#assassination

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novel star
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no way

subtle tundra
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crazy that he is wrong

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objectively

novel star
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this one guy baiting everyone in the channel

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self included

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insane harvest

balmy condor
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My favorite type of discord dwellers are the ones that clearly hate the topic of the discord but still stick around to bitch about how much they hate it

subtle tundra
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whispyr...

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im 23 today

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23 years of happy!

balmy condor
shy marten
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hey i said the spec felt unfriendly and someone asked how so

balmy condor
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Yeah but I mean

subtle tundra
balmy condor
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They listed 4 specs and you said they’re all more fun

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So like

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Tf are you doing here

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Go have fun

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It’s a video game

shy marten
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i wanted to try assa i tried it

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good experience

balmy condor
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Fair enough

novel star
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Based

shy marten
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not the worse experience for sure there have been some pretty bad specs that i didn't like at all

royal lantern
rare isle
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Have my opinion instead, it's better for sure (no bias here ofc 😁). I have played the game for 20 years. I have tried all specs multiple times. And I always land in the conclusion that assarogue is BiS.

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With the exception of burning crusade, it felt clunky and envenom consumin deadly-poison stacks was not the most fun game design

balmy condor
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Okay but like an hour ago your opinion was broodtwister was worse than court

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So how trustworthy is your opinion REALLY

royal lantern
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it was tbc, you played mostly combat anyway lol

balmy condor
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TBC was a wild time

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Anything pre-mop honestly

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It’s like the current talent trees but after they drank half a bottle of window cleaner

rare isle
rare isle
royal lantern
balmy condor
royal lantern
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brood sucks cus a big part of the fight is "lol xddddd you cant see stuff xdddd"

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court just sucks

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our RL yesterday had a rant about the bettles that spawn with "why do they even exist? they add nothing to the Fight at all except making it more annoying" which sums up court quiet good

gloomy heart
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i’m going to the dark side again ( frost mage) 🧙

rare isle
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I guess so, I don't know why really. Brood just makes me extremely triggered by just hearing it's name. I guess all fights that are designed about mostly handling adds is just boring to me.

Kinda like SLG, why was that even a boss? Whole thing felt more like a annyoingly prolonged add-gauntlet

bronze pike
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pug with me

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and ill show you how strong a actual ret with hands can be

novel star
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i’ve seen it before

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just

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very rare

bronze pike
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i will bop you

novel star
errant terrace
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whats the main tech with everyone being nightelf?

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just the occasional restealth?

rare isle
runic hinge
subtle tundra
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but i wont swap to cringelf

lusty kraken
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I've been checking a single target sim with the M+ build and I noticed the sim uses Shiv before Deathmark (despite having only one charge of shiv). Aren't we supposed to be using shiv in the last 8 seconds of kingsbane?

rare isle
subtle tundra
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me orc zug zug

amber brook
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Does anyone sometimes not get full combo points from a rupture with SBS on 3 targets?

rare isle
subtle tundra
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also can happen that you dont have 3 sbs stacks

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which usually happens after bosses with adds and the adds you ruptured didnt die

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like siege first boss

rare isle
amber brook
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I see that my garrote does get applied on all 3 targets alongside sbs but still get 5

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im just at the electric wolves farming for weekly prof points rn

subtle tundra
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you say electric wolves as if that means anything to me

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buzz word

amber brook
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random mobs

grim jay
rare isle
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Yes they are the new big thing

grim jay
subtle tundra
grim jay
cyan gyro
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Hi pumpers, is there any updated guide that covers running subterfuge and ttk as sin rogue? I see the latest are still on hybrid build for M+ but i see top rogues running subterfuge and ttk

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I tried earlier today but got overwhelmed a bit, wanted to see what part of the rotation i was doing wrong

normal mist
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They don't really change... Much.
With subterfuge you have a bigger MA/Iron wire window, as well as not being forced to ambush as a first global.

versed tree
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noob q, how do you maintain bleeds Aoe after the carnage window?

normal mist
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Ttk is just more envenoms

normal mist
cyan gyro
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to spread it around, but i dunno whether it actually makes that huge a diff

normal mist
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No idea

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Shit dies so fast anyway

cyan gyro
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I'm in 10 still, so things die a bit slower than higher keys XD

normal mist
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I only do 8-10s

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BCS cba doing higher

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I'm a casual really

restive thistle
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Hi. I'm mainly an outlaw/sub main, trying out assa this season. I wanna know how much of an impact would it be to not cast FoK in the opener without Vicious Venoms ? I'm trying to be as clean as i can, and rules like that (No matter the spec) tends to obsess me of how much of a DPS Loss it would be

normal mist
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We don't play vicious v anymore, and we like to pop CtW

novel star
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important thing to rememebr is that garrote fucking sucks

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so you don’t actually care about garrote at all without stealth buffs

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but the ruptures you just do manually yeah

normal mist
autumn gate
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is their a feinte table that list all boss abilities and say if it work ? xD

normal mist
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Is it a DPS loss? Yes

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Is it huge? No

novel star
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can ignore it

cyan gyro
restive thistle
normal mist
cyan gyro
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So basically hybrid for 10 is still perfectly fine, no need for me to really stress on subterfuge ttk

normal mist
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Yeah

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There are around 400 different builds

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All of them close together

novel star
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vicious venoms isn’t taken anymore

grim jay
normal mist
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Easy

restive thistle
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Is it that only?

normal mist
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It procs, you fok

novel star
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you have a very, very outdated build if you’re still using vicious venoms

restive thistle
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FUCK ME

normal mist
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Yeah xD

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FoK you

grim jay
restive thistle
novel star
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11.0.5 we stopped taking venoms for ttk and master assassin

normal mist
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Wowhead is updated

restive thistle
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Using the builds from Whispyr

novel star
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idk about icy but i know wowhead is updated for sure

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you are not

restive thistle
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And yeah, there is no fucking Vicious venom

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God my eyes

novel star
normal mist
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You're tired

novel star
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but yeah

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it’s a small minmax you can definitely ignore it if you want

normal mist
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But keep in mind that all those small % min max are what differentiate a good assa from a great assa

restive thistle
novel star
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i mean yeah true if you choose to ignore 20 different 0.3% gains

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but if one specific one is cooking your brain

grim jay
novel star
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it’s fine

normal mist
restive thistle
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Yeah but like, i already have a WA for Clear the Witness. From Fuu pack

normal mist
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Then you just FoK

novel star
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then just do it 4Heed

restive thistle
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Ok me FoK

novel star
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enjoy

normal mist
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Also

novel star
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optimal gaming!

normal mist
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Update your build

restive thistle
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It's just the vicious venom thing on wowhead that fucked with me

novel star
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lmao

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yea

grim jay
restive thistle
normal mist
grim jay
royal lantern
grim jay
normal mist
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@warm vortex morning

dawn heath
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is this

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a bug?

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like

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the mob is stunned?

wispy bane
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What would be the average amount of runs before Skardyns grace drops? Have seen it drop once for a resto shaman 😅

subtle tundra
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its stunned, but you still walked right into it

midnight mist
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i never wanted to try if you could walk into one of these when stunned

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now i know

novel star
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that dungeon has quite a few items

midnight mist
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I got it second run

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just have luck

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very easy

novel star
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but yeah you can just get it instantly or never get it

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idk

worldly sail
midnight mist
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well its more right

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cause you vcan get it traded

worldly sail
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yeah i dont count that

midnight mist
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and trinkets drop for everyone in your party

worldly sail
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wait do i count that idk im not math guy

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tell me what my brain is thinking

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i actually dont remember if its 2 or 3 items per run

midnight mist
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2

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i think at some point we had 3 above a certain key level or smth

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idk if thats still here

subtle tundra
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20% per keylevel above max ilvl from vault

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so 15 or 20 or whatever it was

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20% chance for additional item

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but its removed

midnight mist
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its gone ?

subtle tundra
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ofc

midnight mist
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wat

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why

subtle tundra
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have you ever gotten a third item this tier

midnight mist
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ye idk

subtle tundra
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cause too much loot or smth

midnight mist
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i dont think so

subtle tundra
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ofc you didnt

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cause you cant

midnight mist
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wtf no wae

rare isle
subtle tundra
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NO warbound doesnt count to loot

midnight mist
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blizzard ReallyMad

merry bison
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wat

midnight mist
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m+ gear is useless this season anyway

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626

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might aswell equip world quest gear

subtle tundra
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they wanted to reduce number of loot drops for some reason, i think it was mentioned somewhere at some point

merry bison
subtle tundra
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i liked the incentive to do higher keys

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if i wanted a finger or smth later in the tier, i could do 13-14 for a decent chance at 3rd item

blazing pumice
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yer bring back tittyforging

merry bison
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oh hell narw

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you get m+ gear from dungeons and raid gear from raid

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ez fix

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devs cant comprehend such a change

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bozods

blazing pumice
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then no one would raid cuz it's boring

worldly sail
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and both from blizzard application store lootboxes

merry bison
subtle tundra
merry bison
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maybe they realize that raidin is lame

blazing pumice
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hear me out

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tittyforging for m15+

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up to myth gear

merry bison
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but mythic aint harder than +15

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more like a +13

patent elk
royal lantern
merry bison
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i mean

earnest remnant
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m+ is just lame ass side content

blazing pumice
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yeah they can stick to boring raiding and waiting for end of tier to get their queen ring

warm vortex
earnest remnant
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that is forced upon the chads, that wanna play the real game (raiding)

merry bison
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a bit more entertaining than raiding for 3 hours and wiping 30 times on the same scripted mechanic

royal lantern
midnight mist
merry bison
midnight mist
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its the opposite tho

royal lantern
merry bison
subtle tundra
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i wouldnt play the game without m+

earnest remnant
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to raid

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so

royal lantern
earnest remnant
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pint stands

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point*

merry bison
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we have 8 bosses and the last two are pain but everything before that is not harder than a +15

midnight mist
merry bison
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thats a bunch of gear tho

earnest remnant
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m+ is meme content

subtle tundra
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the game is just so boring, clear the raid and then do what? waiting room

merry bison
midnight mist
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you need to join a good enough guild, commit to a raiding schedule, etc just to do m+

subtle tundra
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m+ is there to fill the gap

earnest remnant
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its for the mentally unstable

earnest remnant
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or you can be like a tank i knew in BFA

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that never set foot inside of the raid

midnight mist
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and have 0 gear ye

earnest remnant
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he just bought last boss for trinkets

royal lantern
midnight mist
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oh well if he just bought last bosses for trinkets

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all good then

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imma go spend 40mil gold

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brb

earnest remnant
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you can make millions of gold in this game

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if you just actually sitdown

midnight mist
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ye i know

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a mythic raid boost still cost quite a bit

earnest remnant
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play the market and boost high keys

midnight mist
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and saying you can just buy a raid boost

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is kinda wild or

subtle tundra
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i can boost 15s im pretty sure

earnest remnant
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well if you wanna be at the top?

royal lantern
subtle tundra
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how much would those be

earnest remnant
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then fcking deal with it?

midnight mist
earnest remnant
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no idea what the go for now

midnight mist
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thats stealthi that said this

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not me

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I was just saying from the m+ side its even worse

earnest remnant
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like just short of a gold cap?

midnight mist
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than raiding dudes having to do 3 keys

royal lantern
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you are the guy that says every week "i cant play outlaw" and "im forced to raid for my m+" lol

midnight mist
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we do it lower than communities tho

midnight mist
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i never said ever

earnest remnant
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well i think they should completely seperate the two game modes

midnight mist
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that im forced to raid

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for m+

subtle tundra
midnight mist
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i litteralyt love raid

subtle tundra
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15s are pretty hard

midnight mist
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well you dont boost clueless people tho

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like the people we were boosting

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were at least doing more than tank damage

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and not dying too much

royal lantern
earnest remnant
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anyway seperate the two modes

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so i dont have to do m+

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ty

subtle tundra
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man i love when the paladin just busts for 4mil dps in a random pack and outdpss me

midnight mist
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outdps you as assa ? sus

subtle tundra
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yes when i have no cds

earnest remnant
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varas is washed

subtle tundra
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?!??!?!

brisk forge
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Well he has all his and u not

earnest remnant
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dont listen to him

subtle tundra
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im like

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high rank

midnight mist
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ye you are washed up varas

subtle tundra
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wtf

midnight mist
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gg

earnest remnant
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you used to be rank 1 assa

midnight mist
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high rank but no damage

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gg

earnest remnant
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look how the mighty has fallen

midnight mist
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carried by enhance no cap

worldly sail
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combine both modes. force raiders to split into 4x m+ groups between boss fights to clear the trash that has been changed into 4x m+ dungeons

earnest remnant
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washed up

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its joever for him

subtle tundra
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shit is rough man

royal lantern
midnight mist
royal lantern
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also make the trash openworld pvp enabled

static glacier
merry bison
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as sin in +15 you're just the silence bot, dmg does the sham nocap

midnight mist
subtle tundra
static glacier
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Don’t remind me of that fight

midnight mist
worldly sail
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i love a 15 minute long boss fight

static glacier
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Frost set rng lookin ass

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No execute boss on the one tier we cared about execute cus dagger

earnest remnant
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i personally absolutely hate m+

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as content

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i like the people i play with tho

royal lantern
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everytime you can use BL 2x in a fight

somebody at Blizz should step back and think about it for a second

midnight mist
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I dont really get people that hate m+ ngl

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its just wow

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but aoe

static glacier
midnight mist
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!

earnest remnant
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only reason i play wow is to raid

royal lantern
earnest remnant
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rest can fuck off

royal lantern
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or the meme?

static glacier
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They need to add myth track tier to high keys

earnest remnant
midnight mist
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i mean i dont accept answers from people that dont actually play m+

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of course i would hate m+ if all i did was piss keys

earnest remnant
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so im allowed to hate it?

midnight mist
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weeklies are boring

royal lantern
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tf does that mean you fucking idiot jesus

midnight mist
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thats for sure

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i just mean

subtle tundra
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most people havent actually tried to do m+ with a group and try to see it for how it is

midnight mist
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weeklies are boring

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pushing keys are cool

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most people dont try that part of m+

royal lantern
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according to you, only 0,02% kf the playerbase "dont actually play m+" then

midnight mist
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so they dont like m+

static glacier
# earnest remnant nah

It’s purely an ego / bragging rights thing then, it doesn’t reward your char with any tangible benefit over weeklies, raiding is deffo not the same

royal lantern
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cud nobody fucking pushes keys above weekly rewards

midnight mist
subtle tundra
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I WISH THEY BUFFED WINDWALKER SO I CAN PLAY IT

static glacier
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Extra 13 ilvls on trinkets / gear is on the table

merry bison
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ww is decent

midnight mist
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but if you just do vault keys every week just to fill the vault

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then ye

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you arent really doing the fun part of m+

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thats what im saying ye

subtle tundra
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ALSO MAKE CRAFTED ITEMS COUNT FOR CREST DISCOUNT ACHIV. BLIZZ. LET ME PLAY MY ALTS.

earnest remnant
blazing pumice
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having to commit half your weeknights to raiding is dumb af

subtle tundra
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how tf am i supposed to acquire TWO mythic rings

static glacier
earnest remnant
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half your week nights??????

royal lantern
earnest remnant
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i mean dont raid 4+ days a week then xD

royal lantern
midnight mist
merry bison
midnight mist
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otherwise its not different than raid

subtle tundra
static glacier
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Nothing feels worse than depleting two keys with leavers and realising you’ve wasted an hr gaming for 0 rewards / score / weeklies in vault

midnight mist
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you get together with buddies and play the game

earnest remnant
merry bison
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like nocap

subtle tundra
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doing challenging content is cool

sacred schooner
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m+ with pugs == cancer

royal lantern
static glacier
royal lantern
subtle tundra
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does csgo have rewards or something

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dont say random aaah case at the end

earnest remnant
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on faceit?

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yeah

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who the fuck plays mm?

merry bison
subtle tundra
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faceit isnt from steam

merry bison
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you just play for rank

subtle tundra
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its 3rd party

merry bison
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but

midnight mist
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league doesnt have a reward either

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you just play for the ladder

earnest remnant
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it used to

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MAH JACKET MAN

midnight mist
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thats why m+ is the real part of the game

sacred schooner
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m+ need something more than r1 title like in pvp you have rival\duelist titles need something like that for 3k rating for example

midnight mist
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you play it for the love of the game

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not for silly gear

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that you replace 2 months after

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gear is temporary

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score is permanent

static glacier
earnest remnant
subtle tundra
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why would anyone raid in a rank 100 guild when they can raid rank 1000, do the same content just later

earnest remnant
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tru tru

midnight mist
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lfg is a terrible system

static glacier
midnight mist
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for what

subtle tundra
earnest remnant
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Anyway

royal lantern
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like, unironically, we get that weird "its only m+ game" somewhere down the line

and it will be interesting to see how many people will even borther with that, cus for most people in WoW its very obvious that m+ is only played for gear rewards and not for fun/the mode itself, and if it can actually hold itself afloat for a extended period

midnight mist
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xd

subtle tundra
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if you dont push m+

static glacier
subtle tundra
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delves?

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LOL

final star
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I require sockets

earnest remnant
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prenerf ansurek / tindral is harder than any key ive ever done, even the world 10 keys ive done in the past

midnight mist
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you are raiding to get gear so you can raid easier ?

static glacier
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Xddddd

merry bison
earnest remnant
subtle tundra
midnight mist
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you are not really raiding for the gear at that level

final star
midnight mist
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its just silly to say that

earnest remnant
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/ spit

static glacier
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Thing is you don’t raid for the gear in general

midnight mist
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you are raiding cause you enhjoy the content and you also want to be on a leaderboard

merry bison
static glacier
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But the gear incentive is there

final star
static glacier
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M+ needs something more for me to really be motivated

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Even if it’s cosmetic

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There needs to be something

midnight mist
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i think we get a mount or smth

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idk

earnest remnant
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exclusive cosmetics are dope

midnight mist
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its ugly i heard

subtle tundra
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idk for the whole of DF i gave 0 shits about my gear, i never got to max ilvl in any tier i believe
cause guess what, it was irrelevant cause i wasnt doing m+

earnest remnant
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wish there was more of that

subtle tundra
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now i just reaaaaaaalllllllly want that queen ring

midnight mist
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i would play wow without gear

sacred schooner
midnight mist
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gear is just slowing down me playing the game

royal lantern
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mf wants a moba

final star
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I want queen ring too

midnight mist
final star
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It would fix my gear

midnight mist
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I just want to queue for m+

royal lantern
midnight mist
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then queue for raid

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then logoff

royal lantern
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or that shity m+ only game that had a beta

earnest remnant
royal lantern
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lol

earnest remnant
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ill give you a ring mah queen

midnight mist
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buiddy

midnight mist
final star
midnight mist
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but thats the type of game i would play ye

subtle tundra
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i like pve with a team

sacred schooner
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solo random m+ q based on rating kekdog

subtle tundra
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its fun af

earnest remnant
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like atm im hella enjoying lost ark

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cuz the game is just what i enjoy

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raiding

subtle tundra
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raid feels way less personal

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dungeons feel like i matter

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you cant compare poe/diablo to wow m+

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one is a mindless right click, the other is quite complex

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not even close

midnight mist
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nothing compare to wow m+

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well

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that fellowship beta

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did a good job

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at doing something close

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still aint wow m+ th

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but i would play it

royal lantern
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zac

m+ is literally just blizzard putting *1.40 on a calculator on dmg done/hp for every key level

subtle tundra
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i have a couple thousands of hours in poe, i exclusively play it with a show on my 2nd monitor now

royal lantern
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thats no masterclass of content Design lol

subtle tundra
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the dungeons are

midnight mist
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its easy in hc cause you ignore everything

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then you get to mythic

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and suddently everything hit harder

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so you have to do mechanics

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i mean look at queen its a good example

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praticaly nothing changes really in p1

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its still way harder

subtle tundra
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well..

midnight mist
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thats just wow

royal lantern
# midnight mist thats also most mythic bosses tho

difference is that the bosses dont even get anything new

m+ bosses always just end up with "that shit 1hit kills you now cus the number is to high, stack deffensives/immunitys or find a way to cheese the mechanic" cus they dont really do anything

midnight mist
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everything is ireelvant till its scalled high enough

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idk

final star
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queen fucking BLASTED pre nerf

thorn roost
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in M+ 626 Seal of the Poisoned Pact or 636 Ring of Earthen Craftsmanship crit/mastery Which ring do you think is more efficient

final star
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the damage intake in p1 was filth

royal lantern
midnight mist
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but i had nothing else on hand

final star
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with feint up at the 01.40 overlap I'd get chunked to 20%

midnight mist
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my point still stand tho

final star
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and there was nothing I could do about it

midnight mist
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you ignore everything in hc

final star
midnight mist
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then in mythic things are relevant

final star
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now after nerfs it barely tickles

subtle tundra
final star
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it works on that

subtle tundra
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it works on one thing, and theres like 3-4 different things that do dmg

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so reducing 1 doesnt do much

midnight mist
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but i think if i take you in a high key

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you will just fail 90% of mechanics

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cause they just dont exist

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in weekleis

subtle tundra
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m+ at a high level is more akin to raid

midnight mist
#

but thats the whole point of wow isnt it

subtle tundra
#

just with a lot of bandaiding

#

cause improvising is very relevant

earnest remnant
#

i miss when m+ was about doing dmg and not just living

midnight mist
#

same

earnest remnant
#

bring back bfa

final star
earnest remnant
#

and legion

subtle tundra
#

true...

final star
#

Legion classic will fuck hard

midnight mist
#

it was like that in sl aswell a bit

royal lantern
#

Legion m+ when it was actually fun

earnest remnant
#

SL was a fever dream

#

garbage ass expansion

final star
#

Shadowlands had some good dungeon design

#

the rest of it

royal lantern
#

cus blizz didnt want to make it a "giga competitive mode" and it was ironically better for everyone

final star
#

swamp dog ass

midnight mist
#

i dont remember the last time i depleted a key cause of timer

subtle tundra
midnight mist
#

xddd

royal lantern
earnest remnant
#

where you couldnt see shit

royal lantern
#

since DF timer is a meme

earnest remnant
#

for 90% of the dungeon

midnight mist
earnest remnant
#

very fun

subtle tundra
final star
#

SOME

midnight mist
#

actually

final star
#

I SAID SOME

royal lantern
#

just dont wipe and its timed

final star
#

SOME

midnight mist
#

df s2?

#

ye i think df s2

#

wait

#

is this everything cause of aug ReallyMad

earnest remnant
#

BFA season 3

subtle tundra
earnest remnant
#

PROTECT THE MAGUS comp

midnight mist
#

thats aug fault ReallyMad

#

we havent had a normal dps season since aug dropped ReallyMad

royal lantern
#

yep

earnest remnant
#

playing 70% vers outlaw

#

in Freehold

#

to live first boss xD

viral spire
subtle tundra
#

atleast this season you can play many specs as 3rd dps

royal lantern
subtle tundra
#

just enha and aug are locked in

royal lantern
final star
#

Also, ToP was a really good MDI dungeon

earnest remnant
final star
#

and you can't change my mind on that

earnest remnant
#

it was for on pull

#

when he does the random shots

viral spire
earnest remnant
#

they would 1 tap

subtle tundra
earnest remnant
#

if you had nothing running

midnight mist
#

maybe mage if you are forcing it

subtle tundra
final star
#

no there was so much tech in top for mdi

midnight mist
#

aug cucking my outlaw tho ReallyMad

#

can we delete that spec

final star
#

every team did something different

blissful pecan
#

whats the dmg logic of this mini boss on necrotic wake?

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midnight mist
#

(aug not outlaw)

blissful pecan
#

i got 7m and oneshotted

earnest remnant
#

i miss bullying people

#

in my weeklies

midnight mist
final star
#

yes dude

midnight mist
#

you can cloak it

subtle tundra
#

i saw casualaddict play fdk...

midnight mist
#

or feint + eva

blissful pecan
#

i just cloaked the last one

midnight mist
#

idk its a hard hitter

blissful pecan
#

wtf is 7m tho my full hp is 6.4m haha

final star
#

"I'll die" - I proceed to unload an entire stun lock combo on some unsuspecting boomy

midnight mist
#

you need a def lol

subtle tundra
#

feint isnt enough

quiet oar
midnight mist
#

i think feint is enough till like 13 or smth prolly

earnest remnant
#

lmao yea

final star
#

hot

earnest remnant
#

that was goated

final star
#

got me acting unwise

midnight mist
earnest remnant
#

APT APT APT APT

midnight mist
#

you fighting demons looking like that or what

hardy dagger
subtle tundra
#

i need 3.5k this week... hopefully...

midnight mist
earnest remnant
#

i have other skins

midnight mist
#

other kpop girl skins ?

earnest remnant
#

nah

midnight mist
#

i wish i could be a kpop girlie in wow

#

but im forced to be a small dwarf

merry bison
#

ETA ETA ETA

earnest remnant
#

we have some none kpop skins laying about

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merry bison
final star
#

I love how korean mmo's are always unashamed in their gooning

earnest remnant
#

there are some wild skins

#

thats for sure

royal lantern
viral spire
#

Where armor where dagger shrugeg

earnest remnant
sharp viper
#

only 1? stealthi confirmed outlaw player

viral spire
#

Smh

earnest remnant
#

this class only got one

#

plays nothing like outlaw tho, this a big crits class

#

there is one with 3 swords tho

viral spire
#

Where do you put the third sword

sharp viper
earnest remnant
#

which is used for singular attack

#

called Surge

#

which hits for like a trillion dmg

sharp viper
#

do you spin around like sonic with that blade on the back?

earnest remnant
#

nah

#

you just smack it down for 1 big hit

#

every like 10 sec

analog frigate
#

Hello boys i have a question. When im playing internal bleeding do I always refresh it with rupture or just refresh rupture?

warm vortex
#

For the first time my driving lesson will be extended

#

lets go bois

wet wharf
#

what does that mean?

warm vortex
#

My driving lesson will be longer :D

wet wharf
#

oh I read license

warm vortex
#

Tbh, i think the driving lesson is fine, the theory is whats bad atm

#

Like my driving is fine, parking can be a bit better but i just need to get the theory down more

wet wharf
#

How many hours of lessons do you need?

warm vortex
#

Atm it was an hour
now its going to an hour thirty

#

The problem is my adhd makes it hard for me to do something like that for a rlly long time
anything over like 2 hours and i would just not be focused anymore

wet wharf
#

I think getting my drivers license was one of the best days of my life acctually

warm vortex
#

Ik it's corny but for me it's finding out i got a place in uni

oak tangle
#

so anyway i was blastin

#

silken court H

warm vortex
#

Poggies

#

im usually on the tripwire

#

so i can't do that much

hybrid storm
#

Hello dear rogues please i have a question on the last 6 seconds of improved garrote should we overwrite garrote with a normal one or do i want to let improved garrote to run out fully and then reapply ?

novel star
#

run out fully

#

you lose the 6s of improved ticks if you refresh in pandemic

candid token
#

Small question, do we use vanish primarily to buff Kingsbane with MA? It always feels like Im not getting value from Deathmark's double garotte as Deathmark usually runs out pretty quickly after applying garrote.. or am I vanishing too late?

novel star
#

yes, you vanish for kingsbane

warm vortex
novel star
#

not even it’s an improved garrote

normal mist
candid token
#

Arrighty thankyuu ^-^

warm vortex
#

Why does the whispyr weak aura tell you to reapply when it’s less than 6 seconds then. Or maybe I’m reading it wrong idk

analog frigate
novel star
novel star
prisma monolithBOT
#

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

novel star
#

not a rogue mechanic

#

universal thing

normal mist
#

Aka when it's about to fall off, reapply it

candid token
#

Yee I understand, thanks a bunch happyfrog

analog frigate
#

I dont

candid token
#

Oh sorry I was talking about my own question previously

novel star
#

i cant really recall exactly what it looks like rn

warm vortex
#

So you do use it in
Pand

novel star
#

no, you don’t

#

because then you lose damage for no reason

#

pandemic is not a dps gain

#

it’s a quality of life feature

warm vortex
normal mist
# analog frigate I dont

If you reapply it when it is about to fall off, you add 30(?)% of the remaining timer to rupture/garrote

oak tangle
#

you can pandemic imp garrote with an imp garrote, you can pandemic a garrote with an imp garrote, you CAN'T pandemic and imp garrote with garrote

warm vortex
#

Anyone imma go

novel star
#

for specifically snapshotted bleeds, like improved garrote

#

you ignore pandemic

#

and refresh it after the final tick

#

aka when it falls off

warm vortex
#

I think I. Still might just re apply usually minus improved then

analog frigate
#

is it worth to have 100 uptime on it ?

novel star
#

i mean it’s not a major loss

oak tangle
#

watnow

candid token
# analog frigate I dont

So pandemic is like.. Garrotte lasts 18 seconds. Without pandemic if you refreshed it at 5s remaining you'd lose those 5 seconds as the timer goes back to 18, but because of pandemic those remaining seconds will be added to the next garrote so you dont lose out on it

novel star
#

but it is objectively a loss

#

to replace a stronger bleed with a weaker one

#

before it’s done ticking

normal mist
#

You don't play around it

analog frigate
#

But i bleeding is six second

#

thats what im asking if you try to reapply i bleeding as much as yo ucan

novel star
#

yes, you ignore internal bleeding it doesn’t matter it’s a shit talent

#

no

#

you don’t play around it

oak tangle
#

you dont refresh dots outside pandemic

normal mist
#

You don't play around it

oak tangle
#

the ONLY exception

#

is envenoms buff

analog frigate
#

Thanks

novel star
#

you press envenom until you need to press rupture and then internal bleeding just happens

analog frigate
#

im dumb

#

i main retri

#

sorry

novel star
analog frigate
#

you need to understand

oak tangle
candid token
#

The light has blinded you, but we welcome you in the shadows

normal mist
#

Oh

novel star
#

oh ok lol

novel star
normal mist
#

I've been playing so much monster hunter lately that when I log my rogue I press shift to run faster

novel star
#

but no internal bleeding does dogpiss damage you don’t care about it at all

candid token
#

Just go hit a target dummy with garrote, the debuff lasts 18 seconds, then at around 6s remaining hit it again with garrote and see that the debuff now lasts 21 seconds

#

ish

dim estuary
#

I saw this on zerocool stream, anyone knows if it's possible to get it ?

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oak tangle
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
oak tangle
#

oh no not there

candid token
oak tangle
#

it's Notter's kingsbane

dim estuary
#

TYVM

warm vortex
#

So wait

#

You refresh in pandemic

#

Unless improved far

normal mist
#

Yes

leaden epoch
#

do we use crimson tempest on 1 target?

quasi coyote
#

no

#

2+ iirc

leaden epoch
#

kk

#

ty

novel star
quasi coyote
#

zzz

novel star
#

still worth pressing it

#

it’s a single target dps gain over envenom

frail briar
#

is there a easy macro that i cant spam Thistle tea so i wont run out of stack ?

novel star
#

whenever there’s multiple targets

normal mist
prisma monolithBOT
#

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
frail briar
#

thanks

sullen phoenix
# candid token https://wago.io/PFTo3o6Ug

guys should i always spend envenom on 5 cp? or only during kings bane? like ofc if i get 6 cp or 7cp il use it, but in i get at 5 should i just send envenom/rupture refresh?

quasi coyote
#

yea i mean city 2nd boss i press it

novel star
#

building above 5 is bad

normal mist
novel star
#

^

#

dn is an obvious exception

#

but yes

sullen phoenix
#

jesys i was playing wrong all this time XD ffs

novel star
#

hitting mutilate at 5cp is real not good

sullen phoenix
#

ty guys lool

novel star
#

if you get one crit

#

you overcap 1cp

#

if you double crit

#

you overcap 2cp

#

don’t hit mutilate at 5

normal mist
#

Oli you're being so fast today I barely have time to help out

sullen phoenix
#

gotcha, my got and i was thinking more cp more dmg

normal mist
#

Especially since I'm on the phone loool

sullen phoenix
#

god*

novel star
#

i mean it isnt scaling the finisher inefficiently

normal mist
#

In theory + cps = + dmg

quasi coyote
#

well thats true '

novel star
#

it’s just wasting cp

quasi coyote
#

just not worth

woven shore
#

Dude kyveza so easy

novel star
#

that could be spent on another 5cp env

woven shore
novel star
#

instead of one 7cp one

novel star
#

i cant sleep

sullen phoenix
#

god bless discord gods ty all ❤️

normal mist
novel star
#

repeat the same thing over and over again

woven shore
#

If you have ctw during kb do you use mutilate or fok?

novel star
#

fok

normal mist
#

Whatever my heart tells me to do

novel star
#

doesn’t matter if you’re in kb or not

woven shore
#

I dont know why my guild is wiping but yesterday in 4hours i made like ONE mistake with lines and i dont even know if it was really me

#

Lol

novel star
#

different people struggle with different things

#

kyveza has pretty precise positioning

woven shore
#

Yea

novel star
#

some people just aren’t good at that

#

but they’re good at more chaotic shit like ovinax/court

hollow compass
#

how did i die while i had cloack ???

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novel star
normal mist
#

1sec

quasi coyote
#

its physical

subtle tundra
#

!nw

prisma monolithBOT
#

The breath/frontal from the first boss in Necrotic Wake is an attack, not a spell.

In order to immune the the breath, you must be in the first second of cloak of shadows (“a moment of magic immunity”). After the first second of cloak of shadows has elapsed, the attack will hit you and no longer be immuned.
Alternatively you can use evasion to dodge the breath.

novel star
#

evasion or first sec cloak only

hollow compass
normal mist
#

Should have been less than a sec

arctic socket
novel star
#

early cloak doesn’t work

arctic socket
#

Feint

normal mist
#

You timed it so perfectly

#

You fucked it up

woven shore
#

Today our LAST pull was our prog pull 28%

hollow compass
#

if i want to cloak when do i press it ?

normal mist
#

1sec

novel star
woven shore
#

And then someone placed balls almost inside melee i died

hollow compass
#

ahh

novel star
#

any time the cast bar is under 1s

#

so 0.9-0.1s

normal mist
#

You literally perfectly synced cloak with the attack

#

That's hard

hollow compass
#

okay and when vanish/meld?

novel star
#

or just evasion. you can do that whenever and it dodges

#

vanish i have no idea brotha i press that shit for damage

hollow compass
#

thats true ty

subtle tundra
#

it recasts on someone else

#

you ideally dont do that

#

takes people by surprise

quasi coyote
#

yea gotta eat that shit

hollow compass
#

griefer xD

blazing warren
#

Is BL good value for Assassination?

quasi coyote
#

sure doesnt feel like it xd

#

dont think its that great

#

but it does something surely

spice surge
#

Nah is good

quasi coyote
#

maybe but it doesnt feel good compared to other specs

subtle tundra
#

haste is one of our best ST stats

drifting light
#

just sim your opener with and without BL to find out😎

quasi coyote
#

the numbers mason the numbers

normal mist
#

(honestly asking)

quasi coyote
#

drums > BL

blazing warren
#

I was just curious

drifting light
#

i mean, curiousity isnt a sin. Maybe he is thinking of holding his cd's for BL or using one more kingsbane instead and using cd's outside of BL

golden crane
#

Hey guys, new rogue player. Do we have any spells to help stun/stop casts in big group pulls? I can only think of kidney shot but that takes combo points and is ST?

drifting light
#

THere are scenarios where t his inforation is useful

blazing warren
#

Had a run now that we had 20s to BL but i sent my cds anyway not waiting for it

quasi coyote
#

but thats about it

golden crane
#

cool cool ty

quasi coyote
#

u need the talent tho

#

that makes blind aoe

normal mist
static glacier
quasi coyote
normal mist
coral ibex
#

most of your poison applications come from weapon swings, which are sped up by bl…

royal lantern
quasi coyote
#

u swing a dagger?

#

not thrust??

novel star
#

technically

royal lantern
#

its a stupid advice lol

novel star
#

it’s also not a good idea but

quasi coyote
#

isnt it like a 10 min cd

novel star
#

3 min and it’s a knock not a stun

#

so

quasi coyote
#

mid

novel star
#

have to aim it into a wall or give your group cancer

#

by knocking the mobs for no reason

quasi coyote
#

double jump only value there

novel star
#

real

#

new meta on ansurek

#

fuck shadowstep

#

fuck escape artist

#

we gliding

quasi coyote
#

xd

#

but noone takin away my stoneform fr

novel star
#

we smoking filtered crack

quasi coyote
#

smokin on straight whoppie goldburg

spice spire
novel star
#

heard me

worldly sail
#

hell yea

novel star
#

i ain’t stutter

spice spire
quasi coyote
#

why is that real

worldly sail
#

thats me gearing up for a raid night

quasi coyote
#

the formula for success

static glacier
#

Aoe blind + aoe knock = stops

#

??

warm vortex
#

This whole time I always pandem

quasi coyote
normal mist
#

It is

quasi coyote
#

is there a way to track imp gar vs normal

#

cuz like i knew about this but honestly dont play around it that much

warm vortex
#

I use whyipsters wa

#

with imp it has a blue dotted outline when its imp

quasi coyote
#

eh i guess you would just track subterfuge timings

#

or smth cuz like i just look at nameplates for bleeds

warm vortex
#

I have a monitor that i attatch to my enemies that counts how much blood is in them

#

i use that to track my bleeds

quasi coyote
#

seems unecissary but i respect it

warm vortex
#

i also have a gun that shoots me if my character dies

#

really immersive

quasi coyote
#

shit u a ghost?

warm vortex
#

I just havent died yet
Edit: i died and facerolled the keyboard

#

because i dosujab[dsa

#

daDs

#

ds12304 12

quasi coyote
#

right...

royal lantern
#

casual 3+ min discord delay, nice

quasi coyote
#

true imagine dying in world or warcraft

warm vortex
#

By diffrent i mean incorrectly

#

why does my brain function so bad >:(

vernal snow
#

Question: While playing keys my boss dmg is shit (I know it's not good anyways) but I ask myself if I am doing smth wrong. I am always energy starved af and do I need to pool energy for the 2nd Kingsbane window (the solo Kingsbane after 1 min into the Fight) because sometimes I send it and I cant do Shit because No Energy. How can I improve ?

quasi coyote
vernal snow
#

Or is pooling not a thing?

normal mist
#

Max you can do is to stop pressing buttons a bit before the 2nd kb

warm vortex
normal mist
#

So you can then press them during kb

warm vortex
#

Isnt that how you get more fit

#

with more energy

warm vortex
normal mist
#

I wouldn't know. Stopped going to the gym a month and half ago

warm vortex
#

Twink pablo

#

or whatever it was your name was

normal mist
#

Close enough

royal lantern
warm vortex
#

More of a doom dude

quasi coyote
royal lantern
quasi coyote
#

aint no time for the "gym"

warm vortex
#

Tyrann

#

have you ever thought