assassination

[winged gust]

yo do yall know when i should use tea? cuz rn im just letting the auto tea happen when i go below 30 energy

and that cant be the right way for sure

[balmy condor]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[balmy condor]

use that and forget tea exists

[winter quest]

Anyone know the damage difference between Twist the Knife and Sudden Demise in dungeons? Does it make a big difference which one you use?

[vapid skiff]

overall its close but twist the knife is considerably better in ST both bosses and packs

but aoe heavy dung and playing with a shaman maybe you want the higher even aoe for some places

but generally TTKs ST value is better imo

[winter quest]

Okay ty

And one more question. Would it be considered trolling to not run IW in dungeons?

[vapid skiff]

depends on comp and dungeon

with prot paladin and enh shaman, i only run it in NW ans SV and maybe GB

it is nice but cpt america go brr so its literally just a waste a lot of the time with prot pala

[winter quest]

Ohhh okay, that makes sense

And what about the double vanish? If tank is not chain-pulling and can get good resets, is it still worth running double vanish?

I know I said one more, but now I got more xD

[vapid skiff]

if you are running iron wire its always better than the one lethality imo

and if not its fine either way

with a tank you dont know generally I prefer the double vanish

[winter quest]

That's fair, okay

[spice surge]

It largely doesnt matter either way, just try both and see what you prefer

[vapid skiff]

but with iron wire the value of having that backup vanish for a monkaS pack is way better than the one lethality point

[spice surge]

Numerically its all just incredibly close

[vapid skiff]

but ye its very close with a lot of options

[spice spire]

Wish that was us

[oak tangle]

still 4 days

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-gif-26414884

miss urself with that

[spice spire]

Ty for keeping me in check memz

Ur a real one

[daring shore]

Does anyone know the stat amounts before we hit deminishing returns?

[novel star]

nop

[spice surge]

Its not something you need to pay attention to

[novel star]

^

[viscid parcel]

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[viscid parcel]

@balmy condor do you have a specific UI layout you recommend using with your WA pack?

love your work btw, and sorry if pinging is frowned upon

[spice spire]

Nah ur good dog

He’s just in raid rn

[oak tangle]

he could answer but he's coping that "this pull is the one"

[viscid parcel]

oh yeah np, he can take all the time he needs, i'm in no rush

ty!

[balmy condor]

nah

it's pretty standard middle of the screen WA

[oak tangle]

anyone else in the waiting room for poe2 EA? i ran the script to see how much i spent, and im not proud, but i know people that are much worse

[viscid parcel]

great, thank you so much!

[subtle cipher]

im prob on the 7k mark lol

[wanton tangle]

is it normal to be energy starved in single target for m+?

[spice surge]

Yes

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[wanton tangle]

ah okay thanks! uhg i need to figure out that gameplay. i feel so weird pooling energy lol

[rotund oak]

technically Eleem's !stats answers to this question but if u want more insight you should ignore stat weights and go with whatever ur sims say so.Top100 do terrible mistakes and this is a common fallacy of ''plea to false experty''.(Dont wanna mention the obvious that 99% of those 100 were on this chat asking the same thing to get the same answer)

[oak tangle]

damn, im only 1050

[serene mason]

Thanks for the deeper dive. I did some more research and i guess what makes the difference was using ovinax egg instead of ara-kara

[dapper cradle]

you had an interesting rant about theorycrafting in your last stream

"the growing trend is we optimize raidbots to spit out a bigger number rather than play like a human and give us actual recommendations"

big number

[subtle cipher]

i got almost every top pack since 2014 :3

[rotund oak]

arakara trinket needs to ramp,its a trinket that

is kinda special

[runic hinge]

You’re kinda special

[viscid parcel]

thank you so much! and one last question: is it possible to independently adjust the height and width of the icons in the dynamic "Core" group? based on the CustomGrow function you have set, it doesn't seem likely, but i figured i'd ask just in case ❤️

[balmy condor]

Yeah that won’t work, the custom grow is responsible for resizing all the icons and creating the row

You could in theory change it to a group and do the sizing yourself one by one

[viscid parcel]

nah i'm just being nitpicky and trying to line everything up with my current UI, it's not nearly that serious

appreciate the help though, thanks again!

[rotund oak]

yes i am

[wise whale]

Sap the specialest

[slow marsh]

True

[limber lion]

you're a good dog too :)

[soft surge]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[slow marsh]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[slow marsh]

!pool

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom

• For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[gloomy heart]

never doing +10s on monday night ever again

[subtle tundra]

assa is pog in 10s cause if things die faster you get more buffs

[gloomy heart]

i was gonna do 2.3mil overall ish

but these 2 wiped us

4 times

[ripe carbon]

wat ilvl u?

also wat dungeon?

[gloomy heart]

631 10 NW

[gloomy heart]

is it bad LOL, i was doing insane this dungeon but they died 29 times

[ripe carbon]

no i was just wondering

[manic sphinx]

Do devles loot table in guild vault give m+ loot?

[ripe carbon]

i never pug with other rogues so i dont know wat damage ppl do so just wondering

[gloomy heart]

no

[manic sphinx]

ah ok, thx

[dapper hare]

delves are so chill until my beautiful tricks of the trade falls off and i get an anvil dropped on my head

[gloomy heart]

Owned

[dapper hare]

it’s honestly kind of fun. cartoonish levels of damage being inflicted upon my person

[gloomy heart]

has nothing i want from it so i don’t bother with it

delves make me fall asleep

[royal lantern]

why would you take tricks, it just makes stuff run around crazy all the time

just take healer brann ands its done anyway

[gloomy heart]

brann is useless

rather him be floor pov all delve

[grim jay]

Hope thats a joke

[grim jay]

Wish I would be done

[gloomy heart]

Brann sucks !

[grim jay]

If he is underleveled and you got shit traits, probably

Traits alone make him worth

[gloomy heart]

he’s like lvl 35 or something i don’t delve a lot

[grim jay]

35 is plenty if you got the traits

Unless you physically cant pick up the orbs

For healing

[royal lantern]

heal brann lets you solo T8 delves on a fresh lvl 80character that has 0gear

just pick up the potions and thats it lol

[tiny brook]

Hi everyone, I’m new in discord. Came back to WoW recently and wanted to try class I always wanted to play which is Assasination Rogue. Can I find there some basics for it? Or someone would like to help me understand how to maintain energy at least? I’m still trying to understand those new subclasses that were released this expansion

[gloomy heart]

Kinda surprised we didn’t catch a nerf

[grim jay]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[slate crown]

!design Hi welcome, I think it'd be good to start reviewing the above guides Davyn linked if you're new, also regarding maintaining energy:

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[slate crown]

We'll be here if you have specific questions for the spec you come up with as you learn

[royal lantern]

eh, assa is less problematic then others

in raid its not insane strong

in m+ it has really good aoe dmg, but bad ST dmg aswell

[gloomy heart]

Yeah hoping i can gear my fire mage

[grim jay]

Idk they kinda made fire uninteresting to me

Dunno why

Arcane always was way more fun imo tho

[gloomy heart]

fire king

what is tomorrow affixed

[tiny brook]

Thank you very much. I ll read it in free time today

[normal mist]

In practice, this spec is easier on the gameplay than when reading the guide, because things make sense

You'll be pumping in no time

[rotund oak]

my little ponytails growing up slowly

almost 2mil

(yes its a 10 weekly)

[normal mist]

Proud of you homie, good job

[untold stone]

wich build @rotund oak ?

[rotund oak]

IW/MA ,the classic one

i dont rly give alot of thought when it comes on builds,everything is very close

plus ive done more keys on my mage than my rogue,kinda trying to catch up gear wise

[untold stone]

ah okey nice 🙂

[grizzled geyser]

pls download teleport menu and send 90% of that right actionbar to the shadow realm

[rotund oak]

yup thats based

usually i mask all my bars,thats me not thinking,just que'd for weeklies

[grizzled geyser]

teleport menu is legit cool

give it a look, its an addon not a WA

[rotund oak]

yeah,i got used to playing mage far too long

gonna check it out thx

[hallow sonnet]

Drove me crazy that it's on the game menu. Kept closing whatever I was doing to teleport and then not having enough time to reopen and navigate to whereever I was during the tp. Broke my flow :p

[grizzled geyser]

huh

seems like an error 40 :p

[hallow sonnet]

Yeah but like after 20 years of navigating menus and stuff in the "dead time" while you hs/port places gets you in a habit

[grizzled geyser]

Can still do that, just press esc once to close the menu right

anyway, i think its neat because it shows you the seasonal tp's to the current m+ season and all the other garbage like all the hearthstones, engineering ports etc in one place

[hallow sonnet]

Yeah but pressing esc to gain access to the menu removes whatever you have open.
Not a big deal, just went back to opie personally though

[warm vortex]

Boring Tuesday time

[oak tangle]

How long is maintenance?

[warm vortex]

SD over SB?

[warm vortex]

3000 years

[rotund oak]

its a 10,gains value ig

if mfkers gonna blow up the packs might as well cheese them

[warm vortex]

True

[true estuary]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[warm vortex]

Also I need to try fatebound and see how far I can get a streak

Tried it in M+ and got a small high

12

I feel like it would be amazing to get to 20 flips of the same side in a row

[rotund oak]

went into some thinking,when and how to send my cds,when to vanish,how to minmax my bleeds and all

no holding back

and its again obvious that u cant rly hold cds,ever in keys

we are jsut losing dmg

[warm vortex]

100%

If a boss is in like 40 sec, it still is worth to use kings

Cause what

Is the boss gonna die in 20sec

Highest streak in dungeon btw D:

[amber brook]

rare fatebound W?

[warm vortex]

Maybe once I get to 12 again I should just hold with CB

Remembered a point where I was at 12 and the coin buff had like 10sec left and CB was in 8

I risked it wanting to get 13 then guarantee 15

I see it go back to one

:(

[rotund oak]

life of a flipper

[warm vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/hes-all-in-he's-all-in-he's-all-in-cat-funny-cats-cat-gambling-gif-15778429614619440355

[tawdry mica]

How do you guys manage to do anything in tyranical bosses, like, after the first 2 minutes or so I’m so out of energy and abilities I just stand still

[warm vortex]

Just pool

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom

• For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[warm vortex]

Oh wow that’s out of date

Tldr
Get envenom buff
Build 5 or more cp
Wait for envenom buff to be like 0.4 sec from running out
Envenom

Repeat
Ofc with darkest night you want to get to 7 instead

[snow quest]

Is it worth triggering auto tea to get a darkest night off with envenom up?

[warm vortex]

Most likely no
You want to save those for kingsbane I belive

[tawdry mica]

I see that’s interesting

[warm vortex]

Yea

[tawdry mica]

I’ll try it out

[warm vortex]

Otherwise you’ll run out of energy if you just spam mutil and envenom

[snow quest]

Just feels so painful to let envenom run out with dn up

But you are probably right

[warm vortex]

Lemmie guess
4 cp
Mutilate
6 cp?

We all been there

[snow quest]

Very sad

[warm vortex]

But yea auto tea is annoying
IK it’s like
If you play perfect it won’t trigger
But still :(

I dislike it

[snow quest]

For outlaw it's fine, literally zero loss to just let it go off automatically

[warm vortex]

Oh rlly?

[snow quest]

For assa it's tedious imo

[warm vortex]

Do you just have a lot of energy from buried treasure or whatever the buff is

[blazing pumice]

mastery is dog shit for ol

[snow quest]

Yeah this

[blazing pumice]

and if you're low energy as ol something is going bad

[snow quest]

Only HO st build really uses tea as outlaw

[winged sun]

[warm vortex]

Ohhh fair

[winged sun]

Yes u dont need energy for kir

[warm vortex]

I tried it last night in aoe dummies and I was doing shit haha

[winged sun]

[warm vortex]

Maybe it’s cause I have 58% mast

[winged sun]

Although i think tea can be ok for bad kir players

[warm vortex]

Or something

[winged sun]

Nvm just dont play kir if ur bad

[warm vortex]

Just don’t play outlaw tho

[blazing pumice]

i just do what the WA tells me

[warm vortex]

Assa is better

JK

Play whatever the fuck you want

Outlaw is fun

[snow quest]

I've been messing around with assa a bit in keys now

[winged sun]

Why jk its ok to be toxic

The world is free right

[grim jay]

Offending outlaws isnt being toxic

Its righteous

[snow quest]

I miss the mobility from outlaw mostly

[warm vortex]

There’s a difference between being toxic and an asshole for no reason X)

[winged sun]

shadowstep being removed was a huge outlaw mobility nerf

[warm vortex]

You seen the PvP clips?

[winged sun]

Rly bad change

[snow quest]

Nah

[winged sun]

Unbearable

[warm vortex]

Someone grabbing an orb at the enemy base on that panda PvP map

It’s so funny how much burst mobility 4x hook gives you

[snow quest]

4 grapple and perma sprint is crazy

[winged sun]

For running yes

But

[snow quest]

Step range is so short

[winged sun]

Actual difficult gameplay? No

Its practically a bad mobility feature

Overkill in an unnecessary way

[winged sun]

Doesnt matter its good enough

[warm vortex]

Tbh I can prolly play other things now

[winged sun]

Step isnt for u to reach places faster

Its to overcome mechanics in fights

[warm vortex]

Cause I hit the goal I want

Repost ik

But still

[warm vortex]

But yea, nuts how out has this much mobility in PvP

[snow quest]

I do like not worrying about adrenaline rush or downtime in general as much. And actually contributing in big pulls

[warm vortex]

Yea

[snow quest]

Assa aoe is a lot of fun too

St not so much

[warm vortex]

It’s so fun when shit lives

And on a boss you see ads spawn and think

“Oh now I can give the boss CT”

[snow quest]

Ooh energy

[warm vortex]

Oh is that an ad gonna live for 2 seconds

Here’s a rupture
Anddd
Here’s my energy

Last boss of Ara is so fun as Assa

Never have to run out of melee of the boss if played right

[snow quest]

You can step the pull there right?

[warm vortex]

(Which I can’t do lol)

I belive so

I just don’t risk it as I’m not good nuff

Or cloak

And all the slimes are free rupture energy and CT for boss

[rotund oak]

yup the pirate is wicked for pvp rn

even in arena

very good

[warm vortex]

The fucking gillneas clip is nuts to me

[subtle tundra]

never even tried it

dont care!

im going out of melee, and cloaking the one in my cds

i dot the add i spawn

[snow quest]

Doesn't really hurt assa that bad to move out

Not like outlaw at least

[warm vortex]

Why for outlaw

[snow quest]

Need uptime on boss to keep adrenaline rush up, cdr etc

But I just grapple it as outlaw

[subtle tundra]

erm

[warm vortex]

I felt like outlaw was the most rangey of the rogue specs cause of the good old

adren rush sound into vanish
BANG chckc BANG chckc BANG

[subtle tundra]

hit yo add

[warm vortex]

Also Varas did you see

[subtle tundra]

i cant see

[warm vortex]

I hit 3K :D

[subtle tundra]

no eyes

awesome

[warm vortex]

DH confirmed?

[opal quail]

I saw this wow highlight video the other day with a sin pov. The sin had some nice wa for envenom/kb/rupture. Anyone know about a nice wa package for tracking dots?

[warm vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/bongo-cat-demon-hunter-wow-gif-22567542

[subtle tundra]

dick hunter

maybe

😋

man i need some rio injection

soon

i cant...

[warm vortex]

Why

Don’t you wanna earn it organically

Injects are bad, winners don’t do boosts

[warm vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-sunakook-tired-exhausted-gif-24687868

[warm vortex]

But yea what’s your score atm

[subtle tundra]

3475 or something

but we can do all 17s except grimba rn
and 2 18s

[warm vortex]

And I thought my 3K was sorta high

lol

[subtle tundra]

we just keep choking

just like i wanna choke it all the time

[warm vortex]

What you are known for mister penis hunter

[subtle tundra]

choking it

[warm vortex]

[subtle tundra]

hmm

it looks like a ballsack

just 1 ball

nice detail, blizz

[warm vortex]

Why are your balls covered in blood

[subtle tundra]

take the sack off and see whats in there

spoiler: blood

[raven phoenix]

no it's pee

[cyan karma]

Do you stream @subtle tundra ?

[subtle tundra]

i do stream yea

when i push

[cyan karma]

Mad, I’ll come check you out. That’s a huge score

[subtle tundra]

tonight is pushday

[warm vortex]

Exsanguwunate
Dwoombwade
Or swanguwine bwades

[warm vortex]

He also has a huge cock

He shows on stream

[subtle tundra]

no misinformation in my discord please

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-sunakook-tired-exhausted-gif-24687868

[warm vortex]

D:

Is it more of a tiny toxic blade

[subtle tundra]

i call it, Kingsbane

cause its every king's bane

👿

[warm vortex]

Mines called serrated bone spike

Reminder of the historic moment

[subtle tundra]

unlovedvaras has had some such moments

[cyan karma]

12 second window?

[subtle tundra]

its 14 seconds long but i vanish in the last 6...

[cyan karma]

Yooooo 😆

That’s a meta play fr

[warm vortex]

Yea

Tbh Varas is like

He plays rogue as an alt

He mains tank

[subtle tundra]

and im actually a monk fanboy

(monk buffs tomorrow)

[brave comet]

i cant seem to be doing well in multi target bosses like council and ovinax

[warm vortex]

Hmmm

You got any logs for it

[brave comet]

no.

[warm vortex]

Also mythic? Heroic?

[brave comet]

heroic

[warm vortex]

Are tanks stacking bugs on heroic

For court

And maybe add are melting the second they appear

[brave comet]

i really dont think so on bugs, they seem to die on the way to the boss if its not the tanking bug

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/moon-guard/joohara#difficulty=4

i'm still blue parsing on both those bosses

[warm vortex]

KK
I’m not that good at looking at logs tbf so idk sometimes
I have to do tripwire on court so my parses aren’t always the best

[subtle tundra]

its ok i cant parse brood either

[grim jay]

Thats actually understandable

I would be one aswell

If the fof animation wouldnt annoy me as hard

Now I can only play it occassionally

[subtle tundra]

i love canceling fof cause i need to kick/cc

! ! ! !

or defensive!

i love being locked in air!

[grim jay]

I love canceling fof in general, if it wouldnt be a loss sometimes

[warm vortex]

Bro

That’s how it works

[grim jay]

But the skill feels so good

[warm vortex]

That’s so stinky

[subtle tundra]

you used to cancel it intentionally

[grim jay]

Ye. They should just make it a 1s channel or something

So it sucks less

[subtle tundra]

its cool though cause theres so many gameplay altering talents for monk

you swap 1 talent and suddenly your rota is completely different

[golden loom]

Just play normal raid spec with spatter instead

[grim jay]

I wish tank monk wouldnt be as hit or miss

Because my alt usually does some tanking aswell

[warm vortex]

Tbf

When I see a brew

They either die instantly or don’t die ever

[subtle tundra]

yea cause youre either the greatest player ever, or you cant live on that spec

[worldly sail]

what the other guy said, you seem to be using m+ talents which is not good for raid. also you seem to randomly send shiv so then you dont have it for kingsbane windows (nvm, thats what you're supposed to do on m+ build. kek)

[vestal eagle]

is sac really better then crystal in m+? I feel like its a trap

[brave comet]

for council i shouldnt be using the recommended M+ build?

[novel star]

no

[grim jay]

I think brew would be infinitely stronger if you could use a glyph to turn your kegsmash into red turtle shells and your big keg into the blue shell with wings

[worldly sail]

silken court is 2 target really, even on ovinax you don't want a m+ build

[brave comet]

i was just following the guide on wowhead

heh

[subtle tundra]

true true true

[brave comet]

well thank you

[subtle tundra]

or just play drunk irl and get buffed in game

[grim jay]

Thats based

But you need to drink directly from a keg

Else it wont work

[subtle tundra]

i miss playing games drunk

aaaaaarrrghhhhhhhhhhhh

[novel star]

get drunk then

[grim jay]

A streamer girl friend from back then used to do LoL drinking games with me

That was based

[subtle tundra]

my alcohol intake has lowered by like 90%

im a pussy

[worldly sail]

wowhead has this listed for "council" when i check, which seems to be the same as the raid cleave build on the page

although the description says it has crimson tempest so idk, i guess the description is outdated

[grim jay]

Same, its fine

[warm vortex]

Depends on what sims say

[grim jay]

I drink like once every 4 months or something

[warm vortex]

For me, when they were both the same ilevel crystal was simming higher

[subtle tundra]

i might drink a bit once a week or two, but i dont get drunk anymore
last time i did was 2months ago

[vestal eagle]

sac sims terrible low for me somehow

[subtle tundra]

i feel like i just dont have the time to waste being drunk and hungover

[brave comet]

they changed it, you can see in the text it still mentions tempest

[worldly sail]

[onyx rock]

20 years for me lol

[grim jay]

Well bcs it aint great for ST

[subtle tundra]

yea im not that old....

[brave comet]

so you recommend the spatter build (variation of single target) even for ovinax?

[golden loom]

I personally dont run CT on heroic ovi cause I feel the adds die way too fast anyways

[worldly sail]

on heroic? yes. on mythic i play crimson tempest

[grim jay]

Last time I was drunk drunk was like 10 years ago and we arent far apart in years

[subtle tundra]

ive had character developement

(suffering builds character)

[grim jay]

So you mean to say the alcohol was your fuel

For the development process

[worldly sail]

and going back to the silken court log, m+ build probably made you starve for energy, this is your energy graph for the fight

and this is mine from the last time i did it

could also be misplays too much spamming etc, but i just woke up and dont want to go through log casts

[subtle tundra]

no i was an alcohol enjoyer, then i got sad, now i dont like getting drunk

[warm vortex]

Hmmm, what’s your current gear and stats?
Maybe you have a lot of haste or smth

[brave comet]

i just spam builders for envenom, i was told that just generally assassination is a spec that is starved out of energy

[worldly sail]

yeah, but the m+ build feels like it runs out of fuel way faster and then you struggle to keep up envenom

[brave comet]

gotcha

[subtle tundra]

with raid build it really isnt, especially in more than 1T

[grim jay]

Im proud of you

The only person that cant(shouldnt) stop drinking is Whispyr

[subtle tundra]

he is content

[onyx rock]

Musclebrah is content

Cringe content

[worldly sail]

ok i looked a bit more, for the last half of the fight you forgot to reapply garrote and rupture to the skinny boss big gain if you make sure to keep both bleeds up on both bosses as much as possible (ENERGY REGEN!!)

[subtle tundra]

theres no popular assa streamer i like except kussh

smh...

[onyx rock]

I like Nibren but he only raids

[vestal eagle]

im 630, i sim everything. Just tried simming the trinkets again with imported route from MDT and sac, crystal, grace all within 0,1%

[brave comet]

oh damn! thank you for the advice!

[golden loom]

kush stream is great even just for the music

[subtle tundra]

dont sim route

they are not optimize at all

random aaah shit

[vestal eagle]

why? i was told to do so ;_;

[subtle tundra]

by whom...

[vestal eagle]

method.gg

[subtle tundra]

yea

exactly

[onyx rock]

You are overthinking Tuneboy

[vestal eagle]

but in DF basically everyone was saying that Dungeonslice is dog so i started doing simming route

[subtle tundra]

it varies from spec to spec

[onyx rock]

Dungeonslice is fine for rogue

[subtle tundra]

i dont know a single person simming route

its just... worse

[vestal eagle]

oh well here goes my sims x)

[vestal eagle]

so how do you sim m+

[subtle tundra]

dslice

i mostly dont sim

dslice + st

[worldly sail]

i think you meant to say dungeon route here

[onyx rock]

Yeah you can sim dslice and also just go by feeling. Dont pull out your hair over a 0.% Trinket difference

[subtle tundra]

yes true

[vestal eagle]

ah now makes sense lol

[subtle tundra]

i am eepy

sowwy

[vestal eagle]

ok ok gotcha 🙂

[warm vortex]

Huh fair

[vestal eagle]

hard to get what you should do and what not 😄
i remember in S1 DF as a fury there was a embwith haste for 10sec after the fight started or something. Was super good in the dslice sim but if you go highkey its L since mobs live way longer and dslice sims a short uptime of a mob

[warm vortex]

The only
Time I use it is when I’m simming my beast masters non Trink items

[subtle tundra]

we have that too, stealth effects

[subtle tundra]

but stealth effects are very very strong

[vestal eagle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qzXcK17hZmbiFLmUwG7ciM

[warm vortex]

Ew belf

[subtle tundra]

800 dps is margin of error

[warm vortex]

I might sim mine rq

Oh fuck

Last build I was on with

Isn’t the most optimal build

So I’ll sim low

[subtle tundra]

also dslice adds are like 50 sec - 1 min

which lines up with m+ durations most of the time

even high keys

[warm vortex]

This was the last build I had on so imma sim low

XD

[subtle tundra]

if your packs live longer than that, youre not timing the key probably

sure theres longer packs, but also theres packs that die in 30sec where everyone pops cds

yes in 17s

[grim jay]

People in other discords are so unspecific its actually eww

They always say dslice is shit

Instead of saying dslice is shit for x

[warm vortex]

It’s gonna have all the buffs on the sim so it might not be accurate

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4QrzGcVR53ts2xNVMc6SDN

Also using the shit build

I remember someone describing the pic as “strong aura” lmao

[vestal eagle]

yeah i also have all the raid buffs disabled in the sim, not sure if its wise but makes more sense

[warm vortex]

Yea I’m just on my phone and couldn’t edit it for some reason

[normal mist]

Someone was right

[warm vortex]

True

Also you know what imma say and ask royal

Haha

[subtle tundra]

live varas reaction

im so veiny holy

[warm vortex]

I red the message and was so concerned

“Live Varas reaction, I’m so veiny holy”

[worldly sail]

[warm vortex]

“Me THAT kind of orc”

[normal mist]

Hello to you too, hope you're doing alright and that your family managed to fix the fence, that was damaged the other day.
I'm doing alright myself :3

[warm vortex]

We have just put a replacement fence for now

Also
Spent a lot of money fixing the car. It had a thing that said “engine faliure workshop”
Started not having any pull
Mum got it back after it was fixed
And the error came up again before she got me to the station

[mystic quiver]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[steel ridge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[royal lantern]

#1080572530554835072 👉 🚪

[gloomy flax]

Hey guys , i noticed that my envenoms are doing way less dmg in ST than any other rogue i see in the raids. Ive asked them about stats and most of them have less mastery but more crit , which makes no sense since their envenoms average way more.dmg than mine am i missing something ?

[rare jackal]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[warm vortex]

How are you using enven

Personally I semi pool it
Always going for 5 or more cp unless DN

[wet grotto]

could anyone help me understand how to read logs and improve? I feel like i did pretty good but % logs tells different story

[warm vortex]

In what

Raid or M+

[wet grotto]

raid

[warm vortex]

Hmmm
Tbh I’m not the best at reading logs but like

Are you refreshing your bleeds (minus improved gar) in pandemic?
Keeping your enven up
Having DN as top prio
Making sure to stay in melee at all points
Using all consumes
Full enchants and sockets?

[brazen sluice]

any1 got shadowmeld into stealth macro?

[wet grotto]

i did not had cloak enchant but it should not be that much of a impact

[subtle tundra]

cloak enchant isnt even a dps enchant

[wet grotto]

also my worst is on sikran where is single target

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JdM7N4RLp68AWBTt#fight=28&type=summary&source=289

[warm vortex]

You cloaking the first sweep and shadow stepping the charges

[subtle tundra]

your gear is bad
you have no sockets
you have bad enchants

your off hand is high ilvl

-.-

bruh

[wet grotto]

is that really that much of a impact? guild told me that gear is not that important and you can have good logs with bad gear

[subtle tundra]

yes buddy your gear is important

[wet grotto]

huh how that happended

[warm vortex]

I mean you can but your weapons are the wrong way round

And yknow what improves a perfect rota? More gear

[subtle tundra]

you have 0/6 sockets that you can buy from AH

[warm vortex]

But they are sort of right?

Like

If you know how to play perfectly, you’ll do better than someone who is a few ilevels higher if they don’t know

[subtle tundra]

and i didnt even look at your rota

620 ilvl is very low rn

[balmy condor]

no on use trinket

[warm vortex]

Yo it’s Whispyr

[wet grotto]

i tried to get one but no luck

[balmy condor]

this gear is painful man

[subtle tundra]

you didnt use vanish at all

on opener

[golden loom]

this dps diff is all ilvl right

[warm vortex]

Wait were you running splatter on sikran too

[subtle tundra]

your tea uses are sus

[hearty reef]

hi whuspyr

[balmy condor]

hello

[rotund oak]

i can understand everything but there is no excuse to put the highest ilvl on offhand

switch it right now before i jump out of ur screen and slap u

[balmy condor]

rotation is kinda fine

[rotund oak]

respectfully

[balmy condor]

lowkey

[subtle tundra]

not like theres much to fuck up

[balmy condor]

yeh

[subtle tundra]

but vanish and tea

also he could play perfectly and not do well with that gear

6 sockets should be quite a lot of dps by itself

[golden loom]

shadowstepping is lowkey scary sometimes on sikran

[warm vortex]

Bro I’m super bad at this game and I misplay lol

[warm vortex]

It’s heroic

[golden loom]

just yeeting off the edge wooo

[warm vortex]

So there shouldn’t be much worry as you can outheal most tbings

[rotund oak]

sikran needs to calm down before we call Lin and slap her off the edge

(yes lin is whispyr's cat)

[balmy condor]

you are the only mfer on this earth that calls him that

[subtle tundra]

lean?

lean is a good boy

[wet grotto]

Ok thanks, (weapons are switched already) and gems will be done soon

[tawdry mica]

Are you stacking haste mastery?

[wet grotto]

I will look into Vanish i tought it supposed to be used on second cooldowns

[wet grotto]

I don’t know

Im just trying to follow guides

[tawdry mica]

I see tons of haste on your gear too

[balmy condor]

I mean

bro just doesn't have gear

[golden loom]

vanish dm are both 2 min cooldowns so pop them with eachother 🐱

[balmy condor]

who gives a shit about the secondaries on his gear

when it's all 619

[lilac gale]

!macro

[balmy condor]

I'm 635 and still couldn't care about secondaries

[tawdry mica]

For heroic 619/620 is perfectly fine though :/

[balmy condor]

yeh ofc it is

but its inherently going to be unoptimized

[wet grotto]

Im not accepted on mythic runs and m+ is a pain

[balmy condor]

no point in worrying about secondaries on stuff that will be replaced

[tawdry mica]

yeah that's right

[warm vortex]

Tertiary stats are where it’s at

[crimson zephyr]

People say assa is an easy spec in m+. I don't really play anything else so hard to compare for me but do most people just have an easy time getting most out of their assa? I play m+ for a few weeks now and I think I'm still underperforming, getting better slowly. Doesn't feel easy to me 😆

[warm vortex]

Mass stack speed

Faster runs back when you wipe

[rotund oak]

Im sorry,cant cope saying a cat Linux,he is such a

[warm vortex]

Most people say Assa is one of the harder M+ ones no?
ST it’s easy

[tawdry mica]

For me it's not easy in m+ 😭

[balmy condor]

m+ can be tricky if you're paranoid and overthink everything

if you just accept that you spread bleeds and then pound your keyboard into your caustic target

rinse repeat

it gets a ton easier

[crimson zephyr]

I'd say ST is easy yes. ST in m+ is depressing tho. Haha

[warm vortex]

Yea

Just remember to spread bleeds then go nuts

[balmy condor]

#1 mistake in m+ is just caring too much

[subtle tundra]

id argue it is playing it

[warm vortex]

Also whispyr I need to try your build again on a 12

As it doesn’t have SBS I need time

[balmy condor]

like just get some ruptures out, spread your garrotes from stealth if you can

maintain CT

press mut on something

spam envenom

it ain't that bad

[warm vortex]

Question tho, CT is top prio right? In pandemic or so we proo DN over it

[balmy condor]

yes

[warm vortex]

Kk

[golden loom]

spread bleeds kick 1 mob kidney another die to a frontal release and run back is the optimal rotation

[warm vortex]

Got it

[crimson zephyr]

I think I suck at handling a lot of information at once. So maybe I firget CT upjeep or have a few foks/envs eithout spatter etc.

I'm basically hardstuck 10/11s cause my dmg isn't where it should be, but anyway, I know my mistakes. 😄

[subtle tundra]

whispyr, if pack lives, lets say 1min
what if i vanish at the last 6 seconds of kb and use the other 6 seconds to spread bleeds with ic.. did i cock?!?

[warm vortex]

Tbf CT is the only thing I’m struggling with because I somehow forget it

[balmy condor]

yeh that's just dot spec idk

[crimson zephyr]

Random but do you guys take toxic blades in GB?

[warm vortex]

Btw whisp
The pooling command is a bit out of date

[balmy condor]

so..... just doing the rotation?

[subtle tundra]

nice

[golden loom]

has someone made a yellow outline for its pandemic on plater just like rupture and garrote has, that would make it easier to remember (talking about whispyrs plater pack)

[warm vortex]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom

• For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[subtle tundra]

i vanish at 12 normally

[warm vortex]

Says Assa runs VV in ST

[warm vortex]

I use Whispyra

It tells me when pandemic

[golden loom]

for CT?

😮

[warm vortex]

No not for CT I think

Idk

You could easily change it and add it

If it doesn’t have it

Idk how to but I’m sure someone here does

[golden loom]

I think thats the problem my mokey brain has, cause I am so wired into pressing garrote and rupture when it turns yellow

but CT doesnt so I just forget

[warm vortex]

Tbh sometimes I press like 2 more garrotes in big packs with pugs and IW

Like 2nd pull of GB

I don’t trust them

[subtle tundra]

i dont trust my premade team, its understandable

[golden loom]

garrote over fan of knives as a builder

[warm vortex]

Garrote over envenom as a finisher

[tawdry mica]

lol

[wet grotto]

are my stats all over a place and should i use other gems instead of recommended in guides?

[balmy condor]

!update

[prisma monolith]

Updated.

[balmy condor]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

• Energy just is low on the spec there's nothing to do about it
• Super Min-Max stuff includes avoiding the auto proc of tea (less than +0.2%, tea/shiv macro is optimal)
• Refreshing Envenom in pandemic instead of spamming it (mostly relevant for m+ without TTK, can be up to 0.5%)
• Otherwise nothing matters. Pooling before kingsbanes isn't important because of tea lining up and deathmark giving a huge surge of energy

[balmy condor]

happy?

[warm vortex]

I love you so much

[balmy condor]

np

[tawdry mica]

You will (should) change your gear so I wouldn't bother spending on gems rn

[warm vortex]

Just asked as someone asked earlier and I did the command and I just saw the VV notes
Seriously though tysm!

[balmy condor]

yeh

[tawdry mica]

At least on pieces that you know for sure you will swap out

[balmy condor]

happens

[warm vortex]

I mean unless you are super rich and can afford gems

[tawdry mica]

yeah

[warm vortex]

Get out there and do some mythic raiding and slots

It’s v easy to get 4 slots at minimum a week

Was doing pug RL on my arms alt at 618 ilevel

First 2 bosses at least

[wet grotto]

the problem is that noone want to include me in a group because 'your logs are shit'

[warm vortex]

And by RL I mean making me the host

[warm vortex]

Host one

[wet grotto]

thats the reason im here 😄

[warm vortex]

That’s what I did on my war

I got the worst logs I’ve ever seen in my entire life that night

10 and 0

[arctic socket]

W carry

[golden loom]

my fury warrior has a solid 3 parse on mythic ulgrax

[warm vortex]

Legend

Arms go pfrrtt

With my little knowledge

[arctic socket]

At least yall are killing the bosses though

[golden loom]

died to first charge and didnt get ressed so had the best time in the raid (watching others kill it)

[tawdry mica]

[iron carbon]

That fight is fcking long when you lick the floor

[midnight mist]

When it says "pooling before kb isn't important etc.." what if I don't have tea cause I got fucked over by auto tea or whatever reason, and I'm not in deathmark, is it not bad to go into kb and being able to do like 3 finishers cause you start with 0 energy or

[tawdry mica]

Ulgrax boring af boss

[golden loom]

its so cringe and boring

[balmy condor]

no

non-dm kingsbanes are noodles

[iron carbon]

Should not happen a lot tbh

Cuz you sync one tea charge with kb

[balmy condor]

zac is an m+ player

he can come up with a reason not to

[iron carbon]

Ikr

[balmy condor]

cannot argue with these people

[warm vortex]

Wait non DM kingsbane is rlly that bad?

It’s due to the ramp speed I assume

[iron carbon]

A French M+ player**
Arguing is at difficulty max

[dense badger]

What’s the command for the tea macro pls?

[balmy condor]

lack of ramp, lack of lethal dose stacks

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[iron carbon]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[dense badger]

Ty!!

[warm vortex]

Too slow hen

Smh

[iron carbon]

Yup

As usual

[warm vortex]

Ohhhh lethal dose

Keep forgetting it

[iron carbon]

I'm on phone

[warm vortex]

Until someone says that non lethal aren’t a dps increase

Hi on phone

[midnight mist]

Okok

[warm vessel]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[midnight mist]

Well the reason is cause I suck and auto tea spend my tea idk

[warm vortex]

Maybe your the noodle zack

[midnight mist]

Is that a bad reason

I'm just bad fr

[warm vortex]

True

[balmy condor]

yeah but kb is 1 min and tea is 1 min

so like

shouldn't really happen

is the point

but whatever

not gonna squabble over m+ nonsense

[warm vortex]

I was gonna say shiv on cd removes tea but it always lines up still right

[iron carbon]

Yup

[balmy condor]

yes

1 min is 1 min

[golden loom]

put that in the pins

[subtle tundra]

spam 2-3 tea charges first pull so its on cd all the time

[warm vortex]

What if you choke on the tea and can’t down it

[midnight mist]

Ok but in m+ you don't always send in cd

[warm vortex]

Why wouldent you send shiv on CD

[subtle tundra]

but its also kb desync aaaaaa

[tawdry mica]

really makes you think

[subtle tundra]

why would you send shiv on cd

youre actively trolling in m+ if you do

[warm vortex]

Damage

[midnight mist]

I could be in a situation where I like, hold kb at the end of a pack, but then accidentally send tea cause auto tea

And then I don't have tea with kb anymore

And they are de synced

[warm vortex]

Skill issue

Genuinely

[coral ibex]

don’t ever put me in a situation

[iron carbon]

Skill issue, right

[midnight mist]

Maybe skill issue

[warm vortex]

Imma put you in a situation

[subtle tundra]

youre not seli

[midnight mist]

[warm vortex]

No genuinely it is
I do it too

Cause I’m
Bad

[midnight mist]

Idk I find auto tea annoying as hell but

[iron carbon]

Don't sit on KB I guess kekw

[warm vortex]

Oh yea it fucking sucks

[subtle tundra]

nah youre right
it can be "skill issue" but why add this "skill"

[warm vortex]

Auto use tea is a pain

[midnight mist]

I mean if pack is dying Im not pressing kb

I didn't know kb was bad bad tho

Is it bad bad

[subtle tundra]

you use kb at 10%?

[warm vortex]

It’s still more damage to press Kb than to not

[rotund oak]

send that mfker

dont ask

[golden loom]

if u know ur gonna hold KB then maybe dont fully slam keyboard to stay over 30 energy would be a solution

[midnight mist]

If I'm in a situation where I have kb ready and deathmark in 30 s

[warm vortex]

Kingsbane yourself

[subtle tundra]

yea bud

[midnight mist]

Do you kb or hold

[iron carbon]

I use KB if pack lives 15 sec or more

[warm vortex]

Then splatter yourself

Bam walking bomb

[subtle tundra]

then dm is in 30sec and you wont have kb dm for next pull at start

and you make the next pull 3 times harder

nice

you just actively trolled

[iron carbon]

What?

[subtle tundra]

whatever

[warm vortex]

I mean if you use KB exactly every 1 min and DM every 2 min they will always line up

It’s a good idea

Trust

[subtle tundra]

i swear why do i have to fucking side with zac
why is zac the only person using logic

[midnight mist]

Smart

[warm vortex]

Totally not a bad idea

[subtle tundra]

fucking french

[midnight mist]

I'm sorry varas

[iron carbon]

What the point with DM?

[hearty coral]

boralus +2 598 ilvl .. looks correct ? also.. low dmg? thanks

[midnight mist]

If it can help you

[warm vortex]

Bro I’m not arguing against Zack abt KB who you mean everyone?

[midnight mist]

I hate assa

[warm vortex]

Wait Zack is French?

[midnight mist]

And I'm considering quiting

[rotund oak]

this^

[rare jackal]

heartbreaking: outlaw player made a great point about assa

[balmy condor]

your caustic should be doing about 400% more

[subtle tundra]

well,yea, if you dont enjoy yourself, dont play

[iron carbon]

So I fcking keep my kb sync with dm

[midnight mist]

Come back next season when outlaw is playable no cap

[subtle tundra]

its that shrimple

i didnt push at all in df

[hearty coral]

even if adds dying too fast?

[balmy condor]

I mean in a 2 obviously you can't dps

I mean like

[rotund oak]

its basicly always sync'd,dont hold,10% means nothing if u are the only one doing dmg,if the pack is blown up ofc u dont send,no point

[balmy condor]

in a real key

[subtle tundra]

only reason i push rn is that assa is tuned very highly so i can excuse the shitty gameplay(for me)

[royal lantern]

"anonying as hell" is a good way to say it tbh

is it a big deal overall? nah, ofc not

does it feel really bad sometimes? yeha

[midnight mist]

I hate death stalker also

I just wanna target swap

[subtle tundra]

i cant wait for shadowlands classic

[iron carbon]

If my kb cooldown is back and pack will last the whole duration of it, I use

[royal lantern]

i hate deathstalker and cringeflipper :3

[subtle tundra]

i loveeeeeeeeee artificial friction

[midnight mist]

Why doesn't garotte apply death stalker

[midnight mist]

You know that

I'm Perma pulling for my tank when I play coin

Like idk how this is acceptable either

It's just so mega cringe

[iron carbon]

Why would I sit on it 15 sec + next pack setup and when DM is back, not having kb

Or sit on it 1 min?

It's q fcking nonsense

[warm vortex]

Guys
Just use your CDs when needed

[royal lantern]

i thougt fatebound was kinda allright until i did a full heroic clear and got the capstone 2x in 8bosses

fuck fatebound, how did that shit leave the drawing board

[subtle tundra]

i love losing coin buff!!!!!!

[arctic socket]

What is a real key now

A 12?

[subtle tundra]

the key level where you play and shit doesnt die insta

[arctic socket]

Yeah

What’s that

[balmy condor]

any key where your sudden demise isn't higher than your caustic lmao

[subtle tundra]

depends on group

[royal lantern]

10+ mostly

[balmy condor]

yeh 10+ is fine

[subtle tundra]

my answer would be 16

[warm vortex]

Tbh I use KB if:
it’s off CD
I need it
We aren’t ending or mid pull
Boss isn’t like 2 seconds later

[balmy condor]

vault keys look similiar in output

[subtle tundra]

your answer can be something else

[iron carbon]

So you prefer sit on it 1 min or sit on ur DM 30 sec?

[royal lantern]

dm+kb is the actually important kb Cast

[iron carbon]

That's why I press it on cd if mob will live whole duration

When it's the kb without dm

So I can keep cd sync

[warm vortex]

Tbh I also look at the DM timer too
Cause yea lining them up is importnant

Tbh most of the times in pugs, whenever I DM there is a 50% chance it dies first in the pack even if it isn’t a high importance mob to focus

[iron carbon]

So I don't get players telling me I'm trolling sending it on cd when I benefit from whole duration

[dense badger]

Just do the most dps in your group then no one can say anything

[tawdry mica]

[iron carbon]

I'm don't play with Varas

[tawdry mica]

I really should start doing +12 keys so I can see my "real" damage

[neat plank]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[subtle tundra]

true

[royal lantern]

dont

doing m+ beyond the vault levels is asking for pointless suffering

in 20years the FBI will use m+ as a torture device

[tawdry mica]

Can't deny it

But Xalatah giving me infinite mastery feels so wrong

[dense badger]

10s are so boring though, you get an enha shammy and frost dk in group and the packs are dead by the time you press your 2nd garrote

[toxic badge]

Hello guys, quick question. The hero talent Momentum of Despair increases the critical damage just of the Tempest or all spells for that duration?

[tawdry mica]

From what I understand just those spells

FoK CT in this case

[toxic badge]

Yeah seems like it, but its hard to tell since it is written the way it is.

[lethal turtle]

We love CT

[marsh rampart]

how do i sim assa for m+ patchwerk of duneon slice ?

[tawdry mica]

I was told dslice is ok

[marsh rampart]

ok

[iron carbon]

To be exact, it's the less bad

[tawdry mica]

I see

I used to do the 5 targets 1 min / 1 target 5 min sim for dev evoker, don't know the "optimal" for assa

and I would like to know

[west crown]

Dsclice

[royal lantern]

Dslice ye

[tawdry mica]

alright alright

[dapper cradle]

easiest 639 skardyn's grace of my life today

gonna pull that shit

or rash cloak

[raw dock]

Guys do we have a scrpit/mode that change the plate color of the target with Deathstalker's Mark?

[zinc vortex]

i have a question guys. if a big pull is happening for ex 1st necrotic wake pull. is it betterr to spread more bleed and garrotte or is it better to get fast to the spatter time ? keylevel about 12+

[crimson zephyr]

filters are limited here?

[glacial stump]

Depends on the key level and what build youre running i guess

[crimson zephyr]

how come I can't use from: metnione: etc in this channel?

[glacial stump]

you can

[crimson zephyr]

ah lol for some random reason streamer mode was enabled o.O nvm

[rotund oak]

did this NW earlier today had a lil bit above 5mil on that pack.Ive went into garx2x=>rupx2=>vanish=>garx2=>ct=>cds

but its probably very small gain

u want 5 scent stacks and send ur cds

thats all pretty much

[coral ibex]

i have no myth raid boxes this week bc extending on court

hope my m+ boxes are decent

[wise whale]

2 bracers & a cape gg

[shy creek]

dont curse me like that man wtf

[wise whale]

if you prepull ur vault with shroud it works out a lil better

i always cloak before clicking too

take long cloak & if cloak expires before vault loads its just ocarinas everywhere

[rotund oak]

My thought process is much simplier

skadryns,crystal or spyglass==>grab

if not==>socket

Craft engi head 🤝

[wise whale]

kinda goated

you had me at "simplier" tbh

[golden loom]

I hate wednesdays, its the only office day I have and all I can do is think about whats in my vault at home

[royal lantern]

open it before going to work....?

[deep gyro]

Im doing this today

[golden loom]

it opens at 7 am and I leave like an hour before

[royal lantern]

oof

[golden loom]

so it just lines up the worst possible way

[royal lantern]

blame traffic

[royal lantern]

making yourself immune against bad luck

smart move mate

[normal mist]

Ask your girlfriend to do it

Works for me

[iron carbon]

Issue is that you need a gf

[royal lantern]

you know the oldest vault strat in the game?

[normal mist]

The one I currently use yes

[royal lantern]

ask @outer lotus to bless your vault

[normal mist]

Don't have a vault.

[tidal dagger]

Google remote desktop

[coral ibex]

the only upgrades from my vault atm are myth very rares or myth rings

socket week for me i think

[golden loom]

if I get 1 from vault then thats next weeks strat

[blazing totem]

oh no I just got this

don't have much better

now I need to track it or get stunned >.<

[wise whale]

precloak your vaults & @ me with your myth track trinkies merry christmas o7

[spice spire]

Appreciate the vibes given

[icy acorn]

it cant be worse than my shitty 3 myth track rings last week right?

[wet grotto]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[wise whale]

if you get coal in ur vault dont @ me no refunds

[spice spire]

I will @ you directly

[fresh schooner]

what do u guys think dropping saquine blades for TTK?

for m+

[quiet oar]

I wish you would add me to your bedroom

Ong

I mean

What?

[snow kindle]

from pure feelcraft that sounds pretty bad. since sanguine is up practically 24/7 in big packs.

[lethal turtle]

If you show vault pics with grace in it today, you will be timed out

[fresh schooner]

i am still confused also about running master assassin or TTK for burst on tirna/nekro

[spice spire]

Mfs tryna tempt me in the holy month of November? Miss me w that

[fresh schooner]

cause my team wants me to run fucking ironwire everywhere

[snow kindle]

anyone whos running ttk drops MA or IW either one is fine

[lethal turtle]

u do not need IW besides like 3. and even those 3 its droppable unless ur team is potato