assassination

[balmy condor]

I mean the timegating is weird as hell

time gate the ilvl and the gems

[split veldt]

timegating the ilvl, i get it, sure, something to do each week, but gating the gems is omega cringe

[raven egret]

The timegate is weird, the last minutes changes are weird, that island is boring ass shit. Great time today!

[dawn heath]

i mean i can understand timegating one of them sort of to have theeir player engagement metric somewhat relevant

[split veldt]

i prayge the gems change each day at least

[dawn heath]

but this is not the way

[raven egret]

Worst thing is the Ilvl doesnt mean shit, all it does it give you more stam, which is great dont get me wrong, but people going 'OMG 658 SO MUCH POWER' are high af

[dawn heath]

having people not equip the ring cause the weekly rotation is wrong for them is just such flawed design

[fleet echo]

Still better than the Dragon Isles ring. At least we're guaranteed the damn gems

[dawn heath]

maybe they have to wait 3-4 weeks before they get their good gems?

idk

very sus

[balmy condor]

in theory all gems by reset 3

[dawn heath]

💀

[fleet echo]

Most likely

[raven egret]

Yeah

[balmy condor]

4 every week, 12 total

[dawn heath]

by then i want to play plunderstorm

done with the patch

please release soon

[balmy condor]

real

[split veldt]

i lose 2% crit and 5% mastery putting on this ring kekw

[raven egret]

Don't you like all this content, its an island. And theres a storm. On the island! CONTENT!

still, just hoping we get all the remaining mastery gems next week, equip it and get it over with

[balmy condor]

current gems aren't worth equipping

it's like -3%

[dawn heath]

i'm kind of wondering if this ring will be sort of gamebreaking for any specs there has been a few outliers in the past scaling well with damage procs

[amber brook]

Atleast the mount is nice

[dawn heath]

or if its gonna be like a 1-3% dmg gain for most specs

at caped ilvl

[raven egret]

yeah once I get all stat gems, I'll lose all my for sure, and some crit, I think sim wants me to go all haste enchants XD

[balmy condor]

they're like 2-4% for everyone

it helps that the best setup is just secondary stats

[rotund idol]

Outlaws reading this rn

[balmy condor]

for basically everyone

[raven egret]

the dmg procs would have to be absolutely insane to lose all the stats of a regular ring

[dawn heath]

are they stated equally to a similar ilvl ring?

[spice surge]

The famous mastery stacking outlaw build

[balmy condor]

slightly higher

658 ring is equal to like a 675 ring last I checked

[dawn heath]

gotcha

[balmy condor]

depends if the interaction with the rng gem is intended

[dawn heath]

do u need to go 3x different stats?

i've only seen the mastery stat gem

[balmy condor]

pins

[junior shore]

timegating the ilvl makes sense

timegating the gems is comically bad

[dawn heath]

i just said this

[brave comet]

whats the most difficult phase of myth court?

[balmy condor]

yeh it's legit just worse than 10.0.7

very strange patch

[balmy condor]

first

[raven egret]

Waiting on your teammates to do their job in P1

[dawn heath]

i'm abit confused to what the legendary skipper citrine does

is it like a stat proc?

[spice surge]

It proccs literally any other gem

[dawn heath]

but it doesnt have flat stats then it procs the stats of the the stat gem u put into the ring

or does it have 150% of the stat of the other gem permanently?

[balmy condor]

no, it procs ANY other gem

any of the other 11

[lament bolt]

So the four gems available today are each on a different vendor - earthen, goblin, arathi, and tortollan. 12 gems total, I'm betting all of them are on a three week rotation depending on if it's vrykul, naga, and pirates. Hopefully it's that predictable at least

[gloomy heart]

@balmy condor delete ur log thanks

wtf man

[plain wind]

!wa

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[balmy condor]

is this rash

[drifting cloud]

bro aintnoway you reclearing again

[gloomy heart]

yeah 😦

[drifting cloud]

wait its heroic nvm just end me

[gloomy heart]

5 seconds man.

[soft surge]

fresh pins

[static glen]

Whats the grim build again?

[spice spire]

It’s raid time bud

You’re likely gonna be sent way back

[balmy condor]

I think grim's playing a cast on shock archmage

[bright cipher]

do you have one of those for ansurek?

[coral ibex]

i didn't make it sorry

[slate crown]

what what's left and right is that port and starboard?

clockwise counterclockwise

east west

[coral ibex]

is it your left or my left

boss relative?

[gloomy heart]

ITS HEROIC

GO AFK

[runic hinge]

Send him to the gulag quake

[gloomy heart]

NOOOO

I hope you DC

[cedar elm]

anyone have a weak aura just for the kingsbane stacks only?

[gloomy heart]

idc if you pass me, ive come a long way!

[spice spire]

I have no power here anymore

No raid tn

Meant just in general

[runic hinge]

Yeah we’re done raiding too

[spice spire]

Lot of people raiding about now

[runic hinge]

We did rbgs on raid night

[spice spire]

We did cheevo run last Wednesday

Was hella fun

[drifting cloud]

mount collector quake

[runic hinge]

I missed cheevo run cause I was drunk

[spice spire]

Absolutely not dog

Like

I think I have 124 mounts

One of which is ashes

[drifting cloud]

sounds like you have atleast 1 I dont have!

[spice spire]

[median igloo]

what's average dawnthread lining uptime for raids?

[undone shale]

awesome patch

[drifting cloud]

worked like that before the patch

[spice spire]

Yep initial dot always ticked if you don’t precloak

[silk palm]

Is there a best time or spell I should macro Skardyn’s to?

[spice surge]

Deathmark

[silk palm]

Righto

I appreciate it! Same cd, so makes sense.

[median flicker]

!wa

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[cloud marsh]

its interesting, i just simmed the new ring and it says its better than my 619 GB ring

i guess ilvl does make a big diff in the end

Just to make sure, when I sim for a M+ context all I have to change in the sim is Patchwork -> Dungeon Slice correct?

[blazing pumice]

yep

you might want to remove raid buffs tho

[cloud marsh]

Where can I find that option? And if I’m simming stuff with the purpose of knowing what gear set is the best, does it matter?

Like I dont sim to see how much dmg I can do, but to see whats my best gear set up. If that makes sense

[blazing pumice]

it won't make a big difference, but having motw will make stuff like proc damage trinkets more valuable

[cloud marsh]

Thanks!

[blazing pumice]

whereas battle shout will do nothing

[cloud marsh]

Thats what I imagined. I just found where it was! Thanks for your help!

[split veldt]

[sonic schooner]

-69k

[balmy condor]

incredible

[bright tartan]

Ring

[dapper cradle]

siren isle is pretty ass ngl

i tried not to doom

but shit is straight caca

[earnest timber]

its mole people content

what do you expect

[fallow canopy]

is just another daily hub but somewhat emptier at least compared to the DF one

[atomic relic]

when servers come online in eu?

[shadow badger]

i got 2 niche rotation questions.

1. if im 1 cp off of 7 cp and i have darkest night off should i fan of knives to get it and save the energy? or wait for energy to get another mutilate.

2. should i be trying to rupture ads on bossfights that are about to die to juice my energy back up.

[glacial crypt]

1. muti
2. no

[shadow badger]

thank you 👍

[glacial crypt]

it feels good but isn't a dps gain to just leaving them alone, rupture them if they'll live 12 secs

[atomic relic]

how about poisnd knife?

[runic hinge]

No

Even worse

[glacial crypt]

god I love the spell but i had to unbind it because i built up the habit of doing that

[bright tartan]

Whispyr likes this spell

[shadow badger]

should i be poison knifing if im stuck in range for a mechanic or just do nothing

[atomic relic]

me too xDDD

[glacial crypt]

Yes but don't burn all of your energy

[dapper cradle]

i save thistle tea for poison knife windows

[glacial crypt]

like if you need CP + you're overcapping energy anyway just throw them bitches

[glacial crypt]

🙏

[shadow badger]

im never overcapping energy idk how yall pool so well

[dapper cradle]

tabbed out watching youtube vods

[shadow badger]

lmao

im always trying to fit as many envenoms as i can into my kb windows but then i come out with no energy

[keen rover]

Anything we should focus in the new area?

Nvm i see pins ty

[coral ibex]

focus on the log out button

[soft surge]

do not set your hearthstone there

biggest mistake ever

[novel star]

silken court

reclear

[balmy condor]

unbind poison knife

like seriously

for your own good

99.9% of people that use that ability

use it WAY too much

cause typically using it once

is too much

it's so insanely inefficient

[coral ibex]

yea like maybe as you are running the opposite direction of a boss before an intermission

maybe

[atomic relic]

servers on in eu?

[dapper cradle]

can we upgrade the ring at all this week?

[sage spade]

servers are off in eu dunno when they will be on

[balmy condor]

once

to 642

[dapper cradle]

ty, found the upgrade item in my bags after doing all the quests but not seeing it initially

[spice spire]

okay I did it - season deadge though.
Raid vault was from achievement run tho

[gentle rover]

Alright, I might be an idiot how do I get this tides of greed quest? or did I already do it? I can't find legendary skipper in my bags 🤦‍♂️

[gentle rover]

Nvm, reread the pin and now realize that is a weekly just not this weekly

[balmy condor]

read pins please

[gentle rover]

Thank you

[balmy condor]

yep

[dapper cradle]

directing to pins by screenshotting pins

[balmy condor]

dude

you should've been here earlier

[dapper cradle]

i feel for you bro ngl

every tuesday whispyr has to take calming medicine

[gentle rover]

In my defense I read the pin, I just didn't comprehend it lol

[dapper cradle]

IS THIS MY BIS

[balmy condor]

when servers came up I deadass answered a question and two mfers asked the same fucking question back to back right after

I lost my shit

[coral ibex]

getting to p1.5 on first real queen prog night

this feels like heroic+ after court

lmao

[lethal turtle]

After all the nerfs they are heroic +

[balmy condor]

yeah its bonkers

[grim plover]

Is eu live yet

[weary spear]

is ulgrax adds deleted from parses? if so is intermission counted as downtime

[balmy condor]

yes it seems so

[coral ibex]

W

internal bleeding forever

[weary spear]

if the intermission takes like 2 minutes does that poop on your dps tho

[balmy condor]

yes

[gloomy heart]

I CAN WEAR THIS EARLY?

[dawn heath]

Not sure if i should run a 639 sacbrood over my 626 crystal for m+. The sims suggest that its a very slight gain however i think that the sims favor sacvrood over crystal since sims are always in combat and the 1minute sacbrood buff gets wasted in downtime where as the crystal wont idk tho

[coral ibex]

sim them in patchwerk with m+ talents

sac should be a lot better vs bosses

[dawn heath]

Its 10k better in st

But its +6k in dslice

[dapper cradle]

I love internal bleeding so much it’s unreal

The wow ability is cool too

[snow kindle]

it depends cause the buff on sacbrood falls off fast

[amber brook]

idk, had a sac sim lower for me than crys

[soft surge]

i have this dilemma too, along with a 626 ritual knife

[coral ibex]

are we supposed to beat the 3rd wrest in mythic

in first intermission

[dawn heath]

Also wondering if anyone has experience with Siege last boss on 17 do we live the initial with just prefeint?

Or do i need to play icy preservation flask

[dapper cradle]

Maghar orc is bis for enhance now after the race changes

Any updates on race sims for sin?

[gloomy heart]

wtf

thats insane no?

[blazing pumice]

no

[gloomy heart]

Its bad?

[blazing pumice]

no

[gloomy heart]

Fly guy

[blazing pumice]

racials are worth squat for dps

doubling squat damage is still squat

[gloomy heart]

but my parse...

[gloomy heart]

need you eu rogues to ignore heroic for today, me and whispyr need our parse

[dapper cradle]

thanks for posting this

guess we're bing chilling

[gloomy heart]

Anything wrong here https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/F1tRdGWY83AHjpZn?fight=17&type=damage-done&source=3

[strange python]

where's the string to sim all races?

[balmy condor]

#tc-research

[balmy condor]

yeh first big issue I see

you're not me

[gloomy heart]

Youre so right

other than that

i hope i didnt throw dagger in there

[balmy condor]

looks okay

[gloomy heart]

LOL

[balmy condor]

didn't see anything glaring

[winged sun]

whispyr is around my schedule

[balmy condor]

I did notice you don't consume ctw though

like at all in your opener

or just

at all at all it seems

consuming on accident

[gloomy heart]

Yeah bad habit

I used to, then i saw some ppl not do it but i should

Also is there a way to hide a WA on one toon

I have a pve and a pvp rogue, i dont want ur wa pack on my pvp rog

[balmy condor]

you can load by class/spec

oh

you can also load only in raid/dung

[gloomy heart]

How do i do that

[balmy condor]

click on the group as a whole

and then at the bottom of the load tab

[small sequoia]

i have a hard time with ST, can you guys see what im doing wrong? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/vFfR8gnMwyJ3mQXd?fight=1&type=damage-done&source=14

[balmy condor]

honestly could probably do this?

or double click the size type

and then just select all the pve ones

lots of ways to do it tbh

[balmy condor]

this opener is already insanely whack just for starters

you just rip straight into cds with no setup and then don't press your second shiv until forever later

your shiv timings seem to be a common habit

[gloomy heart]

!wa

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[balmy condor]

shiv is 8 seconds, 2 charges should be 16 seconds back to back, or like at least 15 and a half or whatever

[outer turtle]

Can we wear the ring or is not bis this week?

[balmy condor]

so you shiv->kb

and it should cover the whole thing

but you kb -> shiv

and then have a gap

so your second shiv is consistently just buffing absolutely nothing

[small sequoia]

ahh, i see!!

[balmy condor]

the gems available this week are terrible

it's like -3%

[balmy condor]

it gets worse and worse as time goes on btw

like you're completely off the rails by the time your cds come up again

deathmark -> shiv is fine

[small sequoia]

ah so the shiv line up is super important.

[balmy condor]

and then it just flies off the cliff

the kingsbane is super giga late

there just... isn't a second shiv

also remind me to come back to whatever this is cause those 5 gcds are like moses parting the red sea of downtime

something is super fucked here

being off the boss for 30 full seconds is diabolical

[dusk onyx]

Cause of Pin, is it worth going through island with alt first? To maybe get BiS Gem then on rogue!?

[balmy condor]

no

the people who have seen alternate gems can't claim them

[dusk onyx]

oh

[balmy condor]

this is really close to being good actually

the second shiv is just late again and I haven't seen you press vanish in nearly 5 minutes

which is kind of a big problem

[gloomy heart]

the best way to parse is

[subtle tundra]

w-woof

[gloomy heart]

kick your feet up

crack a monster

and press buttons

[balmy condor]

and then something idk 15 more seconds of downtime and a potion and boss dies good enough

alrighty lets go back and see what happened here

[small sequoia]

ah when do i vanish for MA? at KB?

[balmy condor]

last 6 of KB technically

[small sequoia]

ok

[balmy condor]

but you can do it earlier than that without much issue

just don't do it later

so like if you vanish with 10 left on kb or 8 or whatever that's chill

just gotta be within deathmark, after a couple seconds of kingsbane

you're trying to get improved garrote up

and master assassin for your kingsbane

[subtle tundra]

YOU VANISH AT 50 STACKS OF KB. OR 6 SECONDS. IF YOU DONT TRACK THE STACKS, YOU ARE PLAYING WRONG

[small sequoia]

ah

[balmy condor]

shut up varas

[subtle tundra]

ok

[balmy condor]

OH NO

[subtle tundra]

why is my parse bad(STUNENED)

[balmy condor]

webbed for like 10 seconds and then 5 gcds into boss move into no movespeed and no shadowstep

yeah

that'll do it

R O U G H

pins

[gloomy heart]

my issue today was standing infront of bosses and getting parried KB's

[balmy condor]

yeah so on the rash moves exi, you gotta be stepping people and shit

you're a rogue you got tools

[small sequoia]

yeah i just play alot of M+, so i need to practice my ST rotation on raid spec.
I don't currently do well with imp garrotte+vanish and double shiv in my rotation. I'll work on that!

[balmy condor]

you're sprinting on cd

which is like

fine I guess if they're good casts for uptime

but then you're casting shadowstep twice in 6 min

bit rough

mouseover macro might help or something so you can step to a monk or a mage or whoever is just teleporting a million miles ahead of you

that's a good one

you can also just step the boss

when they're off the platform like that, they put you on the platform in front

you don't just like, die

so should just be automatic that you're stepping rash every time he moves

[gloomy heart]

i think i should just start selling heroic runs all day

i hate keys

[manic sphinx]

FYI, this analysis is really helpful for me too. Stepped into heroic first time yesterday. I'm terrible, lol. 627 so got insta invite, and cleared 8/8 without knowing fights before hand. But my dps was absolute rubbish, haha. Guess I was more worried about staying alive than doing dps - but yea, all my rotations and whatnot were tototally scuffed

[bronze plover]

morning everyone

which ring should i replace with new one ?

[balmy condor]

neither cause the ring sucks atm

probably gonna be the bottom once you get the good gems in like 2 weeks

but that's why we have sims

[gloomy heart]

you will get better at dps when you know the rotation by heart and mechanics

[balmy condor]

and then the next thing exi, hopefully the last, I don't wanna be blasting you or anything

[gloomy heart]

people in this discord are very helpful, i went from a stubborn 60 parser to parsing 95 average on heroic

[balmy condor]

but good god man you gotta be using your cp this is a lot of waste

[manic sphinx]

Hope so! Now that easier crests are here, looking to finally upgrade all my gear and push past 11s

[balmy condor]

some waste is natural for darkest night

but some of this is crazy lowkey

either you got insano unlock and just had to mut on 6 every time or you're not always paying attention

I can't really tell

cause it would be a pain in the ass to check every cast

but just keep an eye on it

[small sequoia]

so just env on 5

instead of waiting for 7

[balmy condor]

yeh, should be all finishers on 5

[small sequoia]

all. ok

[balmy condor]

only time you force 7 is darkest night

cycling the mark more for more darkest nights

is gonna beat out forcing yourself to 6 or 7 and wasting cp and energy from the extra muts and bleh

[small sequoia]

should i worry about energy capping

or just let it happen and focus on the rotation

[balmy condor]

technically shouldn't be possible

outside of like cds where you're already full slamming

[solar laurel]

should i start quests for gem on my alts first or main?

[small sequoia]

ok

[balmy condor]

you can safely just go down to 0 and bottom out your energy

[manic sphinx]

In Raid, should you be focused on getting deathstalkers mark on the lets say active or near boss? Or is that for figuring out later. Like on the 2 bosses in SV, when one flies away. Or in like raid with council?

[balmy condor]

technically you can play around not overcapping your second stack of envenom

twist the knife and all that

don't wanna really waste uptime

but it's really not that important

[balmy condor]

there's no difference in doing either

[bronze plover]

do u usually consume one darkest night before second shiv and then vanish am i right?

[balmy condor]

you get the same unlocks

so you can do whichever you want I guess

[small sequoia]

this is really helpful

[balmy condor]

I don't understand the question, you should always have the mark on the thing you're hitting

[small sequoia]

i also need to look at the opener again

[balmy condor]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

so ambush -> rup -> env

you're at 1 stack left

then you go cds

so you press your dm, first shiv, kb

and then you env which then triggers darkest night

so I guess if you're lucky with your cp gen from seal fate

you could get a darkest night off

before you need to shiv

I haven't really thought about that ever

but sure yeah timing kinda adds up

[barren forge]

guess hes talking about switching bosses like court. in this case you should wait for the skip if youre not sure if you can blast a full cycle into the soon disappearing one

[balmy condor]

oh yes

[manic sphinx]

Yea, I mean, should you plan to have darkest night proc by consuming 3 stacks, before u change boss? Another example is is Stitchflesh in NW. Should I consume 3 stacks of Deathstalkers mark, and only then switch to Stichflesh when he jumps down?

[balmy condor]

you should hold your darkest night if you need to transfer

[manic sphinx]

Ya, that's it, thx Gee

[barren forge]

yw

[small sequoia]

gona go hit dummies

[balmy condor]

gl

[small sequoia]

tyvm!

[balmy condor]

also minor thing that's probably irrelevant

but I'd play forced induction over lethality

pretty much always and forever

[gloomy heart]

If i name change do i lose my parses

[balmy condor]

it shouldn't make a difference in raw single target but forced induction is more condensed damage in your burst and if you're playing caustic then technically more bigger envenom during burst might be more aoe

[ebon prism]

master whispyr is there a bis M+ build yet, or still like 3-4 variants that are best?

[gloomy heart]

He doesnt m+

[balmy condor]

it's pretty nebulous but it should technically just be better

[gloomy heart]

wrong person to ask

[balmy condor]

I mean

I don't m+

that doesn't mean I don't know what builds are good lmao

[gloomy heart]

tru

[balmy condor]

but yeh there's still like 50 things that people play

[ebon prism]

ok np

[small sequoia]

ya i just play m+ all the time, and raid when i need to one day a week lol

[balmy condor]

mostly a combination of like sbs/ttk/sanguine/sudden demise

master assassin gets dropped as well

[ebon prism]

as long as uhhhh MA, double vanish, and ttk is still viable

[balmy condor]

yeah that's fine

[small sequoia]

i just play the old hybrid build, it works great for me

[balmy condor]

as long as you play well you could basically just throw darts at your talent tree and it'll be aight

[frosty bridge]

wait so is it the play to the quest on an alt first and then on your main or?

[limber lion]

No

[rotund oak]

idk why,i dont like new patch

like at all

[ebon prism]

whats even changed for us?

[balmy condor]

no

doesn't matter

rewards are the same

[brittle quail]

but its useless for now cause we need the right gem ?

[subtle tundra]

ive changed..

[ebon prism]

varas are u still pushing io? or youre clear for title so chilling?

[wind totem]

is it ever worth it to use fan to get from 6 to 7 cp if you are in Darkest Night?

[balmy condor]

I'm just gonna repin that

so that people get the little red dot

and pray they read

[balmy condor]

no

[jolly heath]

is new Mag'har Orc racial update good enough, it's like free skardyn

[balmy condor]

#tc-research

tldr is it's good but not bis

[wind totem]

so just garrote if you are in pandemic otherwise mutilate. Got it.

[balmy condor]

yeh

[small sequoia]

ok great, i get about 1.1m on dummy with no buffs 😄

[balmy condor]

sounds reasonable

[rotund oak]

nothing i just dont like the whole forbiden reach kind of thing all over again

[subtle tundra]

i have to do the ring on 3 characters

meow meow meow meow...

[dawn pollen]

dosn't take that long

[subtle tundra]

it takes more than 0 minutes?

if so, it takes too long

[dawn pollen]

xD

[balmy condor]

the content is in no way good enough to justify doing it on 3 characters

so I get it

[rotund oak]

yeah i dont like it either,im not gonna do it on my mage,rogue and something else.Its cringe

[balmy condor]

like lets be totally honest

this patch is really just two lore questlines

with the khadgar kirin tor thing

and the intro to 11.1 with the goblin questline

and that is not enough content for the user metrics

especially since they need to finish end of Q4

[ebon prism]

does anyone know if theres a service to rent tanks for keys? like i just want to pay someone 100k per key to queue with me

[balmy condor]

so they split the quests in 2

one this week, one in 3 weeks

and then hamfisted the fucking ring on top just to have something to make people log in

but none of this content had any effort put behind it

and it is very obvious

[little frost]

classic better experience LOL ❤️

[balmy condor]

like it is just to get you to log in

and that's it's job

and they will tune and tweak the gems to make that happenn

and it'll work

[wind totem]

100k sounds good. You on eu?

[ebon prism]

NA 😦

i need a 3100+ tank tho

[wind totem]

pfff

picky

[ebon prism]

well i need to finish 13's

[gloomy heart]

is CT even worth for queen h

[ebon prism]

prob not

[balmy condor]

you'd have to argue a lot for CT in queen m

so I'm gonna say it's a hard no for heroic

[ebon prism]

just caustic and full ST

[balmy condor]

people have made pretty lousy and unconvincing arguments for CT on mythic queen

[rotund oak]

this makes me mad

[balmy condor]

but there just ain't no way there's enough adds for CT on heroic

[balmy condor]

yeah I mean it is objectively bottom of the barrel content

but dps is dps am I right

[bronze plover]

in hc warriors and DH dont give a chance for CT

[ebon prism]

it's like.... 10 min of content tbh. not rly even much

[frosty bridge]

idk man you guys are haters, its not that bad

[subtle tundra]

only means keys will go 1 key level higher so i have to keep pushing

grargrhrhr

[balmy condor]

I mean even without DH and warriors, there's just like, not enough mobs

[golden loom]

Does the isle have good music/vibes?

[balmy condor]

it's an unused island expedition map from BFA

so

if you like the vibe of that

[golden loom]

Well BFA music fucking slaps

So im hopeful

W patch

[rotund oak]

this is true thats why it makes me mad..

[balmy condor]

I am a hater, because I expect better

[subtle tundra]

well they are releasing things for the sake of releasing things

[balmy condor]

blizzard just copy pasted their way into a whole ass patch just to drive user metrics for their end of Q4 metrics

and I'm not okay with that

so yes

I will hate

a greedy ass company giving me shit quality for something I paid for just for shareholder metrics

is not something that makes me happy

[frosty bridge]

sadly you are right

.7 having irrelevant balance changes and no reworks is sad

[brittle quail]

i dont like you complaining its fucking annoying

but its also so fucking true

shit blizzard

poe just killed d4

[balmy condor]

I try to be annoying with a purpose generally

[subtle tundra]

buff.. windwalker... spin

[brittle quail]

and you dont even try to save wow

[subtle tundra]

I WANT TO SPIT

SPIN*

SPIT ASWELL

but look at the bright side

[balmy condor]

I mean that's the thing right, why would they try to put effort in when this whole patch is going to be a resounding success

[subtle tundra]

its christmas guys

[rotund oak]

what does poe and d4 have to do with anything man its the stupid patch thats boring that makes me mad..

[subtle tundra]

its almsot christmas

[balmy condor]

I ain't immune to it

like I fully realize what they're doing, I'm pissed about it

but 2% ring is 2% ring

so guess what

[frosty bridge]

well

[balmy condor]

I'm gonna log in every week

and it's gonna fucking work

[frosty bridge]

we'll have 11.1 PTR soon i guess

[balmy condor]

and they know that

[manic sphinx]

How disappointing. 639 mistcallers in vault, but still not better than my 619 Ritual Knife 😦

[balmy condor]

oh yeah mistcallers is hot dog ass

[frosty bridge]

nah i mean its completely understandable considering this might be the worst season in wow history

[iron jasper]

seems op no?

[balmy condor]

that trinket has never been even remotely good

[manic sphinx]

The trinket grind continues. Between my priest and rogue, i've run GB 65 times now 😦

[balmy condor]

[brittle quail]

well biggest competitor to diablo just made an early acces better than their game after month of support i just hope for an mmo that can do the same to wow cause patch like this are a disgrace to the game

[balmy condor]

I gotta make a pin for racials don't I

what a timeline we live in

[rotund oak]

ive had arakara and spyglass now,guess its spyglass angle over my ritual knife and im not even sure its that much better

[balmy condor]

somehow I expected nothing from this patch and I'm still depressed

honestly impressive

[manic sphinx]

actually for me my knife sims better than arakara one. i have spyglass too. its just skardyn im missing

[novel star]

i thought it was just nothing

[manic sphinx]

haha

[novel star]

a command is enough surely

[balmy condor]

it is nothing, but we've had like 4-5 people in the last hour

[brittle quail]

didnt read ptr was expecting a somewhat cool ring maybe stuff to do but nothing major

[balmy condor]

so clearly the info is not findable

[frosty bridge]

as if these people will read pins before asking

[brittle quail]

still disapointed

i mean how can it be this bad

[frosty bridge]

but it will allow people to hit them with the

[clever sapphire]

There is no content in 11.0.7

[rotund oak]

honestly im missing crystal myth track and skadryns,thats all.Im gonna upgrade spyglass and craft a 2nd wpn and im 636-ish

[gloomy heart]

you mean this trinket !

[balmy condor]

and if they don't we'll just dive back into a slowmode

[frosty bridge]

[manic sphinx]

Yea, but does the ring look cool on peoples' fingers tho? 😮

[balmy condor]

yo true

finger transmog

[frosty bridge]

[clever sapphire]

i hope i can make it invis, i dont want a shitty ring on my fingers

[manic sphinx]

Nice! I'm looking to craft a couple more pieces this week, now that its cheaper. Hopefully inch uptowards 630

[golden loom]

Aint no way another thing to complain about just dropped

[brittle quail]

you mean the trinket i'm never gonna have the whole season cause this system is shit ?

[gloomy heart]

🙂

[clever sapphire]

nono its gonna drop, in your last vault of the season

[rotund oak]

[brittle quail]

nono S3 df dagger never dropped

i lost hope already

[balmy condor]

Racial update

No, they still all suck and don't matter. None of the buffs made things OP or whatever, they buffed garbage racials to be not garbage, and that's it
Single Target
Dungeon Slice

[brittle quail]

this shit need to change

[balmy condor]

good enough

we just let that simmer for like 2 days

and then delete

[timid vortex]

I managed to get this one to show up on my 2nd char in the panel but didn't drop for me

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/705299071396610148/1318842159092338769/image.png?ex=6763caf9&is=67627979&hm=27d1e182e4c07a148553007462c2e662dfe814643adf125a4caad0ea853e8e93&

[balmy condor]

....yes

that's exactly what the pin says

that you replied to

[timid vortex]

[frosty bridge]

big L that the gems aren't all available week 1 or at least 2

[balmy condor]

okay well thanks for sharing

[frosty bridge]

lowkey onyx annulet was kinda fun farming 2 rings and double the gems

[timid vortex]

Just tryina figure out how to get forbidden gems...

[manic sphinx]

Shall I get the Myth Mistcallers, just so that I have higer ilvl for ppl to maybe consider me inviting into groups? 🤔

[golden loom]

Bis upgrade

ilvl so you get to play the game

[manic sphinx]

lol, true

[subtle tundra]

huh

whats mistcallers

[serene solar]

Silly trinket

[subtle tundra]

the mist trinket?

dont fucking get that ass

[serene solar]

Yeah the ocarina lmfao

[balmy condor]

1 from quest, 2 from table event, 1 from weekly, and if you unlocked them on a main you can buy them on main and transfer to alt through bank I think

Any other gem that shows up than the 4 listed in the pins is bugged and unobtainable

Because blizzard had two months to copy and paste content and couldn’t figure it out

And now we’re stuck in this shithole

[brittle quail]

yeah seeing 2 month ptr for those bug on release

[serene solar]

Whispyr you have the myth egg from ovi right? We just downed that boss tonight so we are on to myth court prog.

Used the trink in keys a bit after raid. Is it just 20mastery/10agi for the best results?

[brittle quail]

😂

[clever sapphire]

aye, our raidlead keeps saying 2 to the right. And i keep telling them just go 2 clockwise, and then i hear "but it depends from where you look at the clock"

[brittle quail]

what a joke

[fleet coral]

just completed the campaign and it stuck wait a word from khadgar so how hould i get the ring

[serene solar]

I have never used the trink before today

[balmy condor]

20 agi better

[clever sapphire]

long story short, we called the raid 1:30h early because people sucked so badly

[timid vortex]

That's true though

[frosty bridge]

[balmy condor]

As long as you’re not at like 25+ either way it’s kinda whatever

[frosty bridge]

bro is wear

Kyveza made me realize

THAT THESE DAMN ZOOMERS ONLY KNOW DIGITAL CLOCKS

[serene solar]

Oh snap good to know. I wonder what sub likes more. I play both in keys lol im weird

[timid vortex]

But then again if ur all facing the center it should always be left for clockwise

[balmy condor]

Probably 20 agi as well

[clever sapphire]

my name was legit "digital clock" in details for 2 raidnights

[subtle tundra]

digital cocks

[balmy condor]

The ago on it is just tuned higher

[subtle tundra]

nice

[frosty bridge]

[balmy condor]

Would be surprising if the secondaries win

[serene solar]

Awesome. Thanks man

[subtle tundra]

my guild struggles with clockwise, they are older

[serene solar]

I got my advice on the trink from a hunter. They literally want secondaries more than main so I guess it makes sense haha

[clever sapphire]

well ye but the melees are usually looking at boss, so thats right for them, but the ranges may be standing outside where its left for them

so i told them go clockwise

then i realised people dont know their clocks

and i gave up

[brittle quail]

older is supposed to be an advantage, they used clock back in the days

[clever sapphire]

thats what i also thought

doesnt seem like it tho

[brittle quail]

unfortunatly i know what you mean 😂

[balmy condor]

Earlier in raid I asked if clockwise is the one where my hand makes an L

And no one laughed

I still think about that

[serene solar]

Ouch

I laughed man

When a joke doesn't hit it usually makes me question my existence

[balmy condor]

It’s the worst when you think it’ll hit

And you’re like yeah this is mint

And you’re like smiling as you say it

And then crickets

[serene solar]

Absolutely. Like bro they are gonna DIE on this one

[brittle quail]

ok maybe i ll get thrash but can you explain ? english not my main language i dont get it

[balmy condor]

It’s a common thing to be like

Left is where your hand makes an L

To be like left/right

[brittle quail]

hooo

x)

[balmy condor]

But clockwise isn’t left or right

And that’s why it’s funny

[serene solar]

Yeah people who struggle with "left" and "right" sometimes get help from sticking your pointer finger and thumb up. Your left hand is the one where it makes an L

[runic hinge]

very common for me in my raid

is to make jokes into silence

[brittle quail]

y i'm french so i have a different way of memorizing left/right but i get it now thanks !

[royal lantern]

Links ist wo der Daumen Rechts ist

[balmy condor]

Maybe they just didn’t get it honestly cause someone said the classic “road work? I sure hope it does”

And two pulls later a dude in raid chat goes OH I GET IT

CAUSE THE ROAD IS WORKING

Maybe they’re just slow

Like a 5 min travel time on punchline to brain

And that’s why they didn’t laugh

[grim plover]

is it the same 4 gems we all get? or can u be lucky

[balmy condor]

We all in the same hell together brother

[brittle quail]

i don't even know how thats possible, 5 min later i forgot the joke already

[grim plover]

rough

[balmy condor]

I mean when it’s a real thinker of a joke

And you gotta sit there

https://tenor.com/view/rodin-yoyo-gif-4803278

Hittin one of these

[brittle quail]

😂

[royal lantern]

800world ms

[brittle quail]

well if i'm playing no way i'm doing that

[balmy condor]

Your coworker tells you a joke and you don’t get it but then you take a shower

And you’re like

Oh fuck

Idk

That’s how I imagine they are

Couldn’t be me

What’s it like to not be funny

[serene solar]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-who-ncuti-gatwa-fifteenth-doctor-well-i'm-hilarious-i-think-i'm-funny-gif-16496878593080333893

[manic sphinx]

I just pretend to myself that they're all laughing while muted

[balmy condor]

Yeah I can’t do that

Cause then the voice in my head goes “you fucking clown why are you imagining a situation to make yourself feel better”

[runic hinge]

let me tell you

[royal lantern]

or you take a shower and think about that moment 4years ago and realise

"oh shit, they where flirting with me"

[alpine pier]

Hi, so is the circet ring finally useful or still sim lower than 636 normal ring ?

[runic hinge]

check pins

[alpine pier]

Good thx

[pliant remnant]

We kinda balastin' Rashanan

[steel ridge]

whispyr average... only rank 2

[balmy condor]

I’m cooked

[clever sapphire]

cant trust whispyr anymore, not even rank 1 hc

[balmy condor]

The fuck does that whispyr guy know

[clever sapphire]

well one things for sure, he doesnt know how to play rashanan well

[limber lion]

We've come far from Whispyr saying that he sucks at the video game

Statistically he cannot say that anymore

[balmy condor]

Surely if he knew how the spec worked he would be able to do the additional 235,466.7 dps that he got fucking crushed by

[pliant remnant]

You can trust me

Mariner's Hallowed is our BIS gem

Hidden interaction

Just trust me

[balmy condor]

you just summed up how mythic+ feelcrafting works within the community in 4 lines

[frosty rover]

hey guys i wanted to ask when is the best time to use shiv?

[clever sapphire]

he played the proper hero tree, its just that he followed the guides

[balmy condor]

Kingsbane

[frosty rover]

ye but when exactly

[balmy condor]

Before and when that shiv times out

[frosty rover]

like at the end or the beginning

okay

[clever sapphire]

with one shiv, last 7 seconds

with 2 what mr number 2 said

[frosty rover]

thanks 🙂

[limber lion]

Np

[frosty rover]

i think most people play with one, at least thats what murlok.io says

[limber lion]

In Mythic+ yeah

[frosty rover]

ye exactly

[normal mist]

M+

[limber lion]

Didn't specify did ya

[frosty rover]

yep my bad there 😄

[clever sapphire]

but with that in mind, you can also use 1 shiv inbetween KB if you use it on cooldown

[frosty rover]

that sounds a little bit next level, imma stick to the use on 7 secs left of KB

thank you all though! nice guys

[serene solar]

You did 22m less envenom damage than that guy. Do you even play assa man? /s

[limber lion]

In AoE you don't even have to press it outside of KB's

Unless you play AP

[clever sapphire]

well ye, shiv is only ST dmg so unless you really wanna destroy that one mob its not that big

[balmy condor]

My envenom is very un-venomous

[serene solar]

Top is his stats and bottom is yours. Clearly you don't know our stat weights

[balmy condor]

Unvenom

Wow I have no crit compared to him that’s wild

[limber lion]

No haste as well

[sharp viper]

you're fast as fuck boi

[limber lion]

Because he got 2 PI

[clever sapphire]

but he has no leech or speed

[balmy condor]

Reasonable

[clever sapphire]

so its a W on your part

[sharp viper]

imagine getting PI

[serene solar]

Bro has a good bit of agi on you too

[balmy condor]

I mean yeah the only people getting PI on assa are either paying the priest off or purposely trolling

[clever sapphire]

it surely has nothing to do with the bit longer killtime so more cooldown uptime right

[balmy condor]

My kill time was basically perfect

Can’t blame that

[serene solar]

New meta... grab a bunch of crit, screw haste and get PI

[balmy condor]

It died with like 0.3s before the end of my kingsbane

So like maybe I missed one kb tick

But can’t really ask for better

[serene solar]

Yeah that is really nice

[limber lion]

Yeah doesn't make up the 200k difference or whatever it is

[pliant remnant]

Damn

We pressed over here

But yeh, it's just a pug and I just asked the priest for PI

[balmy condor]

I’m not pressed, I’m washed

[pliant remnant]

'cause fuck it, why not

[balmy condor]

Tumble dry

[sharp viper]

can't even be happy about the ring

[serene solar]

oh that actually is you xD

[pliant remnant]

SKARDYN'S REEEEEE

[serene solar]

Priest Payer!

[limber lion]

Time to promote Peter and demote Whispyr

[pliant remnant]

Never

Paying for PI is cringe

[balmy condor]

🙂‍↕️

[serene solar]

myth grace makes me wanna cry

[serene solar]

Want to talk about washed? My best for heroic rash is 1.714m

[balmy condor]

Bro you’re squeaky clean

Fingers like prunes

[serene solar]

super washed brother

[sharp viper]

4th one vault offered me

[serene solar]

Wow

[sharp viper]

i want other stuff

might be ring

but hey

speaking of ring

ISLAND BOYS are calling

[green pier]

desperate for myth skarydn's... got hero but it's nearly the only slot I can upgrade and I want harbinger of the gilded dammit!

[serene solar]

I just wish my guild gave me the myth transmitter that dropped and not a fury warrior...

I will forever be salty

[balmy condor]

If it makes you feel better I vendored a mythic transmitter today to make space for the healing gem

[harsh violet]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[serene solar]

Made me feel worse. Thanks

[sharp viper]

do you ever consider playing sub or outlaw in raid if its better?

[clever sapphire]

14 kills? daaaamn

my only 2 digit kill is on princess for transmitter

[balmy condor]

This is the first tier in 4 years where I’ve escaped subtlety prison

[serene solar]

Dude Whispyr on outlaw for bosses sounds so cursed. I love it

[serene solar]

Haha I got hero transmitter like week 1 or 2. But yeah lots of raiding here

[clever sapphire]

yeeee about that lots of raiding xD

(this is hc tho)

[serene solar]

Yeah you really putting in work on princess. 😂

You wanted that trink bad

[clever sapphire]

eh i just vibe with sub in keys, but with skardyns it just feels annoying sometimes

well in keys, i do like 1 key a week

[limber lion]

got you beat

[serene solar]

That’s fair. I play all three specs but I’ve neglected outlaw this season. Been playing assa in most of raid. Sub for like the first boss and assa/sub in keys. Yet somehow I hit 3k io on sub before assa so maybe I just suck at assa

[clever sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-worship-worshipping-now-bowing-gif-12297363

[clever sapphire]

i gave up on 3k

[limber lion]

wtb curve pls guys

[serene solar]

12 GB had me close to quitting

[clever sapphire]

dunno i never got issues with gb

like i legit did 12 gb whilst farming my skardyns

[serene solar]

My GB issues are almost always tanks dying

[limber lion]

Nice flex

[clever sapphire]

only thing i can flex with

[midnight mist]

Why this whisper guy telling me to read a guide in every single one of his pins

i will not be reading a guide

[subtle tundra]

YOU CANT READ

[midnight mist]

you wont make me

[subtle tundra]

HAHHAHAHHAHA

[midnight mist]

[pliant remnant]

Guides are for nerds

Feels all the way

[serene solar]

Yeah I’m surprised you could read the pinned.

🙂

[midnight mist]

i mean it was hard

that long ass pin

[clever sapphire]

love me some good old feelcrafting

[subtle tundra]

im hard

[serene solar]

Proud of your brother. You sounded out the words and made it

[midnight mist]

i had to read it in 3 times, one paragraph a day

[clever sapphire]

try not to take this out of context, mission impossible

[limber lion]

Came out yesterday, but read it one paragraph a day for 3 days in a row

Time traveller

[subtle tundra]

he is fr*nch, not smart

[midnight mist]

?

racist gg

@gusty mirage

ban this man

why oxi asleep

its prime american time i heard

[serene solar]

It’s 4am for me. I’m about to pass out

Sorry you got racism’d tho

[rotund oak]

washed ppl dont farm CE's

[subtle tundra]

sorry i have to filter evade

your nationality is not a safe word

🙄

[balmy condor]

It’s true

Fr*nch

There’s only one word worse than Fr*nch

I’m scared to even mention it

[royal lantern]

Outlaw

[amber brook]

Drench

[subtle tundra]

ou*law

[royal lantern]

dont ban pls

[balmy condor]

Stealthi might get me for this one

But it’s d*nish

[subtle tundra]

AAAAAAAAAAA

[rotund oak]

ahahahahhaha

[midnight mist]

why is everyone racist to french tho fr

[clever sapphire]

that do be a good question

french has good baguettes

also arent french people the racist ones usually?

i heard they are unfriendly to anyone who isnt french

[midnight mist]

No i think they are unfriendly to people that try to speak to them in English in France

Not necessarily unfriendly to foreigners

Dont think that's very different from most countries tho

[clever sapphire]

but like, how else am i supposed to speak as a tourist

[midnight mist]

Learn the language

[clever sapphire]

ig austria is different in that, but i catch so many people just straight up speaking english instead of german

[clever sapphire]

i know baguette

is that enough?

[pliant remnant]

Just say "ca va?" and walk away

Good enough

[subtle tundra]

dont they want perfect pronounciation

[rotund oak]

from my 6-7 times visiting france i think they are more into chauvinism not rly racism.From what i was told from the french travel agency its a thing they had vs the brits that lasts till today from like renossance or even more back in time.With the wars between them,bloody stuff

[runic hinge]

Maybe people should just be a little nicer

[subtle tundra]

no fuck you

[clever sapphire]

i can also start speaking german with them if english is the issue

[rotund oak]

yup thats not a thing either

thats why its supposed to be chauvinism

[midnight mist]

ye

if you have bad pronounciation

they wil judge you

then talk to you in english

because what we hate more than people that dont talk french

is people that talk bad french

funny right

[frosty bridge]

LOL

i wrote

je suis un peu en r and it got removed

the bot hates the french confirmed

[midnight mist]

thats how i got my first bot strike

was an honest mistake tho

its late in french

[frosty bridge]

i know

[midnight mist]

and i just forgot to translate cause noob

[frosty bridge]

had french in school sadly

[midnight mist]

i think it also usable in english anywya

thats why i got got

[subtle tundra]

dont evade filter please

[frosty bridge]

so what you are saying is dont speak french

and i can get behind that 100%

[runic hinge]

It is in the server rules to speak English

[gloomy heart]

rip @balmy condor

[balmy condor]

o7

[midnight mist]

noob

why this guy write pin

if not r1

??

[frosty bridge]

whispyr washed

gg

[balmy condor]

people think I hate 11.0.7 cause the content is shit

but it's actually just cause I'm washed

[midnight mist]

real real

[subtle tundra]

you showered? pog!

[frosty bridge]

when did they announce 10.1 last time

i need some hype injected into my veins

everyone hating on the game rn

[faint path]

legacy of the vrykul bugged %100 but nothing happens wtf...

[frosty bridge]

its not

wdym

[gloomy heart]

2.1 is a insane parse

[faint path]

I finished world quest %100 but can't do special assign

staying like that

[frosty bridge]

[midnight mist]

skill issue

[faint path]

😄

[balmy condor]

11.0.7 is a perfect patch with no bugs

[dusky vault]

Relogging worked for me

[faint path]

sadly not working still

[dusky vault]

😦 dam got nothing sorry, was bugged for me until it wasn't; maybe it just needs time too.

[clever sapphire]

have you tried waiting a few weeks until blizzard fixes a few bugs? works for me usually

[pliant remnant]

Legacy of the Vrykul bugged out on my huntard, which I did the Isle first on, but then completed fine on rogue

[dusk hatch]

is the ring worth using now?

[balmy condor]

pins pls

[dusk hatch]

dogshit awful, i see

[arctic granite]

Got a question which ring is better the new circlet ring at Ilvl 642 or the queens ring at 626?

[jade minnow]

first answer sim it
second answer, -37k dps

[arctic granite]

Yeah

[balmy condor]

third answer

[arctic granite]

Thats why I'm asking

[balmy condor]

read two lines up

would be really neat if there as like some way to consolidate info in here

[arctic granite]

I mean some people don't want to read through 200 lines of text to find an answer and just ask to get a quick answer

but no worries

[limber lion]

That's literally what the pins are for?

[arctic granite]

Yeah but what is the discord for otherwise?

[pliant remnant]

They need to make the pins button more prominent

[arctic granite]

Like if we can't ask questions

[balmy condor]

yeh mb should just assume that we're here as a chat bot

[pliant remnant]

Maybe give the option to make it a glowy swirly banner at the top of the client

[royal lantern]

and some people dont want to answer for the 300th time a day the same "what is Bis???????" question

[pliant remnant]

[balmy condor]

gpt can you read me the pins

[royal lantern]

when that has literally a question