#assassination

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grim jay
spice spire
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So I try to remember most things about them

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Yeah I just help the poor dog

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That ain’t me

arctic socket
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Someone hop on poe2 n carry me through this boss

spice spire
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Which boss

arctic socket
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End of act 1

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Uber

spice spire
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Dog no shot you’re being bullied by a furry

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It’s okay I’m still a pleb going through act 3 🙂

arctic socket
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My gear is dog piss bad

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😦

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I also deiced to go bow n now I’m big struggling

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I have to hit something 7 times to kill normal mobs

spice spire
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Same - my gear being bad that is. Poison shot is a weird build and I’m in between as well.

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Okay I’m one shotting normals

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That’s rough

arctic socket
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Fr

grim jay
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and pull every trick to earn money

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so you are still helping the poor

spice spire
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I mean I get paid like shit

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But that doesn’t help the feel good chemicals because I hate myselfSmileDog

dapper cradle
spice spire
earnest remnant
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you are welcome

spice spire
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Genuinely

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Lmfao

earnest remnant
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you havent met me

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im the number 1 hater

spice spire
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And yet you’re nice to me

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Curious

urban forum
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anyone having a hard time getting conquest?

earnest remnant
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keep em guessing

spice spire
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Nah I think you’re just a nice lad

earnest remnant
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Im really not KEKW

waxen oyster
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play rated

subtle tundra
left radish
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Do Assassination Rogues profit from Chaos Brand?

humble verge
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i might be trolling

waxen oyster
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Nature damage yes

humble verge
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not running ironwire

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in 15 dbs

left radish
subtle tundra
waxen oyster
humble verge
waxen oyster
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Remove feint energy cost

humble verge
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yea ok @subtle tundra this tank is regarded so i have to

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he wants to pull casters

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subtle tundra
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is that the middle pull?

humble verge
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na

subtle tundra
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around the fountain?\

humble verge
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kindof

subtle tundra
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you dont need iron wire for that

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tormenting beam you can cancel with CC

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the guy that bolts is important to kick

humble verge
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yeah

spice spire
humble verge
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2 shots kme

subtle tundra
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isnt 1 only in there

earnest remnant
spice spire
humble verge
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damn

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i died twice

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on 2nd pack

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for no reason

subtle tundra
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probably ninja pulled a caster thats supposed to be in RP

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and got casted on

humble verge
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beam

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bolt

subtle tundra
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did you feint it

humble verge
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y

subtle tundra
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skill issue regardless

humble verge
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3,3

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cant heal me

subtle tundra
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buddy you got bolted

humble verge
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yea

subtle tundra
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thats not a healer issue

humble verge
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nah

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i sued doublefeint

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still died

subtle tundra
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buddy you got bolted

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thats a kick

humble verge
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had already kicked commander

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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not mine

subtle tundra
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yep

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but why blame healer

humble verge
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not ocne died

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there before

subtle tundra
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idk youre just trying to blame someone

royal lantern
subtle tundra
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move on

humble verge
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yea

arctic socket
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Fuck the healer always their fault

subtle tundra
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why did you not health pot

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if you were low hp and had bolt

arctic socket
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Why didn’t you vanish the cast?

spice spire
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Are you on one today varas?

subtle tundra
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why not cloak, yea you feinted, but feint is 20%

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on a health pot?

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no....

spice spire
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Nah on a ripper

arctic socket
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I asked if he was angy

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He said no

spice spire
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Honestly

arctic socket
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But seems like it

spice spire
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Don’t think he’s even angry

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Sometimes he’s just on one

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It’s this or horny

subtle tundra
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im tryina help him

arctic socket
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Him

spice spire
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He’s also right

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Objectively

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Which is weird to say ngl

subtle tundra
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that mentality is not gonna give him score

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ermmmm shit healer

arctic socket
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Varas being right?

spice spire
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Nah

humble verge
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no

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im just irritated

subtle tundra
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when you could've done something you avoid the death

humble verge
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100%

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sure kicks were up

spice spire
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Varas being super irritated he usually gets irrational but he’s right. The only way to improve is to take Blame for what you can control

arctic socket
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If you uninstall it would have prevented a death

subtle tundra
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yea if it was a premade group and you have assigned kicks, dumbass was supposed to kick and didnt, and you died
sure

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fuck him

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he is a shitter

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he killed you

arctic socket
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Varas

subtle tundra
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meowmeowmeow?

arctic socket
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I like the turtle with Santa hat

humble verge
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SO MANY OVERLAPPED KICKS

subtle tundra
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if you havent noticed, he is doing lines on the back of another turt

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a G

arctic socket
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Off the ass

spice spire
subtle tundra
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very very close

royal lantern
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you are the hat

arctic socket
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Festive n fluffy

prisma scaffold
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hi guys what is the build right now if we are running iron wire?

spice spire
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There’s several!

prisma scaffold
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is there a recommended one for keys 12 and above?

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i am having to run ironwire cuz of bear tank friend

coral ibex
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just copy it off wowhead

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if you have to ask just copy wowhead

humble verge
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this is mine

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for 15s

humble verge
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though im running double vanish cause of pugs

prisma scaffold
# humble verge pretty standard 👆

ohh thank you so much. Is TTk better than sanguine blades as i see in your build u dropped it. Sorry if its dumb question, still new to rogue thts why

royal lantern
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not really

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they do basically the same

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assa has 500+ "m+ builds" (and the number is not made up, its literally over 500 rn) that all do more or less the same in the end

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all you do is shifting the dmg around slightly

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but the end result is almost the excat same

humble verge
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before it actually procs

candid sun
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I guess iron wire as well

subtle tundra
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Huh

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What's this misinformation

royal lantern
subtle tundra
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Holy shir

royal lantern
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mate, most of SD value is the bleed dmg lol

novel star
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me when i look at the name of the talent and then look for that name on details

solar wyvern
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SD is very usable, its just normally outvalued by SB or ttk

novel star
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and don’t think about anything else

royal lantern
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like, if anything SB is the controversial talent

solar wyvern
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Depends on key ofc

royal lantern
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not SD

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SD is just a generic 10% dmg amp on all bleeds, thats good

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no conditions, nothing special, just 10% more dmg on rupture/garrote/CT (and CT is the big part there)

prisma scaffold
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depending on dungeon with heavy aoe or less aoe?

subtle tundra
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SB is a bad st talent

royal lantern
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meanwhile SB has conditions and actually some minor negative impact on ST dmg

subtle tundra
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SD is pog cause it's good st good aoe

novel star
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you can play whatever you want but sanguine blades does nothing but hurt you on st so it feels cringe

royal lantern
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you dont play assa for st in dungeons

humble verge
royal lantern
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talents wont change that

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assa ST in dungeons is just kinda oof

humble verge
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SB will always > SD for me

subtle tundra
royal lantern
novel star
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i love feeling

subtle tundra
royal lantern
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what i mean is more like "swapping 1-2 talents wont suddenly make your ST high"

novel star
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the 21 year old feelcrafter

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i’m gonna feeeeel

humble verge
novel star
grim jay
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@subtle tundra

humble verge
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lmao

royal lantern
humble verge
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@subtle tundra tank kinda missed a pack and we just didnt time the key sadge

coral ibex
humble verge
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we did finish it up, and i thought it was his but

prisma scaffold
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so is sd more of a aoe talent? i just want to understand which is which so that i can choose acoording to dungeons

humble verge
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we kinda bricked someone elses key that now dont have 14db topkek

grim jay
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its necessary for life

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ask varas

solar wyvern
subtle tundra
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Ttk is prio and st

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Suck my toes

royal lantern
subtle tundra
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Not you specifically

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All of you here

royal lantern
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too late

coral ibex
solar wyvern
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Varas I'd suck your toes but I'm too far away. Perhaps an air kiss?

royal lantern
subtle tundra
coral ibex
subtle tundra
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Pop off

grim jay
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you dont even enjoy the feet

subtle tundra
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Wdym I'm joking jt rn

grim jay
subtle tundra
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Jorking

humble verge
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmf

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slice says

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sb is 60k more dps

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than sd

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D:

coral ibex
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i only run sb in low keys and with sd

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if you run sb without sd it seems not so good

humble verge
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i run SB to troll pugs

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maybe i should actually

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sb and sd

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in a 15 db

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just to try

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over TTK

subtle tundra
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Lol over ttk

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Don't în db

humble verge
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yeah

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actively trolling

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varas

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you cant tell me what to do

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i will troll

subtle tundra
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Nice

humble verge
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man

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theres a 15db up in lfg

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but i got dinner in 20

novel star
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quake :(

spice spire
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Sup homie

novel star
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lock in man

spice spire
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Buddy I’ve been locked in all am

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Just got to my desk

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And kinda got rocked

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Got too silly mb

humble verge
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is there anything specific i need in alchemy to get 2h flask duration?

novel star
humble verge
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i member in legion and SL you just needed alch 1

spice spire
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Will do papi

novel star
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💅

royal lantern
humble verge
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yea

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found out

royal lantern
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gotta check those

humble verge
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but i dont have acuity

royal lantern
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not an alchemist

humble verge
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to purchase points :(

royal lantern
humble verge
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ah

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ill do it later

royal lantern
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enchanter/bs 💪

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good passive gold

spice spire
humble verge
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i boost

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when im in dire need of gold

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i still have 600k

spice spire
royal lantern
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crafting radiant power r3 one time a day

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with r2 materials+concentration

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10k every day happybear

spice spire
candid sun
humble verge
candid sun
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In Cata you had the lil self buffing flask

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the personal hr lasting one or w/e

humble verge
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idfk :D

royal lantern
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no

candid sun
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RIP

humble verge
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never played cata

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cata stupid expac

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:D

royal lantern
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you can just take a passive effect that makes flask have 2x durtation

humble verge
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no cats in cata :D

candid sun
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Like each proff had some lil self buff you got from most professions

neat patio
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man can get that stormbringer more than 40 kills

candid sun
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LW had leg armor kit, alchemy had flasks, JC had unique gems or smth

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Etc.

royal lantern
candid sun
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Ah

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RIP

royal lantern
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so peeps dont get forced to play specific profs

humble verge
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just off AH

royal lantern
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cus it was kinda stupid that you HAD to play a prof cus it was a gain

grim jay
grim jay
sullen hollow
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how can they not fix that event

spice spire
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“Because fuck em that’s why” blizzard devs, probably

abstract parrot
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do we need a professions tab?

balmy condor
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A what

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That’s already a thing, no?

royal lantern
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which is kinda a time where most people dont work cus they have holidays

hollow river
spice spire
hollow river
coral ibex
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yea don’t expect any fixes from blizzard for a week if not longer

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maybe not even before the new year

spice spire
hollow river
sullen hollow
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great so i never get the last 2 gems for the ring xd

spice spire
spice spire
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Eventually it just happens lol

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I’ve done it on two toons

sullen hollow
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yeah ive been here for 4hrs alrdy

sour delta
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whats up rogue nation happy christmas

spice spire
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Merry Christmas homie

slate crown
grim jay
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its not christmas

grim jay
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rowdies

sour delta
grim jay
sour delta
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me when santa brings me coal

spice spire
sour delta
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true and kittypilled

rotund oak
tired oyster
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Orc or nelf? For m+ mainly 🧐

rotund oak
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will u be pushing for high keys?

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if yes prolly nelf,if not prolly orc does more dmg

fallow canopy
spice spire
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Rogue took like 6 attempts for fathom

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Priest took 2

granite leaf
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Quick Q. How best to use thistle tea if energy isn't a problem (large aoe for example)?

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Do you just take the energy wastage for the mastery?

keen spruce
fallow canopy
keen spruce
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and forget about it

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!tea

prisma monolithBOT
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
granite leaf
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I've been using it on a separate binding, I guess this makes it easier 😄

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Mousewheel for symbol of death and tea

spice spire
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Why don’t you eat my ass raw shmeeps

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(Please)

keen spruce
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can i have medium rare ass intead

hollow river
dawn heath
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If you play keys

granite leaf
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Nelf is goated visually and mechanically, also fuck dwarfs

brisk tangle
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!tea

prisma monolithBOT
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
spice spire
rotund oak
gaunt totem
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hello everyone, i am returning to rogue from BFA (only played sub for minor content) so i am basically learning stuff anew. I was wondering how bad/far behind Fatebound* is vs. Deathstalker atm, as it does mayhaps look like the "simpler" spec to learn at first?

rotund oak
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deathstalker isnt that complicated but u have to manage deathstalkers mark which suffers from couple bugs,nothing speical

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also wins fatebound in ''aoe'' scenatios

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fatebound should win on ST(this still with a grain of salt,its from my personal sims)

gaunt totem
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i am looking at that opener on wowhead and am already overwhelmed :O
(i usually main any warrior spec or DK spec)

rotund oak
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well both are pretty easy compared to any rogue spec

gaunt totem
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exactly

rotund oak
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assa rogue being the most simple out of the 3 rogue specs still has some stuff to worry about

gaunt totem
dawn heath
rotund oak
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nothing special though

rotund oak
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hold on

gaunt totem
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i am glad though that is is deemed as the simplest. looking forward to bash my head into stuff to learn it!

rotund oak
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dont worry about it,its not anything crazy

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mostly need to worry about refreshing bleeds and pressing ur buttons in the correct sequence

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it will come at you in good time

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practice is key,for everything

gaunt totem
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thanks, i will try my best :D

rotund oak
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u r welcome friend 🙂

rotund oak
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!bug

prisma monolithBOT
royal lantern
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wow in general is a more simple game

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you can learn all specs in a decent way fast, people LOVE to overhype how difficult something is

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see: arcane mages/shadow priests, and in this discord outlaws all the time

rotund oak
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Outlaws are special^

royal lantern
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the difficulty is the encounters, not the class gameplay

spice spire
royal lantern
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  • everything is subjective anyway
gaunt totem
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looking at the openers, in aoe, why do we cast rupture 2 times in a row? 🤔

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assuming a target swap there?

runic hinge
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This isn’t exactly what you’re asking but

candid sun
runic hinge
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!carnage

prisma monolithBOT
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Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

  • The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
  • You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

rotund oak
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its big buff

gaunt totem
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oooooh i was wondering because of the recommendation to have mouseover macros in the macro section , now it makes sense!

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thank you both

rotund oak
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you should take some time and read the guide over in wowhead

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its very helpful

royal lantern
gaunt totem
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seeing how stuff interacts, etc.

royal lantern
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IC applies garrote/rupture to 2 additonal targets when used from stealth

so you apply them on 1 target and 2 others get it, and if you use it again on the same target without swapping, it still applies 2 more to 2 targets that dont have it yet, which means you have 5 running now

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you CAN swap the target to something that is not dotted up at all yet, bgut thats really finniky for no real gain

gaunt totem
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but if i use a mo macro for that, i could also in theory get 6 running if i apply to a target that doesn't have it, and because of smart spread it will still target 2 without, correct?

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i see

royal lantern
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ye

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but the thing is

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garrote/rupture are not that important for dmg itself

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they mostly exists for energy, your main aoe dmg is crimson tempest/spatter

gaunt totem
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oooh okay

royal lantern
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think of rupture/garrote in aoe as resource generation tools

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so you want them spread out fast for energy

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but your actuall dmg is keeping crimson tempest running and then Single target a guy and cleaving with spatter from it

gaunt totem
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i have not seen anything in the pins, but is there a spreadsheet or a WA that shows/lists all the stuff we can remove with cloak? or is it in general just... everything?

royal lantern
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assume that its most stuff that is magic

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until you learn that not everything that is magical is actual magic dmg for cloak

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and not everything that is clearly a aoe effect counts as aoe for feint

runic hinge
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Yeah and sometimes brown swirlies are physical and you can dodge them with evasion

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And sometimes they are not and you die

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Like last boss cot it’s nature. Fun time

oblique wasp
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Hi everyone - I wanted to double check the M+ Cleave build as per Wowhead - M+ with Zoldyck and Arterial and stuff. I can't wrap myself around it but I seem to be more efficient and more dmg in classical M+ hybrid build. Am I doing something fundamentally wrong or does anyone here have the same experience.

runic hinge
oblique wasp
gaunt totem
spice spire
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If they’re physical

prisma scaffold
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hello guys currently should we use skipper or windsinger for third slot in m plus?

tired oyster
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Skipper boi

soft surge
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what if its a pug and no one else is using skipper

hollow river
runic hinge
flint star
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Also with cloak. Like finding out that monstrosity in NW does physical damage.

runic hinge
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!nw

prisma monolithBOT
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The breath/frontal from the first boss in Necrotic Wake is an attack, not a spell.

In order to immune the the breath, you must be in the first second of cloak of shadows (“a moment of magic immunity”). After the first second of cloak of shadows has elapsed, the attack will hit you and no longer be immuned.
Alternatively you can use evasion to dodge the breath.

flint star
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I was talking about miniboss before the 2nd boss

spice surge
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Yep the big icy swirlies

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Those are physical

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Not magic

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While the brown bladestorms in siege are arcane damage

flint star
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Discovered this in my first +12

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Cringe

flint star
elder kiln
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!tea

prisma monolithBOT
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
spice surge
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I was thinking of the mobs before first boss

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Think the boss one does phys

grim jay
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If I meet you

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Hugging you tight

last urchin
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how is assassination on single target in m+ settings? my damage is atrocious and I don't understand why

slate crown
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Assa M+ ST is low

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Just how it is

grim jay
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Not atrocious tho

flint star
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Also if a boss has some kind of adds use rupture on them, it's energy regen + energy refund

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Mouseover macro was a gamechanger for me

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Takes some time to get used to

elder kiln
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hello guys, legendary circlet seems super low in m+ overall, anyone has swapped to windsong ? or w/e the name of the 2nd highest stat one, which should be mastery for a lot of folks ? it gives me 6-7% flat mastery, which is actually very fkin high

keen spruce
keen spruce
grim jay
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We just sim

flint star
grim jay
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And Skipper sims highest

runic hinge
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Math is stupid and we hate it

keen spruce
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I don’t even sim anymore I just assume that someone else has simmed and do what the guides or pins say

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It’s come full circle

runic hinge
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I got a character to run keys with shmeowdy

elder kiln
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i simmed it, legendary sims higher, but overall is super low

keen spruce
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Sir shmeowdy is 4/8 mythic

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And a +10 doer

flint star
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Also ELI5 how can I trust dslice sims if it presses buttons in the random order?

keen spruce
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For obvious reasons

coral ibex
keen spruce
flint star
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That does not answer my question tho

spice spire
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The first one did

runic hinge
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It literally says at the top of the button presses it’s a sample of one sim

shell kraken
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Is excavation for Stormbringers and Fathomdwellers still bugged?

spice spire
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It’s not a rotational guide, it just yoinked a medium of several thousand iterations

flint star
runic hinge
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It’s one example it’s not perfect play. There’s a disclaimer at the top

spice spire
elder kiln
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i think sim of this gem are different from whats happening ig

flint star
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Does it mean in some iterations it executes rotation properly?

keen spruce
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There isn’t a proper rotation in m+

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But roughly yes

flint star
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Have you ever sent DM without KB?

keen spruce
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Yes

runic hinge
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Yea

spice spire
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Yes

royal lantern
spice spire
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The affix that shortens CDs

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You kinda do

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12+ you ignore

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And ideally you wouldn’t

flint star
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But it desyncs you trinkets though

runic hinge
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I’ve sent kb without dm and then they’re not Synced so I sent dm without it cause kb is far off

spice spire
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Yeah

keen spruce
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It also kind of doesn’t matter to the point of what we use dslice for

runic hinge
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I don’t always press kb on the minute. Stuff happens

flint star
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I also sent DM without KB if KB is desynced and it's last boss in the dungeon

runic hinge
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Nice. So you know it can happen

flint star
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But DM is worthless without KB, no?

runic hinge
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Sim accounted for Okay

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No

keen spruce
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Your original question was “how can I trust dslice” and the answer is that you can trust it for what it is supposed to be used for

runic hinge
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Kb is worth less without dm. Dm always good

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Not worthless, worth less

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Cds are meant for pressing

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Anyways I’m a hunter main now. Ignore me

flint star
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Ok, I'm stupid. For some reason I thought dslice presses the same buttons thousands of times.

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In the same order

runic hinge
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No it’s just a bunch of conditions that tell it what to press and when and some times it’s different

neat patio
#

guys i am having a lot a problem doing dps on dg bosses

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off burst dps is too low

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500 600 k

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energy dies

coral ibex
#

nobody has ever reported such a thing happening i fear

neat patio
#

so thats it single is just trash ?

coral ibex
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correct

neat patio
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nice

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kkkkkkkkkkk

subtle tundra
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500-600k is low regardless

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erm

runic hinge
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Unless you’re like 580 ilvl

grim jay
neat patio
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whan i am doing only sigle do i keep Crimson Tempest too ?

flint star
#

Yeap, we discussed it above

grim jay
flint star
neat patio
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ok ok

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so geep rupture garrote and keep envenon buff

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keep*

subtle tundra
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What's your ilvl

grim jay
neat patio
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633

subtle tundra
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Ok buddy

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How do you get to 500k dps

flint star
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That's low

subtle tundra
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Do you not have your mark up or what

neat patio
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off burst

subtle tundra
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Yes buddy

flint star
#

Also time your KB when you don't have to run from the boss

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You HAVE TO hit in your KB window

subtle tundra
#

I only dip below 1 mil dps if it's a 4min + fight

grim jay
neat patio
#

what is kb ?

flint star
#

Kingsbane

subtle tundra
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Youre doing something wrong

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It's not the spec

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That is tank dps you're talking about

neat patio
#

yeah i am trying to lern my exp with assain is 6 days old

grim jay
subtle tundra
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Bdk lol

flint star
mental plume
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can anyone link a working deathstalkers mark tracker? since last patch mine been knackered

flint star
#

So if you have two hits with 50 stacks it's cool

grim jay
flint star
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Won't matter much of course

subtle tundra
neat patio
#

this was 2 days ago

subtle tundra
#

Ok so much

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Wow

grim jay
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Uh

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The ST CT is obviously killing quite some dps

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Your opener/CD window is wrong

neat patio
#

whas my major erros

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error* bisedes the CT

subtle tundra
#

Bad shiv în kb

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Your uptime seems bad but idk how to see it while on phone

grim jay
subtle tundra
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You didn't envenom before kb

grim jay
#

Your DN uptime looks way high

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As in you dont proc it immediately

flint star
#

More DM uptime = less autoattack damage from hero talent

subtle tundra
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Mark has 44% uptime

flint star
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Hunt them down if I'm not mistaken

grim jay
#

And less DN envenoms

subtle tundra
#

That's really bad

neat patio
#

you guys have a WA so i can track that DN proc ?

subtle tundra
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Any WA package

flint star
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
neat patio
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i use Naowh

grim jay
#

Recommend both whispyrs afenar edit and his plater

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You have everything you need then

neat patio
#

i will try that

dense badger
#

Can I ask something that might seem dumb to most people.. how comes my details shows amazing 360 no scope damage then logs tells me I’m shit and doing no where near that

grim jay
flint star
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Some logs don't count adds damage

grim jay
#

It depends on what you logged

dense badger
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I just /combatlog at the start of the dung then again at the end

grim jay
flint star
#

Details count active combat time afaik

dense badger
#

Another dumb question though. I compared my Myth Rash kill to some other people. I did 1.54m overall on my best and got a 79% pars. Found someone who did 1.57m overall and he got a 99 parse… does it account for boss kill time too I’m guessing then or?

atomic jolt
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guys

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i have a question

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is there a way to show u guys

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the buttons I presss

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in m+?

grim jay
grim jay
ripe carbon
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screenshot ur UI binds?

dense badger
#

My man did 30k more dps than me and hit a 99% and I hit a 79% I sad

flint star
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He did it earlier than you

dense badger
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Ayo

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That makes fkn sense

flint star
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He could do it first week

dense badger
#

Bro I need to go back to school or some shit

grim jay
# dense badger Oh I just suck then

Its like if there are 2 rogues getting the same first logged kill, one will have a 100 and one a 0, even if dps are the same. Everything inbetween following that will get % according to the split, that might be easy to visualize

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Also ye when you kill it matters

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The parse % stays once its logged in

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Would only compare to the updated rankings

dense badger
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Yeah I think it’s because of how late I killed it😂 thanks guys, I’m new to all this logs stuff appreciate you all

flint star
dense badger
flint star
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Action bars are hidden

ripe carbon
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i meant the guy asking about wanting to know what buttons he pressed

dense badger
#

AtrocityUI?

flint star
#

It's just Naowh edit

dense badger
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It’s hot man, I like it

ripe carbon
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this mine

uiupdated.png
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i could probably make the bars smaller tho

flint star
#

Do you guys ever use shit + tab? I think it can be good for spreading dots in carnage window then retargeting your DM target

atomic jolt
#

guys

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i really need help

runic hinge
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Same

atomic jolt
#

my singletarget rotation as assa

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is

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i open with ambush

mint urchin
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There is no perfect way to spread dots, some like mouse over, I personally added a focus macro to my DM target, some tab... its whatever works

runic hinge
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But idk if this discord offers it

atomic jolt
#

garrote till 7 combo points

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rupture

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and then

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I start to mutilate

balmy condor
#

have you considered opening a guide and reading that

ripe carbon
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the wowhead guide says opener

balmy condor
#

garrote till 7 is already wild

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!guide

prisma monolithBOT
atomic jolt
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for caustic

balmy condor
#

would refer you to these

atomic jolt
runic hinge
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Read it again

balmy condor
#

okay but you just said single target

ripe carbon
#

it showws exactly how to do it

balmy condor
#

and then "for caustic"

runic hinge
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Twice

atomic jolt
#

reading the guide on

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site

balmy condor
#

so you're lacking basic understanding of your talents

atomic jolt
#

nono

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im talking

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about

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aoe

flint star
ripe carbon
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just follow the opner parts on wowhead guide

mint urchin
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I just refocus, the dot spread at the start you only need the focus for like 5-10sec

atomic jolt
#

i feel dumb af

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bro

ripe carbon
#

it is kinda hard

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like it takes a while to get it down

atomic jolt
#

can i record myself

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on the dummies

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and show u guys ?

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if u dont mind

mint urchin
#

garrotte and rupture also smart spread, so you could literally just not do anything at all and just spam it if you want to be lazy

atomic jolt
#

what I do ?

ripe carbon
#

but u can know if ur doing wrong.. just follow the opener

flint star
#

Hmm, I always put my kick target on focus before pull and use focus rupture/garrote if it does not have them applied

ripe carbon
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itll be the same answer - follow the opener on guide

mint urchin
#

Its just a "pick your poison" situation, just do whatever gets the job done for you

atomic jolt
#

I MEAN

mint urchin
#

mouse over can have dead gcds if you arent close enough, tab can cause you to have trouble retargeting, focus causes issues with focus kick

flint star
#

You mean dead gcds if you are not fast enough with mouseovering?

mint urchin
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No if you are not close enough to them it will literally do nothing

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and you waste a gcd

atomic jolt
#

@ripe carboncan u check

flint star
#

Well you should kinda know if you are in melee range, no?

mint urchin
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Not in huge packs that are semi scattered and you arent targeting them because its a mouse over, no

ripe carbon
balmy condor
atomic jolt
#

whats CT?

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crimson tempest

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mb

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hahhaahahah

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this is what I do in aoe

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and in single target its the same I dot

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then try to keep shiv and envenom up

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thats what the guide told me

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but should I do ct in singletarget?

jade abyss
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No

atomic jolt
#

also

tall jay
#

For the Lego gem to trigger the effect, do you have to have the gems in your bag or just (it procs the gems) kinda thing?

atomic jolt
#

my CDs dont do anything in aoe

jade abyss
#

You ct 2+ targets

atomic jolt
flint star
coral ibex
mint urchin
#

Like I said, its all preference and every route has a risk/potential issue

jade abyss
balmy condor
#

have you read caustic spatter

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read it again

runic hinge
#

I am not sure he reads

atomic jolt
#

I do

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but understanding

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assa

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is kinda complicated

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when i never touched it

balmy condor
#

it's really not that hard

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spread bleeds, then caustic

jade abyss
#

Cds in caustic are Surebud

balmy condor
#

big kaboom one target

atomic jolt
#

so

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after I spread my bleeds

balmy condor
#

all the damage go spread spread from caustic

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gg

coral ibex
#

my cds dont do anything in aoe

atomic jolt
#

deathmark shiv kingsbane

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and then

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mutilate

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so my caustic

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fucks

#

?

balmy condor
#

what

#

okay, again

#

you should be mutilating before

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as like 5 people have pointed you to the opener

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caustic is a debuff

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you have to mut every 8-10 seconds to make sure it stays up

atomic jolt
#

yes

balmy condor
#

Yes

jade abyss
#

Yes

atomic jolt
#

hard

coral ibex
#

Yes

balmy condor
#

What’s hard

atomic jolt
#

cuz I dont understand

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the principe

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of my cds

ripe carbon
#

look at the opener i sent, at the right it says 'proceed to cooldown sqeuence'

atomic jolt
#

how they work

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in aoe

ripe carbon
#

cooldown sequence comes after ti

balmy condor
#

They spread damage through caustic

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Mfer

coral ibex
#

do you know what splash means

balmy condor
#

You cannot be this dense

atomic jolt
#

english isnt my first langauge

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im very dense man

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haha

balmy condor
#

OKAY DANN HALT AUF DEUTSCH

#

ALTER

atomic jolt
#

ok

coral ibex
#

splashen

balmy condor
#

Wenn du deine CDs ziehsts, hast ha königsmord und todesmal und klinge

coral ibex
#

you hit a guy and then some of it hits guys who are close

balmy condor
#

das ist alles natur schaden

spice surge
#

Köningsmord Classic

atomic jolt
#

bro schreib die abilities auf englisch

jade abyss
#

Mark duplicate poisons and bleeds = more poison more caustic spreads. Kingsbane big poison big poison spreads thanks caustic

atomic jolt
#

hab das spiel an sich auf englisch

balmy condor
#

kann ich auch

coral ibex
#

bro sprechen zie DICK

grim jay
austere lion
atomic jolt
#

ich check schon was ihr meint bro

balmy condor
#

also cds -> kingsbane deathmark und klinge

atomic jolt
#

gneau

candid sun
#

Homie just swaps into another language to explain

#

That's hilarious

balmy condor
#

jo, und das ist alles nature damage

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caustic nimmt sich den schaden

jade abyss
grim jay
#

Naturschaden

balmy condor
#

und ist dann aoe

atomic jolt
#

das heißt

#

wenn ich

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cds ziehe

#

mutilate

dark crag
#

Göttlich hier!

atomic jolt
#

splasht das auf andere targets

coral ibex
#

this guy isn't a real german real germans dont say bro they say digga

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this is an elaborate bit

balmy condor
#

alles das naturschaden macht, ja

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envenom, kingsbane, etc

jade abyss
balmy condor
#

poisons

dark crag
#

Brudi muss los

grim jay
balmy condor
#

deshalb shiv -> increased nature damage

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mehr schaden durch caustic

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envenom -> caustic

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etc etc

#

kingsbane ist auch natur, und ist deshalb auch ein teil von caustic

jade abyss
#

Dachte shiv erhöht nicht den caustic damage?

dark crag
balmy condor
#

shiv erhöht den caustic damage auf die gegner die den caustic damage zu sich nehmen

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nicht direkt von dem gegner mit dem debuff selbst

grim jay
#

Zu sich nehmen ist wild

agile wedge
#

germans unite

shy pecan
#

Damn, who made Whispyr start talking in German? gollUMM

jade abyss
#

Ah you mean when i shiv a other target that target gets more damage from caustic?

grim jay
balmy condor
coral ibex
#

someone who can't read

agile wedge
balmy condor
#

idk how these people talk about stuff

balmy condor
grim jay
atomic jolt
#

ok ich verstehe

balmy condor
#

now with typical m+ builds, not relevant

#

but like, ya know

atomic jolt
#

glaub ich

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hahaahahah

balmy condor
#

still the concept

jade abyss
atomic jolt
#

shiv erhöht den schaden von caustic

#

heißt

#

shiv window

#

viel bursten

#

?

agile wedge
#

was willst du sonst machen? dots refreshen? 😛

balmy condor
#

ja nein nicht direkt, aber wenns hilft so zu denken

coral ibex
#

im gonna bursten

atomic jolt
#

im endeffekt soll ich ja meine cds kombinieren

#

deathmark kingsbane und shiv

balmy condor
#

jo

atomic jolt
#

wenn deathmark nich up is

#

dann kingsbane

#

bisschen rampen

#

dann shiv

balmy condor
#

genau

atomic jolt
#

und dann caustic macht den rest

#

im aoe ?

balmy condor
#

und das alles auf dem gegner mit caustic

#

yep

jade abyss
#

Every time german is dropped here, its hilarious

atomic jolt
#

verstehe

#

aber an sich war die rota von mir

#

richtig

candid sun
#

I'm trying to teach myself through osmosis ngl

grim jay
balmy condor
#

ja die rota was okay

grim jay
#

Brudi

atomic jolt
#

garrote auf alle

#

rupture

#

früher CT

balmy condor
#

crimson tempest halt spät wie gesagt

#

aber sonnst richtig

jade abyss
atomic jolt
#

hab ich cds gut gezogen

#

weil ich bin immer verwirrt wann ich cds ziehen soll im aoe

balmy condor
#

ja war vollkommen okay

#

erstens halt immer bleeds mit indiscriminate carnage

grim jay
atomic jolt
#

gneau

balmy condor
#

dann caustic 100% fokus

jade abyss
atomic jolt
#

also sinn vom ganzen

#

bleeds

#

und dann caustic buffen

#

mit cds

grim jay
balmy condor
#

yep

marble hemlock
atomic jolt
#

ja [ ] nein [ ]

#

?

jade abyss
balmy condor
#

ja

grim jay
atomic jolt
#

und singletarget

balmy condor
#

und stellst halt sicher das ct immer activ ist, und du genug garrote/ruptures hast damit du energie hast

atomic jolt
#

ist ja eig

#

relativ dasselbe

balmy condor
#

genau

atomic jolt
#

nur kein CT

balmy condor
#

ja

atomic jolt
#

aber bleeds draufhalten

#

und mutilate

#

envenom shiv aufhalten

dark crag
#

Dieser Kanal ist jetzt Eigentum der Bundesrepublik Deutschland!

atomic jolt
#

wort

flint star
#

Is it german

balmy condor
#

ist halt langsam weil du nur einen gegner hast für deine bleeds

grim jay
atomic jolt
#

hab gemerkt

#

weil

#

mache in st

#

nicht krassen dmg

#

aoe auch nicht

balmy condor
#

so ists halt

atomic jolt
#

aber

#

a

#

ja

#

kann ich kurz das umsetzen was du mir erklärt hast

#

und ich zeig dir das kurz nochma per clip?

balmy condor
#

ja ich mein der clip war ja schon recht gut aber kann ich machen

flint star
#

Хороший канал, хорошие обсуждения

balmy condor
atomic jolt
#

assa is schon ne nummer

#

für sich selber

grim jay
balmy condor
#

your M is upside down btw @flint star

atomic jolt
#

also für dich kommt das ez vor

#

aber

#

kp

dark crag
#

You should try a bit of sub

flint star
jade abyss
#

Musst cds richtig usen dann blastest auch aoe

atomic jolt
#

hab sub immer gespielt

#

und ganz früher halt

#

kampf

balmy condor
grim jay
atomic jolt
grim jay
#

Sowas von verdreht

atomic jolt
#

aber hab auch wenig gear

#

562 ilvl

flint star
#

wcyd

balmy condor
jade abyss
#

562 oida

grim jay
flint star
#

We also have double K

#

Ж

balmy condor
jade abyss
dark crag
#

Mit 562 solltest du besser auf der insel rumlungern und da gear farmen

flint star
#

And we also have Ы which looks like bloodlusl (bl). Me and my friends just call Bloodlust Ы.

grim jay
atomic jolt
jade abyss
balmy condor
atomic jolt
flint star
grim jay
grim jay
jade abyss
balmy condor
#

Und dann hasts

balmy condor
atomic jolt
#

also fan of knives benutzen ab +3 um combo points zu machen

balmy condor
#

Ja

atomic jolt
#

aber wenn ich dann aoe machen will wieder auf mutilate

#

ez

#

tmm