Second charge is a fail-safe basically.
#assassination
limber lion
slow marsh
Figured as much
limber lion
We do not get twice the amount of vanishes, so it's basically redundant
warm vortex
I use it with my DM
limber lion
It's just an extra use that you can use if you mess something up
humble verge
did you do the DM at 3 minutes instead of 2?
gritty laurel
race is basically not a thing anymore, if you really want it to be noticeable go dwarf or goblin for the abilities
humble verge
your 2nd DM*
slow marsh
It's just an extra use that you can use if you mess something up
So why did we go from double vanish being very bad to now taking it for hybrid?
warm vortex
So why did we go from double vanish being very bad to now taking it for hybrid?
Ma and sub
limber lion
So why did we go from double vanish being very bad to now taking it for hybrid?
Because Subterfuge was changed and buffed heavily
warm vortex
They got changed
limber lion
WAT as a node has always been fine-ish
But Subterfuge actually doing something is the reason we take it now
Previously Subterfuge did literally nothing
slow marsh
Because Subterfuge was changed and buffed heavily
Ahhhh gotcha ok. This is all stuff I should already know but coming in at .5 patch is messy
limber lion
All good
slate crown
something like
#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover,nohelp,nodead,exists][] Rupture
Will cast at your mouseover if it is an enemy, otherwise (if no mouseover) it will cast rupture normally
slow marsh
@limber lion do you play wasd or qwe
slow marsh
I used to play qwe, I switched to wasd and it feels so awk
slow marsh
wtf is qwe
Strafe qe
coral ibex
why not just strafe on ad...
slow marsh
I was a heavy league player so fingers naturally went to qwer
tiny apex
league of legends
balmy condor
why not just strafe on ad...
Cause humans are animals
plucky warren
that is devious
plucky warren
Ive never even heard of QWE
limber lion
<@165215952479322112> do you play wasd or qwe
Wasd, I have strafe on ad but it doesn't matter because I hold my right mouse button down 24/7 anyways
tiny apex
return to league
warm vortex
I was thinking of going full crafted gear on my alts, but someone said to instead do 4/8 M every week and wait until I have 639 on my main so I get crest discount, gradually getting upgrades from vault
Is this a good idea or should j go for crafted do you people think
slow marsh
Wasd, I have strafe on ad but it doesn't matter because I hold my right mouse bu...
Same I just right click strafe and idk which set of binds will be better for me now
coral ibex
Q is the primo builder bind
limber lion
Ive never even heard of QWE
JPC (and Reckful used to) move forward by clicking both mouse buttons and strafing left and right with zx
:)
coral ibex
i could never put movement on it
plucky warren
of course
tiny apex
I was thinking of going full crafted gear on my alts, but someone said to instea...
is your alt bill gates or what
gritty laurel
I was thinking of going full crafted gear on my alts, but someone said to instea...
crafted already wastes 15 crests per item compared to non-discounted upgrades, definitely going to be an easier upgrade route to wait
coral ibex
wheres your harvard degree
slow marsh
JPC (and Reckful used to) move forward by clicking both mouse buttons and strafi...
Yeah they are animals I can't do that
limber lion
Keybinds don't really matter, just play whatever is comfy for you
plucky warren
wheres your harvard degree
on the wall ofc
limber lion
wasd or qwe or sp fuck it
nimble vector
keybinds are entirely personal preference (within reason), so just use what you want
limber lion
As long as your movement keys are close to your abilities, you're chilling
coral ibex
ive heard of people that have turn on a and d still and strafe with Q and E
which is fucked
i dont care
limber lion
probs shouldn't move with arrow keys if your mutilate is bound on 1
nimble vector
okay except keyboard turning that shit is not good ever
gritty laurel
reroll to vengeance DH, bind W, spacebar, and eyebeam, profit
plucky warren
atleast from comp fps games keybinds are really personal preference aslong as they arent egregious
split willow
Anyone have a working TTK async Envenom stack wa?
slate crown
Anyone have a working TTK async Envenom stack wa?
Is there one you have that isn't working?
gritty laurel
i have the most disgusting keybinds because i just kept jamming shit onto an mmo mouse with no regard to the future
slate crown
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!wa LE Collection has 2 standalone options. LE Pack and Whispyr pack both have t...
Is this self promotion
In this Christian discord channel
slate crown
It's whispyr promotion
shy axle
after the opener where i use vanish to refresh a buffed gar + cover the last 6 seconds of kb with ma, do i just use vanish on cd for the buffed gar and not try to time/delay it for another kb?
slow marsh
I've been trying to be normal and do ad strafe but I'm just not meant to be normal I'm gonna go back to qwe
slate crown
QWE is valid
plucky warren
I guess i could see QWE but how would you back up? do you still have S bound so backup?
slate crown
don't let the haters bully you into wasd
warm vortex
crafted already wastes 15 crests per item compared to non-discounted upgrades, d...
Cheers
gritty laurel
after the opener where i use vanish to refresh a buffed gar + cover the last 6 s...
it's a 2m cooldown so it just lines up with DM anyway, you'll keep using it to buff the last 6 seconds of KB
spice spire
after the opener where i use vanish to refresh a buffed gar + cover the last 6 s...
Always last 6s of kb during st
slow marsh
Backpedal isn't necessary
slate crown
I guess i could see QWE but how would you back up? do you still have S bound so ...
Yes, I have s bound to backpeddle but I basically never use it
slow marsh
S is a prime bind for qwe
slate crown
Sure
shy axle
thanks guys
slate crown
Just never found a need
plucky warren
I feel like even though it isnt neccesary youre removing yourself of a movement option if you bind it to something else
slate crown
I have a and d bound and that's enough for me
slate crown
I feel like even though it isnt neccesary youre removing yourself of a movement ...
Yeah
slow marsh
And if I can do mythic painsmith without backpedal then I can do anything
plucky warren
oh no
gloomy heart
like a REAL giga chad
plucky warren
that is freaky
slow marsh
I used to have sprint on n because I could hit it with left thumb from space but it's so unnecessary now
warm vortex
Hi phyce
Rocking a the pfp I see X)
slow marsh
Blizz keeps getting rid of extra buttons so no need to get freaky anymore
warm vortex
is your alt bill gates or what
You mean the expenses for crafting?
gloomy heart
Yes hello vendeten
warm vortex
If so I’ve been levelling all profs (minus engi) since expansion start
gloomy heart
today is mage gearing day
spice spire
Blizz keeps getting rid of extra buttons so no need to get freaky anymore
Wdym by this
west crown
-1 SnD
slow marsh
Wdym by this
Like I don't need to put things in random spots and work my fingers like I'm playing piano
west crown
-1 ER
slow marsh
No sepsis no exsang no ambush no dance.
spice spire
Well sort of ambush
You don’t auto proc in stealth
So for dsm
You still have to ambush
But bs auto procs
slow marsh
But ambush just replaces mut on the stealth bar and it's gucci
We don't mut from stealth since CN .5
Or I'm just bad (or both)
warm vortex
What’s the highest key you guys have timed :0
spice spire
Nah we definitely mutd from stealth
slow marsh
Nah we definitely mutd from stealth
Wen
trail locust
I mutilated from stealth once this patch
warm vortex
Guys we clearly envenom from stealth
patent heart
During kingsbane, should you dump envenom after 2 mutilates even if you only have 4 combo points or cast a 3rd
spice spire
.1 for the crit to add to frost shards
.2 for crit because it was so high you could launch envenoms in the flag windows pretty regularly.
10.0 more damage and higher cp Gen
10.1 same
10.2-10.3 didn’t play don’t know
spice spire
During kingsbane, should you dump envenom after 2 mutilates even if you only hav...
Nope just 5+ on your muts
You stack it up so quick it doesn’t matter
tiny apex
You mean the expenses for crafting?
ye
patent heart
That's what I've been doing but wasn't sure if it was worth
tiny apex
namely crests
slow marsh
.1 for the crit to add to frost shards
.2 for crit because it was so high you co...
Oh yeah true. Sorry I'm getting old bro my memory isn't what it used to be
spice spire
Honestly better than it’s ever been perks of lifting big dog
warm vortex
Aka free time galore
spice spire
Less joint pain now than before and I rarely had any before
slow marsh
That’s what ur pops said too
Dang you talk to him more than me
spice spire
But progress is good
slow marsh
Progress is the only thing that matters and you are forgetting it's November buddy
So I know you're capping
spice spire
Yeah I haven’t talked to him this month chill chill
Ten days until the juggernut is unleashed
subtle tundra
What’s the highest key you guys have timed :0
Highest I've timed as tank is 11... 12 is hard
slow marsh
Did keys just start or something
spice spire
Highest I've timed as tank is 11... 12 is hard
What are you tanking with?
subtle tundra
Prot pala...
spice spire
U changed
slow marsh
Real
spice spire
Meta slave..
subtle tundra
I wasn't gonna play brew when it's dogshit
slate crown
the wanker class
subtle tundra
Sorry it's locked
proven jasper
Gotta beat NNN first
subtle tundra
Man wish they slapped ww with a hefty buff
warm vortex
Highest I've timed as tank is 11... 12 is hard
I’ve not tanked yet
novel star
Man wish they slapped ww with a hefty buff
next patch bro trust
subtle tundra
Wanna pug some keys on it but it's so bad
subtle tundra
Idk I press my buttons I proc I do no dmg
cobalt sphinx
You need PI
subtle tundra
The dmg isn't there
cobalt sphinx
The single target is extremely good from what i’ve seen but it might be because we PI it in our alt keys
cobalt sphinx
Like 1.7m on +10 coaglamation or something
It is just hard capped really low right
Can’t aoe
slow marsh
I'm so excited 5 hours then I'm off for 10 days
cobalt sphinx
Poe2 schedule
slow marsh
I'll be like 645 this time next week
spice spire
Poe2 schedule
Banger
normal mist
i'm eating a santa shaped chocolate, thanks for asking
slow marsh
i'm eating a santa shaped chocolate, thanks for asking
What are you drinking tho
normal mist
monster white
slow marsh
Kekw
cobalt sphinx
Zamn look at that hulk hand
balmy condor
choke me?
spice spire
That keyboard is goated
Dog I hate this thing so much
balmy condor
sorry you're right
balmy condor
choke me please
thorn fjord
Dog I hate this thing so much
why lol
normal mist
balmy condor
I asked nicely
gloomy heart
GOT ONE TOO RN
spice spire
choke me *please*
Are you good
balmy condor
no
gentle gyro
blizzard, give me a tank spec, I can't do this anymore
frank bronze
hellow someone can give a tips for how play single target i miss too fast my energy
turbid sandal
is it worth saving Deathmark until the first dmg amp on Silken Court?
balmy condor
is it worth saving Deathmark until the first dmg amp on Silken Court?
yeh
gentle gyro
hellow someone can give a tips for how play single target i miss too fast my ene...
while your CDs are down, only play for envenom uptime and don't spam
ember mural
Why is assa always wildin'
rotund oak
those hands should be able to bench at least 110klg
ember mural
@spice spire posting wrists in November for free??
spice spire
<@226508540746006528> posting wrists in November *for free??*
Dog?
I posted myself holding a can
What do you mean for free
frank bronze
while your CDs are down, only play for envenom uptime and don't spam
thx
balmy condor
How can I help king
can you hold me in a princess carry
gentle gyro
thx
basically, dump your energy into Shiv-windows (so during kingsbane) and try to conserve it outside of that
spice spire
can you hold me in a princess carry
Idk what that is but sure big dog
gloomy heart
ill hold your mountain until you dew
normal mist
All about these right here
Vitamin water you are drinking
thorn fjord
Delicious it is
normal mist
thorn fjord
The dragon fruit one is goated though... we dont have those in the breakroom
royal lantern
Vitamin water you are drinking
yeha???
Im drinking Cola-Mix zero mit Cola-Orangen geschmack because nothing else was avaible
(thats on the lable btw)
thorn fjord
GESCHMACK
coral ibex
yall got some messy desks, makes me feel better about mine
thorn fjord
yall got some messy desks, makes me feel better about mine
Its my work desk hehehe
limber lion
I mutilated from stealth once this patch
:O
thorn fjord
Although tbf my home one isnt much better
thorn fjord
trail locust
Im available in about 5 hours
thorn fjord
Drugs are bad mkay
proven jasper
This guy dabs
thorn fjord
proven jasper
limber lion
Hey I'm drinking a white energy drink as well
thorn fjord
That mousepad is SICK though @coral ibex
limber lion
(Nocco clears white monster don't @ me)
trail locust
(Nocco clears white monster don't @ me)
@limber lion
limber lion
Im available in about 5 hours
ok nice tyty see you then
trail locust
White monster better
spice spire
Hey I'm drinking a white energy drink as well
Never had nocco ngl
limber lion
:O
coral ibex
That mousepad is SICK though <@137430413919387648>
got it off amazon pretty cheap
raven sonnet
eyy, rogues go red or blue group on silken?
coral ibex
big fan tbh
royal lantern
Hey I'm drinking a white energy drink as well
why is there a guy on it that looks like as if he is from a Christmas Themed Gay porn
coral ibex
limber lion
why is there a guy on it that looks like as if he is from a Christmas Themed Gay...
Yeah he reminds me of Tom of Finland (don't google that)
royal lantern
eyy, rogues go red or blue group on silken?
im red
limber lion
A chad santa
coral ibex
i am also red for court
limber lion
Went to the gym
good idea for a halloween outfit next year ty
coral ibex
i think blue is the easier group tho
spice spire
Or rather a nordic thing
Yeah so I really don’t have opinions either way
coral ibex
so your better melee players should be in red
spice spire
I’m also not huge on white monster
trail locust
good idea for a halloween outfit next year ty
Went to gym?????
spice spire
But need energy
royal lantern
so your better melee players should be in red
WAIT A SECOND
trail locust
WAIT A SECOND
Kekw
spice spire
And they were cheaper in bulk than the normal one
limber lion
I’m also not huge on white monster
I had it a few years ago and I really liked it, then I tried it again months later and didn't like it at all.
coral ibex
i mean maybe i'm wrong
limber lion
Something about it doesn't "hit" for me
coral ibex
but red melee does all the web stuff
limber lion
Like I need the punch in the face feeling
coral ibex
which is just more responsibility vs hitting boss and dropping one orb
royal lantern
but red melee does all the web stuff
im bond with a evoker healer
🙂
allright its not bad tbh
coral ibex
yea im with a boomie
royal lantern
oof
coral ibex
i always get uptime
royal lantern
pet the cat
coral ibex
his and hers uwu
spice spire
I had it a few years ago and I really liked it, then I tried it again months lat...
It’s whatever to me.
I like the uh. Rehabs? The noncarbonated ones that are more focused on hydration.
It helps combat the cramps from creatine
trail locust
Hydration bad
normal mist
limber lion
It’s whatever to me.
I like the uh. Rehabs? The noncarbonated ones that are more...
You get cramps from creatine?
normal mist
Oh flash didn't help
coral ibex
royal lantern
Oh flash didn't help
limber lion
You'd think your body gets used to it after, assumingly, having it for so many years
spice spire
You get cramps from creatine?
Yeah if you don’t drink enough water
limber lion
Right
spice spire
You'd think your body gets used to it after, assumingly, having it for so many y...
I only started
Like
limber lion
Oh?
spice spire
Three months ago
slate crown
Everybody drinking monster
normal mist
his and hers uwu
You're absolutely right
slate crown
I just drink coffee
limber lion
Creatine is pretty goated, I just have trouble remembering to take it if I'm not actively going to the gym
I drink it with water and it's ass
limber lion
Yeah I need to find a drink that I can slap it on
normal mist
like apple or orange juice
limber lion
Maybe I'll try juice
coral ibex
monster is alright but ive been hydration pilled since high school
always have a water bottle on me
normal mist
with juice you BARELY taste the weirdness of the creatine
limber lion
Don't think filling up my redbull with creatine is a good choice lol
limber lion
always have a water bottle on me
I bought a nice water bottle to encourage me to drink water
and I did for like 6 months
But I relapsed and had a nice, cold, Coca-Cola with a pizza once
thorn fjord
@normal mist what do you mostly use the display in front of the KB for?
limber lion
and it's been downhill ever since
normal mist
<@256188402116984832> what do you mostly use the display in front of the KB for?
anime
coral ibex
clear piss squad always
thorn fjord
Ive been thinking of doing something similar
limber lion
oh i mean i enjoy non-water drinks all the time
Yeah, I basically drink either or.
Either fun drinks or just water
Can't do both for some reason idk I'm a weirdo I guess
limber lion
Why drink water if I can have a nicer drink
Why drink sodas if I can just drink water
bad brain
thorn fjord
SUGAR
normal mist
Ive been thinking of doing something similar
this is my GF's first gen ipad, since we got her an upgrade, i kept hers. its extremely useful, especially when i go to the kitchen to cook
spice spire
I drink it with water and it's ass
I drink with nightly shake
coral ibex
im very sensitive to dehydration headaches so its just become a habit for me
spice spire
Makes it easy
coral ibex
i would rather kms than have a headache
spice spire
Same
coral ibex
but i'd rather drink water than either lol
coral ibex
drinking nearly a gallon of water a day goes a long way
cobalt sphinx
Not trying to be putting sand in my drinks
limber lion
i would rather kms than have a headache
I have headaches very, very often
Used to have a chronic migraine as a kid
normal mist
oof
coral ibex
especially since being dehydrated is worse for your decision making than being drunk
oh yea man i still get migraines
coral ibex
i had an ocular migraine 2 weeks ago
limber lion
Ouch
coral ibex
couldn't see out of my right eye
normal mist
i had an ocular migraine 2 weeks ago
is that when your eyes hurt?
limber lion
is that when your eyes hurt?
Ocular migraines happen mainly behind the eyes and cause vision deformities/blindness yeah
It's pretty bad
coral ibex
yea my vision was just blurry
limber lion
Not like actual permanent blindness
spice spire
Yeah most of my migraines are ocular
coral ibex
and not like oh i have to squint to see
i mean like the world was censored to my right eye
normal mist
its like theres a pressure there
limber lion
Yeh, can't exactly drive a car legally with that
coral ibex
nope
limber lion
But then again if I have a migraine, I'm not getting out of my bed anyways
thorn fjord
y'all ever fuck with the scam texters?
earnest remnant
Yeah most of my migraines are ocular
my other head hurts when i look at you 
spice spire
my other head hurts when i look at you <a:peepoLeave:952317971836067840>
In November?
earnest remnant
thats why it hurts bud
spice spire
Real
shy axle
just saw on wowhead that there is another recommended m+ build (double vanish + MA, minus sanguine blades). Is that just the new "in" build we take? i did not play much and just copied the m+ build after patch without ma, with blades etc
coral ibex
it depends
spice spire
There’s a lot of permutations of builds you can do
coral ibex
you can play either build really
coral ibex
certain talents got buffed which made the extra vanish talent line more valuable
oak tangle
just think of the meme, "mom can we have assassination rogue... but we have assassination rogue at home..."
shy axle
i will certainly try it now
oak tangle
but every build is assassination at home
shy axle
do you just use vanish aggressivly there for the crit + buffed garrotes? or/and trying to time it with kingsbane like the st build?
oak tangle
also low key, in response to the whole migraine thing from before, I had this cooked thing, where i'd lose all coordination in my lower legs, and then after 5 mins i would only be able to see in my peripherals, and then followed by a kickass headache for the rest of the day. never did find out what was causing it
limber lion
I haven't left the house in 2 days and suddenly it's winter wonderland outside.
spark shore
something like
```
#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover,nohelp,nodead,exists][] Ruptur...
Thanks man
topaz locust
quick question do we macro cold blood or is that giga lazy?
proven jasper
fb gamer
topaz locust
danke
oak tangle
ohh true i forgot that hero talent exists
shy axle
does subterfuge "give" us anything when doing the m+ opener with carnage talented? or is it the same in the end?
thorn fjord
What do you mean by give us something
digital gale
6min dungeon slice for my gear says 1.336M, is that max possible? I play at around 900K 😞
molten flicker
u wanna know if u can do 1.3m dps overall?
bright turret
I could see 900k just being your boss damage, something aint right if that's overall though
cobalt sphinx
does subterfuge "give" us anything when doing the m+ opener with carnage talente...
yes, it increases the duration of master assassin and carnage
and imp gar and shrouded suffocation
shy axle
thank you
cobalt sphinx
and iron wire
runic hinge
quick question do we macro cold blood or is that giga lazy?
Macro to kb
glad lark
!WA
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exotic apex
i hate when tanks chain pull and i dont have time to stealth
vast loom
if i feel like its needed thats usually what i use vanish for
dawn heath
astral plover
no
rotund oak
yes
astral plover
simming more with a haste mastery chest than a crit mastery chest, me no like
rotund oak
why
astral plover
Crit is always funner
pine dew
how often shall i dot in my opener in m+?
cobalt sphinx
you get a ton of crit for free from talents, the marginal gain of stacking crit shouldn't be noticeable
rotund oak
how often shall i dot in my opener in m+?
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rotund oak
first one friend 🙂
rotund oak
you get a ton of crit for free from talents, the marginal gain of stacking crit ...
yes but crit funnier wdym
cobalt sphinx
he said funner
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There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
stray adder
Hello is this the World of Warcraft Rogue community discord server?
rotund oak
Hello is this the World of Warcraft Rogue community discord server?
yes we are
arctic socket
Hello is this the World of Warcraft Rogue community discord server?
No this is Patrick
rotund oak
stray adder
Hello Patrick...
novel star
Hello is this the World of Warcraft Rogue community discord server?
i can be whatever u want me to be…
spice spire
i can be whatever u want me to be…
Dog seek help
spice spire
No this is Patrick
Is this the Krusty Krab
stray adder
look at this jealous boy
novel star
Dog seek help
Didn’t know we lived in communist china 2077 where speaki mg your mind is illegal
awesome bro
spice spire
Just want the homie to get out his frustration
arctic socket
Is this the Krusty Krab
Not krusty 
stray adder
i can be whatever u want me to be…
can you be a roofer for a weekend?
spice spire
It’s fine the choking comment kinda just set the tone for the day
spice spire
Not krusty <a:AG_EmiLaugh:705394992398729266>
But crabs
novel star
can you be a roofer for a weekend?
Not a good one
arctic socket
Didn’t know we lived in communist china 2077 where speaki mg your mind is illega...
Don’t speak illegal
Shh now
arctic socket
But crabs <:PogO:1160145144872435792>
spice spire
Not a good one
Yeah I know you don’t know how to top anything big dog
Now a floorer
I can see that
novel star
I’m going to krill my self bro and i’m not freaking around
spice spire
(Also if the bit has gone too far olii actually let me know)
coral ibex
novel star
🦐
novel star
(Also if the bit has gone too far olii actually let me know)
Bit 
spice spire
novel star
surely a bit
coral ibex
bit of this 
proven jasper
arctic socket
I’m going to krill my self bro and i’m not freaking around
novel star
i meant the beautiful steak and fries i’m spinning in my head rn
that’s what i want a bite of
maybe even fish instead of steak
arctic socket
coral ibex
novel star
years maybe
novel star
need.
novel star
🐶
hearty coral
spice spire
Caustic low outside of that yeah sure
spice spire
OH SHIT QUAKE IS HERE
Please DO NOT announce to the server when You are going to :3 in :3 .This has been a reoccurring issue, and I'm not sure why some people have such under developed social skills that they think that a server full of mostly male strangers would need to know that. No one is going to be impressed and give you a high five (especially considering what emotes you've been using). I don't want to add this to the rules, since it would be embarrassing for new users to see that we have a problem with this, but it is going to be enforced as a rule from now on.
blazing warren
spice spire
They are
novel star
Please DO NOT announce to the server when You are going to :3 in :3 .This has b...
quakey i’m g-gonna :3,,,,>.,<
spice spire
I’m going to kiss you on the lips if you keep on bud
novel star
:333333
spice spire
stray adder
Amazon ruined christmas
let me give you something from amazon in exchange of something from amazon
shy heron
Amazon only ruins Christmas if you let it
stray adder
it does I'm lazy
shy heron
Meanwhile, texting my mom the exact socks I want for Christmas with an Amazon link
novel star
Doing this but the socks are thigh highs with squishy paw pads on the bottom
And i don’t have a mom to send the link to so i’m just buying them for myself with christmas as an excuse
shy heron
It's what Mom would've bought
novel star
she really would have
royal lantern
let me give you something from amazon in exchange of something from amazon
i mean
it doesnt matter where it comes from
Its about giving something that they like and maybe didnt thought about themself
my best friend gave me some t-shirts with shity animal puns 2 years ago and i LOVE THEM
mystic hollow
Hello, it's your friendly neighborhood Prot-Warrior-turned-Assassin. Coming at you with a request for a small log review. Just to make sure I'm doing shit right. Please let me know if I'm missing anything crazy. Please feel free to check any fights in this log (I died on Queen bc I am not used to moving so fucking fast, and I hit sprint while running in during intermission. Went right under her :P)
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LTfZV6QvApR34bXq#fight=29&type=damage-done&source=40
royal lantern
the GOAT is on it
tawdry mica
hii can I ask for a bit of help with my sim
glad osprey
How
do I search characters by certain specs
ex. see top parses by just assassination rogues within the last 2 weeks
coral ibex
warcraft logs
stray adder
i mean
it doesnt matter where it comes from
Its about giving something that th...
Jeff Bezos is living rent free in your head
coral ibex
rankings
stray adder
banish the demon
coral ibex
sort by rogue - assassination
gloomy hinge
Does anyone know how i can fix the marker being on the SIDE of my tank?
runic hinge
:3
narrow wing
Does anyone know how i can fix the marker being on the SIDE of my tank?
Yeah it’s annoying. I couldn’t find a fix for it
royal lantern
Jeff Bezos is living rent free in your head
no
tawdry mica
If I were to upgrade any of these crafted to 636 which would be the best? Sims say messy stuff so im not sure
spice spire
Belt or wrists
I assume your sim says stiletto yeah?
That’s because it’s adding it raw as an embellishment and like yeah 3 embellishments are good
spice spire
To make sure we don’t grab threat on the opener from
The tank
Usually
Or tank dies and gets brezed our threat can go to the tank
wanton needle
Ok thanks
tawdry mica
Belt or wrists
sim says that wrist would be the optimal if I must choose just 1
but weirdly enough, it says that an hypothetical belt + weapon combination would be worse than wrist alone
iron prism
hey gang is lethality worth not taking x2 vanish?
I pug alot so tanks arent that friendly to the restealth in general
spice spire
Offhand means little
slate crown
Does anyone know how i can fix the marker being on the SIDE of my tank?
It's showing on the side because you have friendly nameplates turned on (and an addon that is hiding the bar and only showing the name). You can tell by the font on the names, they have outlines. The standard names that aren't outline'd are non-nameplates
spice spire
So that makes sense to me
slate crown
disable friendly unit nameplates
tawdry mica
Yeah, now that I think about it my current belt has a socket so it has more value
I guess that's why
royal lantern
hey gang is lethality worth not taking x2 vanish?
sim it
spice spire
tawdry mica
Wrist it is, thank you!
tawdry mica
😄 relatively new to rogue and it's hella funny
spice spire
Glad you enjoy. Big rogue fan myself 
iron prism
sim it
Only a 20k difference for alot of utility with the additional vanish imma have to go x2 vanish
spice spire
iron prism
Damn thats a handsome dog @spice spire
clever sapphire
"For Fatebound the timing is slightly different, and you will want to Vanish for Edge Case instead, but still apply your Improved Garrote"
i was looking at fatebound rota on wowhead and saw this. Edgecase procs on deathmark tho no? so i dont really understand this part
spice spire
Damn thats a handsome dog <@226508540746006528>
Ty he’s literally my best friend. Here’s a picture where he’s my sleep paralysis demon for your troubles
golden loom
Vanish for 2nd cold blood evis during deathmark @clever sapphire
golden loom
Not evis, envenom ofc 😄
clever sapphire
yeye no worries got that part
merry bison
Ty he’s literally my best friend. Here’s a picture where he’s my sleep paralysis...
such a cutiepatoootie
spice spire
royal lantern
Damn thats a handsome dog <@226508540746006528>
George is the best dog
arctic socket
@spice spire
spice spire
<@226508540746006528>
Dog what the fuck
torpid sparrow
i just tried the ring trickz , craft/recraft , didnt works , they fixed it?
lethal turtle
Dog what the fuck
Don’t use any other body part quake
spice spire
What do you mean by that
lethal turtle
i just tried the ring trickz , craft/recraft , didnt works , they fixed it?
You have to have it made by two separate people. May take a few log outs.
torpid sparrow
oh
lethal turtle
I did it on my ring last week and my dagger recently. Both work
quiet oar
I HATE KINGSBANE BEING PARRYABLE
lethal turtle
Different people. Different stats
normal mist
I HATE KINGSBANE BEING PARRYABLE
i love you tho
quiet oar
i love you tho
ily too :3
elfin valley
On m silken are we just sometimes losing our hero talent ?
quiet oar
Can happen
balmy condor
if you're not paying attention yeh
elfin valley
Is there a time when we just say fuck it and not envenom to prevent losing it
I'm just trying to prep the best I can for it as we start prog tonight
coral ibex
my experience so far is that when you need to hold your DN proc its ok to just pool bc you are about to slam cds into a damage amp
frosty bridge
i dont get it, is the diamond main stat crit increase gem dogwater or do sims just ignore the effect
quiet oar
Whisp
frosty bridge
i dont think i have ever seen a sim where it tries to go for it
frosty bridge
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/u3BaCBeCUjtpa7jd9NiS8x like most combinations have 7x of the same gem
quiet oar
I think
coral ibex
i'd double check your sim settings all around
frosty bridge
it waas from a previous sim but ye
frosty bridge
i thought the timer doesnt matter for it anyway, thought 6 is default anyway
coral ibex
idk
frosty bridge
i'd double check your sim settings all around
nah man no shot, i dont think i ever got a sim with gem colors for the mains tat thing
frosty bridge
LOL
frosty bridge
ok just forget the last 50 lines i wrote im dumb
i had no idea that was a thing gg
crimson zephyr
GB10, died 2 times (trash) 1.38m ilvl 628 - any obvious mistake?
umbral sierra
if im tanking grim batol im forcing all rogues to take tiny toxic blades. worst experience of my life bricking a key bc rogue is refusing to shiv enrages
crimson zephyr
maybe I died 3 times hmm -was a ++ run tho
proper seal
Is the water ring from last boss in siege an AoE? Meaning, does feint work?
crimson zephyr
if im tanking grim batol im forcing all rogues to take tiny toxic blades. worst ...
why the talent tho
spice spire
if im tanking grim batol im forcing all rogues to take tiny toxic blades. worst ...
You mean lightweight or
umbral sierra
why the talent tho
so it hits both overseers during the 2nd pull of the dungeon
spice spire
Oh you mean arterial
spice spire
Nah it’s a toxic ass design
umbral sierra
no reason a healer cant use cds and keep me up with meta active in a +8 with 2 overseers when we have a rogue
crimson zephyr
so it hits both overseers during the 2nd pull of the dungeon
ah ye - well I'm still a noob so I never game much thought to the whole shiv enrage thing ty
spice spire
Is the water ring from last boss in siege an AoE? Meaning, does feint work?
You have to feint before it’s placed on you even with elusiveness apparently
gloomy heart
Is the water ring from last boss in siege an AoE? Meaning, does feint work?
If you stand on others it knocks you and them in the air and take damage
I just dwarf it off
quiet oar
MY KB GET PARRIED HERE
spice spire
The gyat is too much
quiet oar
Im so mad
umbral sierra
did the boss just start to move, and or were u in the air/ on the way down/just landed
crimson zephyr
is the whol thing "from behind a mob cant parry" still true?
harsh anchor
If you don’t parry a KB during a pull, that’s how you know it isn’t the kill pull
quiet oar
did the boss just start to move, and or were u in the air/ on the way down/just ...
I mean he did an animation
but based on the circle
gloomy heart
mage gets it first try rogue has 5 attempts
proper seal
If you stand on others it knocks you and them in the air and take damage
same, I cloak and dwarf two. But after that I just die, even with feint
quiet oar
im more than 90 degrees away
gloomy heart
same, I cloak and dwarf two. But after that I just die, even with feint
What key level
proper seal
What key level
11, 622 ilvl
cobalt sphinx
yeah you just need to get dispelled
evasion is pretty good DR
but rogue just dies to it
gloomy heart
Glad you arent the one to blame others and ask what you can do better, good mindset
quiet oar
mage gets it first try rogue has 5 attempts
But a rank 2 socket 
gloomy heart
But a rank 2 socket <:sus:787773784085757972>
what do i look like i am poor
proper seal
do people run elusiveness instead of cheat death on higher keys?
gloomy heart
like 12+ i think
rich elbow
Should i just be crafting a belt?
I've just looted a https://www.wowhead.com/item=221134/shadow-congregants-belt in hero track. But i'd rather put the stones and crests toward my myth track gear..
cobalt sphinx
you can buy a belt on the AH
rich elbow
I am poor
humble verge
are the boe's good for us ?
belt is ok
brave leaf
I’m suuuper new to assassination, in the subterfuge window, what do we do exactly?
spice spire
They’re fine. You can catalyze them so
humble verge
I’m suuuper new to assassination, in the subterfuge window, what do we do exactl...
opener or in general after using vanish?
brave leaf
Opener! But in general
royal lantern
MY KB GET PARRIED HERE
FREE ME FROM COUNCIL
humble verge
but what you want is to ofcourse garrote and rupture in sub window
runic hinge
MY KB GET PARRIED HERE
He ass so fat she parry from the back
brave leaf
Do we more or less do the same thing after spreading bleeds? Including envenom?
So sorry haha. I’ve been scratching my head over this for weeks
Or is the ambush better, say, on ST just in the window
brave leaf
thank you!
upper oak
there is no way to toggle the auto tea usage right?
fervent nest
Is there a noticeable dps diff between 1/2 lethality & Without a trace ?
spice spire
No
upper oak
!tea
prisma monolithBOT
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
more like a comfy difference then ?
main hemlock
is ara kara or crystal better for ST boss?
spice spire
Not a major diff st all there’s like 60 variations
main hemlock
both myth maxxed
spice spire
is ara kara or crystal better for ST boss?
St ara Kara unless you have giga haste
main hemlock
with ara kara trinket
royal lantern
i know
cobalt sphinx
FEELS WORSE
cobalt sphinx
i don't think you would be able to tell the difference between any passive stat trinkets if you didn't look at your character sheet
subtle tundra
you will never feel 13k dps
main hemlock
ye me neither
cobalt sphinx
neither the gameplay nor the results
royal lantern
@balmy condor daily stupid question from me inc
when you use CDs on dmg amp on council, when should you use the 2nd set of cds? at start of p2, or after the dmg amp in p2
cobalt sphinx
so i wouldn't chalk that one up to the trinket swap
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> daily stupid question from me inc
when you use CDs on dmg...
damage amp
cause you can't cd during the intermission
cause it's a dps hold
so then at that point it's the same logic as the first phase
quiet oar
<@167090536602140682> daily stupid question from me inc
when you use CDs on dmg...
Most Stats Remember
arctic tusk
does cloak still drop webs on ansurek pulls/wrest
humble verge
welp
legs from vault and wrists from ovi
good day
wouldve preferred to have gotten legs from ulgrax today but nono
royal lantern
cause you can't cd during the intermission
i dont mean DURING the intermission
i mean after it
if you send immediatly, or wait for the dispell dmg amp phase
runic hinge
you will never feel 13k dps
Especially where we’re doing over a million dps. It’s so marginal
royal lantern
Especially where we’re doing over a million dps. It’s so marginal
thats the problem with big numbers tbh
people see 22k and think its some giga important gain
humble verge
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iMyF4uSzusA9quwzNQArGp could i even improve by f.exp switching to mastery gems over crit at all
upper oak
debating moving ironwire and sudden demise over to the ttk, and sanguine blades build. is there any major differences in playstyle doing that? primarily looking to better my m+ dmg
runic hinge
debating moving ironwire and sudden demise over to the ttk, and sanguine blades ...
You can sim it in dslice and then sim like a 3 minute Patchwerk no buffs to see the difference
runic hinge
Yeah same play style
upper oak
also only playing around the 10 range currently so maybe that will make a difference in terms of how long mobs stay up
cobalt sphinx
i suppose without ttk you wouldn't envenom if your first was longer than pandemic
balmy condor
if you send immediatly, or wait for the dispell dmg amp phase
yes, that's what I mean, you already have to wait for the start of the phase, so then the time it takes for the dispel amp is that same time you waited for the charge in p1, so you hold for it
balmy condor
if there wasn't a damage hold in the intermission, we could send it on intermission shields instead, but we already have to hold for that, so the time spent holding until the amp is whatever
royal lantern
ye fair point
humble verge
also only playing around the 10 range currently so maybe that will make a differ...
11 and up i would keep ironwire
maybe could skip it for 11 too but idk
upper oak
yeah, i was just looking at higher ranked rogues and saw some of them running ttk
full tide
IW makes pugging easier and in some dungeons on high keys it's "necessary"
I personally always play ttk and swap sanguine if I'm playing IW
quiet oar
yes, that's what I mean, you already have to wait for the start of the phase, so...
Is it really that common still to hold?
I know we didnt
full tide
ttk sims decently higher on ST for me which I imagine is the reasoning behind it over sudden demise/sanguine
upper oak
yeah i sim higher on ttk as well
balmy condor
Is it really that common still to hold?
the 5th or 6th time we saw intermission we pushed right after the last set of orbs spawned and it was just gg
quiet oar
We pushed right after the 3rd set i think
and i think you would wait for the 4th right?
upper oak
is sudden demise more useful in lower keys i take it, where things just die really fast?
full tide
I feel like it is
at least you aren't so sad when you dot things and they disappear
I've tried it a few times when boosting people through 10s/farming lower crests but haven't done many keys above 10 with it
playing ttk + sd/iw
upper oak
yeah, i think i actually was looking at your build as well earlier. its not really mentioned on any community guides ive seen. So mainly just asking myself what are other people doing different and doing some research.
lavish geyser
bro... how!
gusty mirage
<:CatChest:1018927692558635099>
wowie!
spice spire
<:CatChest:1018927692558635099>
KPBussy when
spice spire
Damn
spice spire
@twilit hollow
spice spire
Hot
final star
Clucking out
snow kindle
!wa
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's Group
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LE's Rogue Collection
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runic hinge
<:CatChest:1018927692558635099>
You’re so huge
twilit hollow
i am summoned
balmy condor
I'm also a big fan
spice spire
Nice
twilit hollow
Figured you should know
Im a big fan of my big fan
final star
spice spire
Hell yeah
twilit hollow
runic hinge
golden wasp
so when should u fan of knives instead of mutilate in m+?
balmy condor
2
tepid breach
and after apply deathstalker mark
balmy condor
sure yeah
paper raptor
Cold blood matter when its cast anymore? since it is an Envenom builder?
balmy condor
it does yes, because you need it for deathmark flips
that's why we macro it to kingsbane
paper raptor
ah that is where i have it now..macro'd to KB
balmy condor
perfect
paper raptor
thanks for the response
royal lantern
<:CatChest:1018927692558635099>
still waiting for my mythic shoulders
last slot and the game refuses to give me some
royal lantern
it does yes, because you need it for deathmark flips
btw, we use vanish for the 2nd CB boosted envenom as fliphead?
saw something like that getting said here
balmy condor
btw, we use vanish for the 2nd CB boosted envenom as fliphead?
yes, first or second are both fine
technically the first is better cause you double flip earlier so you have higher heads stacks earlier, and on non-opener bursts you're able to garrote earlier
but you also vanish earlier and MA earlier
royal lantern
yes, first or second are both fine
actually didnt knew that tbh, i just used vanish for the last kb seconds +imp garrotte like i did for deathtalker
balmy condor
which isn't ideal
merry bison
royal lantern
thanks for the update on that o/
balmy condor
there's probably some breakpoint of how many X seconds since kb cast you can still vanish first
like if you have to mut x3
you can vanish first
if you mut x1 cause deal fate
you vanish second
balmy condor
like there's that stupid cringe timing stuff
brave stump
The diablo tc giving helpful assa Infos?
balmy condor
so in general idk just vanish second
royal lantern
The diablo tc giving helpful assa Infos?
the barbarian diablo TC
balmy condor
wait, doesnst that gurantee a 7flip then
there's no way to guarantee
brave stump
Sorry my bad
royal lantern
there's no way to guarantee
i continue to hate it then
balmy condor
the barbarian diablo TC
they let the diablo news writer TC barbarian builds? that's wild
balmy condor
i continue to hate it then <:kekdog:907207037757296710>
in order to get the capstone you need to hit 1 flip basically
on pull you get 2 from rupture, then you need to hit the envenom to 3, and then deathmark/cold blood/vanish get you to 7 guaranteed
royal lantern
they let the diablo news writer TC barbarian builds? that's wild
they also let a guy that doesnt even have 3.8k r.io write m+ builds for rogue, smh my head
royal lantern
in order to get the capstone you need to hit 1 flip basically
i know i know
but my bad rng with that is legit incredible
royal lantern
like, everytime i use it for fun on heroic i manage to go multiple fights without the capstone triggering once
its legit insane
slate crown
still waiting for my mythic shoulders
Would buy for u if you were NA 
royal lantern
awww
mystic hollow
Logs are so much easier to review than a details meter
runic hinge
like, everytime i use it for fun on heroic i manage to go multiple fights withou...
Same
Hit 3 6 flips in the fight but never get capstone
cobalt sphinx
internal bleeding maxxer
cobalt sphinx
you need caustic spatter my guy
leaden epoch
how do i get it
leaden epoch
do i always mutilate
cobalt sphinx
that ui is kinda clean
leaden epoch
and not fan of knives?
leaden epoch
and then fan of knives?
balmy condor
fan of knives is your main aoe generator yes
merry bison
is it worth popping a tea for having 2 stacks of envenom? Like scenario when have 2 teas left and just want to maintain the second envenom stack and dropping below 30 energy for that , how valuable is it and what is the priority with that build
balmy condor
are you in shiv?
merry bison
theoretically ye
balmy condor
then you should be drinking tea regardless
merry bison
ye and without shiv its not worth dropping below 30 for a second stack tho?
balmy condor
doesn't matter
merry bison
oh
balmy condor
letting it auto-drink vs forcing yourself to not auto-drink
is BARELY outside of margin
late tusk
but do you drink tea on 2 mins cd window?
Despite you are full enery or close to taht
Like first Mist pull
balmy condor
you macro it to shiv
balmy condor
nop
late tusk
Im used to use Shiv every 30s
cinder birch
Trying to figure out how high key logs show Caustic Splatter so high up on the parse, normally mine is in 4th place :/ Does it help choosing a mob that is more centralized in the pack or best to target highest HP one?
merry bison
so just doing rotation without taking care of accidentally popping a tea is the play? Except you're about to pop shiv and kb to have a tea ready for the window?
balmy condor
Im used to use Shiv every 30s
that's fine
late tusk
Trying to figure out how high key logs show Caustic Splatter so high up on the p...
Then you are doign wrong, caustic is one of your prios
balmy condor
Trying to figure out how high key logs show Caustic Splatter so high up on the p...
you have to maintain it 100% of the time on whatever you're hitting
like you shouldn't be in AoE pressing envenom on something that doesn't have spatter
you always get spatter up before you do that
balmy condor
so just doing rotation without taking care of accidentally popping a tea is the ...
you macro it and forget it exists
like once it's macro'd you can pretty much just delete any tracker you have
merry bison
like you shouldn't be in AoE pressing envenom on something that doesn't have spa...
even with max cp? Wouldnt it be more useful to send crimson into mutilate tho?
balmy condor
crimson tempest would already be up
merry bison
like once it's macro'd you can pretty much just delete any tracker you have
God bless, thanks I was just playing with my trigger finger to not drop a tea without shi
merry bison
crimson tempest would already be up
ye but a refresh wouldnt be worth instead of wasting the cp on a mutilate to have splatter up?
balmy condor
I mean if it's in pandemic yeah
but if it's not in pandemic why are you pressing it
merry bison
mhhh ye sounds reasonable
worldly sail
got a huge green log on ansurek
plush gorge
!tea
prisma monolithBOT
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
How do I go about fixing my caustic splatters, is there a weak aura or something i can do to make it more noticeable? I have my last run here
details says i have 4549 hits atm
for that run
ornate wagon
How much haste do you guys have for m+ please? I know we energy starve in st but man it feels horrible 😩
cinder birch
i was at 5000 points in haste, but have 6400 now
cinder birch
raidbots keeps telling me to put more, dont know if i should trust it
balmy condor
you'd need like 15-20% haste to even notice