assassination

[novel star]

the capstone reapplies it

with 7cp envenoms

when you consume all the stacks

[iron carbon]

Read it

[novel star]

like

not trying to be rude but

[subtle tundra]

i usually keep them under the foreskin

[novel star]

some questions can be answered faster by reading on ur own

or just play fatebound

it’s totally viable

and totally passive

[balmy condor]

The sock of man

[cobalt relic]

https://tenor.com/view/coin-toss-coin-toss-gif-5017733

[subtle tundra]

im gonna be rude, but coming into a class discord and asking how the basic things WORK, cause you dont want to read is even ruder than me

[harsh violet]

that's my outlaw way 😄 to me, sorry it's just like read the instructions or have somebody who'se worked the job years to explain there way feels easier

[iron carbon]

So real

[balmy condor]

I write guides no one reads

[ornate wagon]

Guys for m+ in big packs is the play to keep up 5 ruptures-1 garrote-2+ tempest? Ty 👍👍👍

[iron carbon]

Read guides so

As I linked few mins ago

[subtle tundra]

you dont press garrote outside of opener and vanish

[novel star]

I mean asking people in here for basic-ish stuff if it’s actually confusing is fine

but other steps should be taken first prolly

not only for the sake of the ppl in here cause realistically who cares

but like

[royal lantern]

i do 😦

[novel star]

it’s literally just more optimal learning

to read on your own

[balmy condor]

You don’t need to

[novel star]

and get a balanced understanding first

[iron carbon]

[balmy condor]

Like there’s two types of discord users

[iron carbon]

I check it, I promise

[balmy condor]

The ones that read the guides and don’t need to read the guides

And the ones that don’t read the guides and definitely need to read the guides

[subtle tundra]

whens the next yt video

just wanna hear your voice bby

[balmy condor]

Hopefully weekend maybe probably idk

Sick + quitting irl job + new job

Is kinda wicked

[subtle tundra]

ive been working for 1.5months and i hate working! ! ! !

just let me fucking DIE

[royal lantern]

the hate will always stay and probably get worse :3

https://tenor.com/view/cat-frantic-the-voices-gif-4777666775328982944

[novel star]

this is me

[subtle tundra]

tbh i want a relevant job so my motivation is not high rn

[novel star]

i legit open the wowhead guide like daily

for something different every time

[umbral sierra]

whats with kids going offline when u have 1 wipe in a +10

2nd boss in mists was first wipe 0 deaths to that point

[novel star]

Idk i did an 11 arakara earlier and some guy told the tank to kill himself and then told me to kill myself

so i gave him a little 30 second therapy sesh

and we moved on

2 chested btw

[balmy condor]

Least toxic m+ pug

[subtle tundra]

id just say ill do it after the key

[umbral sierra]

im fine with that, i just link them my discord and we have a mw2 roast session

[novel star]

@balmy condor

[umbral sierra]

2 chested?

[novel star]

+2

[umbral sierra]

ah

[novel star]

legion vocabulary i think

[subtle tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/lose-where-greek-turk-greek-vs-turk-chad-mans-gif-22066668

[novel star]

never played it but picked it up anyway

[umbral sierra]

i didnt play legion

[balmy condor]

Getting dumped and then immediately going into a +11 ara is the most deranged behavior I have ever heard of in my life

“Damn… she left me…. I’m crushed…. Well, better solo q and instalock draven mid”

[ornate wagon]

Thanks mate appreciate so in vanish we don’t ambush-garr-garr-rupture-rupture nah?

[novel star]

LOLLLL

literally

i swear to fucking god m+ players and league players have the same disease

it’s insane

mutants

[bronze pike]

Average m+ player

[subtle tundra]

only reason youd ambush is to change the mark target

[bronze pike]

Got dump and instantly goes on a key

Instead of ya know

Eating icecream

And crying

[novel star]

Lowkey i might just play fatebound for every boss

it’s so

[hollow talon]

Val players named I miss her most cringe imo

[novel star]

fine

and dsm is so aids

[bronze pike]

[arctic crest]

Hello there fellow stabbers, does any one has an idea where such differences in damage could come from? Fight Broodbound Horror, same Build/Ilvl/fight length. Right one no add dmg. I'm analyzing my logs and this only appears on broodbound horror (mythic)

[umbral sierra]

felt. transitions suck ass with dsm

[ornate wagon]

So what would rotation be in vanish then please mate? Ty 👍

[umbral sierra]

gotta hold darkest night for 15 seconds to make sure u dont lose it on queen going into p2

[novel star]

Cancer

big flippa

gaps

[subtle tundra]

for aoe? depends on the situation there is nothing set in stone
are you vanishing for bleeds? do some garrotes and ruptures
are there casters? consider more garrotes for silences
i vanish for MA in kingsbane usually so not using it for bleeds except some garrotes towards the end

[hollow talon]

Sucks on court too

[novel star]

yea

like

[hollow talon]

We need a better hero talent

[novel star]

i’m looking at these bosses rn

the first 5 basically don’t matter

[umbral sierra]

personally i only vanish in m+ on bosses for ma if its on trash its for the aoe silence

[novel star]

kyveza is raw st so fb better

and then it’s just cancer and cancer

on the last 2

for ds

[subtle tundra]

well youre losing dps

if you only vanish for silence and on bosses

youre losing vanish casts

[umbral sierra]

its usually on cd

bc i have to vanish when the tank chain pulls 2 packs while we have 1 guy left at 20% hp and i dont get to re

[novel star]

madge?

[umbral sierra]

wtb key deletion

or if u time a key and dont like the new one u get to reroll

[arctic crest]

!log https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/KvD4g2JGaHZtQypA/LKVC3g7D8fcp6waG#fight=19,0&type=damage-done&source=22,12&start=2685134,1129841&end=2842568,1287275&ability=-32645

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[novel star]

log command no exist here

do it the old fashioned way

(ping quake)

@spice spire

wake up bitch

[rotund oak]

sin with sub gear man

the new tech

forget to swap gear==>gap 2.8+ r.io wannabes

im like from my laptop at work

[novel star]

old dal

i think that’s old

idk

[rotund oak]

its good memories man

[novel star]

dal tho

[rotund oak]

[novel star]

hype

[rotund oak]

idk,im remaining unconvinced for m+ yet again

ppl just que and gain r.io,it means nothing

a bad player is always a bad player

[novel star]

only way to have fun is playing with friends

or guildies

otherwise just do vault keys and raid log

[arctic crest]

ty!

[novel star]

realistically quake sleepin as fuck rn but he like always does reviews if u catch him while he’s awake

homie deluxe

[balmy condor]

Zold diff ain’t it

That guy killed in 2:40 and you killed in 4

Seems pretty cut and dry

[novel star]

whispyr reviews sometimes too but he’s a pussy and a hater

[arctic crest]

ty keep that in mind, it's a rather specific topic so no hurry required

[balmy condor]

Execute damage good, execute damage go up

He had egg with mastery buff

You have not that

Ggwp go next

[arctic crest]

ty i was really irritated by the difference in envenom damage, and i filtered for same fight length, still he did double the dmg on envenom

as in zoomed the fight in

[balmy condor]

Well yeah, he’s in execute lmao

[arctic crest]

yeah i see that now 😄

ty!

[subtle tundra]

Sin and sub gear are the same in m+...

[rotund oak]

mast/vers isnt the same with mast/crit

am i missing something here

sin doesnt care but u kinda like some crit

[subtle tundra]

Pissers sub want vers?

[rotund oak]

sub doesnt

[subtle tundra]

Woah...

Knoledge

[rotund oak]

whats the tech

spit it all out

[subtle tundra]

What tech

The tech is to play assa

Not sub

[royal lantern]

[hollow abyss]

When opening from stealth am I just aiming to get a single garrotte and rupture onto the pack? I don’t need to use them more than once?

[final wolf]

hey people! does anyone know what race is the best for st?

[royal lantern]

Vulpera, cus you can do flips and look cute

[maiden gale]

u have a cap when spreading bleeds, so u need to spam more if i m not wrong

[rotund oak]

im gonna try both im still not convinced for either spec tbh when both tyr and fort are present

but ye it looks like sin has the edge

more consistent ''aoe''

[zinc summit]

why top rogues play nigh elf now? is it better than dwarf?

[maiden gale]

double vanish?

[sharp viper]

kekw, good luck getting a restealth midpull with shadowmeld

[blazing totem]

it's finnicky but it works unless you are in combat with boss/miniboss

and you have to pray that something doesnt knock you out of it

[rotund oak]

its unreliable

nelf is good for pvp though

dwarf or mechagnome or orc

pretty confident those are the best

[maiden gale]

night elves are sexy

but blood elves are more

play what u like best if u not tryharding i guess

[novel star]

i miss my panda

but i also love my velf

[tawny geyser]

Wait what was better, macro Tea to KB or Shiv?

[novel star]

life is so hard man

[novel star]

shiv

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[rotund oak]

velf also good

[novel star]

i want

velf blink

on panda

[rotund oak]

and dmg

[novel star]

no idgaf

[rotund oak]

panda is cringe i cant play it

[novel star]

damage racials can die

i just want to be fluffy again

tbh

they should really make a furry twink race

so i can have best of both worlds

[rotund oak]

i wanna hit 3k on my rogue and play fresh classic

i can do it

my gnome is kinda rat

[tiny leaf]

😄

[rotund oak]

but can do some dmg

[novel star]

progression realms lowkey ass

imo…

[tiny leaf]

play Hardcore , they will open a new serveR 😛

[rotund oak]

im gonna take my idk,8th-9nth grand marshal

[novel star]

classic raids are too uninteresting for 3 months of repeating them

even worse on hardcore lmao

[rotund oak]

hardcore is a lifestyle

[tiny leaf]

😄

i like it ^^

[rotund oak]

cringers be cringing

[novel star]

to each their own

personally u will find me dead before u find me raid logging to do vanilla mechanics

but

everyone is different

[rotund oak]

vanilla doesnt have mechanics 😄

its 1 button watching netflix

[novel star]

precisely

[languid yoke]

is there any fun macros, for Skardyn's grace with any of my big cds?

[novel star]

why prog realms are shit

cus ur forced to farm the same boss that doesn’t do anything

on ur spec that has no skill ceiling

for multiple months

and it takes 40 fucking people

[spice spire]

Dog no

[novel star]

you know you wanna

[rotund oak]

we typically macro it with deathmark

[languid yoke]

alright, good to know. would you have a macro handy? not quite great at makin em.

[rotund oak]

hold need to rewrite it now

#showtooltip deathmark
/Use 13
/Use 14
/Cast Deathmark

this should work

[languid yoke]

thank you.

[rotund oak]

u r welcome fam

remember that slot 13 is the 1st 14 the 2nd,u can erase the other one on macro based on wher euve got it equipped

unless ofc u are going with 1 passive and skadryns

[languid yoke]

you dont use mutilate in stealth window. right?

[royal lantern]

@spice spire happy bday

[royal lantern]

you mean during subterfuge?

[languid yoke]

that one yes.

[royal lantern]

just slam ambush

[spice spire]

4 months late bud

[languid yoke]

bc i am currently copying uh my setup from no stealth to subterfuge.

[languid yoke]

alright ty ty.

[grim glen]

does cloak/evasion work on first boss mythic suck?

[hollow knot]

do you guys switch with tab or click to garrote everyone with the vanish stuff that lets you stab the fuck out of everyone

[ornate wagon]

In aoe 1 tempest does the whole pack yeah as the bleed spread and the dot gets extended on re application? Ty

[pliant remnant]

Neither

You use a mouseover

[novel star]

i mouseover or i just ignore it

i usually ignore it

because its not really a big deal

!carnage

[prisma monolith]

Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

• The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
• You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

[royal lantern]

thats a new one

cus thats not a "requirment" at all

[novel star]

clicking is way better than tab tho

and mouseover is just clicking with less inputs

but yeh

[royal lantern]

not really but eh

[blazing pumice]

yes really

[novel star]

i mean it objectively is

[royal lantern]

like, doesnt matter lol

[blazing pumice]

yes it does

[novel star]

because tab can put you on a target that already has 1 of the 2 bleeds

[blazing pumice]

tab targetting is slow and cumbersome

[pliant remnant]

?

[novel star]

and then youre spending extra time and inputs and mental energy

reacting to it being a bad target

[pliant remnant]

Nothing said anything about a requirement

[novel star]

and tabbing and doing that again

BUT its not really like relevant so who cares about optimizing something that alrdy doesnt matter anyway

[royal lantern]

mate, how much do you overthink every single action in this game lol

[blazing pumice]

how is it overthinking

[novel star]

this is what optimization looks like

its very very important to optimize settings etc

cause it lets you put more mental into the relevant mid gameplay decisions

[misty holly]

You guys must be way better clickers than me. I select the wrong thing constantly trying to click. Might as well roll the dice with a tab and let god sort it out after.

[novel star]

instead of shit that can just be avoided with a little setup while ur afk in hub city

same shit as like weakauras

[blazing pumice]

then you should probably just slap bleeds on the same target

[novel star]

why give yourself more irrelevant shit to think about when you can just not

let a loud horn do the thinking for u

exact same argument applies to mouseover macros removing 2 inputs, its not a big deal but theres practically no reason not to

[royal lantern]

no, thats wannabe optimization lol

like, taking a miniscule thing and acting as if its somehow making a difference in the end when it really does not

[inland escarp]

People just love to be contrarians in this chat

[novel star]

when did i ever say it makes a difference

[blazing pumice]

tryan has consistently shit takes

[novel star]

i have gone out of my way at literally every possible step to reiterate that it DOES NOT make a difference

ur just putting words in my mouth for no reason

[misty holly]

Speaking of the horn, someone here should make a rogue specific addon package for DBM that like tells you exactly when to feint. Like rather than all the random warnings you get now and have to figure it out just "press feint now" warning.

[royal lantern]

who are you again

[novel star]

we talk about optimizing keybinds like it matters (cause it does)

[novel star]

but using a macro which is the same kind of optimization

is overthinking

[leaden tapir]

does anyone have a garrote mouse over macro ?

[novel star]

theres a lot of different formats that work but i just copypasted the one from WOWHEAD.COM

if i recall correctly

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[leaden tapir]

thank you

[amber brook]

#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover,harm,exists] Garrote; Garrote

#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover,harm,exists] Rupture; Rupture

[novel star]

forgot the ; thingy

gotta do that so it also casts on target without mouseover

[tawny rapids]

hey guysm in Raid, do you hold transmitter for CDs or do you cast it off CD, its 1.5 min where DM is 2mins

of course i cast it with the first set of DM but do i hold for 30 seconds to get the second olr thrid to line up

[royal lantern]

with cds ofc

@blazing pumice sorry another shit take

[royal lantern]

yes you hold

and preferably use it 1-2 GCD's before you use DM so you can do the minigame

if you struggle at doing it fast

[novel star]

based

[royal lantern]

you know me, always double down

[novel star]

correct usage is sending it on the solo shiv

mad?

[royal lantern]

he says raid

[novel star]

ye

you desync your cds and fuck the whole rotation

for transmitter

[royal lantern]

i dont think anyone actually does that

[rotund oak]

transmitter and sac can both burn in hell

stupid @ss trinkets

[final dawn]

[coral ibex]

erm filter evasion mods make this man eat british food

[royal lantern]

i mean, dont use them?

be normal and put them in sims so the number is bigger and then use skardyns+any other passive trinket in actual gameplay

[lyric grail]

Can someone recommend me a assa Talent Import spec to do zekvirr?? And what idols for Bran I cant find a assa Rogue guide

[waxen oyster]

Says delve build on wowhead

[wet dagger]

I recommend going outlaw and saving yourself a lot of time haha

[royal lantern]

basic raid build with spatter+elusivness

brann on healer with arrowhead+amorph

[waxen oyster]

same relics on every class

[royal lantern]

kick the heal, let brann dispell the first poison dot, cloak the 2nd, vanish the 3rd, brann dispells the 4th, boss should be dead after that/cloak up again

always have the heal potion HoT active

if brann doesnt dispell fast enough or you have nothing against the dot, evasion+feint and pray

[lyric grail]

Ty for ur insight will do that 🙂

[waxen oyster]

can also stoneform

[lyric grail]

Im nelf but will try with meld

[sly ore]

do i play twice vanish in m+ now?

[slate crown]

if you want to

[waxen oyster]

Meld does nothing

poop race

[blazing warren]

Hey guys, when doing the sequence here, sometimes i dont get to 5CPs, should i just mutilate again or do less than 5CP Envenom?

[royal lantern]

never finish under 5CP

[tiny leaf]

yes

[blazing warren]

Thank you

....Aaand, is it normal that there is quite a bit of waiting when playing the spec?

[tired gull]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[blazing warren]

Im coming from Outlaw and there you basically fill every global possible no downtime

So i Envenom the last second of buff while trying not to get above 50% Energy while at the same time get to 50% Energy (or more?) for my cooldowns?

[smoky helm]

even with TTK we refresh envenom within the last few second of duration?

[novel star]

Yea

last few seconds of the lower stack

cause thats the one that gets replaced

you can also just slam and its not as bad anymore because energy economy is a lot more chill compared to pre 11.0.5 builds

but

[blazing warren]

Stack?

[novel star]

twist the knife

2 stacks of envenom

[blazing warren]

Oh i dont have it in my M+ talents

[novel star]

then just last second yea

[smoky helm]

with the ST build yes, but with the m+ one i struggle a bit with the boss dmg

[novel star]

dont "try" to get above 50 for cds though

let sanguine blades be a passive

ignore it completely

other than

avoiding it

or just dont take it

[blazing warren]

So even in cooldowns on ST i shouldnt just spam Envenom?

[novel star]

[novel star]

you spam during shiv

specifically

[coral ibex]

you definitely spam during your cds

[golden loom]

during deathmark especially energy is not a problem so you spam spam spam

[coral ibex]

you have double energy with death mark

[smoky helm]

and about the Tea stacks? do we try to keep up a charge for the DM/KB?

[golden loom]

just macro it to KB and it plays itself

[novel star]

i mean true but that energy isnt overcapping

i guess youd stack kb marginally faster

[coral ibex]

doesn’t matter, more envenoms is faster kb ramp

[blazing warren]

Macro Tea to Kingsbane?

[golden loom]

ye

[royal lantern]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[royal lantern]

macro tea with shiv

[blazing warren]

Tea is kinda automatically used for me

[golden loom]

oh

[blazing warren]

Because of the new change

[golden loom]

I am dumb yeah meant shiv

sorry

[novel star]

fair nuf

[blazing warren]

So i can unbind Tea with this?

[royal lantern]

the bigger thing is that during DM you do more envenom dmg aswell cus amp. poison is active 2x and lethal dose has even more stacks

many forget that

[novel star]

the difference between maintaining envenom and mashing envenom is basically nonexistent anyway

with ttk

who gives a fuck

just press buttons

[royal lantern]

^

[smoky helm]

problem is, i let all my stack consume cause i spam a bit too much with the M+ build

[novel star]

90% of the time you hit 5cp its in pandemic anyway

game is bad

[golden loom]

mixed up tea with coldblood cause that you macro to kingsbane, but tea you macro to shiv 👍

[spice spire]

Ur bac

[royal lantern]

kb is 1min cd

tea is 1min cd

shiv is ~30sec

tea always alings with KB and Shiv by default

[novel star]

No thats a different discord chatter

[royal lantern]

you always have 1 charge

[spice spire]

Dog I’m half awake

[royal lantern]

hi half awake

[novel star]

half deaaaaaad half awake

make a pie

[spice spire]

Tryan I’m going to eat ur ass

[novel star]

bake a cake

which roooooad

will u take?

dried roses.........

[slate crown]

gm

[humble verge]

does anybody have a smart misdirect/tricks WA or macro to insta-use on tanks?

[novel star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyHLDP67xoQ unbelievable album man

[humble verge]

or is there already one here if i do !wa

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[royal lantern]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[humble verge]

gucci

[royal lantern]

@humble verge

[spice spire]

It is not.
Cannot look at light rn or I get nauseous

[royal lantern]

ouch

[spice spire]

But GM le I hope you’ve an amazing day

[slate crown]

I'm sorry for directing photons into your eyeballs

[coral ibex]

if you look at the envenom buff uptime graph on a sim it basically always maintains 1 stack and then spams envenoms during cds so

[smoky helm]

i see..ty

[coral ibex]

that’s what i’m going off

[royal lantern]

and the funny thing is

100% perfect minmaxing Tea VS not giving a single fuck about it and letting the game auto use it whenever

is 0,4% or smth like that

like, dont think about tea to hard

[smoky helm]

ye that's what i do..i just spam and let the game consume all the charges

[royal lantern]

macro with shiv and just play tbh

[smoky helm]

thx for the help ❤️

[honest silo]

I tried using this macro for shiv/tea but it was not working during raid last night. It only cast shiv.

#showtooltip Shiv
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[tired gull]

This is a dumb question but a mistake I’ve made plenty of times, did you replace shiv on your bars with the macro? Did you do that then switch saved builds so the new build doesn’t have it on your bar?

[novel star]

^

[honest silo]

yeah, I replaced shiv with the macro

I even put it on stealth bar just in case

[blazing warren]

Arent you supposed to press castsequence macro twice for the second spell?

[royal lantern]

no

the castsequence prevents you from using it for again for ~5seconds

[novel star]

the shiv isnt in the castsequence

castsequence is thistle tea + nothing

[royal lantern]

in case you spam the keybind so you dont use 2 tea

[novel star]

as tyran said

[molten flicker]

yes, that's how it works if u put spells in a sequence

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/deer-interview-it-goes-without-saying-gif-12669775144079688963

[novel star]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-just-spunned-in-front-of-the-females-cat-cat-spin-cat-spun-cat-getting-spun-gif-13054455793337746706

[molten flicker]

but in the case of the tea macro, the sequence is for nr 1 tea and nr 2 null (so, "do nothing if pressed within 5 seconds")

because u have 1 line of /cast shiv, the macro does this every press no matter what

and on the next line there is castsequence reset=5 tea, null

so the 5 sec will reset with every press

so if u wait 4 sec and press again

u will get shiv but no tea

and it will reset the 5 sec timer

for u to be able to get tea from that button

🙂

[royal lantern]

words

[molten flicker]

guys, anyone of u know where I can find where u put pandemic in plater?

[rotund oak]

happens im half brit so sounds cool

[molten flicker]

I would also like to make the 5th combopoint light up in a different color from the rest, is this possible through plater and if so where?

[rotund oak]

im with crystal and a knife,happiest gnome in the hood

[normal mist]

Gnome and happy in the same sentence?

[dusty zenith]

anyone have a pickpocket macro that I dont have to manualy switch targets?

used to have one many moons ago but cant seem to find it

[coral ibex]

/targetenemy
/cast Pickpocket

[rotund oak]

not rly im playing cool with my ponytails

[arctic socket]

I’m not happy humans don’t have the same hair options as dracythr does

But they are both like humans

[rotund oak]

Humans have THE BEST hair

universe

[arctic socket]

What

[rotund oak]

make that multiverse

[arctic socket]

Imma bust my nuts to your pfp @rotund oak

[spice spire]

[molten flicker]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[umbral sierra]

!energy

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[spice surge]

[proud basin]

Hi all, looking to come back to wow, and just wanted to see how assassination rogues are doing/feeling

[spice surge]

Amazing/good

[proud basin]

in both m+ and raid?

[spice surge]

Yes

[coarse summit]

yes

[proud basin]

oh thats what i love to hear

guess its time to get rid of the rust

[proud pelican]

Does anyone know how many minutes into the broodtwister fight you run out of room or where I can look it up?

[spice surge]

Around 10 minutes

[proud pelican]

Ty Eleem

[warm vortex]

Lies

jump onto her back

and use HER as the arena

[novel star]

hope sin is shit next tier so i can get my uncontested dagger drops

once again

[warm vortex]

For my guild sin could be as good as it is

[umbral sierra]

and not get invited to raids

[warm vortex]

No other rogues in our guild

that aint alts

[umbral sierra]

sub gonna be op next season so there is still dagger competition

[humble socket]

As long as Sin or Sub are better than Outlaw.

[umbral sierra]

"ur only better bc acro" -some oulaw kid in the assa discord the last 2 days

"oh and bc bladeflurry is hard capped"

[vast patio]

I'm not used to having this much choice, it's nice.

[warm vortex]

God i fucking miss accro

*acro

[novel star]

nah rls still want rogue buff

atro bot

[humble verge]

anybody here using Elemental Focusing Lens for raid/m+?

[humble verge]

had 2 people swap to rogue alts just for the fight, and we hit like 36% before 2nd set of p2 eggs lul

[upper oak]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[harsh ravine]

hi, shadowmeld doesn't work as vanish right ? it doesn't proc indiscriminate carnage ?

I was checking the maxoll guide (made by IA 🤡 )

[spice surge]

Yesnt

[tacit otter]

on trash you can meld -> stealth which would proc indiscriminate carnage. but this is not consistent

[harsh ravine]

ooooh okokkkk

this is not consistent if a monster has true sight in the pack

[tacit otter]

on bosses this doesnt work because you cant drop combat to stealth

[harsh ravine]

I guess

[spice surge]

Its moreso due to combat in this game being a bit wonky

The safest way to make it work as often as possible is to run out of the pack to do it

[harsh ravine]

alright I got it

[hardy dagger]

Aye we don't even play the first set of eggs in the last area

[spice surge]

But again, it doesnt always work

[harsh ravine]

I tried to shadowmeld into garrot but it wasn't working as invisibility, I didn't think about casting stealth in between

sure sure ty for the tip

[humble verge]

not been there yet

saj

[vast loom]

its not something you wanna rely on for sure

[hardy dagger]

Assa absolutely cranks bossdmg on Ovi

[tall cradle]

u shadowmeld to exit combat then stealth

it doesnt autoput u in stealth

[humble verge]

yaaaaaaaaaaaa

even tho i also try to pad with crimson lul

my ovi damage on our best pull yesterday was a good 1,4m

[faint vessel]

this is my guild, but we suck and will probably only do 5-6/8 this tier. at least dagger drops are always mine, though. i dont think we even have an 80 rogue alt in guild

[sudden sigil]

Can You evade Dodge the frontal from Big mobs in NW? The cleave

[humble verge]

the marauders?

also i believe no

just stand behind them :3

[sudden sigil]

Its a discussion with friends, he is tank he decided to snipe me Yesterday. Quite impressive snipe.

But we just talking about if its possible or not

[humble verge]

nah

ive not tried it atleast

you could go in a normal NW

use evasion and try and see

[proper seal]

why should we cast FoK if we're not talented into Vicious Venoms in ST?

[waxen sandal]

Need some advice 🙂
I have a 619 crafted dagger and a 606 dagger.
Best to craft a brand New 636 and smack In mh and put 619 In OH, or Just upgrade the 619 to 636 and use spark some other place

[warm vortex]

Doing a pug raid for heroic

This is the easiest way to parse high omk

Got a 96 blood and legit forgot to kingsbane (Pressed it and was som,ehow out of range, idk how that happened)

First time ive bmessed KB up that fight

[faint vessel]

iirc it's due to clear the witnesses. in ST with VV it isnt worth using FoK with CTW but without VV you do

[worthy stone]

Thats what I did, 2 hours later in NW dropped the dagger for my offhand xD

[warm vortex]

Reading your talents helps

;)

[pine cave]

!WA

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[rain wraith]

this looks cool

and with ''blink''

[faint vessel]

we're currently not using VV in single target so you can use FoK to build everytime youve got CTW

[wise whale]

It's shit

[rain wraith]

What about the mag'har orc one 6.5k secondary stats on 2m cd

[wise whale]

Oh the new one

[waxen sandal]

Haha, think i Just craft a New.., better ilvl gain:p

[rain wraith]

Mag'har orc's new racial looks nice atleast for end of S1

[novel star]

why r we talking about dps racials in here

[wise whale]

Maghar looks pretty good, I think orc is bis rn but race doesn't matter much

Uh oh it's the oli police

Run

[rain wraith]

uh oh its the popo

fun detected

[wise whale]

Fr tho racials are minimal at best (dps racials)

[faint vessel]

i was anti dwarf for M+ value and then I went dwarf and I love having that little buffer for pug keys

[novel star]

im just curious

[rain wraith]

i mean its a 2nd skradyns

[faint vessel]

healer is really slow at dispels on siege? at least i can get a stoneform and cloak off and live for a few cycles

[lethal turtle]

could be * a 2nd skradyns

[rain wraith]

idk. Think it looks interesting

[wise whale]

I really don't think it's gonna be impactful. Racials usually aren't outside of like DF troll for uhdk/arcane mage

[rain wraith]

void elf blink thing looks useful aswell

[novel star]

i will be paying 25$ to change my race and then lose more than the dps i gained by race changing by making one single rotational mistake

worth 👀

[rain wraith]

yo oli remember we minmax here

[novel star]

true.

[rain wraith]

its all about the simsssss dude

[novel star]

i dont like to minmax with my wallet tho

but u do u

[lethal turtle]

I care about utility

[rain wraith]

fuck utility

the sims

SIMS

[lethal turtle]

the people who say the sims also parse like 80

[rain wraith]

xD

[wise whale]

Any troll feet enjoyers

[lethal turtle]

Nelf only

[rain wraith]

ew

[cerulean walrus]

The people who say the sims parse like 60

[tired gull]

I’m a hard ilvl parse coper

[cerulean walrus]

God I love Ilvl parses big sucker for those

[wise whale]

Clutch be logging his follower dungeons

It's ok

[cerulean walrus]

I especially loved Ilvl parses during Eternal Palace with my Benthic gear

[rain wraith]

im living long on my monks ilvl parses when i got boosted throug heroic with my mates

might have done 500k dps but i parsed 99

[wise whale]

Did u link it in ur tinder bio

[rain wraith]

nah. on Grindr tho

[wise whale]

Gamer

[tired gull]

I’m just a heroic raider so ilvl parse is how I keep my mental, I have no myth track gear

[wise whale]

Sorry for assuming

[cerulean walrus]

Huh? No myth track? No M+ vault?

[tired gull]

Fuck m+

[cerulean walrus]

I feel like even heroic raiders get at least a few pieces

Okay lmao

[tired gull]

hahahaha

[cerulean walrus]

M+ chill

[rain wraith]

Clutch u can pug first 4 bosses on mythic its pretty easy

[cerulean walrus]

Just do your 10s ez and then done

[tired gull]

Not a big fan of 5man content for some reason

[coral ibex]

more personal responsibility than flex raiding

[wise whale]

Classic MMORPG player

[rain wraith]

im fucking hyped for Darkflame Cleft m+

[wise whale]

Ya ok

[tired gull]

That dungeon is going to be cheeks

[wise whale]

U from moonguard tord?

[rain wraith]

im the only alliance left on Grim batol eu

empty dornogal is best dornogal

[wise whale]

You strike me as the goldshire inn explorer

[tired gull]

As far as personal responsibility, I’m the one that winds up doing all mechanics in raids because the guild I’m in isn’t very good and can’t handle them

[rain wraith]

Yeah i think ive seen u there before

[wise whale]

o7 men of culture

[warm vortex]

Pug group is going p well so far

lol

[silk sundial]

I want to get 4/8 this weekend. I have aotc, tried pugging Ulgrax last night but the groups I was joining were just so uncoordinated. What do you look for when finding a group?

[novel star]

idk man pugging mythic is just kinda shit

make sure the rl actually has bosses dead tho is a good start ig

[heady ridge]

this probably is everywhere in guides but i need to ask quick before the next pull: at 6 combo points do i mutilate for the 7th CP or do i envenom at 6

[silk sundial]

Is a raid leader that's 4/8 going to take someone that isn't 4/8?
My guild does have a m prog group but I can't commit the time to for that. Our casual group is consistently clearing heroic but there's little interest in swapping to mythic lol

[spice surge]

Finishers at 5 or more

Unless you have darkest night

[fresh kelp]

Probably not unless they really need a raid buff

I wouldn’t think it’s that unlikely though, especially with good H parses

[silk sundial]

Most of my H parses are purple. Few blue outliers

[normal mist]

I'm from the same server / faction and dornogal is always full

[next dust]

!guides

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[green glade]

noob rogue here - the M+ builds all use without a trace but my guildie told me it's bait.... is he being too vanish shy, or what?

[muted turtle]

trying to figure out what the best build is for doing 10+ keys, any tips?

8-11+ that is

[novel star]

wowhead.com hybrid build

and then pick one of the 400 modifications you can make

that all dont matter

[normal mist]

It's fine, some use some don't

[novel star]

but really just import hybrid and vibe idk

[craggy oyster]

Should I trust sim and put haste on all my socket and crafted items or just ignore it and go mastery/crit crit/mastery ?

I kinda wanna trust sim but i haven't seen a lot of discussion regarding haste here

[tacit otter]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[royal lantern]

why should you not trust the sims

[dark quiver]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[lethal turtle]

Trust the sim

My toon went to 2% haste and now wants my next craft to be a haste master neck.

Wouldn’t bother simming multi gem combos. That is cringe

[cobalt sphinx]

Have you tried simming dungeon slice

[novel star]

im just doing smol crit on every multi stat gem

dont gaf

rip 0.05%dps

[lethal turtle]

Yeah even in ST and Dslice haste mastery neck is dunking on crit mastery. Crazy times

[craggy oyster]

Im simming light movement

[wise whale]

Your crit must be insane ig

[craggy oyster]

Aight i guess ima go for items recommendations and ignore gems, thanks guys o/

[cobalt sphinx]

Everyone has insane crit with MA already

[wise whale]

But for a haste mast neck to be outperforming their crit mast to that degree I mean

[faint vessel]

for blightbone (first boss wake), cloak first frame right? is there anything else I can do to deal with it?

[novel star]

you can just evasion it

[faint vessel]

got it

[normal mist]

Cloak on the last second or evasion

[novel star]

also cloak thing is the first second of cloak

[faint vessel]

so I can use both, wanted to confirm, thank you!

[novel star]

its not that precise

but yeh

[normal mist]

!nw

[prisma monolith]

The breath/frontal from the first boss in Necrotic Wake is an attack, not a spell.

In order to immune the the breath, you must be in the first second of cloak of shadows (“a moment of magic immunity”). After the first second of cloak of shadows has elapsed, the attack will hit you and no longer be immuned.
Alternatively you can use evasion to dodge the breath.

[novel star]

evasion just simply dodges it

[faint vessel]

yeah not quite frame

oh we have a nw command, thanks @normal mist

mainly wanted to confirm evasion

[wise whale]

Can also use it for the Belcher guy upstairs but you've gotta be giga quick with it

[lethal turtle]

15124 crit shouldn’t be too much

[rotund oak]

😂

[normal mist]

I know who knows

[lethal turtle]

Simc already told me.

[uncut sphinx]

What's up gamers? I am here because I am switching mains to AssaRogue because I have always wanted to play a Rogue bbut been intimidated. I have been getting the rotation down (Fun AF), but I am just struggling with utilizing defensives properly in general. Feint when AOE is going out?, Crimson Vial when AOE or having to run through dumb shit, but like..I pretty much just guess with cloak at this point, and I feel like I hold my Evasion. Just wondering if I can get some insight on proper use? I am going to be getting into mythic raid and I am 2600+ IO on my current toon(Ret pally). Appreciate any tips and tricks'y'all got.

[ornate wagon]

why do we fan of knives in st opener pls?

[vast loom]

If you are playing deathstalker evasion is a good magic dr

[uncut sphinx]

Been reading through WH and watching a bunch of different youtubers, but none of them talk Defensives.

DS always.

[vast loom]

Yeah one of the talents gives it a magic dr

So make sure you use it

[cobalt sphinx]

You use fan of knives as a generator with clear the witness active, once per application of deathstalkers mark

[vast loom]

Clear the witness read the talent

As long as you don't have viscous venom talented you use the proc

[trail locust]

Whats a defensive

[void gazelle]

!trick

[uncut sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-gif-11830785380135915945

[rotund oak]

Defensive is Soda after 20 tacobells(not that it works but.. 😂 )

[void gazelle]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[ornate wagon]

thanks mate does it really do much dmg in st though?

[toxic kelp]

guys how much damage loss is it if we talent into ironwire in m+ ? like around what percent ? how do you do the math around that ?

[kindred abyss]

in dung-slice
~3% dropping twist the knife
~5% dropping sanguine blades.
(for me) simyoself

[gray hazel]

what does this even do

[cobalt sphinx]

Better than a mutilate

[cobalt sphinx]

The macro will always tricks a tank if there is one in your party or raid without you having to change it or set your focus

[gray hazel]

thats wild

Im just a macro noob but it doesnt even seem like its even casting tricks

[cobalt sphinx]

It is through the weakaura

[uncut sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/i-like-that-dan-gallagher-fatal-attraction-s1-e7-i-like-that-idea-gif-5707304908109937196

[indigo orchid]

Heyho so our Major cooldown Deathmark how does it work exactly? do i have to apply it first and afterwards my garrot and rupture or can i apply bleeds first and deathmark after and the damage gets still doubled ?

[gray hazel]

that makes way more sense, thanks

[coral ibex]

100% damage loss to take iron wire

pure noob trap

never take iron wire

[visual marsh]

it works bothways, but in opener u apply dots first into deathmark

[austere ridge]

It works with your bleeds already on the target, but at the last few seconds you typically want to vanish and reapply garrote

[indigo orchid]

the garrote stays empowered then ? or why do i want to do that

[vast loom]

its better than a mutilate its not a crazy big deal if you mess it up

[austere ridge]

So typically you will open from stealth apply bleeds death mark kingsbane shiv at start of kb shiv again last 7 seconds vanish to re apply improved garrote at last 2 seconds of death mark then don't apply garrote again until that fully ticks off

[vast loom]

reapply imp garrotte AND gives you master assassin crit for the end of your DM/KB for big dmg

[austere ridge]

If you do that correct you will clear over 3mill burst single target easily on opener

[crimson nova]

that thistle tea shiv macro, it's designed to use tea after shiv and then prevent you from wasting a 2nd charge of tea if u spam click right?

and it's just one click cause tea off gcd?

[austere ridge]

If you have thistle active you won't use thistle again with it

[crimson nova]

nice

so i'll just replace shiv with that

[austere ridge]

You want to shiv on cd now also

[rotund oak]

it prevents u for pressing a 2nd tea while its active

[crimson nova]

because you'll always have it up for kb still?

[austere ridge]

Yeah so long as u open correct and use it correct between kb

And always prio shiv at the end of KB window last 6 o 8 seconds

[rotund oak]

that depends on ur uptime as well

[crimson nova]

my issue is more remembering to use it when kb not going

[rotund oak]

u cant utilize that edgy usage

[crimson nova]

you use in aoe without kb?

[warm vortex]

I love how a fuol group of curved people still has someone missing the pop

You remove them
inv someone w curbved

they do the same thing

[austere ridge]

Yeah to increase bleeds

[crimson nova]

doesn't that require Arterial Precision?

[novel star]

yes

[crimson nova]

we're running that in aoe now?

[cobalt sphinx]

You only shiv on cd with 1 shiv

[novel star]

you can

but it’s not the standard

[crimson nova]

😮

[novel star]

most people don’t

it’s not really worth

[crimson nova]

yeah i didnt think so

[novel star]

without atp shiv in aoe does nothing

[austere ridge]

Not true

[novel star]

that is true for fucks sake

what the hell do you mean not true

why would you send a shiv on cd with 2 charges

[cobalt sphinx]

With 2 shivs you use them both in kingsbane

[novel star]

^

[rotund oak]

bro is just dogmatic

mostly yapping rather than acutally realistically approaching shiv usage

[novel star]

sorry i’m sleepy mad not mad mad

[rotund oak]

if u cant shiv on cd

as in having uptime

[novel star]

but for real please do not shiv on cd with 2 charges

[rotund oak]

ur kb desyncs

so ''shiv on cd'' is dog

dont listen to silly stuff

makes no sense

if u can guarantee the KB coverage then press it sure

but its not 100% certain u can

[novel star]

What are we typing

[rotund oak]

nonsensical yellow stuff

nvm

bro shivs on cd

1 shiv

[novel star]

no like what are you typing

[rotund oak]

[rotund oak]

just refuting his nonsense with what is a rational outcome of not pressing shiv on cd

[novel star]

but how are you ever not guaranteeing the last 8s of kb is covered

if u just slam it on cd

[rotund oak]

u can just be late to hit a pack or get the opportunity to shiv

coz pack dies or whatever

[novel star]

well yeah

that’s

not hitting it on cd

[rotund oak]

well tahts what im saying

[novel star]

on cd means on cd

[rotund oak]

yeah im saying

its not realistic to hit it on cd many times

[novel star]

true i guess

[rotund oak]

ofcits true

im 20 years old rogue

[patent quail]

soo, we dont shiv on cd ?XD

[novel star]

i feel like holding it in that case is incredibly intuitive and really doesn’t need so many messages to explain

[cinder birch]

Question: Raidbots says this 2 points in Lethality is more dps over all then 2 points in Subterfuge, do yall think that is correct?

[novel star]

but maybe i overestimate the average wow player brain

[coral ibex]

so many people get carried to aotc and legit belong in LFR

[warm vortex]

What percent of the playerbase do you think have bought curbe

[cinder birch]

for mythics

[crimson nova]

do you guys use an Amber gem to get that extra bonus from the blasphemite or nah?

[coral ibex]

this tier has done nothing but destroy any faith i have in the average wow raider

[novel star]

probably but it depends if you have MA or not and also subterfuge adds more than just damage

[cobalt sphinx]

Stam? Naw not worth it at all

Not even for a tank i think

[crimson nova]

i wasnt sure if the bonus for the extra color offset the bad stat

the .15% crit effect or whatever

[warm vortex]

I just wanbt the dam queen ring

Please

[proven jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[crimson nova]

same

[cobalt sphinx]

The bonus is quite small, it’s barely even worth running different colored gems

[novel star]

just get it

[crimson nova]

that's a shame, it's a cool concept

[novel star]

i also wanted the queen ring so i just opened my vault and got it idunno what the big deal is

took one click

[crimson nova]

gratz

[ornate wagon]

obviosly im a low item level but is it normal to starve energy in st?

[novel star]

Yes

[faint vessel]

yerp

[limpid hearth]

Yes

[novel star]

ilvl won’t change it, stats won’t change it

[limpid hearth]

Unavoidable

[novel star]

assassination is designed to run out of energy

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[crimson nova]

sooo it won't feel better in later seasons?

[coral ibex]

well i haven’t raided really since SL other than wotlk classic and i assumed it was just classic andys being classic andys

[novel star]

nope

[crimson nova]

RIP

[novel star]

maybe slightly

[rotund oak]

we dont know that friend,anything could happen

[atomic bison]

but of a stupid question but if i'm being fucked with my vaults should i just make the 2nd 636 dagger?

[crimson nova]

i probably try outlaw or sub for s2 anyway

[coral ibex]

no

[novel star]

but at this point it seems like you don’t like that feeling then you kinda just don’t like assassination

because

[coral ibex]

offhand is a stat stick

[atomic bison]

fair enough

[novel star]

energy right now is fake as FUCK compared to pre 11.0.5 energy

so if u dislike it now

[cobalt sphinx]

You can always run dashing scoundrel

[novel star]

i’m afraid u may be cooked unless blizzard keeps doing this cringe shit which who knows maybe they do

[cobalt sphinx]

I wonder how much that even gives

[novel star]

a solid amount with ttk

[rotund oak]

yup

[limpid hearth]

Still wont be swamped with energy

[rotund oak]

thats a given

[coral ibex]

have you raided since you posted that kyveza prog pic

[rotund oak]

it is what it is

[novel star]

which pic

[coral ibex]

you posted like a 10% wipe or something

[novel star]

we ended the week at 3.8% with uhhhhh 111 pulls ?

[warm vortex]

Had a tank say that infest isnt a tank swap

[coral ibex]

nice

[novel star]

it dies next week prolly

and then court time

[warm vortex]

And said that "healers can heal past it each time on his kills"
like bro

[novel star]

despair

[coral ibex]

my RL will snap replace people so we kept slowing prog for new people to learn

[dim mural]

He progging lfr?

[coral ibex]

i did 139 pulls before it died

[crimson nova]

do most of you guys mythic raid? i've been able to pug 2 bosses on my bear but hard to get groups

[warm vortex]

He also said how he was doing better than the other tank (despite dying) because his HPS was higher
Like
No shit a BDK HPS is higher than a Brew

[warm vortex]

Had curve

[coral ibex]

i think total the guild did 190

[warm vortex]

99% sure he bought it

[novel star]

mythic pugging is really not fun

but yeah

[warm vortex]

Everything past like

[crimson nova]

it's fun except for the lockout and my 5 guildies go on mondays so

[warm vortex]

boss 2 is just a drag

[crimson nova]

it's a roll of the dice

[warm vortex]

cause most people do like

[novel star]

a bad mythic guild will be better than pugging it tbh

[warm vortex]

first 2 for vault or first 4

[lethal arrow]

find yourself a guild

[warm vortex]

True

[crimson nova]

only good thing about pug mondays is people care less about lockout

[lethal arrow]

raiding is 0 fun in pugs

[coral ibex]

pugging sikran or rash bro why even bother

[crimson nova]

i have one we're just like 7 people so

[warm vortex]

Vault

if you have like 6 hours to bruin

[coral ibex]

just join a myth guild and be an alt

[warm vortex]

*Burn

[novel star]

easiest little chungus bosses ever

but ye

pugs wipe 30 times and ff

[warm vortex]

Dude

[coral ibex]

mythic guilds are doing 4/8 alt runs for a few weeks now

[warm vortex]

pugs have a hard time killing brood on heroic

[crimson nova]

i started sikran prog it didnt seem bad

[coral ibex]

it isn’t

[novel star]

first 4 are all easy

[warm vortex]

You tell them what egs to pop. Mark them when they come up
and then

[novel star]

very easy

[coral ibex]

braindead boss fight

[warm vortex]

They mess it up

[novel star]

it just won’t be easy in a pug

[coral ibex]

basically identical to heroic

[novel star]

unfortunately

[warm vortex]

Nothing is easy in pug land

[lethal arrow]

at this point lot of mythic guilds are still reclearing up to silken too

[coral ibex]

but people still can’t stand in a box on the edge

in current week of current year

[warm vortex]

Im in a casual heroic guild and we are reclearing him next week

we have 1 mythic raid night a week atm

And we are up to rashnan atm

[novel star]

ye idk

the first 4 kinda just don’t do anything

[warm vortex]

Tbf

[lethal arrow]

and then the difficulty spikes at ovinax

[warm vortex]

the "don't place ghosts near eachother"

felt like it was apparent

[novel star]

ovinax does stuff but once u get used to it ovinax also doesn’t do anything

[lethal arrow]

because u spend the first 50 pulls figuring out weak auras

[novel star]

there’s no execution on ovinax

[warm vortex]

Btw

[novel star]

just tech support and strats

[warm vortex]

i looked it up and didn't see but like
How do i get delvers journy stuff

[lethal arrow]

ok who didnt break egg? oh ur WA broke? spend another 5 pulls fixing it

[crimson nova]

our goal is just mythic rash by end of season

[lethal arrow]

repeat until everyones fixed and u kill the boss

[lethal arrow]

just do a delve once a week

and youll get 6k towards it

[warm vortex]

kk

[coral ibex]

ovinax is such a shit boss to both prog and reclear

[novel star]

i mean

[lethal arrow]

reclears are fine

at this point at least

[novel star]

i’ve only recleared ovinax once

but it was kinda just boring

it fell over

[lethal arrow]

if ur skipping last set of eggs the boss is free

theres no worries at all

[coral ibex]

not when you have half the raid who weren’t in the prog kill bc you booted people

[novel star]

ok but that’s ur rls fault

not the boss