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ive read the new craft tech,i like it so much man

looks so cool
Currency should drop more but yeah it slaps
With omens?
I think he died
Currency drops a fuck ton if you stack item rarity
Here is my spike from the start of a NW, not depleted but please roast me for posting meters on my +11 key (Not gamer enough)
yeah and omens,its actually many things,influence to fav stats etc
You’re running with a balance Druid
Is this an Aug key sir
It drops an absolute ton in the later acts, too. Just.. I want more
Because I see tank #3
care theres a details police here he will talk about ur deplete for 5 mins straight and send 20 clown emotes 
Yeah I just like want a better bow dog
Okay you pass the vibecheck this time Tyler

I’m onto you though 
idk why would u post details here fam,its not outlaw channel,we dont encourage egos here 🙂
I saw Zeross do it and get attacked so I wanted to be attacked too
oh thats who it is from my blocked msgs
makes sense
Homie is a masochist
Too bad you’re a nice lad and I’d never
Zeross same stuff but he’s silly
❤️ luv u homie
we luv u 2 :3

everything that gets posted is ego, welcome to the assas channel 
Nah I disagree a bit

Bro im going to deep dick your pops
citrines are the same for us for M+?
Does the value of the new gem change with ilvl of the ring?
I got different value of secondary stats for 2 different toon even when the ring are same ilvl

when you dm an old homie and get this response

Quake would never
mf's have no familiy to spend time with on christmas days
smh my head
Try me lil bro
Do it
Ok
You have a problem
They also have a problem
not d2…
I miss Destiny
you miss a memory of destiny
^
Telesto...
nah bruh you really dont get it lol
bungie removed literally over half of the content in the game

like, everytime people complain about stuff in wow, look at destiny and what bungie does and you see what REALLY bad decisions 24/7 look like 
that bad huh?
Gotta vault it all.
imagine wow vanilla thru wod just disappeared
unable to interact with it in any way ever again
that's what they did
What if Blizz decided to put all tbc, wrath, cata and mop content in a box, and go "you can't play this" because of the size of the install disk
AND that content was still kinda relevant
dont forget that
like, not how vanilla thru wod is in wow
just putting the best raid in destiny in the bin
🙂

They're undoing a lot of it I think? and they un-sunseted weapons so all the cool guns are back
but it's very silly
you paid for it, and in destiny there is no "patch power curve" like it is in wow, cus you can always infuse gear
aka you get a gun->you can use it forever by making its ilvl higher
they just deleted ~60% oif its content
even thought you could still use its stuff
They introduced a grossly powerful pair of pvp-earned weapons at one point (mountaintop and the smg I forget the name of) that were just.. insanely good in every bit of content.
thats crazy to me
And then whoops, how do we stop players using them
there was only 1 pvp gun that was relevant by the time they sunsetted
they had already effective nerfed the mountaintop and the recluse
it was only the sniper that gave you back ammo if you missed
that was the only thing that was imba and they couldn't figure out
they've since nerfed that gun too
so every "problem" they intended to "solve" with sunsetting, wasn't solved by sunsetting, and required additional tuning
so theyve basicly effectively nerfed/nuked every bit of old content
yes
and u paid it for nothing
correct

And for a long time (still?) it isn'te ven in the game.
there is content i paid for that is removed from the game
a lot of it
multiple expansions, raids
entire zones
I think the Levithan raid is back in now (the best raid ever) but still, it was gone for ages.
I'm about to assume i'm asking a stupid question, so sorry about this: I'm working on my assassination dps, and used wowanylyzer, it says i'm not using vanish enough (or at all) what does vanish do for me, and what should i be doing after I use it? (sorry about this)
no
dont be sorry about anything and depends the content/talent trees
for m+ we vanish to reapply/extend dots
same for raid for couple of builds
it's raiding, and second boss inn palace, blood thingy
bloodtwister
bloodbound horror
you vanish for MA at the end of your cooldowns
there's the wowanylyzer. I'm doing something wrong, just donno what
WoW analyzer isn’t as updated
I think I need more crit, but simc is telling me mastery is better, as far as chants/gems go, so not sure on that eiter.
a tragedy that it's unplayable.
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
I got that, that's why I simmed it 🙂
idk why simc is telling u any specific stat
it was telling me mastery enchants over crit or haste, that's all i meant.
so i should be using vanish immedaitly after the deathmark, shiv, kingsbane combo?
Why does the last boss of siege just suck my enrgy completely dry
Moreso than any other single target
lots of things to feint
because you feint alot? idk
Ah
You right
I always forget to factor that
Suppose we only need to feint pre water
also u swap between two tendies
is there any diff between the writhing banding embellish + dawnthread or 2x dawnthread?
whats a sim?

i mean it's 1+1 or 2x1... the math should be the same, no?
its a model we input information to simulate the behaviour of a spec in a certain environment
Yeah, Sap
writhing without patch is bad
Just do the math bro
!simguide
Guide to Simming yourself: https://www.wowhead.com/how-to-use-raidbots-sims-stat-weights
For more accurate results you should always sim yourself using Top Gear for gear you already have in your bags
or Droptimizer to see which content drops the biggest upgrade for you. Do not use Stat Weights sims to evaluate gear.
Bleeds on both tenties is a GG
idk if its trolling or im just weird
if bro is trolling is on a diff lvl
Just to be clear, Writhing Armor Banding does not affect Dawnthread.
oh ty for the answer
So the difference between Writhing + Dawn vs 2x Dawn is 1x Dawn vs 2x Dawn
The Writhing does nothing on its own
thats what i was wondering
Proper answer??? What is this subtlety channel
yeah that was 1000x more helpful than the "lol sim it"
u should just sim the difference
if there is anyway
I think people maybe got confused and thought you meant Ascension + Dawn vs 2x Dawn
When asking questions for information on gearing, sim it is usually the correct answer however.
i know what he meant,its just whatever,the diff is rly minimal if it exists
thats why u ask the robot
get ur answer

The robot wouldnt tell you the reason tho right
Writhing on its own is literally just not having an embellishment though 
It doesnt say "writhing is useless remove it"
Well
Why waste time
Man, my right arrow key is double clicking
Sim is for when 2 effects push against each other

if it's literally 0 vs something else
that's that, you don't need to sim that
you could have seen it i nthe sim but that wouldn't tell you that they don't interact
just that one was better than the other and you may be left wondering why but not have an answer
Especially given how small the impact any embellishments are
yeah it is but in this case, their answer was extremely helpful to me how writhing + dawnthread doesnt work to double it

yup true,what if there was a guide though to say that 😉
for raids, which one is better
yeah for sure
ask the robot fam
(i hate sacbrood but ill restrain myself)
almost there
I used sacbrood for the entire tier until a crystal dropped in the vaulty, nice trinky
why do you hate sac?
it takes time to ramp
plus i wont bother using it if its haste on equip vs a skadryns which is bigbutton trinket
or crystal or knife
the dream.... i got a myth track crystal tho and thats nice
My character is almost done
i mean thats what i use, but theyre pathetic hero track pieces, so
wait until sub is FotM and all the monkeys jump ship again

well thats why u ought to sim it fam 🙂
Just rash cloak, sikran neck, mists of tirna neck from vault left
Cant wait "hey guys do we still backstab in shadow dance?'
actually not far away
sub is going nuclear soon
The tier set for sub seems antifun, but very strong
then half of them will come back because they dont understand how sub works
yup its stonks
if they buff sub a bit more its gonna be huge
I hope my prediction of sitting on finishers for 10-15 seconds to preserve streak and then dance at full stacks comes true
It's come to my attention that I've been missing a key component of the assassination rogue arsenal. What's a good kingsbane total tracker lol
your eyes
not good enough.
Details meter
I want to look at the funny number
eh I have sacbrood, got it mythic early on, didn't get the others, gg, waiting for S2 and our hyper RNG tier set
Download msbt and make it pop kb numbers to fill your entire screen
Increasing in size as it ramps
I got Myth track Sac, Ovinax egg and Spyglass, but had to run Grim Batol 86 times and in the end I ended up paying an ele shaman 200k so I could upgrade my 606 WUE Skardyn's to a Hero track one
Upgrading to Myth track really won't even be that big of a deal, but...it's personal, y'know?
Who,re you callin an outlaw pardner
the yellow man
piss bros
On details
welll the yellow name
Ik im bugging u
ik,i like getting bugged
Uwu

yeah it's just nice to have full bis haha
take cover boys,more pirates
i cant decide whether i want to take 1 point of lethality or WAT instead for M+... i really like the double vanish
They are so close in value its preference
Only real choice imo is forced induction vs subterfuge
Everything else is similar
ooh i see
assa is the OG "nothing really matters" spec in m+
have IC+spatter+Crimson tempest+Kingsbane skilled, and the rest is kinda whatever lol
question, since my guild is progging court right now. in raidbots sims, should i use patchwork 2 bosses instead of 1?
just play the normal raid build
- spatter
nothing really special you do on court there
u takin spatter on sikran? 
talking about simming
sikran and kyveza are purely ST
and rash
u ain't touchin those little critters
is IB the "normal raid build" cus its 100%st, when 80% of raidfights since forever are not 100% st
lmao
@brave comet I mean to what purpose
wtf is this
its still a 1 target fight, most dmg is happening on the dmg amps
ur myth track skadryns

hohoho merry xmas
reading you saying that makes me realise again how weird germans are
cus we celebrate christmas on the 24th evening
lol
and not 25th like everyone else
weirdos
Fuck u mean everyone else
Some americans also celebrate on the 24th but we call the 25th xmas
and christmas is an AMERICAN THING
It's 24th in a lot of places in Europe
WOOO AMERICA
*most other countrys
A lot of Europe is the 24th
iirc only germany and i think brazil do 24th evening?
i can only speak for nordics but the big day is 24th here too
im decked tf out
Entire north Europe?
u are outlaw though,its disgusting
outlaw with dagger main hand 
1 out of 1 player
game wants me to be a sin main
its jsut life calling u to behave as a human being
ye
cus of the buff you get every 2 weeks lol
i mean, i never expected to parse high with all the shenanigans this late in the tier
u get a buff as in amidrassil buff?
The buff everyone gets every 2 weeks?
like, do a clear with a higher buff before everyone else everytime it gets higher->you allready have a huge adventagr
we dont even raid til friday, so plenty of time for other sto reclear
Cursing in Thursday raiding 
If ur gonna 99 it ur gonna 99 it
weekly "quest" that gives 2,5% dmg/healing every 2 weeks
and ye
Tuesday or Friday irrelevant

if you raid on wednesday and grab the buff quick pre raid, you have a big adventage on parses allready
aka
that means i need to do all those to get my 95s
more of a meme then ussual
Largely depends on how many plays the spec
TURNS OUT they make that stuff for prog, and not for parse whores that want their ussules number bigger on the last week of the raid

When a rank 4 is a 96
Huh?
only quake is more insane
How’s that a shots fired at me?
stealthi is raccoon god
I don’t give 2 shits about parsing. I just play
i was trying to point out ur prog parses
but u farm parses
wdym
Doesent mean I care
^
thats crazy to me
stealthi just plays big lol
12 yards from center of target
I just play quick in and quick out
and guild that has insane kill timers, which makes it even better
parsing is life
but no degen "lol let me solo adds" shit 4 weeks in a row from him 
We haven’t done any speed in a while now
im watching his stream silently
damn do i bother asking the tank to move the big thing im targeting together with everything else, grouped nicely?
anyone has had this bug when casting t&t pulls mobs ?
i didnt cast tricks for ages now, so no
Isn’t that what they’re supposed to do in the first place
Their literal job
is there a way to "sim" the crafted dagger missives all at once to find the best one for the 2nd one?
or do i have to run the sim one at a time
Hit the plus on the dagger in top gear
whattehell
thanks Whispyr...its been a a long day
oh iunno. im not rly sure how far 12 yards is. sometimes theres like a noticeable gap between the big thing and some archers/casters and im pretty sure my caustic isnt hitting
okay question, this is mid maxing kindve, in a scenario when i'm in the midst of kingsbane, and crimson temptest is about to fall off, let's say 3+ targets do i CT or Envonem
Double melee range
You ct
@balmy condor have you seen this build https://i.imgur.com/2xA7kIl.jpeg
it just popped off in grim batol
what key level
wow no DTB? how novel and unique
what a strange build
where did you get it from
!wa
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ring can hit 649 this week?
645
someone said that there is a rare that can drop an item to make it 649?
someone is probably full of shit
i wonder if next seasons dungeons will allow for more of this build
brother its been the recommended build for lower keys for nearly 3 years now
wdym more of this build
only seen it played in gb
okay, and?
id like to play it more
who has you at gunpoint to not play it in other dungeons
the overall dmg window at the end of the key
in gb
why not in other dungeons
there ya go
breaking free from archon and playing the game for yourself
I'm proud
that's character development
last week a person in my guild had one drop off a rare. Ring was 645
whats the diff between these 2 https://i.imgur.com/ub01fz8.png explain like im 5
the left one is really good and the right one sucks ass
why did the chinese brother use it
cause they don't have access to western theorycrafting and are as a region completely disconnected from our guides and information
they are primarily just copying streamers
and the streamers cook awful shit all the time
Justice for the 🦀 build
now check those parses
yea they often use wacky builds and gear
very often its just padding like crazy/killed the boss 40x and got a lucky pull
is there a quest somewhere or is it the faction change exploit people have done?
Its not reset for me yet
There’s a quest on the island
With a purple marker
🤔
they made the new map markers for quest specifically so people know which one are important
yes, they have an insane amount of sale runs 
purple quest marker = something that is important cus its a gear/power thing
people said the same thing about mythic court earlier this patch and like 12/20 of the kills were from one mfer who did all 12 of those kills in 1 day
just selling carries over and over and over
parsing is not skill
it is luck, knowledge, and repetition
I have neither
i got a 99 on multiple heroic fights cus i went cringebound and flipped high
very skill
much knowledge
to make tails #3 dmg done

Imagine next patch
what's up guys, is there anyone here around 3k io that could answer some questions about assassin?
why do you need 3k rio 
it's just a way for me to vet their knowledge is all
💀
sorry mb
well, he is called casualaddict, not progameraddict
checkmate
sure. how valuable is haste? is there a soft cap atm? (i'm not finding this info anywhere). also, are we pumping out envenoms or are we trying to epi the buff?
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
that is not a 3k io question
that answers the first bunch
haste is good in single target, and really bad in aoe
haste loses value in aoe over other stats
bro, i don't need heat for this. i have no idea who anyone here is or what they actually know. didn't mean to offend anyone
and with twist the knife "pumping envenoms" and "extend the buff for max uptime" is basically the same tbh, just spam it in cds
I still think it’s absurd that blizz devs making 500k a year can’t come into the office today to fix their stupid bugs. Lazy mfers
outside of cds you dont really do dmg anyway
yes, LAZY devs, go work on christmas eve
smh my head, why dont they do that??
and im pretty sure they dont make 500k a year 
That's why you're the 🐐 of all time
its actually 5000k
Was boosting 2 days ago some 3k rio guys … he just bought all boost and got 3k rio almost
So it’s not about rio nowadays.. everyone can get there
there are 3k io players who do not know what a dispel is
nah, its just funny that some people put so much "value" in that imaginary score number
when m+ score is kinda a meme
like, you literally can fail upwards
most people even do that
there is no decay/score lost, so fail those 30 keys in a row, get 1 group with stacked players that carry you->number goes up and now you act like some bigshot m+ pro
there are 3k io players are who 4/8M rn stuck on ovinax
its not really indicative of anything
ovi'nax is just m+
I mean being stuck 4/8 is never a one player problem lol
aright yeah i get it. thanks for the info
3k is on the higher side, but 3k is also just a point that many people just bruteforce like crazy without REALLY knowing what they do
I am stuck 2.5k io and 4/8 mythic by choice
yeah I think the morale of the story is next time someone shows up they should ask for 3.2k io
Anyway, the answer to your question will always be, sim yo self
4/8M is better than 6/8M

REAL AND BASED
eh, asking for stat values is kinda normal
Sure but you can almost always answer it with a simmy sim
who will give the answer they simmed
you aint lying
also https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gPtr7Cnb61jjS7NYcmCHAP can you see if i can sneak any more dps in this?
what would you do different
get better gear
more myth track pieces

More cowbell
i mean, what are we supposed to say
not all items are max possible ilvl->best way to get more dmg

that is the best way to get more dmg
ye it just sounds kinda funny
there is so much history in that statement
are you real?
idk
Hello guys, any 4k rio people here? I need help choosing item from great vault, sim days myth skardyn is best but idk i saw a lot of people playing transmitter lately so i was thinking maybe skardyn is dead now and we shouldnt trust sims. Any help pls? Only reply if your 4k+ rio btw no trolls pls
I gotchu, here's your improved sim, just changed a lil talent around super free do not look at the dagger do not look at the dagger do not look at the dagger do not look at the dagger do not look at the dagger do not look at the dagger do not look at the dagger do not look at the dagger do not look at the dagger do not look at the dagger do not look at the dagger do not look at the dagger do not look at the dagger do not look at the dagger
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jy2xRhQoMhCP2odbC5V2iW
simple easy gains
would be extremely nice haha
crazy faction change re-craft hack
why crafted dagger mh?????
I'm more of an ocarina type player yk, music crafting tells me its the way to go
Omg ty i sae casual playing the new no ironwire build with depths enchants, i wonder if he knows about ocarina tech tho
Most m+ players are tone deaf so I doubt it brb spending 35k on regemming for 0.056% dps
Oh wow! I spent 700k also on changing emchants every week because i ser many streamers playing different enchants and xhanging them up
Anyways
790
Merry christmas
Homie timetraveled
Yeah it's the uear 1914, things are looking rough man
can i buy the upgrade citrine somewhere or do i have to farm it on all 8 characters
dahell
Get it once from drops or turtleboi, can get it across all toons from vendors
yo I saw Critcake was running these enchants for M+, do we not want to run radiant power anymore?
turtle boy doesnt sell it to my main, done all quests on my main
For most eu people it must be close to midnight right?
Not sure tho
what citrine are you looking for
the one that upgrades the ring +3
that's a weekly quest bud
and how do i get it on alts if i didnt quest on them
Look for the purple exclamation mark on camp
I DID IT ON MY MAIN
then kill rares
sucks to have to kill 5-10 min worth of rares?
Hey whispyr how so i kill rares? Sim it? Or get to 3k
yeah sounds awful
"i wanna do keys and not being FORCED to do other content!!!!"
some specific guy that starts with a Z
Wish we had a term for mythic+ players' feelcrafting and napkin math
for all of its flaws, siren isle is one of the most alt friendly pieces of content ever released
ye
Related question: any way to get that vrykul lantern on hero track?
Feelnappingmath+
the what now
It's a discount skardyns for me and it apparently shows up in sim
like, in general, while TWW has flaws, if its about doing stuff on alts and getting them on a good gear level is the highest we ever had
bro did you even go to the quest quy on ur alts? this is my alt and I have a quest for it @grim vigil
there is a random drop warbound ring on the isles that is apperantly quiet good
atleast according to eleem
classic
this boi
Ah well
Was curious bc it let you 'upgrade' it in sim and had it marked at 610 or w.e
i would pay 1m gold a week if i could skipp EVERYTHING on my alts and just catch up instantly
Gon be real funny getting a proc immediately and then never seeing it again
that quest was fine sure, it was quick and easy, but if you didnt quest to that point on all your alts, you gotta farm rares, who the fuck comes up with this stuff?
I havent quested shit on this alt
I did the skip insta when I got here to get ring and first upgrade
and now I had this quest
well i didnt
relog
Tbf its still like 10min max on an alt
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6WmgJ7b6zWLBa3i3vdzc9N How come it wont suggest enchants/gems? I have overwrite/replace selected and cyrces has no enchant.
i love wow, but this isle was made by some fucking high intern
and I guess you can kill 1 rare to get it, as I just killed a rare on the way to hand in quest and got the upgrade item
im fast as fuck boi, who is michael phelps
phicael melps
merry christmas all
Bro i had a similar experience haha
Weekly 10, declined. "Just curious, why?"
"i hate rogues they all suck including you"
Okay 😦
I mean queuing dps is just a numbers game no need to take it personal
Flaming someone for getting rejected is lmao
based tbh
wow playerbase is 
Idk back when I raided I once got kicked from a raid solely because the leader didn’t like rogues
Just a random pug but it’s still so weird
did u see any flame? 😄 I just asked
Nothing personal haha was just genuinely curious
insta going ego mode is a cringe thing indeed
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
all i want for christmas is a whispyr pin telling me Sin is getting a 20% aura buff and a 30 second CD cloak

goated dagger
I got kicked from a panda remix raid as the tank for pulling something cause the raid leader didn’t like demon hunters LOL
with transmitter since its 1m30s CD, we probably still hold for deathmark windows right?
yes
Classic player base way more toxic than retail.
bad take bud. blizzard can do nothing wrong
Hate to pester, but does anyone have any clue why it's doing this?
Yeah I’m done living in the past, no more
Idk I just resimmed it https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gyKQ2A9iH7Scon471sMiyV
Seems fine
Do it again idk
(But also you don’t gotta sim enchants just throw a crit or mast on there)
As long as you don’t use cursed enchants it’s basically whatever
Oh okay, thank you Whispyr.
wHy U mAd BrO 
grats
I’m always mad
Teach me your ways homie

nice advicee
It was a statement of intent not a descriptive statement

guys is the method to get the gems we need the same as last week? Just do the event over and over and pray you get it?
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there are not "more gems" or something like that
if you have tgem all, you have them all
right i w asnt able to get our bis gems from the event because it's bugged and they're not on the vendor - is the method of acquisition the same event as last week?

yes ofc
ok thanks weirdo
lol
no i am
Fair, you take the crown
most stupid and chill
Mostly the same
I’m the least chill
Hello, Im new in wow and playing assassination rogue deathstalker which stats should I increase ?
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

and which embelish should I use when crafting item ?
!craft
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
To be fair, it doesnt really matter, but TLDR ascension + writhing for raid, double dawnthread for m+
ty
One more question and Im done, every site has differrent talent tree for deathstalker (wowhead and icy-veins) which one should I choose ?
For m+ i assume?
Yeah, this is an hard answer
there are more than ... 400 variations of m+ builds
because they all are within a few % of eachother
My advice: take the builds from wowhead.com
Icyveins guides are mostly with cross information between both writers
so icyveins isnt wrong
I personally just enjoy using wowhead more
kk thx
akshualy it was more then 500
:3
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is whyspers nameplates a platter mod?
yes
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anyone have a talent set up for m+ to take the shroud talent
something like this idk
remove stride/shadowrunner
and featherfoot
for rushed and stillshroud
what makes legendary skipper so much better than windsingers
It can proc war queens
am i reading war queens properly it gives them the proc and not you
Yes
so it does more overall for the group but less personal?
oh i see

And war queens is 1 proc per minute, legendary is 4
can you have multiple of the buff or the uptime just becomes "longer"
So it’s basically war queens at 36% value
The gems scale with Ilvl of ring too right? 150% seems static while the wind one goes up in value
Is it actually static?
not sure if actually static
ig if its 150% it would take into account the other gems scaling
im just confused and too stupid to understand sims since the windsinger is simmed at 1887 and the gem in my bags is currently at 2685
When you say “simmed at 1887”
Is it actually simming at 1887
Or are you just reading off of tooltips
i believe im reading off tooltips cause iam a simple man where would i see the actual stat being used
excellent
damn thats crazy its still that much lower in value compared to skippers
Ty for help
Np
If I am playing in a high end Mythic Raiding guild (working on council) how close to Deathstalker is Fatebound at this point and are there any real big differences in trinkets / weapons / enchants I should consider
Why would you consider different trinkets weapons or enchants
Also you could just sim it
I have simmed it, it comes out slightly ahead, but I am apprehensive and don't know if its real
It’s a couple % worse on queen and unplayable on council
Fatebound is slightly ahead IN SINGLE TARGET
The moment you have adds present or multiple targets
Fatebound is real bad
Ty @balmy condor and appreciate you, happy holidys
You as well
Frohe Weihnachten whispyr master gardener 
What are some fun specs this season
assassination rogue
assassination rogue
u could say it’s designed to be done like this even
Do you mind if I screenshot this?
go ahead
Thanks for permission
🫡
I really enjoyed your post
we love oli posts
Just got around to checking my vault. I currently have a mythic spyglass and i have a mythic ovinax egg in my vault. Egg sims .4% better. Is the egg annoying to play around?
.4% 
it’s pretty chungus imo
It is the only upgrade in the vault, even then its not huge
not as bad as transmitter but not good
Also. I didnt kill ovinax this week. How did i get egg in the vault is my question

I thought it was per week
no
already have chest and shoulders. Wrist would take the spot of crafted embelishment
So its either gem or egg lol
boom or doom
Hell yeah brother ur just like me fr
for raids ascension is better than dawnthread correct?
Every wednesday I want to quit WoW
about to join u since my vault will deterministically suck
i got a sacbrood for if i want to play some outlaw :x
Hey! Maybe a noob question. But is there an addon or site to use to see what specific spec or talent build for ur class that performs best in that specific dungeon? Depending on mob count, pulls etc? Because most likely ppl aint playing the same spec or setup in all dungs
Yup,another vault with 4 trinkets,no crystal,no hero track knife,no skadryns,no weapon
2nd tiem happening
most people dont swap much between dungeons
its usually just whether or not you take iron wire
more changes with key level than dungeon
individual talent choices matter less than execution
archon
also what subter said
Which Sim mode do we use to check items we don't have?
Slice. But I want to Sim for some items in my vault I don't have, and I'm not sure how to add those.
top gear
top gear/droptimizer
vector is a nice touch 😂
what do you guys usually pull on a single target boss in m+? It's so tough for me to finish over a mil and i wonder if im doing something wrong
Oh I see it now, thank you.
depends the fight,there are many factors that can kill ur dps
u could post a log here,many ppl to help
I am not sober enough to log review big dog I’m gonna keep it a buck
yoooooooo drunk christmas log reviews with papa quake
the absolute log reviewer


If someone asks me to dos a log review it will not end well
can u dos a log review for me
If you want misinformation


do u want my cloak
lol
fuckable
does DH have raid boss debuff that helps poison damage?
yes
Hey king I did a +4 and my damage just ain’t keepin up I think I have too much crit and not enough mastery, 615 equipped with double passive while I’m learning the spec, can you take a look?
not rly but u can open ur warmode so we can discuss

stupid vaults man
ive never gotten anything good,even now,its a socket
no wpn to trinkets
still no skadryns
its a seasonal disaster
What abt my warmode
450k honorable kills as a rogue beg to differ
2800exp x4 mglad rogue
ive buried rank 1s
Surely
🗡️
I am retired from pvp for a bit
kinda washed as well,used to be 2.6 range
yup df glad mount
i think it was cata,my absolute peak
but ive hit glad range several times
its not that hard
specially this time around,game favors casuals
jsut que,u'll get it eventually
Its draining to try rn
^ same
hey
we're done ;_;
Do u even need garr silence in sob
i've seen some plyaers using windsinger citrine instead of legendary skipper
is that an option too?
im curious who's memeing/trolling
we will have ppl asking this the following days anyway..

No
Windsingers is awful in comparison
I will not let m+ dumbfucks win this one
This is just simple math
I refuse
Legendary skippers is just better
You will not convince me that a 1.5% downgrade is somehow magically better
There are a bunch of extremely high resolution high fps gifs that I think are worsened for those factors. This is an example of the opposite where the low resolution makes this gif that much better.
Thank you
:)))
Which one is better for m+? Legendary or windsinger?
he just sayd legendary
Hahaha
Anyone knows how to unbug acquiring Stormbringer's Runed Citrine gem? I've done the event about 5-6times and the gem never drops
Merry xmas bb,keep doing what u do :3
also send help,i have to eat at my moms today
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Merry Christmas sap
Merry Christmas 
You too 
happy Christmas
Love how a simple thing turns into a shitshow because andys got nothing else to worry about
Maybe we will reach the survivability part of the cycle soon again
A socket for christmas 
😦
Enchant ur ring

















