assassination

[snow kindle]

[wild thorn]

i think 300 pulls on mythic queen is worse

[balmy condor]

300 pulls on queen you're making progress though

you're working towards something

you do 300 siege of boralus

[coral ibex]

yea a fucking menty b

[balmy condor]

for fun

[coral ibex]

300 pulls on current queen at least

[balmy condor]

like I get wanting to hit like 3k or something

setting a goal is cool

but then like

stop at some point

[wild thorn]

i might to switch to ffxiv

the real game

[coral ibex]

based

[balmy condor]

it's chill tbh

couldn't get into the endgame cause time and it didn't hook me

but vibe game fr

[coral ibex]

im trying to balance silken court prog and FRU prog

[gloomy heart]

Raid was over on my alt mage and i pulled and said "watch my parse" this warlock got mad and when raid was over i said "i love you" and told him to say it back and i get this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1013755325482029117/1311554320298147890/image.png?ex=674947a5&is=6747f625&hm=9a47412724d38858a777a90a11d8489865bcafbe0ade3c77eb1bdc13a8d1c4d0&

[coral ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/northernlion-scream-persona-gif-1954147571111799445

[coral ibex]

highly recommend giving it another try

the high end raids are sick

[wild thorn]

or i might just sell my pc and enjoy life

[balmy condor]

based

[coral ibex]

[wild thorn]

gaming kinda boring

[coral ibex]

yes dude log off

[gloomy heart]

no dude

[balmy condor]

ascend

[gloomy heart]

shutup and go hit the training dummy

go parse the dummies

and enjoy it

[wild thorn]

ive never hit target dummies

those are for pussies

[gloomy heart]

Wrong

[wild thorn]

i hit bosses

[balmy condor]

I hit dummies for like 8 hours during legion when I was new and a shitter until I got good

and now I spend all my dummy time testing bugs

[wild thorn]

and fight mike tyson miniboss in necrotic wake

[balmy condor]

fuck my life

[wild thorn]

i dont even know why i play this game

i dont enjoy it

its like dopamine tho

[balmy condor]

yeah

that's lowkey a lot of people

if I didn't have my guild and my friends

[runic hinge]

You got got tbh

[balmy condor]

I would've quit legit years ago

[gloomy heart]

just enjoy it 4head

[balmy condor]

honestly if it wasn't my job I would've quit years ago too

helping people is cool though

[gloomy heart]

cant show love anymore

[coral ibex]

only playing games when you actually like them is a huge hack

[balmy condor]

being with my friends is cool

chill vibes to just like

interact with humans

[spice spire]

Okay but picture this

[runic hinge]

I love playing wow but it’s so much better with the guildies and homies

[spice spire]

Maplestory

[wild thorn]

yea that phase has been far gone

[spice spire]

I also enjoy WoW again

[balmy condor]

is the fit drip or nah

[gloomy heart]

maybe go play some fortnite

[wild thorn]

i work go to gym and read or play games

[spice spire]

🥶

[wild thorn]

life cycle

uni about to start

endless cycle

[balmy condor]

[wild thorn]

cancer

[runic hinge]

💧

[spice spire]

Amen

[gloomy heart]

[wild thorn]

who the fuck birthed me on this earth bruh

boring as hell

[gloomy heart]

me

[spice spire]

Spent a year off wanted to come back and did

[gloomy heart]

first man to birth

it was me

[coral ibex]

thats a good life man try to find the beauty in it

[spice spire]

Now I enjoy again

[wild thorn]

who got you pregnant

[coral ibex]

billions have died having lived worse lives

[spice spire]

Me

[wild thorn]

skill issue

[vale shore]

behold! The roguestone dropped for me!

[gloomy heart]

your other dad

[wild thorn]

wtf

is that even good idk

[vale shore]

yup!

[gloomy heart]

i think its no bueno

[vale shore]

sims over skardyns

[gloomy heart]

you musthave a piss skardyn

[vale shore]

its another 619

[gloomy heart]

u need a REAL skardyn

[runic hinge]

It’s pretty decent

[coral ibex]

12k agi vs 7k mastery

[wild thorn]

main stat > crit

might take a break

[gloomy heart]

this shit some ass too

[wild thorn]

still got battlenet balance tho

[gloomy heart]

YOINK

[tame dome]

anyone have a good single target build?

[coral ibex]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[coral ibex]

yea pick one from any of these guides

[wild thorn]

i just look at warcraftlogs

[vale shore]

The Skardyns at 639 is a .4% upgrade over the Wrathstone at 619

[gloomy heart]

@balmy condor i did the opener but when i mut'd after rupture im full cp do i just shove envenom and go

[balmy condor]

yep that sounds like bone spike

if you're at 5 just envenom and cd

[balmy condor]

crazy how good wrathstone is tbh

[vale shore]

I know!

I cant believe I got one!

[wild thorn]

can you get it at higher than champion track

[vale shore]

you can get a heroic one from the cache

[coral ibex]

hero from the box

[gloomy heart]

if im in this situation, do i shove KB without dmark here and the next one i wait for dm?

[coral ibex]

626 wrathstone sims basically on par with 639 skardyn

[wild thorn]

its insane to me that people use their builders with 1-4 keys

[gloomy heart]

Just a habit

had it like this for so long

Since mop

[vagrant brook]

my builder is on spacebar

[wild thorn]

you need god

[gloomy heart]

Delete character

that is criminal

[runic hinge]

It’s cause I’m a boomer

[vale shore]

my spender is on a Rock Band kickpedal

stomp envenom!

[wild thorn]

i feel like the average player of wow is twice my age

so like 38

maybe 30

[gloomy heart]

i turned 23 yday

[wild thorn]

ur old as shit

[gloomy heart]

youre 19?

[vale shore]

WoW is as old now as the original Super Mario Bros was when it first released

[gloomy heart]

if dbl age

[wild thorn]

19

[gloomy heart]

im not old mf

[wild thorn]

ur old

ur over 20

smh

[gloomy heart]

youre abt to hit

20

LOL

[wild thorn]

yea next year bruh

[gloomy heart]

prepare for balding

grey hairs

[coral ibex]

oh that makes more sense

[wild thorn]

my hairline been receding

[gloomy heart]

oh no

[vagrant brook]

i was 19 in legion

[gloomy heart]

bald by 21

GG

[wild thorn]

ez

[gloomy heart]

some women like it so

bald!

[wild thorn]

ive been stuck for 5 years with the same woman already

[coral ibex]

i was also playing wow at 19

[wild thorn]

i hope i dont have to date again

too much work

[gloomy heart]

stuck? is it bad

[coral ibex]

was raiding icc

[gloomy heart]

maybe a bad word for that LOL

u like my gear? @balmy condor

[wild thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/chill-guy-just-a-chill-guy-chillguy-chill-guy-chill-gif-7380092655709947717

[coral ibex]

do kids even help middle aged women on their raid teams thru their messy divorces anymore

[warped flame]

guys, Im currently learning assa rogue, but I still didnt figure out when to use max cps and when to just send 5cps envenoms

[wild thorn]

i dont like wow cougars

[gloomy heart]

HAHA THIS WAS ME

in wod

[wild thorn]

they dont feel mentally stable

[coral ibex]

its so common

[slim pebble]

What a hell of a time that was

[coral ibex]

it was also me in icc

[vagrant brook]

when you have darkest night up you go max cp

[runic hinge]

Me at 16 talking a 42 year old man through his divorce raiding icc

[coral ibex]

one of our healers would tell me they liked my "nighttime voice" while her husband (our MAIN TANK) was LITERALLY IN VENT

[runic hinge]

Despite the fact I never had dated before

[warped flame]

tysm!

[wild thorn]

wtf is a nighttime voice

thats some groomer shit

[coral ibex]

i had to use a hushed voice because my roommate was asleep in college

[short night]

hey guys could you take a look at my log? first heroic queen kill on my rogue, imi pretty undergeared but want to see what im doing wrong, thanks 🙂
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/stormrage/elfsoles#boss=2922&bybracket=1

[runic hinge]

You’re 613

[vagrant brook]

you don't deserve a log review with that char name

[gloomy heart]

we cant tell you nothing

[runic hinge]

What you’re doing wrong is being undergeared

[gloomy heart]

go gear

[short night]

obviously you can analyze gameplay regardless of gear?

right

[loud dome]

1.46m overall in mists 10, is that ok

[short night]

no

really bad

[loud dome]

🥲

[gloomy heart]

Dont listen to him

Hes 613

1.4m is fine

[gloomy heart]

REALLY BAD

[loud dome]

tbf i didn't bother sending kb on a few defenders

[gloomy heart]

Show me breakdown

[loud dome]

pally was poping them

[gloomy heart]

CT a little low

and i dont play sanguine but its pref ig

[short night]

'you're smoking fucking cum

[void kestrel]

Is there a way to see in logs how many CP I had when I spent each envenom? My mutilate to Envenom ratio is off for most dungeons

[short night]

why does ilvl matter to look at a log

[gloomy heart]

Bro stop worrying abt what you do wrong

until you have gear

it wont fucking matter

[short night]

im trying to improve on rogue

[gloomy heart]

Then go gear

[short night]

how does that make any fucking sense

[gloomy heart]

If you gear and do fine dps

then you know youre doing fine

[short night]

if i am doing things correctly, i will be better once i get gear than if i dont do things correctly then get gear

[gloomy heart]

if youre doign terrible

then who knows

[short night]

sure man ill just faceroll 1234 ujntil i get 630

great idea

[gloomy heart]

yeah good idea

[loud dome]

fair point. i things were dying super quick so i was more focused on making sure iron wire is on everything 😄

[short night]

they should give you smartest guy ever award

[coral ibex]

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/NY9CWzGMVDxJhZb8/48/645

[short night]

you are a genius

[coral ibex]

read this

[short night]

oh i didnt know ass rogue had an up to date wowanalyzer profile

ty

usually most specs are out of date

[coral ibex]

idk if its up to date but it will visualize dot and buff uptime for you

which is really all this spec is

upkeep garrote and rupture and envenom

where did you kingsbane during p2

[vagrant brook]

you fucked your second burst window cause you used deathmark and kingsbane and the boss moved and you didnt hit it for a while, so no KB stacks, and then you wasted a kingsbane on the add that knocks you up the platform cause you used it too late so it died too fast for KB to have any value
besides that seems good

[loud dome]

yeah, your 2nd kingsbane is way late

[short night]

yeah i was a popper and got some unlucky mechanics so that dm + kb where i moved was unlucky, but yeah i have nO clue what cds to use on what on p2 and p3

what should you use cds on as p1 is ending?

i just have no clue

expeller?

[coral ibex]

i kb the non-shield add on the 2nd platform

the one that does the line blast

[short night]

so you KB queen as p1 is ending then go again on 2nd platform?

i wasnt sure if kb keeps working if she disappears t phase

and then both cds on p3?

[coral ibex]

yea

[loud dome]

you have time, but you have to send on cd through p1

[coral ibex]

you gotta kb something in p2 or you lose a use for sure

[short night]

yeah i was just guessing at that point

ty 😄

[coral ibex]

its hard to know who is gonna blast what in a pug

i usually just default to whatever the highest hp mob is when i wanna kb

[vagrant brook]

usually dm-kb during shield in p1, then kb some add in p2 right after knock up, then dm-kb when p3 starts

[coral ibex]

i dont kb under 80m in raid

[loud dome]

dude on heroic those intermission things have like 50mil hp

they die in an instant

[coral ibex]

yea you gotta be the first one to hit the mob

but its better to get half a use than lose it entirely

[loud dome]

true

[coral ibex]

bc you have to hold DM at the end

and the longer you hold kb in p2 the longer you have to hold DM in p3

for kb to come back

[void kestrel]

Is there a way to see in logs how many CP I had when I spent each envenom? My mutilate to Envenom ratio is off for most dungeons

[coral ibex]

wowanalyzer can show that

im looking at it rn

[boreal matrix]

just got rank 1 on ovinax

quelthalas on top PogU

funny to see

[coral ibex]

gz

damn you got a lot more CT damn than me

and singular focus

your warriors did you a good service

[boreal matrix]

they did

that raitenz guy was blasting but the stupid mf died

hes my pal

i got to do massive caustic dmg

[coral ibex]

yea im looking

your boss lived for only 40 more seconds

but you got to do so much more damage

[slow marsh]

QT on top is crazy

[coral ibex]

compared to mine

[boreal matrix]

China? Russia? EU? Nah, QT

Chile on top 🇨🇱

[coral ibex]

your log looks more like an m+ run and mine looks like a cleave fight

465m caustic is so funny

[boreal matrix]

we killed princess yesterday but one guy put shadow on wrong spot killed half the raid

that gray parse is hurting my soul

[coral ibex]

lol i feel you there

my only kyveza kill is at enrage and had to play super safe

huge 33

[short night]

are you qt as a meme or actually from argentina

[wispy epoch]

my healers scare the fuck outta me on ovinax

literally sitting at 25% hp with full absorption for like 10 secs

[rotund oak]

yes but u have domain expansion jutsu

[wispy epoch]

expand your domain

[boreal matrix]

im from Chile

[short night]

bbased

[boreal matrix]

its besides argentina

skinny country

[short night]

fuck elon musk

didnt he try to fund a coup

in chile

to take your lithium

for his stupid ass batteries

[boreal matrix]

yeah he did

hahahaha

[rotund oak]

[short night]

piece of shit

[rotund oak]

didnt know that

he's a criminal

if he did that

[short night]

chile is based

[short night]

pretty standard capitalist behavior, basically the entire global south is constnatly couped/controlled by US interests

but chile has a pretty strong social govenrment i thin right now

with nationalized industyr

fuck elong mutt

[boreal matrix]

yes, previous goverment would have definitly accepted

[wispy epoch]

alright take it easy fella @short night

[short night]

..?

[rotund oak]

thats pretty much everywhere rn,but organizing a coup.. im less excited for musk now

[short night]

sorry im against violent coups staged by the US to take resources from people

where do u guys think elong musk gest his rib cage widening cream?

[pure moth]

rogue chat has certainly changed

[wispy epoch]

fr

[rotund oak]

u see yellows here,its a bad sign..

[pure moth]

generally, yes

[wispy epoch]

bro ive been here for like 3 months

[wispy epoch]

also gonna need more context there buddy

[pure moth]

yellows got a bad rep

[spice spire]

Damn

You can’t say that Kriz

[pure moth]

Why not? i dont like the spec lol

[short night]

us imperialism is a destabilizing force that sustains all it has with exploitation

im in full support of the chilean government and @boreal matrix

[craggy ruin]

boyz

call of the brood of the second spider miniboss of arakara, can you mitigate it with evasion?

[spice surge]

And feint

You will not dodge it with evasion no

[craggy ruin]

ye with feint i know you can

i said mitigate not evade

[spice surge]

Then yes? Using your damage reduction will make you take reduced damage

idk maybe im missunderstanding

[blazing pumice]

i believe it is magic, so evasion will dr it

[gloomy heart]

do yall like caustic on blood

[blazing pumice]

if you run bait and switch

[wild thorn]

is it worth using 2x kukri over the crafted dagger

[gloomy heart]

If its

2 myth

[wild thorn]

yea ofc

but its only like 3 ilvl

i got 3 extra kukris in my bag

[gloomy heart]

i dont run ascend

[wild thorn]

nobody in raid needs them

i should probably craft 2x dawnthread

[short night]

why is kukri good exactly? the vers?

[lavish whale]

Crit plus 639

[jaunty lotus]

And easy to get

[winged widget]

just the 639 ilvl.
if you got a m+ myth track dagger on your vault, it would be the same thing pretty much.

[spice surge]

3 ilvls on offhand is practically irrelevant

[winged widget]

more ilvl on MH = good

[gloomy heart]

had a good parse too

sadge

[wild thorn]

love fiber

finally got it installed

[subtle tundra]

she doesnt love you back..

nvm

thats me!

[spice spire]

But I love you

[subtle tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/im_in_unbearable_pain-gif-19322763

[manic sphinx]

i think i been doing my shiv kingsbane wrong. if i only have 1 shiv, then i should be using it during kings bane, not before, right?

[wild thorn]

i hit it at 8s

[worthy timber]

If I have a 606 iL skardyn's grace and a 619 iL mad queen's mandate (both on use trinkets), which should i be using with Deathmark?

[manic sphinx]

ya thx, did it in a couple runs and finally hit 1m dps overall. i thought it was shiv, kingsbane - but im not playing the 2 charges things (or should i? :o). thx for confirming

[short night]

wont you miss the last ticks?

[spice surge]

Mandate doesnt do more damage during deathmark

Skardyn makes you do more damage

[wild thorn]

when i see the 8 and hit shiv its gonna be at 7s

[spice surge]

So you definitely want to use skardyn

[wild thorn]

it kinda comes automatically now

dont really have to think aboujt it

[worthy timber]

good deal. thank you @spice surge

[short night]

i usually do this but it makes tea whiff by 1s

so i delay to 6s now

🤷

[wild thorn]

i dont think i even hit tea when i shiv half of the time

[short night]

i just macroed it

the mastery buff is insae

insane

[wild thorn]

do we even hit it for the mastery buff

i think its just energy

[short night]

no its for mastery

during kb/dm

[wild thorn]

thats how i feel comfy in st fights

i save my teas for kb windows

always have like 1 up

if i feel like im starved

[gloomy heart]

i have shiv and tea macrod

[wild thorn]

!shiv

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[gloomy heart]

Yeah that

[short night]

same but if you shiv at > 6s your tea will whfif the last ticks of kb

🤷‍♂️

so i wait ane xtra global usually

before 2nd shiv

[runic hinge]

It isn’t gonna be that big of a difference

[short night]

14% mastery buff..?

[runic hinge]

Yes

[short night]

seems good?

[runic hinge]

The difference between using tea perfectly and only letting it auto tea is like .2%

[manic sphinx]

Is that on a sep keybind? I assume u dont wnat to hit Tea if your Shivving outside KB?

[runic hinge]

When would you shiv outside kb

[manic sphinx]

well, i dont have 2 charges, so i use it when kb has 30sec left?

[runic hinge]

Shiv in aoe doesn’t do that much

[manic sphinx]

yea, even in ST

I dont know if im playing it wrong. maybe i need the 2 charges Shiv - i saw whyspr vid and he said it was just QOL, and the icy veins build doesnt have it either i think

[distant helm]

Mythic court/queen you shiv outside of kb sometimes

As you delay cds anyways

[spice surge]

For raid ST you want 2 shivs

For dungeons no

[runic hinge]

You have arterial in raid build anyways

[spice surge]

Because in aoe its fine to not even use shiv outside kb

Its not a strong button on aoe since its only 30% amp to a single target

[manic sphinx]

I see. Yea, I only do M+

Okay, 1 less thing to worry about. Still learning!

[jade abyss]

Wait the shiv buffs does nothing with caustic spatter?

[spice surge]

Correct

As is the same with pretty much all debuffs in the game

Amp poison being an exception for some reason

[manic sphinx]

Sry another question - am i supposed to use finishers on 5cp? I usually wait to 7

[spice surge]

Yes

5 or more

(unless you have darkest night up)

[manic sphinx]

okkk, thanks - been wonderin gabout that. i think i been wasting cp, and time getting to 7

yea, unless darknest night

ok thx!

[jade abyss]

Was always thinking shiv = bigger envenom hits = bigger caustic aoe :/

[spice surge]

Yeah but it doesnt work like that to prevent stuff from double dipping

[polar jasper]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[short night]

does the "second" color of a 2 color gem count towards the meta gem?

[spice surge]

Like on court if you have both debuffs on them at the same time.

[short night]

or only the primary

[gloomy heart]

crazy how 1.4m on Blood is only 82 parse

tf

[spice surge]

The primary, aka the one in the name

But it also doesnt really matter

That primary gem is very weak and optimizing around it is whatever

Picking movespeed instead of the crit is very valid

[hollow gazelle]

we using grace and mandate in st?

sims the highest for me but just curious

[short night]

ah okay gotcha ty

[jovial idol]

It should increase the damage of envenom, leading to more spatter damage, no?

[gloomy heart]

no mandate

[jade abyss]

Sad.. but thanks :)

[spice surge]

It increases the damage of envenom yes, not the spatter damage

Because it spatters before the amp from the debuff gets applied

[short night]

nFzBVPnmqC8VoTtRr5bGa7HxSv02ANeBQgXRqU2nXHgrWjkXaI34p77St4HqtG0cunfuRX235F()DNDaBHhIrXjIWyEg0CG(7dxLWunr)MTcJ8IJItrltWOr0O5S8zP(yJhyA02YX1UDBREwDnDWdGpM4bTuJlWOb0zmm6b6uMKmlmllKprsItLKek3Nnl0dJUZlMd)LlyPbup24V57)hE24)grHEghoJoHLnohWh1KGr9zzGHG)bcQM2rIkHnhpdlnYT611XQBh3xqByYLbwNAG9ptldRPgwRcyB3PBhB3wUD60Z2EFw)ES4zjPFSidiLljdPPtyItJtWCrS3cwAgmkSAwMMMTXiQVVYN5UaJ0IksO2nOmV0WeWmNInGRkrqTf61Yr5oBm65yEafKY7UvsePuVPkF0gMIJTDpxmQfykmtOfm1Ov38n2KLR4W61bycz1cJcMZ9u8kjxLXIc(OKmNhkUZVOXpsbbbAZ4lgsFks1mhl93UwEVKu8CpJ7dUSDzxwAU6z0dpa0EmQlqPRJvpxqha(SCoFSCZnscIje6mnvenrPUsYTQqciuXqSLfqNhjKKWajHdDarCwQQ)NMhaDfcr(KuwgJl26x1CVA9QB8ikHffDxFj5RFvsGGZ1GRFMX3rtkE2aVr2YK1z9GzssankJDedINEOPQzA78xi2X)BSIa9TRxxi0oD941c(6N8Stdqt3OMfA52L(6p)s7Ha(2ozWkDifuLw3ajS0oSbkyXETPcy5iuTk464Y7SeQGyN6nyKkFGYj7Zx50M41KO4LAPSyZCBkd(V6qXFQhrVm1vhoIMgQ8sMI9Zxf1XcVV9eNTLEI05SZEE8rRSpHtn2ik7rELPpqYI159S3(R4unRzve81fs68Ltolyp7EGnJgYH1By4mOI9l7K5(y)5Pu127dMgoxF4k1sP7FcU3C5vqHjPEdQpqvw(pHCbwL9wnX)k0N9MjUM1V5vhvMRDwkD(VlAV3bknnyFStSUyX6MDayJpn5Wr6DV2sDMWTpt5tQ(fYUV(RIxFhRELR)TyudxBEttU5T8XzgWnAbHtmk(ze7ET8Mm4AX8sXXiHooxxf17TSa)W1gYZlEJQlnwhrDE)GbczLzPSw9QlPFTVdPUimV8m)EEZ8FLl(Fp

i made this to track garrote/rupture plater, but other plater scripts/mods also change color of mobs in keys to signiify stuff, how can i make this color change "higher priority" than the others?

[spice surge]

Same with pretty much all other debuffs

[jovial idol]

Wtf, that sucks

[spice surge]

Because otherwise you could have a situation like on court where it would double dip and be very silly

[jovial idol]

I would expect that it spattered the amplified poison/nature damage

[hollow gazelle]

yes it works like this. shiv only applies to the target that gets shiv.

[jovial idol]

I see

[jade abyss]

Complex poe mechanics D:

[short night]

is this ring bis? haste/mastery from siege

[spice surge]

You'd have shiv on both and their +100% dmg taken. Then you would cast a spell that did 100, it would do 100x2x1.3=260 to your main target and 260x0.4x2x1.3=270 to your secondary target

[wild thorn]

crit mastery ring from siege

[short night]

i meant crit/mast

yeah sorry

xd

that one

[wild thorn]

and crit mastery from gb

[short night]

scallywag

[wild thorn]

or just crafted ring

[short night]

i assuem crafted wep is better than 626 regicide? i was excited i got regicide lol

[hollow gazelle]

yeah just from il

if you get a mythic one though of course thats better prob by a very small margin

[gloomy heart]

nvm i think i got a 80 bc of killtime

[short night]

i need so many fkn crests man

[wild thorn]

is regicide better than kukri

[jovial idol]

I thought only the shiv amplify to apply to the main target and then the buffed envenom to do extra damage.

But now I know not

[jovial idol]

For assa generally yes, but sim away

[winter quest]

When it comes to doing keys (12s+) and tanks are chaining pulls, is it worth for them to let rogues get restealth or to continue chaining? This is assuming the rogue doesn't have vanish up. I'm curious about the damage loss if no restealth or if I'm just not seeing something correctly.

[jovial idol]

For main weapon always try to get the highest ilvl possible

[wild thorn]

continue chaining prolly

[jovial idol]

Off hand doesn't really matter that much

[short night]

whats the explanation behind this?

[jovial idol]

The weapon damage

[short night]

i mean

for offhand not mattering

as much

do all abilites specifically look at mh idmg

[jovial idol]

Attacks use the MH damage, off hand is just for stats

[short night]

last time i mained rogue it was dagger OH for faster poison xd

and sword mh

[winter quest]

Any idea how much damage loss there is if any?

[short night]

wish me luck

[spice surge]

Chaining when 1 mob has 4% hp left = really bad

Chaining when 4 mobs have 30% left = really good

Assa needs stealth to get their bleeds out

[jovial idol]

I think outlaw runs like that now, but it's like 0.2% difference between slow OH and dagger

[spice spire]

What about chaining when 30 mobs have 54%

[spice surge]

If mobs already have bleeds on them

[spice spire]

[spice surge]

You dont really need the stealth as you already have it covered

[spice spire]

I meant 4

But yeah

[spice surge]

Yerp

[spice spire]

Nice

Miss us eleem

[jovial idol]

When 30 mobs have 4% left?

[spice spire]

Yeah

Hell yeah even

[jovial idol]

Or when 4 mobs have 54%?

[spice spire]

Real questions

[subtle tundra]

youre so funny.

im gonna chain slaps to yo ass

[spice spire]

I always try to make my bbgirl Laugh

[spice spire]

[subtle tundra]

nothing can make me laugh

i was in depression mode last night

[spice spire]

What’s wrong king

[subtle tundra]

m+

[winter quest]

Got a tank saying you time the dungeon faster by chaining and that the damage loss for the rogue is worth to get faster time of the dungeon. Is he right?

For context, there were three pulls he did in a dawnbreaker that he'd chain with 2 or less mobs that were sub 5% hp into an LT or a new pack of mobs

[balmy condor]

yes

[grim jay]

!restealth

Hu

[balmy condor]

sub 5% is a bit trolling

but chaining is really good

[fathom oxide]

Idk anything about rogue but im here now potentially trying it out. Only experience with melee is SV 🤪

[balmy condor]

and a dps gain for you

[short night]

what the fuck do we do if they chain pull

and we're out of vanishes

just dont dot everything?

[winter quest]

You just rupture and garrote, figure it out ig xD

[grim jay]

5 ruptures manually

[short night]

thats diabolical

[grim jay]

Garrote only maintarget

[grim jay]

Its actually pretty fine

Because yknow

Its a dot spec

[subtle tundra]

nooooooooo i have DOT with the DOT spec

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[runic hinge]

Omg multi dotting

Insane concept

[subtle tundra]

actually i started loving chain pulls

cause i get to dot

[runic hinge]

5 scent of blood stacks rolling already is sick

[short night]

if you stealth you get to dot way easier?

[winter quest]

I just gotta make sure I hold onto vanish a lot now if tanks chain pull so that my dots don't get wrecked

[subtle tundra]

yes thats my problem

that dotting is too easy

[short night]

bro like sdoing it the old fashioned way

[subtle tundra]

yes

[short night]

😉

[spice surge]

Yes

[subtle tundra]

thats the spec i love

[gloomy heart]

is this better @balmy condor https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/17AkpyVnxDZJMGfv#fight=last&type=summary

[candid hull]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

• Energy just is low on the spec there's nothing to do about it
• Super Min-Max stuff includes avoiding the auto proc of tea (less than +0.2%, tea/shiv macro is optimal)
• Refreshing Envenom in pandemic instead of spamming it (mostly relevant for m+ without TTK, can be up to 0.5%)
• Otherwise nothing matters. Pooling before kingsbanes isn't important because of tea lining up and deathmark giving a huge surge of energy

[grim jay]

Or you just get better, elevate your gameplay and learn to actually deal with dotting manually

[short night]

i like the pattern of pooling to maximize envonom up time

[winter quest]

What's pandemic?

[short night]

its nice to have a few globals to relax

!pandemic

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[short night]

the pandemic math is very complicated depending on CP with rogue, idk how it works

but roughly 30% is correct

[grim jay]

Its actually a flat rule

Not really complicated

[spice spire]

Bro you can just say you have a mental Illinois it’s okay

[short night]

theres some bullshit on the maxroll guide saying theres extra math for rupture

idk if its rihgt

@grim jay

[grim jay]

Maxroll sucks donkey balls

[spice surge]

I mean its 30% of the dot youre applying

[short night]

why dont they just copy patse the wowhead guides there.

woudl be so much easier

[spice surge]

So yes its slightly different if youre applying a 6cp vs a 7cp

[subtle tundra]

CASIIQWJEPGUTDO

[spice surge]

But it doesnt matter much

[grim jay]

They did somewhat but also made them worse

[runic hinge]

They do they just run it through chat gpt first

[winter quest]

Refreshing Envenom in pandemic instead of spamming it (mostly relevant for m+ without TTK, can be up to 0.5%) tf does this mean

[spice surge]

[winter quest]

Oh wait I'm dumb, it really only applies to when you don't use TTK huh

[short night]

wowhead just fucking sucks as a website on a technical llevel. my laptop literally crashes if i have wowhead open too long, some sort of memory leak

it just sucks ass

[grim jay]

They did the thing that was popular back in school

[subtle tundra]

not me

they didnt do me

[grim jay]

They just copied what their neighbours had

And made it different so the teacher doesnt notice

[balmy condor]

F

[grim jay]

Can I tho?

[balmy condor]

also didn't I tell you

to unbind this button

[subtle tundra]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES

[grim jay]

Romania here I come

[balmy condor]

but yeah looks better

[gloomy heart]

LOL

[balmy condor]

you're committed to wasting your energy pressing that shit

[gloomy heart]

Yeah habit

[balmy condor]

I'll give you that

[gloomy heart]

ill break out of it

[subtle tundra]

if you unbind it, there cant be a habit

[balmy condor]

^

that's what I'm sayin

[gloomy heart]

I only parsed a 82

FUCK

[grim jay]

I cant open it because DATENVOLUMEN, is it poisoned knife?

[gloomy heart]

Mykill time was also

giga slow

[winter quest]

I think people normally take caustic splatter on that fight

[balmy condor]

yes

[gloomy heart]

LFG 🙂

yeah maybe i shouldve

[balmy condor]

oh

yeah you def should lmao

[grim jay]

Our other rogue used that on rashanan as he wasnt in range during Webs

Told him he will get benched if I see that again

[spice spire]

Tell him king

[jade abyss]

Hey whispyr i use your afenar edit, you can show me maybe where i can set that the remaining time from garrote becomes green when its improved?

[balmy condor]

there's a condition for that cause I use lisonnas

just make a condition

if all, empowered, time remaining <6, text 1 green

[gloomy heart]

dw guys ill 100 parse on lfr

[grim jay]

He was like "we are rekilling, wanna get all the damage out to parse" and, wise as I am, I told him that sometimes less is more

[spice spire]

[grim jay]

Why did you rename tho

I liked your previous name

[jade abyss]

Thank you

[jade abyss]

Question to this, i play with tkk in m+ so i spam envenom until i cant spam it anymore and then go into pooling energy ?

[wild thorn]

mobs show that they have mark but i still have darkest night up

tf

[winter quest]

My god the acronyms, what's ib?

[balmy condor]

no, you just spam until you can't spam it anymore, and then spam it

and then you can't

so you spam it more

[balmy condor]

internal bleeding I assume

[jade abyss]

Mistake im writing from my phone with thick fingers

[winter quest]

I was gonna say, running internal bleeding in m+ would def be trolling

[balmy condor]

well, do they have mark?

[winter quest]

I play with tkk in M+, normally I just dot and then spam envenom while maintaining caustic. You get so much energy from your dots that there's point in pooling energy intentionally.

ttk*

[jade abyss]

So it doesnt matter when i consume all my tea charges in one "spam rotation" x) ?

[winter quest]

...

You're using all three charges on one pack?!

[jade abyss]

No i mean single target

[balmy condor]

yeah that's fine

[jade abyss]

Not aoe @winter quest

[winter quest]

That makes more sense, I was so confused lol

[jade abyss]

In aoe i have so much energy i can feed my cats with it

[jade abyss]

[winter quest]

Mine always act as if they've gotten an endless supply of catnip. I'd never try to give them MORE energy

[jade abyss]

Aoe is no problem for me in m+ but i struggle in st i guess a lot and its annoys me when i try to run +12

[winter quest]

What do you normally end with on st?

[jade abyss]

Depends on boss

[winter quest]

Let's say first boss in GB

[balmy condor]

spec sucks in single target

that's the downside of the spec

live with it

[jade abyss]

Maybe 900k and i think its to less with 632

[winter quest]

Oh yeah I know that. My frost mage buddy ends with 1.2+ on st in GB and it annoys tf out of me

[runic hinge]

It used to be all we had

[balmy condor]

not really though

[jade abyss]

I mean i try to snipe sent of blood so much as possible

[balmy condor]

assa boss damage has always been not great in m+

you try to snipe what

how does one snipe scent of blood

[winter quest]

How are you trying to snipe scent

On a st fight

[jade abyss]

In pure st its not possible i know that

[subtle tundra]

how do you snipe scent.

[balmy condor]

yeah

forget st

how do you snipe scent

like as a concept

[jade abyss]

Forget the snipe its the wrong word for it

[balmy condor]

[subtle tundra]

yea you try to rupture additional targets when theres additional targets

[jade abyss]

I mean when boss spawn adds i try to keep sent stacks up

[subtle tundra]

that has nothing to do with scent or sniping

[winter quest]

I normally snipe scent on second boss in dawn with the webbed dudes

But that's the only thing I can think of regarding 'sniping scent'

[jade abyss]

I hate my english sometimes >.>

[subtle tundra]

sniping refers to using something on a dying add to generate resource/reset cds

usually

[winter quest]

Ohhh

I do that all the time on like the emissary xD

[subtle tundra]

huh?

[jade abyss]

Like i said i use the wrong word for it

[winter quest]

Refresh high rupture on emissary before it dies on st

For to get all my energy back

[balmy condor]

I feel like I'm having a stroke

[jade abyss]

But when sin sucks in m+ st maybe im not so bad as i think iam

[subtle tundra]

i wanna have a stroke 💦

[winter quest]

Sin really shines in aoe, unless your prio target dies within the first five seconds of popping CDs 😭

[hollow gazelle]

pick better target or dont use them i guess

[winter quest]

I just swap to outlaw for keys where that happens

[subtle tundra]

not using cds is bad advice!

[hollow gazelle]

i wanna main outlaw next season

[winter quest]

I never do

Assassination ftw

[hollow gazelle]

it is but if everything dies in 5 secs then theres no point at all

[winter quest]

You can still pop deathmark, just kingsbane will get no use

[subtle tundra]

oh i guess irrelevant content

[winter quest]

I'm talking about a 635 ilvl ass rogue going into a 3 or 4

Nothing lives long enough

[subtle tundra]

yea irrelevant content

[hollow gazelle]

stuff dies to fast in 10s let alone a 3 or 4 lol

[winter quest]

Yeah, I def feel that. They live long enough if you have two braindead dps, but if you're running with competent people, that definitely tracks

[fresh schooner]

is d-slice fine to sim with for assa?

[balmy condor]

yes

its the preferred fight style

[west crown]

plenty of time to get cds in 10s

[hollow gazelle]

i mean ive carried alot this expans too unfortunately, but when you get a killer group its hard to even get a full 16 sec off even on some of the bulkier prios like the gatekeeps in necro

[hollow gazelle]

no with good people you cant get a full 16 sec window off lol

[winter quest]

Not if you run with people who are doing 2mil+ overall

[hollow gazelle]

this

[west crown]

maybe not DM. but def KB

[winter quest]

DM would be fine, KB is a RIP for dmg

[nova python]

Hey, anyone mind taking a look at my logs (this is pretty fresh character so not much gear/tier set) and i wonder if im doing mistakes of its just low dmg = love parse. but i’m still coming back to rogue so learning 1st assa. Thanks in advance and pls mark me with answers! https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/silvermoon/Gíifxz

[winter quest]

I defintely feel that man, it's ass

Pun not intended

[grim jay]

Its a reoccuring theme wdym

[hollow gazelle]

always been that way sadly. i hope the mythic + bans arent going to ban good people for leaving a dead key with people who want to take 2 hours to finish for no rewards

[grim jay]

Thought you were battlehardened

[winter quest]

Wait, there are m+ bans coming in?

[hollow gazelle]

unfortunately

[grim jay]

For people that leave keys yes

[west crown]

only bans for extreme repeat offenders

[grim jay]

Or many keys

[winter quest]

Where's the link to that pls?

[hollow gazelle]

wow head yesterday

[grim jay]

In the wowhead news channel

[spice surge]

I mean its people that join a key and then instantly leave

[runic hinge]

Probably in your email I made sure to include you

[winter quest]

Found it, ty

[spice surge]

Before the 10s countdown is even over

Its not people leaving a key because its not timeable

[subtle tundra]

yea people misinterpret that

theres people joining keys just to deplete them intentionally

[hollow gazelle]

all of that is speculation. blizzard hasnt said anything except they are banning people who repeatedly leave keys. not when or the situations

[grim jay]

You mean like people in LoL running it down? Cant be

[winter quest]

Those are definitely that don't belong in keys

[subtle tundra]

its common sense

[grim jay]

The article literally says "Blizzard has announced" even in the preview

[subtle tundra]

if youre worried you might get banned cause of it, then you might be part of the problem

[winter quest]

They have, according to the blue post.

[hollow gazelle]

ah i dont think that was there when i read it when it came out yesterday

[hollow gazelle]

always leave when its untimeable unless its almost done. waste of time otherwise

[subtle tundra]

thats very very common

[grim jay]

Im worried

[subtle tundra]

what am i supposed to get from this

are you stupid

[hollow gazelle]

i wanna make a your mom joke so bad

[winter quest]

Then get yelled at for leaving when it's still timeable. Like, dude......there is 10min left on timer for this 10 SV and we're still on first boss.

[grim jay]

You know me for 6 years

Obviously I am

Why do you even ask

[subtle tundra]

if i pug and dont get into an argument with the other people, why am i even pugging

its part of the fun

[hollow gazelle]

especially anything over a 10. if it becomes dead just leave. you get no new gear or io anyways

[grim jay]

What if you didnt fill your vault yet

[winter quest]

You do gain something tho

Angry players in your DMs

[hollow gazelle]

ive actually never gotten a message lol. if your doing anything over a 10 they should know when its dead. i dont mean one wipe either. whenever timing is really into question

[winter quest]

I guess you're lucky. I won't normally leave a key until it's incredibly obvious it's dead and/or someone else leaves.

And I still get yelled at

[runic hinge]

Is this protein shake

[grim jay]

Creatine

[grim jay]

I like getting whispers

[winter quest]

I’ll whisper you 😉

[subtle tundra]

I THOUGHT IT WAS ICE

i have enough creatine

[grim jay]

Bro what

[subtle tundra]

IF YOU CLOSE AN EYE

THEN SQUINT THE OTHER

[grim jay]

More like of you close both eyes

[subtle tundra]

THEN SQUINT IT ENOUGH SO IT CLOSES

AND IMAGINE ICE

😎

its ok i forgive you

[grim jay]

Well honestly that one is kinda fine, so it might not look like your average powder

[rotund oak]

Closest to creatine was the stronganoff i ate yday

[grim jay]

If you just glance over it

[grim jay]

Dang, didnt know you were a russia supporter

(jk)

[rotund oak]

if thats supporting russia im a fanatic 😂

[grim jay]

Ngl I like a good paprika sauce instead

[placid radish]

is there a graph for a single cast rupture impact with 2 points of scent of blood depending on the amount of targets you are currently in combat with?

[grim jay]

I actually have no idea what you are trying to see with that

[placid radish]

what do you mean

to see some numbers

I like numbers

[grim jay]

Yeah but why

We know you wanna get 5 scent stacks either way

[subtle tundra]

theres like, infinite amount of variables

[grim jay]

With sufficient targets

[subtle tundra]

no way you can get an actual answer

[placid radish]

what variables

[subtle tundra]

like how many adds
how long it survives
do you want to aoe, st
your cds
how many dots are out already

[placid radish]

you could say the same thing about simming

[wispy epoch]

stroganoff who?

[cobalt sphinx]

what exactly are you asking for

the damage of only having 3 ruptures vs 5 ruptures?

[grim jay]

How

Sims run many iterations

[wild thorn]

wtf u cant upgrade trinkets to 639 for free if youve got one already

scam

[placid radish]

the difference in damage depending on target counts

[cobalt sphinx]

the difference in damage of what

what condition are you trying to test

[grim jay]

Thats how its always been

Because you have 2 slots

[wild thorn]

well i started playing this season

[grim jay]

So you need 2 trinkets

[wild thorn]

kekw

[placid radish]

rupture cast instead of second most valuable button press you can do

or vice versa

[rotund oak]

https://tenor.com/e2MbHW0fpov.gif

[grim jay]

Ye im just saying its always like that

For rings and your daggers aswell

[wild thorn]

yea makes sense

[grim jay]

Unless you do the craft thingy

[rotund oak]

also legit

[gloomy heart]

hello

[grim jay]

Henlo fren

[gloomy heart]

how are we

[idle meteor]

just curious, does anyone know why in logs for some people, it shows ambush in same global as mutilate but for mine it never seems to, not that it really matters. e.g.

[rotund oak]

my vaults suck,im sad

[quiet oar]

Hello

[gloomy heart]

means they got a ambush proc

[idle meteor]

i also only use ambush on ambush procs too tho

[grim jay]

You seem to not have unlocked your full potential. As a dual-wielding class you can perform one attack per weapon on a global if you are fast enough

You just need to animation cancel

[gloomy heart]

Well you asked what it was

That’s what it is

[grim jay]

Same

[idle meteor]

yeh i suspected thats what it was ty! its just weird why its not showing on mine even tho im getting and using ambush procs too

[quiet oar]

@grim jay Not even greeting me

He hates me

[rotund oak]

that makes us two then

[grim jay]

I kissed your forehead after getting up from bed this morning

[rotund oak]

[quiet oar]

Would you still kiss me on the forehead when i was a worm

[grim jay]

On both foreheads

[rotund oak]

intense feelings

[grim jay]

(jk, I know they dont have 2 heads)

[cobalt sphinx]

mutilate turns into ambush, so they are just pressing their converted mutilate keybind

[quiet oar]

[grim jay]

I mean, thats kinda what you expect in assassination, no?

[idle meteor]

i am as well haha i dont have a separate ambush keybind, im still just mashing the mut keybind

[grim jay]

I spent 120 on the eurojackpot, why didnt I win so far? Didnt you bless me?

[rotund oak]

thats just tiramil taunting you,he wants just s@x

[grim jay]

Tira is different

[quiet oar]

Well i did

but even when i bless you

its still 50/50

[grim jay]

Based

[quiet oar]

!?

[rotund oak]

you little manipulative slime

let my friend in peace

[grim jay]

They cant fool me with that 1:140 million crap either

[quiet oar]

????

Im just flirting !

[quiet oar]

Ye i mean you win or you lose

literally 50/50

[grim jay]

Ye its just like critting

[quiet oar]

True

[runic hinge]

It’s like fatebound flips

[quiet oar]

Also true

[grim jay]

I would prefer winning over critting tho

[tiny brook]

Is the very rare ring from last boss really that much necessary for assasination?

I see everyone doing guides where proc from ring is their main dps

[keen spruce]

not nessecary

but good

like it's the most damage

but it's not like it changes the spec or anything

[subtle tundra]

whats that supposed to mean

its 1% dmg

[tiny brook]

I see so I was wrong

Thanks for the info

[west crown]

its just 10k dps better over the next best option at same ilvl

[hardy dawn]

guys what's ur go to build for M+, i love master assa+double stealth+TTK

but i feel the lack of Sanguine blades

[subtle tundra]

🤨

you feel it?

[quiet oar]

[rotund oak]

feelings too strong man

btw i translate double stealth to double vanish

[balmy condor]

he feels the energy in aoe that isn't being eaten

bro is over-overcapping in aoe

[quiet oar]

True

Does drinking Monster increase my Energy regen whisp

[balmy condor]

no

[quiet oar]

[subtle tundra]

or he feels the talent not doing anything in ST cause youre energy starved regardless

[balmy condor]

feel this bud

[hardy dawn]

that's it basically

[subtle tundra]

i was omega sarcastic

[balmy condor]

sanguine blades has no impact in single target

wtf do you mean you feel it

it's purely an aoe talent

isn't even good damage on bosses or whatever

should be feeling BETTER without it

[rotund oak]

You should start a 3-part-vid series about the laws of thermodynamics.Energy and closed systems and all.Apply that ingame rogue mechanics

next lvl

[balmy condor]

perhap

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-erm-perhaps-sdc-thinking-gif-27461773

[grim jay]

Why is there no purrhaps gif

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/cock-gif-21519482

[placid radish]

https://tenor.com/view/perchance-mario-gif-2727939328805305567

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/vultures-2-kanye-kanye-cat-vultures-cat-yeezy-cat-gif-9457047933143294026

[balmy condor]

perchance I can

[quiet oar]

[grim jay]

I now want you to make a graph for rupture (with scent talented) value per cast for each different target count up until 6

[balmy condor]

got you

[subtle tundra]

dont fucking crush the turts

[subtle tundra]

really important to do to 6, so i can see the difference between scent of blood stack or not

[grim jay]

Dang you got it bro

[subtle tundra]

and analyze the difference in energy gain

[grim jay]

Thats why I like being here

The OGs are so smart

That I can stay dumb and they still get me

[balmy condor]

hope it helps

[grim jay]

Maybe I should spec fatebound and flip coins so that I can take the highest flip count I get to determine how often I should roll the dice so that I can press the random generator for the eurojackpot exactly that amount of times before I lock in the field

[quiet oar]

Damn it crashed harder than my will to continue

[balmy condor]

average cryptocurrency value graph

[grim jay]

Why is it dropping after 2.5 targets?

[keen spruce]

add scratch-its to fatebound tree

[subtle tundra]

so it starts losing value at around 2.5 casts?

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

energiewende

[grim jay]

[keen spruce]

gm whispyr happy thanksgiving

[balmy condor]

gm shmeepy happy thanksgiving

[quiet oar]

erneuerbare ?

[subtle tundra]

how does the number of garrotes applied affect the graphs, considering energy is a part of its value

[keen spruce]

I'm thankful for all of the work you do to keep our crayon eating rogue brains less dented @balmy condor

[subtle tundra]

what about having deathmark going

[balmy condor]

what about smd

[subtle tundra]

whats smd

[balmy condor]

suck my dick

[subtle tundra]

meow.

[grim jay]

Superduper mentally disabled

Oh wait

[tawny geyser]

I miss pins in this channel 😦

[balmy condor]

there's plenty of pins

[grim jay]

You can pin DN

[balmy condor]

in fact, there will be a new pin in a couple weeks

to say that the special 11.0.7 ring is utter dogshit

[tawny geyser]

Lol

[balmy condor]

and then blizzard will wake up

and be like

oh fuck

the ring is utter dogshit

and then buff it by like 75%

and then I get to pin a new pin

saying that the ring is giga bis

[tawny geyser]

So I got something to look forward to, great👍

[grim jay]

Nah it will be a "lets make it a 15% dps increase over max ilvl rings"

[keen spruce]

we all know they're gonna overbuff it a week before the patch drops

[quiet oar]

Sounds like you lived through this cycle one time already

[keen spruce]

and whispyr is going to pull all of his hair out

updating guides and pins

[balmy condor]

yeah it's almost like this expansion is just dragonflight

but they pasted over it with some fucking rock people

[grim jay]

Dragonflight had a better season 1

[tawny geyser]

Wait whats the starting ilvl of the ring? I didnt read much on it

[grim jay]

@ me

[balmy condor]

it doesn't have stats, so idk

[keen spruce]

imma be honest... I think the honey moon period is over for me since ocming back late. and I still like this M+ season

[balmy condor]

liking m+

holy