assassination

[royal lantern]

Warlock

[short night]

it’s actually vegito smoking a cigarette and it’s the toughest thing ever

[spice spire]

I can think of 5000000 tougher things

[short night]

i have a lot of hate in my heart i love retaliation

[spice spire]

Like Davyn’s pfp

[tawdry mica]

man's got a point

[grim jay]

[gloomy heart]

my mage got SHAFTED

FUCK

[grim jay]

deserved

[inland escarp]

☹️

[grim jay]

no matter what happened

[gloomy heart]

NO

i literally have 0 myth track items right

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/788104496604512287/1313547694639419402/image.png?ex=6750881e&is=674f369e&hm=9a1da0c3f3a20ec19315d26d62eb603e1056118f8f565c95ff021c41a6f3c20b&

i get shit

[grim jay]

I mean

its a weapon

right

[gloomy heart]

i crafted a 639 one and if dagger sims better

than thats more crests out me pocket

[grim jay]

bro just transcended

and crafted 639

[cold fable]

do we still pool energy inbetween cooldowns and just keep envemon up? recentlyt watched a video that said dont worry about pooling except when kingbanes is about o come off CD

[grim jay]

not really

its just a minor loss

[inland escarp]

Arnt you only out 15 crests and some stones then?

[grim jay]

30

[gloomy heart]

id have to craft a offhand guys

-90

[royal lantern]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

• Energy just is low on the spec there's nothing to do about it
• Super Min-Max stuff includes avoiding the auto proc of tea (less than +0.2%, tea/shiv macro is optimal)
• Refreshing Envenom in pandemic instead of spamming it (mostly relevant for m+ without TTK, can be up to 0.5%)
• Otherwise nothing matters. Pooling before kingsbanes isn't important because of tea lining up and deathmark giving a huge surge of energy

[inland escarp]

Oh you crafted staff

Rip

[royal lantern]

tl:dr you can, but it doesnt really matter anymore

[grim jay]

thats on you

crafting staff

smh my head

[inland escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/trailer-park-boys-the-way-she-goes-oh-well-gif-14173918

[rose needle]

Just picked up the Ovi'nax trinket
That thing Sims ridiculously well
How do I use it? Do I just slap it on and not think about it or do I need to get a weak aura and min max it?

[spice spire]

Keep around 20 stacks each

[rose needle]

Thanks

[sly ocean]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[cedar flicker]

I have skydance hero already so it worth to get myth from vault

[raven egret]

Myth > Heroic soooooo

[spice spire]

Yes

[cedar flicker]

thank you

[rotund oak]

yes it is worth it

and if u ask again im starting WW3

[cedar flicker]

lol sorry for questions, I just return since leagion first patch. many thing was changed

[slim pebble]

Last week I got a myth Skardyns and literally didn’t even mouse over anything else in vault lol

[royal lantern]

he is jut jealous, dont worry

[spice spire]

So u hate me

[shy pecan]

I’d mouse over you if you were in my vault (or Luna or Fred)

[spice spire]

Luna and Fred are snap takes

[shy pecan]

Truth

[spice spire]

Oh god novel inc

[royal lantern]

was it my ping

pls not

[shy pecan]

Probably

[balmy condor]

!mute @short night 7d nah dude there is no way I’m waking up to you telling someone “die weeb pedophile” out of nowhere and then tripling down on “defending” yourself

[royal lantern]

oh ye, that a reasonable one

[spice spire]

I mean I figured

Was amazed that didn’t happen before

Also GM Vhispyr

[grim jay]

good evening wysphir

[coral ibex]

that guy posted screenshots of him sending toxic whispers to a raid leader and expected us to pat him on the back, he’s gotta be like 17 and mad at the world for being born

[balmy condor]

Hello

[shy pecan]

Is that the same guy?

[coral ibex]

yes

smoking vegito guy

[slim pebble]

@shy pecan @spice spire

[balmy condor]

Where he go

[spice spire]

My actual factual goat

(Fred?)

[shy pecan]

Oh. It is.

[royal lantern]

why post a pic of a cola package

[shy pecan]

Package started a fight clearly

[slim pebble]

Luna, she did it like 4 times and each time I was laughing so hard I almost couldn’t rescue her 😂

[spice spire]

That doofus

I will say chat was very uh.
Angsty this am - Luna heals all tho

[blazing warren]

Would you drop Sanguine Blades or Twist the Knife for Iron Wire?

M+

[coral ibex]

yes

i would

[balmy condor]

Yes

[blazing warren]

I mean which one haha

[balmy condor]

Yes

Either

Both

[coral ibex]

doesn’t really matter

SB is more aoe TTK is more st

[cobalt sphinx]

You can also drop MA or SBS and that mutilate thing

[coral ibex]

won’t meaningfully change your play

[cobalt sphinx]

Doomblade or whatever

[tropic cedar]

[balmy condor]

Big ring

[tall jay]

Nice!

[grim jay]

@subtle tundra

[halcyon hamlet]

is double on use actually viable?

[royal lantern]

with mandate, yes

[tall jay]

Oh snap

[royal lantern]

you just use mandate outside of cds

[halcyon hamlet]

like on 1 min KB cds?

[lethal turtle]

Why is this a phone picture of a cathode monitor screen LOL

[halcyon hamlet]

or just send it when its off cd?

[royal lantern]

nah, just in the downtime where you just spam mut mut envenom

[halcyon hamlet]

thats curious

[subtle tundra]

Mine is there aswell

For sure

Last item and I'm done with gear

[placid radish]

new ring releases in two weeks

[fading plinth]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[tropic cedar]

was also my last item i needed for harbinger of gilded

[royal lantern]

i mean

it will literally be the DF ring again

emergency 200% buffs 2 days before release and thats it

[earnest remnant]

lost ark raids goodge, lost ark daily content not goodge, lost ark pay2win not goodge

[lethal turtle]

Some of those gem effects are pretty wild in aoe setting

Whatever that sea gem one is, is spicy

[regal linden]

this time i guess they will make it BIS anyway

it takes 6 weeks to max it, come on

[spice spire]

Pls no

[raven egret]

Its a really really stupid ring

[tropic cedar]

wym this time? some specs would STILL be wearing their onyx ring rn if it wasn't nerfed

[brisk dew]

hmmm, to take myth sacbrood or farm hero track crystal

[raven egret]

I mean if you currently dont have a trinket equivalent of a M sacbrood its kind of a no brainer

[final dawn]

why do rogues not get a single key invite anymooooooreeee??????

[balmy condor]

probably cause you're applying to keys and there's higher score people applying

or higher gear level

or both

[tropic cedar]

it's a conspiracy

[slate crown]

Post your own key

[final dawn]

okay sorry that i do not have 3400 rio and 637 gs while applying for 13's

[slate crown]

and see what the app list looks like

and you'll have your answer

[tropic cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-skill-issue-krill-issue-gif-25572478

[slate crown]

good you should be sorry be better and maybe you'll get an invite (my io is 500 )

[final dawn]

app list is mostly below my rio and gs, which is why i am so much confused. thing is that i do rarely see a rogue when checking a full grp that I applied for

[balmy condor]

I mean, yes

[spice spire]

LE

Pal

[slate crown]

bud

[slate crown]

did you buy any gems

[spice spire]

I’m still at work

!!

I don’t get home for another 7 hours!$

[slate crown]

doesn't mean you can't be buying gems

[spice spire]

I don’t have a means to open the hit 2004 game known as world of Warcraft from 30 miles away!

[pale socket]

Anyone know why sim is showing roughly 1.6% damage loss after upgrading weapon ilvls..?

• pre-vault: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pXTkhhXvTyq9ufVkXdpFT7
• vault dagger: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/93HTcZYZifU9W6oDdzWGN9
  Pretty new to simming ._.

[subtle tundra]

work laptop?!?!

how long is your commute quak

[pale socket]

Is that within margin of error for simming?

[spice spire]

No

[spice spire]

Depends on traffic
25m-2 hours

[tropic cedar]

that is certainly a range wtf

[pale socket]

Maybe that haste/mastery gem is secretly yuge

[spice spire]

Don’t move to nashville ever

[subtle tundra]

mine is 50min-2hr

but 2hr is when theres heavy rain and shit

[spice spire]

Took me about 90 last night because it was lightly snowing

[gilded wolf]

Should I be using FoK or Mutilate on Court when they are stacked?

[subtle tundra]

mut unless adds are up

[hollow gazelle]

so question. when should you pop grace? i normally go bleeds. then dm then grace then kb. is that the proper order?

[pale socket]

So probably just me simming wrong, yeah..?

[spice spire]

I’m not sure

I’m on mobile so I can’t side by side

But that’s definitely confusing

[cobalt sphinx]

Yeah you can macro it to dm

[pale socket]

Ah, my apologies!

[spice spire]

Also don’t use weekly, always sim for nightly

[tropic cedar]

ah, Nashville, makes sense. I always cringe when I have to make my work trips up to Atlanta. traffic in big cities is just the worst

[spice spire]

Nah I mean I’m looking and idk why it’s that different duc

[pale socket]

Ooh duly noted! Still learning ^_^

[hollow gazelle]

nah it doesnt like to work so i just have another button

[slate crown]

2 HOURS?

[spice spire]

Our city isn’t as large, but the infrastructure leading into downtown is dogshit and a lot of the issue. Atlanta is a whole beast too. Been there some that

[spice spire]

Yeah one way

Old place I’d have 1-3.5 hours one way

[subtle tundra]

i had 1hr 50 min on friday

[slate crown]

I'm sorry I never meant to speak ill of you you are loved and cherished

[subtle tundra]

i was malding

[cobalt sphinx]

Doesn't like to work? Or doesn't work all of last week because of the cdr from the affix?

[spice spire]

You don’t really speak illof me as is

[slate crown]

I used to live outside of DC so I had similar types of commutes but haven't any time recently

[spice spire]

Im the hater here

[slate crown]

after I moved

[spice spire]

I’ve had this commute for uh

7 years now?

[hollow gazelle]

ive tried two macros for it and they both go off sometimes and sometimes they dont

[grim jay]

do you have them on your regular bar

that has like 1-9 keybinds usually

[hollow gazelle]

yeah

[grim jay]

yeah then you probably have the macro on one bar

but not the stealthbar

or non stealthbar

[slate crown]

if I go into the office, my commute is like 15 mins, 20 minutes at most, but I'm never driving in rush hour, but even then would probably only be 30min, 45min at the very most

[hollow gazelle]

oh shit i bet your right lol

[grim jay]

I'm always right, thats why people like asking me

jk

[spice spire]

Considering you blessed big dog

Idm it

Love my job

Get to yap at you fucks while helping people

What’s not to like

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/vibe-cat-gif-23091665

[grim jay]

helping people

[spice spire]

I love people man

[slate crown]

I like helping people when I can help them but hate it when I can't

like when you fucks ask a WA question oooooooo

[spice spire]

Well there’s a lot to hate here

[spice spire]

Hey now

[slate crown]

I said I like it!

[spice spire]

Me log guy

Me not weak aura guy

[slate crown]

pov: considering life rn

[normal mist]

ITS NOT WORTH IT

DON'T DO IT

[spice spire]

Wat

[grim jay]

quake only has strong aura

[spice spire]

True

I don’t run weak auras

[slate crown]

[spice spire]

Because I ain’t weak

[slate crown]

It actually isn't, I was dumb and put my points into EZ mine and now it's super easy to always get it but like

it's often like, 1 ore

at r1

like wtf

genuinely not worth stopping for them it's real bad

[cobalt sphinx]

One of these has internal bleeding and one has caustic spatter, not sure if that is the difference-maker

[grim jay]

should definitely be

[spice spire]

I didn’t even touch guilds

Builds

Was looking at gear

[pale socket]

Omg I’m dumb. Ty fellas

[grim jay]

wish you would touch me

wait what

[spice spire]

Dog wat

[shy pecan]

[lilac wind]

@slate crown what is the deathmark damage tracker for in your WA? just to keep tabs on your damage done in the deathmark windows?

and what do the numbers in the () mean?

[slate crown]

yes

[slate crown]

number of unique targets damaged

[subtle tundra]

youre unique

[lilac wind]

cool! thanks 🙂

[slate crown]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1014354066756874240/1243282237303160913/firefox_2024-05-23_14-19-09.gif

[shut aspen]

I guess myth crystal...

[spice spire]

Decent vault

[shut aspen]

need rings but the myth crystal is nice since my other is hero track

[spice spire]

Yeah queen ring also kinda hogs a spot anyway

That’s why I crafted the other (mistake likely)

[spice surge]

haha ye sure does bud!

My ring is definitely taking up a slot

(surely i get it in vault tmrw)

[shut aspen]

im still running vet queen ring lol

still sims higher

[spice spire]

Same here eleem (I have hero track and that’s all I’m ever getting)

[silk bane]

why do you want it? youre just gonna replace it in 3 weeks when the new awful ring drops and they buff it to the moon

[silk bane]

HELLO QUAKE HI KING HIIII

[spice surge]

Not as assa for keys

[silk bane]

oh yeah assa

[spice spire]

Hello Armin

[spice surge]

But ye prob not getting too much use out of it as sub

[spice spire]

How are you today

[silk bane]

okay but fr when is the patch? i need my plunderstorm

[spice surge]

17th is what ive heard

Not sure where the source for that is

[silk bane]

december or jan?

[spice surge]

Dec

[silk bane]

oh shit!!! thats sick!

[spice surge]

Multiple people have made it up independantly

[spice spire]

[normal mist]

Back in my days

[blissful pecan]

waking up and seeing martial law is kinda chill

good time for doing keys

[spice spire]

South Korea based? Sorry king

[blissful pecan]

nah i dont think its anything serious

[spice spire]

Looks like your parliament has already voted to shut it down.
Surely that goes through and nothing the matter

Still scary shit eh

[blissful pecan]

yeah

never thought i would actually expereince one in my life haha

cuz i only learned it from middle school textbook stuff

[spice spire]

Here’s hoping you slept through your only one

Phantom ping

[coral ibex]

i heard they already voted it down and also decided your pres was lame and smells bad

W korea

[bronze pike]

@spice spire

[spice spire]

Hello

[arctic socket]

@spice spire

[waxen oyster]

Need skardyn

and another myth ring that isnt the nw one

[spice spire]

Hello big dog how can I help you today

[waxen oyster]

How do I get all the passive trinkets one week after another

spyglass, sacbrood, crystal

Only took crystal after getting spyglass first week since only other thing would be socket which is kinda meh when you have barely any upgrades left.

[silk bane]

can you help me?

im rtying to figure out how my 7/1 sivir loses a 1v1 to a 0/8 draven

[spice spire]

I can try king

[spice spire]

Oh skill issue

[silk bane]

hmmmmmmmm

[waxen oyster]

Ok if i get a mythic scalawag i dont need hero queen ring

just barely

[coral ibex]

myth scalawag goes hard

[waxen oyster]

yeah im using crafted crit mast and hero scalawag

highest combo might be ovinaxx ring+siege though. Had the other siege ring in my vaul

[cyan karma]

You can recraft and cheese ring upgrades the same way you can with the daggers hey?…

[waxen oyster]

I did that before it got popularized

Reason i didnt spend any from 619-626 ring

But 636 nw crit vers sims worse than 626 scalawag apparently

[spice spire]

536

[cyan karma]

I got nothing better to do lol, my 2 ring slots and somthing else are hero, rest is mythic

[waxen oyster]

Bug still works fyi

Did it on dh since I got m rash wep

to not spend anything to get it to 636

[cyan karma]

Yeee I pulled it off with daggers last week… feels good to win hehehe

[waxen oyster]

That char has everything my rogue doesnt

hero queen ring

m rash cloak off one mythic vault

[smoky temple]

Hello guys, how are you? I started playing rogue assassination in this expansion and I'm loving it! However, I have a doubt, I can't do much damage with the ruin of kings, does anyone have tips on how I can increase the skill's damage even more?

[waxen oyster]

3 kyveza fists, hc contract

[cyan karma]

Yo that’s what I got today 😎

[waxen oyster]

Yeah i just took crystal

even though i raidlog and only do weeklies

spyglass better in raid

[waxen oyster]

ulgrax cloak sims the same for me but i had to dump 75 crests

to get it to 639

[cyan karma]

I can see this saving my ass so much in high keys

[waxen oyster]

and now we're back in extendo jail

nah thats not as big a save as you think

especially since it's after the damage

[cyan karma]

Really, I’m always getting chunked for 25% 😂

[spice spire]

Sequence well.
Raid:
Shiv > kingsbane > 7s after shiv again, and vanish with 6s left on kb.

On dungeons:
just shiv the last 7s of kb

[waxen oyster]

I mean, it's nice

but i honestly wanted it because it comes 6/6

already

[cyan karma]

….

Wow I did not notice that

[waxen oyster]

same with sikran neck

[cyan karma]

How good

[smoky temple]

what this? "kb"

[waxen oyster]

I guess its rng biting me since i got sikran neck first week of october

[cyan karma]

Kingsbane

[smoky temple]

ah ok

[spice spire]

Kingsbane.
Assume what you mean by ruin of kings

[waxen oyster]

Though really i guess "crest saving" is not as big for me.

[smoky temple]

yes

[cyan karma]

I need to regain crests cause of my own stupidly wasting them

[waxen oyster]

Because my 2nd trinket slot is 632, need to get my 90 for the week.

[smoky temple]

In my translation it looks like this, sorry

[waxen oyster]

and then i guess my 2 ring slots are max 636 no crest, 636 boots

[spice spire]

No worries kazel

[normal mist]

And the translation is somewhat correct

Ruina dos reis

or something

[spice spire]

Just trying to clarify

[waxen oyster]

So I think once i get this week's 90 gilded, I have enough to send my other slots to 639? Besides the fact i have 0 rings that are myth.

or boots

[arctic socket]

Rmt me some Taco Bell

[spice spire]

Miss me w that big dog

I’m no simp.

[gloomy heart]

HUGE

[smoky temple]

Sometimes my kb can reach 8 million, and sometimes it only reaches 3/4 million, I don't understand

[spice spire]

The glizzy is rising

[gloomy heart]

thats on rash

[waxen oyster]

I had boots on week, catalyst boots are dece

[spice spire]

Crits play a big role here

[gloomy heart]

heroic

[waxen oyster]

wait mythic?

oh nvm

[normal mist]

are you having good envenom buff uptime?

[waxen oyster]

Want to know the top meme about my dh

being 624

with 0 m+ done

[smoky temple]

I try to use as much poison as possible before the kb, to amplify the damage

I can make a short video of my rotation and send it here for you to analyze, what do you think? just a 14 sec cut (which is kb time)

[spice spire]

I sent you the rotation

[novel star]

what does this mean

“use” poisons

[spice spire]

Apply

Mutilates/maintain envenom etc.

[coral ibex]

you press kb and then do your envenoms

shiv at 7s

there’s nothing else to do

[novel star]

well yeah but even then like it’s during kingsbane not before

[waxen oyster]

Your 2 minute window kbs typically are like

[novel star]

and it’s all passive

[spice spire]

The only thing you do is maintain shiv throughout and vanish the last 6 seconds during dm windows

[waxen oyster]

10-12mil raid buffed?

[novel star]

[waxen oyster]

due to having dm vanish up for it

[smoky temple]

Sorry guys, I'm learning to speak English :c

[rotund oak]

dw fam,its suposed to be a joke

[spice spire]

You’re fine! I’m just trying to make sure what you’re being told is understood

[arctic socket]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[waxen oyster]

I don't think 4m kb is that bad

615 is kind of low nowadays so probably normal?

for the 1min ones?

[rotund oak]

can confirm but cant expose

quake is a nice guy

[arctic socket]

I could expose

[subtle tundra]

1 sec let me pull out my spreadsheet with 1min kb dmg per ilvl

[arctic socket]

Goat

[waxen oyster]

Just go full mastery vers

and crit every tick of kb natty

[rotund oak]

do u know that i know that u know i know?

[spice spire]

Buddy you can’t

[arctic socket]

I think I know that you know because he knows and you know that he knows so in sense yes

[spice spire]

Wat

[rotund oak]

shots fired

literally

[waxen oyster]

Know what I love

[spice spire]

What

[waxen oyster]

radiant power proccing AFTER kb ends

[rotund oak]

💀

thats cursed

[spice spire]

Love procs

Amen

[waxen oyster]

Although I think radiant power is not as offensive

as double sophic

[spice spire]

Do not remind me

Of the shmeeps special

[smoky temple]

I don't know if you'll be able to understand, but I normally do this rotation on a single target: ambush, garrote, rupture, envenom with maximum points, deathmark, shiv + tea, kingsbane, and after that, I look for the maximum combo points to keep using envenom. What do you think?

[waxen oyster]

moment

Yes that last proc was peak

[rotund oak]

cant be more unlikely

[spice spire]

You’re late on your second ahiv

[waxen oyster]

But look at the other 3

[spice spire]

Shiv*

Like really late

[smoky temple]

Do you think I should use it right away?

[spice spire]

Oh nvm

One shiv

Last 7s

[smoky temple]

before the first envenom

[waxen oyster]

I mostly got curious how tf a non dm kb did 9m

[spice spire]

No

Kingsbane has 14s

Hit shiv on the last 7s

[smoky temple]

ahhh

When there are 7 seconds left before kb ends, do I use shiv? and that ?

[rotund oak]

idk,uve crit on every tick? 😄

[waxen oyster]

Shiv is 8s

kb 14

[rotund oak]

shiv is 8seconds boys

not 7

[smoky temple]

so in the last 8 seconds haha

[spice spire]

Yeah so I’m defaulting to the normal logic of 7s to go you hit with 2

Final 8s

Yeah

That’s going to be your highest # of stacks

[waxen oyster]

I mean the first shiv covers the first 7 seconds of kb

[spice spire]

Yeah

But one shiv we do 8s

[coral ibex]

in theory you can press shiv as soon as you max stacks

[spice spire]

Yeah it doesn’t matter

But if you’re counting ur kb stacks

[waxen oyster]

Well you want to at least spend twice

if playing forced induction

[spice spire]

[coral ibex]

no, the charges stack

[smoky temple]

Remembering that I'm not using the talent to have 2 shivs, do you think I should use it? for mythic+

[waxen oyster]

Oh do they?

[coral ibex]

you can have 3 or 4 at a time

yup

[waxen oyster]

So you'd get 3

damn

[rotund oak]

yup

[coral ibex]

no

[smoky temple]

ok

I just need to worry about using shiv in the last 8 seconds, is that it?

[gloomy heart]

another one on ovinax

[coral ibex]

yessir

that is your rule of thumb in 99.9% of content

[waxen oyster]

Btw, you called it

HAHAHAHAHAH

[rotund oak]

AHHAHAHAH

[smoky temple]

ok, I'll test it. Thanks guys, you helped me a lot!

[rotund oak]

wild

[waxen oyster]

Yeah execute range kb 100% critting

[coral ibex]

huge damage

[waxen oyster]

Too bad i didnt hold pot

[rotund oak]

actual

[waxen oyster]

but it was a 1min kb

[rotund oak]

[waxen oyster]

so doubt i would have expected tht

[gloomy heart]

my parse doesnt count bc too many externals?

FFUUUCK

[waxen oyster]

You guys get externals?

LOL

[subtle tundra]

nope

its just him

[gloomy heart]

pug life

[rotund oak]

lol man

[waxen oyster]

only time i get externals are pug m+ priests

[rotund oak]

u got stuffed with PIs

[waxen oyster]

who PI at the worst time

Reminds me when I got PI in amirdrassil

more often as outlaw

....

[coral ibex]

get your parses natty like the rest of us!

[waxen oyster]

I joined a really bad hc ovinaxx pug last week

almost 8min kill

200m spatter dam

Buff rogue ty

[patent vessel]

CHRISTMAS KNIVES

[balmy condor]

dawg

how do I see two of these

but not a fucking myth track chest

unreal

[prisma scaffold]

hi guys in downtime with sanguine blades and ttk talented, do i still keep my energy at 150 or use envom whenever i can?

[blissful pecan]

Ahh doing 8 rounds of +10 keys is so fruastrating

no cresent

just for vault

[waxen oyster]

real, love zoning into mists for the 8th time that week.

[blissful pecan]

hope i can get skardin soon and gtf outa here

[waxen oyster]

no extend jail?

[balmy condor]

nop

[spice spire]

Court dies this week

Surely

[gloomy heart]

mcglizz rising up

[waxen oyster]

Nah stuck in court jail still

pain

[gloomy heart]

do yall run caustic on mythic uglrax

[balmy condor]

yes

[arctic socket]

Yes

[spice spire]

Yes

[gloomy heart]

Yes

[gilded wolf]

What’s the deal with this affix? DB boss healed until we ran out of time

[gloomy heart]

What affix is it

[spice surge]

Its the dispel/heal absorb one

[gloomy heart]

Oh thats easy

just dispel it!

[spice surge]

Or atleast im fairly sure thats the one that heals

[spice spire]

Yeah it is

[gilded wolf]

Pally cannot dispell it?

[spice spire]

You either have to heal it off or dispel

[waxen oyster]

holy can

ret if they talent it

[gilded wolf]

Our healer was holy pal, didn’t dispel it and then rage quit

[spice spire]

Yeah they can dispel one per

Maybe 2?

[waxen oyster]

Yeah I mean that's partly a skill issue they should get their own.

[spice spire]

Ye

[waxen oyster]

You can also heal through it but generally dps can get theirs

[spice spire]

Yeah

I actually press vial like a sicko

Priest trivializes it tho

[waxen oyster]

i stoneform mine usually

[spice spire]

Getting every other one with md

I’m a blood elf basic bitch

[waxen oyster]

Yeah isnt md cd 2mins nowadays?

[gilded wolf]

Goblin rogue no real way to get it myself ya?

[waxen oyster]

That affix was why shaman poison cleanse got nerfed

cloak only

You kind of have to make a comp for it

[spice spire]

Ye

[waxen oyster]

Pretty sure only dps that dont just have a dispel for it are

dh warrior rogue

[spice spire]

But still you can purify your own. And someone else’s pretty easily

Affix lowkey is free

[waxen oyster]

Yeah

I say this when early season i just did

double shaman pug comps

[spice spire]

Shaman makes it mega free

[waxen oyster]

Yeah this was before pct got nerfed too

[spice spire]

And they’re just good

So like

It ended up being easy week

[waxen oyster]

[spice spire]

But even on priest

It trivializes it a bit

[waxen oyster]

Just having 1-2 hybrids does

as long as you dont have some cursed comp like double rogue and warrior

[spice spire]

Ye

[gilded wolf]

Ty all

[fresh kelp]

our weekly with 2 rogues and dk was a bit sus

[tough trail]

what talentbuilds are u guys running for in mist?

[waxen oyster]

Standard wowhead build

[coral ibex]

i swap iw for sb in mists

don't tell anyone

[hollow gazelle]

we have alot of kicks and stuns in my push group i never even run iw

[blissful pecan]

is there any actually good looking daggers in wow

[coral ibex]

what you pushin bud

[blissful pecan]

feel like they all kinda sucks compared to other wepons

[coral ibex]

legion artifact hidden appearances are pretty good

[sudden trench]

The mage tower ones 🙂

[blissful pecan]

cant get them anymore right?

[sudden trench]

Nah

[blissful pecan]

😢

[warm vortex]

wGuys

i tried a key as sub

....

[balmy condor]

w guys

[warm vortex]

AND LIKED IT
fail

[balmy condor]

l wommen

[coral ibex]

these are solid

so are these

[warm vortex]

Hush your mouf >:(

[blissful pecan]

4th one is kinda chill

[coral ibex]

dudes rock

[balmy condor]

change to blue name loser

enjoying sub

[warm vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/gatoo-gato-pobresito-stressed-cat-gif-26474432

[balmy condor]

whats next, you're gonna tell me you enjoy boomkin?

[warm vortex]

Actually eh

Tried it ealrier this expac and i mean it just felt

Kinda shit? Was fun at first

But nah

[coral ibex]

everything is shit compared to rogue, except SL S4 frost mage

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[blissful pecan]

i believe subs are actually better on some dungeons no?

eg CoT

[warm vortex]

Most likely X)

[blissful pecan]

sub dps in CoT is actually so nuts tho

[warm vortex]

Grrr

[balmy condor]

god I hope so

[warm vortex]

I can't wear tier helmet

[coral ibex]

yea i mean half the dungeon is RP downtime

[warm vortex]

Ears clip >:(

[balmy condor]

then all the hipster mplussers will leave me the fuck alone

[coral ibex]

emplussers man

well i got keys to do

[cobalt sphinx]

Sub with dust would be extra double good in cot

Break every root

[blissful pecan]

these dagger looks kinda funny on vulpera lol

too big for him ig

[cobalt sphinx]

I guess it’s a dps cd though

[warm vortex]

Everything looks funny on vulpera

[blissful pecan]

thats why i just use daggers from 20 years ago

💀

[coral ibex]

i want my daggers to be fucking enormous

the bigger and fuck-you-ier they are the better

[blissful pecan]

indeed

[balmy condor]

may I introduce to you

[coral ibex]

i prefer a downward curve

you feel me boss

[balmy condor]

hey

[coral ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-shrug-idk-iono-hands-up-gif-7122581203490458147

[balmy condor]

but like

those are just swords

[woven shore]

Bro

[coral ibex]

if you could literally 180 flip those

i'd use them

[woven shore]

Wtf is silken court

[balmy condor]

a fight

one of the fights of all time

[woven shore]

My brain is exploding on this amount of information

[coral ibex]

a dance that your guild can't do

[balmy condor]

your brain doesn't need to explode

[coral ibex]

its actually very simple

[balmy condor]

it's legit like 3 mechanics

[coral ibex]

pretend the other color team doesn't exist

they're just a void zone

you die if you go there

easy

[blissful pecan]

these are fking huge as well

[coral ibex]

sometimes you pick up colored orbs

otherwise you hit boss

simpol

silken court is literally "run in a circle" x17

[blissful pecan]

if you look at it and try to understand its kinda hard

[balmy condor]

yeh it's legit just stack with your team color, spread for green circle, rotate and eat orb, web the boss, dispel under boss

ggwp

[woven shore]

Go here go there 4 groups blablBla

[blissful pecan]

but if you try its kinda easy

take orb walk counterclockwise take orbs

again and again

[woven shore]

Frontel here
Bait shit out
Walk clockwise
Counterclockwise

Dude what

[balmy condor]

yes

that's the entire fight

[woven shore]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[blissful pecan]

its like

learning to dance

10 min long dance tho

[woven shore]

Am i just overreacting to mythic court?

[coral ibex]

literally 1984 for most wow players

[versed tree]

why do i suck ass ST in m+, like real ass

[blissful pecan]

yea

[coral ibex]

spec design

[blissful pecan]

its not that complicated once you try it

[coral ibex]

literally exactly how its supposed to play

[blissful pecan]

i understand ur pain btw

it looks so scary when u first see the vid

[coral ibex]

did you watch the dogwater guild video

[woven shore]

What about the "new" mechanics

[coral ibex]

the clip in the beginning from yumytv's guild

[blissful pecan]

dw about that ur RL will tell u what to do tho

[coral ibex]

with the guy crashing out literally 8 seconds into a pull

that shit is hilarious

YOUR BRAIN IS COOKED MAN

[woven shore]

Time to get ce

[coral ibex]

https://youtu.be/M67hOPT61mg?t=9

cinema

[woven shore]

If we kill it this month which im sure we will
Im First time in my life going to prog into 8/8 mythic raidboss

[coral ibex]

there's nothing like a good late boss crash out

[woven shore]

Im scared to fuck up alot

[spice spire]

Failure is a step to progress

[blissful pecan]

there arent much to fk up btw if you are ass rogue

[woven shore]

My guild is mad at me already because i only log in for 1x mythic dungeon a week and raid

[spice spire]

Do not be scared to fail. Be scared to fuck up and not learn from it

[coral ibex]

haha yea if you fuck up a lot then ur gonna be in even hotter shit

doesn't do chores, fucks up the dance

not a good look

[balmy condor]

I don't log in for mythic dungeon at all

[blissful pecan]

actually one of our members got kicked out of the raid run last week

[balmy condor]

I'm 637 equipped, what are they gonna tell me, I'm undergeared?

[spice spire]

Where skardyns

[woven shore]

Im 634

[spice spire]

[coral ibex]

how's that mercurial egg buster

[balmy condor]

no need, have tert transmitter

[balmy condor]

great actually

[coral ibex]

and he got speed

man fuck you

[blissful pecan]

how does it feel to use transmitter on court

[balmy condor]

promise?

[spice spire]

How about I transmit my seed to your mouth pal

[balmy condor]

not bad at all

[blissful pecan]

ive tired it and felt like it was kinda troll

[coral ibex]

collect or stand in circle

[blissful pecan]

doing webs btw

[balmy condor]

you're using CDs on the damage amps so you can preplan it and it's literally free

I do webs too

[woven shore]

Whisp

[balmy condor]

first charge is the easiest transmitter I have ever done

[woven shore]

Do you think 634 is enough

[balmy condor]

literally solves itself

[woven shore]

For mythic

[balmy condor]

yeah ofc

[woven shore]

Good

I HATE this mythic + season

Its the most boring dungeons in the world

Unrewarding

And forcing me to do it bc of upgrades

😡

[blissful pecan]

wait for next season till u play that cursed candle dungeon

[woven shore]

Bring back heart of azeroth

Omg i miss that shit so much

[gloomy heart]

4/8M now pog

[coral ibex]

bro every mythic boss was killed with 10 less ilvl than you and prior to multiple rounds of nerfs and also you have 9% severed strands buff

[woven shore]

Gz my friend

[woven shore]

I dont even want to read that

But that trinket

😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫☠️☠️☠️☠️

[coral ibex]

634 is enough, you can literally 180 away from fat boy during intermissions and be ahead of the damage check on court

can't stress enough how little your damage matters on court

[waxen oyster]

court feels much less fun when you're doing web

[blissful pecan]

doing web is kinda fun no?

[waxen oyster]

ehh

[coral ibex]

meh

[blissful pecan]

maybe my brain is broken

[woven shore]

I read that

[blissful pecan]

somehow i feel like its fun

[woven shore]

Dmg doesnt matter alot

Doing shit right

[coral ibex]

having an assignment can be fun

[waxen oyster]

You probably do priory next season

for an on use

[coral ibex]

i'm dead serious you can literally turn around and not hit the boss for 100% of every intermission

[waxen oyster]

Well people killed court months ago

with no strands buff

and less ilvl

[coral ibex]

like i said

[woven shore]

What ilvl was liquid

[gilded wolf]

When is next season?

[coral ibex]

i think avg was like 623?

[woven shore]

On rwf

[coral ibex]

maybe 624

[woven shore]

What???

[gloomy heart]

4 bosses nothing to roll on

[coral ibex]

yea bro lmao

[gloomy heart]

OOF

[blissful pecan]

they are fking crazy tho

[coral ibex]

they are infinitely better at the game

[woven shore]

624 what the actual fuck

[blissful pecan]

did you see their kyveza run?

they did 1 tank

[waxen oyster]

Nothing on court is a damage check

[blissful pecan]

cuz they lacked heal/dps

[woven shore]

?????

[waxen oyster]

everything that kills you is a oneshot

[woven shore]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[waxen oyster]

LMFAO

[woven shore]

No i didnt see 😂😂😂😂😂

[waxen oyster]

Ok i guess you can die to spider melees

if your dks are jerking it

[coral ibex]

bro RWF was done with ~30% less potential output than you have right now

and significantly less stamina

[woven shore]

My god....

1 tank

How is that possible

[coral ibex]

they didn't 1 tank kyveza for long iirc

[woven shore]

Was dk so op

[coral ibex]

they fixed it no?

pretty sure kill was 2 tank

or did they fix it after they killed it

[blissful pecan]

they just kill tank once

[woven shore]

And fireup bug abuse

[blissful pecan]

and revive to reset the stacks

[woven shore]

[coral ibex]

yea blizz hotfixed that

so death doesn't clear stacks

i dont remember if it was before or after they killed it

bc i remember the liquid stream absolutely hating the 1 tank strat

scott was miserable

[blissful pecan]

but still its just crazy how one can think of that tactics and execute

respect

they did like 400 pulls on kyveza and killed court with 100~ tries right?

[woven shore]

What is a dogwater guild

[coral ibex]

what

[waxen oyster]

Depends who you ask

[woven shore]

😂😂😂😂?

[coral ibex]

that video i linked is made by a guild literally called "Dogwater"

[woven shore]

Ah ok

[dark current]

is empowering crystal actually better than arakara for m+?

[coral ibex]

you can answer that with a sim but yea crystal is generally a little better in m+ because all stats are good m+ compared to strict ST

[gloomy heart]

got me feeling gooood

[coral ibex]

been a JO crystal enjoyer for a while

it has like 45% uptime

[gloomy heart]

havent seen crystal in vaulto yet

rlly wish theyd buff crest limit

im capped hard

[balmy condor]

you can have some of mine

I legit have no use for them anymore

[warm vortex]

Right imma snooze now

and open this tmrrw

If i don't get a ring or neck mythic imma scream

IG belt is ok to
But id rather get a replacement for a hero item than a crafted

If i get a ring or nexk replacement prolyl 637 tmrrw

[cerulean nest]

got my last socket

no more vaults for me

[waxen oyster]

Me here with hero skardyn like

[gloomy heart]

🙂 i get trinkets every week

[waxen oyster]

I've seen 3 weeks in a row

skipped sac last week took crystal this one

[coral ibex]

you will get it

[waxen oyster]

crystal worse than spyglass on st by 3k apparently

[loud dome]

my vault

[waxen oyster]

That thing sims terrible for me

[spice spire]

You also have sikran neck

[waxen oyster]

Yeah

casual like 5k haste

on one item

[loud dome]

15k dps? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kYSMvjjw5q2M1H9LBBsLDj

guess i have to take it

[coral ibex]

yea i took the same ring and it was like 17k dps

[loud dome]

feels wrong

[coral ibex]

its not like haste is bad

all stats good

[waxen oyster]

means your old ring was kinda bad

[vast loom]

it might change if you had sikran neck

[loud dome]

crit mastery both of them

[coral ibex]

yea i mean it was a 626

[loud dome]

just 626

[coral ibex]

gonna be worse than 639

old ring

[waxen oyster]

Yeah that one

Why sim 6mins though

LMAO yeah bloodbound ring huge stinky for me

[nova kelp]

because...
you want to sim the worst possible situation?

[gloomy heart]

Which flask do yall use in m+

Alchemical?

[grizzled cargo]

I know this is kind of a stupid question - but which is easier to play for M+; Outlaw or Assa?

I'm old and slow, and just want to play the spec that offers the least resistance for M+ in order to perform well.

[waxen oyster]

Ret pally

Rogue ain't it if you trying to pull the "old and slow" card.

[cobalt sphinx]

assassination is pretty easy

[waxen oyster]

On a base level yeah

[cobalt sphinx]

probably assassination over the other two specs

[waxen oyster]

playing outlaw optimally is something most people underestimate

[coral ibex]

assa is gcd locked in aoe

and plays slowly in single target

"slowly"

[viral stump]

I don't get it. BIS trinks for Sin Rogue are Skardyn's Grace and Dead-Eye Spyglass. But when I sim a 626 SG and 619 Shadow-Binding Ritual Knife against 626 SG + 626 Spyglass, the Champion level knife wins easy.

[cobalt sphinx]

bis list is memes

just go with whatever sims

[coral ibex]

that's because sims matter more than bis lists

wowhead needs bis lists so andys will click

[cobalt sphinx]

it is for farming SEO

[coral ibex]

literally

[viral stump]

That damn ritual knife out classes everything Hero level...and I've collected many.

[waxen oyster]

Bis is having 639 in every slot.

🤨

[coral ibex]

yes

[waxen oyster]

You think bis is using suboptimal gear?

[coral ibex]

ritual knife is insane

[waxen oyster]

[viral stump]

suboptimal?

[coral ibex]

would be giga bis if it were available on myth track

[waxen oyster]

non myth gear

Yeah knife is turbo overbudget

moreso if you never get the negative during cds

[coral ibex]

and yea bis means literally 639 ilvl all slots

[viral stump]

I assumed a 626 BiS would out class a 619 trink. Guess not.

[waxen oyster]

Did you bother reading

Why knife loses

[warm vortex]

I hope

[gloomy heart]

im crosseyed i can only read things if theyre giga spaced out

like this

hi im mcglizzy

[viral stump]

Did I "bother reading" what?

[waxen oyster]

I mean the tierlist or whatever

That's where "bis list" comes from.

Even though who tf follows that.

[viral stump]

I see the negative, but it always sims far better

[gloomy heart]

can you read this

[waxen oyster]

read this

[cobalt sphinx]

have you simmed your knife vs 639 spyglass

[waxen oyster]

you dont have bis gear congrats

if you tried simming 639 knife it would be bis

but it doesnt exist

and cannot

[gloomy heart]

read this

[waxen oyster]

Like, the passive trinket slot is very simple

Use whatever gives you stats passively

[balmy condor]

-# what the fuck man

[waxen oyster]

Wow players have a weird fixation on bis lists though

genuinely

[gloomy heart]

what the fuck man

[balmy condor]

yeah it's insanely cringe

[gloomy heart]

i used to do that

now i sim

!

mcglizzy on top

[viral stump]

I sim as well... hence my question. No need to belittle someone.

[balmy condor]

we're not belittling you, the wow community as a whole has an unfounded fascination over bis lists and has for years

and it's just strange

we've lived in a world with sims for so many years, you'd think bis lists would get phased out

[cobalt sphinx]

no he is definitely belittling him but it's a class discord so that's just the way it goes

[balmy condor]

but they remain for some reason

[viral stump]

I suppose they shouldn't call it best in slot. Kind of tricksee language. Leading.

[waxen oyster]

As soon as they made mainstat worth more than anything else

and rng weekly loot

bis has kinda been....

[balmy condor]

yeh I mean it's entirely unreasonable to obtain

[waxen oyster]

Like, sure it's worth maybe thinking about when you're like 5 months into farm.

And having multiple myth choices

but that can also be simmed

[gloomy heart]

if u have every myth item in the game then sure

if not

get fucking good

[balmy condor]

there MIGHT be 2 people every patch that are able to claim the precise perfect super bis

in the world

[waxen oyster]

would races affect that

curious

[balmy condor]

I mean even by minutia yes

and for m+ where people can't agree on builds to begin with?