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What’s the order from hardest to easiest in your opinion
and the buf
we killed court yesterday
Ovinax < Kyveza < Silken court
So ovinax definitely easiest
Fair
Fuck this I’m listening to music
like that
I can’t bear this snoring
how different is outlaw and assassination?
mechanically i mean
Very
you can half ass that fight
Im about to level an alt rogue and I am finding it very difficult to pick between the two
funny, for us kyveza was WAY more easy
queen is alot more personal play
meanwhile 2 raid days on court and we barely get into first intermission
Court
Kyveza before nerfs 
i dont like that fight tbh
smash
what makes silken alot easier than queen
Hyper smash
The thing is
Queen will prolly get easioer with the ramping buff
court you prolly sitll have to play the whole 8 minutes
pretty sure you can skip a dmg amp
idk on first kills?
we allready have to do a dmg stop during the first intermission halfway trought lol
we didnt do dmg stop
court?
because why
oof, a bit
And I sssume ovi is just more eggs
half the raid gets red orbs on pull, the other half blue
if you touch somebody with the other color, you both die
ovi'nax you also need 2 people to break an egg
more debuffs
like you gotta overlap circles
2x stack em to pop egg
Bro how strong are those eggs
I mean
since intermissions are a joke
I’m only 3 bosses deep
And all 3 barely changed
I noticed the sikran one the most tbf
I think everyones 2 min cds were ready
ye, the bigger fight changes in mythic are often only in the 2nd half
for first DMG amp on big spider
but then are often quiet big
We didnt have many 3 mins i think
The fight changing
most were 2 mins
its pretty much just Kyveza and last two
besides that like Ovinax you just get more debuffs that needs stacking
Eh broods pretty diff, now its probably fine, but triple worms being empowered was quite a check before you could just skip em
well yes it makes the boss harder
Yeah fair enough
Kyveza is a Dodge and play precise fight
For vault is the max tokens 6
and also survive
@warm vortex like, the tl:dr for court mythic is
on pull both bosses have a circle, 1 red 1 blue, both need 10players in
when you soaked them.you have a red/blue orb for the rest of the fight, if you touch a player with the other orb you both instantly die
everytime a raid dmg mechanic happens, you drop a orb on the spot you where standing that needs to be soaked by people with the other orb color
aka you have 2 groups that have to dance around eachother all the time and soak orbs the other drop without touching eachother
the Charge needs 3 webs to be stopped
So is there not a point filling up my delve slots
Kyveza is a watch your melee stack die to regicide for 40 pulls
As they learn the 2 step
Oh lawd
Colour fight
Imagine being colourblind
5 debuffs to be dispelled onto the boss
with a pretty tight timer
Ye
fuck you 
im colour blind
we have a color blind feral
We had 13 melee on kyveza this week kill me
it doesent change anything
red-green weak yeha
ok you trolling
cuz you move in a group
nothing for that fight
with 13 meles right
Nearly as bad as 5 melee ara
like
Rdps are hard to find
cmon
These days
How can you be colour blind when you are in it
Why I’m trying to pick up BM

sorry i thought i was in the guild " "
Tbh I dread court
news to me
Sounds like stupid people will wipe
If they ever nerf Silken Court again, its prolly 1 less dispell and 1 less web
How do you tell the difference between guildless stealthi and colour stealthi
that would prolly make the fight very trivial
1 less web would be a mega nerf
Btw how are we all?
Ik I asked already to some people but I wanna see
the funny part is that shadowstep is infinite power on court
1key and you kill yourself and 1 guy of the Other team you dont like
LOL
For some of you isn’t it like
Super early
11:10 am
Sludgefist all over again
nvm
wait did he get kicked?
Its 4:10 am
When wipe was called, i stepped our tank everytime
just out of spite
Wait what happened who got kicked
Based
I work night shifts
wdym my name is just Stealthi?
me with our dk
all i see is
Literally
Because what leisure centre is open at midnight
Couldn't tell, you were too Stealthi for me
Hehe
Stealthi
<>
But yea it’s 10am for me
Been awake since 4am
No idea why
I could have gotten up at 5
But I didn’t
imagine being 1 hour behind
Wait

True
false cutie
Based
dont worry, Americans dont exist
itrs 11:13
Murica
It is indeed 11:13
You're German, doesn't count
Fucking 15 letters
plitsch platsch, deine meinung ist quatsch
Goddamn it stop yelling
WHAT
Watch out or he will put on his slee... Nevermind.
Why are german words so angry man
CANT HESR YOU ROYAL
they are not really
people on the internet love taking 40000letter words that technically exist but are not something anyone actually uses and thinks thats german
If germans dont count, you can date me and andy cant say anything against it 
because it doesnt count right!?
Aight fair they just look long
And word count doesn’t matter tbh it’s how you use it




dragonflight rogue rework
DF
Fair
low CD exsang was so nice
Is that when they added splatter too
was it 30sec ?
lmao fuck no
Fine by me. (And her, probably)
that made exsamg even worse
And I’m assuming splatter is what put rogue on the high ranks
Or was it IC

but dmg :)
What if they added bears to Assa tyran
Spatter
Basically why Sub is working now too
thats also how Spriest work
True
Sweeping strikes now hits up to 8 targets
At the end of the day, psychic link is the problem again
Time for another patch note
"works"
stuff would be adjusted
i cropped off
But god full aoe demolish m
Thats 2011 to 2024 tho man
Ye but Bladeflurry had the same
Link has been adjusted every patch for 2 years kekw
in Slands
stealthi, let us shit on outlaw ffs
Blade flurry or blade fury or blade furry
vs 22 psyhic link buffs/nerfs
Or a fury furry using blade flurry
Pyschic link is jsut a rip off blade flurry
and then they need to spend more time fixing it
Dont let psychic link distract you from Acrobatic Strikes being removed
this is some will will smith smith will smith type BS
Psychi is just a better version of BF
:^)
Spatter is the better version of BF
Will will smith smith will smith
Yes will smith will smith will smith
you think so?
spatter is so nice im always scared that blizz nerfs it
oh, it will get a nerf lol
deserved even
you should be scared if they nerf the ST dmg aswell
that would be very scary indeed
but spatter+CT are just both kinda to high rn
as long as its still better than outlaw in keys im fine
I’d just swap to outlaw next season and lear that
Hahaha
The two sides of man
XD
AS removal wouldn't be such a problem if they fixed the hotboxes as they said
But some are ridiculous
Like the first cot boss
And those two dudes before mists first boss
Plus one handed weapon mogs
its easy but that makes it boring for me XD ( and i dont like one handed weapon mogs XD)
Haha look, I started the acrobatic strikes conversation
im a dagger enjoyer
Fair
I wanted to play outlaw just to mog swords, but that spec is wack
Why did they remove it
I miss it so much
Tbh, idk how luck variable outlaw is
same
Its not very rng anymore
IDC if it sucked to fight in pvp
Not compared to what it has been
Yeah can't play it for real, too much mastery
its "you notice bad rng streaks, but less then most people think it actually matters overall"
forever garbage
I like outlaw D:
Fair
but DF outlaw is 🤢
outlaw is just off
Tbf
Any time I have 8 BTEs in a row I'm excited
Might be BM main next season
Damn
The FUCKING GUN COCK SOUND OMLLL
So good
I like that assa is super chill
One of the best sounds in the game
i play with game sounds muted
BANG chckchk BANG chkchk BANG
You didn't play back in the day with the old gun sounds
No
Ah i could never play without sound
What’s back in the day
You're so real
Like what time
BTE sound from BFA
Game sounds good.
Ah fair
? Why not both ? Hello?
Was gonna say
you make your own Sounds
drowns out music
i only have WA sounds enabled
Music off .
Voices off.
Sound effects maxed.
Wicked gaming
Tbf i didn’t play anything before BFA and I was like
That’s good tho you can hear your actions and it plays with the music and creates a beautiful soundscape
Need?
So yea
For fun
not being able to fully dive into my music
It feels good nothing here about need
I was super socially anxious
is not fun
being 12 in bfa
made me feel like im from the jurrasic period
wonder what Lis feels like

My gut
I made an undead char and the npc walked up to me and said like “oh your x? We had something to do” or whatever he says
I thought that was a real player
I was so overloaded with what to do I closed the game and deleted the character and didn’t play the game for like a week
My autism and social anxiety was so fucking bad
same-ish i think
almost 13
how old are you again stealthi
26
ye, same age then
You are like 8 years older than me
playing this game since TBC, im so washed 
You're cute regardless
Old
Ohi ill
Call me some years
Seriously though, obviously it’s all preference. Just saying SecTec’s sound effects is thumpy and awesome. I quite enjoy hearing then game sound interlacing with my other music. Especially things like boss voice lines.
my music is so loud
Hi ven
This Monday 2 hour lecture drags so much
i can barely hear discord
I’m gonna die
12 when cataclysm came out…..
I’ve been assaulted again
When did cata come out
im from 98
2010
was cata
2010?
yes

I was 4/5
Same
I’m 05
I spoke to my little brother recently and told him I played wow and he said "ah yeah that game for old people". So I'm surprised people that young play this game
Hahaha
I remember when cata came out right with winter finals in college.
It’s an old person game
Btw ny
is 22?
And I remember finishing exams and going back to my dorm to level
mythic raid guilds are mostly people in their late 20-early 30 yeha
It isn’t the optimal one. It’s fun, but not optimal
think avg age in my guild is 25
Like I’d suggest trying it but not if you wanna push
I have a guild I joined on an alt and I talk to them every know and then
I make them feel so old
When I remind them I’m form 05
Some of them are in their 50s
I have a guy that started playing wow before a previous raider was born
we climbing in parses
The games older than me so that’s possible in my guild
8:42 pm monday
Embarrassing
evening for him
mate, going by what you said there, my rogue is roughly the same age as you 
(Ik it’s a repost but it’s funny)
Broooo
:(
My guild has been around since vanilla and many were adults back then. I was the second youngest in my guild when I joined them in BC. Now I’m in the old guard and the young ones are all clearing CE while I’m in town
So ahead in the future
Also wait we have same prog :0
im just raiding with a friends casual guild
think the pug raid im normally a part of
But we had enough ppl for mythic so we went
is at silken court
Also
Day going well
Remember what next season dungeon pool is
Day going bad
ToP with tyrannical and fortif 
motherlode
i quite liked ToP

u are still very young and at your prime
shhhh
mm
i think the new operation dungeon gonna be a banger
meadery has potential to be really really good
or could be insanely shit
dunno which
rookery is nice priory is nice
darkflame one of the worst dungeons in history
yup
but yea
motherlode is fine
mechagon workshop kinda pog
hey
during my kingsbane, if I am talented 2 points into subterfuge, should I vanish as soon as I pop my kingsbane so I get the bonus crit for all the duration ?
Is there a way to see what abilities are AOE in wowhead? is it the "Radius" indicator in the spell details? Asking because of NW m+. F.E. heaving retch of the first boss is AOE, but i'm pretty sure that spew disease from rotspew is not AOE so feint only lowers damage by 20% (if you have elusiveness over cheat death)
Meadery will be shit 100% with the perma slows
not as soon as you pop kingsbane because its 14s and 12s but yeah
heaving retch is not aoe
its targeted
Priory consecrations
just like spew disease
I hope they aren’t like tirna piddles
or for prio
Yeah but it does damage in a cone, that doesn't count as AOE?
because I have seen ppl casting vanish just before shiv, I guess that is with out subterfuge talent
it can be bad to lose vanish for aoe
Im not familiar with abreviations let me check 😆
with chainpulls and such
kingsbane with master assassin
(ur correct)
just
dont do it thoughtlessly
cause you will want to cry when your tank chains some shitter at 5% health
and you cant vanish for ic
alright yes got it, ty, there is a bug with master assassin that doesn't refresh with vanish if we already have the buff from stealth right ?
ye I noticed, so basically you always want it to run out before vanishing
I need to add this to my WA to avoid mistake
tyvm
The real question is..
When will M+ key system become like Delve system when you can just go all out and enjoy instead of losing your key to a first silly pull by a random tank and spending hours geting it back to the level it was.
M+ real challenge rn is queueing instead of skill.
Regardless of whether heaving retch is AOE: is there a way to see on wowhead what abilities are AOE? Is there a clear effect indicator?
So I know for sure when feint will give me the 40% versus just 20%
If it damages in an area of effect
go do delves then
Yeah I mean someone just said "heaving retch is not aoe cs its targeted", but the ability is clearly a cone: so AOE?
hard agree, keys shouldnt be a thing, just let us do whatever.
??????????????
What? You like being limited to the key you have?
Can you explain why it would be a problem not having keys?
No
yes part of the system is the key, and not being able to spam the dungeon until you get it right
there should be risk assessment involved
you already can spam keys, its just cumbersome to do
I honestly think keys shouldn't be a thing in current game
if they removed keys it would be a completely different game
no it wouldnt lmao
oh yes it would
Just go do the dungeon you want
it wouldnt bu ok
they very quickly get to the max key level possible just cause infinite attempts
m+ would be over in 2 weeks
Amen
for some
so should my overall be close to the sim value?
and i can guarantee almost nobody would like doing raid-style progging for dungeons
Yes
and the sense of accomplishment would be way lower
New to rogue in tww
What's the best to craft? is two gear pieces with crit embellish bis, im gearing my alt so im wondering if it's worth to go dagger + gearpiece just to get a decent MH
I don't think there are many players out there feeling accomplishment from doing high end keys
I mostly feel relieved when I time mine so I didn't waste my time
then youre not the target audience idk
we're not rly doing m+ high keys for rewards, we're doing it to see how high can we go, and the more attempts we get the more fun it is, right now its just waiting for regroup. once u do a 13 u should be able to queue a 14 of that particular dungeon and just spam it til u manage to do it. I feel like that should be and hopefully one day will be the system behind M+.
High end keys are not targeting a whole lot of audience
sure
i can guarantee you it will get boring if you have infinite attempts
but if youre doing like vault shit or whatever
key system doesnt really affect u anyway
so
its literally only there for the people who it benefits
What do you mean
no
just spam queue 14 until you rng a good group and you get carried
and if u deplete theres 50 other groups to join in pugs
key shit is there for like premades who push
Oh, there are dungeons I refuse to do because I just don't like them
i think it would become more challenging thats all. people that have 3-4 hrs a day for m+ can't fit in many attempts, and im talking skilled people that could get the ladder higher than it is if they had the time most kids do to just sit and wait out the inbetween keys all day long for a season.
Hardest part is getting into a key
So far my fav dungeons this season are siege and dawn and mists
Me with CoT and SV tbf
and i play 3-4 days a week at most and not very many hours daily(yesterday was the only full day of pushing weve done this whole season)
does rashanan have a set order on mythic, outside of whether he goes left / right?
and im pushing as high as possible
tbh, isnt that how 99% of "m+ players" seem to tackle the mode anyway 
if youre skilled then youd get to play with skilled players by befriending them
networking is 90% of m+
!tea
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
i also enjoy pushing the keys when we deplete, more reps, trying shit out, being more efficient, managing cooldowns better
but i guess im a freak
Just an FYI that this was incorrect. Someone on the sub channel helped me out and found a tool to use:
oh cool
Not Even Close is a tool for World of Warcraft that will determine if you will live or die to enemy abilities in Mythic+ dungeon keys, given your stats and defensives
Here is the tool
I believe some spells are targeted and aoe
Like if you are targeted by it feint may not work
I think this indicator on wowhead is what tells you if something is AOE:
That's the only thing I can find
this is heaving retch btw
I hate depleting keys hahahaha
Huh?
Based, you a real one Paulo
Bingo
Yahtzee
Well that's the problem pugging
Yea big up pablo
for venenom do you guys just spam cast it (if every DoT is up) ?
like i ahve 70% envenom time
i can throw it again do i do it>?
On point Lol
In single target you can get a little bit of min max out of waiting for more uptime
But in aoe where you’re drowned in energy you just full slam it
You have friends?
It’s true, you kiss the homies but you don’t kiss your friends
Yes
Why are you
Jealous
check mate
I heard you can buy some
or as shmeeps would say
I drank a large Diet Pepsi at like 10pm
check homie
I’ve been banning those in my stream chat, you’re telling me they were real offers?
Duck*
Yea! Totally
but on this case wouldn it be just spam crimson?
Haven’t watched a stream of yours in a while
What? No
Haven’t watched your streams mainly because
You spam envenom for caustic spatter damage
You start streaming at 2am for me
Just think of CT as AOE rupture without the percs
I wake up with an email saying “Whispyr is now streaming*
And it says it’s like
2:30
Okay well I quit my day job and Wednesday is my last day so that changes hopefully maybe idk probably
Fair fair
Does that mean daily uploads and mushroom content?
I remember you mentioning this
anyone know if shiv supercharging thing works with combo points 'counting as charged' on weakaura? cause mine isnt for some reason
Idk bout DAILY, but yes mushroom content
It just empowers your next finishers
I remember you signed up to group that had an Assa in it. The leader recognised you, kicked the rogue then invited you
It doesn’t actually empower any combo points
oh ok
@thorn fjord stole a group from me once
Most of the time they double rogue it up
Tbh wish I could do dungeons w you someday but region differences
whispyr neet arc...
I do that on beta
Oh fair fair
My boss whips me

NOOOO
WHISPYR GET WHIPPED AGAIN IF HE NO FINISH!!
I wouldn’t invite Whispyr, a known m+ hater and sandbagger, to my TITLE KEY SMH MY HEAD
Real
That’s why all the m+ gamers do the opposite of my m+ builds
I argue against subterfuge, they play it
Probably fabricating details to make it look likes he’s doing more damage than me too
Subterfuge buffed, I update guide to take it, they don’t play it
Fucking morons
It’s just “do whatever whispyr does but opposite”

Mostly nitrogen actually
Ok
I think he a helium enjoyer
No nitrogen for me
That’s gonna be difficult
Bro
NOOOO YOU EDITED

FUCK
Hahahaha
I WASNT QUICK ENOUGH
I WAS GONNA SAY 4 INCHES FLACCID
Boomer hands
Beta cuck Raider hands vs sigma Chad mplusser hands
Would have been the fasted edit
I think moroes would’ve actually caught that
Or maybe it needs 4 letters… I don’t remember the details
Should I get a little snacky
What
So
And missing the L
Oh wait
Oh yeah that was a tough look
You can bypass the filter
Well
Imma delete that
!WA
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
You definitely can
Do moreos job for him
Like it’s possible to
Just say cword cword
Rotten pike of bones can’t do it himself
should i take a shower after work or not
mods
Yes
We*
Yea all
So never
Every other
Tbf I do have a lot of hair I wanna care
When goblin
And there’s only one day where I can be at home all day
Throw an f in front of rotting and call me home bud
With consent
We can paint them green and red and reenact duel of the fates
I haven’t done a key in nearly 3 weeks
U wanna be Jedi or sith?
Both
Fair
That’s just Xmas colors
I don’t blame you
Beat me up till I’m mace windu
Imagine obi vs anakin but with all I want for Christmas
Whispyr
What do you think of this raid tier
It’s aight I guess
The fights aren’t particularly memorable outside of ovi’nax I think
kyveza goes hard no?
Yeah I guess, but it’s boring
Nighthold
Fair
Is there something like a react channel where I can post videos of me and people might take a look at what I do wrong? 😄 I know it exists for pvp but what about m+?
I’m so sad I missed legion
Some people make threads to look at logs
Can you show your damage breakdown
If it was a key
Maybe smth there is evident
Btw Whispyr
Did i tell you the thing earlier
First experience of playing wow
Where?
Just here
Idk how to make one on mobile
But yea show your dps breakdown if you got one :0
I know how it should look like by now and get good feedback on it. Don't have anything atm, just taking a break and was thinking about it.
ofc i shower every day
surely
:D!
Yeah CT uptime seems to be one thing I forget. I think especially now in higher keys where stuff lives longer. Higher for me is 10/11. But also simply knowledge like: when is it worth to reapply single dots like ripture etc. vs. just driving fok fok splatter rota. Studf like that 😄
Fair
Like I did a DB other day
Thought I did super well
Log said I was shit
Turns out it was my CT uptime
is there any way i can see what buttons my sim presses in order?
I need my sim to teach me the rotation
for singletarget
No idea where but I think at the end in the result is shows it but it advises against using its rota
Well, it beats me by 100ish k when im doing the proper rotation, pooling included, shiv+tea at the second half of kingsbane and all that good stuff
So idk
thats why you are not in the top10 r.io score list, wasting time on showers
Sim doesn’t do the rota right
well have you simmed same conditions as your testing?
have you tested 5000 times and done an average?
yessir
did you have full uptime
I felt like my ST was higher than my sim
I've lost to the sim 20 3 minute fights in a row
exact same buffs etc
yet on my dk i beat it by 100k or match it consistantly
Tried pressing your buttons harder
The depth your dagger goes when you press envenom is equal to how hard you press your key
Trust
How many yds is "nearby enemies" ?
8yards
Hits every entity in wow
And it shows on your dps log
From panda land to northrend
From eastern kingdoms to kalmidor
What talent would you guys want back for Assa
Flag my beloved
on WoW head it says to use envenom directly after kb.
But in reality we should use envenom just before in order to have envenom's buff running and then we regenerate combo points during kb right ?
That’s not the opener
Look up a bit
I’m pretty sure there’s an opener that has an enven before
You would never ever open a pull with deathmark
burst of Speed
the legion "vial actually does something" node
Gm sinners
Sup sub
i was promised vial effects based on pickpocketing
Death from above?
and those never came
I mean I use it sometimes
so its actually useful for rot
whats this web? first time seeing it
Prolly not needed tho
Make crimson vial give me idk
Energy back? Small secondary stat? Damage effect?
nah
Give some allies healinng
Just make it a heath pot
Someone linked it to me in the sub discord. But looking at this tool it does say that evasion gives 40% DR with elusiveness, but isn't it 36%? 0.2 x 0.8 + 0.2 x 1? Because it's 20% DR on top of the 80% damage you take after bait and switch? Or is it really additive? So just simply 0.2 + 0.2?
So not 100% sure how accurate it is, but it's still pretty useful.
Its that in tandem with elusiveness
make it for 10 seconds or something
i see a lot of auras tracking 2 envenom stacks what`s it?
read your talents :3
40th grim batol run here we go 
That's actually true, I hated that dungeon at the start
I like it after the nerfs
How do you guys keep having fun in Season1 ?
Playing like 3 classes
I only like doing raid
Mythic + delves i barely do already
If I played one I would have stopped long ago
How do you have fun in any season only raiding?
Even tho the dungeon pool isn't the best, it's still a fun season tbh
If i had to remember 3 classes id lose it
Tyrannical is killing m+ for me
Its just no fun
Having 15affixes rotating THAT was fun
Luckily they merged affixes this season, so it should be less of a problem than in the past
I mean 10+ those affixes are just there. Bosses were always a weak point in m+ I would say
Next season
Doing 2 mechanics 3 minutes long is boring ye
The only Affix I hate is challengers peril
I don’t think the change did much
I think it just makes deathless keys easier
I am not looking forward to theater of pain
the game had no m+ for the majority of its runtime 
Yeah but I've usually done a combination of raiding, pvp, world stuff, etc
they hate us
Motherlode I barely played but I remember people liking it
Wait
Just raid logging is going to burn you out very fast
Were t you blue
That dungeon blows
YOU blow
I don't know a single person who liked ml
Fire blast reset bracers 
i disliked motherlode cause i was new and didn't know how to do mechanics
Great
They're most likely going to add the other half to the pool
Thank god
i was gold for the aesthetic but people were getting the wrong idea




