subtle tundra
#

cause we are people with jobs...

nova python
#

how many โ€žhoursโ€ a day were you pushing this season varas?

subtle tundra
#

no idea, we dont play daily

midnight mist
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its like at least 5 year old or

subtle tundra
#

the racial is, but playing dwarf isnt

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its a DF thing i believe

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nvm

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sl

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still new-ish

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cause a lot of people had characters already when it happened

midnight mist
#

ye so about 5 year or smth

subtle tundra
#

smartest french

midnight mist
#

vara

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when you pushing again

subtle tundra
#

in like a week

midnight mist
#

my holiday week is over now

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so

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idk push again or smth

subtle tundra
#

i wont push with pugs

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so im waiting for lovely team โค๏ธ

midnight mist
#

well ye

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gotta be a psychopath to do these keys with pugs

midnight mist
subtle tundra
#

how much dps is having max ilvl ring + mistletoe + raid buff exploit

#

nice blizzard, keeping your competitive games comeptitive

midnight mist
#

no idea

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misletoe is legal tho

subtle tundra
#

its legal but i wont have it when i play, will i

midnight mist
#

prolly not ye

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but its litteraly a blizz thing so

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its like 1% vers tho kinda whatever

subtle tundra
#

ik but my point is adding all those things up

midnight mist
#

ye i know

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idk a lot of people that did that tho

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outside of chinese

tawdry gulch
#

what ilvl can we get ring @ now?

midnight mist
#

645 i thihnk

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or was it 49

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i forgot

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49 ye

tawdry gulch
#

noice

hollow river
midnight mist
#

idk

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i dont

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like people actualyl go crazy over a trinket that would be a 1% dps increase

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i dont find it that out there to also want to get your free dps from race idk

hollow river
#

you can swap your trinket numerous times for free

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from playing the game how it's meant to be played

royal lantern
#

he is giga cooked

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he legit cant understand why most people think that racials effects are a meme

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cant make this up

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and compares it with trinkets

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MF thinks wow is league of legends in legit every single way

lusty kraken
royal lantern
#

yes

midnight mist
subtle tundra
#

not even people who play competitively care

#

i certainly dont

lusty kraken
#

I think they do, otherwise they would play something other than dwarf or night elf kekdog

subtle tundra
#

idk until this patch i was playing troll

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and thats TROLL for m+

#

(get it?)

lusty kraken
#

hehe

subtle tundra
#

also i didnt track the racial

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so many times id miss casts

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cause 3 min cd

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so i literally swapped to orc so that doesnt happen

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now i can fully ignore it

midnight mist
subtle tundra
#

cause they dont know that it doesnt matter

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its a lack of knowledge

royal lantern
#

^

midnight mist
#

People care about optimizing even for world quests

subtle tundra
#

its in the character selection screen. you commit to a racial

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if you dont care how you look, what do you base your choice on

royal lantern
#

the game says in character creation "humans get more haste/crit/vers/mastery"

lusty kraken
#

more like new players think their choice of race or secondary stats is what makes them underperform

#

and not them pressing their buttons wrong

royal lantern
#

very insightfull btw

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and wow HAD a time where racial shit mattered

#

aka classic/tbc

lusty kraken
#

I wish they would do something about dwarf and night elf racials

royal lantern
#

fear ward dwarf only, draenei aura for the group, orc axe and human sword skill etc

#

saying that racials dont matter is important because it gives people the right nudge in the first place

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there are too many monkeys that think "im stuck cus my race sims 2k lower!!!! THATS THE ONLY REASON"

subtle tundra
#

you cant time that 12 cause youre not dwarf, dumbass

lusty kraken
#

racials matter for utility, but it won't fix your bad parses

subtle tundra
#

give blizz their 25 euroes

winged sun
#

whats best race for sin?

#

or or maghar?!?

#

orc*

subtle tundra
#

i think in outlaw you can ask those questions pretty well

royal lantern
#

and in reality, most of the "stoneform giga important!!!" guys dont Press it correct in the first place anyway kekdog

#

no zac, you are not one of them

subtle tundra
#

my monk is dwarf and i dont know what to use it on

winged sun
#

?

midnight mist
#

Just play the correct race and eat fish so you aren't ugly idk

#

Not hard

subtle tundra
lusty kraken
#

my rogue is a human because I'm a human irl pepe_chad

subtle tundra
#

fish big protein..

winged sun
#

are u 10 i never saw someone send that before

subtle tundra
#

its a cheatcode for brotein

winged sun
royal lantern
#

i can give you big protein

subtle tundra
#

im 11 dummy

#

my mom lets me on disc

#

11 cm IN YOUR ASS

winged sun
subtle tundra
#

THE WHOLE LENGTH

winged sun
#

4 inch

grim jay
#

you are joking about 11cm but for some countries its their average

subtle tundra
#

12.7 for romania apparently.

#

its cause they didnt ask me

#

would be 12.6

winged sun
#

ez mine is enough to reach stormwind from dornogal

grim jay
midnight mist
#

There is a portal

#

So

grim jay
#

if you are directly infront of it

midnight mist
#

Ye..

winged sun
#

nah people use it as a bridge to use the new dew mount to reach there in style

subtle tundra
#

just be a mage... your cock can reach any city

hollow river
grim jay
#

never lose a good one to distance again

hollow river
#

then when everyone here tells them

#

pick what you think looks cool, they're all within 20k dps on bis profiles

#

they say OK and pick their favorite

midnight mist
#

When people ask for best race in outlaw

winged sun
#

@midnight mist btw zac

midnight mist
#

I tell them dwarf basegcat

#

We are not the same

winged sun
#

i think i started to play mini boss before last on dawn very well

#

if u wanna see vod of that

#

last key

hollow river
#

yeh i just think that's kinda dumb to tell the general playerbase

royal lantern
#

outlaw players are also not people

#

so nobody cares

hollow river
#

'if you wanna minmax the highest level content, you might want to play X'

radiant raven
#

The correct answer is Goblin because they have the funniest stealth animation.

hollow river
#

not 'dwarf is best because 1% dps better keklol'

midnight mist
#

Idk 1/2% is a big number

hollow river
#

it's just weirdge

midnight mist
#

And dwarf racial is op

royal lantern
hollow river
#

its just weirdge idk

#

racial op sure

radiant raven
#

Just keep refreshing the page until the best race you like the most is on top

hollow river
#

but most people aren't going 18s n shit

grim jay
subtle tundra
royal lantern
#

^^^^

midnight mist
#

Until they will

royal lantern
#

or press it when not needed

midnight mist
#

And they will be happy they have it

#

When they run their first 15 ara Kara

royal lantern
#

stoneform randomly when tze healer is allready doing something is like, not usefull at all

midnight mist
#

And they start dying from the poison

radiant raven
#

If I was horde I'd be a goblin

spice surge
#

Me orc

midnight mist
#

They will think about zac that told them to play dwarf

spice surge
#

Me macro to deathmark

#

Me smash

midnight mist
#

And they will be thankful

royal lantern
#

and thats the game for everyone outside of a handfull of groups in the world cus they dont assing stuff in the first place

midnight mist
#

While the assa guys

#

Going to be stuck in 10s

royal lantern
solar wyvern
#

Mfw my healer says no pct this poison set, so i dwarf.

And then he uses pct...

midnight mist
#

Cause people in here told them to go troll

#

Get owned assa noobs

hollow river
#

the outlaw guys can't even get into a 10 let alone a 15 zac

midnight mist
#

Hm

#

Yes

#

But!

#

The tide will turn

radiant raven
#

When they can count above 8?

hollow river
#

the 'bis dps races'

#

will also turn

midnight mist
#

Idk dwarf been the best since I started the game so

#

I'm safe for now

solar wyvern
#

One day draenai rogue will be BiS

radiant raven
#

Well yeah pushing F5 makes the bis dps race change dracthyr_kek

solar wyvern
#

And u can be a hot goat girl

radiant raven
#

I still hope, someday, they'll steal my brilliant idea for a racial overhaul.

solar wyvern
#

Replace hero talents with racial talents

solar wyvern
#

Hehe

hollow river
#

ah dwarf isn't even the best dps wise

#

at least according to fuu's sheet

solar wyvern
#

Maghar orc stocks are rising i hear

midnight mist
#

Me outlaw

radiant raven
# royal lantern removing them?

Yes, if my first idea is really bad. My first idea is they just give us a skill tree with a Passive and an Active point. You can then learn every current racial in the game and just mix and match. Everybody can do everything.

royal lantern
#

wait, so you want to be giga competitive and play outlaw instead of enh shaman

hollow river
midnight mist
#

Nah but nelf is fake tho

royal lantern
#

sure

#

works aswell

midnight mist
#

So

hollow river
radiant raven
#

It'd let you just swap stuff depending on content and pick whatever race you visually liked the most.

midnight mist
#

And also it doesn't work in m+ either

hollow river
#

dorf low

midnight mist
#

Ye nelf is fake

hollow river
#

toren better

royal lantern
# hollow river

dwarf tauren different numbers when they have the same effect btw

winged sun
#

nelf bait

midnight mist
#

You just ignore nelf