assassination

[worldly dock]

I've seen few rogues using Twist the Knife instead of Sudden Demise
Does it worth in m+ doing that?

[candid sun]

Single target, to my knowledge, with lust and t3 tempered pot, if I do everything right, no skardyns, i'll spike about 1.7m on pull

Then settle around 1.2m?

I'm probably being generous

Probably less than that

That's single target mythic tho

[light moat]

okey thanks 🙂

[candid sun]

I don't have a good reference for what I should be pulling

[normal mist]

Rest looks good @light moat

[candid sun]

I suppose I could drop io / logs lol

My biggest issues, at least in mythic, is upkeep on spatter and CT

[normal mist]

My max ST so far was 1.7, @ rashanan

[light moat]

appreciate it 🙂

[candid sun]

Spatter is such a weird fucking thing for me mostly because I'm swapping around to spread dots and then I lose my marked targeted / lose uptime on spatter

It's mostly me getting overwhelmed

[candid sun]

Iirc AoE vs single target but it's miniscule? Sometimes I can't tell when Whispyr is shitting on something or being ironic about it, that's what I got from it lol

[normal mist]

Tldr pretty much everything is viable

[candid sun]

I run twist the knife over sudden demise personally

[worldly dock]

Well maybe we can ask @balmy condor 😄

[candid sun]

Dropped sanguine

for iron wire

Was trying out various combos

[worldly dock]

Well iron is more for support

[candid sun]

Yeah, in my experience people don't fucking kick

So I run it as a safety net

[worldly dock]

yeah

[candid sun]

I guess I even commit sacrilege by kidney shotting to interrupt shit because people don't want to kick either -.-

Usually more of an "oh shit" for me

[golden loom]

I mean kidney shot is a very good button

[candid sun]

shrug half the time I see people being ironic and snarky over some shit in here so I can't tell "is this ok and correct or not" so I just play around with it personally

Personally, yeah, I think its ok but you prolly lose uptime / dps for wasting combo points on cc instead of flat dps

Prolly a tradeoff there

[golden loom]

Well its an infinite dps gain if it prevents death

[candid sun]

I'm still in the habit of being a CC bot from cata lol

Fair

[royal lantern]

i mean, you stun when you need a stun

that has nothing to do with losing dmg or smth like that

[candid sun]

Especially if it ensures someone doesn't get rekt I guess

[worldly dock]

Does it worht also to remove 1 talent from the vanish additional charge and put 1 into Lethality?

crit increase?

[golden loom]

Just play double vanish and you will have a way more enjoyable time in keys imo

[candid sun]

lol I run double vanish

[worldly dock]

and also
what does twist the knife help us?

[golden loom]

Single target dps

[waxen oyster]

All these changes are like

[candid sun]

RIP, I run double vanish; it's nice when tanks insist on chain pulling and not allowing restealth

[waxen oyster]

Sub 1% differences

It really doesnt matter

[worldly dock]

right.. so

its not gonna change everything

[waxen oyster]

anything really

[royal lantern]

thats assa m+ talent in a nutshell

you have 500+ combinations

[golden loom]

Yeah its all very similar

[candid sun]

So what, preference?

[royal lantern]

and they all dont really change anything

[royal lantern]

kinda, yeha

[golden loom]

Just run the stuff that makes ur life easy, double vanish, ironwire, sudden demise

[royal lantern]

if you have IC+spatter+kingsbane+CT, you have 98% of the aoe tollkit

[candid sun]

Like I don't mind taking a small gimp to AoE to slightly boost single target since I tend to always have a ret paly in my group who nukes shit in AoE anyways

Minor tradeoff I suppose

[waxen oyster]

I decline any rets

if they play male human

or male belf

ngl

[candid sun]

I pugged a fair bit of the time and took whatever I could get lmao

I am absolutely at the point to throw away any DH tanks I find though

Starting to fucking hate them

[worldly dock]

well only change im thinking is to remove Sanguine and get Twist the knife

[waxen oyster]

It really barely matters

[golden loom]

Well if you want more single target, do that but its also not a big deal

[waxen oyster]

if you think your damage is bad problem is you

99% chance

[worldly dock]

nah i dont think that:D

my sanguine is like 7-9%

its really good

[waxen oyster]

Tends to do that in lower keys

[golden loom]

It is the biggest single target change you can do though, ttk is full ST and sanguine is useless in single target

[candid sun]

I figure since it was said here we practically have our whole AoE toolkit, the lil loss from sanguine for ttk is just a bonus for single anyways. In my experience, I tend to have an excess in ret palys/enhance shamans i've played with anyways, so i'll just let them go daddy longdick in AoE pulls and just nuke the discerning trash mob / single target boss

Was actually considering running full single target, but that would require comp negotiation

e.g. who does what

[royal lantern]

male human/female belf paladin with t2+ashbringer = whatever you do will be giga bricked

[candid sun]

I play fem human rogue

Slutmogged

[golden loom]

Based

[candid sun]

Judge me off that

[worldly dock]

Twist the knife… I read the talent but I can’t understand it somehow

[waxen oyster]

yeah no anyone who wears t2 is a sandbagger

[golden loom]

I mean my rogue is named uwucutegirl so I cannot say much

[candid sun]

Mfw I had a druid named catgirlgfuwu lmao

[worldly dock]

How it help us for the envenom

[candid sun]

I love it

[waxen oyster]

ill trust a male kultiran in a murloc onesie

more

[royal lantern]

we have a druid healer named catgirl

[candid sun]

I also have a draenei shaman named goatc

Warrior is trogmogger

[golden loom]

U get 2 stacks of envenom buff, = more poison procs = more energy = more damage from the envenom talent that gives 10% damage when buff is active so 20% with ttk

[worldly dock]

Does it affect the KB aswell?

[golden loom]

So instead of 30% application rate you have 60%

Well yeah cause you have more poison procs so KB ramps faster

[worldly dock]

ill try it next m+

[waxen oyster]

Me when i just play standard wowhead build

It gaps most pugs except enh players with more than 1 braincell

[candid sun]

Enhance players make me rage

I've seen them do stupid dps and still die to mechanics

[waxen oyster]

I had one ream me on dam earlier

Saw the chinese text from addons though

checks out ig

[candid sun]

Idk, I guess it's the fotm "gotta be competitive at all costs" bullshit

that annoys me

[waxen oyster]

Nah most fotm players kinda shit

[candid sun]

the "i'm going to play whatever class is good even if it's not my main"

Like I'm gonna dread when we inevitably get overtuned and stupid

and then everyone rerolls rogue

[waxen oyster]

i mean

rogue rn

is good in keys

thats why stupid questions are all over

[candid sun]

I'm a rogue main and still ask 'stupid questions'

[worldly dock]

well rogues are also squishy right?

[candid sun]

I guess I don't know what you're defining as stupid tbh

Most of my questions are contextual or ability synergy

[waxen oyster]

no

Basic "didnt read the guide" questions

[worldly dock]

😄

guess i dont use Feint enough

[golden loom]

Well they are squishy if you ask the 18 keyers

[candid sun]

I spam feint like my live depends on it

[waxen oyster]

Yeah because you're not enhance

having an aug rimjob you

all key

[royal lantern]

god i wish somebody would rimjob me

[candid sun]

Find you a cute uwu pocket healer

[waxen oyster]

play pvp for that tbh

[candid sun]

Healers are obviously submissive by nature

[waxen oyster]

pve healer players are just whiney

[royal lantern]

my brother in christ

you play assa

[waxen oyster]

when they do nothing

[candid sun]

I'm a switch, doesn't compare

Your resto druid friend probably thrives off being tied up

[waxen oyster]

hpriest players

[candid sun]

Lmaoo

[waxen oyster]

just perma dead in angel form

on cd

[royal lantern]

its a woman, and she is in relation ship with 1 hunter

[candid sun]

inb4 the hunter is the sub

[royal lantern]

we have a tank/healer comp in our raid aswell

the healer is the guy

and he is the OG short king

[candid sun]

Is the tank a woman who gives him uppies

[royal lantern]

ye, so he can actually reach the PC

[waxen oyster]

I've seen like 2 female tanks

[candid sun]

Lmfao

Dead

[waxen oyster]

in my time playing wow

The stereotype classes go priest>hunter>druid imo

[royal lantern]

our maintank is a woman, 1 priest healer is, the co-raidlead is one aswell and plays havoc dh

[candid sun]

Ours plays hunter/lock

The other plays enhance and is giga sweaty

[waxen oyster]

Honestly

every good warlock i run into in this game

is perma depressed

24/7

[candid sun]

I want a chill lock friend

For some reason I just tend to like the personalities that main lock

I've met my fair share that are like, wired to think mechanically, are usually undemonstrative with emotions / not very emotional

[royal lantern]

warlocks are either chill af or the ultimate sweaty tryhards

[candid sun]

It's a nice balance

[royal lantern]

and the first guys are better at the game

[waxen oyster]

warrior players if they arent fotm melee buffs

are often old boomers

[candid sun]

lmao

[waxen oyster]

i've noticed

[candid sun]

Warrior and ret paly mains are meatheads irl

Meathead class

[royal lantern]

warrior player IQ is based on how meta the class is

warrior is meta = warriors need aid to breathe cus they are SO fucking stupid

[candid sun]

I love a good prot warrior tho

Ngl

[royal lantern]

warrior is bad = only giga chads play warrior, they went trought a survival of the fittest process

[radiant raven]

Arms warrior = best warrior, too

[royal lantern]

ye

[candid sun]

The currently unloved spec I guess

[waxen oyster]

if you ask warrior mains

fury isnt good rn

[candid sun]

smh

[golden loom]

Fury is fun as fuck

[candid sun]

Haven't leveled one

I play MM on my hunter

[golden loom]

Idk Rogue and warrior are probably only 2 classes I can be good at

[waxen oyster]

mid tier chad ig

[golden loom]

Too adhd to play casters

[candid sun]

I'd probably compare that to arms I guess given every hunter you find is either survival or bm

[waxen oyster]

at least its not bm

bm and ret pal players are

[candid sun]

I fucking hate BM

[waxen oyster]

"special"

[candid sun]

I don't like pets, I don't like pet management

I don't want to be lustbot

[golden loom]

Fury just has such a satisfying feedback loop idk

[candid sun]

I just want to blast shit and turn my brain off when having to think on rogue makes me tired

[waxen oyster]

The worst is when your lust class is a healer

i swear average healer main

never presses it

[golden loom]

I always whisper someone in pugs and assign them as the lust boy

[candid sun]

lmao

[golden loom]

Cba not getting lust on pull

[candid sun]

I wish they'd negotiate lusts more, I've had my fair share lately of tanks just going in, pulling, screaming LUST

then dies

bc they didn't plan it

[radiant raven]

My hot take: put lust on tanks. give them the lust button. really big warrior shout.

[candid sun]

Usually when I'm lustbot on hunter I'll flat ask

"lust on packs or bosses?"

Problem solved

[waxen oyster]

ngl when i tank

[golden loom]

Just make drums good and give lust to everyone

[waxen oyster]

i dont expect my dps

to press buttons they should

[radiant raven]

this is a smarter suggestion than my big warrior shout idea

[golden loom]

Idk if they want lust to be a unique thing for certain classes in M+

[royal lantern]

ouch

[golden loom]

In that case make drums raid only or something

[waxen oyster]

The worst

is when sham dps is meta

and they dont press it

????

[golden loom]

Mages are good at pressing it though, probably cause they are most affected by not having lust

[waxen oyster]

unless they have their minilust

[candid sun]

Lol I've seen trigger happy mages lust too soon

[golden loom]

Also MM hunter having to summon their pet -> lust -> dismiss pet is so fried

[candid sun]

Yep

Whenever i'm MM I bitch to whoever is putting the group together to spare me the dps loss

Usually my friends anyways

"i can lust but fucking hell don't make me, find a dedicated luster, plenty of shamans looking for a group"

My guildie IS a dedicated shaman healer, has been for multiple xpacs

So usually I'm safe there

[vivid mulch]

Shuddering hollow is bugged at siren isle atm?

[candid sun]

It's been yes

[vivid mulch]

Yeah okay

[rotund oak]

Took me about 4 hours to get fathomdwellers

might be faster since not many ppl play this late

[shell crater]

Heyyo, what should I be focusing on for stats? Some places tell me mastery, others tell me crit, any particular best?

[rotund oak]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[mellow swift]

Crit mastery on all slots fixed

[rotund oak]

.. it doesnt matter,before everything comes ilvl first

[mellow swift]

If we talking end game this late in the season ull be looking for crit mastery. If your just starting out yes ilvl is king

[rotund oak]

even then u sim ur character.Whatever the numbers say

but ye crit mastery is more favored

[mellow swift]

So exactly what i said haha

[rotund oak]

..

[rotund oak]

u need to get his number,go out for a couple of beers or something

[dawn heath]

hes a gamer too

m+ title and gladiator

chad

[rotund oak]

solid

[royal lantern]

no you dont look "for crit mastery late in the season"

who tf told you that lol

[half igloo]

guessing assa uses the same gems in the ring for aoe and st?

nvm yes it is

[jade abyss]

hi guys i have a question bcs i think my st in m+ sucks hard. after opener i press envenom to low energy after that i wait for energy 70% and start again right? and pool energy for KB window ?

[hearty reef]

hello chat any stormbringer droppers?

[jade abyss]

yeah

[storm hedge]

Yep, the one strat where you wait until the next event starts seems to guarantee the drop.

At least it did for me.

[balmy condor]

No pooling

But that’s not gonna fix your st

[jade abyss]

hmm

[fossil thicket]

is this still the current one or did anything change?

[balmy condor]

Pins seem to agree

Not sure who put them there

But they seem smart

[fossil thicket]

ye just double checkin because wowhead says other gems

[balmy condor]

What

[candid solstice]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[balmy condor]

cheat sheet

[humble verge]

change it NOW

[fossil thicket]

thanks my ninja

[balmy condor]

They’re 1 id off

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-jing-liu-jing-star-rail-honkai-star-rail-gif-5566230999629861886

[hollow river]

1000 rogues using the wrong gem now

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/me-waking-up-from-nap-swifty-sapped-wow-swifty-world-of-warcraft-swifty-wow-gif-26679783

[balmy condor]

To be fair, not the worst combo

[jade abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/noo-toy-story-buzz-lightyear-gif-14664723

[balmy condor]

[hollow river]

[balmy condor]

Probably like -0.7 but still worth

[pine cave]

/leave

[tepid breach]

any idea how to fix the fcking citrine, since 6pm i'm tryng to get it

its fucking bugged

did 40 relog

40 switch on my alt too

bugged aswell

[crystal glen]

Bugged for everyone - sometimes your lucky and it works? Fix is to wait for blizz to fix it

[turbid lion]

you mean the boss for the good gems?

[tepid breach]

y

[waxen oyster]

You just attack him

kill

[coral ibex]

good

[waxen oyster]

and the event gives it

[tepid breach]

i killed probably more than 15 times today

and didn't get any citrine

[waxen oyster]

We call this in the business

a skill issue

[turbid lion]

if yes what works is to reset it when the wq is gone and wait till its back on and then let a hunter glitch the pet through the rocks to pull the old mob you didnt kill through the wall and kill it before the wall despawns in 3 min

[turbid lion]

that way the quest doesnt glitches out and you get the gem

that shit works but the hardest part is to coordinate 30 monkeys not to kill the mob

[foggy stump]

doesnt work in a Raid btw

[turbid lion]

idk about that

[keen mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/bike-fall-meme-bike-fall-gif-22382475

But the legendary gem does not have that high proc its trash fk sims i dont trust them

[gloomy hinge]

It does not, If you wait for the timer for the cave to open then go in and try to kill him, unless your group can kill him within 15 maybe max 20 seconds, the event will fail. The way people have to do it is use a hunter pet to pull him out DURING the countdown for the cave and kill it then

[gloomy hinge]

didnt see this. facts

[waxen oyster]

We killed him inside the cave

[turbid lion]

ok cool bro

[humble verge]

damn

first time ive replaced a dk in a dung group

[slate crown]

reject modernity embrace tradition gem makes numbers on screen good brain feels good gem

[slate crown]

What do you mean wowhead is correct and always has been correct?

They don't know shit

They just misread it

[waxen oyster]

There’s a reason whispyr put circus music

On his video covering it

[final warren]

tea on burst or just low energy?

[spice surge]

It doesnt particularly matter, you can mostly just macro it with shiv

But if you accidently proc it its fine too

[balmy condor]

I’ve had to change gems on the guide 4 times now

And every time I need to change it, I have to change it in 3 different places

It’s so cringe

[final warren]

those are the right ones then? hehe the 2 for secondary stats?

[old halo]

but wut if everyone uses zappy one and the proc zappy one???

[balmy condor]

The pins are correct

[ember mural]

just put pins in wowhead

[balmy condor]

Real

Replace wowhead with “check pins”

[solar wyvern]

Pin the wowcheck

[echo heath]

@balmy condor take a nice break these holidays, you work to hard

Happy Holidays everyone

[tall jay]

Ditto

[cerulean walrus]

So real

Just have a link in the pins that links to wowhead and then Wowhead links to the pins here

[long hawk]

How exactly do we get the legendary skipper gem?

[coral ibex]

from the vendor

[long hawk]

Vendor?

[coral ibex]

pins

[balmy condor]

I hardly know ‘or

[long hawk]

You mean Angorla? Does not show up when i check her

[coral ibex]

did you read the pinned message

[long hawk]

Oop reading now

[long hawk]

Yup see it thanks!

[sterile ore]

but why is this better

7% mastery on the other one for me

[turbid lion]

just sim it

[sterile ore]

true

[brave comet]

should i use my deathmark, kingsbane on mythic court on pull? or should i wait until vulnerability phase on the beetle after the charge

[split grail]

Question on Winning Steak: The 15% chance to lose the buff, is this when you cast the abilities or whenever they do damage(Rupture, CT dot)

[vast patio]

I really don't like the way they're designing the patch's tier sets in general, lol

[spice surge]

Presumably on cast, but no way of knowing

[jade abyss]

"Sorry my damage this try sucks bcs my winning streak wasnt high enough"

[brave comet]

anyone knows?

[strange python]

nelf shadowmeld proc subterfuge and all the tricks?

[potent lance]

not everywhere

[opal plume]

just at start and when the other is vulnerable

[potent lance]

you need too be fast with using it and go into stealth

you cant use it on boss fights and soem elite mobs in dungeon

[rancid wind]

How Hekili-able is Assassination? I want to do boss damage but my brain is full of WW and I got pretty good at using it for Feral

Or is the HeroDamage addon better?

[spice spire]

Hekili is playable these days

They had someone do a lot of work so it’s very very doable

But I’ll say (specifically in m+) our boss dam kinda dog

In raid we’re great tho

Also big fan

[rancid wind]

I noticed the APL doesn’t have a determined opener, but almost no one codes that these days, we haven’t had it for WW in years

[rancid wind]

Yeah I only care about raids, M+ is just to get ready for raids

[rancid wind]

Thank you

[spice spire]

Extremely based

But yeah our opener is kind of set.
Like loosely? The only diff is fatebound and trying to bait edge case (I think, idr the exact hero talent because I’m an anti gambling man)

Seal fate kind of changes it but that is what you get as you play more

[rancid wind]

Much appreciated. I should have just committed to being a Sin one-trick instead of swapping to Feral in SL

I just want to hurt bosses and let others pad

[spice spire]

Yeah but Koji existed then

But all the same, if you have any questions I do the lions share of the log review and you know whispyr is great at helping with whatever. There’s several helpful homies here as well, gl Babylonius

[bronze pike]

hi babylonius

[spice spire]

We also pad a little bit

[rancid wind]

Koji was one of my officers and longest gaming friends, he told me to play rogue back then lol

But we had a guild rule about not being a one-trick, so I couldn’t be the exception just bc I was the GM

[spice spire]

No I know you guys were in the same guild, two rogues tho, eh? He loosely shared (though I didn’t know about the not one trick rule) over the years.

[stuck island]

Hey guys, this is probably an already answered question, but is there anything special to try to do with Fatebound? Or is it, as the name suggests, mainly luck? Just the rotation and hope for multiple coin tosses?

[main blaze]

Is there a bug with thunderlord damage with multiple rogues or multiple of a class? Seems like it only proc's for one person or very few times over a fight for others except for one person.

[cerulean walrus]

Holy based it’s the penguin man

[maiden sierra]

man im torn...
i feel like i need to race change to orc for 14k more dps, but orcs are so fucking ugly...

[cerulean walrus]

Yeah but here’s the snorbler bud. 14k sim DPS that you’ll never notice because you’ll get targeted by a single mechanic or fuck up a single thing

Just play what ass you like staring at

[fallow canopy]

look good > 14k dps my g

[cerulean walrus]

Sincerely,
An Undead player

Wait I said what ass I like staring at

[maiden sierra]

i play a rogue, dying to a mechanic is a skill i do not posses lol

[fallow canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/caught-in-4k-that's-crazy-imangine-lol-gif-12731059316596799813

[cerulean walrus]

One feint is enough to curb that 14k

[maiden sierra]

you see, i love my belf

but not midmaxing dps in a top 500 guild i feel like im trolling lol

and if that 14k is enough to turn a gray parse into a green thats a win

[cerulean walrus]

Brother if you’re parsing grey or green

You got bigger problems than 14k

[maiden sierra]

tell that to my guild that decided to lock inn on pulls i fuck up

[cerulean walrus]

Oh you fucked up? Sounds like you have bigger problems than 14k

[maiden sierra]

real

[cerulean walrus]

Just play what you like

You aren’t going for WF bud it’s not that deep

[maiden sierra]

no joke, im still cringing on the fact that on our mythic council kill i sat there during damage amp not hitting boss because i did not have him targeted

[cerulean walrus]

Yeah okay so

I’ll say it again

To really lock it in

[maiden sierra]

i sat there wondering why my abilities did not work

[cerulean walrus]

Say it with me now

[maiden sierra]

i like belf ass

[cerulean walrus]

Good

[maiden sierra]

my black ginger male belf ass

[cerulean walrus]

Perfect

[shell crater]

Any ideas on what to look at to improve gameplay? I just feel like I'm a bit lackluster atm.

[brave comet]

so like at the beginning and at the second vulnerablity?

[balmy condor]

animegodbabs my goat

[jaunty sky]

Your logs and gear would be a good start

[brave comet]

you're a professional rogue, should i hold my CDs at the start of mythic court or should i save them for the beetle vuln phases?

[balmy condor]

do you have to hold dps on first shield?

like intermission 1

or are you guys full blasting it

[brave comet]

no i dont

[balmy condor]

okay if you're full blasting first intermission, use on pull

[maiden sierra]

ah mythic court... how they butchered that boss

[brave comet]

okay they just decided they wanna hold dps on shield, how would i do it with this strategy?

[balmy condor]

you would hold for the charge then

1 shiv when the bosses get stacked

then everything on the charge

[tawdry crypt]

why do I sometimes have a huge jump in energy after a pack ends

[tawdry crypt]

ty

[polar timber]

why is ds played more over fate even though it sims lower?

[dawn heath]

Sup gaymers

[tawdry crypt]

should I always delay dm/kb until after I use my 3 marks

for the extra damager

[dawn heath]

Seems like most people gave up pushing score on their rogues

[fresh kelp]

shaman is fun

main character pov kinda cool

getting every external in the game

[dawn heath]

Ye

We did some 17s today felt pretty good we would have done 3 but our priest disconnect in our most when we were on last boss

That was abit unfortunate

[winged sun]

Never heard of such minmax

[spice spire]

no you should not

[winged sun]

Btw does fatebound actually sim more

Thats interesting

[tawdry crypt]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[spice spire]

ST yeah

it's like 2%

anything beyond

it gets worse

[winged sun]

So u play fatebound for st bosses?

[dawn heath]

N

[winged sun]

Then what

Or is it just dslice st

[tawdry crypt]

its like 40k more damage

in st

[dawn heath]

You can if you want to gamba

[spice spire]

it's slightly more

but yeah

you're subject to more rng

but like objectively it is better for sikran/kyveza

[winged sun]

I see

[wanton snow]

How come wowhead and icy vein have 2 different build for m+?

[rotund oak]

its an ongoing conflict,there are many casualties at this war

(im joking)

btw for some reason fatebound sims higher for me(like 1.3% and im on vers/mast )

thats patchwreck

[snow kindle]

still weird to me it does

cause no one has parsed well on it

[rotund oak]

no idea

coinflippin' is rng,any logs could be a meme

ill try it nonetheless

[gloomy heart]

next season we can rng the rng

Anyone with the gilded crest reduction know if its way faster to gear alts?

[fresh kelp]

i geared a shaman this week

idk about way faster

the crest increase from keys and the decrease in crafted costs

makes a big difference

if its a fresh alt you don't have that many gilded upgrades to do tbh so the gilded reduction isnt too impactful

[gloomy heart]

630 mage

is my alt

still need some upgrades

[waxen oyster]

yeah i mean you can get through the champ track wall much easier

with cheaper gilded costs

One of your rings being 642 and good instantly is nice as rng garbage as the ring is

[gloomy heart]

my mage has 2 myth rings but idk how good they are tbh

mage players are mean

[manic coral]

is max ilvl on ring 642 right now? i was checking some dudes raider io and i see it in 645

[balmy condor]

Every time you faction change it resets the quest

There’s some lifeless fuckface out there who faction changed 5x

[coral ibex]

yea for an 89 on ulgrax

xdd

what a dweeb

[balmy condor]

xddddd

[manic coral]

ah lol

yeah idk i saw on speeds raider io and i just thought it was raider io that was bugged

[waxen oyster]

The same character or different ones?

[manic coral]

then i check wowarmory and yeah its actually 645

did stormbringers get nerfed btw

[balmy condor]

No gem tuning has occurred

[waxen oyster]

It's funny because i was tempted to buy one for an alt due to it being on sale rn

[balmy condor]

It’s the weekend before Christmas

Who tf gonna do gem tuning bruh

[manic coral]

i meant thunderlords crackling

haha the ones who dont celebrate christmas ig

[balmy condor]

99% sure that it’s a company holiday and even it wasn’t they are for sure on an end of year freeze

[slate crown]

That's not how holidays work in the US

[manic coral]

shi i dunno for us its only 24th and 25th thats off

but people still work on those days

[slate crown]

Same and same, but "work" that's being done is keeping the lights on, not making changes

[manic coral]

its crazy good pays thi

[slate crown]

not again

https://tenor.com/view/holly-logan-comedian-comic-not-today-satan-not-today-gif-15388448

[manic coral]

working evening shift for me on newyears or xmas is legit 250 %

[waxen oyster]

I mean let's be honest....

There's only 2-3 gems that would be in contention

If tuned

I highly doubt they'd redesign most of these gems.

[balmy condor]

Blizzard devs don’t work shifts mate

[manic coral]

no but surely you guys have bonuses for working on red days or?

[rotund oak]

im cookin' my hunter soon,definitely faster

8 crafts,some vault rng and u done

[bronze pike]

i want blizzard do undo it

[balmy condor]

I mean people working hourly get holiday pay yes

[bronze pike]

so bad

for funzy

[waxen oyster]

Dude blizzard barely does tuning when they are on the clock.

[balmy condor]

But when you’re on salary you’re on salary

[waxen oyster]

Let alone on holidays

[bronze pike]

cause i know people who did it would cry that blizzard reverted ring back to current ilvl

[balmy condor]

I mean should be a ban for 5 weeks

But we all know blizzard ain’t that mean

[waxen oyster]

nah whispyr

people "accidentally" did it again

because faction change was on sale

!

[balmy condor]

Yeah surely

[manic coral]

why yall hating, bro just changed his mind 5 times

[waxen oyster]

since its acc wide

[bronze pike]

wtb orc or troll for paladin

[waxen oyster]

cant you do it on alts

[balmy condor]

I couldn’t decide what faction to play on main so I spent over 2mil gold on faction changes

[slate crown]

I mean that's only what like 2.4M or so

oh you were typing that as I was

[waxen oyster]

its $42 for 3 faction changes rn

so uhh

proably less than 2.4m

[slate crown]

oh

that's right, the sale

[waxen oyster]

I think the 5 changes bundle is even cheaper

per

[balmy condor]

Still a dumbfuck

[rotund oak]

ill be taking double the money + extras as well

[manic coral]

bro trust me i am

xmas is dead since like 10 years ago either way, its just nice to eat good food and meet the family realquick

[slate crown]

It's just not how blizzard (and most software companys) operate

[waxen oyster]

let's be real

if they do gem tuning

[slate crown]

if I worked hourly and lived on my own I'd def work on xmas as well for the bonus

[rotund oak]

yup idk and dont care about blizzard devs anyway

[waxen oyster]

it might make the direct damage gems better

thats the only other competitive gems

[rotund oak]

i care about my bank account only

[waxen oyster]

i hate the fact you can proc

multiple stat procs from skipper's

at once

[rotund oak]

havent noticed but sounds fun

how's that translated in pvp

if its diminished im sad

[waxen oyster]

likely nerfed

[rotund oak]

[gloomy heart]

i have to redo the questline to get my alts ring?

[rotund oak]

nono

u just buy it

[manic coral]

u can buy some of the gems too?

[rotund oak]

yup form the vendors

[manic coral]

dope thats sick

[rotund oak]

ive checked yday on my mage,its all cool

very nice for alts

[gloomy heart]

How do i get there lady on the zepp not working

[rotund oak]

campaign skip yo

[golden loom]

The gems werent showing up from the vendors on my alts, but can just buy them on main and mail them to alts since they are warbound if that is the case for anyone else also 🙂

[gloomy heart]

^ yeah same

so i just put it in warband bank

[tawdry crypt]

is sin st just shit or what. in keys double vanish build with ironwire

[balmy condor]

considering nothing has changed in like 3 months

[tawdry crypt]

like 1 -1.2 mil st?

[balmy condor]

probably

if you think it was shit in like october

it's still just as shit

[tawdry crypt]

sick

[keen spruce]

it gets even shitter at high keys

cuz you start cooking energy with feint every 20s

[balmy condor]

[solar wyvern]

Grim batol 16 first boss rip my energy

[hard quarry]

heya fellas. what professions you go with your rogue!? im trying to figure out what to pick up!

[royal lantern]

profs dont matter

its gold making, not player power

[subtle tundra]

wellll

herbalism is useful in mists

blacksmith gets you a small buff in stonevault

tailoring in arakara(less useful)

tryan youre bad

shut up

dont care about your opinion

[royal lantern]

mists is herbalist/night elf/tauren/druid

stonevalut is warrior/dwarf/blacksmith

arakara is tailoring and no class for some reason

CoT is engineering/Rogue/Priest

maybe say everything and not just the prof itself bozo

[balmy condor]

holy

tryan with the receipts

[subtle tundra]

He asked prof

I gave him the answer

He is a rogue already so he doesn't care about city engi

For a m+ hater you know kind of a lot

[radiant raven]

Engineering is the best profession because it allows for maximum laziness which is the strongest benefit to sanity.

[runic hinge]

It’s been nice on the new island using the rocket boots and then engi glider to go much further than the one the boots give you

[royal lantern]

thats why i hate that failed mode in the first place

[oak tangle]

Alchemist cause I cbf paying for extra pots

[radiant raven]

Having a teleport to every zone, comical ways to explode, a mailbox and repairbot and vendor. Engineering is glorious.

[royal lantern]

tbf, the mailbox is kinda ussules since they gave us 3 toys that so the same with the same CD

[subtle tundra]

i have a 0 cd brutosaur

[radiant raven]

But what if I need a fourth mailbox in an instance

You'd not want to be caught without a fourth mailbox

[pliant remnant]

[brazen sluice]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/frokegmybo37tcZBqhWKHs any 1 knows why the telent recuperator is simming higher than vanish or lethality?

[balmy condor]

cause your dungeonroute is whack as shit

these things can happen when you sim unsupported fight styles

[brazen sluice]

so mdt sims has some fights which are not supported in the apl? trying to figure the most accurate way to sim m+

[balmy condor]

mdt sims fall prey to local maximas

its overfit

[vast patio]

Still more enjoyable than my mage in keys lol

[brazen sluice]

aha , and inorder to sim for a big pull m+ , does Dslice provide enough source for that?

[balmy condor]

dslice is a generic mixture of all situations

[hoary remnant]

Imo you should follow more guidelines in m+. Most important is cd usage. The question you should be asking yourself is are you getting full value of my cds here yes or no?

[brazen sluice]

im no expert but i try to understand the right way to sim my class , i asked some streamers including zeroocool and some chinese top logs dmg about how they sim , it varies some says 5t 5mins , other says Dslice is trash and u should do 8t 1min and 1t 3min and balance between them , others says mdt route and here most are saying Dslice , reason being is that some rare items such as the neck from raid sims way less aoe so do i bother getting it or not for example

[subtle tundra]

💀

[balmy condor]

I got maybe 1/5th of the way through that

I'm not reading the rest

[hoary remnant]

Also simming m+ if you pug most is a waste of time imo. Sim more what you should do with 3-5, 5-8 target count. Singletarget etc

[hoary remnant]

Idk you way overthink here stuff.

There are 3 rotations for every class singletarget then up to 5 mob cleave/aoe and mass aoe

[brazen sluice]

its not over think , but since this season is over alrdy i want the perfect way to start next season while knowing which items im aiming for

[balmy condor]

yeah, so you're overthinking

[brazen sluice]

no comment tbh , ty for the help

[subtle tundra]

you can do all that stuff, or sim dslice and get within .1%

[balmy condor]

nah rather than sim dslice and get close enough, we'd rather play russian roulette simming random mdt stuff and hoping it works out

why sim a robust fight style with variance when I can sim an insanely specific situation with no variance

[hoary remnant]

https://raider.io/characters/eu/uldum/Dagger

Your pugging most your keys so idk simming m+ route is kinda troll then

[golden loom]

Whats the best way to sim stuff like ulgrax/bloodhound/queen etc where its still a lot of singletarget but you would take spatter instead of IB. Do you just go by a 5min full singletarget patchwerk still and say fuck it because its too marginal to care at all?

[hoary remnant]

since spatter is passive you can just sim st

[golden loom]

ah true I guess it works out like that yeah

[hoary remnant]

also targets have to be alive long enough to be worth it. Ulgrax is troll since if you want to log only the pure boss dps counts, Bloodhound is w/e I would just blast boss only spatter boss worth it is Ovinax, Silken and Endboss

[golden loom]

yeah it was more like a general question, rather than boss specifics

just the archetypes

[rotund oak]

u can gain more power by buying boosts and boes and stuff,so indirectly it is 😉

[royal lantern]

shut up nerd

🤓

[rotund oak]

ild tear ur clothes and throw u to bed

in a civilized way

🤓

[wise whale]

blyat

[grim jay]

look at me I'm varas

I spend money

[subtle tundra]

gold, dummy

i would never spend 90 euros

[arctic socket]

90 euros of gold tho

[subtle tundra]

if only that was true

then id only play wow for gold farming

[winged sun]

guys this build sims -1.7% to take ironwire but im dropping sbs

is there a better alternative?

there is probably not much of a difference with those buidls but im just curious

[arctic socket]

If you have played without sbs before that’s the go to

[royal lantern]

sbs is mostly a "feel good" talent tbh

you just do rupture>fok>rupture instead of Rupture>rupture

[subtle tundra]

i play that in iron wire dungeon yes

stonevault

[coral ibex]

this is me when i go war mode on siren isle https://d.fixupx.com/weirddalle/status/1870855044608004177?s=46&t=_r7G00XNi7aK8onaLsbz8g

[noble void]

Last night I couldn't get the gems to drop, today they both dropped one after the other, first tries.

[zealous osprey]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[lyric coral]

hey guys for low keys ( 10s) should switch sudden demise to twist the knife talent ?

[spice spire]

Why would you

[lyric coral]

idk i am just asking

[spice spire]

Oh sorry I’m not egoing here

I genuinely want to know why you think you would

Thing is there’s 600 builds and they’re all fine

If your logic is trash is 10% of the dungeon but 90% of the time I feel like I’m in a boss fight, yeah I could see it,
But sudden demise is better in lower keys because you provide add damage (also due to execute)

[slate crown]

Don't worry Quake is this biggest liar out there (he's actually super wholesome and helpful and swell and neat and not at all toxic)

[spice spire]

So in the end, the why is completely subjective and up to the player. I personally find that it’s not but that doesn’t make my perspective of m+ any better or worse than yours

[spice spire]

Damn don’t out me like this - also you’re going to make me blush this am

[subtle tundra]

Oh my main target dies instantly, let's play ttk so it dies even instantlier

[spice spire]

Listen - if you’re spending negative time on trash; I see it.
I wouldn’t do it but I can see it.
But that’s also why I ask their thought process in wanting to change

[solar wyvern]

Exploit

[nova aspen]

multi-dollar company btw

[solar wyvern]

Definitely will be rolled back

Possibly banned but i doubt it

[worldly sail]

nothing of worth to prog with it

[grim jay]

most companies are multi-dollar companies. you need a certain amount to start one to begin with

[nova aspen]

didn't microsoft start in some guy's garage

how much money could they have had

[grim jay]

multiple dollars atleast

so its a multi-dollar company

[nova aspen]

true

[serene mason]

Racial Changes makes it possible to do the Quest which gives you the Upgrade multiple time - its a 100% ban 😄

[zealous osprey]

Aren’t Chinese servers run by Netease and therefore have their own enforcement (lack there of)

[nova aspen]

[solar wyvern]

Hmm maybe i should sim ring at 655 later to see how much of a gain it is

For science of course

[nova aspen]

paying for racial change for 3 ilvls on 1 ring

thats profits

[subtle tundra]

Lol thinking this is a ban

[nova aspen]

[solar wyvern]

Rollback at worst

Imo

[subtle tundra]

They didnt ban other things that were way more impactful

[gilded belfry]

this exploit makes them money. It'll stay in

[solar wyvern]

Well outlaw is naturally tankier than sin, so they just survived the exploit ban

[subtle tundra]

Just rollback it and make the punishment their money waste.

[grim jay]

ye they'll just say "thanks for the money, enjoy rollback"

thats it

[subtle tundra]

Fucking 30s cd evasion

[solar wyvern]

Hold on ill check not-even-close to see if i have enough defensives

[subtle tundra]

Suck my cock blizz

[brittle quail]

you really thik they care enough to rollback something like that ? lol they wont do anything especially since this one make them money

[nova aspen]

paying for 8 week early access on what is maybe 10-20k dps

yea i dont think they will do anything

[royal lantern]

its not about "making money" cus then they would never ban bots

Its just not something serious at all

if somebody wants to pay 100+ bucks on race/server swaps to upgrade the ring for 1% more dmg, they should send the person into a psyward

[brittle quail]

it is about making money and the ban bots in wave so bots stay on the game cuz they make money but they can also squiz them some more money what are you on

[royal lantern]

they ban bots in waves cus thats the only thing you can do really, idk what you mean lol

[subtle tundra]

Apparently getting all raid buffs before starting a key is still a thing. This is a thing. It ruins the integrity of competitive m+

[brittle quail]

thats just wrong

there is so many avenue to fight bots better than just doing wave

[royal lantern]

there are 2 ways you handle bots: ban extreme cases immediatly, and ban bigger groups in waves so they need longer to set stuff up again

[subtle tundra]

Imagine having a 10% dps increase over people not exploiting. That's a whole key level higher

[brittle quail]

it is just the lazy barely efficient way and

[brittle quail]

no there is way more

[royal lantern]

cus if you would focus on bot banning 24/7, that would be INSANE work force needed that nobody ever would do cus that would be insane

like, NOBODY does that

[brittle quail]

there is company that does that

but you dont need work force

[royal lantern]

oh ok, the "lazy" poped up, im out, its a capital G gamer that doesnt know anything about game infrastructure

[brittle quail]

just good system design to obfuscate the detection but banning pretty fast

sure man

[radiant raven]

It'd also make it very obvious what they were detecting and how. Another reason you do it in waves is because it makes identifying the cause of the ban much harder.

Just to add to the reason for the whole wave approach, which is pretty standard

[clever kindle]

no it must be the experts who are wrong

[royal lantern]

im not a expert, never said that

but its somewhat common knowledge that ban waves are done for a good reason, and "lol they want to earn money from bots xddddd" is not one of them

(if they want to earn money from bots, they would ban 24/7 so the botters would need to buy acc's+sub over and over again btw)

[clever kindle]

I meant the people who have worked in bot detection and removal for 10+ years at this point, as well as industry standards

[ocean quiver]

don't they do ban waves so that it's harder for bot makers to figure out what is being detected or something?

That's just what I heard for other games so might be the same here idk

[golden loom]

think atleast thats what has been said for runescape ban waves

[ocean quiver]

Heard about it in other games mainly, if they detect the aimbot that they use for example, they can just keep running trials until it bypasses that trigger or whatever

[royal lantern]

yes, thats 1 of the main reasons

[ocean quiver]

Anyway back to sin talk

Why do people always decline me in shit

I'm applying to 7's and some 6s (siege) and I just get declined

15min of applications all to just be declined, (618 ilvl too)

[tall jay]

Meta meta meta lol or the fact that ppl want you to be 630 to carry them?

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/paimon-genshin-impact-gif-3908335895994298600

[jaunty sky]

Because there's people with better score, ilvl or group utility applying

[ocean quiver]

it's a 7 tho 😢

[tall jay]

Maybe 😦

[ocean quiver]

Yeah I guess

Just cringe that it happens in low keys too

[jaunty sky]

Why take rogue if u can take a pala or shaman

[ocean quiver]

because it's a 7 ;/

you can run that shit with all healers and time it

[jaunty sky]

If u had the choice between 618 rogue and 625 shaman, who would you take

[ocean quiver]

I would take the rogue

every shammy I play with sucks

[jaunty sky]

Or 2k rio rogue or 2.3k druid

[ocean quiver]

a druid in a 7 can he even do any dps

how about a pro gamer that has numero 1 damage vs a random 2.3k druid. I would take the rogue

[uneven plume]

Ain’t no one checking logs on a 6

[ocean quiver]

💀

I did when I seen that 100 for key level

[uneven plume]

XD

[ocean quiver]

my life

7 maybe too hard for me

[uneven plume]

People are cautious at that key range. That’s the key range where alts buy boosts in bulk

[ocean quiver]

if people are so anal about that and check, they can see I am more than capable tho

[uneven plume]

They don’t know if it’s a true +7 or an alt afking for all their timed keys

[ocean quiver]

Surely they're using warcraft logs tho, if people are really caring that much about that they'd be checking, and if they checked me they'd see I can time a 7

[subtle tundra]

nobody is checking logs

especially for dungeons

even more so for a 6

[limber lion]

Literally no one

[normal mist]

you have the same ilevel than people who just play delves

[jaunty sky]

Also

[ocean quiver]

I get declined in every key

[normal mist]

Also, when people invite people to their party, they usually see big number = better

[jaunty sky]

Just push your own key

You have one for a reason

[normal mist]

You'd do the same

[subtle tundra]

welcome to pugging

[radiant raven]

Just gotta keep applying. Eventually the frustration of not getting into a 7 key will be replaced by the frustration of not getting into a 10.

[ocean quiver]

cant get gear if I can't do keys

[subtle tundra]

literally you'd get to 10s so much faster

if you did your own key

[jaunty sky]

Do your own key

[ionic fox]

Yeah, I am 638 almost 3.3k and I can't get into any keys 🙂 just do your own key

[ocean quiver]

I guess

I just hate listing keys

[subtle tundra]

thats how m+ has been since its introduction

its a community issue

[jaunty sky]

More than applying to keys?

[candid sun]

Make friends with a healer or tank

List your own key

[ocean quiver]

yeah

[candid sun]

Guaranteed run

[ocean quiver]

main reason I sit applying to groups for 40minutes

than listing my own

[ocean quiver]

idk how to make friends

[radiant raven]

I feel the same way, but sometimes it's just easier to list your own and go.

[candid sun]

Honestly

Felt that

[subtle tundra]

need my shit jorked...

[candid sun]

Been running with a holy priest lol

[jaunty sky]

Join random guilds until you find one you like

[candid sun]

I just used the lfg disc and posted an overly picky advert for friends

[ocean quiver]

I'm in a cool guild rn but they be doing mythic raids all the time

[candid sun]

You get some bites

[jaunty sky]

And no m+?

[ocean quiver]

yeah but they speak Arabic

[subtle tundra]

?!?!?!

then change guild

what

youre not bound to the guild or anything

[ocean quiver]

I am

they give me free raids when they clear heroic

💀

[coral ibex]

yea but then they can’t complain

why would they change things

easier to do nothing and complain about m+

[subtle tundra]

then get good enough to not need free raids

[dapper cradle]

arabic guilds go hard

[jaunty sky]

You're 618 you get next to nothing from heroic

[dapper cradle]

bro is on an israeli watchlist

[jaunty sky]

Only reason i run hc is to see if i can grab rash cloak and wrist mog to have hc set finished

[ocean quiver]

I still have champion pieces that are wack

[subtle tundra]

do you want free 10s too

or what

-.-

[ocean quiver]

No

You just hating for nothing

[subtle tundra]

im hating for a reason

[candid sun]

Being a hater keeps the heart healthy and strong

[subtle tundra]

cause youre complaining

[candid sun]

Spite is the spice of life

[arctic socket]

Varas

Are you angy today?

[subtle tundra]

nope!

[ocean quiver]

about declined in pugs

[subtle tundra]

slept 11 hours

[ocean quiver]

when i'm more than capable

[arctic socket]

Who hurt you

[subtle tundra]

yea buddy i was also a newbie at some point

[arctic socket]

11 hours?

[dapper cradle]

slept 11 hours, moisturized, hydrated, cozy and still in a seething rage

[radiant raven]

Being declined is part of the pug life. It's frustrating but that's how it goes. Get a WA that plays a funny sound whenever you get declined.

[jaunty sky]

If your key is a 6

You gotta do 2 good runs to have a 10

For myth track vault

[ocean quiver]

i'm not new

[arctic socket]

Everytime I get declined I have a wealaura that yells SUKA BYLAT in a angry women voice

[radiant raven]

Hell yes, this is the way to do it.

[subtle tundra]

you are based on your expectations

[jaunty sky]

I don't see why you'd complain about being declined for hours if you couldve formed a group AND done a dungeon in that time

[dapper cradle]

if you're not an enhance shaman or an aug (or giga omega high io), anything about 14s is literally just queue simulator

[ocean quiver]

Been playing m+ since start of SL

[smoky sable]

any tips on how to do more boss damage with m+ build? Im able to do big aoe damage but when it comes to bosses i feel like im doing no damage compared to other classes i play in their m+ build

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/99xGAPEm73Zf4b66uyQfft

[subtle tundra]

then how is your experience something unexpected lol

[smoky sable]

this is what i sim with my m+ build for st

[subtle tundra]

tldr
you dont

gg

[smoky sable]

😢

[ocean quiver]

womp womp

you hating for nothing

[subtle tundra]

nope im just being real with you

[ocean quiver]

I'm allowed an opinion bud

you just tryna argue for the sake of it

[humble verge]

damn

[subtle tundra]

so am i allowed to be blunt with you

[humble verge]

im stuck in a finished AK m+ run

i did at 4am

[ocean quiver]

there's being blunt, then there's trying to argue for the sake of it buddy

[humble verge]

cant even walk out :(

gotta port

[subtle tundra]

ok stay in queue for +6

gg

[ocean quiver]

Okay

[mighty vine]

You can try dropping Sudden Demise for Twist the Knife

[rotund oak]

Open your talent tree ===> Activate Sub 🤝

[rotund oak]

Orc xmas outfit... you had to be contained somehow bruh

[grim jay]

how about you rename to

Subzilla

dog

[rotund oak]

[arctic socket]

Subzilla

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/wig-meme-gif-25298825

[arctic socket]

[rotund oak]

everyone tries to steal my thunder and my names and all

malicious ppl

[grim jay]

I'ma steal your pants if you keep advocating sub

[rotund oak]

could allow that

lets vanish both

[spice spire]

Tell that fraud

[grim jay]

I'd be throwing hands if it wasnt for christmas

[rotund oak]

what did i do to deserve such aggression

me love u

[spice spire]

I’m just a hater sap I’m sorry

You don’t deserve that

[rotund oak]

u aint,im gonna send zilla in a couple of months to bite u

[spice spire]

Good I’ll pet him so many

[arctic socket]

Bites of love

[spice spire]

Need that

[humble verge]

eat dirt :(

[grim jay]

speaking of needing

dont worry if you get kidnapped tomorrow

I put you on my christmas wishlist

[spice spire]

Dog I’m at work tomorrow

[earnest remnant]

you guys need jesus

[spice spire]

TFYM

[spice spire]

Got that

[earnest remnant]

thats what you need

[spice spire]

I need the stealthussy rn

[arctic socket]

A guy named Jesus?

[earnest remnant]

[arctic socket]

Stealhussy is a wild thing to read

Early

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/paul-rovia-jesus-twd-tom-payne-paul-jesus-rovia-twd-gif-24300224

[spice spire]

Dog it’s 11:22 am ur time

That ain’t early

[earnest remnant]

5:22 pm for me

and that was still wild to read

[arctic socket]

Bro know my time zone

[grim jay]

based timezone

[arctic socket]

Location

Stalker

[spice spire]

Mf you’ve literally told me everything I know about you wat

[spice spire]

And yet I’m better here than I am privately

[grim jay]

I wear black boxers currently

[arctic socket]

but you remembered it

[spice spire]

Hell yeah

[arctic socket]

[spice spire]

I remember most things big dog.
Like it’s a skill from my job

Also people deserve to feel like they matter

[grim jay]

I do aswell, so I can get more money from people