assassination

[tulip portal]

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Sorry not sorry

[coral ibex]

lol

[tulip portal]

Also subterfuge goat

Assa players cope

[coral ibex]

uh huh

[tulip portal]

Sorry im in a toxic mood today

[coral ibex]

ok

[tulip portal]

Thanks

[coral ibex]

very strange behavior

[slate crown]

? Yeah lots of people like it

[humble verge]

average assa user

me

[warm vortex]

Well

BM got super butchered

So i guess ill focus on my assa again

:(

[humble verge]

:D

[warm vortex]

Bleak powder feels like most of my aoe damage on pulls fyi :(

Imma do a quick test on dummies

Ignore the dps im low ilevel

But this is how much bleak powder did
and it's getting nerfed by 40% because it's bugged

[coral ibex]

time to craft that spear and swap to surv

[swift fog]

heyo guys, im spamming a bit of assassination these days after some years of Outlaw and as you can expect, im struggling a bit in prolonged fights and packs ( both st and aoe ) with energy management. Ofc it comes cause im not used to the large but slow-to-regen Energy pool.
Does these energy downtimes comes from a bad managing of my Garrote and Rupture in bigger packs or it comes just from my Haste being lower than it should? it is some days im trying to figure it out but i do not know the spec THAT much

[dapper cradle]

Energy feeling ass outside of cooldowns in ST is normal

[royal lantern]

!energy

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[dapper cradle]

Energy in aoe shouldn’t really be an issue if you’re keeping ruptures up on 5+

[warm vortex]

I mean they will realise that they need to compansate BM right
Right?????? (It's not like we have had a bug that is like a 5% or so dps decrease for a while)

[clever sapphire]

bleak powder is the black powder of bm hunter?

[turbid harbor]

Black powder in a South African accent

[royal lantern]

dark ranger passive thingy

[clever sapphire]

sounds fun

[humble verge]

do you have this for the conjured pot?

or where i could find it

lol

[coral ibex]

you can just write /use Fleeting Tempered Potion

that's whats in my macro

[warm vortex]

TLDR
Your kill shot becomes so much bettetr
Becomes stronger
While beast cleave is up it does an explosion (Bleak powder) when it hit things
You auto attacks and black arrow (The kill shot replacement) have a chance to reset the cooldown of BA and make it usable regardless of target health
Every 3 bestial wraths it instead fires a black arrow

[humble verge]

reasonable

[royal lantern]

Use 13?

shit macro

[subtle tundra]

ill use you

sex

[coral ibex]

quiet 14 user

13 users are speaking

[royal lantern]

yes pls

[clever sapphire]

my brain turned off when you started explaining bm hunter, i didnt get past "kill shot"

[humble verge]

should be fine now

[clever sapphire]

manually typing in the trinket name every patch

[royal lantern]

manually typing /use abilityname to play the game

[warm vortex]

Ranged execute

[clever sapphire]

nah its not that i didnt get it

i just got bored

xD

[humble verge]

dat worked ty

used my fleeting instead of my actual pots :d

[coral ibex]

yup as long as that line comes before the regular potion line

[humble verge]

++

[swift fog]

maybe it happens when i miserably fail to manage ruptures outside Indiscriminate Carnage windows, it can be. I'll try to keep an eye on it next keys

[swift fog]

well, this can keep quiet my "you're a donkey" voice that keeps screaming in my head ahahha, thought i was messing something up badly during Single Target encounter

i also thank you for answering tho, i'll keep track of stuff while i play 😄

[coral ibex]

you should be playing for envenom uptime and not spamming energy away needlessly

[swift fog]

ye probably is where my Fury Warrior ADHD kicks in and says "PRESS BUTTONS, PRESS EVERYTHING"

[candid sun]

So if you have garrote not applied and you have no means of applying the improved version, just let it fall off and prioritize evenom and rupture?

[coral ibex]

no

maintaining bleeds is a higher priority

[candid sun]

Kk

I'm asking in re: downtime between burst windows when you're starving in single target mostly

That was probably the most confusing part for me

[raven stump]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[west crown]

You shouldn’t be starved enough that you can’t upkeep bleeds

If you have to drop envenom to get bleeds back up, do so

[swift plover]

noob to sin here do I run instant or deadly or is it different between m+ and Raid?

[west crown]

Deadly

And Amplifying

[swift plover]

word for all content?

[west crown]

Yes

[swift plover]

ty king

[royal lantern]

instant is for the 2 shit specs

[humble verge]

man

when i first joined my guild

i was bottom dps, now im topping D:

[stark nebula]

I'm curious if Regicide/Regicide is BiS instead of Regicide/Blood-Kissed Kukri - is there a theory behind that choice for OH ?

[spice surge]

It doesnt really matter

[stark nebula]

so there isnt some magical swing timer or OH specialness about it>

[spice surge]

No

Its just stats

And stats doesnt really matter much

[stark nebula]

sweet. i got 2x Regi in different raids

[royal lantern]

not a assa player confirmed

[humble verge]

idk

im 99 logging wipes

kek

[raven stump]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[fringe crater]

Can you use evasion on nexus princess to dodge the charge of the phantoms?

[spice surge]

No, but you can precloak it

And you wont get the debuff

[fringe crater]

ye that much I figured

was just curious if it was coded as an attack for evasion purposes

[spice surge]

Its not

[fringe crater]

k

Prob not worth cloaking it though, seems like cloak is invaluable in intermission

[turbid harbor]

It must be worth cloaking it, I did on prog

Not fought princess in a long time but you avoid so much damage from the debuff

[fringe crater]

Fair, and I guess for the sake of progressing the fight further having less people die from orbs is also nice

[cerulean walrus]

Brother just feint the lines lol

Cloak the charge

If you aren’t playing elusiveness on that fight idk what to tell you

[dusk hatch]

when the charges are going through the middle can u just stand behind boss and pre cloak the charge or will that mess something up with the charge that comes from behind into the boss?

[spice surge]

No you still need to move out to the correct spot

Or maybe the last one is technically fine

[static glacier]

sv better than bm anyways

atleast for me

[humble verge]

do you know if like, feint at all reduces Regicide damage+

?

[spice surge]

it does not

Regicide is not coded as an aoe spell

[humble verge]

yeah

thats what i thought

rouge superior

[humble verge]

i guess the only reasonable thing would be to use evasion

with bait and switch hero talent

[spice surge]

Or swap to elusiveness

[humble verge]

could maybe

but i can still cheat the 10% execution

with CD

[balmy condor]

Elusiveness is by far better on kyveza

It’s like not even a competition

[humble verge]

alright

i listen to daddy

btw @balmy condor have you ever experienced KB being parried?

cause princess just did

[balmy condor]

Yeh

[humble verge]

thats just weird to me

[balmy condor]

Don’t be in front of boss

[humble verge]

yeye

tryna not be

[balmy condor]

Happens sometimes

[humble verge]

experienced it like

4-5 times so far this expac

[balmy condor]

Ovi’nax is pretty bad for it

Well you also mostly m+

So makes sense

[humble verge]

i do raid tho

but its happened in

m+ lmao

more than in raid

[balmy condor]

M+ bosses can’t parry though

[cerulean walrus]

Homeboy getting parried by Joe Schmoe

[spice surge]

Except sometimes they can because blizzard does an oupsiee

[balmy condor]

Yeah I guess

Shit game will be shit game

[spice surge]

Ye it is what it is

[humble verge]

maybe im just remembering wrong

[cerulean walrus]

And that’s why you need the banana peel slip parry WA

You’ll never forget when your shit gets parried

[humble verge]

whut

ah lol

keeps a statistic of parrys?

[cerulean walrus]

No it plays a banana peel slip noise when your shit gets parried

[humble verge]

rofl

[cerulean walrus]

You hear the noise? You call for a wipe

[humble verge]

lmfao

i wish i could

[runic hinge]

queen is also terrible

[balmy condor]

Haven’t encountered it yet

[royal lantern]

wait

you killed court?

[spice spire]

Ye

[royal lantern]

gz

[gilded oasis]

bro Queen has parried me like 7 times so far. Shes rude af

[runic hinge]

I swear I’m behind her and she don’t give a fuck

That ass will parry anything

[spice spire]

Never been parried in my life

[mild rock]

So I just ran a 8 GB, do these stats look correct? Pulled 1.93m overall. 633 ilvl. Should caustic be more?

[humble verge]

probably not, since stuff died faster in lower keys

and since youre running SD + SB its dying faster

[royal lantern]

CT should be higher tbh

outside of that, looks normal

[humble verge]

yea prolly CT

[keen laurel]

I'm curious, what alts are people enjoying?
Mained rogue for like 6 years now but I'm finding every spec pretty bland because of the hero talents, but at this point I feel stockholme syndromed into the class - so want to know what other rogue lovers find fun!

[neat smelt]

tried to have an alt this tier, went with WW, im enjoying it so far

[keen laurel]

WW is one I was considering! It helps that I find MW fun too. I've tried an Enh shaman and found that fun enough, but dont think i could stick to it

[eager haven]

In M+ pugs should I not use Crippling Poison?

[broken moth]

the new ring is good for assa ?

or for other spec ?

[cerulean walrus]

[broken moth]

TYYY

[ornate dawn]

do we have the link to the ring sims

[cerulean walrus]

That abomination of a ring is getting tuned like every day there’s no point atm

Just check the pin Whispyr will update it whenever it matters

[urban iron]

how much haste we aim on ST build?

[novel star]

we don’t aim for anything

all stats are good

[lean plover]

As much as sims tell you

[novel star]

yea

just sim items and equip them idk

[urban iron]

ye my stat wight are all baslance exactly...

[novel star]

don’t do stat weights

sim items

stat weight sims are trash

just use top gear

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[novel star]

and cause i assume it’s an energy question due to mentioning haste specifically here’s this command too

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[green pier]

i'm really interested in this; i did a 11 DB with a rogue who I ended up chatting with because his CS was so high and tempest so low I wondered if i was doing something wrong

so this was his split

I just did SV +12 and got this (spatter is normally around 10% but yeah):

i was 1.8m overall, he was 1.64 (dawn isn't as much cleave)

is one of us wrong? 😛

i am basically doing the opener (spreading as many ruptures and garrotes as poss with carnage), getting mutilate on a big hp target for spatter, envenom for buff uptime and then just ripping FoK > CT > FoK > CT until bleeds are threatening to drop

[strange python]

Uh

CT does no initial damage

Theres no reason to use it as long as its applied

So you should just keep it up that’s all there is to it

[green pier]

so... less CT and more envenom?

[fresh kelp]

throw a CT into your opener and do FoK -> envenom instead

[strange python]

Yes envenom on your big target is your main spender

CT is just a bleed you keep up

Altho this guy prob didn’t ct enough, so there is that

[green pier]

i was under the impression it ramped

OK

TIL, will adjust, ty!

[soft surge]

do you refresh ct during pandemic window or not bother

[strange python]

Like almost any bleed in the game you would want to refresh in pandemic yes

That is if the pack is alive for long enough

Theres times where spatter envenom does more damage at the end of a pull because there’s not much of a pull left

But if mobs are still relatively healthy always refresh ct

Ct big dam

[mild rock]

So if will spamming envemoms to caustic target cause caustic to do more dmg??

[novel star]

yeah

envenom/kingsbane both spatter

deathstalker mark getting popped also spatters

when it says poisons it means nature damage from rogue spells basically lol

not actually ur autos

well them too but they’re small and don’t matter much

[mild rock]

So if pumping out more envenoms buffs caustic in a pack, does it matter how much cp u are envenoming?

[novel star]

it’s not for buffing caustic

the envenom itself

[mild rock]

Like cause of the rng for cp with fok

[novel star]

does aoe damage

you hit a 5cp envenom and the instant damage of that envenom

is aoe damage thru caustic

[mild rock]

Ah I see

[novel star]

so u just follow normal 5+ rule

[strange python]

Caustic is just

Damage you do to caustic target does damage to targets around it

In simple terms

[waxen oyster]

unless you forgot to mut

your bled up target

then the debuff wouldnt apply

[strange python]

Well ye then you don’t have a caustic target so

[waxen oyster]

I’ve seen it alot

[mild rock]

What new rings are people talking about

[hollow river]

Onyx anulet 2.0 coming with the new patch on this next reset

[mild rock]

It’s a craft?

[hollow river]

It comes from the new zone afaik

[brittle tartan]

isnt it awful for sin?

oh update in pins. ignore me

[dawn heath]

i swear to god

the hardest thing for me in keys is targeting the right mob sometimes

[brittle tartan]

this

[dawn heath]

I had the worst choke of my life

today in a key

[brittle tartan]

what happen fren

[dawn heath]

https://medal.tv/games/world-of-warcraft/clips/jibrrmOa6ZrdZuSzK?invite=cr-MSxEbzcsMTcyMzI0NTA1LA

look at me desperately trying to target the second golem

[brittle tartan]

OH SHIT WE GOT FOOTAGE

[dawn heath]

but unsucessful

[brittle tartan]

plater said nah you dont get to click this golem

[dawn heath]

holy fuckign shit

watching this back gives me anxiety

missing like 4globals

cause i cant targe the mob

[brittle tartan]

i do that a lot

how'd the key go in the end?

[tired girder]

does outlaw sim higher for anyone else or is it just me?

[runic hinge]

outlaw is a sim spec

give a spec wtih cdr 100% uptime and it shines

but also sims aren't usually to compare specs

[dawn heath]

i've tried to cook a target macro

but the problem is

there are 2 mobs with the same name

so it doesnt work

on some pulls

i have this

[slate crown]

you can do /tar to save some characters fyi

instead of /target

[dawn heath]

cool thanks ill do that

[slate crown]

but yeah that's how some macros had to be, I recall in shadowlands making a macro on DH to kill the necrolord demon spawn, it spawned a demon with a random chance of being 1 of 5 names

so you had like 5 lines of /tar like you have for each of the names

[dawn heath]

is it solveable through target to get a speciifc one?

if there are 2 of the same one somehow

[slate crown]

no, how could you resolve the ambiguity?

if there are 2, each of them has a unique ID but A) how could you tell which id is which, B) how could you impart that knowledge into a macro, and C) you can't target via ID anyways

[dawn heath]

yeah figured but i thought maybe if u tapped the macro twice it would cycle through the targets? but i dont think it does

it just targets the closest one

afaik

[keen spruce]

trying to target that second golem

and focus the 2nd voidsoul

during the gather

actually makes my blood boil

[runic hinge]

hot blooded

[cursive frost]

on mythic queen, are you using vanish for first webs or cloak?

[balmy condor]

vanish lines up for first webs in opener

fully automatically

[cursive frost]

it felt that way, just wanted to make sure i wasnt missing some kind of cd line up for later

[wicked zodiac]

Guys when i use shiv with Supercharger + Forced Induction with 3 combo points is a equal 7 combo points on envenon?

or 6 ?

[spice surge]

If you use it with 3, it will count as 3+3, aka 6

If you use it at 6 it will count as 6+3, aka 9

[wicked zodiac]

@spice surge another question please , [Forced Induction] and [Supercharger] is woring 100%?

[spice surge]

What

[wicked zodiac]

not bugged

[spice surge]

Its not bugged no

[wicked zodiac]

ok ty

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

@spice surge I have question how do I become cute like you

[coral ibex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1292477218462634115/vlc_2024-10-06_08-22-07.gif

[spice spire]

Buddy look in a mirror

I’d slurp those dogs cleaner than any soap could make them

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1292477218462634115/vlc_2024-10-06_08-22-07.gif

[balmy condor]

I'm tryna get a 22 inch waist like eleem with the dumpy behind it ya know

mewtwo build

[spice spire]

Yo eleem actual mewtwo irl?

About to divert my travels to Europe fr

[bronze pike]

a latina gf with mewtwo bod

[balmy condor]

have one of those, next

[bronze pike]

https://tenor.com/view/mewtwo-fire-mewtwo-strikes-back-pokemon-gif-24904395

[spice surge]

That aint me bud

Youve been catfished

[balmy condor]

dam

[blazing jewel]

@balmy condor can I get context on this

[balmy condor]

on what

[blazing jewel]

What is this about eleems dumpy

Is there a lot of turbulence going on there

[balmy condor]

that is the context

[blazing jewel]

🗿

[cerulean walrus]

It’s stormin out

[bright tartan]

that's goldshire rp

[bronze pike]

this is nothing like that

[wheat tiger]

Soo read the PIN on this new ring.

Sounds like it wont replace a max mythic ring for a few weeks ?

kinda lame

[balmy condor]

as of now it won't replace a max mythic ring until blizzard decides to buff it

which they will

because this is the same shit they did in 10.0.7

[elfin flame]

hello idk if this is alrdy known information but if a mob with rupture is made friendly or becomes untargetable it seems corrupt the blood will trigger on whatever target you have selected. here is an example https://www.twitch.tv/shindigwow/clip/TameArtsyGoshawkStoneLightning-ZlpN1J2fTVO29kZL

[balmy condor]

yes

commonly happens in grim batol third boss

is known

[elfin flame]

ahh k i knew of corrupt the blood triggering stuff but i didnt know how it triggered

W shit

love bugs

[balmy condor]

Insanely niche to be fair

but yeh kinda jank

[elfin flame]

ya true

[balmy condor]

probably worth having a chat command maybe

one sec

[soft surge]

this pisses me off

causes me to always mess around with my plater

[balmy condor]

!update

[prisma monolith]

Updated.

[balmy condor]

!corrupt

[prisma monolith]

Corrupt the Blood/Rupture Bug
Corrupt the blood can jump to mobs that are out of combat when the rupture-afflicted target changes from harmful to non-harmful
This is repeatable with mind control, but is most common on the third boss of Grim Batol when skipping the two elites before the boss.

You can avoid it by being EXTREMELY careful to not target anything when your target shifts, but otherwise not much to be done. Just be careful and aware as it is a niche bug that should not happen frequently

[balmy condor]

good enough

[blazing pumice]

i'm dumb and haven't seen the bug, how does it trigger on the third boss on gb

if people select those targets after the first phase?

[balmy condor]

yeh

rupture the dude, dude runs off

auto-target/tab to a lavabender

gg

[spice spire]

!corruptdn

Damn

[slate crown]

!quake

damn

[spice spire]

I’m done big dog

Cooked

Washed

Rinsed

[slate crown]

it's so over

[spice spire]

Joever even

[rotund oak]

irrelevant but today im getting the corgi pup

gonna drive in about an hour to take it

[spice spire]

Send pics king

Can’t wait to see them

[rotund oak]

gonna try from my brother's cellphone,mine is blocked(mobile banking blocked everything)

[subtle tundra]

bank can block yo phone?

forking stupid

[rotund oak]

the app takes mail information

and if the mobile banking is pretty active and real money is above

lets say normal

they kinda block activities from that specific cellphone/equipment in fear of hacking etc

its the app that does it

[sullen hollow]

Are there any sims done with the changes to racials

Im blind i just saw what was posted in research

[crystal glen]

The TLDR was doesnt matter if im not wrong 😛

[sullen hollow]

It doesnt

It litterally looks almost the same as before

[blazing pumice]

nelf is still the master race

[subtle tundra]

are you ok?

nelf?

[clever sapphire]

ye, its obviously undead

[weary spear]

at 6 CP's and darkest night up in ST we still mutilate instead of FoK, yeah?

[clever sapphire]

aye

[weary spear]

and only garrote if its pandemic?

[clever sapphire]

fingers were 1 to the right

[clever sapphire]

aye

well unless you are pressing vanish during your dm+kb

you would just garrote there for the imp garrote value for those last x seconds

[weary spear]

copy

[royal lantern]

darkflight+sprint will be ZOOMING

dont need sims for that

[prisma scaffold]

Hi guys for talent builds in mplus, is both the dbl vanish and the super charger build good? I have seem people run different variations so is it more of a run what you prefer thing?

[novel star]

yeah it’s all preference

[clever sapphire]

i like subterfuge because 12 seconds of master assa and iron wire is just a vibe

[novel star]

we have hundreds of different combinations of m+ talents that are all playable

pick what makes you feel good

[clever sapphire]

i also cant forget about ambush in case it vanishes

ER i just cant feel so i dont care at all about that

[prisma scaffold]

Oh got it. Just one more question, in mythic ulgrax do you normally just runaway from the pull or we can just cloak and survive the pull with the longer duration talent?

[novel star]

i just run away

never even tested to see if cloak works or not cause that boss is so fake

you can stay really close with the sprint speed anyway

so you don’t lose that much

idk

[clever sapphire]

cloak doesnt work (or maybe i cloaked wrong dunno)

[rotund oak]

just be a mage and AT/blink

[weary spear]

Can you guys look at a couple logs and tell me why they’re so different? I don’t get why sometimes I feel like I hit like a wet napkin compared to others

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/936YzADRTwZMk1WG?fight=15&type=damage-done

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/9xLG2q6jDrZwypNJ?fight=15&type=damage-done

Idk what the differences are

[royal lantern]

@spice spire :3

[balmy condor]

More crits more blindside procs

Better weapon procs

[clever sapphire]

i made da screenshots, whispyr said da words

[balmy condor]

Ya

Literally just proc harder

What’s the problem

[subtle tundra]

specs have 10 rng layers

sometimes win sometimes lose

[balmy condor]

[bronze pike]

people want to add more rng/procs to my spec

for "fun"

[balmy condor]

Yes wow is obviously very skill based game that needs more rng

[bronze pike]

love love loveeee it

damaged based on whether or not i proced things on 8 spenders instead of 12 or if dp proced more

skill

every spec

i hope you proc more

havoc afi, sin weapon procs,

[balmy condor]

That’s why top logs in m+ and raid are flawless gameplay examples from prime players that have insane knowledge depth on their spec and conscious understanding of their actions at all times

Clearly

Of course

[bronze pike]

shirly

[balmy condor]

Could not imagine it any other way

[royal lantern]

ofc you cant

cant see you in top logs, so you are not a top player with flawless gameplay

[balmy condor]

Wow ouch

That one hurt

[bronze pike]

real

i have top logs in baiting outlaw tho

beat that

[subtle tundra]

i beat it yes

[bronze pike]

Impossible

[novel star]

U have the 100 rashanan forever goat

don’t mind it being mickey mouse partition

[steel ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/pizza-big-bang-theory-shocked-gif-7228552

[subtle tundra]

whispyr got that 100 on pure merit

[balmy condor]

True!

[oak tangle]

i had a 100 in LFR can i be a good player too?

[subtle tundra]

no

sorry but i spoke and when i do there is only truth

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-burrito-burrito-gif-27664931

[oak tangle]

😦 this hurts, mostly because I am 3 acts deep into chayula monk in poe, and i found out that leech doesn't work, for anyone non poe brained, that's kinda like me trying to do holy damage as a rogue

[subtle tundra]

holy shit

WHO

who is playing poe, that can help you

i wish i had poe2...

[oak tangle]

i would say you should get it, cause it is fun

BUT

it is so clearly still in EA

im 141 hours in

[clever sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/ea-eeee-gif-23557277

[subtle tundra]

yes which is why i dont buy it

[clever sapphire]

sorry i had to

[subtle tundra]

theres quite a lot of missing content

besides all of the questionable designs

[west crown]

It’s good for the first playthrough. But I find myself struggling to want to redo everything on a new char

[oak tangle]

i've rerolled 2 characters and i just regret that i wanted to try different things

[novel star]

campaign too long and game too unfinished sadly

balance is insanely off

most things straight up are not playable

and then there’s like 3 builds that break the game

[oak tangle]

i don't think campaign is too long, but i somewhat agree on unfinished, as for balance, yeah not the best

[royal lantern]

just like poe!

[novel star]

not really

poe1 has a lot more diversity than 2 atm

could just be a knowledge issue though, new game and shit

[royal lantern]

i mean, it all looks allot like poe launch rn

[oak tangle]

i don't think that is a fair criticism though, one is an early access, one has been out for 10 years

[royal lantern]

back in the days launch

[novel star]

okay but nobody remembers poe launch that was 500 years ago

[royal lantern]

you know, farming frost res gear for the act1 Endboss

cus "lol you 1hit kill everything by default" was not a thing

[oak tangle]

i like that they are using early access as a term for an early access, not the diablo crap where early access is just a marketing scheme to grab your money 3 days early

[novel star]

yea

i mean game has alresdy gotten a lot of huge good changes

so i’m not like dooming about it or anything i think it’s very fun

it’s just not cooked yet

the passive tree seems pretty incomplete

[royal lantern]

poe players going 3min without saying diablo Challenge (impossible)

[novel star]

and a lot of builds that should exist because the skills are in the game, don’t exist because they don’t have an ascendancy to scale with lol

[oak tangle]

i think it's mostly fine, it's more that we are missing 6 classes which will bring with them weapons (daggers, swords etc) that will enable more diversity

[novel star]

ED contagion is there technically but it’s like not viable to play

[vagrant hinge]

Can anyone explain me why transmitor is way behind than skardyn for me ? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1nBbdT2nKSAvQd8Xt6UNs9

[novel star]

poisons aren’t viable to play

only gas / flame wall stuff

etc

[oak tangle]

not true, my friend is playing a ranger poison and is in t12's

[novel star]

maybe there’s just some shit i haven’t seen then idk

caught

[royal lantern]

like mate

you have to pay for EA acess in a F2P game

tf you mean

[novel star]

that’s based lol

[royal lantern]

they cash on good will aswell

[oak tangle]

that's on the user for thinking EA means finished game

[royal lantern]

everyone does

[novel star]

the game is not ready

[oak tangle]

which is cause of the bs other companies do

[novel star]

you pay to test for them

that’s just like smart

and good

and cool

why wouldn’t u do that

if it works lol

[oak tangle]

they aren't out here telling you that the game is finished and you can pay to paly it 6 months early, they spent the whole lead up telling everyone how it was

also, i didnt pay for EA

$30 for EA is a barrier that keeps some away, which would otherwise have cooked their servers more on launch for a not ready game

maybe im a shill, but i can see that $30 as a much less of a cash grab and far more of a limitting factor to avoid f2p poe players logging into trying it, hating it, and then causing marketting issues in future

[safe shale]

No really been following the ring shit, as im literally not playing the game, but, im i have 639 unbriss, and 619 queenie, this new rings gonna feel kinda rough to replace one XD, and likely wont replace the queen ring i reckon, i dunno, seems annoying to have another dogwater item that blizz will buff and buff till everyone is forced to take it and wait 6 weeks

XD

[royal lantern]

i honestly dont understand the complaints

its bad that they make new content that has minor Upgrades?

[distant helm]

People will always complain

I personally also like having to log on for something else then raid for a few days

[safe shale]

I mean, its a bit late for mid patch no? XD

Yeha thats fair, but im the opposite, at this point, i just want to raid log

[royal lantern]

if its so late that its "not worth it anymore", then why care

[safe shale]

Am asking

Am allowed to ask

[royal lantern]

and reminder that we barely have 500guilds with CE btw

[safe shale]

Yeah becuase no ones playing

50% guilds got to ovinax and said, nah fk this and quit the game

[royal lantern]

bold take

and very wrong lol

[safe shale]

Not really

[royal lantern]

this tier is just tuned VERY high

we had 1,2k guilds stuck on Court 2weeks ago

[safe shale]

You try getting high m+ groups going at this point in the cycle, no ones playing

[royal lantern]

its not "everyone stopped after ovi" lol

[safe shale]

Never said everyone stopped after ovi

So, weird response

[sharp viper]

can't be stuck on court if you didn't even get there yet

[royal lantern]

❓

[safe shale]

Thats not the same as "everyone quit"

[royal lantern]

now im confused

[safe shale]

50% of people i said

Yeah no shit your confused, you canna read min XD

[royal lantern]

did the mage stop blinking

or had people to die first

[safe shale]

There are numbers for this, the amount of players that killed the first boss, 5th, and 6th, diepicts, many of guilds, left the raiding at/after ovi

[plush wasp]

Im confused how to Play with the 2 supercharger Charges. Ignore it or what? Srry im confused.

[safe shale]

Lot of people just gave up

[royal lantern]

alleight, and the number of guilds that aim for CE looks the same as always?

aka roughly 1,8k?

sometimes bit more,sometimes bit less

[clever sapphire]

do you mean transmitter ahead of skardyn?

im confused by the question

[royal lantern]

you just play like always

you ignore that supercharger exists

its a 100% passive talent with no thinking involved

[clever sapphire]

i dont ignore it because i can finish on 5 to get the DS shit where i would have to build to 7 🤓

[royal lantern]

you use shiv->next finishers are stronger

[safe shale]

roughlu 1.8? you just make that up? abberrus, had 3000, vault had 2000,

So, not the same as always

[royal lantern]

that actually fucked me a bit on queen prog

DN up, shield almost broken and i wanna do a 5cp envenom->charger makes it 7co and applies mark again->she goes immune cus p2 starts

[royal lantern]

2k is "roughly 1,8k" lol

and abberus is a anomaly, you know that

1 of the easiest mythic raidtiers we ever had

[clever sapphire]

yeee that do be annoying, happened to me on first boss once

[drifting cloud]

it also didnt have 3k

[vagrant hinge]

Yeah

[safe shale]

700 guilds the tier before

[vagrant hinge]

sorry haha

[clever sapphire]

well transmitter is generally a bit better, but you cant macro it, its a pain in the ass to get and a pain in the ass to play

[vagrant hinge]

Just loot skardyn and was playing with transmitor so i know this so well haha

[clever sapphire]

i would never play transmitter on assa

imo not worth the effort

[vagrant hinge]

Yup

[clever sapphire]

you will lose out that 0.7% gain just by making mistakes when trying to use the trinket

[vagrant hinge]

i love to see my orb falling in hole in gb

but yeah this trinket is good in number but so bad to use

[clever sapphire]

afaik transmitter always spawns at the same location so you can kinda controll where it spawns?

i wouldnt know since i dont have it

[vagrant hinge]

i dont know maybe yeah

[clever sapphire]

also skardyns gonna be better in aoe because it gives 3k mainstat instead of a bit of haste

transmitters only use is during the usage

[vagrant hinge]

will keep it to play sub if i have to

Thanks for those information 🙂

[mint valve]

waht does this mean?

[clever sapphire]

!corrupt

[prisma monolith]

Corrupt the Blood/Rupture Bug
Corrupt the blood can jump to mobs that are out of combat when the rupture-afflicted target changes from harmful to non-harmful
This is repeatable with mind control, but is most common on the third boss of Grim Batol when skipping the two elites before the boss.

You can avoid it by being EXTREMELY careful to not target anything when your target shifts, but otherwise not much to be done. Just be careful and aware as it is a niche bug that should not happen frequently

[plush wasp]

Ok thank you. I will do as you tell me. Good day to you!

[shrewd perch]

Do we know of we are using the Ring ?

[clever sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/knighthood-memes-gandalf-lo-tr-fly-fools-gif-19006925

[vagrant hinge]

@clever sapphire is is same than skardyn/transmitor for ovinax one ?

i mean simc tell me to always have 10/20 stacks, is this mandatory to be optimal ?

[clever sapphire]

afaik 10/20 should be during your cooldowns

which is easily done because its also a 2 min CD to freeze the stacks

and outside of cooldowns its good to keep it at 10/20, but even like letting it get to 30 is only a 0.4% worse or some shit like that

[vagrant hinge]

Ok so its good to use even if i dont track my stack ?

[clever sapphire]

i assume so ye, would still track it so i atleast have it lined up with cooldowns

the trinket is also off gcd with other trinkets

[vagrant hinge]

yup

[clever sapphire]

so you can press ovinax egg and skardyns at the same time

[solar wyvern]

Hmph tell that to ZskaRNG

[vagrant hinge]

i ask cause i didnt see lot of ppl playing with

Like 7.8% popularity on archon

[clever sapphire]

cause its annoying to play with

because the minmax brain gets to you, and you wanna always hold it at 10/20 (happened to me)

and it was hella annoying to do that during princess prog

[royal lantern]

annoying to Play

the amount of people that killed ovi mythic multiple times is not THAT high

[solar wyvern]

Talking about ehh

Egg

Not the boss

[vagrant hinge]

Yeah ok so better to play a no brain trinket

gotcha

[royal lantern]

cus when you reach court, prog is getting saved until CE

[vagrant hinge]

Yeah i know i'm on court atm

[royal lantern]

need a hug?

[vagrant hinge]

Its ok haha

[solar wyvern]

I wouldn't play egg on court personally

[vagrant hinge]

Too much movement yeah

[solar wyvern]

Just minimize random movement as much as u can

[vagrant hinge]

Yeah will probably swith to another trinket

i have dead eye

[solar wyvern]

Im a fan of crystal if u have it

Dead eye is pgood too

[vagrant hinge]

No unfortunatly 😢

[spice spire]

Dog it was 3 am

[royal lantern]

: 3

[subtle karma]

Happens to me too
But for some reason, rupture could consume deathmarks and I could get DN back up even if she was immune, but doesn't work with envenom

[dusk hatch]

when would u play Sudden over MA in keys?

[amber brook]

TIL CT consumes DS mark

[royal lantern]

well, all dmg finishers do

lost your mark target in aoe? just Press CT 3x and you have DN

[subtle tundra]

GRRRRRRRRR

WOOF WOOF

WOOF

[oblique wasp]

guys I know its stupid but I just wanted to share that I managed today the Mage Tower challenge! and I got the beautifulest set EVER!

[subtle tundra]

awzume!

graaaaaatts!

[oblique wasp]

thank youu ❤️

[subtle tundra]

its a cool fight

[oblique wasp]

I had trouble after the second blind mechanic because it gets hectic and I wasn't diligent enough for multiple pulls, leading to my death. I was swearing here like crazy, my wife threatened to turn electricity off 😄

[midnight mist]

[royal lantern]

you are learning the REAL strats now

[normal mist]

Wouldn't be the first time

[rotund oak]

[solar wyvern]

Kingsbaned the target you dont have marked? Just panic swap between then with caustic and envenoms and lose all your damage!

[midnight mist]

i have knigsbane as a mouseover

so i can kb off targets

very efficient

[humble verge]

i dont even have kingsbane talented, 1 less useless gcd i could use my envenom to proc poison bomb with

[royal lantern]

REAL AND BASED

[solar wyvern]

Correct me if I'm wrong, or you're just memeing. But doesn't kb damage ramp when the target is applied poisons? So if you're kbing an off target all your white swings aren't proccing poisons on your kb target? Isn't this kinda monkaS?

[rugged umbra]

memeing

[spice spire]

Zac isn’t even being serious

[solar wyvern]

Okioki, sometimes he says it so sincerely

And yknow outlaw players...

[golden loom]

I mean for outlaw the bladeflurry hits would hit the kingsbaned target and apply poisons so it works well during shadowdance

[solar wyvern]

Hmmm

Its super potent during Bandit's Guile too!

[spice spire]

Nah Zac is special

[midnight mist]

?

ty

[spice spire]

Np

[manic sphinx]

For boss fights and stuff, is it okay to spend cp on rupture on little adds (e.g. gb last boss), to get refund on energy? or do i do use the cp on boss and just stay energy starved

even like flame elemental things on boss 3 in GB

[spice surge]

Doing it right before an add dies just to "snipe" energy is not worth it

As youre pretty much spending all of that energy to get back to the 5+ combo points you had already

[manic sphinx]

i see. it feels nice tho, to get the energy - but yea, must be terribly inefficient

[solar wyvern]

The small adds on gb shouldn't die before the void pulse

Should get decent scent+rupture value out of ot

[spice surge]

They need to live a little bit so you get some scent of blood value out of it for it to be worthwhile

[solar wyvern]

^

[spice surge]

But ye gb last boss they should live long enough for it to be worth it

[manic sphinx]

Oh, interesting. Does that mean spread rupture individually? I still haven't really mastered spreading rupture manually

Completely new rogue, like 3 weeks in

[spice surge]

Yes, and/or time your vanish for it with your deathmark

[manic sphinx]

Loving it tho - its now my 'main' 😅

[solar wyvern]

On gb i spread 2 ruptures and keep on boss, any more you're losing boss damage

[manic sphinx]

Thx, helpful!

I think now that I'm kinda stuck getting into 11s, I might try pugging some raids, haven't done any yet - just to try ST and whatnot

[solar wyvern]

St plays similar to the m+ st rotation, you're just pushing buttons more

Since blindside procs give so much free energy

[wise whale]

And no SB

[solar wyvern]

Well you don't play around SB on bosses anyway, but yeah

[manic sphinx]

Oh interesting - yea, haven't looked into the talents and the playstyle yet. Only diff I was thinking was the double shiv during KB

[solar wyvern]

Yeah its not very playstyle different, you just feel very powerful in execute

Like almost impossible to run out of energy in execute

[wise whale]

The serotonin received from blindside procs

Pretty pog

[manic sphinx]

hehe, interesting

[solar wyvern]

On my latest kyveza kill

[manic sphinx]

Okay, might try out soem normals so i can learn fights, then go ahead and pug heroics

[solar wyvern]

I didnt need to use tea at all

Except for during shivs

Cause i was just getting blindsides

Like crazy

[wise whale]

That's actually nuts

[solar wyvern]

I was starting to think I should have ran SB haha

[wise whale]

Lmao

Imagine

But what would you give up tho

MA?

[solar wyvern]

Yeah exactly, dashing scoundrel or MA

But then i probably wouldnt have infinity energy without dashing so idk

[wise whale]

Feels so good getting them on pull too

[solar wyvern]

It was just crazy rng

[nova python]

question, if going from pack to pack is it more important to first hit CT after ruptures/garrote or envenom ?

[wise whale]

I like to CT first but I don't go too many globals without applying dsm

Also don't waste the global on ambush if you don't have to (i.e have DN up)

[sullen portal]

always rupture first cause of CS and energy

[wise whale]

that's not what they're asking but yeah rupture first ofc

[sullen portal]

ah sry. after rupture garrote

didnt read it correctly

[manic sphinx]

oh hmm, im starting to get out of the habit of always ambush first

but didn't realise should rupture instead of garrote

[solar wyvern]

Garrote is kindof fake

In a pull you wanna basically go garrote(ambush if no DN), garrote, rupture, rupture, then either garrote or fok spam, CT, go into envenoms and cds

[manic sphinx]

right

[solar wyvern]

Depends on pull size, i usually just do 2 garrotes unless its like a big pull

[manic sphinx]

yea, that's what im trying, garrote garrote, rupture, rupture, garrote (if more than 5 mobs), then fok, CT

[solar wyvern]

Pmuch, then u just go into cds and fok envenom

[manic sphinx]

kk 👍 thx

i try to also caustic after CT, but sometimes i forget 😒

[solar wyvern]

Oh yeah caustic is mega important

Its like a significant portion of your overall

[manic sphinx]

Just did an 11. But I think my profile is wrong. CT should be top, i figured?

i think im not CTíng enough

[solar wyvern]

No here one sec

Ill give an example

This was a quick 13 arakara

[manic sphinx]

oh man

[solar wyvern]

This was a DB 14

[manic sphinx]

that proves my missing caustic, lol

[royal lantern]

i was about to say

[solar wyvern]

Yeha my arakara is kinda scuffed because my tank kept chaining at 5% so im losing rupture spread

but top 3 should always be caustic, env, CT

in that order preferably

[manic sphinx]

kk ty, u legend

i think i need to practice on dummies

could it also mean if my garrote and rupture are so high, that things are dying too quick? cos i find i still struggle to do everything before i can CT and then cooldown properly

[solar wyvern]

Yeah you said youre doing 11s right?

[manic sphinx]

ya

[solar wyvern]

Sin kinda needs things to live

to really get going

So if things die fast, your rupture and garrote will be higher

[manic sphinx]

hard to get into 11s even, only done a couple 😅 ...rest are 10s

[solar wyvern]

but caustic should still be number 1

[manic sphinx]

righto, thx!

Should i also be kidneyíng things? I kinda do it to helpout - but usually doing it with lots of CP. That would be a big dmg loss right?

or should i let the aoe stun ppl do their aoe stun, and bring in my blind in rotation

and obviously kick on cd

[solar wyvern]

you can snap kidney/cheapshot if u see something major going off

but usually thats coverd by other cc

but in 10s/11s people are kinda

all over the place

and aoe blind is a good thing to fit in as well

[manic sphinx]

hmm true - mroe cc the better at these levels

rather dps loss than a wipe and fail the key 😅

Also, in opener, when i've done my start and going into deathmark

should i vanish and reapply garrote?

i know it says always used improved garrote with deathmark

but does that include the opener?

cos by the time i get to cooldown phase, garrote feels like it's almost ending?

hmm, maybe it shouldn't - if each gcd is 1 sec. i see garrote actually alsts 18sec that should probably cover at least half of deathmark

[royal lantern]

if you need a stun

you stun

thats it

[manic sphinx]

lol, fair enough

[winged sun]

@spice spire fast fast

any assa experts here

do i need % amount of haste for raid?

quick

[spice spire]

No

Stop

[winged sun]

im at 3%

[spice spire]

Just sim ur shit man

That’s fine

[winged sun]

nah its just optional

ok

[spice spire]

If you need more haste robot will tell you

Good luck

[winged sun]

ttytyty

[manic sphinx]

@solar wyvern @solar wyvern !

Failed 11 NW - cos the ret left. But looks like improvement. Thx for the help!

1.59m dps, without an aug - my dps about 20% higher, i think, lol

then again, its NW, so i think we were pulling bigger

but yea, thx

[earnest remnant]

13,37%

[midnight mist]

Still asking haste questions in 2024 cuh?

It's 2025 in a few days

Time to learn raidbot

[pulsar wagon]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[pulsar wagon]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[marble wagon]

In ST do we never use tea outside of dm/kb windows?

like do we use it on our shiv that isn't in kb/dm window

[torn mist]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[spice spire]

You’re talking about keys aren’t you

[marble wagon]

yeah in like stonevault first boss for example

cause shiv is every 30s and kb is every 1 min, so do we use tea during the one that isnt in kb window?

[spice spire]

Yeah

You’ll end up using all your tea charges anyway

[marble wagon]

Alright thanks, last thing :3. Why do top logs spam ambush so much, don't you only use it once to apply mark and the mutilate for caustic

[spice spire]

They have ambush as their stealth mutilate spot. And since they’re likely running subterfuge

They’re just mutilating instead of ambushing

[crimson zephyr]

Stonevault, 2nd boss the void guy with the orbs and the shiel. sakamara or whatever: When exactly do you collect the orbs?

[winged sun]

guys

what abilities does feint work on queen?

grip?

[rotund idol]

The puddle shit on the floor

Don’t think grip

[steady nest]

Hi there. Can someone walk me through cooldown usage on mythic silken court? I see in logs that rogues use Deathmark on Anub'arash at 0:30, he returns back 0:44 with Entangled debuff, so we get only 2 seconds of buffed Deathmark on him. Why is that? Is that worth it?

[winged sun]

gonna just play elusiveness

i think

assa is way too squishy

for this fight

[rotund idol]

Is it worth spending energy on feint tho as assa

Ah ok

[golden loom]

If its worth living

[winged sun]

i mean im not trying to parse

just want to live

[keen spruce]

then play outlaw

[crimson zephyr]

what?

[carmine orbit]

Got brood's trinket, what's the ideal use when it comes to stacks for the on use? Something like 10 stacks main stats or doesn't really matter?

[spice spire]

Keep it around 20 stacks

[carmine orbit]

Main stats yeah?

[earnest remnant]

P1 intermission yoink

and the web explosions in p3

[crimson zephyr]

in m+ if you have a big group of 10 mobs: You open and basically make sure to have 5 rupture going and then jsut aoe aoe aoe right?

[subtle tundra]

lol!

play cheat death

[ashen dust]

Is this week 1 or when the ring is maxed?

[subtle tundra]

if you die to unavoidable dmg on queen rn, just fucking whisper every healer to tell them how dogshit they are

only thing you can die to on queen is webblades/waves combo

[royal lantern]

and you always have evasion for that juicy 20% magic dr

[flint comet]

hey quick question, is it me or not going sudden demise feels really bad in anything below a 13?

[royal lantern]

idk, only 2 prog days on it, but deffensives didnt feel scuffed yet

[royal lantern]

sudden death makes the spec feel a bit better when stuff dies faster

[fallow canopy]

you can feint everything and the hardest unavoidable dmg part 2nd yoink on p1 you just evasion + feint and shouldn't be an issue

[royal lantern]

so if you group is doing high dmg, ye its kinda bad, if the group dmg is on the lower side, it feels better again

[subtle tundra]

you cant feint everything lol

[royal lantern]

i use cloak for the 2nd yoink

idk

[fallow canopy]

obv an exaggeration but feint is really good so

[subtle tundra]

nope

feint is dogass on queen

[royal lantern]

your ass is dog

[fallow canopy]

alr

[flint comet]

what i think im gonna start doing is if i have augment I run Twist the knife, otherwise Sudden Demise, becuase having two more dps blasting the adds it makes them die too fast imo

[subtle tundra]

drop sanguine blades in that case

[royal lantern]

eh, first of all, reminder that mosst of Sudden Demise value is on the 10% bleed dmg, not the "execute"

and 2nd, assa m+ talents are kinda a meme, cus there are like 500 combinations of talents that all more or less do the same dmg at the end, you just shift the dmg type around

like, you go from "CT does more aoe dmg" to "i do a bit more priority dmg and spatter dmg", but the overall dmg stays almost equal

[flint comet]

yeah i guess ill have to do some testing just to see what it feels better for me

currently during either twist the knife or sudden demise

[royal lantern]

thats unironically kinda what you do rn

you test a bit and go with the thing you feel helps the most

[flint comet]

sudden demise feels good since one of my mates usually plays ret pala

[flint comet]

might test this tho

[royal lantern]

sanguine blades is the firsst talent you should drop for something else

[flint comet]

so drop sanguine blades into twist the knife + sudden demise maybe?

[tough prism]

Hi, can someone can help me to look at the logs, to see what I'm doing wrong on the ct boss m+?! PM me pls. Thanks

[elder kiln]

hey guys, is it me or cos is fairly unreliable ? recently in bora it hasn't made me immune to 3rd boss aoe (pool explosion), and on last hasn't made me immune to the dot (casting it before the thing landing on me)
also 1st boss NW no immune to breath
This is super odd cause i'm quite sure i've used it plenty of times before and it did made me immune
Or am i mistaken ?

Same thing for evasion on last boss of Boralus, didn't reduce the dmg taken despite being cast before (like half a sec before)

[spice spire]

!nw

[prisma monolith]

The breath/frontal from the first boss in Necrotic Wake is an attack, not a spell.

In order to immune the the breath, you must be in the first second of cloak of shadows (“a moment of magic immunity”). After the first second of cloak of shadows has elapsed, the attack will hit you and no longer be immuned.
Alternatively you can use evasion to dodge the breath.

[pale socket]

not sure bout the rest, but you can only use cloak into the last like 1 second of the cast for NW 1st boss. it's a physical cone (you can evasion it apparently)

that's a lot easier to type

[spice spire]

First second of cloak has super immunity and breaks most things

Anything after

You’re sol on some mechanics

[subtle tundra]

1. 3rd boss in siege i have no idea what youre talking about
2. last boss in siege, its not a cloak thing. you have to use defensive BEFORE the boss spits otherwise the defensive doesnt work on the initial dmg
3. NW, read the command

[elder kiln]

weird cause i'm pretty sure i've used cos on bora last boss like this before and it worked

3rd boss it's the aoe when the swirling pools on the floor explode

wdym read the command ?

[subtle tundra]

this

[elder kiln]

ah i see thx

[subtle tundra]

cloak on last boss works

just like every other defensive

[elder kiln]

well it sure hasn't and i just ran it, but prob cause i used it too late, during the travel time

[subtle tundra]

as i said, it works just like every other defensive

[elder kiln]

i didn't know about cos 1st second, ty guys
i'll definetly change how i use it from now on

[gloomy heart]

wait new patch is tmrw?

FOOK

[spice spire]

Yes

[gloomy heart]

idc abt the new patch but i just hate the downtime

blueballing my vault

[royal lantern]

time traveler confirmed

[gloomy heart]

Release the xmas outfits!

[coral ibex]

brother i've been in the festive spirit since the first of december

stay jolly

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-the-voices-jolly-christmas-gif-5774532700081404887

[sly gale]

sorry to bother, there's a macro to use thisle tea on kingslayer/shiv?

[spice spire]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[spice spire]

Not a bother at all big dog good luck!

[winged sun]

i didnt know u could shadowstep queen on pull intermission until i killed her

fml

i was shadowstepping our warlock

not a bad macro though

[spice spire]

Yep stepping pull is pretty ez

[agile wedge]

Explain for noobs plz

[royal lantern]

when you are midair from the pull

you step her

and it stops the pull

or just stepping anything really

[winged sun]

ye

[agile wedge]

So I don’t step into deathzone

[winged sun]

issue is i didnt rly have time to experiment stuff because they already killed the boss

i wanted to just play it purely safe

[royal lantern]

no

[winged sun]

even played vers flask

[royal lantern]

it puts you in front of her

[winged sun]

super easy fight tho

was this tier fast overall btw guys?

for guilds

or

[spice spire]

Nah court was a bitch for a lot of guilds

[winged sun]

ah

[spice spire]

If you passed court it was fine

[winged sun]

ye court looks tough af

didnt try her yet

jumped straight to queen

mega hyped for s2 tho

rly want to prog bosses again

[humble verge]

im about to jump straight from princess prog to queen prog

[nimble tartan]

any ptr chads know how much work need for ring 💍

[humble verge]

ptr 😴

[fleet sorrel]

quick question, are we using clear witnesses proc in st?

[winged sun]

btw we get season 2 ptr next reset or?

[winged quail]

yes

[winged sun]

or did they not talk about that yet

[royal lantern]

its really slow

really really slow lol

this raid is in one of the hardest tiers we had in a long time just cus of court/queen prog time for 99% of guilds

court 2weeks ago had ~1k guilds stuck on it lol

[nimble tartan]

only if u do NOT have vicious venoms talented

[coral ibex]

court sucked and then i had to kill it after the 2nd nerf

which really was a feels bad