assassination

[rotund oak]

[slate crown]

why not both?

they all come of the same stuff

Diversify investiments

etc etc

Also vials often drift below profitability too

at least in NA

[rotund oak]

ive pushed 800 gilded vials just now

they vanished

in 2min

[slate crown]

well yeah

sell speed doesn't mean they're profitable though

but I know they are

They vanish because they're a high throughput middle process craft, like anything else

I've been crafting gilded vials for months, I know how they go 😛

[coral ibex]

sap when he realizes you can sell shovels to people that dig holes

[rotund oak]

yeah.. ive been doing that since the launch of the expansion 🙂 its not that easy if u wanna squeeze gold

[slate crown]

yeah honestly selling mid-point crafts is huge early on, there's so much gold sloshing around

I got my transmute alch as caught up as it can be but probably some time before it's actually usable because it's so far behind

not enough knowledge

[rotund oak]

my next session will most likely be 3 times today's sale but im holding a bit back coz prices plummet

[slate crown]

Yeah I'm just cozy vibing, just getting supplies prepared for next reset, taking time with gathering, which I'm liking doing just because it means 0 expendatures, just my time, which is fun to do

[golden loom]

anyone noticed any kind of input lag today? game feels a bit weird

[rotund oak]

well welcome to my routine,since launch,i spend nothing and generate always,smol or big,i always win 🙂

[slate crown]

I just like that gathering can actually catch up, kind of makes me really mad how bad the catch up is for other profs

[rotund oak]

😉

[slate crown]

I'm not fully dedicating into it, the prospect mill is still rolling strong

[rotund oak]

casting doubt to how much u make

[slate crown]

But it's a nice departure

[rotund oak]

i think,prospect still has stuff ye coz u get the materials for vials as well

but in all,idk,gems

sus

[slate crown]

Considering I can do my dishes while prospecting so it's 100% afk, yeah it's nice

[rotund oak]

are u doing any ring/neck crafts at all?

no gains from there aight?

[slate crown]

no

[rotund oak]

im half done with the stupendously big gemcutting labyrinth but im getting mad coz its getting nowhere soon and there isnt rly so big revenue

[slate crown]

it's certainly dropped

it's late to be getting deep into it

I'm almost done, have 10/12 at guarnatee

[rotund oak]

I can only produce about 5 or 6 currently max rank

mostly those my rogue wants

and couple for my mage

[frosty bridge]

is it just me or did they make meld slightly more consistent in keys

i feel like im getting meld stealths of in combat more frequently since like last week

[halcyon forum]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[slate crown]

Also there are things craftsim doesn't account for in gem cutting specifically, and multi-stage crafts in general, which cause the gems to still lead to profits even if they feel like they don't based on the craftsim numbers

It's definitely deflated from what it used to be now, in the last 2 weeks, that's for sure

but it's still valuable

and if you're like 350 points deep into a tree, may as well continue it

[cloud basin]

is there a site i can compare stats on crafted pieces? I can only recraft 1 to max atm.

[deep gyro]

Raidbots-> gear section and manually add the items

[cloud basin]

well yeah i can sim it, but i wanted to look at the raw stat gain and pick from there since its dagger and belt

[deep gyro]

U can make different gearsets with what u want to compare and see there.

Stat gain is different to everyone’s character/gear simming it is the best way to make sure

[cold raptor]

my m+ groups tend to really struggle with ST damage. i can pump some decent aoe numbers but always feels luckluster against bosses. is it worth speccing out of some AOE talents to address that?

[ivory flower]

You can try to take off Iron wire

Try to take adds with boss whenever it's possible

Our St sucks when there is only one target

[subtle tundra]

No

[snow kindle]

i started doing this

[deep gyro]

MA is not better than SB?

[snow kindle]

not about being better

[deep gyro]

For st i meant.

[snow kindle]

yes it is 😭

[deep gyro]

I run the no sbs build cause it feels better like a better setup to me.

[ivory flower]

Does it pump in ST?

[gloomy otter]

hi , dont i wanna use the highest ilvl weapon on my main hand slot? why does the sim say to put the 639 dagger in offhand instead of the 636 in the main?

[snow kindle]

if you think you need more boss dmg yea it def aint better all round

[subtle tundra]

ma is a great st talent

[deep gyro]

Oh and no ironwire feels criminal. It reminds me of when boomie wasnt taking beam for more dps.

[subtle tundra]

esp with subterfuge

[deep gyro]

This all originated from how to get more st in m+.

[ivory flower]

You really need Iron wire in SV, NW and GB

You can play without with a good team in others dungeons

[snow kindle]

rogue talents are so flexible honestly it whatever you wanna do is practically playable aslong as you dont diverge from the main points

[sullen phoenix]

Guys on pure st boss is it better to play lethality or forced induction talent?

[snow kindle]

forced induction

[sullen phoenix]

ty "

!

[cloud basin]

interesting, guess i may make that swap

[sullen phoenix]

also on ulgrax is it crimson temp worth? on myth

[coral ibex]

no

[snow kindle]

shit is ass if your group is good

[sullen phoenix]

they melt

[coral ibex]

it’s ass unless you are hard carrying 15 other vegetables

[sullen phoenix]

aah ok 😄 tyty haha

[cloud basin]

Yeah even on brood I dont really take tempest since my group tends to melt them anyways. I do atleast put bleeds on the big spider though

[subtle tundra]

if you have time to put bleeds on big spider, you should take tempest

[deep gyro]

I didnt even do that i just tempest and funneled boss.

[coral ibex]

ct does big boss dam on ovinax

[deep gyro]

With the melee fuck train, adds died fast. So i just focused on boss dam.

[lethal turtle]

There is so many Ulgrax logs where they have only 3-5 ppl do dmg to them and rest afks. Like its a parse rotation weekly

[subtle tundra]

welcome to logging

[cloud basin]

its typically just rupture on one for the energy gain honestly. I mean i could probably parse better on it im sure lol

[coral ibex]

yea our warriors do as much add damage as boss damage

so wack

meanwhile i took the raid to gapplebees for boss dam

[cloud basin]

we have a lot of Ret pallies lol

[cerulean walrus]

Gapplebees is diabolical

[lethal turtle]

L type shit

[cloud basin]

But im still one of the top 3 dps in the raid though cuz Envenom goes hard LOL

[coral ibex]

[rotund oak]

Its valuable for sure,its just not as much gold i can make from thaumaturgy/tailoring at this point.Even engineer makes more gold for me rn.I dont generate the millions i did in the past coz prices are down the sh@tter but having invested on my gatherer since day 1 is definitely the best thing ive done till now.No matter how bad things get with the market,ill still make gold,smol but its gonna be a gain coz im not spending anything,just generate

[coral ibex]

i did like 150m more boss dam that’s a GAP

[cerulean walrus]

Real

[frosty bridge]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[lethal turtle]

is that the name from the guy in FFX-2

[coral ibex]

yea been using nooj or some variation as my name for many years

[lethal turtle]

read the name and instant flashbacked to the scene where she said it in game lol

[wispy epoch]

Imagine parsing on a fight that doesn’t count towards all-star ranks lol

Couldn’t be me

[vocal wedge]

Can any nice giga chad pro rogue check my log to see what im doing wrong.quick analize ❤️ pls https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/kXTpcPY4adwzMxDn#fight=10&type=casts&source=22&view=timeline

[novel star]

bleed uptime too low

shiv/vanish timing on cds wrong

[thorn fjord]

Been a while since a new pin

big sad

[novel star]

not going to 7cp with darkest night

[thorn fjord]

M+ greifers getting got yesterday was great though... I think one of our healers got got lolol

[thorn fjord]

Did they say how long the bans were?

[novel star]

this like 23 seconds of just sitting on dn not consuming it is real worrying

[lavish geyser]

is splatter from the target or is it from you?

[novel star]

target

[lavish geyser]

dman that is awesome

thanks

[vocal wedge]

Hmmm ty 😭

New to assa

[novel star]

shiv before you kb

[lethal turtle]

I wish it was 5 yards from the hit box circle 🙂

[novel star]

for the first charge

not after

[vocal wedge]

Ye that i allways forget -.-

Bleed and dn is the problem

[lethal turtle]

Dont worry it was a struggle with muscle memory for me too doing primarily m+ with 1 shiv.

Then in raid having 2 and just never using it pre KB

[gloomy heart]

do we like

[coral ibex]

just block me you weirdo

[lethal turtle]

no go back to t3 u fuk

[gloomy heart]

t3 got boring

[lethal turtle]

that shit looks like ur dwarf homeless

[shy nest]

I like ❤️

[vocal wedge]

With 1 shiv in m+ is at a half duration on kb but muscle mem ye😂

[crimson zephyr]

why is fok part of ST rotation for deathstalker?

[lethal turtle]

Muscle memory is a helluvah thing

[gloomy heart]

Nah i could look giga rich in 0.1 but i cba

[graceful solstice]

Clear the witnesses, hero talent

[lethal turtle]

Show off ur drip Phyce

[novel star]

yeah, when you have darkest night its literally top 1 priority to slam a 7cp envenom

you would rather drop rupture uptime just to get the 7cp envenom out

mark uptime is very important

[lethal turtle]

cause right now that dworf got a DAP and not a WAP

[vocal wedge]

Ye i saw that something was wrong but didnt know what :/

[novel star]

other than that bleed uptime is too low as stated

[vocal wedge]

Hmm triyng to not fall off ever but iv might nit payed much attention :/

[thorn fjord]

Sound cues could help

[crimson zephyr]

they don't use garrot if you havent shrouded suffocation?

[coral ibex]

no you just have to mutilate for cp before rupture

[rugged sphinx]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[novel star]

its saying if you dont have shrouded you need an extra mutilate to hit 5cp

[crimson zephyr]

ok ty

[harsh ravine]

Hello,

With the m+ build, whenever you use vanish, do you use ambush multiple times in single target to load combo points ?
I usually don't do it as I forget but should I do it instead of mutilate ?

[empty tide]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[novel star]

you just follow normal builder/spender logic

make ur stealth bar's ambush the same button as nonstealth bar's mutilate

and pretend theyre the same button

doesnt matter

[thin plinth]

guys should i get this one ?

this is the one i have

[novel star]

sim it but yes

[thin plinth]

in wowhead it says mine is bis but the stats are much better imo on the one from vault

[novel star]

bis is fake

dont look at bis lists

[thin plinth]

ok

[novel star]

just sim every item

dont look at stats either

ignore stats, ignore the bis list

sim every drop

[spice spire]

Don’t look at sims either

[novel star]

!bis

[prisma monolith]

BiS lists are not helpful towards gearing yourself. In order for BiS items to truly be BiS, all items in the list have to be obtained at that level exactly, or else it doesn't make sense. Missing a socket for example would shift your stats slightly. You should always compare your gear through top gear or droptimizer instead.

Pre-raid or Pre-season BiS is especially not helpful, and we do not have any of them. These are absolute meaningless bait for gear that you will be replacing the moment the season comes out. Use Top Gear/Droptimizer to compare against your character

[spice spire]

Fuck it go blind

[novel star]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[novel star]

for further info

[thin plinth]

fuck it lets go im taking it

[spice spire]

(This is comedy)

Just sim your stuff

[novel star]

Based

[spice spire]

But likely yeah

Neck good

[limber lion]

Hello comedy

This is Ceverion

[spice spire]

Hello Ceverion

[novel star]

you're so funny bro. Bumps my big fat ass into you intentionally

and pretends it was an accident

ohhh,,, im so sorry sir! my bad!

[spice spire]

This is comedy

[novel star]

https://tenor.com/view/beetle-unboxing-spider-unboxing-unboxing-beetle-gif-23449000

[spice spire]

In November lil bro?

[novel star]

its almost over man lock in

[spice spire]

Nah I failed Unfort

27 days in

Tried the Arnold method

[rugged sphinx]

quick question on mythic silken court, if im on "blue" should i just use cds on pull?

[spice spire]

Didn’t work

[runic hinge]

I failed 27 minutes in

[novel star]

the hell is that

i dont wanna kno actually

[spice spire]

Nah I’ll dm this one - it’s not NSFW but it’s not server appropriate. (No nudity or anything like that I don’t elicit that shit)

[harsh ravine]

mh does it works with subterfuge ? if I want to put caustic spatter on a target while im subterfuge, then I can't

[novel star]

yes you can

ambush also applies spatter

it just doesnt say so in the tooltip

[harsh ravine]

ahh okk

then I should just make a maccro
/cast ambush
/cast mutilate

as I don't use the stealth bar

[sudden sigil]

so in improved garrote, if i ambush from stealth does the improve garrote then still work on garrot for 6 secs after vanish?
Or is it only if i garrot from stealth?

[pine cave]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[keen spruce]

gm

[spice spire]

GM king

[urban saddle]

is there a weak aura that let's the tank know when i use stealth

so he doesn't chain pull like an idiot

[sudden sigil]

Well

A whisper at the start of the duingeon tbh

[urban saddle]

he can hear the woosh sound when i restealth right?

[brazen sluice]

hi so if im running x1 shiv do i shiv before KB or at last sec of its duration and then apply CT?

[sudden sigil]

last phase of KB

[brazen sluice]

kk ty

[tawny geyser]

How big is the embelishment actually?
Dagger+Belt?
I'm asking because I currently have 2x 639's and a 639 belt with avoidance + socket

I wonder if I should switch it, get more ilvl but I wouldnt have crafted gear anymore then

[red wolf]

sim it but I think 636 embellishments will out perform 639

offhand ilvl isn't that big and you can also put the other one on wrist or boots

[olive salmon]

is hand of justice any good from the timewalking vendor

[placid radish]

below average

[warm vortex]

Anyone

How do i make a custom / command

like if you /dance for example it does smth

[crimson zephyr]

I get by ass beaten by a windwalker 😦

[sudden sigil]

Does anyone here have some time to help me go through my logs and how to improve?

[coral ibex]

/em <your custom emote>

[patent snow]

I just had a Wrathstone drop from the TW quest. At first glance this thing looks really good. How competitive is it with A and S tier trinkets in general?

[torn dome]

I feel energy starved when running m+ keyz in fights that are ST and like more than 2 min lol, normal or am I doing something bad?

[spice surge]

Its good

[spice surge]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[torn dome]

perfect

thank you @spice surge

[crimson zephyr]

I really need to watc ha vod of myself if you ever run out of envenom buff if you just spam. Somehow can't imagine you do.

[novel star]

with current design in raid you basically do just mash like a dog and it works

m+ builds without ttk dashing have to care a little more but its still not ideal

[slate crown]

damn wish I could get mashed like a dog

[crimson zephyr]

how come my sim looks so much different to my actual dmg? e.g. meele

also I sim for 1.2m and I get around 1.1m I'm 630 but a monk gets 1.1m and is 620. So I assume I do something wrong (I barely played ST/raid so I'm very rusty) but still, even with 10=% sim of 1.2m, I am barely above the 620 monk.

I thought assa should be quit better than monk? Somehow I'd assume I simmed higher than 1.2m https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5PZLPGacbVyuaQnyfJgKpg

did I do a mistake?

[gloomy heart]

1.9 overall in a 11 mists

not bad

[runic hinge]

[coral ibex]

1.2m at 630 is low

[warm vortex]

Bro

our healer fucking dced

[coral ibex]

oh you have a 626 mh

[warm vortex]

One of them did

if he didn't we would have killed

[coral ibex]

get a myth track mh

[warm vortex]

also we are only 19 people on discord out of 20

Because on person apparaently lives somewhere where discord is banned

[crimson zephyr]

yeah I'm not surprised because I'm rather unprepared so that's fine - what I mean is: why is the sim so low?

[spice surge]

Aoe build

[crimson zephyr]

ah looool

ty

[cobalt sphinx]

we 19-manned sikran and rash last night

[crimson zephyr]

im so dumb xD

[cobalt sphinx]

the 4/8m pugs are great

[uneven sable]

Hello, If anyone has the time - сan you explain why my dps trash.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/VQFw8kx9WBHMJGpm#fight=58&type=damage-done&source=394
for now i understand only what i dont use tea

[cobalt sphinx]

pretty harsh language to use on yourself shkine

[slate crown]

Any takers to do a review?

[coral ibex]

because you have a 626 main hand

main hand dps is your biggest determining factor

[slate crown]

thx tony you're always there when my comments flop

[uneven sable]

636

[crimson zephyr]

I had the wrong spec is probably the main thing. Should I craft a higher weapon?

ah yeah with my ST raid spec I get 1.45m

sounds more reasonable

[coral ibex]

oh is this not a ST sim

[crimson zephyr]

can I somehwo sim items I don't own?

[coral ibex]

i didnt even check the talents

[crimson zephyr]

I thought it was

[coral ibex]

i see CT in the talents so surely not

if you're simming patchwerk 3 minutes with m+ talents and full raid buffs

its gonna give you a strange output

[crimson zephyr]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/39NMTYYbCqY72j8BoEdeYx

[runic hinge]

I'm here for you 🫂

[crimson zephyr]

thanks for pointing out my stupid mistake ^^

[warm vortex]

Top dps sikran yipiee :D

[pseudo siren]

anyone have a deathmark skardyn's grace macro?

[warm vortex]

:O

[lavish geyser]

for ovinax do you hold 1 tea for adds?

[solid venture]

[little frost]

!macro

!macros

[snow kindle]

gz

[snow kindle]

just press during cds

[short night]

whats mastery soft cap?

is it like 30% on all stats?

[cobalt sphinx]

Yeah tea might be a bit of a factor, I noticed your kingsbane damage was quite low compared to mine, and you didn't evenom before kingsbane. You want shiv, envenom, and tea covering as much of deathmark and kingsbane as possible

[split dust]

hey fellas im using a disgusting dirty non rogue alt and it has its own plater but other players nameplates are all blue but i really love how they are the class colors in whispyrs plater, anyway to change this ?

[warm vortex]

Is this how rashnan works

Like

mythic changes

[cobalt sphinx]

yeah and the adds hurt

and there's a consistent movement pattern based on the first movement

[floral solstice]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[cobalt sphinx]

it's always far corner, then close on the same side, then far opposite side, then close on the same side, then opposite

or something like that

[coral ibex]

wat

idk what this is depicting

[warm vortex]

Ok so
the first one is where you position with posions
the second is the web mechinic in mythic
I THINK
Idk

[coral ibex]

oh i see

very interesting design choices for this graphic

[warm vortex]

I had like

3 min in break

to make it

with ms paint

[coral ibex]

oh i thought ur RL provided this or something lol

[warm vortex]

Nono it was me

in like 3 min

Also sub did you see i got a 95 on sikran :D

[cobalt sphinx]

you'll get webs and adds on every position with double webs on the third position

moving every 50 seconds

or every minute

so gateway is super important on 1->2 and 3->4 because you have to go the farthest

and we just time spiral or something for the other ones

[cerulean walrus]

And it mirrors depending on which way rash goes first

[coral ibex]

do this

to bait the cum

[warm vortex]

We just saw it did that

Oh ok ok

[cobalt sphinx]

the hair chest layout

[warm vortex]

Also should i go for CT

[coral ibex]

W

[cobalt sphinx]

hairy chest

[warm vortex]

On the boss>

[coral ibex]

no

[cobalt sphinx]

naw

[coral ibex]

if your guild doesnt drop the adds up rash's ass, dont even play caustic

and i mean literally up her ass

[cobalt sphinx]

pure st with spatter and pray that people drop adds close

[cerulean walrus]

No just don’t even use spatter at all

Lmao

[coral ibex]

if they drop the adds like towards the front of the target circle

you wont hit them at all with caustic

its worthless

[cobalt sphinx]

i got 10% spatter yesterday and the adds weren't even really grouped

[crimson zephyr]

I currently have two passive trinkets, is that bad? ara kara and boralus

[warm vortex]

I dont mean splatter

I mean tempest

[cobalt sphinx]

never tempest

[coral ibex]

no dont take tempest

its not an add fight

[warm vortex]

Kk

Thanks

[coral ibex]

the adds exist for like 25s total

across the entire fight

[cerulean walrus]

Plus your warriors and everyone else will blow up those adds in no time

[warm vortex]

So no splatter and no temp just pure st?

[cerulean walrus]

Just ST

[coral ibex]

i mean you can take spatter and test urself

[warm vortex]

But yea sub

these my logs atm

[coral ibex]

you wont get much

[warm vortex]

Eh idk!

[cerulean walrus]

Because more often than not you aren’t gonna hit em

[cobalt sphinx]

spatter if your strat enables it, the adds have to be within 12 yd of the center of the boss

but if you drop adds out, then use ib

[coral ibex]

and if you have warriors its just GG

they're gonna parse the shit out of those adds every time

[warm vortex]

I think ill try splatter for some pulls

[cobalt sphinx]

yeah see if you can get more than the 2-3% of IB

i think most deaths i've seen have been websnaps and acid pools

for every player hit by a web circle, you'll get an extra websnap per person per circle

so if you have three circles overlap each other, that's like 6 more websnaps for 600k each

[warm vortex]

Jfc

Getting webs first

fucks up your dps

So bad

[cobalt sphinx]

we just did webs left

[warm vortex]

Also only reason i asked about CT was cause hitting the bsos with it with ads up
But i guess it's a situation where itsjust not as good as what you drop

[cobalt sphinx]

you can have 2 melee stay on the boss

[warm vortex]

Rn people are doing webs lback i think

Also might give fatebound a go here

actually

God yea there are a lot of ads

this feels like a good fight for outlaw or trickster

[cyan karma]

Any one know of the crest glitch still works with crafted dagger? Landed a myth bk kurri last night but im at the crest cap for the week ☹️

[warm vortex]

Also i forgot how variable fatebound is X)

[balmy condor]

it should yeah

[warm vortex]

Sucks seeing how little in doing on rashnan with how much peopel can bad tf

*pad

[crimson zephyr]

what's the highest ilvl for a crafted dagger?

[cobalt sphinx]

636 for all slots

[novel star]

Tbh u can do a gorillion dps on that boss without spatter etc

[crimson zephyr]

so i'm 630 have hero regicide and kurki is it worth crafting two daggers 363?

[balmy condor]

technically yes if you won't have access to myth track

[novel star]

fan cp income on the adds to crank envenoms does insane st

[crimson zephyr]

I don't wanna mythic raid and vault so far was no luck

[warm vortex]

Yeye

But compared to the warriors kek

also fgucking

gorrilion

[novel star]

yea

[cobalt sphinx]

assassination still owns that fight with the zoldyck and blindside value

[novel star]

Ye

[gloomy hinge]

asked this earlier,as FULL m+ player, do i just go socket?

[cobalt sphinx]

are you really truly a full m+ player if you have a raid boss kill

phony

that's 13 ilvls on the ring, did you sim it on dslice?

[dry dagger]

What percentage of my damage should splatter be in keys? I'm doing 10s and 11s atm

[cobalt sphinx]

depends on the dungeon you're doing, maybe like 15-22%

[gloomy hinge]

No :C

[dry dagger]

Ok so if I'm around like 13%, what should I do to increase it? Less setup with bleeds and just more Envenom spam?

[rich parrot]

we should use shiv before vanish or after vanish ? the top parse in mono bosses shiv before the vanish cause the sim tell me to put shiv after vanish

[gloomy hinge]

75k dps loss 5 targets 1 minute, 8k dps increase single target 3 minutes.

[novel star]

would have to see gameplay to know exactly what’s wrong but yeah probably

[gloomy hinge]

simmed at 639 with sockets

[novel star]

if you’re hitting rupture after its alredy up on 5 targets

or hitting garrote outside of stealth

[gloomy hinge]

what is "kriss"?

[novel star]

instead of mashing fok envenom

[rich parrot]

shiv

[novel star]

ur playing wrong (sadly)

[dry dagger]

Could it also be that I'm waiting for too high CP's?

[novel star]

possibly

send finishers at 5+cp

builders at 4 or below

always

(except 7 for DN)

[gloomy hinge]

conflicted about what to do with vault, if sockets or nto

[dry dagger]

Ok was about to ask

[cobalt sphinx]

spatter is all of your nature and plague damage so it could be a number of different things, kingsbane is a lot of spatter too

[novel star]

[dry dagger]

What if I'm 1 CP off DN, do I still use a builder to get up there?

[novel star]

send kb on the wrong target and it dies too fast = you suffer

[rich parrot]

?

[novel star]

Yes

DN takes priority over the entire rest of the rotation

[cobalt sphinx]

it could be the build too, the bleed build wtih zoldycks has less spatter without poison bomb or amp poison i think

[dry dagger]

Kk that I've been doing right then

[novel star]

you need to force it

insta

[coral ibex]

you shiv to cover the end of kingsbane and vanish for MA to cover the end of kingsbane

[novel star]

(i guess in aoe technically spatter is prio above the 7cp envenom but like)

[dry dagger]

I'm going the standard M+ build from Wowhead

So no Zoldyck

[cobalt sphinx]

ok that's standard yeah

spatter will be lower on small pulls too or if you're wiping to bosses

maybe lower on lower keys

[dry dagger]

The reason I'm asking is I boosted a +10 last night with another rogue in, and he beat me with about 6-700k dps with similar ilvl

And his Spatter % was way higher than mine

[cobalt sphinx]

the vanish is maybe a hair early because of simulationcraft limitations but you just want vanish covering KB at 50 stacks on KB, the "end of KB" begins once you hit 50 stacks so you can vanish and shiv any time as long as you have 50

[dry dagger]

So I'm pretty sure my rotation has a lot of room for improvement

[cobalt sphinx]

you can log your keys to go over it, spatter is not an ability though it's a multiplier from your other abilities

[warm vortex]

I can't stop fucking lauging at this

Genuinly

Like is it one gorilla's worth of damage

if so

That is a lot of damage

[dry dagger]

Yeah I guess I'm gonna have to start logging to figure out what can be improved

Thanks for the input tho, very helpful ❤️

[nova python]

how much % bonus is 4set for assa?

[cyan karma]

What are the specifics on the crest glitch again? Change the missive, make sure it’s a different person crafting… and I vaguely remember people saying you had to log off immediately after recraft or somthing??

[blazing pumice]

you have to relog

you don't have to change the missive

it doesn't have to be a different person crafting

i just put embellishing powder on

[safe kayak]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[blazing pumice]

and that works

[novel star]

just relog and embellish i think

yea

[cyan karma]

What if I just remove embellishment?

And put it on braces or somthing

[novel star]

embellishing powder is how u remove

and it does work that way

as long as the item has something different about it it works

i think?

[novel star]

i also have only done it with embellish powder

[cobalt sphinx]

i think i did that right

[cyan karma]

Ok so nothing fancy, no specific relog window… just change it in any way so it has a different code, relog, profit

[novel star]

[raven panther]

Silken Court MM, should I send cd at open or on first charge ?

[balmy condor]

first charge

[raven panther]

do we know the timing ? like can i send Kingsbane open ?

[balmy condor]

https://lorrgs.io/spec_ranking/rogue-assassination/the-silken-court

the timing to follow is the people that dm/kb at 45

[crimson zephyr]

okay so hc raid weapons < 636 crafted dagger right? which dagger?

[raven panther]

ok might send at open, it looks easier to follow, they send cd every 2 min, the other send only when boss are debuffed

[gilded wolf]

!macros

[balmy condor]

sending it on open is trolling for most setups

[gilded wolf]

!macro

[balmy condor]

you would be sending cds into the intermission shield

guilds typically call a dps stop for that

[nova python]

also, is there any place i can put my logs so i would get and insist what am i still missing/where making mistakes?

[gilded wolf]

Hmm I swear there was a list of macros here, what’s the command?

[balmy condor]

we don't have a macro command

[gilded wolf]

Ty

[crimson zephyr]

which one is better?

[blazing pumice]

the 2nd

the 1st is shit

[crimson zephyr]

ok thanks

[gilded wolf]

Very few macros on the IV guide, anything you can recommend in addition to trinket/potion macros and start attacks?

[blazing pumice]

mouseover your dots

[cyan karma]

I’ve made every main ability into a mouse over macro

[blazing pumice]

focus kick

death mark with skardyns if you have one

[cloud vortex]

do i need to slow down my rotation on bosses? always like out of energy especially using feint

[crimson zephyr]

I use macro for focus and mouseover for dots and kick

!macros

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[tired gull]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[cloud vortex]

ty

[woven shore]

How do you guys open

ambush gar
Rup mut fok env
Mark shiv kb tea mut Mut vanish env?

[balmy condor]

that vanish is real early

the rest looks fine

[woven shore]

Oh okay
Why if i may ask

[balmy condor]

cause the vanish is not on the last 6 seconds of kb

[woven shore]

Why would you use them on last 6sec?

[balmy condor]

master assassin

[forest nacelle]

big kb crit

[woven shore]

Lol

Okay im dumb

Thansk whisp

Btw im a 6/8 mythic raider now

Fucking kyveza was cancer

Especially when u want to reset and then she dashes to middle xD

[balmy condor]

you killed kyveza without knowing when to vanish

gratz though

fun fight

[slow marsh]

4p acquired

[iron carbon]

Did my first tries tonight

[west pilot]

Having some trouble getting ramped in aoe when the tank chain pulls and I can’t get a stealth off. What’s the prio in getting up and rolling in that situation w/o cds?

[iron carbon]

omfg, seems fun but tense

[brave comet]

on queen i should run the cleave build right?

[blazing pumice]

get a rupture and spatter up, ct

[iron carbon]

Ct = 5 ruptures > Spatter > Envenom

[snow kindle]

if you dont have good aoe already if u do i wouldnt

[brave comet]

sorry, can you rephrase that lmao

[snow kindle]

if youre team comp has good aoe dont

[balmy condor]

It’s the same fight 3x so once you know how the first and second dashes work you’re basically afk

First like 15 pulls seem crazy and then you realize you can fully brain off for the next 100 pulls

[iron carbon]

First dash, I got it

[brave comet]

they do, okay ill not pick a single target build

[iron carbon]

Didn't see the second yet

[iron carbon]

Tbh, I think your Spatter will do more damages anyway than IB

So, you don't lose a lot play Spatter instead of Internal Bleeding

[west pilot]

Thank you!

[keen mantle]

Fellow rogues

help

Why cant i get the Harbinger of the Glided achievment for cheaper upgrades on my alts

when im 639?

any prodigy can help

[iron carbon]

Skill issue I guess

[keen mantle]

bruh

[iron carbon]

jking

[spice surge]

Log out ig

[keen mantle]

i did it million times

fml

[iron carbon]

Yup, I don't see what you can do more

[coral ibex]

blizzard forgot to implement it bc they didn't think anyone would keep playing long enough to hit 639

(idk)

[limber swallow]

it's not available for female dwarves.

[humble verge]

indie company

[iron carbon]

/run local n=tInvert(Enum.ItemRedundancySlot),a;for i=0,16 do a = C_ItemUpgrade.GetHighWatermarkForSlot(i); if a < 639 then print(a, n[i]) end end

Run it

[brave comet]

can we be friends?

nvm youre a subtlety rogue, ew

[iron carbon]

Maybe you need to remove reput a piece of stuff

[keen mantle]

hmge?

[iron carbon]

Drop and equip

[spice surge]

Unequip and equip shit again ig

[cobalt sphinx]

its over

[coral ibex]

[keen mantle]

nothing

[humble verge]

make a ticket

[cobalt sphinx]

🥴

[keen mantle]

did already lol

[humble verge]

damn

[brave comet]

privileged people problems

P3

[iron carbon]

Try to upgrade your waist

[humble verge]

his waist is 639

[iron carbon]

Maybe just the UI is bugged

[humble verge]

😵‍💫

[iron carbon]

^

[limber swallow]

Do you happen to have any item with the same name at a lower item level in your inventory?
Possibly your belt.
If so, put it in the bank and re-equip that item.

[humble verge]

oh what

lmao

[keen mantle]

wdym i bought it today for 200k

JSUT TO DO THE UPGARDE

i got crafted waist

and i upgraded it to 639

[humble verge]

you cant upgrade crafted waist to 639

guhuh

[iron carbon]

I think that's the issue

[keen mantle]

yes

i did upgrade the boe waist

[humble verge]

say what now

[keen mantle]

to 639

[humble verge]

ah

[polar cape]

May be need 2 dager

[iron carbon]

I doesn't count with BoE ?

[humble verge]

yeah that makes sense

[keen mantle]

bro i have 6 different weapons 639

i did equip them all

[warm vortex]

I feel like if nobody gets internet issues my guild can kill rash nexxt week which is pog :D!!

[polar cape]

Gege

[sharp viper]

quick question, does feint (without elusiveness) reduce the regicide damage on kyveza?

[coral ibex]

W

[coral ibex]

no

[iron carbon]

Seems to be the BOE issue

[warm vortex]

Also got a mythic helm tonight

Having tier helm at 639 is like

[coral ibex]

who doesnt love mythical head

[iron carbon]

I guess these items doesn't work for achiev

[warm vortex]

slightly better than having my current one

So thats good

636 crafted to 639 lul

[cobalt sphinx]

boe definitely works

[warm vortex]

Sim telling me that 8% haste is good feels

wrong

15% haste for ST gear set
🤮

On the plus side i am 635 now

[coral ibex]

damn ur more juiced than me!

[warm vortex]

Juicy goblin

:D

[crimson steppe]

Kinda new to rogue here, trying to gear it up and currently dissapointed when playing in st since I seem to run out of energy and have shit low dps, any tips on how to fix that or manage energy better, im following the openers and prio lists from wowhead but just run out of juice

[warm vortex]

I mean your stats seem better

[warm vortex]

M+

Or raid

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

• Energy just is low on the spec there's nothing to do about it
• Super Min-Max stuff includes avoiding the auto proc of tea (less than +0.2%, tea/shiv macro is optimal)
• Refreshing Envenom in pandemic instead of spamming it (mostly relevant for m+ without TTK, can be up to 0.5%)
• Otherwise nothing matters. Pooling before kingsbanes isn't important because of tea lining up and deathmark giving a huge surge of energy

[warm vortex]

so what you want to do for m+
Is get 5 cp or more
Envenom
build 5 again
then wait for envenom to nearly run out then envenom again

Keep doing this unless DN procs
then get to 7 and enven

[nova python]

clearly missing sockets

[coral ibex]

if you don't like the waiting for energy part, this spec might not be for you

[warm vortex]

Sim says iskran neck is higher too

For ST

so 15% (Lowered cause of pot) haste

[coral ibex]

bc this is among the fastest iterations there's ever been

it will probably get slower again in the future

[crimson steppe]

oh alright that makes sense, i ve been spamming mutilates in st and spam refreshing envenom, appreciate the tips

[wispy epoch]

Insane

[runic hinge]

Try relogging

Rip

Someone said that I was scrolled up

[warm vortex]

Yea yea

also hi hakari

:D

[novel star]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[novel star]

but yeah

as vendeten said

waiting for pandemic helps a lot with the Feel

wont do everything tho

sin is just slow

[iron carbon]

Maybe for other ach but but maybe not this one

[unreal imp]

I can’t find the answer for this and couldn’t exactly tell the other night:

If I want to cloak for the acid rain on mythic silken court will that break a web link?

[coral ibex]

yes

[warm vortex]

God

debating weather or not to cata my big hast smol mast feet into the raid ones

its like a 0.1% to -0.1% on ST and 0.8% - 0.3% Aoe or smth

[cloud vortex]

anyone have a WA for momentum of despair?

[balmy condor]

Why would you want to track that

It’s up permanently in aoe and doesn’t impact single target

[cloud vortex]

oh

nvm

[novel star]

[runic hinge]

I’m permanently up in aoe

[novel star]

sheesh

[warm vortex]

Still don't know if i should cata my boots for the minor minor dps increase and sometimes loss ig

[novel star]

cata your skardyns

turn it into a transmitter

[warm vortex]

:O!

Can i cata my ring into a seal

[novel star]

ya

[warm vortex]

But yea

i did multiple sims and it seems the boots are like

going close to a 0.2% increase

[novel star]

can also cata the box thing into mandate

[warm vortex]

So i might do it ig?

[novel star]

[warm vortex]

But like

[novel star]

cata for transmog

lowkey

[warm vortex]

My cata charges are low

But i have like
Wrists and belt and boots

not in raid

i might do it just for mog tbf haha

Plus im super low vers so a tiny bit might help

[slow marsh]

what is the haste breakpoint

[coral ibex]

there is no such thing

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[slow marsh]

I keep running out of energies and i need more haste to get more energies regening

[coral ibex]

what makes you think that

[novel star]

nope

wont make a difference

[coral ibex]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[novel star]

haste is not noticeable

[slow marsh]

coz more haste means more ticks of bleed and poison for more energy regening

[sullen kiln]

Haste is poopy

[novel star]

read the 2nd bullet point in the above command

10% haste is a huge amount

2apm is

basically nothing

[slow marsh]

so like 20% haste

[novel star]

no

for christ’s sake

[coral ibex]

yea bro gear for 20% haste

go for it

[novel star]

stop fucking looking at stats is the point

do you understand how unbelievably dogshit

10% for 2 apm

is

[slow marsh]

oh i thought iw as supposed to get to 20/20/20/20

[novel star]

20% for 4 apm is just as bad

it’s the same ratio

don’t look at your stats

[coral ibex]

where did you get those numbers

[novel star]

just sim all your items as they drop

you will never, ever get the best answer by looking at the stats yourself and trying to outsmart a sim

[slow marsh]

sim like sims 4?

[coral ibex]

yup

[slow marsh]

i dont like sims 4

[novel star]

sim like raidbots

[snow kindle]

stop falling for the ragebait

[novel star]

but no, sims 3

[coral ibex]

like the sims 4

[snow kindle]

😭

[novel star]

It could be ragebait but i’m not particularly mad

and also not doing anything else

so

i don’t mind

[blissful pecan]

I be trolling if i dont take spyglass yeah? this trinket rocks on assa right?

[warm vortex]

I might not

[deft vault]

On silken court mythic, does cloaking remove the web link with your partner?

[blissful pecan]

it doesnt

[deft vault]

so i can cloak to prevent orb spawns?

and still get linked?

[coral ibex]

yes it does?

cloak 100% removes your web link

[blissful pecan]

it doesnt i think

ive tried it on raid

[coral ibex]

well i know it does

i have absolutely removed my web link by fat fingering cloak

[blissful pecan]

im pretty sure it doesnt

cuz i used it a lot

[coral ibex]

i am 100% sure it does

[spice surge]

Im fairly sure it doesnt

But you can precloak it

Or maybe its just the debuff it wont dispell

[deft vault]

yeah precloaking it to prevent orb spawn

will that still get you linked?

[coral ibex]

you won't get the link

[spice surge]

It wont web you either if you precloak

[coral ibex]

no

[slow marsh]

cappin in 720p

[coral ibex]

i guess my shit bugged because i have done exactly that and it cleansed my web

[novel star]

It’s pretty good, there’s like 5 passive trinkets that are all roughly the same value

if you don’t have one of them on myth track

[blissful pecan]

i think ur partner snapped it or smt

[novel star]

then slam the spyglass

[blissful pecan]

i only have mythic contract and sikran thing which is not that good

[deft vault]

So you can cloak after ur webbed but not before

[blissful pecan]

so im taking spyglass i guess

[novel star]

it probably beats contract yea

[slow marsh]

no the gif is showing that cloak after web doesn't work

[deft vault]

thats what i want

[novel star]

idk sim it

[deft vault]

i dont want to lose my web im assigned to it

i just wanna prevent orbs spawn

[blissful pecan]

haha sim is telling me to use 626 scardins over both spyglass and contract

[coral ibex]

you can cloak early to prevent the poison circle orb

[blissful pecan]

guess this trinket really is BIS

[slow marsh]

i mean yeah

[coral ibex]

you just can't have cloak when you soak the web

[deft vault]

yeah so first sset on webs i get the web then cloak and i wont spawn acids rain orbs right and ill still have my web

[coral ibex]

sounds right

[strange python]

Hey guys, been a while since I checked in here, performance has improved a lot but still trying to get better. Looking at WoWanalyzer it says use envenom at 4+ CP.....is 5+ not what we aim for at all times, other than after shiv when supercharged but if we forget those discrete instances its 5+ right?

[slow marsh]

breaking news: trinket that gives huge mastery on button press that's also 2min cd is crazy good for assassination

[coral ibex]

very dumb that pre cloak prevents the web but cloaking with the web doesn't do anything AND that my partner snapped our tether exactly when i cloaked and fucking gaslit me

[blissful pecan]

damn but still

[faint vessel]

might as well lock skardyns to make your sim go faster brother

[blissful pecan]

beating other A+ tier 639 mythic trinkets is suprising

[faint vessel]

unless youre simming against myth transmitter and are a bit of a masochist

[slow marsh]

understandable but that's just how assassination be

[coral ibex]

its because the activated effect is really good for our burst

more effective than simple ilvl gains

[blissful pecan]

yeah

and cd is perfect as well

[novel star]

unsurprising, passive trinkets cant compete with skardyns lining up perfectly with our burst

[blissful pecan]

feels really good to just macro it up with deathmark

[slow marsh]

In the past most of the huge mastery buff trinkets were like 3 min cds so it makes sense that one with 2 min would be bis

for that reason

[lavish geyser]

is 40k dps differnce alot when comparing st sims?

[slow marsh]

context

[shy creek]

Can you cloak Sikran Shattering?

[coral ibex]

yea you can true immune it with the first second

[balmy condor]

I mean that's like nearly 3% no?

that's a ton

[coral ibex]

i haven’t tried not using the true immune

[shy creek]

Ah fuck I forget thats how cloak works

[slow marsh]

i think its more?

[coral ibex]

depends on the base

[shy creek]

Is the timing hard for it?

[balmy condor]

40k on 1.2mil would be 3%

[coral ibex]

40k is like 2.7%

for me

[balmy condor]

we're above 1.2mil

so should be a little less than it

[lavish geyser]

ok 🙂 dont rly have any experience when it comes to simming, so I have no real perspective. idk if 3% is alot. but if it is, then cool 🙂

[slow marsh]

i mean 40k is 40k just like $20 is $20 no matter what % amiright

[worldly sail]

im not gay but 40k dps is 40k dps

[balmy condor]

upgrades between 0.1%-0.2% are sidegrades and minimal, 0.3%-0.4% are just like decent upgrades, anything up to 1% is like important and anything more than 1% is like jesus fuck why do I not have this I'm trolling

wow I fucked that

hold on

[coral ibex]

i don’t get out of bed for less than 1%

[lavish geyser]

im still holding on 🙂

[coral ibex]

myth queen ring is my biggest upgrade rn and it’s only 1.3%

[balmy condor]

2 piece tier is around 5%

2 piece to 4 piece is around another 3% I think or something

embellishments are 1%

[lavish geyser]

okok. well i do like 40k extra dps with transmitter for sub, and I just hate that thing, since im learning. So wanted to know if the sims were telling me if I could just go skardyns or not. Now i have my answers. I guess I was trolling haha

[balmy condor]

yeh

transmitter lines up WAY too good on sub

[slow marsh]

how much is dropping DN

[balmy condor]

90 second cds with a 90 second trinket

kinda nice

[lavish geyser]

brotha just having to soak that piss spot sucks in raid. at least that is my 1hr experience with it

[balmy condor]

I mean just turn your character

[lavish geyser]

turn you say

🧐

[shy creek]

Whispyr do you have your mythic boss kilsl recorded anywhere

[cobalt sphinx]

You really really really want to be using transmitter on sub

It is the perfect trinket for that build

[orchid tree]

Any tips for improving parses?

[balmy condor]

youtube has all the vods

[lavish geyser]

ig I just gotta get used to it. Just started feeling good on sub. Got transmitter, and now I feel like I suck again. but ig its a part of a learning process

[balmy condor]

first kills might be rough but I did a reclear yesterday all the way back to court

[shy creek]

Okay, I'll look at that

I was gonna say, I'm not lookin thru ur vods for a kill 😭

[balmy condor]

play good, pad adds, kill boss faster, have better gear

[shy creek]

skip to random part of whisypr vod, flashbanged with maplestory

[lavish geyser]

when it comes to adds phases for ovinax do you hold a tea for the adds, to pump extra dmg? or just play normally and not rly think abt it

[shy creek]

LOL

[orchid tree]

629 but still not parsing the greatest

[worldly sail]

best parse improval technique is getting a good kill timer

[balmy condor]

[balmy condor]

brother I do not track tea

[cobalt sphinx]

Top parses don’t make very many mistakes, you have to play properly with good uptime

[balmy condor]

wellllllllllllllllllll....................

[shy creek]

Don't believe him

Im looking at his tea rn.

[balmy condor]

okay well its in my wa's

I don't look at it though

[lavish geyser]

why not?

[balmy condor]

because it's macro'd

and I don't give a shit

macro does its thing

[orchid tree]

I corrected myself by stopping my overlapping bleeds helped a bit

[lavish geyser]

to shiv?

[balmy condor]

yes

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[lavish geyser]

fair enough

seems like everything is just sent on cd for ovinax. im guessing its the same for the rest?

[balmy condor]

yeah ovi'nax lines up within a couple seconds

should be very obvious

[cobalt sphinx]

you can also post your logs here and people can take a look at them

[balmy condor]

court is giga holding cds

and the rest is basically all just on cd

lines up on kyveza, lines up on rash

[orchid tree]

Ok, about to run an arak. I'll post logs here after

[balmy condor]

wait

m+ parse?

m+ parses are not a thing

[cobalt sphinx]

holy

[lavish geyser]

it is. seems like it works out pretty well. I be pumping hard on that boss

[balmy condor]

m+ parses are by points scored

not performance

no one uses that shit

[cobalt sphinx]

there is a key% which rates your dps vs others in the same key but i don't think enough people really log for it to be very meaningful

[orchid tree]

Ahh, thanks! Didn't know that

[balmy condor]

yeh that's true

key%

where you're competing against maybe 8 other rogues

and the top parse is a 25 min key

and the bottom parse is a 65 min key

[slow marsh]

its so weird to me that we take MA but just vanish for imp gar when it's up

[balmy condor]

I mean we vanish for MA

[slow marsh]

during cd's or just at the end of KB?

er i guess thats the same thing

[balmy condor]

yes

[slow marsh]

but maybe you know what i mean

[novel star]

end of kb

[balmy condor]

[novel star]

yea

you definitely don’t vanish “for imp gar”

you vanish for ma and imp gar just also is a thing that happens

[faint vessel]

just a bonus

[slow marsh]

my point is more that we used to vanish closer to the start when i was playing so im having to change how i think about vanish and it's hard cuz im a boomer now

[balmy condor]

you can still vanish like that

not too different damage wise

[runic hinge]

Ez way to adapt is don’t think about anything. Just do

[safe shale]

Nectrotic wake, first boss

Heaving retch

vs

Cloak of shadows

thoughts?

[balmy condor]

!necrotic

whats the command

[iron carbon]

!nw

[prisma monolith]

The breath/frontal from the first boss in Necrotic Wake is an attack, not a spell.

In order to immune the the breath, you must be in the first second of cloak of shadows (“a moment of magic immunity”). After the first second of cloak of shadows has elapsed, the attack will hit you and no longer be immuned.
Alternatively you can use evasion to dodge the breath.

[balmy condor]

yeh

that one

[safe shale]

Thats actually cringe

XD

[novel star]

yes

[safe shale]

Have managed to do it correcntly without thinking 1050 times

[novel star]

knowledge check boss

very dumb

[safe shale]

Then in my nw 14

It doesnt work

Thats crazy

[iron carbon]

Sad

But life's hard

As Blizzard gameplay decision

[blissful pecan]

damn spyglass really does feel good

i only have 21% crit on assa

and this thing neary is giving me 9% crit

[iron carbon]

Don't look stats

Look sim

[blissful pecan]

yea

sim tells me to take this as well

spyglass/skardin combo

[iron carbon]

I run Crystal / Skardyn

[novel star]

it is kinda nice yea

spyglass is chill

[safe shale]

spyglass ok

[visual sun]

Sim telling me to fatebound ST

[blissful pecan]

yea im curious as well

l heard that fatebound isnt that much luck based

[safe shale]

Sim been telling everyone fatebound ST for months

[blissful pecan]

but noone is taking fatebound haha

[novel star]

this

fatebound is just really good

[blissful pecan]

so im just sticking with DS

[safe shale]

I hope you joking

[blissful pecan]

no rly

it is luck based talent