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Okay. I went to org target dummies and now I'm not getting full cp. Ty!


sometimes my mark is not proccing even tho i use 5+ combo points
am i doing something wrong?
Ok I knew that
i swear there was a command...
At the least
!wa
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yes
if you have Darkest Night buff up while the target is marked, that happens
bugged
I mean specifically on the third boss of GB
Is it because you have DN up?
Sometimes phase 1 butch just ignores me finishing on 5
But is it something wrong in the bot or is it wanted, good question
Idk why it’s always only that fight
Maybe dps diff isn't big enough to bother with different rules
cause you start with ambush and have darkest night up
Onto the next question. Should I aim to have full CP before going into my cooldown sequence?
hmm that might be it
no
No just have envenom running
And bleeds ofc
Dw I didn't know that crippling poison was a dps increase until 3 days ago
🤯
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This is because of lethal dose right
Or am I dumb
Don’t die
we timed the 15 but it seems like the strat is just save brez for last boss
If you have both steps you can quickly double bleed both tentacles
dont get the dot
^
😦
pretty shit mechanic
just play dk as blizzard intended
i went to about 1% hp with evasion and feint up
Tell your enh shaman to healing surge you
I did and I got told to fuck off
It was a pug to
Ask for sac from your prot pally

we run prot war/ret/resto shaman/misc LUL
Hello to you too vendeten

quick question how do i socket my gear am i just go Mastery/Crit all? or do i need every Color of Gems cause of blasphemite... (whatever that means) 😄
How’s it going either way
I think colour gems is good but as always sim
I had a feeling it would work because you're way too nice and I like having you around
Personally I’m running the 4 colours and then just using crit mast
:D thanks!
I am also in uni lecture so not much to do
Doing amazing so far, I hate work today but it's all going well honestly
As Wednesday I have to get to uni, stay for an hou, leave
Oh fair fair
Trail spinner or emergency stop keychain? what are we saying
Vault went well
Sim but I would assume trail
But it depends on

I was already singing that since I woke up
Also
Vendeten
Check my best prediction so far
Is he really going to eat pasta?
It was a few weeks ago, and I can't recall, but probably not
This is the one that always puts smth in my head
There was this one video that randomly auto played of a Nokia ringtone with this image as a backdrop
That would be insanely more awesome
But impressive
Ahahahahahahah
It’s genuinely a bop
Does the auto Garrote/Rupture prioritise targets without the debuff?
If there is 5 targets and i use Garrote from Stealth 2 times while having the same target, will all 5 mobs 100% get it?
But yea
It prio targets w/o it
So for 5 targets you can stay on the main one
For 6 you would wanna swap
Sweet
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Actually I used help I wonder what this command says
!carnage
Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required
- The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
- You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets
Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.
It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.
woah!
Fuck off
🍥
Jk love you
I remember when
!stealth
!restealth
Or whatever it was
Was giving people an aneurism in pugs
My sim says Ovi trinket, but wowhead says spyglass would be bis. I am confusion 😦
Anyone here with Mythic Kyveza experience?
Yes, simply dodge 😄
do dps, put charges correctly
Spy I’d assume right?
gg
Because you can upgrade them both to same level
If raidbot says ovinax then its ovinax
However terrible to play
And maybe the extra dps is from Egg being higher
No I upgraded them both to 639 in sim and it says Ovi
When do you rec use cloak
Oh huh
do what varas said
feint the intermission lines and use evasion at the last 10seconds of it aswell
thats all
yes ovinax is not recommended cause its annoying to play with
Or be like that one dude
Wym
When I get targeted with a shadow
Feint twice?
Okay
Coz you don't explode then and you can do more dmg
Or feint once and then evasion last 10sec
you feint every time you have a line
For example when u have to run with line to opposite side ?
cloak last 5s, evasion the 10s before cloak

feint on line, evasion when its at 10sec left cus evasion is 10sec and it helps a bit
15s of coverage vs wasted duration during cloak
cloaked the charges tbh
Im gonna try and remember this when/if we get to ky

if you don't get lines p1, you're cloaking intermissions
i cloak your dirty mouth
My next boss prog on mythic is rashnan
But we gotta get sikran down consistently first

But cloak what on intermission
😳
my brain can handle one (1, a singular amount) of cd assingments, im not gonna change them midpull cus i dont get the mechanic 
cloak the charges
Tryan said feint when get lines
both are ok
yes, lines and charge is 2 different things
So better cloak first line huh?
if you care about prog only -> cloak intermissions
Don't overthink it. Just cloak if you get a charge in normal phase. In intermission simply use feint/evasion
So u have it up earlier
to stop thinking of whispyr...
for my guild it was brood
considering you havent even killed rashana... its gonna be rough af either one
but we progressed kyveza really fucking fast
Ovinax was pain in the ass
Depends on your guild really. I personally find Kyveza easier, but my guild probably found Brood easier.
ilvl doesnt mean shit if they cant move correctly
People not being able to tell left vs right is going to be an issue, you would be surprised
and dont use defensives
thaddius moment
What do you mean
With charges?
return next circus 返回下一个马戏团
It’s already a running joke that our tanks can’t
Yeah
You would be surprised lol
I hope i parse better on kyveza than ovinax
Just watch 
Tbh
2 out of 2 deaths of atiesh wielders on my HC classic server is to going wrong side on thaddius 
Those people that can’t tell left from right are still 100x smarter than the people that come to the leasure centre I work at
I dont want to do Mythic plus
😡
Fucking hate mythic plus for These fucking currency
Always Tyrannic is so bullshit
I find it fun
The 15sec on death is what can fuck off
And for the crests spamming 8s is fine imo
Just some chill runs :D
? you know that if its always tyrannical and fortified at the same time, its as if there is neither
logically speaking
Also going 8s won’t give you both no?
they are there to create a sense of difficulty progression for lower keys
only dislike I have with m+ is that I have done so little of it cause the biggest problem is getting into groups
timed my first +10 yesterday tho (done completions for vault before but that was just wipe city) and it felt pretty good 😄
but comparing queing for M+ to raid where I get in instant feels weird
Fair I barely queue for raids cause I normally do it all with guild
dont have a guild atm so its just all pugging so my progression ends on reset day with heroic reclear + 3/8m usually 😄
the mythic raid locking feels kinda stinky but ofc makes sense to prevent boosts and what not
but for pugging it feels kinda bad when you kill ulgrax and then you have to hope the people in the group have time to keep playing
is 639 transmitter better than 626 skardyn's grace?
Yes
alright
so its just the mini game that makes it "bad"?
If you hate the mini game use the 626 skardyns
Yeah
alright
Not rly bad just rly annoying to use
yeah
And sometimes can put you in weird situations where you die
Tbf the only time transmitter is useful is when you have the last weeks affix which reduces cds and you are doing lower than 12 keys therefore your skardyn is never back up for deathmark but transmitter is
Well transmitter does sim higher and makes you have a strong burst
Like 15k agi pretty strong
weak
It sims worse for m+
bruh people buy mythic boosts all the time, the lockout just slows them down
mythic lockout is bad !
I wanna just buy the necklace
Why some people pref to play Sub on Mythic Silken? What's up with that? Any special benefits or?
seems toxic without a lockout lol, lots of save point scumming like in destiny 2
have a alt go in get lock out, load up raid at that boss. leave log in on other toon kill boss. log out make new raid group log in load up save point. have last group zone in on u log out swap log in kill boss
Hey it’s me with the ball hidden under queens ass
Or literally 65% of the other bosses this fucking season
Cool downs line up better with the damage amps
I miss the old acrobatic strikes SO bad man fuck these giant botched BBL bosses like Queen and some of the dungeon bosses like the last one of Mists.
acrobatic strikes?
You’d think they would learn
someone linked a plater thingy which makes the nameplate glow purple for deathstalker's mark, can't find it... anyone can help me out?
Likely a script
ovinax adds r literally aids if tanks arent tanking them on the boss
devastation and dk r stealin all the add dmg 
The war has just begun you mean
within us
why not mythic? 
its ok ok, got crystal on mythic
its aight
!wa
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Whispyr one does what you said
guild is progging mythic Ovi'nax, anyone have any useful advice for dodging Vile Discharge (swirlies), do any of you just decide to run out of melee range if it gets crazy?
well dying is a bigger dps loss than losing a global to live
ideally which tier set item out of the 5 you would want replaced by a better item?
Nough, nowy tends
yes.
just dodge and live.
With the amount of gear we have + the raid buff stacking, there's more than enough dmg to kill the boss quite easily if everyone lives or very few people die.
the sim will answer this for you
save cloak for when you have to break egg and you see a bunch of swirlies coming at you and you cant move or you will miss the break. happens more than it should.
How do you know when to go alchemical or mastery flask or crit flask, in m+?
alrighty sounds like the soluution is just to hop off boss, my guild is running 8-9 melee plus 3 tanks so it feels very congested
The chest piece from grim batol is very good, I got it myth track, it’s 1019 crit 1039 mastery, but also just sim first
you always go alchemical chaos
Also pay attention to the melee you’re with and where they position, during my prog I found on 2nd canister an entire area wasn’t used by my melee so I had a whole lil area by myself, people will naturally pick a spot on a fight and do that the entire time as repetition
if you have 10 billion crit and almost nothing of mastery, go mastery flask. if you have 10 billion mastery and almost nothing of crit, go crit flask.
In any other scenario where you're simming your gear constantly, going Chaos is the "go to" option
Other people (more competent people, btw), already said this on this discord and I tend to agree. If you are on the point where you need to ask "what flask is best?" (usually because you saw some streamer or other top end player using something different from the guide), it often means you're still on the lvl of the spec where you are better off doing the "default guide pick" instead of trying to min max without actually knowing what you're min maxxing or not.
well idk im getting into 13s (after a week on the char) now. and I do pretty well on spec. ofc there is still lots to learn. I just didnt have knowledge on consumes. I ran alchemical, then I saw zerocool run mastery, and I was a bit confused. so I asked in here.
Did he just sim every single pot?
zerocool, huh?
haha
xD
it’s always a “i watched someone do x”
probably. or maybe he thought mastery flasks were cheaper and he wanted to save gold for bruto
who knows
maybe he just felt like it
I mean im broke as well. I just run tier 2 flasks
are yall putting damage pot into deathmark macro in keys?
if you ask him he will probably say something like it doesn’t matter just use what the guide says anyway
I mean I used vers in alot of my dungeons just cause I had em from when I was outlaw,
i shouldn't, but I am, since I only do 10-11s to get my vault shit and dont care about pushing.
gotta save a keybind wherever i can
yea it’s like what 4-6 per dungeon? who cares
I like choosing where I pot
But I like having agency
I wish we could choose between auto tea and only cast tea
me too but I feel filthy doing it now that I'm pushing and my pot gets sent before surgeon on necrotic
guys, TtK or Sudden Demise for m+?
whichever your heart desires
the one you like more
How long is a rope?
all these talents are basically all equal
ok ty
so choose w/e you want
as long as you get the baseline good talents, can't go wrong

i like the animation of Sudden Demise more, mobs random exploding
no IW?
oh brother
I'm just cooking
don't spoil the secret techs
THey hate me cos they ain't me
why are you doing 5's?
5 out of 8
not +5
100pp
if you dont pug you dont need it
yeah, but then in all of them the pugs blow their interrupts on the first cast, then you all wipe.
easy. 
If you want to know lack of control
give disc priest a try
😄
I've never wanted a kick more
at first you're like, this is so nice not having to worry about using kick
then you thirst for it
anyone tried this? sd oriented just for lower keys
translation: then you really wish you could kick because the other donkeys cant. gotcha
idk I lowe iw
also known as the bleed build? yes, very good for low keys/leveling, etc
Rogue alt so only 622 in a mists
mists is a nice key
👨❤️💋👨
You can easily drop Iw in mists
yeah there's like 1 kick a pack
mists is a nice key, until you lose your DM on the 1st boss
huh.
I just pop my stuff n go
or necrotic wake losing mark to the 3rd boss, or putting it on the final boss and being sent down with no vanish to re-apply it.
or any other instance where you need to track that mark shit with any mechanic that might fuck it up. 
the issue lies with the mark design itself
Yes ofc
Did Nw and got sent down twice in a row
dude that took sooo much dmg off my overall
its insane
But how do you loose mark on mists first boss?
can't wait for rogue hero talents rework in 11.2.5 
Droman turns friendly while mark is on him
you apply it on the tree and then he goes poof
if you have the mark on the tree guy
I was playing some other alts and DSM hero talents are worse in a game imo
then just move the mark before it gets to 20%
that's the issue

the mark gameplay consists in simply doing your rotation and keep the mark juggling going
"holding it" goes against it's intended design
dude wth, mark juggling??
if u dont wanna hold it
because the design itself is an incovenience
just get darkest night > envenom the bad guy > back to hitting tree
think you're talking about different marks lmao

juggling might not be the best word. but "loop" might be better.
2min cd
DS is all about getting those big DN envenoms
if u lose mark on first boss mists ur missplaying
if you are holding it, you're getting less DN procs. bit feelsbad
u got cooked
jealousy is ugly on you mr cool
u dont get less DN either
ok im confused, we are talking about deathmark right? I though it was just a 14 se big cd. that we hold for the boss when we can attack him.
oooooh
Just trying to outdo you 
okok, I see
DSM
that makes soooooo much more sense
mark mark death death
DSM and DM
I was soo confused
if u want to use acronyms
but DSM is just reapplyed with full combo point envenom no?
How long does that last?
DSM?
so how do you juggle it?
but just save vanish for little dude and ambush him when he takes damage
u swap it so u dont lose it bc boss dissapears
I mean
u want to vanish for MA anyways
on that boss
when the tree is low i just hold the buff to reapply it to main guy
yes
am i blacking out
!up
re look at your cook u will know its not 😛
I wanna see the zerocookx
What I usually do is ofc attack tree with normal stealth. hold deathmark and vanish, and when tree dude becomes freindly I pop vanisha dn I go all cds on boss
MA?
master assassin
yeah but would it not be correct to vanish when little guy takes the most damage
get MA and reapply mark with ambush?
I am getting confused about this holding the mark talk xD
alright
you hold your 2min cd for dmg amp
You can get lucky DN hits on first boss, I had a 17mil crit yesterday
forget mists 1st boss
Just needless hate
I know it's absolute dog shit, but let a man have some fun in his weekly 10/11 keys okay 
u pop cds
you starting fucking him up as much as you can
he goes always when you have 1 stack of DM still
you have no vanish because reasons
what you do?
F
Do you play WaT? I play supercharger build
since ur hooking him insta anyways
its only purpose is to help you get some extra safety for the eventuality that your entire hero talent becomes completely useless due to its design being annoying
F-U-N
imagine having to play around your hero talent 
tell me 2x vanish is laughable when ur pug tank decides to pull a patrolling blood guard on topp of a stagshell and 2 or 3 webmage
still trapped on kyveza hell
i sim alooot higher with WaT, but I dont feel the need to play, it. I still do phat dmg
but i'm aware
bro
these pug tanks are insane
had a guy in sob
PERMA chaining
i would have a 14 ara kara timed if i had played iron wire in ara kara no cap
1 mob 20% hp
you play sub on most bosses? or just sub on silkran and princess?
i mean, it does t matter
i play Sin on everything
play assa on all
cus bleeds do 0dmg anyway
mby not queen
lime
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you dont need stealth for dmg lol
if you think that, learn assa
for more envenoms
also restealths for MA poggies
but then again it depends on how the chains are done
why do you play MA but no WoT then in dungeons
yeah thee issue is needing to spend 20 globals to apply bleeds to get energy regen mostly
its fok->Rupture
but sure
like Im fine with chaining
20globals
do you not aim to get rupture on 5 mobs?
I mean its like 7 globals instead of 2
yeah its more than FoK rupture
why run MA? if you dont have WaT? I dropped it for another talent
the initial bleed setup is so fast with SBS, imo
the issue is that other classes simply delete things by the time you finish your setup
it is what it is
Yeah in low keys you dont get to do damage as Assa
otherwise u can easily get ur setup done
if youre all over geared
and do big dam
not just keys
even in 10s everything insta dies. But in higher keys you get to do big dam
sin is insanely fun in 14-15s, i have to re-bleed most packs
Even a hella bursty class like DH, has like a 15 gcd opener.
if u dont get to do dam in 10s ur either slow or u have the best dpsers on the planet
if you do low content where shit is dead before you could do 5 manual ruptures
why do you care
lol
You say that, yet i just watched kush have the gatekeeper in the first pull of NW die before his kingsbane ran out in a +17 
everything insta dies in 10s, I get to do big dam. But it just wont last for long
But i also dont do content that low generally
enh shaman in the group moment
to be fair, lust was used xd
that first pull doesnt count XD. that is just some insannnne dmg. + bloodlust
Ye i know im just memeing
if you want dmg in a 10 just do mdi pulls. then packs might, might last a little longer
just get aug
orj ust have the other 2 dps be like 580 ilvl
ez 3M overall in mists
hah
having a semi-decent group that can pull stuff into bosses so you can play around that multi bleed energy factory+funnel dmg fiesta is hella fun
otherwise, it's snoozefest sometimes 😦
those feels when other dps say im going to single target the corruptor packs in GB so the rogue can funnel
🥹
lol its literally the design of those packs
it is.
but people see those health bars and all they can think of is "AOE THEM ALL!!!"
hey fellas I recently started playing rogue assa and I’m looking for a guide anyone got any recommendation
!guides
Assassination Guides:
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Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
That back yummers
then complain to the healer when they destroyed
Thx og
Yeah i mean lower keys its pretty irrelevant but its pretty surprising that people still just smash them in like 13s and 14s
Was kinda annoying i didn't finish all raid bosses up untill queen
Otherwise that mandate would've been hero
Yeah st suuucks hard. That energy starvation
with or without flask 
Without
I honestly can't feel the difference even during Bloodlust
o.o
wtf how much gear do u have
you can buy sockets though
i simmed it and it would be an upgrade
but idk
i don't think its worth spending that much on a hero piece
yes i know
but how much it costs idk if it's worth it
ill see
I mean my 626 pendant sims better than M sikran neck for m+
as it should, since haste isn't that good for aoe
arent sockets like 2k now
Pendant is just straight better no idea why you wouldn't use it
Yea
Thye should be ill go take a look
they were expsnive last time i checked
prollu cheaper
Holy shit
ok nvm
they are less than 2 K
xd
thought there were like 7K or something
thats how much they were last time i checkjed
w/e sims best
but yeah haste is kinda good for ST
I think I have like 11% in ST gear and 3 in m+ 8)
i throw what the robot tells me
sim overlord commands
yeah, I always find it choosing the haste gear tho
hey guys, how much haste should assasination have?
so getting confused for m+
w/e sims best
where the line should go
Tbh stat prio only matters when you get higher ilevel
yeah i dont understand this + from that ring
Do you guys upgrade hero gear to max? Or is it just a waste of crests?
you play DS? DS usually wants more haste/mastery since a big chunk of its dmg comes from guaranteed crits from DN
Go for ilevel
waste imo
so crit has less value for it
Im 626… and im not gaining good ilvl.
It kinda depends.
Like if you’re doing mythic raid it’s definitely a waste because you just natty hit so many slots
depends
I’ve upgraded a bit
But I’m not touching mythic
same with wrists
So I’m at the mercy of my vault
my big question is, is sim always trustworthy for assas picking haste item
depends.
if your mythic gearing comes from the vault only, upgrade stuff to 626. if you do mythic raiding, i never go to 5/6 hero track unless to complete the mythic xmog set
yes?
Why wouldn’t it be
true, i did expect 639 dagger from 626 would be bigger upgrade than 619-639 ring with haste in it, fuck it i go for ring
I do, but its on my dh 😦
Mythic raid
Well offhand is the worst slot there is
It has less stats than bracers even
how easy it is for you to farm gilded crests? i think at this point, we have a very good limit on them that upgrading stuff to 6/6 hero isn't such a waste, imo
Think i need to pug mythic on my rogue sadly
Oh i can easily farm em
it's more "feelsbad" at the beginning of the season
What is a good build for mythic ulgrax
ST build with caustic spatter
Its just stupid that the 619>623 is useless
Thanks friend
Should be up to 623 with hero crests for sure
What is the limit?
900
For season? Or weekly?
Season
Damn, then you gotta save em
What do you do if you hut cap? You just only get gear from mythic raid?
the biggest outlier this season is the cost of crafting for shitty embelishments.
90 crests is just wtf
Nah the crafting cost is fine
especially when going from 1/6 myth to 5/6 myth(636) is 60 crests only
Embellishments should scale with ilvl and be better yes
But being able to craft any piece you want with any stats you want should be less efficient than getting items dropped for you
on the first mythic boss, how many ruptures do you spread on adds untill u start focusing one with caustic?
there's still the timegating of the sparks though
also you can't catalyze crafted gear. another limitation. and it doesn't get to "max ilvl" so its limitations are, imo, fine already
Depends on the aoe of the group. You prob only need 1 to spread caustic. They die pretty quick
Do you just give up on your char if you dont have any more crests and you arent 635
Hey guys. new to rogue here and i have one question. i see most top rogues on raiderio playing skardyn and empowering crystal. i already have the crystal and sacbrood hero track and got spyglass myth track in vault. do i just take spyglass and play it or the others better?
sim does say spyglass but sim also says empowering is the weakest and yet everyone on the top seems to play it
but using ALL of your weekly crests for 1 single craft just feels wrong still. but it's more of an "early season when stuff are limited" thing more than anything, personally
hm, not a few to help with energy?
The previous seasons you had 90% of your non-tier items be crafted, then all the gear you get from the raid of keys are useless
im just trying to log a bit better, i guess the top logs are cheesing somehow
My group has heavy aoe. So I dont get a chance to lol
Crafting should be a slightly ineffective alternative to getting drops, not completely replace getting drops imo
is dslice siming good for rogue?
If I have vest of misshapen hides do I make it into tier set or keep it? since it has crit mastery vs set of vers crit? I have the rest of the tier 4 set so I don't need to use it for that
sim it
I believe they are very similar but idk if someone recommends to go for a bit of verse or just stick with raw dps numbers
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Hello would like to fix weak aura, after how much seconds I can refresh garrot, rupture and tempest please ?
i dont think getting a bit of vers hurts.
but it also depends on what kind of content you're doing and how good are the people your doing it with.
i usually refresh if these fall below 5 sec
I'm kind of new to wow haha, I am trying to push m+ I have done some +11 but I want to go further
it helps that Sin's stats are somewhat balanced. so there isn't a situation like other specs where you're like "damn, this piece has X stat on it, therefore it's trash for me"
didnt embellishments improve with ilvl in dragonflight?
They did
none of them do this time around right?
Some do
The items that you craft that aint optional reagents do
But they suck anyway so 
heh
keeping the complainst aside a bit, the "nerub/toxic" patches that allow you to get the "full benefit" from them despite whatever ilvl they have is such a good feature
Current lining embellishments gives ~750 stats, the one in S4 of dragonflight gave ~1350 
let's to focus on the actual embelishment effect item first and keep the patch on a low prio item
feels very nice early season
at least it's a 80% health threshold instead of 90% 
where'd you get this picture of me
the fuck
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
Can you sim ovinaxx egg somehow with a lot of movement? So I can maybe estimate how good it would be in the worst case or something like that? I feel like the sim might be baiting me a bit.
GG reroll enhance
uh idk why that sent lol
thanks mobile
you have some weird shit on your phone dawg
you know, 1 of the most interesting things in this game, is joining a normal/heroic pug for the raid and watching the talent builds you see
shout out for that 1 assa rogue that runs sudden demise+IC in raid, but without spatter and no DtB
and WoT skilled
with no MA
This is why this guy goes into normal raid and probably has more fun than any of us
for m+ content witch weapon enchant please ? double radiant or 1x depth ?
I think you always double up on which ever you use.
ok thanks
5 ruptures is enough
!fuu
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hey, i am pretty new to assa rouge and I often get energy stuck in single target fights. Anyone with some advices on how to prevent that or is energy pooling a common thing as assa? (ST boss fight in M+ build)
!pooling
Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom
- For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
- For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.
The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.
Expected
"try to stay under 50% as much as possible" - just to get it correctly - this means, i want to be as much as possible between 150 - 300 energy and not 0 -150, correct?
so "generally" i press for 1-2 global nothing to prevent dropping below ~150 energy?
50% is 150 so staying under 50 would be 0-150
ah ok - but in ST my energy reg is pretty low therefore it is "normal" to spend some globals on just waiting for energy
yep, especially in the key build where you have much less energy in st
ok thanks !
anyone got a talents what to use on zekvir lairs "??" difficulty?
cant still manage to kill him
Man’s actually a bf can’t even be mad at him Smdh
Pure st build
can you pls link the import link?
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!design
Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.
- No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
- 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
- You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
looking at how they bitch at eachother rn
holy shit no, they dont have fun lmao
zekvir lairs is just a fucking bullshit
what are u dying to
Now i died after 2 minutes and 30 seconds to enfeebling spittle
So if i have 0 haste Or 5 % is the same basiclly?
i just dont have the cooldown to not take that much of damage from him
im out of evasion, out of vanish out of everything
Is your brann set to healer
yes
Then he should dispel every other
So you'd only need to rotate vanish and cloak for it
Yes
tbh, sometimes he just doesnt
Nah he does it whenever its off cd
should i change somethin?
Its just has a slightly lower cd so if youre not pushing the boss you can end up with one without a dispell ready
and these talents
But pot+vial should deal with it fairly well
like, normaly you do brann dispell first one->cloak 2nd->vanish 3rd->brann dispells the next one again
but, well, sometimes he just doenst dispell and it gets akward 
Depends on when you push him but ye
Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html
thats the best way to use him as a dps
hello do you guys can recomand some specific macros for assasination rogue? i am interested
I dont have the sustain to handle the damage
yeah thats where he comes in with the phials for the clutch
even if u arent geared he just enables u do ?? zekvir etc
!sims
Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html
Nice vault for my 617 ilvl rogue, got the spyglass on heroic track so eeeeeasy skardyn's pick
Was always easy pick
Or sometime you vanish and bran run through the door with him
So with the orb affix this week, I know you can use FoK to build combo points off of them. Can you also use them to get CT on a ST boss?
Yes
im legit out of all cd, vanish cloak and even dispell from brann, what the fuck iam supposed to do
I thought that the uber casuals actually enjoy the game and play whatever they want.. you shattered my dream 😦
Hey it feels like our st is very bad outside of cooldowns so we should always try to have deathmark up for boss right?
NOBODY complains more about loot then a 7/8 Normal guy that has 0 Heroic Clears but plays for 15years now
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bdNkH511bVii9XM8eMPj43
Any reason shiv is not casted in the kb window and instead used in the opener? on the sample sequence
so im very confused.

So the cloak from rashan it just makes you more tanky after taking the appropriate amount of dmg right?
Word
The tankiness proc is not particularly strong
I got the mythic one in my vault yesterday...didn't think I messed up taking it lol
But its better than nothing 
watch a yt guide and play through the mechanics.U dont have to press an immunity or evasion and facetank,not how it works
bc it procs after the damage
u save ur cds for when they are trully needed and play through the fight
I have a couple pieces with avoidance on it so I guess it works out lol
how much of a gain is 4 set from 2 set again?
Guys when i am in stealth and i need to dot mutiple target in opener sometime i have diffculty finding my first target that i ambush for the mark to bursdt it i find my self slow
any tips ?
sounds like u need better plates
somethign like 2.8 and close to 4% but u should sim
Did someone @ me in here? I cannot find the ping
take double vanish
!fuu
the plater i use it one of the 2 plate that this channel linked and it suited me best one of the thing it dose amazing is that health bar become green on the target that have Caustic spatter i wish that mark have the same thing that is clear to see like arrow arou nd health bar
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
Setup your nameplates in a way where its easy to see which target has your mark/spatter on it or dont bother swapping targets to begin with
can i do that without changing the whole plater
who else?
should be able to swap color if target has mark on it no?
Did not realize I can search mentions lol
try this set, kick the heal, let brann cleanse the first spit
I just tried to do my GB 10, after the dungeon started the pally tank said "Gonna do small pulls due to easy timer"
When in doubt.. just blame quake
We didn't time and my 11 GB has now turned into a 9 siege after two failed runs
I love this game
sometime i dont switch target but i need to learn to siwtch target if i want to be better . for 5 target yes i just stick to the same but for 6+ it better to switch so i think it better to adjust the plater . the best way i think is that i manlly let plater put arrow around the target that have mark . going to learn how to do that unless there is a scripet i can copy paste
i wanted to know how you guys do it
easiest fix is get comfortable with mouse over garrote rupture
Technically its better to swap targets yes, but if it ever causes you to lose your main target for a bit its not worth it
The gain is really small to dot different things
Isnt tricks better?
also little outdated no?
oh ya now that you mention it i wanted to talk about that . yes i do dots and kick mouse over but i am not 100% comfortable on it yet . sometime the health bar keep moving around back and forth even when the tank standing still . is there a way to make them more static and on place so i dont kick/dot wrong target which happened to me before
For kicks id just recommend to get used to setting a focus and using a focuskick
And organize the focus cast bar in way thats very easy to see and react to
theres not really a need to tricks brann imo
good advice i will start doing that . how do you focuse you have addon that set target focuse with one click ?
u just kinda tank zekvir and pick up potions until zek gets into his cast loop
in which case he just stops autoing you
Default blizzard ui has a bind for it
Just bind that
and you just do back to back mechanics for the rest of the fight
thanks i will do that . i will also see if there discord for plater i feal that if i learn the addon there is alot of thing i will be able to do
hello fellow rogue friends..the sims says to take the helm with socket and catalyst it into tier set, in both ST and dungeon slice..but i think spyglass is too good to pass, for both raid and m+ content
!bugs
Rogue Bug tracker: https://github.com/SimCMinMax/WoW-BugTracker/labels/Rogue
Bar should only move if mobs are moving or your moving.
So everyone just needs to be still
I take sac or spyglass in this, its way easier to get a socketed helm then M+ trinket
i dont understand what subterfuge does for us. does it just extend carnage in keys?
It extends carnage, improved garrotte and master assassin
that was my thought, just didn't know how good is spyglass in m+



