assassination

[novel star]

[keen spruce]

I'll just get kills when my guild reclears

[clever sapphire]

smart

santa shmeeps wishes for a full reclear in that case?

[keen spruce]

nah they just got to queen

yesterday

they did have a few pulls technically finish p1

but nothin clean yet

that boss does seem a little gutted though

shouldn't take em too long

[midnight mist]

court is harder

[clever sapphire]

i did hear that court is harder ye

i wouldnt know

[novel star]

queen nerfs way bigger than court nerfs

[keen spruce]

I think they had court figured out in about 150 pulls

then just had fucks ups for the next 100

but we're always a super high pull count guild

but low prog time

relatively*

[midnight mist]

how does that work

you guys just perma wipe in the first 30s

[keen spruce]

wipe fast pull fast

idk

[midnight mist]

big

[novel star]

quick wipes

inflating pull count

[clever sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/20-twenty-minutes-rick-and-morty-gif-12928450

[keen spruce]

we were slamin 20s wipes on Fyrakk when we were very much on "any pull this boss is dead" mode

we're a little speshul

[clever sapphire]

well kill is a kill

pull size is just a number

it cant hurt you

[keen spruce]

ye I don't think I'd ever leave my guild

[clever sapphire]

unless you are comparing pull sizes

[keen spruce]

unless I somehow got the bug for HoF raiding

which is highly unlikely

[novel star]

i never got a chance to get attached to a guild so far

[keen spruce]

noon-3 raiding on Sat Sun is a pretty cushy gig

[novel star]

they all keep dying

[keen spruce]

I been there

[novel star]

hopefully seeing wat hof gaming is like next tier

[clever sapphire]

relatable

[novel star]

[clever sapphire]

well not my last guild, i left that because the vibes were horrible

it was a CE guild tho

[keen spruce]

I'm very vibes first now

I'm too old to sacrifice my free time for stooges

that I don't like

[clever sapphire]

ye i just care less about CE and more about actually enjoying myself

[novel star]

i just started raiding this tier left first one cus they were like Really bad + unfortunate vibes in the overly positive and uncaring type of way

[clever sapphire]

if i am locked in a group for 6+ hours a week i better enjoy it

[novel star]

then the next 2 guilds i got in just imploded

idk

[keen spruce]

ye my guild is comfy CE but not pushing rankings

I think Fyrakk was the latest one they got in a long time

but that was a weird tier

[clever sapphire]

gotta try to find a guild thats been there for a while now

[keen spruce]

and we still were several weeks before season end

[clever sapphire]

not a fresh one

[novel star]

yeh

[keen spruce]

The mid-mythic / push for CE

class of guild is very shakey

[clever sapphire]

im never joining a "fresh guild built of CE players" gig again

[novel star]

i just waited for offers tho rather than actually applying to stuff

[keen spruce]

lots of exploding

[novel star]

ye two of that in a row

[keen spruce]

lots of attrition

[novel star]

for me

[keen spruce]

and lots of raiders

[novel star]

lol

[keen spruce]

that just use them as stepping stones

so the rosters always get smoked

https://tenor.com/view/loyal-these-hoes-aint-loyal-escalator-chris-brown-gif-4923666

[runic hinge]

Prime day drinking hours

[keen spruce]

[runic hinge]

But tbh would be perfect for my schedule

[novel star]

me

[keen spruce]

raid beers big

[clever sapphire]

its funny when they say "CE raiders", then you look them up and last time they got CE was when mythic released

[runic hinge]

If I could quit leaving the house

They need a rogue since you’re retired?

[keen spruce]

u gotta move somewhere that has more golf sims

so we can squad up

[novel star]

better is “ce guild” but season 4 df killed the entire thing down to literally like 3 players

[keen spruce]

on facetime

[runic hinge]

There’s a few around now

[novel star]

and they recruited 17 shitters without caring at all about them underperforming

but still advertised as ce

[keen spruce]

they had the rogue that quit before I joined come back and there's another one on the team

[clever sapphire]

dont get me started on season 4 of DF xD

[keen spruce]

but my GM is a rogue enjoyer

and Nyx is probably better than me

[clever sapphire]

last guild is advertising as a 4 CE guild, because we killed fyrakk on S3 and killed all other raids in S4

[novel star]

????

[keen spruce]

and he multi-specs

[clever sapphire]

but like, who counts S4 as getting CE

[novel star]

mickey mouse season

[keen spruce]

[runic hinge]

Ahh well I’m pretty mid so

[keen spruce]

it's also noon-3 PST

[clever sapphire]

dont talk yourself down, you are THE rogue they need

[keen spruce]

if u wanna check it out tho

lmk

worst they'll say is no

[runic hinge]

Jesus that’s 9 am

[keen spruce]

wut

[runic hinge]

Wait

[novel star]

where u live

[keen spruce]

that's not how time zones work sir

[novel star]

the ocean?

[clever sapphire]

im not falling for that

[novel star]

wtf

[keen spruce]

he just

[runic hinge]

I went the wrong way

[keen spruce]

doesn't know left from right

[novel star]

boat gaming

HAHAH

[runic hinge]

It’s 4 am here

[keen spruce]

lmao

it's 3-6pm your time

[runic hinge]

I mean I’m already on satellite internet

[keen spruce]

like a 3rd of our guild raids from europe or brazil

I wouldn't worry about your internet

[runic hinge]

Yeah except when it snows

[novel star]

[clever sapphire]

whenever i see brazil, i have to think of mordekaiser ult in league because of a meme in my friend group

[keen spruce]

ok just raid in the spring them

[keen spruce]

huehuehuehue

[runic hinge]

[novel star]

ears

[clever sapphire]

also completly off topic, i hope the ring stays as garbage as it is currently

then i dont have to touch the new zone

[keen spruce]

it won't

[novel star]

yea it won’t

[clever sapphire]

ye i know

i remember the DF ring

[keen spruce]

it'll get overbuffed a week before the patch, Whispyr will have a breakdown updting everything and answering questions about it

and we're all gonna have to go farm it

[runic hinge]

Yay! I like playing wow

[keen spruce]

and we're gonna get a lotta mileage out of the "check the pins" emote

[novel star]

but it’s whispyr of recovered mental

[clever sapphire]

and log reviews are gonna go into "ye sorry, your .7 ring just didnt proc at the correct times"

[novel star]

how could he have a breakdown

with recovered mental

[clever sapphire]

blizzard patchnotes can work wonders

[keen spruce]

well it's recovered rn

[novel star]

ye so it’s like a barrier

[keen spruce]

Whispyr's mental is like an Eminem discography

[novel star]

at worst he becomes whispyr of standard mental

[keen spruce]

we're waitin for relapse

[novel star]

mmmm

[keen spruce]

then depending on how cringe everyone is in here

[novel star]

i see

[keen spruce]

we're gettin kamikaze

[novel star]

yeah

[clever sapphire]

well now thats not even a question

[keen spruce]

or get the guns

[clever sapphire]

we all know how patch notes hit the discord servers

[runic hinge]

Sky is falling

[novel star]

11.0.7 drops and u just simply ignore discord

and play poe

[clever sapphire]

already doing it

[novel star]

yeah same

[keen spruce]

part of your duty is to call people illiterate baboons

how else will they learn

[novel star]

i do enjoy doing that

[keen spruce]

that's how I learned

[novel star]

a lot

[clever sapphire]

and i just realised that either i suck or poe is not actually as easy as i thought

[novel star]

poe2 specifically is hard

1 is not

[clever sapphire]

phew good

so i do not suck that badly

[clever sapphire]

maybe thats why im not that good yet

i didnt get that treatment

[novel star]

i mean you probably still suck a bit

making good builds is hard i’m a noob too

nothing is really like solved yet

[keen spruce]

u just gotta say dumber stuff

[clever sapphire]

i just copy one from mobalytics

[novel star]

oop

[keen spruce]

I was such a fkin moron in legion

[clever sapphire]

i remember my Cursedloc times

[keen spruce]

[clever sapphire]

saying the most cursed takes

[keen spruce]

I mean I still am

but I realllllly was back then

crusedl c

[clever sapphire]

good old times

now im reformed

im just a murloc with a k

[runic hinge]

I didn’t talk in here for a month or so

Just reading

So I wouldn’t be instant baboon

[keen spruce]

yeah but then u started hanging out in OT

[runic hinge]

Yeah and now I’m return to monke

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-smash-wood-playing-gif-17749007

[runic hinge]

[clever sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/mono-gif-18377629

[runic hinge]

OT was an even scarier place

[keen spruce]

it was such a trip running into mack in there

I joined his emote server in Legion

and didn't talk to him after that

then saw him in OT like a couple of months ago

[runic hinge]

Wild

[undone hamlet]

guys whats better, blessed weapon grip or ascendence? for M+ and raid

[subtle tundra]

☹️

[quiet oar]

I remember These times

[normal mist]

It's whatever

Ascendance is better for raid, dawnthread is better for m+

Realistically it doesn't matter

Embellishments are dog poop

[undone hamlet]

ayt thanks for the info

[soft surge]

Is ascendancy better than 2 max myth rank daggers

In raid

[midnight mist]

thats a top gear question cuh

[quick condor]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[subtle tundra]

aight cuh what about you
erm

whatever im beating a dead horse.

[midnight mist]

what what about me

[subtle tundra]

im tired boss...

cant even make fun of french

[midnight mist]

Hm

I'm french it's true

[rugged umbra]

Does caustic splatter damage work with singular focus?

[balmy condor]

yes

[warm vortex]

Luckily I enjoying doing some 10s last night

Played both Assa and sub

Also hi everyone
The final Tuesday where I have to sit in this room for 4 hours straight

[subtle tundra]

this is not a room

mf

[normal mist]

[novel star]

could be

[subtle tundra]

kick me in the balls

[novel star]

only if you do it back

[warm vortex]

I wasn’t referng to the Assa channel dork :p

[warm vortex]

Hiii

[earnest remnant]

anything can be a panic room, just give me 1min

[clever sapphire]

well its still gonna come out if people start talking about shadowlands, i still prefer shadowlands over DF

even tww so far i guess, since delves are just a worse torghast for me

[clever sapphire]

have you tried standing up?

works for me when i dont wanna sit

[warm vortex]

I did just get up to walk for a sec and it helps

But I’m tired and have a headache

[clever sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/get-well-soon-cat-cute-gif-6655604552655359480

[midnight mist]

you arent forced to do delves tho

[clever sapphire]

i started late S2 in sl, so i wasnt forced to do torghast either

and well i enjoyed torghast

so it didnt feel forced

[warm vortex]

ew choreghast

Imo I’d take delves over choreghast

[midnight mist]

hm

i think you had to to get lego money no ?

and unlock some leggos i dont remmeber

[clever sapphire]

well since i started there i didnt know shit about the game, i just did whatever i wanted

[midnight mist]

i think it was the money

[clever sapphire]

by the time i knew about minmaxing things i had all of the things needed

for the first few months i didnt even know about guides

i just played whatever

[midnight mist]

iirc thorghast gave you a currency

that was time gated

[clever sapphire]

ye i had a ton of it

[midnight mist]

so you needed to do them each week

[clever sapphire]

timegated sucks as always

but i wouldnt mind farming torghast

i hated doing delves at the start of the season tho

[warm vortex]

Bro when I started I was like
12

Had no idea how to do anything

Hell even up to like DF s2 I was clueless

[clever sapphire]

so the only thing that changed is you growing up

[warm vortex]

Just the most socially anxious clueless wow player

Pretty much tbh

[clever sapphire]

if i didnt have rogue discord i would probably be doing gray logs

ngl

[warm vortex]

Me too tbf

[frozen shale]

how to do the shadowmalt macro?

[lusty kraken]

so is the new ring an upgrade or nah

[clever sapphire]

as it stands? 0.4% worse than a 626 ring

according to what i saw whispyr say earlier today

[lusty kraken]

at max ilvl?

[clever sapphire]

aye

[lusty kraken]

sheesh

[clever sapphire]

but its gonna get buffed

[lusty kraken]

only blizzard could release garbage unique items

remember fyralath on release?

[clever sapphire]

try this
/stopattack
/cast Shadowmeld
/cast !Stealth

[winged quail]

Dw they’ll over buff it and make it bis for half of next season too

[frozen shale]

ty

[clever sapphire]

just like they did in DF with the exact same ring

[lusty kraken]

i doubt that

[warm vortex]

I hope it’s like onix

Loved that thing

[clever sapphire]

[lusty kraken]

from what I heard they got greedy for that sub time and you need like 6 weeks to fully upgrade the ring

[winged quail]

Fuck that

[lusty kraken]

and you have like what, 2 weeks of actually enjoying it?

[winged quail]

At least annulet could be done in a day or two

[clever sapphire]

because we all know that wow players like time gated things right?

[lusty kraken]

I swear blizzard is one of the more incompetent developers

[winged quail]

PoE2 angle

[clever sapphire]

tbh they get your money, so they are doing a good job

[warm vortex]

Ok

[clever sapphire]

if its fun? thats a different thing

[warm vortex]

Normally I would say it gives you time to explore the zone and have fun but

That would be like 2 weeks

6 weeks is uhh

Yea too long

[lusty kraken]

no, they got very greedy

[winged quail]

Tbf new island has some sick fucking transmogs that could we worth farming

[lusty kraken]

first with gearing taking the entire season to get full bis

[warm vortex]

Yes ik that’s what i meant rob

[lusty kraken]

now with this crap

[clever sapphire]

i already didnt like that the first month had almost nothing to do

now the new content is 30 minutes of content for 6 weeks

poooog

[lusty kraken]

if next season is the same I won't even bother playing

[winged quail]

Any alt I make gets to the point where I need to grind 100 dungeons to catch up and gets dropped instantly

[rotund oak]

definitely poe 2 angle

[clever sapphire]

ay relatable, thats the reason i dont have any alts geared

[royal lantern]

do you, like, actually know that

or go full redditor

with "i heared, dont check, now im angry"

[lusty kraken]

unfortunately i made the mistake of subbing for 6 months at the start of the expansion

[winged quail]

I did that in SL, big mistake

[rotund oak]

they need to add a stupid bad luck protection vendor

[lusty kraken]

with blizzard this is a pattern

[rotund oak]

its so obvious

[royal lantern]

like, where does the 6weeks thing comming from

[royal lantern]

so no

ok

you are angry over nothing

[lusty kraken]

I only heard from other people so

[royal lantern]

[lusty kraken]

angry?

[clever sapphire]

i mean the 100 dungeons grind is for the crests/valor stones

[royal lantern]

idk, just double the crest gain after 2 months or smth like that

[rotund oak]

u dont rly need that much now but ye

its about half

[normal mist]

For gilded

[clever sapphire]

just feckin remove valorstones

[normal mist]

Is around 100 timed dungeons

[winged quail]

Eh the class I was playing as an alt had 3 pieces of crafted BiS which takes 270 gilded crests which is 23 dungeons alone

[rotund oak]

woudlnt say no

[clever sapphire]

like why do i need 3 dungeons for 1 upgrade

dunno if its the exact math but ye

[rotund oak]

we dont even have that many gilded crests max cap brother

its like 1140

12 is for each timed 8+

[normal mist]

Maths

[clever sapphire]

well he did say around

so it checks out

[rotund oak]

u get couple of loots from raid,u craft some,get from vault some

its 14 slots

u would need

hold on

[normal mist]

I don't raid mythic nor I do m10

[warm vortex]

Tbh I’m fine with the gearing
Sort of
Ok “fine” as in it could be better and worse
But fearing alts sucks

[clever sapphire]

anyways, gearing alts is horrible

[winged quail]

That’s if u only grind gilded tho, a lot of gear needs some of the lower crests to get up to gilded level

[rotund oak]

i dont raid either brotherman,just farm my 10s,thats all

[clever sapphire]

any argument against it usually happens when you have people do 10s with your 600 ilvl char or guildies "boosting" your char in mythic raid

[normal mist]

Then besides farming m+, you can only get 30 gilded

From the last 2 bosses in hc

[rotund oak]

i can be 634 anytime i want,just waiting for vault,might rng a trinket or wpn and ive timed 29 10s and 45 8s

[warm vortex]

Doing anything minus premade with alts is misery to gear

[rotund oak]

u dont need that many runs to get to 635 ilvl

[winged quail]

I’m now 636 on main praying for a myth chest to drop from vault since I’m not killing Mythic Ansurek

[normal mist]

The thing was just how many runs you need to cap gilded

That's it

[clever sapphire]

i mean my main is barely 635 and i have been playing 10+ keys every week and mythic raiding (ok I didnt myth raid for 1 month)

so doing the same thing on an alt, it would just be rerolling at that point

[rotund oak]

if u raid u need even less keys but ye,my lil ponytails is a ''living'' proof of 73 keys,sitting on a gilded craft and vault..

idk what else

[warm vortex]

Tbh

[clever sapphire]

this is the first week where i cant actually spend my gilded crests

and well i could if i crafted items

[warm vortex]

Doing the dungeons themselves isn’t an issue

In alts

Getting into the dungeons is the problem

[rotund oak]

actually same 😂

idk what to upgrade,just need 2-3 loots and im done

i can be 634ilvl anytime i want

[clever sapphire]

well i have shoulder/cape/boots/skardyn

so i have 4 slots still on 626

2 i could craft

[rotund oak]

i need a wpn,skadryns and neck/back(hero track from raid)

so only upgrades would be ilvl which kinda irrelevant

[warm vortex]

Tbf I need neck then I’m p much 638

[clever sapphire]

aye thats also true, but you also wouldnt invite a 600-610 ilvl "main is 3k" guy to your weekly key

or would you?

[warm vortex]

I have 3 crafted items

Tbh

Depends on the class

If it’s a surv or something maybe

[clever sapphire]

ye i dont see that happening

[warm vortex]

I’ve seen one at like 615 hit 1.4 mil or something

[winged quail]

Man I timed 10s on my rat 610 dk and it was tanker than my rogue

[warm vortex]

They seem fucking nutty atm

[rotund oak]

huge

[clever sapphire]

yes but the point is, if you have a 610 dk sign up and a 635 rogue, you are not taking the 610 dk even if his main has more rio

[winged quail]

Yeah ofc

[warm vortex]

I meannnnn

[winged quail]

Having premades is OP

[warm vortex]

What if I’m playing rogue

[clever sapphire]

and thats why getting into keys on alts is hard

[winged quail]

Man fuck autocorrect

[clever sapphire]

because your alt is competing with spots against others mains

[warm vortex]

It’s so fucking annoying

[rotund oak]

just play a mage,i swear u get insta inv'd everywhere and from everyone

[warm vortex]

Or it would rather call itself ducking (??????) annoying

[rotund oak]

my mage on launch was super trash

i got invs everywhere

[clever sapphire]

616 mage, cant confirm, not getting any invites to even 8s

[warm vortex]

Or play arms if you want a hard mode

[normal mist]

Can I quit wow when MHwilds gets released?

[rotund oak]

my mage got invs to 8-10s 615-618 all the time

i didnt even sweat

[clever sapphire]

poe2 released already, you got your reason

[normal mist]

It didn't release

[clever sapphire]

lucky you i guess? im not getting anything

[normal mist]

I can't play it

[clever sapphire]

ye its alpha bla bla

still got more than enough content

[normal mist]

No I mean

I ain't pay now to play a free game

[clever sapphire]

eh game is good enough for me to pay for it

[rotund oak]

i think,unironically right now might be harder to get into keys than launch,ppl are being weird idk

[normal mist]

Not for me since I also didn't play poe1

So idk what it is about

[warm vortex]

Maybe he plays frost mage

Can’t sweat when your cold constantly

I mean you can

[clever sapphire]

its the usual "high keys only run pala tank, priest heal, enh shaman and xyz 2nd spec with aug"

[rotund oak]

its a very nice game man should def try it

[warm vortex]

But that’s not the point

[clever sapphire]

so they dont invite anything else

[clever sapphire]

same, but poe 2 is fun

[rotund oak]

yup

[normal mist]

I will when it gets fully released

[clever sapphire]

cold sweat hello?

[warm vortex]

Murlock look at what I sent after

[rotund oak]

u can try poe 1 now,test the waters n stuff

[warm vortex]

You scoundrel

[clever sapphire]

fair enough, me blind

[normal mist]

I didn't really enjoy the 2-3h I played poe1

[warm vortex]

Me smash

What you looking at?

[clever sapphire]

im thinking about food, i should probably eat something

[normal mist]

Is it lunch hour for you?

[clever sapphire]

almost 1 am

so ye

wait am or pm

[normal mist]

11:41 for me

[rotund oak]

its very complicated game,i didnt like it at all at start,i couldnt do anything,didnt understand anything but i liked how vast and deep the rabbit hole goes,it won me after ive made my first toxic rain/pathfinder

[clever sapphire]

i always confuse this

its 12:41

[normal mist]

Am - morning

[clever sapphire]

so almost 13

than its almost 1 pm

[normal mist]

I want 12:30 so I can go lunch

I'm starving

[clever sapphire]

hi starving, im murloc

[normal mist]

Hmmmmmm I WILL try poe2 but I doubt I'll touch 1 again

[warm vortex]

Hey murlock. Can you check how good my fish tongue is
Mrgllrr brgglr!!

[rotund oak]

ill be there for u :3

anything u might want

[clever sapphire]

eyo, stop flirting with me

[normal mist]

There's a lot of flirting going around

[warm vortex]

[normal mist]

Sap also didn't hold back

[clever sapphire]

nothing new to the channel

[warm vortex]

Where are the feet
Where are the bears
Where are the stats
Where are the sims
Where is the complaining

[rotund oak]

i never do man,but its sin channel u can flirt :3

[normal mist]

Hehehehe

[clever sapphire]

its horny time, those the last 3 are coming tomorrow with the vaults

[warm vortex]

Grllkk mrglil brgll mgrll!

[normal mist]

I can share that I'm happy with my heroic logs right?

[warm vortex]

[warm vortex]

Sure thing bud

Nearly said hun

KEK

[clever sapphire]

aight time to go and search for some food

[rotund oak]

[normal mist]

You wanted to

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/grim-batol/royalflux dis me

[warm vortex]

Assassination rogue players see this and think “hell yea”

[normal mist]

For a casual raider I believe that's pretty good

[warm vortex]

I stg if you are

A belf, or nelf

Yaya you aren’t

Lemmie get mine

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/elves-gif-24943874

[warm vortex]

Stopped rlly doing heroic

Or raiding in general

Ew second one has an ad

[inland escarp]

I am dwarf who uses gleeful to go nelf 🥲

[warm vortex]

I’m goblin

Discord mobile fucking sucks

[normal mist]

I didn't do it for 2/3 weeks and broke records this week on the parses

[inland escarp]

Facts

[warm vortex]

Fair

I could prolly go into a pug and parse like a motherfucker

But seriously CBA

[normal mist]

I did the raid this week for a chance at ring

Left with orange logs

I would never imagine I'd beat my personal best ST by almost 200k

[warm vortex]

Wait you on EU?
We should friend on bnet

[normal mist]

Yeah I'm EU, I thought you were na

[royal lantern]

all the good people are

[warm vortex]

I’m British bot

*boy

Not bot

[normal mist]

Holy

I've told you to go to bed so many times tho, haven't i

Nevermind it wasn't you

Foggy memories

It was Lilianana

I sent you the btag

[warm vortex]

KEK

Nice! I’ll add it when home

Idk if we can play together though? I assume it isn’t like all EU realms can play together

[normal mist]

You can

Not like I play the game seriously currently, but you can play with anyone

If they are on EU

Even Russians

[warm vortex]

Fair I’m quel thalas :D

[normal mist]

Hello quel thalas I'm Royal

https://tenor.com/view/got-em-lmao-mind-blown-squad-gif-17265113

[warm vortex]

Pog

[sharp viper]

goblin deez nuts HA GOTEM

[warm vortex]

Yea I GOTEM NUTS

[warm vortex]

Genuinely at this point the ring is worthless

For me

Have 1 myth ring

And next patch I’ll get the big ring

[molten flicker]

I did a 14 stonevault, in skarmorak's room, 5 sec into the pull I got aggro on the main baddie (with the tank buster and nasty aoe channel).
popped evasion but with cloak on cd and the magic dmg tank buster coming I just died.
the team then started berating me and laughing at me for not playing tricks like it was clearly the wrong choice for keys as anyone would know.. 😭

[golden loom]

wait wat is patch new week 😮

for some reason I thought it would be after new years

[normal mist]

I still have a 619 champion xD

And it's fine

[warm vortex]

Tricks

[normal mist]

Idk if I'm going to farm the new ring. Depends on what I have else to do

[warm vortex]

Imma do it

Not much else to do tbh

[golden loom]

leveling a sub rogue in time walking dungeons with friends is some of the most fun I've had with 1 hour tricks

was just running ahead aggroing everything and telling them to figure it out

[normal mist]

I'm playing other games. My gf grew so tired of wow this season... She started playing Stardew valley

[warm vortex]

Stardew valley is goated

[royal lantern]

getting Krobus as roommate is the only thing i allow

[warm vortex]

I went with Sebastian

But mainly focused on making money

[normal mist]

I've no idea what she's doing other than collecting stars and naming her animals with family members names

[warm vortex]

That’s cute tbf

[normal mist]

She's like year 3 or something

It's cute watching a m+ wow player quitting for Stardew valley

[warm vortex]

Lmao

Also staff training this month sucks

I’m at uni late today so unless I leave early I can get it tonight
I’m booking annual leave next Saturday
The one next Tuesday is on patch day
The one on the 20th is a fuck no as that’s my birthday
And the 28th is going to be PACKED

[normal mist]

But overall you are doing alrighty?

[warm vortex]

Yuh

[clever sapphire]

sounds like your tank sucks ass

because tricks aint doing anything

actually it does one thing, fucks up NW last boss if you get sent to the add

also am i gonna do another 4 keys for a full vault or do i not care and accept that i have 2 m+ slots and 2 mythic raid slots

[subtle tundra]

Packed like me

[subtle tundra]

If tank can't hold aggro in a small pack from a rogue then he's a pisser

I've got aggro on big pulls where i target a mob that the tank doesn't

[molten flicker]

I came here for support because I was feeling sad

[subtle tundra]

Aka stonevault first pull

[rugged umbra]

i mean 5 seconds into the pull ur still setting up, no?

[molten flicker]

nah, small pull with 5 mobs

[subtle tundra]

I kill the 2nd golem and I have to evasion early and then tricks early and still die from aggro

[molten flicker]

just started blasting about then

[rugged umbra]

ah yea, makes sense

[molten flicker]

maybe 1 or 2 envenoms in

so I guess he wasn't main targeting that mob, but I feel like everyone should cleave off him because he is the one who does dmg

unless you stand in swirlies or ignore interrupts

[warm vortex]

I’ll make you packed smh

[molten flicker]

I also often get aggro in big pulls on the one mob I have marked (because tank likely has to pull aggro from other more bursty classes already?) but normally evasion is more than enough for everything to stabilize

but not when there's a tank buster that is full magic and I'm a squishy rogue without cloak

[royal lantern]

its 2024, tanks dont lose aggro except uf you go full unga bunga blast 0,2seconds after they touched enemys once and still gather them

[molten flicker]

well what can I say, can't really go full unga bunga with garrote and rupture

[royal lantern]

ye

[molten flicker]

that pack is nothing to gather anyway since they stand together

[royal lantern]

then the tank is just bad and should maybe not be afk

[molten flicker]

yes pls 🙈

[rugged umbra]

are u premade with ur tank or is it a pug tank?

[glacial stump]

Nah bro, defo the healer

always a healer issue

[rugged umbra]

could have just healed

[midnight mist]

Tank Perma lose agro I swear

[earnest remnant]

they do yeah

but tricks aint finna do shit for that unfortunately

[spice spire]

Ur so real for that stealthi

[stark scroll]

I started to noticed more healers being the issue when I started play DH Tank

[keen mist]

Tricks is personal cd to spread dots

[stark scroll]

I have to play sub tonight for my BTM team

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-smoke-monkey-smoke-smoking-space-gif-430262250616604924

[coral ibex]

[clever sapphire]

just play trickster, its almost like playing spatter as assa

[molten flicker]

Behind The Moon?

[molten flicker]

no it was a pug

[stark scroll]

Yeah I did a 6 last night to test it

I pulled 1.3 mill 😂

[clever sapphire]

ah just send everything

dont hold cooldowns

[fathom roost]

Why wouldn't you just use tricks at the start of every pull.
Set tank as focus. Make a cast tricks @ focus macro and use it always

[whole snow]

Is the ring DOA for ass rogue too

or is it going to be worth

[stark scroll]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/xzVb8f2FAJy9MZ7n?fight=8&type=summary

lol

[molten flicker]

can't have tank as focus when focus interrupting, but the weakaura macro works, yes

[stark scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/its-not-lookin-good-brev-castillo-castillo_1st-sniper-out-on-all-digital-platforms-big-man-ting-gif-26234544

I feel like I was randomly usuing backstab when I shouldve been shuriken

Sometimes when i backstab i get for combo points and sometimes i dont

[molten flicker]

point is that the other choice on that node is better?

[stark scroll]

idk i usually play outlaw when I dont play sin

never touched sub in my life

[fathom roost]

Ahh I see

[stark scroll]

I dont agree

[solar wyvern]

They just buffed it so sims are all out of wack. Who knows

[stark scroll]

we need tricks

so we can pull before the tnak

and get bleeds running

[subtle tundra]

What does that have to do with what I said

[fathom roost]

Tricks is pretty handy. Helps your teammates not rip threat as well. Part of rogues good utility

[stark scroll]

dont have time to start with other people

[solar wyvern]

My favorite is when i send dm kb into the prio mob

And halfway through their healthbar turns orange after tricks ended

And im just lik

Oh no

[midnight mist]

using tricks on focus in 2024

grow up

[fathom roost]

Lol y'all dying to threat on a class that gets to transfer it all off for free and you're making fun of me

Cringe

[midnight mist]

real real

i know you aint kicking in your keys tho

no focus gg

[solar wyvern]

Trust me when i say this brother, sometimes I'm just doing so much damage i rip aggro through tricks

Shit happens

[subtle tundra]

Yea maybe if you did dmg you'd die too

[midnight mist]

[earnest remnant]

through tricks "shouldnt" be possible

[fathom roost]

Dont need focus to kick 😅

[earnest remnant]

but after it ends sure

[fathom roost]

It's a nice crutch but not necessary

[midnight mist]

[solar wyvern]

I swear its bugged af sometimes man

[fathom roost]

Click the bar..?

[midnight mist]

need i say more

real

just click the bar

[solar wyvern]

Okay hes trolling

Haha

Tbh keybinds are a crutch

Just click the spells in your spellbook

[fathom roost]

Idk man ez 3.1k io never had to focus to kick

[solar wyvern]

Like a real man

[subtle tundra]

3.1k lol

[fathom roost]

Also never die to threat cuz tricks op

[subtle tundra]

😭

[midnight mist]

bind focus kick and you can get to 3.2k

no cap bro

[solar wyvern]

Just type the /cast spell id each time into your chat

[ebon notch]

Crutch

Whose mans is this

Lmao

[solar wyvern]

Like the realest of keyboard warrior

[midnight mist]

how high is 3k1

is that all 10s or

[solar wyvern]

Some 14s and 13s

[whole snow]

yeah

all 10s

[ebon notch]

No lmao all 10s is like 2.6k

[earnest remnant]

tricks might stop yourself from getting aggro, but it wont stop the enhancement shaman from ripping it

[midnight mist]

ah mb

[stark scroll]

thats all 8's

[spice surge]

Its roughly +100 score for every 1 level of keys zac

[solar wyvern]

So tru bestie

[royal lantern]

the aoe interupt giving every enemy 30%dr is good utility

[ebon notch]

Wait I have like 10k score wth

[royal lantern]

not the threat redirection that doesnt do anything

[stark scroll]

@midnight mist what do you think play outlaw in sin gear with haste rings and pot that gets me to 20% haste or first time sub for BTM

[earnest remnant]

10 seconds of (you) not getting aggro

most useless pile of garbage on the planet

its only use is if you need to pull something for the tank

[royal lantern]

^

and how often does that happen

[earnest remnant]

or if you wanna be a rat on Queen ansurek and bolt up the stair case and pad on small spiders

[stark scroll]

every dungeon

[royal lantern]

how many people in this world use tricks like that

[stark scroll]

I pull before tank

every pull

[royal lantern]

like, you can count them on 1 hand at best

[solar wyvern]

Mastery is a yucky stat for outlaw

[stark scroll]

this is why I am not invited to any dungeons above 12

[stark scroll]

luckily I only have 60% of it

yeah youre probably right

sub jsut feels icky to play

[solar wyvern]

Thats 25% more than my outlaw set haha

[stark scroll]

this is how sub feels every minute and a half

[earnest remnant]

outlaw is yucky period

[stark scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/spam-gif-10811817447080815426

[spice surge]

No

[solar wyvern]

Idk sub is kinda fun rn, trickster is pretty cool

Having to swap evis and bp based on target count

[stark scroll]

I dont mind trickster

do you us BP?

[fathom roost]

Why wouldn't it? It transfers all your threat to the tank. So now the enhance has to rip of the tank + you combined

[stark scroll]

I thought you dont click it

🍁

:ekk

[solar wyvern]

At 5+ yea, thye mega buffed it lol

[midnight mist]

mastery is useless for outlaw unfortunatly, you also need a set amount of haste to be able to play the spec now ..

[stark scroll]

rip!

they should make all stats uniform for a class so swapping is seamless

[solar wyvern]

How much threat are you really generating during dot spreading

If you tricks later the shaman has already ripped aggro

[royal lantern]

do you know how threat works in wow

like

the tank pressing a single aoe ability does more threat then you do in 7seconds lol

and you give the tank dps threat

not tank threat

[coral ibex]

tricks isn't to fix the tank's threat its to fix YOURS

so YOU dont die

[stark scroll]

correct

[royal lantern]

+rogue is a class that doesnt generate that much threat anyway

assas aoe dmg is a bit delayed

sub doesnt generate threat with its big burst ability cus secret tech doesnt generate any threat

outlaw players dont deserve human rights

[stark scroll]

dps do 1:1 threat production, tanks usually do !;6

meaning fore every 20k damage you do you get 20k threat

[earnest remnant]

you dont generate that much bro xD

[stark scroll]

for every 20k they do they get a giga buttload

[fathom roost]

Yes but you + the tank makes it easier for the tank to hold than just the tank

[stark scroll]

the tank should have issues

[coral ibex]

no

[fathom roost]

Some + more = more than just some

[coral ibex]

your threat contribution to the tank's is meaningless

[royal lantern]

it doesnt help the tank hold aggro

[coral ibex]

in that context

[austere bramble]

Hi is therer any information on the 11.0.7 ring coming and how effective it is for the assassination specialization as it pertains to ROGUE in World of Warcraft, the Massively Multiplayer Online Roleplaying Game by Blizzard Entertainment, a subsidiary of Microsoft?

[stark scroll]

if a ret or enhance is pulling off the rip everytime thats a tank problem

[royal lantern]

like

[coral ibex]

reroll shaman

[spice surge]

Its not worth using

[stark scroll]

what the fuck

[royal lantern]

if anything it means you dont die first

[clever sapphire]

is this chatgpt?

[royal lantern]

and instead the other 2 dps/the healer get clapped

[stark scroll]

@midnight mist

can you answer this guy please

[royal lantern]

but it doessnt make the tank hold aggro suddenly lol

[coral ibex]

during tricks you will generate 100 threat and in that same time the tank is going to generate approx 1000 threat

[stark scroll]

Why is this tricks discussion still going on

seriously fucking stupid

its not difficult

[solar wyvern]

Mr markirby doesn't agree

So people be discussing

[midnight mist]

the whospar guy told me it was poopy skibidi

[royal lantern]

can confirm, negative aura and 0 rizz

[clever sapphire]

i still have the screenshot of that

[solar wyvern]

Thats it

Buff the ring another 40€

%**

Then again...

We could charge the players money to buff the ring!

[clever sapphire]

nono you are onto something here

[royal lantern]

now you got the CEO mindset

dont get shot

[austere bramble]

Thanks for breaking this down in a way that is comprehensible to me, a large language mo- regular player playing world of warcraft rogue

[stark scroll]

what are your guys thoughts on paying irl money for valorstones

[solar wyvern]

Just LoS it

[royal lantern]

idk, im always at cap

[coral ibex]

can i pay to get shot in the dick instead

[royal lantern]

thats called kidney stone

[stark scroll]

microsoft lootboxes with gilded crests in them

[coral ibex]

brother stay hydrated

wallahi my kidneys are clean

[stark scroll]

sumdullala

[royal lantern]

a friend had them once

yeha

when they reach the "it hurts so much, i had to throw up" part, you realise that its not something you want

[solar wyvern]

Kidney stones are why i stopped energy drinks

Too risky

[spark pulsar]

CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeMzMzMzwMAAAAAAAzyMmtZAAAAAAotlZmBzMYmZWmtxMDmZmZGMmZzyYGgNzyADYJYZYCMsMA
In this m+ talent isn't it worth it to drop Twist the Knife and get Sudden Demise instead? i simmed and lost 20k dps ST and gained 20k dps Dungeon slice, but my idea is that you're not always gonna play the perfect game like the sim and some bosses gonna have some downtime and the aoe bonus might be worth it on the long run.

[solar wyvern]

I think you've answered your own quest

U want boss dps or more overall?

[spark pulsar]

i mean i want opinions lol

[royal lantern]

idk

reminder that 20k is nothing really

[solar wyvern]

^

[royal lantern]

like, put that into %

dont look at numbers

[spark pulsar]

well do you enchant your rings?

[solar wyvern]

20k of 2.6m is not really

A lot

[royal lantern]

people see stuff like 8k/15k and think its big

when in reality thats often not even 1% difference

[royal lantern]

i dont belive in magic

[solar wyvern]

A ring enchant provides more than taking SD over TTK

[spark pulsar]

does it really

[solar wyvern]

Sim your character without enchants

Also dungeons are variable, boss damage matters a lot

20k overall is w.e in comparison to killing the boss at 3:20 and not 3:26

Where you may be out of cds for one more mech or w.e

Its super duper situational the question you're asking opinions on

[royal lantern]

what we are trying to say: it doesnt really matter

assa has 500 different "m+ builds" and they all do roughly the same in the end

you shift dmg around a bit

[spark pulsar]

well thank you for the opinion, it's easy to be friendly isn't it?

[solar wyvern]

I wasn't being unfriendly :p

[spark pulsar]

there it is

[solar wyvern]

!

A good way to evaluate your question is to do a 3-4min patchwork sim of ttk and sd and see if that boss damage difference matters to you

In comparison to the overall gain

And to push it further, try it again with forced induction instead of subterfuge

It'll be very minimal difference

[spark pulsar]

thanks!

[river nebula]

I always take TTK, the single target and prio damage outweighs the pad for me. Lower keys I play Outlaw or Sub for a change so don’t take SD at all. 🙂

[silk sundial]

Hey so I got my first mythic ovinax kill last night. I thought I did good dmg with 2.3m dps overall and the most overall dmg on boss, but my parse is like a 30 lol. Is the trick to a good parse on ovinax padding on adds and lining up cd's with egg breaks better?

[fringe sierra]

adds roguesnare hard to parse in now and days

[spice surge]

Padding also nets you more boss damage through singular

[coral ibex]

yes but also ovinax doesn't count for asp so it doesnt matter much

[silk sundial]

I'm just glad we got the kill, I wasn't too worried about the parse just sucks seeing green lol

[coral ibex]

if you want to feel better just filter for boss damage

[arctic socket]

That doesn’t math up

[spice spire]

Mf needs to touch grass

[slate crown]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1292477218462634115/vlc_2024-10-06_08-22-07.gif

[zinc vessel]

guys, how do we play for ovinax MM ? we go all ston ovinax and just cleave with caustic splater and crimson tempete or do we switch on add ?

[coral ibex]

i didn't swap off ovinax for my kill

i mouseover ruptured a worm a few times

otherwise just sending into the boss

what the FUCK

i need to post vault NOW

[shy creek]

Not up for another hour

Woke up to see its a two hour maintenance

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/modern-family-spray-squirt-annoyed-irritated-gif-4445288

[spice spire]

Get check

Gem even

[slate crown]

empty

[silk sundial]

Yeah for our kill the only time I swapped off was when I was assigned worm kick really. Otherwise it was straight boss

[slate crown]

Market collapsed

I'm not selling shit rn

[spice spire]

Damn

What do you even do then LE

[slate crown]

Gather

Actually a vibe

Opportunity to make node loot WA, gph gathered WA

fun stuff

level an alt, actually play this god damn game

[spice spire]

You’re special bud and I appreciate you so much

I’ve 5 Alts leveled

[slate crown]

lmao

I have 2 80s, and one of them is only 80 because it's my gatherer

maybe I'll get a third one day

[spice spire]

I believe

[slate crown]

Though my guild was kind enough to bring my gatherer to the family/friend alt heroic run

[spice spire]

It also gets way easier to level through

[slate crown]

it's got like

450 greens

but also a 526 weapon and full hero track tier pieces

My weekly excitement is still weekly knowledge points

not vault

[spice spire]

[tranquil cobalt]

do we have early speculation on if we will be using the new siren island ring

[spice spire]

As of now no

It’s 2-4% worse than a 626 per whispyr last night (I’m parroting)

[fallow canopy]

can't wait for a repeat of DF ring and that shit getting buffed 🙂

[spice spire]

Cease

[fallow canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/closed-sign-closed-due-to-personal-circumstances-not-open-closed-shut-gif-8508575807664254233

[spice spire]

If I have to farm this shit on main I’m gonna be pissed

[fallow canopy]

I learnt my lesson last xpac, ignored it for weeks and then it got buffed and got late to the party

[spice spire]

Buddy I just want to play poe

[pale socket]

What class are you enjoying the most so far

[spice spire]

Haven’t had a ton of time to play (and I didn’t play poe 1 at all, so learning across the board)
Of the two, witch so far

Merc is cool but weird

Not a huge fan

[fallow canopy]

I started with a sorc this weekend and got my shit shoved in by a zombie boss, great experience so far

[spice spire]

Generally I like melee across all - so I think I’m going to try monk before I just go in on witch

[pale socket]

Witch and sorc both look super dope

Went merc and monk, and liking monk the most so far, very rogue like ofc

[spice spire]

Witch is a lot of fun and seems to have a few ways to build it.
I’m really excited for shadow to be added

[pale socket]

Early shadowstep with some palm strikes, yee

[slate crown]

IS it possible to play poe without looking at any guides and just making it work?

[pale socket]

Absolutely

[fallow canopy]

if ingame chat is any indication apparently monk is also kinda op

[shy creek]

I heard that it only gets released at full access though

[spice spire]

That’s what I’m trying so far.
But I cheated and looked up a guild loosely so I didn’t brick konk

[spice spire]

Even so that’s fine

Build even

[shy creek]

I wanna play it now but ive never played before

[spice spire]

Played too much WoW smh

[fallow canopy]

don't know about poe2 with in poe1 you could technically get into the early-mid tier endgame just winging it if smart enough

[burnt whale]

Greetings fellow rogues. I am a returning rogue enthusist from a long time away. I have just returned and having problems with basic macro stuff. I have a macro that does something as simple as:
/cast Shiv
/cast Mutilate

This isn't working as I expect and thought this kind of logic worked some time ago. Does this not work anymore or what am I doing wrong?

[spice spire]

That’s what I’m doing

I’m just playing it when people aren’t around for keys

[pale socket]

Can't stack two GCD moves like that (it works with moves off the global cooldown)

[shy creek]

Yeah but I feel weird knowing that the class I' wanna play isn't available yet

[spice spire]

There’s some previous knowledge application

But this also helps me to like

Understand the game and mechanics

Because beta season who gives a fuck, y’know

Just learn and enjoy

[pale socket]

Hell yeah, slap some zombies early, optimize later

[burnt whale]

Is that no more or is there a different way to code that macro?

[pale socket]

I'm extremely unfamiliar with cast sequence macros but they're your best bet if you're determined. My advice would be to bind them separately - rogue shines in situational and contextual application

[burnt whale]

I think you are correct about just learning it via non-macro routes. I tried castsequence for finishers and it didn't work well either.

[pale socket]

Also slightly edited that message IntX, sry, wrong phrasing on my part

[shy creek]

I install after finals week

First gotta get through hell LOL

[burnt whale]

Thank you for your time and efforts helping me understand the issue

[soft surge]

iv been looking to macros too

sometimes the wowdefault mouse over option for spells like shadowstep or kick doesnt work

[brazen sluice]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/T9cPRAhjxn6wgfp4?fight=1&type=damage-done

could some1 take a look

idk if my rotation is right

im dagger

[soft surge]

go forced induction

[gentle rover]

You are running deathstalker but aren't ambusing out of stealth in the opener? Am I reading that right?

[soft surge]

vers mast heavy ring

not gunna go into the rotation but seems normal with ur gear and talents

only 8.6k crit brother cmon

[pale socket]

Can't create a thread 🤷 first couple things I see though:

• you aren't opening from stealth w/ ambush, so you're relying on an RNG proc to start applying your Deathstalker's Mark. Looks like you got it applied 7 seconds in, though... maybe from trash right before the fight started??
• you didn't envenom before sending Deathmark
• your second shiv in the first KB was a bit late, missing out on some easy dmg and misaligning CDs later down the fight. The second KB didn't get the second shiv at all, for example and you applied it after it dropped off, as far as I can tell

[spice spire]

I got it

Dagger log review

[brazen sluice]

problem is my st and aoe sims says vers mastrey is better

[coral ibex]

stats dont matter

follow the sim

[soft surge]

iv seen haste > crit mast in st but never vers

[soft surge]

i thought u might have been a sub main

but if ur assa def recraft that ring to crit mast

[warm vortex]

What if it doesn't sim higher tho :P

[deft vault]

If sims say vers mastery is higher then go vers mastery

[soft surge]

idk never seen a vers > rest sim lol

vers is a defense stat for assa i thought

[deft vault]

its not

[soft surge]

at 630 it def isnt better than the other stats

[deft vault]

it can be

[soft surge]

it what situation

[slow echo]

I know I'm going to get a skardyn's grace, as the prophecy foretold

[deft vault]

If you have lets say 15k haste 15k mast 15k crit and 0 vers

then youll want vers

stats are fluid

[soft surge]

only upgrades i can get now are maybe a myth crital or avoidance cloak

[soft surge]

that would be crazy rare lol

tier has vers on it

[brazen sluice]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/q4XNrAeh2aT4xkfqW9rdJA

Dslice sim

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mvHqnw5pgGbruNkrwq2Mnm

5t 5mins

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hPbMBpwBu2xqnCtb1cJYf9

5t 1min

even for st

[royal lantern]

well

if vers is low, it can happen

[soft surge]

@brazen sluice vers isnt low tho

[royal lantern]

had sims tell me to enchant+socket vers sometimes cus of that

[soft surge]

he also has the neck

[soft surge]

idk brother 4am here waiting for vault

[brazen sluice]

yeh but whenever i sim recrafts it shows crit/mastrey is like 0.1% than vers mastrey in all situations , ST , AoE , Dslice all

[brazen sluice]

xD

[soft surge]

maybe the double woven dawnthread is doing something

[brazen sluice]

idk

[soft surge]

most rogues use ascendancy on wep with the nerubiant embel buff

[brazen sluice]

even with crit emblish im at like 9k crit or like 8.5k

[soft surge]

if u have the gold id just recraft everything with nerubian embels and go from there

[pale socket]

idk i use double woven and dont ever have vers suggested ^_^;;;

[soft surge]

if i were u

[coral ibex]

let me iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin