#assassination

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spice spire
rotund oak
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ive read the new craft tech,i like it so much man

arctic socket
spice spire
rotund oak
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looks so cool

radiant raven
arctic socket
radiant raven
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I think he died

arctic socket
serene solar
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Here is my spike from the start of a NW, not depleted but please roast me for posting meters on my +11 key (Not gamer enough)

rotund oak
arctic socket
radiant raven
spice spire
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Because I see tank #3

serene solar
winged sun
arctic socket
spice spire
arctic socket
spice spire
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I’m onto you though SUSSY

rotund oak
# serene solar

idk why would u post details here fam,its not outlaw channel,we dont encourage egos here 🙂

spice spire
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I’m here to ruin egos

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(I’m actually factually dogshit)

serene solar
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tbh the DH buff is probably the biggest buff here

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for the shadow damage

serene solar
rotund oak
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makes sense

candid sun
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Homie is a masochist

spice spire
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Zeross same stuff but he’s silly

serene solar
rotund oak
spice spire
winged sun
spice spire
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Nah I disagree a bit

spice spire
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There’s a lot of ego

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But not purely

winged sun
spice spire
quartz locust
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citrines are the same for us for M+?

arctic socket
turbid scaffold
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Does the value of the new gem change with ilvl of the ring?
I got different value of secondary stats for 2 different toon even when the ring are same ilvl

rotund oak
coral ibex
solar wyvern
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What the hell is going on in here

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I'm calling my lawyer

rotund oak
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outlaw invasion

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we called reinforcements

arctic socket
royal lantern
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smh my head

royal lantern
spice spire
arctic socket
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Do it

spice spire
arctic socket
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12 hours in league

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Sheesh

spice spire
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You have a problem

coral ibex
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not d2…

spice spire
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I don’t think I’ve played a game for 12 hours straight

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In like

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Over a decade

candid sun
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I miss Destiny

coral ibex
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you miss a memory of destiny

royal lantern
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^

radiant raven
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Telesto...

candid sun
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I played pre-lightfall iirc

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It was alright

coral ibex
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the game has been irredeemably bad for many years

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multiple expansions

rotund oak
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wow isnt that far away

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have no clue what destiny is btw

royal lantern
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you dont know ANYTHING

coral ibex
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nah bruh you really dont get it lol

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bungie removed literally over half of the content in the game

rotund oak
royal lantern
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like, everytime people complain about stuff in wow, look at destiny and what bungie does and you see what REALLY bad decisions 24/7 look like kekdog

rotund oak
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that bad huh?

radiant raven
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Gotta vault it all.

coral ibex
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imagine wow vanilla thru wod just disappeared

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unable to interact with it in any way ever again

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that's what they did

radiant raven
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What if Blizz decided to put all tbc, wrath, cata and mop content in a box, and go "you can't play this" because of the size of the install disk

royal lantern
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dont forget that

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like, not how vanilla thru wod is in wow

radiant raven
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just putting the best raid in destiny in the bin

rotund oak
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what the

royal lantern
rotund oak
radiant raven
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They're undoing a lot of it I think? and they un-sunseted weapons so all the cool guns are back

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but it's very silly

royal lantern
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you paid for it, and in destiny there is no "patch power curve" like it is in wow, cus you can always infuse gear

aka you get a gun->you can use it forever by making its ilvl higher

they just deleted ~60% oif its content

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even thought you could still use its stuff

coral ibex
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they called it "sunsetting"

rotund oak
radiant raven
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They introduced a grossly powerful pair of pvp-earned weapons at one point (mountaintop and the smg I forget the name of) that were just.. insanely good in every bit of content.

rotund oak
radiant raven
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And then whoops, how do we stop players using them

coral ibex
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there was only 1 pvp gun that was relevant by the time they sunsetted

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they had already effective nerfed the mountaintop and the recluse

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it was only the sniper that gave you back ammo if you missed

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that was the only thing that was imba and they couldn't figure out

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they've since nerfed that gun too

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so every "problem" they intended to "solve" with sunsetting, wasn't solved by sunsetting, and required additional tuning

rotund oak
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so theyve basicly effectively nerfed/nuked every bit of old content

coral ibex
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yes

rotund oak
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and u paid it for nothing

coral ibex
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correct

rotund oak
radiant raven
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And for a long time (still?) it isn'te ven in the game.

coral ibex
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there is content i paid for that is removed from the game

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a lot of it

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multiple expansions, raids

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entire zones

radiant raven
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I think the Levithan raid is back in now (the best raid ever) but still, it was gone for ages.

unkempt solstice
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I'm about to assume i'm asking a stupid question, so sorry about this: I'm working on my assassination dps, and used wowanylyzer, it says i'm not using vanish enough (or at all) what does vanish do for me, and what should i be doing after I use it? (sorry about this)

rotund oak
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for m+ we vanish to reapply/extend dots

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same for raid for couple of builds

unkempt solstice
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it's raiding, and second boss inn palace, blood thingy

rotund oak
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bloodtwister

coral ibex
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bloodbound horror

unkempt solstice
coral ibex
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you vanish for MA at the end of your cooldowns

unkempt solstice
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there's the wowanylyzer. I'm doing something wrong, just donno what

spice spire
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WoW analyzer isn’t as updated

unkempt solstice
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I think I need more crit, but simc is telling me mastery is better, as far as chants/gems go, so not sure on that eiter.

radiant raven
prisma monolithBOT
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There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
  • Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
unkempt solstice
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I got that, that's why I simmed it 🙂

rotund oak
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idk why simc is telling u any specific stat

unkempt solstice
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it was telling me mastery enchants over crit or haste, that's all i meant.

rotund oak
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ah cool

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that makes sense

unkempt solstice
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so i should be using vanish immedaitly after the deathmark, shiv, kingsbane combo?

violet berry
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Why does the last boss of siege just suck my enrgy completely dry

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Moreso than any other single target

runic hinge
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lots of things to feint

royal lantern
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because you feint alot? idk

violet berry
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Ah

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You right

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I always forget to factor that

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Suppose we only need to feint pre water

rotund oak
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also u swap between two tendies

violet berry
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But the slam is livable

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Ya I try to tag up the other

ebon prism
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is there any diff between the writhing banding embellish + dawnthread or 2x dawnthread?

rotund oak
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what does ur sims say

ebon prism
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whats a sim?

rotund oak
ebon prism
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i mean it's 1+1 or 2x1... the math should be the same, no?

rotund oak
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its a model we input information to simulate the behaviour of a spec in a certain environment

pliant remnant
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Yeah, Sap

royal lantern
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writhing without patch is bad

pliant remnant
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Just do the math bro

runic hinge
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!simguide

prisma monolithBOT
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Guide to Simming yourself: https://www.wowhead.com/how-to-use-raidbots-sims-stat-weights

For more accurate results you should always sim yourself using Top Gear for gear you already have in your bags
or Droptimizer to see which content drops the biggest upgrade for you. Do not use Stat Weights sims to evaluate gear.

torn dome
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Bleeds on both tenties is a GG

rotund oak
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if bro is trolling is on a diff lvl

pliant remnant
ebon prism
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oh ty for the answer

pliant remnant
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So the difference between Writhing + Dawn vs 2x Dawn is 1x Dawn vs 2x Dawn

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The Writhing does nothing on its own

ebon prism
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thats what i was wondering

solar wyvern
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Proper answer??? What is this subtlety channel

ebon prism
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yeah that was 1000x more helpful than the "lol sim it"

rotund oak
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if there is anyway

pliant remnant
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I think people maybe got confused and thought you meant Ascension + Dawn vs 2x Dawn

solar wyvern
rotund oak
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i know what he meant,its just whatever,the diff is rly minimal if it exists

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thats why u ask the robot

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get ur answer

golden loom
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The robot wouldnt tell you the reason tho right

pliant remnant
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Writhing on its own is literally just not having an embellishment though Starege

golden loom
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It doesnt say "writhing is useless remove it"

pliant remnant
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Man, my right arrow key is double clicking

slate crown
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Sim is for when 2 effects push against each other

pliant remnant
slate crown
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if it's literally 0 vs something else

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that's that, you don't need to sim that

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you could have seen it i nthe sim but that wouldn't tell you that they don't interact

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just that one was better than the other and you may be left wondering why but not have an answer

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Especially given how small the impact any embellishments are

ebon prism
pliant remnant
rotund oak
brave comet
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for raids, which one is better

solar wyvern
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Ahem

rotund oak
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(i hate sacbrood but ill restrain myself)

ebon prism
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almost there

solar wyvern
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I used sacbrood for the entire tier until a crystal dropped in the vaulty, nice trinky

brave comet
pliant remnant
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You know what would be a nice trinky tomorrow

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a Myth track Skardyn's YEP

rotund oak
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plus i wont bother using it if its haste on equip vs a skadryns which is bigbutton trinket

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or crystal or knife

ebon prism
solar wyvern
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My character is almost done

brave comet
royal lantern
rotund oak
solar wyvern
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Just rash cloak, sikran neck, mists of tirna neck from vault left

rotund oak
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else ild say dont pick sacbrood i hate it

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😉

solar wyvern
rotund oak
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sub is going nuclear soon

solar wyvern
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The tier set for sub seems antifun, but very strong

rotund oak
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then half of them will come back because they dont understand how sub works

rotund oak
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if they buff sub a bit more its gonna be huge

solar wyvern
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I hope my prediction of sitting on finishers for 10-15 seconds to preserve streak and then dance at full stacks comes true

royal lantern
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why tf would they BUFF sub

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lol

brave comet
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HEH

solar wyvern
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You're saved buddy

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Crit chance feels better too, more cp, more spamming

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Brrr

vast patio
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It's come to my attention that I've been missing a key component of the assassination rogue arsenal. What's a good kingsbane total tracker lol

rotund oak
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questionable

vast patio
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not good enough.

solar wyvern
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Details meter

vast patio
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I want to look at the funny number

raven egret
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eh I have sacbrood, got it mythic early on, didn't get the others, gg, waiting for S2 and our hyper RNG tier set

solar wyvern
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Download msbt and make it pop kb numbers to fill your entire screen

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Increasing in size as it ramps

rotund oak
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bruh

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outlaws being outlaws

pliant remnant
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Upgrading to Myth track really won't even be that big of a deal, but...it's personal, y'know?

solar wyvern
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Who,re you callin an outlaw pardner

rotund oak
solar wyvern
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We are all

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Yellow men

pliant remnant
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piss bros

solar wyvern
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On details

rotund oak
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welll the yellow name

solar wyvern
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Ik im bugging u

rotund oak
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ik,i like getting bugged

solar wyvern
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Uwu

rotund oak
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its a payback

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uwu

solar wyvern
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Bzz bzz, I'm a bumblebee

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Ya like jazz?

worldly sail
ebon prism
rotund oak
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take cover boys,more pirates

ebon prism
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i cant decide whether i want to take 1 point of lethality or WAT instead for M+... i really like the double vanish

royal lantern
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then play the without a trace

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it doesnt make a number difference

solar wyvern
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They are so close in value its preference

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Only real choice imo is forced induction vs subterfuge

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Everything else is similar

ebon prism
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ooh i see

royal lantern
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assa is the OG "nothing really matters" spec in m+

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have IC+spatter+Crimson tempest+Kingsbane skilled, and the rest is kinda whatever lol

brave comet
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question, since my guild is progging court right now. in raidbots sims, should i use patchwork 2 bosses instead of 1?

royal lantern
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just play the normal raid build

keen spruce
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  • spatter
royal lantern
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nothing really special you do on court there

royal lantern
keen spruce
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u takin spatter on sikran? hmmge

brave comet
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talking about simming

rotund oak
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sikran and kyveza are purely ST

keen spruce
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and rash

brave comet
keen spruce
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u ain't touchin those little critters

royal lantern
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lmao

rotund oak
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meaningful dmg

keen spruce
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@brave comet I mean to what purpose

sonic zinc
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wtf is this

royal lantern
# brave comet

its still a 1 target fight, most dmg is happening on the dmg amps

keen spruce
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would you care if your're simming 1 or two bosses

royal lantern
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and you hit 1 guy most of the time

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not 2

keen spruce
rotund oak
pliant remnant
sonic zinc
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3 bad vaults and now this on christmas eve

rotund oak
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hohoho merry xmas

royal lantern
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cus we celebrate christmas on the 24th evening

sonic zinc
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lol

royal lantern
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and not 25th like everyone else

sonic zinc
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weirdos

worldly sail
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25th is an am*rican thing

earnest remnant
keen spruce
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Some americans also celebrate on the 24th but we call the 25th xmas

sonic zinc
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and christmas is an AMERICAN THING

pliant remnant
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It's 24th in a lot of places in Europe

sonic zinc
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WOOO AMERICA

royal lantern
earnest remnant
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A lot of Europe is the 24th

royal lantern
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iirc only germany and i think brazil do 24th evening?

worldly sail
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i can only speak for nordics but the big day is 24th here too

sonic zinc
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im decked tf out

earnest remnant
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Entire north Europe?

rotund oak
sonic zinc
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lol

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yea well i play all 3

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and gearing them al is a pain

worldly sail
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outlaw with dagger main hand petachad

rotund oak
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he swapped out gear

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bozo

sonic zinc
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duh

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lol

worldly sail
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wrong, he is parsing 100s with dagger outlaw

sonic zinc
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im parsing garbage as outlaw in mraid rn

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terrible

earnest remnant
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1 out of 1 player

sonic zinc
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game wants me to be a sin main

rotund oak
sonic zinc
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lol

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i never expected to get a 99 in myth raid, but i did as sin

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so

royal lantern
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tbh

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parses this tier

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are even more of a meme then ussual

sonic zinc
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ye

royal lantern
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cus of the buff you get every 2 weeks lol

sonic zinc
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i mean, i never expected to parse high with all the shenanigans this late in the tier

rotund oak
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u get a buff as in amidrassil buff?

restive bobcat
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The buff everyone gets every 2 weeks?

royal lantern
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like, do a clear with a higher buff before everyone else everytime it gets higher->you allready have a huge adventagr

sonic zinc
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we dont even raid til friday, so plenty of time for other sto reclear

earnest remnant
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Cursing in Thursday raiding mad

restive bobcat
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If ur gonna 99 it ur gonna 99 it

royal lantern
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and ye

restive bobcat
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Tuesday or Friday irrelevant

rotund oak
royal lantern
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if you raid on wednesday and grab the buff quick pre raid, you have a big adventage on parses allready

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aka

rotund oak
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that means i need to do all those to get my 95s

royal lantern
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more of a meme then ussual

earnest remnant
royal lantern
rotund oak
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😂

earnest remnant
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When a rank 4 is a 96

royal lantern
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bro, stealthi can get a 100 with -20% dmg done

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build different

earnest remnant
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Huh?

royal lantern
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only quake is more insane

earnest remnant
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How’s that a shots fired at me?

rotund oak
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stealthi is raccoon god

earnest remnant
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I don’t give 2 shits about parsing. I just play

rotund oak
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but u farm parses

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wdym

earnest remnant
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Doesent mean I care

royal lantern
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^

rotund oak
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thats crazy to me

royal lantern
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stealthi just plays big lol

balmy condor
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12 yards from center of target

earnest remnant
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I just play quick in and quick out

royal lantern
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and guild that has insane kill timers, which makes it even better

sonic zinc
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parsing is life

royal lantern
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but no degen "lol let me solo adds" shit 4 weeks in a row from him kekdog

earnest remnant
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We haven’t done any speed in a while now

rotund oak
ebon prism
elder kiln
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anyone has had this bug when casting t&t pulls mobs ?

royal lantern
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i didnt cast tricks for ages now, so no

balmy condor
tired oyster
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Their literal job

tall jay
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is there a way to "sim" the crafted dagger missives all at once to find the best one for the 2nd one?

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or do i have to run the sim one at a time

balmy condor
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Hit the plus on the dagger in top gear

humble verge
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whattehell

tall jay
ebon prism
fading vigil
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okay question, this is mid maxing kindve, in a scenario when i'm in the midst of kingsbane, and crimson temptest is about to fall off, let's say 3+ targets do i CT or Envonem

soft surge
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it just popped off in grim batol

gloomy heart
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what key level

soft surge
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only a 13

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boss dmg was shit but i controlled and destroyed every mob pack

balmy condor
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what a strange build

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where did you get it from

quartz locust
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
soft surge
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pulled it from the top gb parse on archon

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chinese guy

balmy condor
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wow

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that's so crazy

mild rock
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ring can hit 649 this week?

soft surge
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xD

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cool build

coral ibex
mild rock
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someone said that there is a rare that can drop an item to make it 649?

coral ibex
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someone is probably full of shit

balmy condor
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just faction change 8x

soft surge
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i wonder if next seasons dungeons will allow for more of this build

balmy condor
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brother its been the recommended build for lower keys for nearly 3 years now

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wdym more of this build

soft surge
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only seen it played in gb

balmy condor
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okay, and?

soft surge
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id like to play it more

balmy condor
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who has you at gunpoint to not play it in other dungeons

soft surge
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the overall dmg window at the end of the key

balmy condor
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but you just said its a ton of overall

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it's literally what you want

soft surge
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in gb

balmy condor
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why not in other dungeons

soft surge
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but yes im gunna try it elsewhere

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this week

balmy condor
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there ya go

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breaking free from archon and playing the game for yourself

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I'm proud

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that's character development

fervent rune
soft surge
balmy condor
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the left one is really good and the right one sucks ass

soft surge
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why did the chinese brother use it

balmy condor
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cause they don't have access to western theorycrafting and are as a region completely disconnected from our guides and information

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they are primarily just copying streamers

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and the streamers cook awful shit all the time

fallow canopy
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Justice for the 🦀 build

soft surge
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our eastern friends make up a large % of top parses on like every spec

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majority

royal lantern
soft surge
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yea they often use wacky builds and gear

runic hinge
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King crab build

gloomy hinge
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my ring is only 642

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what am i missing

royal lantern
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very often its just padding like crazy/killed the boss 40x and got a lucky pull

gloomy hinge
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is there a quest somewhere or is it the faction change exploit people have done?

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Its not reset for me yet

runic hinge
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There’s a quest on the island

fallow canopy
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With a purple marker

gloomy hinge
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🤔

royal lantern
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they made the new map markers for quest specifically so people know which one are important

balmy condor
royal lantern
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purple quest marker = something that is important cus its a gear/power thing

balmy condor
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people said the same thing about mythic court earlier this patch and like 12/20 of the kills were from one mfer who did all 12 of those kills in 1 day

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just selling carries over and over and over

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parsing is not skill

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it is luck, knowledge, and repetition

runic hinge
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I have neither

royal lantern
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i got a 99 on multiple heroic fights cus i went cringebound and flipped high

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very skill

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much knowledge

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to make tails #3 dmg done

fallow canopy
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Imagine next patch

cursive lark
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what's up guys, is there anyone here around 3k io that could answer some questions about assassin?

royal lantern
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why do you need 3k rio dracthyr_kek

cursive lark
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it's just a way for me to vet their knowledge is all

balmy condor
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💀

royal lantern
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bro ask the question

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and whisp you have no knowledge

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get out

balmy condor
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sorry mb

lethal arrow
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we listen to this guy?

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hes not even 3k io

balmy condor
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good enough for casual, not good enough for random discord question

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is what it is

royal lantern
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checkmate

cursive lark
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sure. how valuable is haste? is there a soft cap atm? (i'm not finding this info anywhere). also, are we pumping out envenoms or are we trying to epi the buff?

royal lantern
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!stats

prisma monolithBOT
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There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
  • Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
lethal arrow
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that is not a 3k io question

royal lantern
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that answers the first bunch

balmy condor
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haste is good in single target, and really bad in aoe

royal lantern
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haste loses value in aoe over other stats

cursive lark
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bro, i don't need heat for this. i have no idea who anyone here is or what they actually know. didn't mean to offend anyone

royal lantern
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and with twist the knife "pumping envenoms" and "extend the buff for max uptime" is basically the same tbh, just spam it in cds

weary spear
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I still think it’s absurd that blizz devs making 500k a year can’t come into the office today to fix their stupid bugs. Lazy mfers

royal lantern
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outside of cds you dont really do dmg anyway

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yes, LAZY devs, go work on christmas eve

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smh my head, why dont they do that??

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and im pretty sure they dont make 500k a year OMEGAKEKW

fallow canopy
lethal arrow
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its actually 5000k

worldly dock
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Was boosting 2 days ago some 3k rio guys … he just bought all boost and got 3k rio almost
So it’s not about rio nowadays.. everyone can get there

lethal arrow
#

there are 3k io players who do not know what a dispel is

royal lantern
#

like, you literally can fail upwards

#

most people even do that

#

there is no decay/score lost, so fail those 30 keys in a row, get 1 group with stacked players that carry you->number goes up and now you act like some bigshot m+ pro

lethal arrow
#

there are 3k io players are who 4/8M rn stuck on ovinax

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its not really indicative of anything

balmy condor
#

ovi'nax is just m+

gentle rover
#

I mean being stuck 4/8 is never a one player problem lol

cursive lark
#

aright yeah i get it. thanks for the info

royal lantern
#

3k is on the higher side, but 3k is also just a point that many people just bruteforce like crazy without REALLY knowing what they do

golden loom
#

I am stuck 2.5k io and 4/8 mythic by choice

balmy condor
#

yeah I think the morale of the story is next time someone shows up they should ask for 3.2k io

solar wyvern
lethal arrow
#

4/8M is better than 6/8M

balmy condor
royal lantern
solar wyvern
#

Sure but you can almost always answer it with a simmy sim

balmy condor
#

yeah but m+ players are inherently not trusting sims

#

so they ask REAL PLAYERS

solar wyvern
#

Dslice sim for rogue is quite good iirc

#

Oh

balmy condor
#

who will give the answer they simmed

fading vigil
#

what would you do different

royal lantern
#

get better gear

lethal arrow
#

more myth track pieces

golden loom
tired oyster
#

More cowbell

royal lantern
#

i mean, what are we supposed to say

#

not all items are max possible ilvl->best way to get more dmg

#

that is the best way to get more dmg

golden loom
#

ye it just sounds kinda funny

vital haven
royal lantern
vital haven
limber lion
#

Hello guys, any 4k rio people here? I need help choosing item from great vault, sim days myth skardyn is best but idk i saw a lot of people playing transmitter lately so i was thinking maybe skardyn is dead now and we shouldnt trust sims. Any help pls? Only reply if your 4k+ rio btw no trolls pls

balmy condor
# fading vigil also https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gPtr7Cnb61jjS7NYcmCHAP can you see i...

I gotchu, here's your improved sim, just changed a lil talent around super free do not look at the dagger do not look at the dagger do not look at the dagger do not look at the dagger do not look at the dagger do not look at the dagger do not look at the dagger do not look at the dagger do not look at the dagger do not look at the dagger do not look at the dagger do not look at the dagger do not look at the dagger do not look at the dagger

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jy2xRhQoMhCP2odbC5V2iW

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simple easy gains

fading vigil
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would be extremely nice haha

golden loom
fallow canopy
limber lion
fallow canopy
limber lion
#

Oh wow! I spent 700k also on changing emchants every week because i ser many streamers playing different enchants and xhanging them up

#

Anyways

candid sun
#

790

limber lion
#

Merry christmas

candid sun
#

Homie timetraveled

limber lion
#

Yeah it's the uear 1914, things are looking rough man

grim vigil
#

can i buy the upgrade citrine somewhere or do i have to farm it on all 8 characters

#

dahell

candid sun
#

Get it once from drops or turtleboi, can get it across all toons from vendors

golden loom
#

yo I saw Critcake was running these enchants for M+, do we not want to run radiant power anymore?

balmy condor
#

you buy it on main and then transfer

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they're warbound

grim vigil
fallow canopy
#

Not sure tho

balmy condor
grim vigil
#

the one that upgrades the ring +3

balmy condor
#

that's a weekly quest bud

grim vigil
#

and how do i get it on alts if i didnt quest on them

balmy condor
#

max is 645 this week

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you kill rares

fallow canopy
#

Look for the purple exclamation mark on camp

grim vigil
#

I DID IT ON MY MAIN

balmy condor
#

then kill rares

grim vigil
#

ok

#

sucks

balmy condor
#

sucks to have to kill 5-10 min worth of rares?

solar wyvern
#

Hey whispyr how so i kill rares? Sim it? Or get to 3k

balmy condor
#

yeah sounds awful

royal lantern
#

some specific guy that starts with a Z

limber lion
#

Wish we had a term for mythic+ players' feelcrafting and napkin math

balmy condor
#

for all of its flaws, siren isle is one of the most alt friendly pieces of content ever released

royal lantern
#

ye

candid sun
#

Related question: any way to get that vrykul lantern on hero track?

limber lion
#

Feelnappingmath+

balmy condor
#

the what now

candid sun
#

It's a discount skardyns for me and it apparently shows up in sim

royal lantern
#

like, in general, while TWW has flaws, if its about doing stuff on alts and getting them on a good gear level is the highest we ever had

golden loom
#

bro did you even go to the quest quy on ur alts? this is my alt and I have a quest for it @grim vigil

royal lantern
#

atleast according to eleem

balmy condor
#

classic

candid sun
royal lantern
#

oh ye trinket, not ring

#

sorry

balmy condor
#

yeh not gonna be able to find a higher ilvl version of that

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that's world drop ilvl

candid sun
#

Ah well

#

Was curious bc it let you 'upgrade' it in sim and had it marked at 610 or w.e

grim vigil
#

i would pay 1m gold a week if i could skipp EVERYTHING on my alts and just catch up instantly

limber lion
#

Bad luck protection on a trinket?

#

That's nuts

golden loom
#

the quest is litearlly just swimming giga fast in the water for 2 min

#

its fun

limber lion
#

Gon be real funny getting a proc immediately and then never seeing it again

grim vigil
golden loom
#

I havent quested shit on this alt

#

I did the skip insta when I got here to get ring and first upgrade

#

and now I had this quest

grim vigil
#

well i didnt

royal lantern
#

relog

grim vigil
#

no triangle quest on my alts even tho i didnt everything on my main

#

ok relogg

golden loom
#

its not a triangle quest

#

its a regular quest for alts

grim vigil
#

ah shit

#

i c

#

i went through this before with intro quest 😄

fallow canopy
#

Tbf its still like 10min max on an alt

calm grail
grim vigil
#

i love wow, but this isle was made by some fucking high intern

golden loom
#

and I guess you can kill 1 rare to get it, as I just killed a rare on the way to hand in quest and got the upgrade item

grim vigil
#

there is the quest now

#

relogg helped

royal lantern
#

90% of the time it does if you cant see something

grim vigil
#

im fast as fuck boi, who is michael phelps

candid sun
#

phicael melps

junior yoke
#

merry christmas all

solar wyvern
#

Bro i had a similar experience haha

#

Weekly 10, declined. "Just curious, why?"

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"i hate rogues they all suck including you"

#

Okay 😦

fallow canopy
#

I mean queuing dps is just a numbers game no need to take it personal

candid sun
#

Flaming someone for getting rejected is lmao

royal lantern
hollow river
#

wow playerbase is pain

royal lantern
#

idk

#

i legit had not really many negative moments

#

and i play since tbc lol

hollow river
#

I’ve had more than I can count

#

But we can attribute 90% of that to pvp players OMEGAKEKW

royal lantern
#

i mean yeha sure

#

pvp

#

there is a reason why most ignore it

hollow river
#

Idk back when I raided I once got kicked from a raid solely because the leader didn’t like rogues

#

Just a random pug but it’s still so weird

junior yoke
solar wyvern
normal mist
#

insta going ego mode is a cringe thing indeed

rich parrot
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
split veldt
#

all i want for christmas is a whispyr pin telling me Sin is getting a 20% aura buff and a 30 second CD cloak

pliant remnant
#

20% aura buff so it can be so ridiculous it gets a 25% aura nerf a week later

runic hinge
pure star
#

with transmitter since its 1m30s CD, we probably still hold for deathmark windows right?

spice surge
#

yes

slate crown
royal lantern
#

thats why you dont play classic

#

among 204561 other reasons kekman

scarlet barn
calm grail
slate crown
balmy condor
#

Seems fine

#

Do it again idk

#

(But also you don’t gotta sim enchants just throw a crit or mast on there)

#

As long as you don’t use cursed enchants it’s basically whatever

calm grail
#

Oh okay, thank you Whispyr.

keen spruce
runic hinge
keen spruce
#

Happy crimuh assas

spice spire
runic hinge
#

Just move on

#

It’s easy

spice spire
potent lance
runic hinge
#

You’re welcome

#

Nothing in my past haunts me

slate crown
austere bramble
#

guys is the method to get the gems we need the same as last week? Just do the event over and over and pray you get it?

raven snow
#

/wa

#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
royal lantern
#

there are not "more gems" or something like that

#

if you have tgem all, you have them all

austere bramble
#

right i w asnt able to get our bis gems from the event because it's bugged and they're not on the vendor - is the method of acquisition the same event as last week?

austere bramble
#

ok thanks weirdo

slate crown
#

lol

normal mist
#

Chillest guy RH

humble verge
#

no i am

normal mist
#

Fair, you take the crown

humble verge
#

most stupid and chill

normal mist
#

Mostly the same

humble verge
#

;-;

#

true

runic hinge
#

I’m the least chill

heady elbow
#

Hello, Im new in wow and playing assassination rogue deathstalker which stats should I increase ?

normal mist
#

!stats

prisma monolithBOT
#

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
  • Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
heady elbow
#

!stats

prisma monolithBOT
#

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
  • Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
normal mist
heady elbow
#

and which embelish should I use when crafting item ?

normal mist
#

!craft

prisma monolithBOT
#

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

normal mist
#

To be fair, it doesnt really matter, but TLDR ascension + writhing for raid, double dawnthread for m+

heady elbow
#

ty

#

One more question and Im done, every site has differrent talent tree for deathstalker (wowhead and icy-veins) which one should I choose ?

normal mist
#

For m+ i assume?

heady elbow
#

yes

#

and for raid also

normal mist
#

Yeah, this is an hard answer

#

there are more than ... 400 variations of m+ builds

#

because they all are within a few % of eachother

#

Icyveins guides are mostly with cross information between both writers

#

so icyveins isnt wrong

#

I personally just enjoy using wowhead more

heady elbow
#

kk thx

royal lantern
#

:3

normal mist
#

I was not wrong

#

just not accurate :3

runic hinge
#

:3

spring moat
umbral sierra
#

is whyspers nameplates a platter mod?

royal lantern
#

yes

umbral sierra
#

!nameplate

#

do we have a link to them?

royal lantern
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
humble verge
#

damn

#

no last 10 for my alt

#

sadge

fading vigil
#

anyone have a talent set up for m+ to take the shroud talent

humble verge
#

remove stride/shadowrunner

#

and featherfoot

#

for rushed and stillshroud

snow kindle
#

what makes legendary skipper so much better than windsingers

balmy condor
#

It can proc war queens

snow kindle
#

am i reading war queens properly it gives them the proc and not you

balmy condor
#

Yes

snow kindle
#

so it does more overall for the group but less personal?

balmy condor
#

No

#

Because they are also proccing war queens

#

You’re all proccing onto each other

snow kindle
#

oh i see

winged sun
balmy condor
#

And war queens is 1 proc per minute, legendary is 4

snow kindle
#

can you have multiple of the buff or the uptime just becomes "longer"

balmy condor
#

So it’s basically war queens at 36% value

winged sun
#

Wait if i want to pad for myself what do i play Zerossthinking

#

Wind? Zerossthinking

snow kindle
#

The gems scale with Ilvl of ring too right? 150% seems static while the wind one goes up in value

winged sun
#

Is it actually static?

snow kindle
#

not sure if actually static

#

ig if its 150% it would take into account the other gems scaling

winged sun
#

ofcourse it would

dawn heath
#

god damn

#

still don't know what im doing on this class

snow kindle
#

im just confused and too stupid to understand sims since the windsinger is simmed at 1887 and the gem in my bags is currently at 2685

balmy condor
#

Is it actually simming at 1887

#

Or are you just reading off of tooltips

snow kindle
balmy condor
#

Link the sim

#

It’s in the html

balmy condor
#

Ya looks fine

snow kindle
#

excellent

#

damn thats crazy its still that much lower in value compared to skippers

#

Ty for help

balmy condor
#

Np

timber pawn
#

If I am playing in a high end Mythic Raiding guild (working on council) how close to Deathstalker is Fatebound at this point and are there any real big differences in trinkets / weapons / enchants I should consider

strange python
#

Why would you consider different trinkets weapons or enchants

#

Also you could just sim it

timber pawn
#

I have simmed it, it comes out slightly ahead, but I am apprehensive and don't know if its real

balmy condor
#

It’s a couple % worse on queen and unplayable on council

#

Fatebound is slightly ahead IN SINGLE TARGET

#

The moment you have adds present or multiple targets

#

Fatebound is real bad

timber pawn
#

Ty @balmy condor and appreciate you, happy holidys

balmy condor
#

You as well

strange python
#

Frohe Weihnachten whispyr master gardener peepoglad

gloomy heart
#

What are some fun specs this season

novel star
#

assassination rogue

runic hinge
#

assassination rogue

novel star
#

enhancement shaman

#

if you like numbers

bronze pike
novel star
#

u can play ret with a cigarette in one hand and a beer in the other

#

it’s peak

novel star
dapper cradle
novel star
#

go ahead

dapper cradle
#

Thanks for permission

novel star
#

🫡

dapper cradle
#

I really enjoyed your post

novel star
#

no problem man i’m a big fan of posting

#

a posting type of guy really

coral ibex
#

we love oli posts

silk sundial
#

Just got around to checking my vault. I currently have a mythic spyglass and i have a mythic ovinax egg in my vault. Egg sims .4% better. Is the egg annoying to play around?

dapper cradle
#

.4% HOLY

silk sundial
#

It is the only upgrade in the vault, even then its not huge

novel star
#

not as bad as transmitter but not good

silk sundial
#

Also. I didnt kill ovinax this week. How did i get egg in the vault is my question

coral ibex
#

because that doesn't matter

#

you killed ovinax before

novel star
silk sundial
#

I thought it was per week

coral ibex
#

no

silk sundial
#

already have chest and shoulders. Wrist would take the spot of crafted embelishment

#

So its either gem or egg lol

gloomy heart
#

boom or doom

spice spire
brave comet
#

for raids ascension is better than dawnthread correct?

flint star
#

Every wednesday I want to quit WoW

rotund oak
#

about to join u since my vault will deterministically suck

polar rampart
#

i got a sacbrood for if i want to play some outlaw :x

obsidian galleon
#

Hey! Maybe a noob question. But is there an addon or site to use to see what specific spec or talent build for ur class that performs best in that specific dungeon? Depending on mob count, pulls etc? Because most likely ppl aint playing the same spec or setup in all dungs

rotund oak
#

Yup,another vault with 4 trinkets,no crystal,no hero track knife,no skadryns,no weapon

#

2nd tiem happening

coral ibex
#

its usually just whether or not you take iron wire

#

more changes with key level than dungeon

#

individual talent choices matter less than execution

patent snow
#

Which Sim mode do we use to check items we don't have?

rotund oak
#

depends on what u wanna sim for

#

patchwreck for ST

#

dslice for m+

patent snow
#

Slice. But I want to Sim for some items in my vault I don't have, and I'm not sure how to add those.

coral ibex
#

top gear

rotund oak
#

top gear/droptimizer

coral ibex
rotund oak
mild rock
#

what do you guys usually pull on a single target boss in m+? It's so tough for me to finish over a mil and i wonder if im doing something wrong

patent snow
#

Oh I see it now, thank you.

rotund oak
#

u could post a log here,many ppl to help

spice spire
rotund oak
#

speak of the devil

#

here is ur man

coral ibex
#

yoooooooo drunk christmas log reviews with papa quake

rotund oak
#

the absolute log reviewer

coral ibex
rotund oak
spice spire
#

If someone asks me to dos a log review it will not end well

winged sun
#

can u dos a log review for me

spice spire
#

If you want misinformation

ember mural
winged sun
keen spruce
#

anyone wanna do 4/8m?

#

we don't have a roguemn

#

nvm

winged sun
#

What do u guys think of this mouse

cerulean nest
#

lol

winged sun
#

Should be good i think

#

Wasd is abit weird but works fine

gloomy heart
weary spear
#

does DH have raid boss debuff that helps poison damage?

coral ibex
#

yes

balmy condor
spice spire
#

hey whispyur

#

fuck off

rotund oak
#

stupid vaults man

#

ive never gotten anything good,even now,its a socket

#

no wpn to trinkets

#

still no skadryns

#

its a seasonal disaster

gloomy heart
#

What abt my warmode

rotund oak
#

activate and head outside stonevault

#

🗡️

gloomy heart
#

LOL

#

Dont think you want that

rotund oak
#

450k honorable kills as a rogue beg to differ

gloomy heart
#

2800exp x4 mglad rogue

rotund oak
#

ive buried rank 1s

gloomy heart
#

Surely

rotund oak
#

🗡️

gloomy heart
#

I am retired from pvp for a bit

rotund oak
#

kinda washed as well,used to be 2.6 range

gloomy heart
#

Got the last GOOD glad mount and went pve

#

shits sexy

rotund oak
#

yup df glad mount

gloomy heart
#

Slands was my peak

#

Def most fun ive ever had

rotund oak
#

i think it was cata,my absolute peak

#

but ive hit glad range several times

#

its not that hard

#

specially this time around,game favors casuals

#

jsut que,u'll get it eventually

gloomy heart
#

Its draining to try rn

rotund oak
#

im just trolling on alts msotly now,its whatever

#

working alot,RL > wow

gloomy heart
#

^ same

runic hinge
keen spruce
gloomy heart
#

Do u even need garr silence in sob

worldly dock
#

i've seen some plyaers using windsinger citrine instead of legendary skipper

#

is that an option too?

gloomy heart
#

Ig so

#

Rarely anyone uses

rotund oak
#

im curious who's memeing/trolling

#

we will have ppl asking this the following days anyway..

gloomy heart
rotund oak
#

yup we are F'd

#

casualdaddy testing stuff

runic hinge
gloomy heart
#

i love lfg!

#

dhs who die to the same thing 4 times ina row!

balmy condor
#

Windsingers is awful in comparison

#

I will not let m+ dumbfucks win this one

#

This is just simple math

#

I refuse

#

Legendary skippers is just better

#

You will not convince me that a 1.5% downgrade is somehow magically better

slate crown
potent lance
#

Which one is better for m+? Legendary or windsinger?

worldly dock
#

he just sayd legendary

balmy condor
#

He’s trolling it’s fine

#

Ignore it

worldly dock
#

sorry i meant windsinger

#

😄

potent lance
#

Hahaha

tame kelp
#

Anyone knows how to unbug acquiring Stormbringer's Runed Citrine gem? I've done the event about 5-6times and the gem never drops

balmy condor
#

Pins

#

It just be like that

rotund oak
#

also send help,i have to eat at my moms today

gloomy heart
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
runic hinge
balmy condor
dawn seal
#

5163gchemoji13yes happy Christmas

grim jay
#

Merry christmas my little mental friends

grim jay
#

Maybe we will reach the survivability part of the cycle soon again

golden loom
#

A socket for christmas pepe_sad

desert wren
winged sun