assassination

[brazen sluice]

oh kk ty

[clever sapphire]

!stats

[spice surge]

It doesnt matter

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[prisma scaffold]

Noted. One more thing, i am currently having issues with boss damage in dungeons where i will peak at like 1.4-1.6 opener and drop to like 700 after. Is that a normal thing for assa? I try to have full uptime on the bleed and poisions as well. I dont quite know rogue yet since i started recently only.

[clever sapphire]

sounds like bosses die around 2 min mark where you CDs are coming up, but ye assa sucks in ST in keys

[prisma scaffold]

Thank you for your answer. My friends kept saying assa rogue st was super strong so i wanted to know if i was doing very wrong

[versed gulch]

Assassination gives up a lot of ST damage to play it's AOE spec. Unfortunate, but that's the way things are.

[warm vortex]

Anyone know fastest dungeon

[warm vortex]

Raid it is good

[clever sapphire]

for weekly? i always go with mists

[warm vortex]

Need to do my weekly 8 chores

[clever sapphire]

19-20 min a key

[warm vortex]

I’ve been off wow this week

So I’ve only done 2 on my main this week so far haha

[clever sapphire]

id say most people prefer mists for their weekly keys

[warm vortex]

Fair

Only item that isn’t crafted or myth is my neck

[versed gulch]

Overall it's good. Just don't expect to win every single pull. Sub might be a better bet if you still want burst but also want some consistency in ST and AOE.

[warm vortex]

Have crafted belt, dagger and wrists
2 are my embellishments

[clever sapphire]

im missing shoulders/cloak/boots/skardyns

but i cant be bothered doing 4 more keys

[prisma scaffold]

I am a total noob so what would be a strong point of assa rogue then? Is it for aoe packs with prio dmg?

[versed gulch]

Massive priority damage with good splash.

[warm vortex]

Me too

[clever sapphire]

consistent aoe, good prio dmg, iron wire

[warm vortex]

I just want to play project zomboid

[clever sapphire]

do it

you got your 1 key done

[spice surge]

Calling the prio damage good is underselling it tbf. The prio is way better than any other spec in the game

[versed gulch]

It's so good I feel like it's easy to waste. Particularly in lower keys where targets won't live long enough to get full Kingsbane and Deathmark value. But that problem tends to disappear the higher the key is.

[winged sun]

[versed gulch]

Iron Wire smooths out a lot of dangerous pulls as an added bonus. Still feel that somehow gets missed when looking at the damage profile because it doesn't show up on the meters

[winged sun]

ironwire not showing up on meters yes yes

[versed gulch]

Particularly when groups are holding interrupts for the big named cast that could just be dispelled when it goes off but then letting 3 mobs blast a basic Earth Bolt at the same target and wonder why someone keeps getting one shot.

[warm vortex]

What if I don’t get an upgrade thoughhhh

[clever sapphire]

you got what, 2-3 more months to get it?

[snow quest]

How do you guys approach a pull without a large hp mob? If you have deathmark for example? Delay to next pull and send only kb?

[clever sapphire]

i only know about like 2 pulls in all the dungeons where thats the case, and there i usually dont have DM because i sent it before

so dunno, which pull are you referring to?

[snow quest]

Yeah most pulls do have a big HP mob indeed

But there's a few without, some in mists for example if unlucky

[clever sapphire]

in mists? O.o

if you mean the charger guys in the maze, i consider those high enough hp in my 10-12s

[snow quest]

As long as no one else sends cds it can work, but they tend to die a bit too fast with both dm and kb imo

[clever sapphire]

they do, but its still better to just send, then to hold for 2-3 more minutes

sending is usually gonna be faster than holding for the perfect mob

[snow quest]

Maybe just have a faster setup instead

[clever sapphire]

i just skip envenom

[snow quest]

I almost always skip envenom in aoe

[clever sapphire]

what key lvl are you doing tho?

[snow quest]

Around 12

[clever sapphire]

ah just send it there without envenom in that case

[snow quest]

Maybe I can skip pre CT as well

[clever sapphire]

only moment where the mobs could die "too" fast is if a spymasters user sends spymaster or if an enha finds his buttons

well as long as you send your cooldowns instead of holding onto them its gonna be good

only time i hold is if next pull is a bl boss or like mists first boss

[snow quest]

I do send but looked at some logs yesterday and saw that a few times the mob died before kb was done

[clever sapphire]

or like nw 3rd boss

i always hold there

[humble verge]

use CD off cooldown

as long as boss aint next

[clever sapphire]

aye, thats gonna be the case probably till like 14-15s

[snow quest]

Guess it doesn't matter much

[clever sapphire]

if you have competent dps in the group shit wont live your cooldowns in 12s

[humble verge]

is there really any mobpack without a mob that has high enough hp?

[snow quest]

But I was thinking that if I skip dm i get more aoe value out of the kb maybe?

[clever sapphire]

afaik, stonevault 2nd pull to the left, where you only have like 20 "small" mobs

and the pull after that is kinda the same

[snow quest]

Most packs do have a big guy this season luckily for us

[humble verge]

theres like some 90m hp ones

over the 70m

well depends on what level youre playing

but i usually DM and KB one of those

[clever sapphire]

ah really? well i send dm there on the robot dude jsut before so i dont have dm there anyways

[clever sapphire]

dm is more kb dmg and more kb dmg is more aoe dmg also

[humble verge]

yeah i should have KB atleast

it really depends how skarmorak goes

in terms of CDs

[snow quest]

True better to skip shiv if anything

[clever sapphire]

well ye kb i do just send if i only have that

[clever sapphire]

shiv is 0 aoe dmg

[snow quest]

Negative aoe if target dies early I guess

[humble verge]

i thought shiv interacts with CS

[glacial stump]

Shiv good

[clever sapphire]

spatter dmg is done before shiv dmg

shiv dmg is pure st

[humble verge]

aight

[clever sapphire]

aaaaight and where do you play that talent

[snow quest]

It's like blade flurry I assume

[spice surge]

yep

[clever sapphire]

dont think i have seen AP played anywhere besides ST this season

[snow quest]

But if I skip shiv I need a button for tea

[clever sapphire]

ah also back to this, you would only do this if you really want to kill that one mob i guess

because CT is gonna be more aoe

like pressing it vs not pressing

[clever sapphire]

or just let it autoproc

[snow quest]

Id still press ct, just within cds instead of before

[snow quest]

It won't in aoe surely

[clever sapphire]

well ye thats a challenge

[snow quest]

Unless I skip ruptures too

[clever sapphire]

you can also just press your shiv insta after a global

since tea is off gcd

its gonna get used but shiv wont

surely outlaw fingers can do that

[snow quest]

Right that'll work

Ye no problems there

I'm probably over thinking this though

Maybe a better solution is to track what target others have and pick one that no one else is focusing

[coral ibex]

hmmm do i care enough to do another 2 weekly keys tonight

[clever sapphire]

eh pugs tend to randomly switch targets

[coral ibex]

i can only upgrade neck and boots at this point from hero track

[clever sapphire]

so i wouldnt bother with that

[clever sapphire]

i have 4 upgrades and i wont be doing 4 more keys

i have 2 more months for the upgrades

couldnt care less

[glacial stump]

Seasons feels snooze now

POE time

[clever sapphire]

agree, though i suck at poe

[warm vortex]

Season is snooze

I mean ill do the new zone stuff when it comes out

[clever sapphire]

ill get the ring and log off

dont see any other reason to play the zone

i legit never played any tww zone

i dont have the slightest idea about the zones

[coral ibex]

yea it’s tough to stay motivated to do chores when i’m nearly maxed and more gear won’t do much to accelerate the rest of my raid prog

and i cba to push io

[clever sapphire]

when my gear is vault dependant i lose the interest in keys

dont have a group for keys so thats probably issue number 1

[subtle tundra]

Wooooow like every wow season after youve played it for 2 months

[warm vortex]

Hush mister varas !!!! >:(

[subtle tundra]

I will bark

[slate crown]

[spice spire]

Dog?

[nova python]

hey, do we play sanguine blades or better sudden demise? what i know for now (i think) that we can change between sudden demise/twist the knife or iron wire. but i don’t know if sanguine blades is good (as heavy aoe key) or its better to play 1 of the other 3 talents?

[clever sapphire]

sanguine is more aoe, sudden is more ST, twist the kinfe is also ST

sometimes i just dont take sudden or sanguine and just take twist the knife and iron wire

[prisma scaffold]

what would you recommend for a dungeon like nw if i take iron wire? Do i drop sanguine or sudden

[clever sapphire]

totally preference imo

i mean i would go this way even

neither sanguine nor sudden and just go with ttk

but this is just my small brain thinking that i need ST for the last 2 bosses so i want as much as i can

maybe @subtle tundra has a more logical answer

[past bobcat]

You already do ridiculous aoe

And garbage st

Better to have ok st and great aoe

[subtle tundra]

Woof

[nova python]

so all preference but tbh sanguine is the least impactful? especially i keys 12-13?

[clever sapphire]

you could say so

[nova python]

thanks for info

[clever sapphire]

well or you could say ttk since you cant even see that in details really

[past bobcat]

I think sb is insane in aoe right

[clever sapphire]

sb is pretty big in aoe yap, and sudden for me lost its interesting parts when i got higher and executes stopped happening

[nova python]

but when trash dies relatively fast already there is no need for sb imo

[subtle tundra]

Not really how it works

For timer

Sure if your argument is that timer is irrelevant and you care about finishing, sure more st is better

In nw

[nova python]

yeah mostly that the case, since i’m fresh started rogue like 2 weeks ago and trying to get back on where i was with my main tank so into 14s (12-13s are just to get past since nobody won’t invite me even for 12 with all 11++)

but st is where i struggle the most, because i need to learn to not spawn buttons like crazy

[subtle tundra]

Your st will be bad regardless if you pool or not

[clever sapphire]

aye, i could have told that to you even without saying which talent is for what mostly

ST in keys just sucks

there is nothing else to it

[nova python]

so tbh it’s not even bad to stay with sb and iron wire for example?

i still need to fuck around more and pay closer attention if it somehow affects my gameplay or not and if so in which direction

but thank you all for your wisdom

[clever sapphire]

aye

iron wire is kinda mandatory for pugs, in the highest of keys with a lot of comms and whatnot maybe you could drop it for more dmg but its not gonna be worth it most of the time

and the biggest thing you might notice is if you vanish for kb in ST

with master assassin

[nova python]

yeah i like it, just need to control myself and don’t go ahead of tank to silence mobs haha

[nova python]

yeah i need to make it a habit but mostly with deathmark better i believe right?

[clever sapphire]

only with dm

also if you have subterfuge you can vanish at 9/12 seconds already so you get even more master assa value

so in general vanishing for that in ST is probably gonna be the biggest thing you can notice out of the talents, in my opinion atleast

[stark scroll]

I never take it

just use kick button

I downloaded this sweet wa that says whenever people took avoidable damager or didnt kick something targeting them with kick up

[clever sapphire]

ye i will, kick the rogue from the group

[stark scroll]

me joining azralon group as they yell at me in spanish

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-tobey-maguire-gif-23512007

[clever sapphire]

also i put everyone with that WA on a blocklist in my keys xD

[stark scroll]

I was mostly joking, but I saw someone in a 7 NW i was tanking on my DH with this

I nearly kicked him

[fresh kelp]

I don’t think I’ve ever done a key where the person with EH didn’t end in the spot for most damage taken

[stark scroll]

"SKOLLFIRE-BLEEDINGHOLLOW TOOK 4 MILLION DAMAGE FROM NECROTIC BREATH"

[nova python]

so right before shiv is good?

[arctic socket]

Anyone guild recruiting

Lmao

[spice spire]

Guild die?

[ebon notch]

Guild go boom

[spice spire]

Do you need the discord link?

[spice spire]

Advance POV

[ebon notch]

Wth no

Advance stronk

[spice spire]

They need a better dh fr

[ebon notch]

@trail locust you gonna take that?

[spice spire]

Kreem is my goat WW wdym

[trail locust]

not personal not offended

also im a ww player now

with a side of dh

[clever sapphire]

yep its always like that xD

[trail locust]

thats my edgy and dark side

[vital ermine]

hi everyone. would like some advice on improving my single target rotation/damage in M+. I have a group of friends trying to push 12s to eventually 13s. We got great AOE damage but i noticed my single target is dragging them down in boss fights. I have been experimenting with Sudden demise, sanguine, twist the knife, MA, double vanish to 1 vanish, lethality

[ebon notch]

Wth you were main tank on DH

[clever sapphire]

shiv is at 7 seconds, if you play 2 points in subterfuge you would vanish at 12 seconds of kb left

so 2 seconds after you press kb

[trail locust]

dont know about that

maybe was in a dream

[vital ermine]

with TTK, i do more damage with single target but my dps in single target GM 12 for instance (1st boss), i was doing only 750k dps at the end of the fight.

[ebon notch]

Tankiest tanker man who ever tanked strike said

[stark scroll]

oh

Send a log please

we can review

thats very low

[trail locust]

yeah but strike is copester mccopenhagen

[arctic socket]

Egg boi reclear killed it

[stark scroll]

I dont even play outlaw I should probably change my thing so people dont think I am outlaw

[vital ermine]

ty one moment

[stark scroll]

I just like yellow

[spice spire]

Rough

[vital ermine]

oh shoot. i didn't have logs up... darn it. I'll do it next time.

ugh

[stark scroll]

check my fit

[clever sapphire]

did by any chance the fight end just before 2nd cooldowns and you guys didnt even bl the boss?

[stark scroll]

Dont think that wouldve mattered blood lust or not 700k seems low

[ebon notch]

i thought he was herman the german

[stark scroll]

let me check a siege log quick

[vital ermine]

we BL the boss right away. I am not sure what you mean by fight end just before 2nd CDs. do you mean before my 2nd burst window with death's mark and KB?

[clever sapphire]

well in a 12 with good gear it should be like around 900k-1M i guess?

[stark scroll]

yes

[clever sapphire]

2nd cd-s for me is 2nd dm

[stark scroll]

if he is doing a 12 he should be around 9-1

[vital ermine]

hm i believe it was close

[clever sapphire]

i dont really count raw kb as cd-s

[stark scroll]

i mean assassination is never going to top the single target chart

but we shouldnt be at 700

[sharp viper]

yeah but 750k is really low

[stark scroll]

correct

[clever sapphire]

🧢 i always top it against 610 people

[clever sapphire]

so it was even with bl, whats your ilvl?

[vital ermine]

regretfully i am high ilvl. 633

[clever sapphire]

hmm

[vital ermine]

so i am definitely doing something wrong

would like help

perhaps it's my rotation

[clever sapphire]

well then its probably rotational issues i would say

hard to say without any log tho

[vital ermine]

i noticed that i feel very energy starved. in those situations i try to keep spamming mutilate or keeping up blood dots for VWs to get back the energy

[stark scroll]

I dont have a 12 logged

[vital ermine]

should i be pooling at 150 energy?

[stark scroll]

but a ten I did 1.1

I think you get two deathmarks in a 12 maybe?

usually get to around 12% by second death mark

I dont pop it usually

Unless we are above 20% which hasnt came up

[vital ermine]

could you by chance send me your logs for single target fight in M+ so i can study the rotation

?

[stark scroll]

sure

[vital ermine]

i would like to learn

ty

[stark scroll]

I am going to send you a ten I ran for vaults because I didnt start logging till last night

also I am not by any means the god of assassination

it may be of more merit to track down whispyrs logs

but I will send you mine

[vital ermine]

where can i find whispyrs' logs?

[clever sapphire]

2:15 duration so exactly before cooldowns, no bl and 624 ilvl

[stark scroll]

a 12?

[clever sapphire]

ah wait its with flensing knives stil

[clever sapphire]

11

i only did it once on 12 and it wasnt logged...

[clever sapphire]

whispyr doesnt really do keys so im not sure that thats gonna help

do you have any key that you did lately that got logged?

[stark scroll]

let me share

[vital ermine]

let me check

[cobalt sphinx]

Your damage is just gonna be bad on single target

Like really fucking bad

[clever sapphire]

well ye, but 700k ST in a 12 with bl and 633

dunno about that chief

[cobalt sphinx]

It is all about learning to live with it

[stark scroll]

I will send you a a sikran log

mythic

thats pure single

[cobalt sphinx]

Sikran you have different talents

[stark scroll]

yeah suppose

[clever sapphire]

the rotation is still the same pretty much

just one shiv less

[vital ermine]

hm sorry this is a noob question

how do i find my most recent logs for M+ on warcraft logs?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/87806322?zone=39

[winged sun]

guys

[vital ermine]

when i try to click it, it just says it is associated with a leaderboard

[winged sun]

is there a range checker for focus shadowstep

if anyone knows

"in range" out of range etc

?

[clever sapphire]

is this the 12 grim by any chance?

[vital ermine]

oh yes it was.

[stark scroll]

I will log a couple 12's tonight

Now that I have shit setup

[vital ermine]

how did you find that

[clever sapphire]

you open grim batol, click on date so it sorts by date and luckily someone else logged i guess

[stark scroll]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/WB2RpX67JGjvb8Nf#fight=11&type=summary

[fallow canopy]

in short, the one that say "log" are the ones with a log associated, that means someone in your key was logging if not there aren't logs they are just registered from the leaderboard

[vital ermine]

when i click it, it says "this fight comes from a leaderboard and has no log associated with it

[stark scroll]

lool

[clever sapphire]

you have 2 12s

one logged and one not

[vital ermine]

oh i see

ty

okay i see the one that is logged

[clever sapphire]

did you guys pull mobs into the boss?

[vital ermine]

from that attempt i don't recall. i believe we might have

or we have killed it quickly and i didn't have a chance to stealth

[clever sapphire]

because this opener is looking a bit confused

you got stealth because you could spam garrote, but i dont see the reason to press garrote 3 times, CT in st, then another ambush into cooldowns without envenom buff

[fallow canopy]

2nd KB was around 40sec late

2nd DM was without KB

[vital ermine]

i think what i did was, i garrote twice so i would have enough for full tempest

right

[stark scroll]

tempest isnt pressed in single target

[vital ermine]

ah

[stark scroll]

and double garroted isnt in st

thats why we asked if you pulled mobs

with it

[vital ermine]

ah i see

[fallow canopy]

no need to gar that much at the start if you are just gonna refresh the emp one with the vanish in the opener some seconds later

[vital ermine]

then no

i see thank you

[clever sapphire]

so ye, you dont press tempest in ST. But the biggest mistake is what boli said, you delayed 2nd kb by 40 seconds, then pressed a raw dm because you didnt have kb up

[vital ermine]

so i should be just applying my garrote and rupture then immediately go DM + KB?

[vital ermine]

ah understood. TY both

[clever sapphire]

on bosses you do the same as in raid, apply bleeds, apply envenom, go into the cooldowns

also you dont have these 2 talents which are big for ST i would say

vanishing is kinda meh for ST if you arent running master assa

[vital ermine]

yes i believe i was experimenting a different talent for that run

i did feel much weaker in that one

[cobalt sphinx]

Yeah you want to hang onto at least 1 vanish for the trash after umbriss anyway

[vital ermine]

i would love a reference for logs on single target fights for M+, GB. May I ask your character/server name on logs so i can look up yours?

so I can study them?

[cobalt sphinx]

I have a couple 12s and 13s timed but i still only do 950k single target

Breadgetter on illidan

[vital ermine]

it's better than mine

i need to improve

[stark scroll]

seems overall you have an issue with using your cds

[vital ermine]

so i'll take all the help i can get

[stark scroll]

This is my utilization for the same key

this is yours

[vital ermine]

oh interesting. thank you for this

[stark scroll]

Obviously situations very but if youre taking supe talents

let me confirm your are

oh youre not

hm

[heavy jolt]

where do you get this info?

[still stone]

wait 950K ST seems about right depending on lust, and raid buffs no?

[stark scroll]

its fine

he said he was doing 700k

[still stone]

oh i thought he said 950

[stark scroll]

but he could do bette overall

we call could I mean

just needs to be less afraid to use cds

I have an enhance I play who had this same issue

always holding things for the right moment

ends up missing full usages

in downtimes

[vital ermine]

so i tend to hold my DM because sometimes i feel the adds are dying so fast

[sage cargo]

How do I prevent myself from hating myself on ST in m+ guys

It's horribel

[vital ermine]

and i would just be wasting it if i popped it then when the other 2 are popping off

[fallow canopy]

do you usually do keys with the same people?

or pug?

[vital ermine]

should i just be more liberal with it

[stark scroll]

heres the thing

[vital ermine]

so yesterday was our first time doing a full committed group

[stark scroll]

youre not always going to get a full death mark duration

[vital ermine]

and we're going to keep trying

[stark scroll]

later on you will

but you cant always try to maximize it

in your brain you should code

If i deathmark this prio tareget

and it dies

thats aw in

even if death mark doesnt get full dr

[still stone]

here is a perfect example... if you press CDs on a guardian in mists and it dies before ur DM expires.. you did your job well

[stark scroll]

you killed the prio target

[still stone]

lol yea

[vital ermine]

i see

[stark scroll]

Like dont use it on a dude whos flippen 20%

you know

[vital ermine]

right

[stark scroll]

but set your bleeds

prep your kb

[fallow canopy]

70% of your cds on one thing even if it dies its better than 0% and holding for an eternity

[cobalt sphinx]

There are a lot of good targets in GB too

Molten giants and lavabenders, sometimes you have to hit enforcers

[stark scroll]

missing two gcds is crazy

someone ban me

[still stone]

just think of each pack as a minigame of which target has the highest HP how do i kill that guy quickly. the answer is never holding CDs unless that pack has no prio mob or the pack after has a mob with even more HP than the current one ur fighting. u may do less overall than a ret but u provided alot to the group because a ret cannot nuke a rock smasher in SV

[stark scroll]

Literally what ever unit you deathmark

is going to evaporate

[still stone]

if u play another spec than ur rogue.. and u played like ret,bm,unholy for example

u would realize

that u not being there

means the big mob lives 4x longer lol. everything will be dead and that guy will just be running around at 50% hp

its so annoying

[vital ermine]

this is good tip. thank you Mike

[stark scroll]

I noticed this on my fire mage

[vital ermine]

what did i miss sorry?

[stark scroll]

Im like why is this mob alive

[stark scroll]

i was trolling myself

the only thing that changed was I wasnt on my rogue

[still stone]

yeah. i was playing that exact dps comp and i was tanking and people were like oh my god we are doing 4m dps but i said the rock smasher is still not even close to dead. my rogue would have killed this already and we would be on to the next pull

[stark scroll]

Yeah

It also helps when you play with the same people

then you can have one or two people save cds for pulls as needed

[karmic sierra]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[stark scroll]

Like I my ele saves cds for third pull of gb

or uses first pull

what differences do we see

thats the fun part of M+

[icy osprey]

Weird question, i seem to automatically consume Thistle tea when i do my rotation.

[clever sapphire]

aye

it gets consumed when you are below 30 energy

[icy osprey]

ohh

thats cool, thanks. Guess i can remove it from my action bar

[clever sapphire]

you can macro it to shiv

and remove it from your bars

yap

!shiv

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[icy osprey]

got it, ty

[rare horizon]

i didn`t see upper but im running M+ with MA , on AoE its better still using vanish for buff or redot ads?

[snow kindle]

either whatever you need

[grizzled ember]

Doing Ky'veza for the first time tonight, does cheat death proc and keep you alive or should I go elusiveness?

[sonic schooner]

elu elu elu elu

cheatdeath isnt a thing there at all

gonna die through it cuz the exec

[grizzled ember]

figured, but wanted to ask 🙂

thank you

[manic coral]

at what point do you go lining over ascension

in progress

[covert creek]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[royal lantern]

what has that to do with prog

[karmic crystal]

as soon as you want to spend the crests really

[royal lantern]

ascension tends to be very very slightly better in ST, 2x lining very very slighty better in aoe

but its tww embelishments

they dont do shit

[sonic zinc]

whats teh damage profile in keys supposed to look like

envenom on top?

[desert crest]

BIG

no spatter

or wait might depend on the key

[wet plover]

Spatter

[subtle tundra]

no it doesnt. spatter is top

[wet plover]

Always

[sonic zinc]

guess i suck

[subtle tundra]

yep

[desert crest]

lol

[sonic zinc]

or aoe just dies too fast

in these keys

[desert crest]

Yeah i think that is very possible

[arctic socket]

Pussy queen is a wild name

[sonic zinc]

lol

[desert crest]

aslong as u are keeping 100% uptime on spatter then there is not anything else u can do

[sonic zinc]

cant check spatter uptime in details huh

[desert crest]

Yes u can

just click on ur bar

[sonic zinc]

oh nvm i see it

hehe

[desert crest]

Yeah that is not good

it needs to be about the same as ur deadly and amp poison uptime

[cobalt sphinx]

spatter will be low if you were on single target bosses the whole time or pulled really small

[crystal glen]

Or if its like an 8 where everything is exploded before you get your bleeds out xD

[cloud marsh]

Hey! (New to retail since TWW, only doing M+), I noticed in the Consumables section of the wowhead guide that there are 2 different crit enchants for rings. Can (and should I) buy 2x the Cursed Haste enchant since it gives more crit?

[gleaming spire]

crused takes away from the second stat it shows

[clever sapphire]

simming would be the obvious solution

[cloud marsh]

Interesting, so its a sim angle I suppose? Not even sure how to look at enchants with the sims

[gleaming spire]

top gear and near the bottom

[stark scroll]

I would sim to see what is best. for me neither of these were best

I found double radiant master to give the strongest benefit

[median scroll]

hey guys, i have crafted wrists with dawnthread embellishment is it best to craft dagger with another dawnthread or ascension?

[solar wyvern]

2x dawnthread or ascen+patch

Tho iirc you can't put dawnthread on a dagger

[median scroll]

ahh ok thank you

[prisma scaffold]

hi all is transmitter better than skardyn grace for assa rogue?

[lavish geyser]

for a good ovinax run, how much dps should I approx have?

[normal pulsar]

hi, am using this WA, can someone tell me what is this

[lunar sonnet]

Poison reminder

[lavish geyser]

do the top kills of ovinax use tea shiv macro?

like does it matter at all? if I do it or not?

[clever sapphire]

minmaxing tea is a 0.2% gain, having the macro or letting it auto pop or playing it perfectly is pretty much no difference

ovinax is 100% about padding

if you are not allowed to pad you wont be doing a 100%

by not allowed i mean if you have others padding

[desert crest]

But that is in ST tho right, on ovi if u want to pad more u might want to use tea on the adds so might be more than 0.2%

[clever sapphire]

dunno, but even if it is its probably like 1% at max

[desert crest]

Yeah probably

[clever sapphire]

tea management wont be the thing that changes your log

[lucid basalt]

Yo bois quick question

what to drop here to get iron wire

[desert crest]

twist the knife

[clever sapphire]

sanguine blades for less aoe or twist the knife for less st

[glacial lantern]

Sin rogue and sub are the 2 specs that i currently just suck at.

They have some very weird priorities and interactions especially in aoe

[clever sapphire]

im in preference of dropping blades because i couldnt care less about aoe that i already do enough of

[desert crest]

Most ethical rogue right here

[clever sapphire]

hell nah, i drop iron wire more often than not

[glacial lantern]

Im much more comfortable with way higher apm than weird and unintuitive priorities

[clever sapphire]

and what would those priorities be?

[glacial lantern]

Things with deathstalker in general, using mutilate to keep up splatter etc etc...

[desert crest]

just play more, assa is easy i promise

[clever sapphire]

deathstalker is just extra dmg on your main target and finish at 7, mutilate is whatever tbh

[glacial lantern]

Is sustain aoe supposed to be bad for sin and sub rogue?

[clever sapphire]

assa in aoe is hard to get used to tho

[clever sapphire]

cant say for sub, assa i wouldnt say so

[glacial lantern]

I see, because im significantly behind in aoe compared to most other specs for sin

Sustain

Sub i think just sucks at sustain aoe

[clever sapphire]

sub is a burst spec after all

[lavish geyser]

im not pumping alot, even though im getting the rigfht setup. do you save death mark for egg pop?

[clever sapphire]

its all about doing dmg with cooldowns

[clever sapphire]

nah, i just prepare a clear the witnesses proc for egg pop

you can delay 2nd dm a bit i think if you want for the adds

[glacial lantern]

yea but those moments of burst don't seem to be enough to have good overall damage

Sin i think i just need to be better at, i can already see a significant issue with my rotation in aoe

[clever sapphire]

doing 1.8-2m overall on sub seems to work for me in my weekly keys, and i have skardyns

so not even transmitter

[spice surge]

Sub does good damage

[glacial lantern]

Like low uptime on crimson

[clever sapphire]

sin is all about spreading 5+ ruptures for max scent stacks, crimson tempest uptime and mostly spatter dmg

spatter is gonna be the biggest part of your aoe

[clever sapphire]

i still suck at deathstalker sub in keys, i just do less dmg with that than with trickster

[glacial lantern]

Yes, splatter is generally 1st place, but im lacking almost 30% uptime on tempest on sustain

[spice surge]

Well ye just play trickster anyway

[glacial lantern]

WHich is way too much

[spice surge]

Deathstalker not great

[clever sapphire]

btw what key lvl?

[glacial lantern]

Not key level, i wouldn't do a key on a spec im sure i suck at

[lavish geyser]

so you just hold it until all the mobs have been gripped

[glacial lantern]

Just dummy

[clever sapphire]

agree, deathstalker sub is fine in pure st i guess

[clever sapphire]

nah, you can use it as soon as the marks are out

because they pop insta anyways

[lavish geyser]

yeah but was thinking fo the first pop

[clever sapphire]

so you want the bigger part of kb to happen when adds are there

[lavish geyser]

I am at like 2,5 -3,2 mil through the whole fight

I dont think I will end at 3,2

[clever sapphire]

well i do, because thats the only way to get better at imo

dummies dont do shit

[glacial lantern]

Rotation practice

Then m+

Or raid

[clever sapphire]

well it also matters on how you guys play it, because my guild just straight up didnt pop any eggs for the last minute or so

so i lost a lot of overall and got a 50 log -.-

[glacial lantern]

i don't like entering keys on specs im sure im not good at

[clever sapphire]

eh well atleast you are not inting keys i guess, im just a cocky guy thats confident in always performing better than people in the low keys

but if you have the ST rota down thats all that counts tbh

[glacial lantern]

I probably would perform good enough, but i just don't really like it

[clever sapphire]

if its not fun, just dont play it imo

[normal pulsar]

I have instant and deadly applied though

[clever sapphire]

why do you have instant applied

also you can apply 4 poisons, maybe its reminding you of the other 2

[normal pulsar]

ok I guess I need to read wowhead guide couple of more times lol

[clever sapphire]

read dragon tempered blades

your capstone in the middle

your poisons that you use are deadly and amp for the dmg poisons, and numbing(or atrophic if talented) and crippling as your utility poisons

never use insta poison

[normal pulsar]

aha

gothcu

I am a bit confused about the wowhead guide

[clever sapphire]

which part

[normal pulsar]

is this my rotation/opener, or is it this one

[acoustic roost]

Rotation and opener are two different things

[normal pulsar]

just either, like what's my opener

[clever sapphire]

this part

[normal pulsar]

I am assuming the first ss(ramping and cooldown sequence) is my opener and then rotation?

[acoustic roost]

Yes the one labeled opener

[normal pulsar]

jesus christ I missed that it said opener

[clever sapphire]

also the "apply slice and dice" is wrong

it gets applied with envenom

so dont do that

just follow the pictures

[normal pulsar]

aha

[tawny geyser]

What's the macro to cast Shadowstep on a certain player? progging Queen and I believe that would help me during Wrest.

[normal pulsar]

ok one more question

how am I casting shiv twice here

I mean there's no way that's 30 secs

[late tusk]

Hello, you running vanish build on siege, or do you prefer supercharger?

[clever sapphire]

you dont have this with m+ build tho

with m+ build you only cast the 2nd shiv

aka last 7 seconds

[normal pulsar]

aha

[clever sapphire]

dont think many play supercharger, the vanish build is just comfy with 12 seconds of master assa

[cinder steppe]

anyone here played mythic silken court in blue side?

[vagrant brook]

I personally run forced induction in cot, db, mots, sob

[coral ibex]

no but blue is bedge

easy mode

[late tusk]

well literally dont really care, people were too bad even to care about build

[coral ibex]

never handle webs, you never have to get off the boss to do the other boss's mech

[late tusk]

easy deplete in this dead game

[royal lantern]

huh

[cinder steppe]

yeah but how can i manage correctly the ds mark if i start on blue? just try to get it asap on the big one (for the charge) or just wait for charge and put it with vanish?

i tried looking for kills video on blue side but every rogue is red hahaha

[coral ibex]

just save your DNs before the charge

[cinder steppe]

i just might ask my rl for a change of color

[coral ibex]

there's one blue pov on youtube

https://youtu.be/14UhTiL5W5Q

[cinder steppe]

ohh thanks

i've been looking for that but didnt find it before

[coral ibex]

np

[cinder steppe]

i have even thought about trying some sub for the progress hahaha

but i think ill stick to assa

[coral ibex]

i use mrt reminders to have text pop up when i should save my DN

for transitions/charges

[cinder steppe]

ohh thanks a nice idea didnt thought of that

[coral ibex]

[royal lantern]

i just kinda learned after some time

2 stuns->swap mark target

and in last phase leave Mark on the caster guy

[patent snow]

Is hero Skardyns + hero Wrathstone viable? Use one with DM and one with KB a minute later?

Would be upgrading from Champ ritual knife.

[drifting cloud]

ritual knife should be better

[patent snow]

Yeah that makes sense to me. I'll sim it too, I was just wondering if anyone likes using two on use. I generally avoid.

[runic hinge]

Kb without dm isn’t huge

So a passive trinket is generally just better

[crystal glen]

Can't see if anyone answered you - /cast [@name] Shadowstep
should work - you can put it in with a condition if you want the button to still work outside of raid 😛

[restive thistle]

Evening.

I've been trying to play assa this patch. Coming from outlaw, i'm a bit tired of the inconsistency the spec can have sometimes. And i've done too much sub in my life.
So assa seemed like a good idea for a change.

AND GOD AM I BAD ! I've been reading guides, watching streamers and stuff (Mostly Speed and Zerocool) and it doesn't fucking change.
So, is there like a Jedi master willing to help a Padawan? I accept to be slaughtered for a greater good.

[sacred totem]

What’s the best mythic plus build for assassin rouge right now ? And where can I find the import ?

[spice spire]

!guides

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[spice spire]

Wowhead has a decent build

Recommend it

[vast loom]

for queen we running CT or no?

i think it might be bait

[median igloo]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[west crown]

What do you feel you are struggling with

[balmy condor]

no

only boss to run CT on is ovi'nax

[woven shore]

Is assa playable?

[balmy condor]

what

[kindred cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/biden-debate-president-presidential-debate-wtf-gif-4127151492472228747

[novel star]

why wouldn’t it be

[cobalt sphinx]

Got snitched on at a mcdonalds

Assassination is banned

[fallow canopy]

only combat is not playable

[woven shore]

im just trolling fuckers

wow assa channel is dead

so quiet here wtf

[spice spire]

Blud out here tryna troll the crickets

[balmy condor]

haha so funny

[drifting cloud]

people still play this game?

[coral ibex]

monday night huh!

[runic hinge]

Can’t decide if I want this channel to go back to like ten of us or I like that people are playing the spec I love

[keen spruce]

whatever keeps Whispyr's sanity existent

[slate crown]

It's only monday....

[snow kindle]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[clear plover]

quick question, in m+, when do I use fan over mutilate? like 2 or 3 targets?

[unborn wharf]

on ansurek my first vanish is assigned to breaking roots what would the talents that dont take master assassin/improved garrote be? 2/2 Vicious venoms?

or better does that 1st vanish just kinda line up w/ root break and kingsbane?

[woeful meteor]

Vanish first, cloak second, get broken out/gnome third

[spice surge]

It lines up

[woeful meteor]

^^

if you still dont want to play imp gar go tempest

[unborn wharf]

okok

[novel star]

everyone playing poe

but also bring up smth good to talk about i guess

[trim night]

Hello o/.
So ttk feels comfortanle to play, but im not sure how to incorparate that in to AoE build. Nothing seems worth droping to take it instead

[runic hinge]

Drop sudden demise is what a lot of people are doing

[novel star]

[trim night]

hmm thhis way i get 500k more dps on dummies went from 3.5 to 4 which is weird, i totally expected that this passive 10% damage boost to all bleeds i lost, would have killed the dps

[runic hinge]

Some of the value is in the execute but you don’t get that on dummies or in sims

But idk. You do you

[woven shore]

bro

poe2 is DOG SHIT

[novel star]

it’s alright

i’m having fun

didn’t play the first one much

[woven shore]

lucky you

slowest slasher ive ever played

like wtf

i played poe for like 900h

my friend 9000

[novel star]

could be why u don’t like it

they slowed it down a lot

[woven shore]

and you cant go from SUPER SONIC to
riding a camel

it just feels really slow

and i cant handle that

also im hearing alot of critesicm

about loot

im happy ur enjoying

i wish i could enjoy this terrible boring story

like it wasnt a nightmare in poe 1 already xD

[radiant snow]

so whats our ring/gem combo looking like

[drifting cloud]

your current rings

the ring currently equals like a 626 ring

[runic hinge]

Wish you’d get me a ring Ryler

[drifting cloud]

youre already taken you tease

[rotund oak]

there are other games u know

roblox,minecraft,idk u pick one

[woven shore]

You picked the worst lol

[rotund oak]

ye its not like its non-negotiable or something,free to pick anything

wow right now its just like any other seasonal game

no one plays it

[hallow pelican]

@balmy condor have you been testing the special gems on the ptr? Are they bonkers?

[balmy condor]

Bonkers dogshit yes

It’s impressive how bad their are

[novel star]

buffs incoming for surely

[hallow pelican]

Are they better than a stat hammer or not even on that level?

[balmy condor]

The best gem combination on the maxed ring at 639 after the full 6 weeks of timegated quests

Is -0.4% worse than a 626 hero track ring

I’m making a video on it later tonight

[spice spire]

Can’t wait for the emergency buffs

[balmy condor]

But it is laughably bad

And forget it for m+

[hallow pelican]

Sweet… so unless they solve 9oclock on the felcycle, I don’t even have to log in til January

Sweet

[balmy condor]

Like the ring is so bad in m+ I don’t think it can be saved

[dapper cradle]

What a joke lmfao

AFTER timegated questing

[drifting cloud]

clearly implemented in sims wrong

[balmy condor]

It’s like nearly -2% in m+

[hallow pelican]

Happy new years fuckers. See you in ‘25

[balmy condor]

They would need to make some insane buffs to the ring to make it worth in m+

[drifting cloud]

farm the mount meta on the new island!

[balmy condor]

To the point where it’s crazy op in single target

[dapper cradle]

Honestly hilarious bro

[balmy condor]

There’s no dedicated aoe gems

[spice spire]

How about you farm dn pal

[balmy condor]

So it’s like

What

[drifting cloud]

bet

[spice spire]

[hallow pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goon-dodgeball-movie-ben-stiller-white-goodman-gif-14947929

Don’t tell me what to do you’re not my real dad!!

[spice spire]

He might be

Ryler old as fuck

[hallow pelican]

I bet I have tattoos old than him

[rotund oak]

ive played ptr a week,yeah not impressive,the dmg ones maybe?

[balmy condor]

The damage ones are worse

The best gems atm are the stat ones

And it’s not close

The damage ones are like -1.5 to -2% in st

[drifting cloud]

you said you had a thing for older men ...

[rotund oak]

yeah the stats are very smol as well

[balmy condor]

There’s a very easy fix for the ring

[rotund oak]

lol man

[balmy condor]

Add secondaries to it baseline

Like arcanocrystal

[rotund oak]

yup thats based

[snow quest]

Shouldn't stat gems be pretty easy to balance

[spice spire]

I do not have a thing for men at all

[drifting cloud]

well you see .. they either make the ring op and have to nerf it in 2months

[spice spire]

Unfort

[balmy condor]

You’d think but we’re like 8 days from patch and the ring is unplayable

So

[drifting cloud]

or it kinda stays poopoo

unless they somehow tune it to be 1% better than current rings (they wont)

[snow quest]

Very strange

[unkempt ginkgo]

in M+, is sudden demise worth giving up for sanguine blades?

[balmy condor]

It’s the same shit they did with forbidden reach

[drifting cloud]

anyways, I heard whispyr wrote you a song wheres the url

[balmy condor]

The gems were unplayable and then they emergency buffed basically everything by like 80%

Literal last minute

[spice spire]

You’re going to have to ask him king

I have it saved and it’s incredible

[balmy condor]

I’m bowling send it to him

[drifting cloud]

[spice spire]

Sent it

[winged sun]

[hollow talon]

Just drop iron wire and blame everyone else if wipe cause of unsilenced mobs doing 8% extra damage

[blazing pumice]

15% m8y

sb is more dmg in aoe

sd might be more in pissy low keys idk

[amber brook]

so just ignore ring ig

?

[coral ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

fucking cinema

love it

[charred moat]

Should just give the rings main stat aswell

[static glacier]

at wispoor

r we uzing ring

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-silly-gif-5995970431905453935

[sharp viper]

https://tenor.com/view/all-signs-point-to-yes-magic-8-ball-questioning-8-ball-a-slice-of-kiwi-asliceofkiwi-gif-7270307579661133222

[restive thistle]

Well. Just the DPS overall is low.
I can see rogues going up to 7-8M on some big pulls (First one in SV for example) and here i am barely clearing the 4M treshold.
Don't know why.
On boss, it's even worse, i legit play around 900k dps while i should be at 1.2M dps atleast imo.

I'm getting outdamaged by a lot of class that shouldn't outdamaged me in dungeon

[bronze pike]

bowl this

[quiet oar]

[balmy condor]

[quiet oar]

Can you sim Bowling?

[bronze pike]

sub 200

u lose sir

[balmy condor]

[bronze pike]

[balmy condor]

I mean technically they do when they design a new ball

physics simulations and stuff

they also have a throwbot

[quiet oar]

My guild has one to

Its called Tiramil

[balmy condor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pH6hu5eVjL4

this guy sucks

[clever sapphire]

are you doing keys in a 14-15+ range?

also your boss dmg is just gonna suck ass

so you should be outdamaged by many other specs in keys

[jaunty cedar]

I definitely agree, doing keys in the 13-14 range. I just accepted that I'm useless in st with the m+ build, I'm usually last dps on bosses.

[subtle tundra]

?!?!? how do you get such high numbers

[balmy condor]

I game

[subtle tundra]

i dont know the scoring system

[balmy condor]

so if you clear the deck on the first shot, it's an X or a strike

[subtle tundra]

ive gotten a strike

[balmy condor]

X means the next 2 shots are doubled

[subtle tundra]

WOAH????????

[balmy condor]

so X X X

is 10, 10 + 10, 10 + 10 + 10

cause the first strike doubles the next 2

[subtle tundra]

holyyyyyyy

[balmy condor]

so a perfect game is 12 strikes in a row, and the frame values in order are

10 - 20 - 30 - 30 - 30 - 30 - 30 - 30 - 30 - 60

cause the 10th frame you can get 3 strikes, and they would be 30 - 20 - 10

[subtle tundra]

my first four rounds of points were
4 - 0 - 0 - X

[subtle tundra]

i didnt understand that either

why do you get multiple rounds

[balmy condor]

if you clear the deck on the 10th you get a third throw

[subtle tundra]

woah

so strikes are op

anything but a strike is omega bad

[quiet oar]

Blizzard

[balmy condor]

spares are good

[quiet oar]

Pls nerf strikes

ong

[subtle tundra]

thats another new word

[balmy condor]

spares are the /

if you 8/ for example

[quiet oar]

spare deez nuts

[balmy condor]

you got 8 on first throw, then you cleared the deck on the second throw

spares double the next throw

[subtle tundra]

oh that yea

[balmy condor]

so 8/ - X

is 10 - 20

[subtle tundra]

thats decent

[balmy condor]

strike is next 2, spare is next 1

spares are usually the #1 thing to focus on

as a newer/worse bowler

striking repeatedly obviously difficult

but you can get like 7, 8, 9

pretty regularly

missing those is killer

[subtle tundra]

i love splitting ! ! !

[quiet oar]

Whispyr throwing out a Bowling guide

[balmy condor]

like take this game as example

you get 84

[subtle tundra]

yea that looks like something id get

[balmy condor]

just a couple extra spares and you're way higher

[subtle tundra]

problem is hitting the pins straight in the middle and having 2 opposite ones remaining...

[restive thistle]

12-14 at the moment

[balmy condor]

yeah that's why we don't aim for the middle

[subtle tundra]

skill issue...

[subtle tundra]

good lore

[balmy condor]

you want ball like this

[clever sapphire]

in 14s you might get to do big dmg in aoe, in 12s mobs still die too fast for you to actually reach the 8M+ dps numbers

[balmy condor]

slightly offcenter

[restive thistle]

Yeah but that much? Even with the inconsistency of outlaw i can do better

[restive thistle]

And yet, when i key on my sp/war, i see them going around those number

[clever sapphire]

think about it this way, you have 20 mobs in a pull, 14 of those are low hp shitters unless you are on really high keys, after 14 of them die in 2 seconds you are only hitting the last 6 mobs, and doing 8M dps on 6 mobs isnt easy unless you are a shaman

[balmy condor]

assa single target is bad, yes

[clever sapphire]

(btw i just threw out random numbers, just wanted to give you some kinda context)

[restive thistle]

True that, but i keep getting lashed out by other players telling me assa strong, u bad cause no dps.

I'll see if can't log one or two key and see if there is really something going on...

[clever sapphire]

sp no idea, warri just presses bladestorm and does instant max dps on the mobs

assa builds up with bleed spreading, going into cooldowns, and towards the end of your kb is gonna be the biggest dmg part

and guess what, 20 seconds into a pull you are happy if even half the mobs are alive

[clever sapphire]

well main mistake many do is trying to spread bleeds on EVERY mob

you just get enough for scent stacks (so 5, i do like 6-7 in case one dies) and then go into cooldowns as fast as you can

most of your dmg is gonna come from spatter

and CT

boss dmg is all about executing your cooldowns well, there isnt much else to ST dmg

also if boss dies before your dm it just sucks ass

cause you are at your lowest dmg point

[restive thistle]

are we playing bladestorm in M+? Every talents review i got it's ravager, am i doing it wrong?

[clever sapphire]

i dont play warri no idea xD

i just assumed you do

but my point was that warri starts at his max dps insta with a button press, kinda same with outlaw

they are not building up to something

[restive thistle]

Yeah true true

[west crown]

Well kill time on the pack will decide a good chunk of your damage, so your others teamates skill and key level comes into play there. As for single target, 900k to 1 mil sounds about right. You wont be doing 1.2M in a m+ build on single target

As i see was already explained

😄

[keen spruce]

What does everyone want in their vaults tomorrow?

[ionic crater]

Give transmitter

[keen spruce]

If you've been nice this week Santa Shmeeps might bless your drops

[novel star]

Ring

Joy

[clever sapphire]

gimme a cool transmog

[novel star]

will to live

[clever sapphire]

i have 4 slots as an upgrade but half the guild decided the season is over and only 12 people signed up for raid, so dont care about gear much

[novel star]

wats ur prog

[keen spruce]

IM MAKIN A LIST

[clever sapphire]

5/8

[keen spruce]

CHECKIN IT TWICE

[novel star]

kyveza guild killer ???

[clever sapphire]

last time on princess we got it to around 36% i think

[novel star]

that boss is so fun

my last guild technically died to it too i guess but like wtf

[keen spruce]

My guild just killed court and I need them to zoom through Queen so I can come in for reclear and gobble loot

[clever sapphire]

well i got told to stop running into the boss after a charge and just stand afk at a place for 10 sec

[keen spruce]

and parses

[clever sapphire]

so fun isnt what i would call it

[novel star]

but ur a rogue

you can just cloak charges

[keen spruce]

interesting strategy

[runic hinge]

Rash cloak or a regicide for transmog

[clever sapphire]

i cloak last 5 sec of intermission

[novel star]

not really needed tbh

[keen spruce]

[clever sapphire]

well i usually ran in, and at 5-4 sec i run out to a space

[novel star]

you can just feint evasion it

cloak for enrage is good but

regular intermissions naur

[clever sapphire]

but sometimes someone is there, and the people arent the best sooooo they get scared and run around like headless chickens

so i got told to just stand around outside

[novel star]

but two people on the same drop spot isn’t a problem

you just make a line

?

[clever sapphire]

ye but as i said

the people get scared

the ones with the orb

[novel star]

scared of what

[clever sapphire]

so they run around like headless chickens

[novel star]

they just stand still and u make a line

[clever sapphire]

because they see multiple lines xD

dont ask me, its not really a good guild

[keen spruce]

Vueko see

[novel star]

has no one explained to them that it’s not a problem

[clever sapphire]

im just here cause i was bored

[keen spruce]

you're acting like

these are good raiders

but MOST guilds

[midnight mist]

thats a good strat cause then you can sit away from healer and aoe healing while having the hardest hitting dot on the head for 10s

[keen spruce]

don't have good raiders

[novel star]

i mean u don’t have to be good really

[clever sapphire]

yap thats what i told to the officers

i told them if i die dont blame me

[novel star]

just someone has to tell them it’s okay to have 2 ppl form a line

as long as it’s well centered

[clever sapphire]

i even looked at logs, if i were to stand outside, sometimes i wouldnt have had a healer in range

[novel star]

and then they take hand off keyboard and win

[midnight mist]

you are mental if you dont cloak the charges tho

you dont get the debuff then

[clever sapphire]

do i have to precloak like nw first boss

or can i just cloak it any time before

[novel star]

any time

[clever sapphire]

well assuming we get 20 people together again i will try that

[novel star]

i pop cloak + sprint like right after getting marked and then go vibe

[keen spruce]

Some of the pugs I play with for 4/8 every week

are considering doing ovinax

[clever sapphire]

btw shmeeps, that duck is hella cute

[novel star]

hell nah lol

[keen spruce]

ty chatgpt made it for me

[novel star]

kyveza is puggable technically

ovinax is definitely not

[keen spruce]

nah these aren't like super high performing pugs either

[novel star]

ok then neither are puggable

[clever sapphire]

im surprised that the guild managed to kill ovinax but is giving up on kyveza

[keen spruce]

like maybe 1-2 wipes total across the first 4

but they're not like

parse runs

[novel star]

the technicality falls apart if you aren’t clean

[keen spruce]

and i'm not trying to sit in a pug raid and prog

for a whole night