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Someone ban him
Diddy
wtf
westbrick 🤢
A month?
don't fucking lie to me
Idk man whispyr sends me some shit
@balmy condor ????????????????
And my algorithm goes fucky wuxky
This channel is horsemeet larpers
all i know is this is the only video i need from now on
based
lowkey wanna make it a weakaura
damn got heroic raid cloak but anvil hide is myth track
but did you watch it with sound on?
Yes
cause im worried
That’s just a car
if i made it a weakaura
I have some dude who makes my weakauras for like 10-50kcper
It’s a bunch of Patrick Mahomes glazing commentary
Btw been maining enh shaman this whole week. The difference in anger for tanks not chain pulling vs me on my rogue crying when they do
It’s fuckin palpable
sin is pretty fun, i cannot lie. makes me wonder why i ever only played outlaw before
Bc outlaw is unironically going to be the better spec in about 4 weeks
outlaw is fun, i do feel like sin is easier
what is making outlaw better?
Gear
shit, should i gear for outlaw then?
i was just about to craft 2 636 daggers
no
Do what your heart says
Be a slave to the Darkest Night meta
assa > outlul in terms of gameplay imo
Or be a professional gambler
Outlaw is fine with chain pulls in m+ with how often vanish comes off CD though
So less annoying for others
Chain pulling when done right is great for ass. When tanks incorrectly "chain pull" a singular mobile with 5 percent health into the next pack...that's when sin feels garbage.
That’s not chain pulling
so only stats are making outlaw better?
better scaling?
I sit in the back and wait for that 1 mob to die so i can restealth out of spite
Same lol
Agreed. I do the same. But that's why I had it in quotes. Some tanks don't know or, or don't care, that it isn't good for us.
Just run double vanish mental saved
Hi guys. Is it mandatory to always ask what's the best spec for m+ in here?
Just wondering
Ez
really depends on what you mean by better
more damage ig
outlaw has no burst at all and bf is hard capped
The two specs rogue have are fun. Shame we don't have a third.
didnt even have to look at the other options
mythic dagger
already got like 4 of them in the bags sadly
Outlaw also has no ramp up, so 10s and below are good for you
Whereas by the time you garrote rupture and CT everything in a big pull with ass
It’s at 50% hp
ig ill craft both daggers and sword
massive waste of crests
you should not craft more than one dagger period
You can offhand a dagger in outlaw
"hand weapon" xD
Definitely craft one dagger
now don't get me wrong, i have zero clue about outlaw, but i do find it humorous that the person telling us outlaw gonna be strong has a yellow name
i have a bunch saved, i just hit level 80 yesterday, did normal, heroic, and am doing normal and heroic again right now, plus i did all +9 keys yesterday
Stfu everyone in the yellow name!!!!!
Just play with people who have trash dps. 🙂
Im*
I do. 🙂
That’s why I’m ass rn
Lololo
This seems like a good point to ask about how much haste sin requires
0
Very little, IIRC
That’s the neat part
there is never a good point to ask this
ok just to reiterate crafting an offhand is a massive waste of crests
You don’t!!!
Untrue
100%
Oof
No
ya
Sim the other ring at max and sim a crafted ring
Doesn’t mean anything
A 636 crafted ring will have just as much
correct
stats aren’t real
I am trash. I consult wowhead and Sims, I can't play this game by myself.
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
hi all, i just got a mythic Ara Kara sac brood in vault, with a mythic Gloves.
is the Ara Kara good for anything like single target fights?
?
And outlaw aswell if you ever plan on playing that
that is a statement of all statements
Why does the bis list put deadspy above it?
not sure its voracity though
Not keys
oh really? damn i thought it was skardyns trinket and the dawnbreaker one.
i really dunno please forgive my noobness.
Don’t apologize
Yes skars and transmitter you always use one on use
639 offhand (already have 639 MH) or 639 Skardyn's Grace?!
i'm gonna need your credentials sir
huh Mandate that much better than 639 sac?
Vault was kind to me
You did 3m fight
sacbrood is basically equal to spyglass on ST, and spyglass pulls ahead in aoe
yeah i simmed the hero unseeming ring with crafted and then pact(619) wiith crafted and it still simmed higher

i dont have a 639 anub. so use mythic ara kara one + skardyns would you suggest that?
my anub is 626
please sim your options
dont trust people throwing out one liners in discord
Oh yeah, let me redo with 5min length and see
Yeah I would unless you want true bis and wait for anub. Da brood is just a solid choice
If you want current bis I’d take it but personally I was changing my rings 24/7 during prog
Ah ok, 5min sac wins, makes sense
fair, ty for the help
I hate my spyglass now btw bc it sims well but it always procs on a small mob that dies in 5 secs
Ggot it thanks alot man
cheers will take a look
Woah woah!!! Sim urself!!! Reeeee
lol
im simming myself but argh i just wanna feelycraft sometimes u know
Assassination discord fears the free thinker
blood mallet gives you a baseline to feelcraft from
yay ty
why the sudden change from top tier players from dwarf to nelf?
Hi, is it better to have 2 crit enbelishments instead os 1 ascendance + other?
are we all large this day?
!craft
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
Free stealth
whats the difference between the 2 links you posted?
but what changed mid season?
i just can't watch someone say sacbrood is bis in all situations and stay silent
ST vs 5 target
like a week or 2 weeks ago most top m+ players were dwarves
now they race changed to nelves
thx
Not dying to dispel mechanics instantly
this is 3k more dps than a 639 skardyn 
yeah but you can get another myth ring
you say that but i’ve passed up 4 myth rings in the vault and haven’t won a loot roll other than rogue exclusive loot
TY man. i simmed myself and seems the Ara Kara is 0.4% DPS loss in dungeon slice, but it may pull ahead in ST
seems reasonable
wait its 0.3% less
i mean it's 13 ilvls of agi
sorry
I wouldn’t lie 
put in a 639 spyglass and see what teh sim says then though
Yeah it win
Is mythic skardyn and mythic sac a good combo for mythic + and raid?
youre simming yourself with all buffs btw :3
should do it with what buffs you'd usually get to get a better reference
no sir
oh man
its behind crystal
Ah okay
Do you want to know a very effective way to rip a parse?
die?
quick question. on an m+ trash pull: whats your prio for caustic ? i find that my ramp up when i try to dot all targets with indiscriminte carnage is so long that by the time my caustic gets applied all adds are dead. should i lay off the dots a bit on lower keys and just ct into envenom on caustic ? or am i doing something different wrong
Ya you can get a mythic ring drop from raid
you splatter the highest hp mob
the one you ALSO mark
should be actively only splattering that until it dies
also
on low keys idk
i have not done anything under 12 in weeks D:
Get summed to raid and straight into pull from an m+ and have exhaustion debuff. Without reset.
yeah thats my problem i pick a prio target and then try to dot everything before i mutilate and envenom but that takes so long that all adds are dead and my ramp up just falls flat. is that just low key andy problems or is there something im doing fundamentally wrong
you apply dots for energy regen to pump into a big target, you dont have to dot ALL targets, but you should dot 5 ruptures
Pick the ring you won’t
woof
noob raider, -50 dkp
those are certainly choices
Max stacks of scent of blood then caustic time
Yes -dkp indeed. Also -dkp for being on work trip until sunday. That's for sure a big rip in my dkp-bank?
i already took skardyns, i have myth spyglass
gachi
ok thats probably it :D so i just need to get my 5 ruptures. i was hellbent on dotting everything
gkick
so would you guys take a mythic Ara Kara or mythic tier gloves from vault?
yeah i was tunneled on trying to dot every mob and roach in the pull makes sense :D ty for the tip
just feels bad letting the ara kara go, cause its a trinket after all :/
i have mythic skardyn and heroic crystal
@sleek spear @gloomy heart here is my dungeon slice sim with the trinkets compared, at same ilvl as each other
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2PqVAZ8BSSs2wSaJN4X2zc
as for which one you should pick, can't tell you, seeing another arakara is rarer though, however, in the grand scheme, the patch is slowly dying, so the trinket won't matter soon anyway
its actually so close
like a 0.3% difference between ara kara and the heroic Anub
wtf is this
i recrafted an item
Gloves are sikran and he’s farmed in lfg
the 0.0001% upgrade to go for armor banding is worth it
early patch i had 619 belt, and used gildeds to make 636 wrist
then recrafted the belt to 636
pepepains
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9SwTXejmcEiQMT1LfZfbuw
i simmed myself with great vault items. how do i read this?
it says ara kara is 0.4% increase?
but gloves is 0.5%?
i have mythic skardyns and hero crystal rn
it's irrelevant
haven’t opened vault
Doesn’t Blood drop good wrists for us?
JUST PICK THE TRINKET WE ALL KNOW YOU WANT IT
Anyone have advise on single target dps?
yeah think yo uare right bro
could be good for ST
press buttons do damage
dont let bleeds fall
Be in melee range
as others have said you can always get gloves
but chances of getting a specific trinket
are pretty low
Idk what I am doing wrong lol
Are you staying in melee range?
yeah agreed. thanks so much bro appreciate it
gloves can come by easy
3,5 methods to get gloves
ye I always go for specific trinkets if they're there
vault, myth raid, myth tier token, crafted 636
specific trinkets a little harder. even though i might not use it, having it always a feel good feeling as a backup
I think I am for the most part. Unless I am clearing stuff for mechs
See there’s your problem. Mechanics
1 way to get myth sacbrood
yes so true here. i did not think of that
man oxi advice is so goated
U GUYS help a ton in my decision making
i was about to take the gloves for a 0.5% increase lol
i would personally take the trinket, purely for the pokemon aspect
my mind says gloves, but heart sats ara kara trinket
no
Vanish for DM garrote damage and MA, keep shivs and tea for DM and kingsbane, other than that just blast everything on cooldown
Make sure your bleeds are refreshed before running around doing mechanics
no, but realistically who tf needs 5 pc tier
Transmog?!?
I want to quote the dear boss of setthekk halls, "great power in trinkets"
yeah at 619 iirc
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dZH7SftDoDPbt7ZMGwASVE
WOW seems ara kara is actually pretty good dps increase for single target
800k ST with that ilvl??? Are you simming without talents??
he simming aoe build
OOPS
i simmed AOE build for Single Target
without raid buffs
i mean if you want single target raid, then you want buff on, if you simming m+ st then you have it right already
Got it! thanks this is very helpful!:D
Why do we not hit slice and dice anymore?
envenom hits it
hey folks is a Seal of the Poisoned Pact ring good for sin ? sims says that is a dps loss for me but I see many poeple using that ring at higher ranks, they say that is a st gain in m+. I already have 639 rings
procced by other skills
Ahh makes sense
what ilvl are you comparing it with
Does serrated bone spike stack on single target
626 Seal of the Poisoned Pact vs 639 crit mastery ring
I just compared my logs with another rogue and my amplifying poisons damage is lower than it should be. What am I doing wrong?
that's 13 ilvl dawg 🙂
it's not uber strong like that
impossible to answer without logs
Could be perhaps that I’m not hitting envenom enough? I’ll send some through
could be any number of things 🙂 could also be related to poison applications, which in the end kinda boils down to envenom i guess
Heyy. I'm new to the assassin rogue. On the internet you can find a lot of different "best skills" and accordingly a lot of different rotations. Can someone help me with this? I only play M+. Im a little confused now, which talents to play and which rota. Thanks alot 🙂
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tknW3ZaeFF597wnzipATWz
ara kara is a 26% dps increase? did i mess something up this time?
rotation is static for all builds, barring some slight changes, but they aren't unexpected
no, it's 26% better than your current character which has m+ talents
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
so i need to switch my character to single target build. then sim again right?
no
in the box down below, you can click and it will go relative to that sim
so in that one, the only difference between your m+ and the one i clicked, is thetalents
ur character currently has dslice talents so no,its fine.U simmed properly
yup
silkrans any good for us?
arakara is sht btw
Thanks alot 🙂
hi,
sometimes in my dungeon runs, I can't jump on my ally with a mouseover if the guy is a horde character, how should I proceed ?
I have this :
#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover,harm,nodead] [@mouseover,help,nodead][]Shadowstep
we've been through it, it's a 13 ilvl myth track upgrade vs nothing
whatever u do dont check the bis overall list on the guide 
agi alone partly makes up for it
yeah im just hatin' 
stupid@ss trinket
lol so i guess yes
believe it’s awful
now the only caveat i have for you ST sims is whether you do a 2/3/5 min sim, cause if you are a heroic enjoyer, then that changes things
!lag
Significant WA lag
Weakauras has identified a source of large lag on some weakauras. This happens on any weakauras using MODELS in their display tab. Deleting the model or turning the affected weakaura to never load should give back a couple of FPS.
You can check for impacted weakauras by running the following script in your in-game chat. If any are affected, their name will show in your chat: lua /run local function _(a)if a.regionType=="model"then return 1 end for i,s in pairs(a.subRegions or{})do if s.type=="submodel"then return 1 end end end for n,a in pairs(WeakAurasSaved.displays)do if _(a)then print(n)end end
yeah its b tier
looks like im replacing my 447 pants
the wowhead guide isnt good?
not that, bis lists are dumb
they assume all the items
if you dont have one, the others may not be bis
its basicly the most reliable information,even better than streamers that know everything and still do everything wrong
Am i doing something wrong and caustic spatter doesnt trigger on some bosses?
what's happening? which boss in which situation
got it!
I am leveling (yeah, you can laugh) and I am applying rupture + garrotte. Then just mutilating does nothing. On normal mobs it works fine.
normal mobs -> elite non boss
you need to apply poisons first, elites have nothing to do with it
nice! easy
Hey guys when I use Ascendance, what should I be using other than Windstrike?
i think you want to use "latest" and not "weekly" simc build
Why would we laugh at you leveling

#enhance
bruh my keybinds are so janky send help
Karma for cooking too hard
Imagine complaining about keybinds. Like bro play a shaman
Nah
Literally too many fuckin random buttons
hi old friend
For totems and shit
congrats on your skardyns
I guess except I never really cooked hard enough to deserve this
That’s not even that big of a complaint
I used to use qe to strafe now i'm trying to switch to ad and idk how you guys do it
hello
Shadow dance season one begs to differ
Of df
Oh yeah I forgot. I shouldn't have quit
just curious, do trinkets have higher chance to drop in vault?
one of us
seems like it
i spent my formative years playing counterstrike, personally i dont know how tf you could accept qe to strafe
at least i am ready for when I hit 80 
huge
Unironically bis till mythic
For people who use wasd: how the fuck do you do your rotation when you're moving
100% why i rolled rogue
fingers be dancing
I was thinking about it but it pushed me
Like imagine using mut on 1 or q but then have to move left
in the rythm, get that groove
Why not enhance
I used to play way too much league so my fingers naturally went to qwer
yeah you still have time to go enhance
Because I’m a hater
it's not soulbound yet
But now i'm washed at everything and i'm trying to figure out what is actually the best
my mut is on 2, i use my middle / ring finger depending on if im strafing or not
Does anyone know how to sim different items?
yah right now i'm thinking mut 2 fok 3 and then envenom e rup r gar f
trying to compare different items from vault
Go /simc with vault open
idk if stitchflesh scalpel is good but its myth and my other weapons (regicide and blood kissesd) are hero
And best will pop out
ohhhh
100% that dagger gonna win when upgraded max
Weapon likely
But it’s a good exercise for learning! Also don’t forget to max each piece out with crests
ty :) yeah im new
You’re good big dog
I remember the log
Honest questions are very understandable and welcome 🙂
we were all new at some point, best to come at it with helpfulness than trolling
ya i totally agree
Once you know enough I’ll troll tho, like with @slow marsh
i'm still new
LOL
Too bad memz I’m gonna cook ur ass next question you ask
I haven't played for long enough that I can maybe actually get away with it
dont look in sub chat
I’d never
my questions are obscure, and so in depth even whispyr can't answer
btw how many enemies do ya'll use fans on
is it 3+ or just 2
i keep hearing different answer
2+ with mod rolling iirc
bruh i daze the f out and fan on 1 some times
Safe for 3
But also if you’re running deathstalker every clear the witness you’ll use fan either way
i have the proc for DN i fan, mentally cussing myself going dumbass you gotta hit the DN first
and then there's in m+ when everything dies except one target but you still rolling with the fans
Bro Is too league coded
low key though, how many fok enjoyers are there when the raiders in sob or similar mobs tell you to fuck off out of melee, so you fan while out there
even on ST
I dona't even play it anymore and it still manages to be toxic in my life somehow
I’d never
yeah i do i just wasnt sure if i should use fan of knives as my builder for 2
i know u want to cast it once either way once u have the mark but like
see this is the question i would have for whispyr
is it worth fokking, to keep up momentum of depair if a 5+ target CT is still rolling on a ST mob
bro what
I swear to god memz if you ever run into this exact scenario I’ll actually fly to @ember mural and kiss him on the lips in front of his wife
and alsoooooo how would I sim gems?
but realistically, CTW covers it
that's a bit more complicated but I assume I can optimize it since like
there's 498181 combinations
and idk what to use 😭
Run through a couple of conbos, figure out what gem stats it sims for (ie if it’s all crit mast, use all crit combos and all mast combos) and narrow down from there
i chose to take 1 of all gem types, purely cause it means that doing gem combo sims can eat a dick
It’s a process without premium ngl
what gives slice on envenom?
CTTC
rekt
bruh

You're an extender
W
I hardly know er

Go to sleep wth
1pm 
it's reset day
raid at 9 cant sleep 
Krill issue
I feel this
low key, if i get up within 15 mins of waking, my legs sometimes stop working
Old
i can'tt get angry, last time i got in a heated argument, they stopped working then too
imagine you get in a fist fight and your oponent just falls to the floor before you hit them
im 1994 born and raised
i no longer have a number less than 3 in my age each year
Yeah
dan gyou're old
Aren’t you also 32 you old bitch
oh nvm
Hell yeah 
Ye
32 isn’t very old
can confirm 30's is a cliff
but i’m 21 and my knees are fucked so what do i know
maybe i’ll feel like 30 is old when i’m 30
the funnel goes crazy
i wish my ailments were an age thing
Like outside of the end of last year being cataclysmic for me mentally.
30s have been chill
ur not old until like 55
see if i make it there
55 sounds like grey hairs on the side, chilling in linen shirts drinking cocktails by the pool
which one?
buddy my beard started greying last year
Whichever sims higher
hell yeah, congrats on wizard status
Idk the rest of your stuff
I found my first two months ago
😮
my forehead is rapidly incresing in size, and yoinked my first grey like 5 years ago
anyone watching the chinese MDI?
i'm slightly confused why the stream ui is in chinese, cause youtube is banned there
with english commentary
oh damn i got baited, its a rebroadcast
still tho
guys
why is my treacherous transmitter simming high than skardyns
higher
and what one do i use ._.
because it’s better
On ST ye
the one you want to use
meowdy sin rogues 
hows everyones vault
socket
I don't mind playing around the transmitter
it's just weird with everyone here saying skardyns is the best when my transmitter is simming higher
the marginal gain from transmitter is lost by having to do silly things to activate it
i don’t think anyone says skardyns does more damage than transmitter
it’s just aids to play
are you gonna go stand in fire to activate your trinket
just aim it 
aim this 
you can control where the thing spawns tho
you cant control where it moves if it’s the orb
so i ask again
i’ll be pressing skardyn with a smile
i feel like on rogue the transmitter isn't that difficult to use compared to other classes
playable for sure
but it’s still kinda cancer
and i would stop playing it if i got skardyns on her

yeah I have both
upgrading one trinket doesn’t discount the other slot right
how big of a difference does the skardyn's make?? like idk
that is answered by a sim
!guide
Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
I can always swip swap like maybe skardyns will be better in raid when more stuff is going on
Sure
i feel like transmitter would be less aids on sin that most other specs
Makes sense
Yeah but brain no thinky
Me press button and do nothing and damage pops out
get filtered xd
i say this as im trying to learn sub atm
and the intricate piano you need to play every 1.5 mins
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Sub mentioned 
outlaw and assassination are fun but idk if i'd ever play sub
no i only play assa
Okay buddy you wont be saying that when im bottoming for you
although mind you i havent played outlaw since shadowlands LOL
i mostly only play sin
so it couldve changed a tonn
The double ping is vile 
It has
triple @spice spire
Crazy
sec tec era sub is fun though
I need that skipnoz clip
Hi, how much % Haste should I have as an Assa?
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
What eleem said
however much the sims say would be best
Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.
- No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
- 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
- You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
Because fotm rollers haven’t played sin since 8.3
And 8.3 it was a haste stacking class
fair
ff player detected
Even tho rogue in 9.1 was insane, all 3 specs were so no real reason to ask specific about sin
nah i dont play it, but i am awar
just as long as there isn't some nefarious guide or something out there telling them to check their haste %
can we split rogue into rogue and pirate
and then give outlaw a second spec that's some kinda cringe aug competitor
bar whench spec
i'd play it
throw out the rums and stuff like the freehold boss
Because people like agency in their damage and something they are able to target and control is stats. And if it’s a value they can have choice in, they want it to mean something and make a difference. It’s an intuitive thing to think that if you can pick your gearing and stats, that it matters (and it might for other specs).
it makes sense to me why new folks would ask
It just turns out stats don’t matter for us

you all make good points, however my haste is too low to read them all
I’ve yapped myself into clapbacks

is there anything i should be looking out for while leveling other than mining / herbalism
walls
I’d recommend leveling up your delves to 3 initially
Little purple dirts on the ground
Delves are really good process to gesr
Since this is your first toon you have to unlock each manually
i dont pug much, but you gotta compete with 630+ peeps now
i have 14s in time and i don't get accepted to 13s that i need
i am 632
ain't that bad
Transmitter in M+ is cancer, only reason i would go transmitter over skardyns is for Sub spec as it has 1.5 min cds and also sub just mash single target rotation in aoe no need to keep track on 4-5 dots etc ez.
yes
You're the only one
thank you
they've probs been burnt by bad fotm's and dont rate rogue
👍
let me do some delves
oh shit, im getting meleed by 2 mil what great fun
Skill issue
ill fuck you
In November? Miss me w that
?!? for my bday
Also it’s cute that you think you’re the top here
its a get out of jail card, my birthday man
For you
what a hell is fotm
It ain’t for me king
what's the us terminology? hall pass?
Flavor of the month
yeah, the people who see sin as a good dps so swap to it, then only learn half the damage rotation and none of the defensive / utility

??
@oak tangle what'd you do to the homie
i gave him a moment of despair
can anyone explain this weeks affix for me, ive never done that one
elusiveness gives 20% dr with evasion and the bait+switch does 20% magic dr with evasion. do those stack?
GM
is evasion now a giga magic dr defensive?
I want to say no.
That I looked at Kyveza logs and mitigation was the exact same from deathstalker user and fatebound
But bug fixes happen all the time and for all I know that’s changed 
is kyveza dmg magic or physical?
Magic
I don’t know why it wouldn’t stack
idk if i even want sacbrood
It should
Think we are being gaslit by the quaker
I mean it should
But I remember specifically checking logs for it
And the mitigation % was the same
Elusiveness is all dmg talent bait and switch is magic
Even then 
im abt to take this helm over myth track sac LOL
yes wtf

esp that helm
hey i got hero contract
its off bloodbound
Unless like you ONLY m+
Even then
and even then sac
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Yeah thats what im saying, i think its simming better bc i have like 3% haste
it wants me to have haste
Yeah
Why do you not like sac to begin with
yo when we have 1 shiv do we use shiv for dps outside of dm and kingsbane ?
Yes off cd
no you don’t need to shiv
Practically nothing
it is worthless in aoe
press it on ur kingsbane target for spatter damage
shiv doesn’t increase spatter damage
it increases kingsbane damage
wha?
spatter deals a portion of kingsbane damage
il jus thit it on cooldown
for whatever its worth
casue in single target i need everything in my mytic plus build
correct and shiv doesn’t increase spatter
spatter is a residual
That’s it
yea
i aint discussing the semantics
Shiv increases damage taken by your target. Not damage done to your target so shiv doesn’t affect spatter
And the semantics means you’re wrong. But it blew my mind too
where does it say that?
it’s not semantics you are just wrong
My mouth is dry as hell man this took 4 hours I am too ADHD for this youtube thing
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done TO the target
your quote: "Not damage done to your target so shiv doesn't affect spatter"
i’m not engaging, you’re wrong and the math proves it. caustic is a residual effect
watch the video or not
It will increase your prio damage but you will not increase your spatter damage
Its ONLY to the target affected
which is why shiv is utterly useless in aoe
which is rarely played in aoe
Well shiv does increase bleed dmg done
LMFAO
The hell is your problem
Yeah how dare you expose them for being stupid
Please give me the tip
It wasn't even a tip

Just a question

easiest right click leave group
Weird one
Then their premade friend said this
Very interesting duo
Bad day to log in, maybe I go back to Runescape
Two rings is strange I’ll admit
Why would it be strange?
Cause a crafted piece would be better since they give agi
If rings are the only upgrades you can get with sparks
Tru lol
Why would it be weird
ok i watched the video. it makes sense that shiv by itself does not increase your aoe damage, but a side note is that most of us have shiv + tea macro'ed together so the tea portion would increase your aoe by using it with your shiv
I simply just dont craft anythiny
Huhhhhh
I mean yeah if it’s your last thing you can upgrade it ain’t strange
How do we play Subterfuge? Is that not redundant with Imp Garrote?
I didn’t think ppl are on their last upgrades already tho
Yeah I mean sure I can craft a belt instead and take a 0.5% dps loss
instead of a 0.4% dps gain from the ring
:-)
Idk what’s a normal amount of crafts currently
I mean, the rings are 619 rings
Not 636
Oh
All of my gear is 619 or more*
Then who cares
people getting lucky with very rares in raid/vault are on their last uppies now since they save loads of crests
I thought you meant 636 rings
Two 636 is what I meant by weird currently
yeah idk sac wasnt simming good for me in m+/raid so i took helm
i never get loot from raid anyways
L
how does subterfuge increase our dps? doesnt MA last 12 seconds? does it somehow increase it by 6 more?
hero crystal diffs it
MA is 12s with Subterfuge
And only with it
^
fuck my sac Cev
Yeah tooltips often change dynamically depending on your other talent choices
very cool ty
Sometimes they're a bit wonky, don't get too hung up on them


so... hitting shiv on cd outside of kb isnt rly worth at all in aoe. it just risks that i may not have shiv up for when kb is up
right?
Yes
if you send it right when it come off cd it should be up relatively soonish when your next kb is up
Small gain but not worth
but yes its a minor gain
yeah but bothering to do that when it only affects ST when u dont have cd's rolling anyway
very little
ok cool thx
what does it do in aoe?
never EVER give me a tip again, thanks.
!tea
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
This one only
all your hero or myth gear is maxed already? thats only reason i would say it's weird if it's not maxed, because the gilded would be better maxing a myth tier slot
It isn't 636/gilded...
It's 619...
arterial isnt really run in M+ though, unless youre talking about raid light cleave
oh 619 doesnt matter at all
Without AP, nothing
Don't press it in AoE
Only with KB
rank 2 authority of the depths on 636 weapon, now THAT is minus points
hahaha
You right I forgot we don’t run it anymore
entering a new pack with darkest night buff active is it ok to enter in stealth mark target with ambush then consume darkest night buff with 7 cp envenom after? ty
no sockets on your trailspinner neck!! reeeee
too expensive
no sockets in your mouth for my nuts either
Only consumption

Oh no, not the nuts!
!up
your rng is kinda nutty
Casual btw
i take shoulders i desperately need stamina
im gonna casually kiss you on the mouth


i got knife in my 3rd delve vault slot on rogue
despite it said i had 3 t8 sltos
well 584
so kinda bugged out
myth spyglass in m+ though
is there a macro that sets this spell automaticaly on tnak ?
!tott
Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
my dh got queen ring before my rogue

Rough choice
Ring was huge
ring all day
how does this works
you install the weakaura and press the macro
download the weakaura and then copy the macro and use it for your tricks button
ngl im surprised spyglass is still my highest passive trinket
and it'll automatically go on your tank
yeah? well im surprised we still haven't kissed yet
how about them apples
pfttt
thank you bro
in ST robot likes spyglass for me too
but i got a myth crystal so it's slightly better
its my 2nd highest stacked stat and still
crit gud 
nah crystal on my sim is 3k worse
at same ilvl
very it seems
What kind of attacks does feint help with, is it just fire circles or if the boss pulses damage does that also reduce dmg taken


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