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didnt crit
or fok
probably fok
cause its on opener
and you have the the thing that
the uh
fok
clear the whitness
fok this
i see ye
you have imp ambush that affects ambush cp, then there is shrouded for garrote cp and the crit thing
makes sense
thats all there ever can be to it
I wouldnt bother personally
oki
still interesting to see haste gems giving most dps
why would it be
i guess i have way too much mastery
crit is devalued from the hero talent
so haste is a bit better than crit most of the time
also crit is devalued from ma
also you got a buttload of crit from your specific items
like the queen ring
if you have it
u right but how wtf i ambush (normal ambush gives 3cp + imp amb 1cp), garrote should give me 1 cp so in total that would make 5 but somehow i still dont get 5 sometimes..
normal ambush gives 2
with imp its 3
unless im tripping
(unlikely)
aaaaah fk i tought normal gives 3 when i went with my mouse over, but it calculate with imp amb talents already
ok than, mut>rupt
then*
ye its kinda 50/50 if you gotta mut before rupture
or as varas said clear the witness maybe
oh ye
I always forget that
doesnt really matter anyways tho, as long as you consume it
gonna do like that
Gonna consume that ass bud
cleanly shaven or is a stubble fine?
based. idk who wants to shave their ass clean anyways
ive heard its awful\
when it starts growing back
it itches and its so bad
i wouldnt know
y'know
i dont clean my house unless i expect visitors.
ye its insane. shortening or just letting it grow is the way
If we shiv at last 8 seconds of KB and thistle tea then, we won't have tea for the last 2 seconds of KB, for the mastery buff. Is that bad?
the girls dont like them hairs long
girls?
you just shiv and tea together. if it was bad or worse, it wouldnt be suggested to macro that way.
where can i find some usefull macros?
i just saw we should have tea and shiv together
thats the only thing
!tea
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
and trinket with dm
Trinket from GB? Skardyn right?
yes
Shiv should be always used with tea and KB ?
tea always with shiv in the macro
shiv and KB naturally line up
if you have only 1 shiv you can get in a usage between KBs
Nice ty for all the tips
Tought assa was really hard but seems to be not that hard to understand and play
you just gotta ask (yourself) the right questions
and it probably kinda clicks at some point
well i still have to figure out the stats a bit
atm all my crafted items are with haste/mastery
since i use master assasin i figure i need to have a little more haste but not much too
i dont take ilvl, i just take
Bottom behavior tbh
You can take me anytime 
Its not just about taking, sometimes its about giving
Bro only taking on thanksgiving smh my head
Wouldnt be assa channel otherwise, would it now 
Tell him eleem
What if i need horny relationship advice 
Clearly a world of warcraft discord is the IDEAL place to seek that kind of advice
Honestly the overlap here is kind of there
Lest we ping Armin
Riot themselves would probably answer if i asked about feet 
Archon.gg has the most used build with only a single shiv charge. Are you saving the shiv for last 8 secs of kingsbane with thistle tea or using before kings bane is applied after death mark?
Last 8s
I am having trouble understanding the reasoning for using in the last 8secs vs front loading it. Could you elaborate?
Sure
Thatās understanding kb
Kb is a dot; it has a large initial hit but you stack kb with poison applications passively, maxing at 50, later your ticks will be more stacked (thus do more damage) so itās better to amplify at the end
Gotcha. Thank you! So you are applying your bleeds and envenom into death mark, KB into envenom dump and at the last 8 secs add a thistle/shiv?
Yep
And if you are playing st with double shiv you want to shiv before kb so that way your whole kb is covered by shiv
Got it šš¼ thanks all!
guys i cant get the left mouse click tricks of the trade macro/weakaura to worrk any ideas pls?
can someone link the weakaura again pls ā¤ļø
!tricks
Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
Is it dumb to have a macro for Shiv into KB?
Theyre both on the gcd, so you cant macro em
Knew that just the button issue is exactly why lol
I thought I get way better but turns out I was just pumped with PI š¦ xD
630 assa rogue in a double timed GB10 with the usual big pulls. What would you expect in overall dps? I know it's hard to say but I just need to judge myself against something. ^^e.g. I did now 1.73m but I got a lot of PI. I think I should be way higher no?
Button issue? I also already have a button issue, of having too many free spaces because blizzard keeps removing shit
Dope
Depends on a lot of factors. I had roughly 2m without PI or aug on my last weekly GB
yeah that's what I'd expect. ok good thanks - slowly getting there. at least the other 3 630 people were the same lol
why can't I see PI uptime in details?
You should be able to see pi as a buff on you in details
As a buffon
It'll be under buffs
ok will check it out, had to leave.
When your damage meter is up click on your name and look at the Auras tab
On phone so can't look at logs but do you do your normal opener? I've had better cool down sync with sending cds right after first phase blades are done, gives you much better uptime and lines up with third phase blades that way too
Yeah i do the normal opener
So that means do you hold deathmark until the first blades are gone?
But I do feel like it's pretty easy to get 80%+ if you actually play the fight optimally
Personally idk if it's optimal but personally I wait for first dashes, instantly shadow step after the dashes are over and then do cd window
Since you'll have two envenoms on him and can fulll send that way with perfect uptime before he does another round of dashes
If you do it right st the start you can't hit him during the second half ish or kb window, meaning you get less value from the energy saturation and lower uptime -> lower kb dmg
For me personally it has been worth
Iām not sure why you would hold anything
Only thing is holding 4:30 dm for 5:30 so you can use with pot (assuming you do not get the last cd set)
Im just coming back today I havent played since DF Season 2 and im confused. Why is Thisle Tea passive now?
I cant be the only one to figure out that you can put it on the bottom of a macro and itl auto use it when your out of energy
Which sin build is used most in the m+ meta?
Kingsbane is after or before shiv
after i believe
thistle tea is just a passive if you ran out of energy
deathmark - shiv ( tea) - kb
change happend in 11.0.5, it auto-triggers if you're <30 energy but you can still use it manually.
I read it. It just seems silly. Whats worse is those of us that did will still put it at the bottom of our macro because mutilate costs 50 anyway so t auto triggering at 30 isnt really useful. I guess if I remove it from my macro Itl auto trigger less often and I have better control over it?
!tea
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
there you go, just use that
That wasnt my question and I write my own macros but cool š
Thinking outloud about it lead me to my answer thankyou
okay cool
didnt ask
?
am I missing something with spyglass? wildly underperforming on overall dps in mythic+ compared to what the sims say. Losing out to ritual knife by 300-400k overall in 8+
its ass in m+
great to hear š
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
empowering crystal from dawnbreaker is what most people use
300-400k is actually conservative... ive seen some packs im used to hitting 2.5m and im at like 1.7 with roughly same group makeup, buffs, etc.
You mean the Deadeye spyglass?
its not 300-400k difference "ass"
I mean you asked a question and got an answer that is legit and you somehow got passive aggressive
yea
huh?
dslice sim puts it pretty close to ritual knife
For you m+ assa rogues in the chat, what did you do for embelish? On murlok io im seeing a couple diff setups for the top rogues
I got an answer that was unrelated and gently pointed it out because that info might be helpful. Can we move on?
You first
yes, which is why I asked if others saw the same... supposed to sim close but I just dont see it in reality, at least with my current ilvl of 620.
The reason you did 300k less has nothing to do with spyglass
no trinket vs any trinket isnt even 300k
Itās good in ST and overall dslice has it made up for on a boss. In packs youāll notice it, yeah
ok, strike the number and leave it at underperforming then. My logs mean nothing
thank you for the answers
Embels are pretty w.e, Dawnthread x2 for M+ is considered "BiS". But its negligible difference to ascension+patch
And Ascension+patch is "BiS" for raid
The difference seems impossibly big I just figured a mythic rogue would get basically nothing out of the extra crit?
Crit chance is really good on sin, just deadeye only stacks on 1 target which is pretty meh in m+
yea, it can stay in my bags for now, it's a noticeable difference and large enough that I was able to make up the difference when swapping it
most trinkets lose to ritual knife unless on myth track fwiw
How did I not think of that
myth track ritual knife would go crazy
yea, I've swapped back to it
but you won't catch me running delves
ty for the answer
You still get stacks if it procs on a random mob
Fok does that
Yes sims include that
so i went to my doctors today, and i essentially had the "my knee hurts when i press it. 'so stop pressing it then'" interaction, but with spicy food š¦
why would you press spicy food?
look, KFC hot n spicy is too good
what's a mythic rogue
mythic +
mythic+ rogues get a lot from crit
comparing ur details overall from 2 different keys and thinking gear has any (literally any) effect on it is insane
it does not
even comparing burst peaks is insane
thats just not how anything works
They were talking about Spyglass in M+ and because this is my literal first day back I misread that as mythic raiding. So I meant a rogue geared for mythic raid and realized what I did wrong as soon as someone said "The problem with Spyglass in M+ is its single target"
I gotta go tho cheers everyone
you could have a knife pull where you get insanely unlucky crits or worst case scenario a crit/mastery debuff proc
while youre in the middle of aoe burst
or a pack where you get spyglass instantly at the start and the buff lasts the entire pack and every kb tick crits because you got lucky
a sample size of 2 in a game like wow with so many different things happening all at once is fucking ridiculous

just pick whatever trinket makes you smile i guess
nothing matters

exile didnt deserve to be used in this convo
i will use
whenever i want to
no you dont
Based take
This next message was unnecessary
whats ur opinion on PoE 2 ill judge your character based on this take
Itās actually devastating to read
exile is progging the new xiv ultimate on WHM that face is 100% real
Was fine
LMAO
looks fun
never got into poe much but poe2 looks like fun
ill probably try it at some point
banned

Call me this place
Sup
Yeah thatās literally me
1st time in raid got rashanan cloak 
Hot
Also me killing rashanan for 5 million times getting not even witnessing capes
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In raid if I have supercharge and not darkest night should I envenom at 3 combo points? Also same thing for 5 combo points if I have darkest night? Kind of confused how it works and I remember people saying it was bugged when it was first changed
you can if you want, but it doesnt really make any difference
since the supercharger points value goes over the cap
you can still build to 5+ like normal and just get whats functionally a 8/9/10cp envenom anyway
So basically just play as you would if you didn't have the talent?
yeh
the stacks are always gonna be consumed during shiv either way
and always going to have their full +2/+3cp value
so it doesnt change anything

In that case if I'm one stack from darkest night proc would it make sense to wait a few sec if shiv is up to get supercharger to get the guaranteed crit?
what do you mean
if you have supercharger and 6cp you can envenom for DN
you donāt shiv outside kb windows
so youād only have this happen soon after a kingsbane
Is saving shiv if I'm 1 envenom from DN worth it if it takes a few seconds? Sometimes this happens during raid when I have 2 charges and I'm kinda curious if it's worth
no
the shiv would build cp and put you at 7 anyway
never do this
send both of your shivs for kingsbane as usual
this
What about in m+ though
you donāt shiv outside kb and you donāt have supercharger in m+
if you do iāll ask you why youāre not playing subterfuge in m+
I believe he is suggesting to wait a couple seconds to use the DN envenom for shiv to come up (and in keys you do shiv between kingsbanes)
if you happen to be playing supercharger and single shiv i guess you could hold dn for a few seconds until shiv comes up but i dont think it would be a gain and if it is its a very small one not worth thinking about
Yeah that's what I'm asking but you're right I don't use it in m+
on top of not having supercharger
or at least, you can
you can use supercharger in keys
I'm more asking for raid
because to do this you are also losing the passive damage from having mark active
and you can shiv in between kbs
and no, in raid you can not ever send shiv without it being used for 100% kingsbane coverage
why do you think shiv matters outside kb
if youre sending raw shivs in raid youre trolling pretty bad
both charges gotta be used for kb
youāre overthinking it
yeah
And delay it for like 2 or 3s
press shiv for kb
Yeah that's what I'm thinking
just an overthink
stop thinking beyond that
I wasn't sure if the DN supercharger is a huge nuke and I'm losing dam not doing it but yeah I think overthinking is not gonna help in the long run thanks!
and you gain energy when you consume dn anyway so like the extra mutilate doesnt really hurt much
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you want to be consuming as many marks and DNs as possible over a fight
delaying is always bad

except when you need to apply to a specific mob like in court
Sorry for spam but 1 more q - if I'm in raid and there's a mechanic coming in like 9 seconds and I have burst window of kb + dm would you send it even if you can't get full uptime during it or just wait till you have a clear window?
depends on the specific context
@coral ibex you do shiv between kbs in keys, for the record
if you can get a full use by delaying and it also doesnāt cost you a use it can be better
no itās worthless in aoe
excuse me lol
Ah yeah so basically main thing is making sure in a fight you use all the CDs you could
That makes sense
nothing i said is blatant misinformation
itās all correct
shiv is worthless in aoe
youre both right
itās also true that shiv is worthless in aoe
shiv doesnt do anything in aoe but you still can slam it for prio
please hop off my dick buddy
and you use it in single target
why should it be bad in m+
or is that some m+ andy stuff once again cuss they think that it marks a target and that you need to ST it then lol
u dont get it
the trinket that stacks in half a second
and gives a lot of a nice aoe stat
is bad in aoe
XD

like, i think most people think that its legit "you proc it and then need to single target 1 guy until its fully stacked"
when its just "it procs once and 1 sec later its fully stacked cus of all the aoe stuff going on"
going off the wording on the trinket, it seems like it'd be bad
but apparently it's fine
ye
my problem is that people apperantly dont know how it really works, but are then VERY confident with telling somebody else if its good or bad

Its only bad when it procs like 1s before a target dies
But other trinkets are bad if they proc like that too
thats every proc trinket tbh
So it doesnt really change anything
no
procs that give a buff to you are fine in that situation
procs that debuff a target suck
well, yeha you can get a stat proc and have a couple sec into the next pack
but thats not a big deal either
It does give you a buff though
i mean i literally explained why I hold cds on sikran for like 5-10 extra seconds at the start
i mean it gives a buff relevant to one target
just slam on CD and dont get mechanics

yes? if your marked target dies you have to restack it
no
i mean even if you don't get mechanics you can't hit him for like 3-4 seconds during your kb window while he dashes for blades
no
its a buff on yourself
itās not tied to the specific mob triggering it?
What you lose if your target dies early
Is that you wont get the refresh after 10s
So it will not last the entire 20s
No
but yeah this is what i do on rash and she gives me fuckin webs every. single. time.
only pulled 1.37k yday at 625 ilvl bc she gve me webs like 3 times 
the trinket marks a target, everytime it takes dmg you get a crit buff
all your dots stack it up, that why "spyglass is bad in m+" is so stupid, its actually good there cus the mark procs and all the dots/aoe dmg stuff fills the sstacks in 1-2 seconds and you have a big crit buff now
tbh, if you are lucky you can still melee her
unless your paladin takes that spot
not on first webs
with their 30000000 yard range on everything
w90
i dont belive you unless we get a cat pic now
but yeah on first webs our mythic group puts them like 20-30 yd in front of her so nobody gets web instakilled
cat tax
instead of to the side
kinda wish we put them on the side so i could melee
and on 2nd webs someone took my melee spot
so i had shitall for uptime
ya
side is good
but on like the 3 pulls before kill i had like 1.55m
so sadge
goodbye my 99%
didnt want you anyway
bet
my partner sent me one while i was at work
I might be dumb I thought the guy linked a kyveza log and you were talking about kyveza
WTF
melee doesnt seem to get portals anyway
Theyāre so cute
Same
the tricolored one is sleeping in my arm as we speak

10/10, would cuddle all day
Wait tryan
I have copious George pictures for you
george,,
omg yes
yo is it bad that im at 40% mastery but 28% crit even tho i have most of the BIS but not at max level BIS
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
oh cool thankyou
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gambling is always fun
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anyway to reset the deathmark windows on the LE WA?
I have M skardyn & M Ikkaj crystal, i got spyglass M and H mandate on vault, should i take 2k dps up in form of spyglass or mandate for shit n giggles and big numbers in some cases š
whatever blows your hair back is clearly the name of the game
probably mandate since youve already got a myth passive trink but whatever u want lole
the dam diff between spyglass and crystal is pretty cosmetic
so 
I am an idiot
hi an idiot
play with m+ talents?

might as well just stick to outlaw
I bet you socket is a bigger upgrade
im gonna try it on princess
this time i'll start with ambush 
i do prefer outlaw tbh
I'm full socketed.
Damn dead to me Smdh
smh my head
ig its a spyglass angle
Itās actually suck my dick, homie.
I forgot who said that one
But it fucked hard
guys whats the item called which adds sockets to neck
magnificent jew


Wanna finish this one Mikedawg
search it on the auction house and you will find what you desire

what is the best trinket to run in m+ with skardyn's? i see most ppl are using empowering crystal, but wowhead guide says deadeye spyglass is bis, but its ranked below sacbrood in the rankings
whichever one you get on myth track
crystal is probably best
it's like the same thing, sacbrood and knife are very close too
they buffed fire again
GIGA
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guys my sim says i should be able to do 1.1mil ST but i struggle to maintain 900k at the best, what is the biggest thing which might be holding me back
in keys? or raid
training dummy
in keys i go under 900k
do a training dummy sim
theres a setting on raidbots to sim a dummy
your lack of a shaman, warrior, druid, demon hunter, monk, and hunter is holding you back
ah wait nvm no zoldyck
its the raid buffs then yeah
pretend to be a girl
simming dummy also automatically disables all the buffs
well in keys if its a longer fight like first Stonevault boss i maintain around 850k
this is not relevant brotha
you cant sim having 8 different raid buffs
against a m+ comp that can have a maximum of 4 of those for u
if you want to compare your dps to simdps
sim dummy and smack dummy
any other gameplay to sim comparison is not very good
any1 on na wanna be friends
ok screw the target dummy, i should be doing more then 850k maitained in keys
it's just gonna be like that dawg
whatever you think you "should" be doing relative to what your sim is doing
is an irrelevant feeling
unless again
its a dummy sim vs dummy dps
thats it
i did like 2.6 overall in this stonevault 10, still only 950k single target
well yeh
thats about it tho
that and ttk
but then its ttk without dashing or blindside for energy
so like
eh?

You are good for prio dmg
thanks i know
I've been taking TTK instead of sudden demise
Be humble king
lowkey if you are female nelf and adjust the way you write in chat your chance to get items traded in pugs goes up
(i have empirical evidence)
yeah its good and fine
just not quite as big as raid
In what scenario do you go sudden demise over twist the knife?
or would you swap master assassin for sudden demise in any scenario?
when you want more aoe instead of more st
or for the execute in low keys when things die omega fast
isnt it just that poison application chance is more frequent?
ya
more poisons also = faster kingsbane / amp poison stacking
so its not like "just poisons" isnt a lot by itself aswell
yeah i see
for buidls where ii dont have MA /double vanish, what do ii use vanish on?
e.g. necrotic wake
since i guess vaniish iis pointless to use during CDS
since no MA
iām not sure why this build would exist in the first place
š¤·āāļø just following wcl/archon
but you would still vanish for imp gar / carnage / IW
im not good
donāt do that
follow guides
the problem with looking at the most popular talents is that people are stupid

but regardless
thereās a lot more than just MA
i donāt think you ever have an m+ build without at least carnage+imp gar
and imp gar alone is still enough to vanish for cds
you just vanish gar before/early into dm
rather than end of kb
n carnage is just kinda insane aoe dam acceleration on chainpulls + iron wire for casters goes nuts
in wake you want to use it for aoe silences on amarth and maybe necromancer packs
or save it for aoe setup if you are caught without stealth
You donāt really need to vanish in cooldowns. Itās really minmaxy and not the best use of vanish in dungeons
yeah no i always have imp gar and IC
but some builds for some reason drop the double vanish + mA
idk why
whats the best use then?
chain pulls?
losing the mark or for another use of iron wire
i mean its fine to do so
you can play a lot of different things
chainpulls/iron wire/mechanics/on cd for damage even without cds
there is no strict best use of vanish in keys
its a very diverse cooldown and the simple answer doesnt really exist
just use it when you need it ezpz
literally this lol
im still new to rogue soi dont have the feel for when to use it yet
my default was just wait for last 1/2 of kb
if you dont have a feel then probably just use it on cd better than holding
generally you slam vanish on cd
holding vanish should be done with a specific plan in mind
if you are at the point of comfort/dungeon knowledge that u can tell yourself
i dont want to vanish here so i can use it better for utility 30 seconds from now
then do so
otherwise
send on cd
youll figure it out 
im holding vanish because my tank doesnt know shit and is chainpulling or doing other funky stuff 
Based
Hold vanish to chain cheap shots when needed
That's one use it do lol. I generally don't use it on bosses unless mark is needed
you eventually learn to identify "i should vanish here"
and then you just press it
WAT makes this super easy

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can shattering sweep on silran be cloaked then stay hitting boss? https://i.imgur.com/aVpgnjH.png
with shadow dmg i assume it can be cloaked?
use first second of cloak
it can with first sec yeh
so wait until less than 1 second left on cast
nice
ty
Uff knowledge acquired XD
Well yeah. If all other abilities are on CD and you need to interrupt a mob that can be stunned why not?
Twilight beguiler need that interrupt lol. And the enforcers can be stunned so they lose stacks, incase you don't have shiv
thats a good example of a double vanish dungeon
Is sanguine blades better than Sudden demise in m+ 10?
just garrote though
/ just hold shiv

but yea it doesnt really matter either way
I don't run iron wire in high keys
ah one of those
L
your usage of vanish does not matter to me
imagine not playing iron wire in gb
because your opinions in general do not matter that much to me if you arent playing iron wire
in a caster spam dungeon
lol
you are going to such lengths to just end up in the same place
vanishing for a caster
but worse, by a lot

its fine
the 2% damage will be why you finish key in time
people who dont play iron wire esp in high caster dungeons have less value in their words
I don't play sudden demise either
What so you think about the no sbs build?
You have to seriously don't understand GB if you ever choose to not run Iw there
Feels like shit
it's like numerically fine i guess but ew
my tank would castrate me
A bit eww yeah
gameplay is soo much smoother with sbs
Tried the bleed build a bit in 10-12 range, was kinda fun
The joy of sin this patch you can run w/e it's more or less the same outcome
damage wise yes
but then you have people come in and tell you to trade OP utility for damage
by dropping iron wire
and you want to put your head into a woodchipper
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and not even a lot of damage
But my overall bro? What's the point of finishing a key if I don't get my .05%??!
nah bro, every bit matters in high keys
just get good
I feel like dropping IW in GB, NW, SV etc at high level is trolling
Donāt listen to Varas, he doesnāt even do high keys
it is lol
Especially if youāre pugging, those extra 5 seconds of no casts going off is heaven
I mean it also depend if you are pugging or not. IW is dropped in coordinated teams on some dj because it is not needed. But in pugs? Yeah inting
In low keys IW is basically the majority of a pull
I mean the groups pushing 15s and up are playing Prot Pal and Aug and are full pre-made. In that environment I can understand dropping IW
Im struggeling on st in keys.. what is the secret? I finish bosses on like 850-950k ish
If i had an issue I'd swap š¤·š»āāļø i don't though
Not really any secret, sin m+ boss dps sucks.
We suck in ST M+ that is the secret
we have to drop a lot of really big st talents
to get aoe dam for our m+ build
its unlucky
Thatās fine for m+. 1 mil usually the sweet spot
Even if you compromise, st will still suck

Okay Big boy
Whatās the highest numbers everyoneās hit here with opener btw? On aoe ofc
like 10m
Okay thanks
Not always you can triple DPS and pug 15s
And around 12-15
12-15m
Most augs do no damage
checking logs after a run and seeing the aug with 40%ebon might uptime and less dmg then the healer :3
Had an aug in my SV earlier doing 1m, I think thatās respectable
Yeah they are still stuck in DF mindset while good aug now do a good chunk of damage and should be second dps
Yeah bro was an insane player
Looking at prescience and ebon might uptime is not a good way to see if they were good or not in TWW
I mean he was 620 in a 13 I think he did fine
if they did that low dmg you wouldnt play them
youd actually get capped by dps instead of survival
I donāt play them, I play rogue
Pug, not my group
you just said you did
I donāt play them
Aug are not even an improvement on team damage if not mdinteams would run them. They are utility bot with medium damage but most aug you see do sub par damage
Just feels like a lot of bad players can hide behind playing aug
Itās definitely rare to come across a good aug
Janna need skills. Yuumi though
I mean my raid group has one, but even he swaps devastation for some fights in raid
Aug gotta be the most boring class surely
The top runs usually have the aug do roughly the same as the frost DK
But again, top runs
The average one is not doing it
Yeah in my previous message I said they are second DPS
EU looks like it's fallen out of love with frost dk
And that most aug are boosted/stuck in DF mindset and doing subpar
In 14/15 I actively avoid them. Not worth it in most dj
cheers
pvp lmao
January
Same for Bruto if you want to get gold to buy it
after the first 100
As soon as you get 100 token you start to farm them exponentially
Calculus
This dude is 12
after the first 100 you can farm them whenever you want
Exponent is algebra
ALL weekly quests award tokens
i'm actually elon musk
Making money isnāt an excuse to not learn
how do you sim for high keys 12+?
i thought you didn't care about usa, why are you hoarding our money
any difference to keys below 12?
there we go
as everything lives longer
Youāre an engineer who doesnāt know math?
^
the same, things might live "longer" but there's still a timer to the dungeon, everything has to be cleared in 30 mins
Can we ban the trolls in chat
so dungeon slice on raidbots still?^^
yup
Cheers

Heās an arab prince, let him whale

!ban @strange python troll bait
always dslice for dungeons
LMAO
chill guy is also the worst meme of all time
Youāre telling me his discord account was made less than a month ago?
Something tells me heās been banned a couple times before

@balmy condor what did i miss
Some herb showed up and said Americans should die and Arabs are scum, most low quality ragebait ever
jake will not be missed
So he got the boot
Canāt wait to meet kyle in a month
I wish I could Meat Kyleā¦. @blazing jewel
Same king
he's in beans land now
Who is Kyle 
They sent him to North Dakota?
Scana
Nah Great Britain innit

USA beans being eaten by the bri'ish


import these beans bud 
Oh my, what a big, girthy tariff you have

Hey king







question for queen ansurek
what packs in p2 do yall pop cds on
i saved for p3 and ended up only #4 overall dps (top boss dmg) bc i just.. spent like a minute and a half not using cds
hey guys i just played with assa on m+ and he stuns all adds for 10s i think , what talent is that ?
u mean for the orbs?
there's a thing that makes blind AoE
disorient
dmg breaks it tho iirc
dmg didn't break it
does anyone hvae a plater mod that sets nameplate color based on missing dot, but also accounts for pandemic?
Assassin canāt do that
AoE silence
And AoE blind of talented
If*
But damage breaks blind
do you guys use kidney shot in m+? sometimes im out of kick and blind but i want/need to cc a casting mob. but wasting cp on this feels bad imo
wait can kidney shot be broken by dmg?
imo no
no its a stun
oh sick
dont use it then idc
what answer do u want
kidney shot is a long stun
tf does "imo no" mean lol
sometimes its good, sometimes its whatever
this was the answer on "can kidney shot be broken by dmg"
ah
ill use it as a "oh fuck my mates are useless" button on important cast
but didnt know if i should, or spend it on rupture or CT
the resources you spend on it really arent that big of a deal in m+
energy is fake and cp is like 1/2 fans
you lose 2/3 dps gcds instead of 1 like other classes, big deal who cares
if the stun was good it was good
no point stressing about it
ty, that was the case indeed, i was stressing 
is void reap kinda ass for keys or?
hi can we use oils on our weapons? and if yes which one we looking for?
yeah contract
Algari mana oil.
Whetstone is best.
And kobold oil is pretty decent as well, and free after the quest
Not a fan personally
ty

there is whetstone and weightstone same attk power but diffrent duration
no
weightstone is for blunt weapons
whetstone is for sharp
you can't use weightstones on daggers
same duration same attack power for both
ahh kk ty
whats macro /use for tinket and which trinket is which number
upper trinket slot is 13, lower is 14
14 is the correct one, only savages put their active trinket on 13
whats the input for the macro look like
#showtooltip Deathmark
/use Deathmark
/use 14
Shut your beautiful lips
WRONG

Or Iāll shut them with mine (Iām sorry)
hello i suck hard on boss in m+ content 13/14 , any tips boys ?
change specs
yeah i think its me being bad tho , or i didnt understood some mono concept
maintain garrote/rupture always, kb every minute, deathmark/vanish every 2
nah, assa ST in keys is just not that good
shiv every 30 seconds
every minute your shiv is during kingsbane
ggwp
spam envenom
Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.
- No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
- 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
- You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
kobold oil is bubbling wax?
ye
!gcdcapsinbuild
i've cooked it
CMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMmZmZMzMYAAAAAAY2GsNDAAAAAAxMzMzMzYMzMLz2MzMzAMzMGzsZbmBAAAEACgFA this build and you only ever build with FoK / Gar should technically have max apm

did the hybrid build change in the last few weeks? i see on wowhead now it picks up without a trace rather than recuperator/supercharger down the middle
CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeMjZmZGmhHYAAAAAAY2GsNDAAAAAAttMzMMzMYmZWmtZmZwMzMzgxMbWGzAsZWGYALBLDTghFA
u can try this for m+, more focus on bosses
CMQAKdezd4ze564f6ze54f65ze4f65ze4f6zefzefzefzefZEEEEEEEAZEDAZFAZF4AZ56F4A654GA65Z4G6A54G65AE4G65A4EG65A4EG65465 this is not talent page i just sneezed mb
when are we taking sudden demise over twist?
when we want sudden demise š
same
so always. got you

Pad this pal 
whats taken instead of sudden demise?
depends on dungeon
i cant see where it swaps
I think iron wire⦠for me any way.. no sd or ttk
sadist with no ironwire
m+ players are just a different breed man
i like not taking iron wire with fotm pala tanks, if i will suffer a fotm player, they better do all the kicks

really?
I just feel safer⦠keys are more likely to brick from casts going off compared to not doing enough damage⦠thatās what Iāve been telling my self anyway
true
if you dont take IW you're a padder
maybe i should just take
aye, i hate fotm rerollers 
T R U E
SB over IW
very based chat
kekw
VV over IW 
jokes aside, i even took iron wire in city of trash







