#assassination

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final star
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that's 6 whole combo points

edgy cloak
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Okay. I went to org target dummies and now I'm not getting full cp. Ty!

subtle tundra
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and if it crits

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it gives more!

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WOAH

final star
autumn remnant
shy quest
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sometimes my mark is not proccing even tho i use 5+ combo points
am i doing something wrong?

subtle tundra
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!mark

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nope doesnt work

warm vortex
subtle tundra
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i swear there was a command...

warm vortex
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At the least

solar wyvern
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You finishing on your marked target bruv

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?

last skiff
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
shy quest
warm vortex
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Idk someoentime it doesn’t work for me

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And by sometimes

subtle tundra
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bugged

warm vortex
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I mean specifically on the third boss of GB

solar wyvern
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Is it because you have DN up?

warm vortex
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Sometimes phase 1 butch just ignores me finishing on 5

iron carbon
warm vortex
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Idk why it’s always only that fight

iron carbon
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Maybe dps diff isn't big enough to bother with different rules

subtle tundra
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cause you start with ambush and have darkest night up

edgy cloak
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Onto the next question. Should I aim to have full CP before going into my cooldown sequence?

shy quest
solar wyvern
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And bleeds ofc

warm vortex
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I feel like an idiot

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Cause I am

subtle tundra
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!

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wise words

solar wyvern
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Dw I didn't know that crippling poison was a dps increase until 3 days ago

subtle tundra
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🤯

solar wyvern
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Reading talents? Nah

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Copy paste

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Whatevers meta

solar wyvern
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This gif

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I like it

fleet turtle
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
warm vortex
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Or am I dumb

solar wyvern
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Yeah

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And yeah

warm vortex
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Ok good

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And ok good

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Bro

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I’ve said this before

blazing pumice
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is there tech for high sieges

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as rogue

warm vortex
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Don’t die

blazing pumice
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we timed the 15 but it seems like the strat is just save brez for last boss

solar wyvern
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If you have both steps you can quickly double bleed both tentacles

royal lantern
solar wyvern
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^

blazing pumice
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😦

solar wyvern
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Dwarf one

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Cloak another

blazing pumice
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pretty shit mechanic

solar wyvern
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Feint evasion healthpot one more

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Pray

warm vortex
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100%

royal lantern
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just play dk as blizzard intended

warm vortex
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Imo at least

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Also hi Tyran

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Things going well!m?

blazing pumice
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i went to about 1% hp with evasion and feint up

solar wyvern
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Tell your enh shaman to healing surge you

warm vortex
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Tyran in bed without a bear

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That’s must not be him

warm vortex
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It was a pug to

arctic socket
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Ask for sac from your prot pally

normal mist
blazing pumice
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we run prot war/ret/resto shaman/misc LUL

normal mist
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Hello to you too vendeten

warm vortex
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Hi Royal

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Fuck off

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You beat me to it

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XD

normal mist
simple imp
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quick question how do i socket my gear am i just go Mastery/Crit all? or do i need every Color of Gems cause of blasphemite... (whatever that means) 😄

warm vortex
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How’s it going either way

warm vortex
normal mist
warm vortex
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Personally I’m running the 4 colours and then just using crit mast

warm vortex
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I am also in uni lecture so not much to do

normal mist
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Doing amazing so far, I hate work today but it's all going well honestly

warm vortex
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As Wednesday I have to get to uni, stay for an hou, leave

rich elbow
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Trail spinner or emergency stop keychain? what are we saying

warm vortex
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Vault went well

warm vortex
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But it depends on

normal mist
warm vortex
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Your stats, your ilevel, what gear ect

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So there isn’t a definitive answer

warm vortex
normal mist
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I was already singing that since I woke up

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Also

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Vendeten

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Check my best prediction so far

iron carbon
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Is he really going to eat pasta?

warm vortex
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Is it something basic like toast

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Or food

normal mist
warm vortex
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This is the one that always puts smth in my head

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There was this one video that randomly auto played of a Nokia ringtone with this image as a backdrop

warm vortex
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WAIT

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It was this lmao

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Found it

normal mist
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Ahahahahahahah

warm vortex
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It’s genuinely a bop

coral ibex
warm vortex
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He on the phone

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Who he calling

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(Subterfuge hater most likely)

coral ibex
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you

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he wants to say Gm

warm vortex
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Goodest of mornings :0

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But yea sub how’s it going

blazing warren
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Does the auto Garrote/Rupture prioritise targets without the debuff?

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If there is 5 targets and i use Garrote from Stealth 2 times while having the same target, will all 5 mobs 100% get it?

warm vortex
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Yes

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There’s a command I think

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Hold on

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!IC

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No that’s not it

blazing warren
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!ig

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!IG

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Welp

warm vortex
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But yea

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It prio targets w/o it

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So for 5 targets you can stay on the main one

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For 6 you would wanna swap

blazing warren
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Sweet

warm vortex
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Yea

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Your bleeds somehow have a higher Iq than pets

grim tree
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
warm vortex
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Actually I used help I wonder what this command says

subtle tundra
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!carnage

prisma monolithBOT
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Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

  • The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
  • You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

subtle tundra
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woah!

warm vortex
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Fuck off

subtle tundra
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🍥

warm vortex
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Jk love you

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I remember when

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!stealth

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!restealth

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Or whatever it was

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Was giving people an aneurism in pugs

subtle tundra
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i need to give my team the seal of approval for chaining

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mostly denied

lost wharf
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My sim says Ovi trinket, but wowhead says spyglass would be bis. I am confusion 😦

woven shore
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Anyone here with Mythic Kyveza experience?

lost wharf
subtle tundra
subtle tundra
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gg

warm vortex
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Because you can upgrade them both to same level

woven shore
warm vortex
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And maybe the extra dps is from Egg being higher

lost wharf
woven shore
royal lantern
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thats all

subtle tundra
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yes ovinax is not recommended cause its annoying to play with

warm vortex
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Or be like that one dude

subtle tundra
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its better

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but annoying

warm vortex
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Saying feint is bad is kyvez

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Ik that was a bit ago

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But it’s still brain boggling

lost wharf
woven shore
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Feint twice?

woven shore
subtle tundra
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you even feint 3 times in intermission

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based on rng

lost wharf
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Coz you don't explode then and you can do more dmg

woven shore
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Or feint once and then evasion last 10sec

subtle tundra
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you feint every time you have a line

woven shore
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Ah

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When have a line okay

woven shore
final star
royal lantern
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feint on line, evasion when its at 10sec left cus evasion is 10sec and it helps a bit

final star
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15s of coverage vs wasted duration during cloak

royal lantern
warm vortex
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Im gonna try and remember this when/if we get to ky

final star
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if you don't get charges*

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plan for both can't go wrong

royal lantern
woven shore
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We are on kyveza on thursday

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Cant wait

final star
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if you don't get lines p1, you're cloaking intermissions

subtle tundra
warm vortex
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My next boss prog on mythic is rashnan
But we gotta get sikran down consistently first

final star
woven shore
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But cloak what on intermission

warm vortex
woven shore
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Last lines?

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Or when u get lines

royal lantern
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my brain can handle one (1, a singular amount) of cd assingments, im not gonna change them midpull cus i dont get the mechanic dracthyr_kek

royal lantern
woven shore
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Tryan said feint when get lines

subtle tundra
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both are ok

royal lantern
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yes, lines and charge is 2 different things

woven shore
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So better cloak first line huh?

subtle tundra
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if you care about prog only -> cloak intermissions

lost wharf
woven shore
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So u have it up earlier

warm vortex
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What’s harder in your guys’ opinion btw

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Broodmom or kyvez

subtle tundra
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to stop thinking of whispyr...

royal lantern
subtle tundra
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considering you havent even killed rashana... its gonna be rough af either one

royal lantern
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but we progressed kyveza really fucking fast

woven shore
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Ovinax was pain in the ass

final star
lost wharf
woven shore
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I hope we wont have problems with kyveza

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Ovi took long enough Xd

subtle tundra
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you will

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its a guarantee

woven shore
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631 avrg

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We have very good players

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Whats the hard thing about kyveza?

subtle tundra
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ilvl doesnt mean shit if they cant move correctly

viral spire
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People not being able to tell left vs right is going to be an issue, you would be surprised

subtle tundra
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and dont use defensives

warm vortex
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True

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Anyone here killed mythic queen btw?

woven shore
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With charges?

viral spire
warm vortex
viral spire
woven shore
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Lol

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Isnt this easy?

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😂

viral spire
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You would be surprised lol

woven shore
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I hope i parse better on kyveza than ovinax

viral spire
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Just watch KekL

woven shore
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53 on ovi is so bad

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😭

warm vortex
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Tbh

golden loom
warm vortex
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Those people that can’t tell left from right are still 100x smarter than the people that come to the leasure centre I work at

woven shore
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I dont want to do Mythic plus

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😡

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Fucking hate mythic plus for These fucking currency

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Always Tyrannic is so bullshit

warm vortex
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I find it fun
The 15sec on death is what can fuck off

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And for the crests spamming 8s is fine imo

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Just some chill runs :D

subtle tundra
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logically speaking

warm vortex
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Also going 8s won’t give you both no?

subtle tundra
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they are there to create a sense of difficulty progression for lower keys

warm vortex
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Yea

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Still the 15 sec on death can fuck off

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I hate it so much

golden loom
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only dislike I have with m+ is that I have done so little of it cause the biggest problem is getting into groups

warm vortex
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Yea

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And when you do it’s full of idiot morons

golden loom
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timed my first +10 yesterday tho (done completions for vault before but that was just wipe city) and it felt pretty good 😄

warm vortex
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Fair

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Rn I’ve done 10 on all

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Wanna push but I get super unhappy when I do it

golden loom
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but comparing queing for M+ to raid where I get in instant feels weird

warm vortex
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Fair I barely queue for raids cause I normally do it all with guild

golden loom
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dont have a guild atm so its just all pugging so my progression ends on reset day with heroic reclear + 3/8m usually 😄

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the mythic raid locking feels kinda stinky but ofc makes sense to prevent boosts and what not

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but for pugging it feels kinda bad when you kill ulgrax and then you have to hope the people in the group have time to keep playing

lofty dawn
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is 639 transmitter better than 626 skardyn's grace?

lofty dawn
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alright

arctic socket
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If you don’t mind the mini game

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It’s better than a 639 skardyns

lofty dawn
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so its just the mini game that makes it "bad"?

arctic socket
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If you hate the mini game use the 626 skardyns

arctic socket
lofty dawn
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alright

arctic socket
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Not rly bad just rly annoying to use

lofty dawn
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yeah

arctic socket
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And sometimes can put you in weird situations where you die

viral spire
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You like the minigame? PogO

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Transmitter can suck my balls

arctic socket
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I hated branch

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I definitely hate this one

viral spire
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Tbf the only time transmitter is useful is when you have the last weeks affix which reduces cds and you are doing lower than 12 keys therefore your skardyn is never back up for deathmark but transmitter is

arctic socket
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Well transmitter does sim higher and makes you have a strong burst

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Like 15k agi pretty strong

late surge
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weak

subtle tundra
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It sims worse for m+

late surge
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need atleast 20

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it does?

coral ibex
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mythic lockout is bad !

arctic socket
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I wanna just buy the necklace

tawny geyser
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Why some people pref to play Sub on Mythic Silken? What's up with that? Any special benefits or?

umbral sierra
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have a alt go in get lock out, load up raid at that boss. leave log in on other toon kill boss. log out make new raid group log in load up save point. have last group zone in on u log out swap log in kill boss

past panther
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Or literally 65% of the other bosses this fucking season

arctic socket
past panther
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I miss the old acrobatic strikes SO bad man fuck these giant botched BBL bosses like Queen and some of the dungeon bosses like the last one of Mists.

umbral sierra
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acrobatic strikes?

viral spire
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You’d think they would learn

half roost
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someone linked a plater thingy which makes the nameplate glow purple for deathstalker's mark, can't find it... anyone can help me out?

viral spire
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Likely a script

frigid pilot
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ovinax adds r literally aids if tanks arent tanking them on the boss

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devastation and dk r stealin all the add dmg PepeHands

merry bison
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THE WAR

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IS

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OVER

restive falcon
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The war has just begun you mean

subtle tundra
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within us

frigid pilot
merry bison
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its aight

prisma monolithBOT
normal mist
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Whispyr one does what you said

warm shard
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guild is progging mythic Ovi'nax, anyone have any useful advice for dodging Vile Discharge (swirlies), do any of you just decide to run out of melee range if it gets crazy?

coral ibex
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well dying is a bigger dps loss than losing a global to live

calm quartz
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ideally which tier set item out of the 5 you would want replaced by a better item?

tired gull
winged widget
coral ibex
winged widget
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save cloak for when you have to break egg and you see a bunch of swirlies coming at you and you cant move or you will miss the break. happens more than it should.

lavish geyser
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How do you know when to go alchemical or mastery flask or crit flask, in m+?

warm shard
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alrighty sounds like the soluution is just to hop off boss, my guild is running 8-9 melee plus 3 tanks so it feels very congested

restive falcon
coral ibex
restive falcon
winged widget
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Other people (more competent people, btw), already said this on this discord and I tend to agree. If you are on the point where you need to ask "what flask is best?" (usually because you saw some streamer or other top end player using something different from the guide), it often means you're still on the lvl of the spec where you are better off doing the "default guide pick" instead of trying to min max without actually knowing what you're min maxxing or not.

lavish geyser
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well idk im getting into 13s (after a week on the char) now. and I do pretty well on spec. ofc there is still lots to learn. I just didnt have knowledge on consumes. I ran alchemical, then I saw zerocool run mastery, and I was a bit confused. so I asked in here.

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Did he just sim every single pot?

lavish geyser
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haha

winged widget
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xD

final star
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alchemical chaos gives more stats when you pot

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😄

lavish geyser
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I actually havent done it with mastery flask tbh

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But I was just curious.

coral ibex
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it’s always a “i watched someone do x”

winged widget
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who knows

coral ibex
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maybe he just felt like it

lavish geyser
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I mean im broke as well. I just run tier 2 flasks

narrow siren
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are yall putting damage pot into deathmark macro in keys?

coral ibex
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if you ask him he will probably say something like it doesn’t matter just use what the guide says anyway

final star
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that's not quite right there

lavish geyser
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I mean I used vers in alot of my dungeons just cause I had em from when I was outlaw,

winged widget
coral ibex
final star
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I like choosing where I pot

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But I like having agency

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I wish we could choose between auto tea and only cast tea

narrow siren
wooden otter
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guys, TtK or Sudden Demise for m+?

winged widget
final star
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the one you like more

molten echo
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How long is a rope?

final star
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all these talents are basically all equal

wooden otter
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ok ty

final star
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so choose w/e you want

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as long as you get the baseline good talents, can't go wrong

wooden otter
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i like the animation of Sudden Demise more, mobs random exploding

final star
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like don't do this

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Surely it's bad right

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surely

lavish geyser
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no IW?

final star
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iron wire isn't required in like

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5/8 keys

coral ibex
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oh brother

final star
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I'm just cooking

wooden otter
winged widget
final star
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THey hate me cos they ain't me

lavish geyser
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why are you doing 5's?

final star
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5 out of 8

wooden otter
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copy pasta from murlok.io but ttk and SD are like 50/50

final star
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not +5

lavish geyser
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Is big QoL

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and good for pugs

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very good for pugs.

final star
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100pp

lavish geyser
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if you dont pug you dont need it

winged widget
final star
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If you want to know lack of control

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give disc priest a try

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😄

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I've never wanted a kick more

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at first you're like, this is so nice not having to worry about using kick

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then you thirst for it

regal linden
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anyone tried this? sd oriented just for lower keyskekdog

winged widget
final star
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I cooked

lavish geyser
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idk I lowe iw

winged widget
final star
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Rogue alt so only 622 in a mists

lavish geyser
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mists is a nice key

subtle tundra
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👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨

final star
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You could straight up go any troll talents

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and do 2M+ overall easy

lavish geyser
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You can easily drop Iw in mists

final star
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yeah there's like 1 kick a pack

winged widget
lavish geyser
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I just pop my stuff n go

winged widget
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or necrotic wake losing mark to the 3rd boss, or putting it on the final boss and being sent down with no vanish to re-apply it.
or any other instance where you need to track that mark shit with any mechanic that might fuck it up. besad

autumn flower
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All stuff turning «friendly» needs to be fixed

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Its so annoying

winged widget
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the issue lies with the mark design itself

autumn flower
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Yes ofc

lavish geyser
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Did Nw and got sent down twice in a row

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dude that took sooo much dmg off my overall

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its insane

lavish geyser
winged widget
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can't wait for rogue hero talents rework in 11.2.5 Surebud

spice spire
wet briar
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you apply it on the tree and then he goes poof

winged widget
hot fulcrum
winged widget
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he becomes friendly

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and you lose mark

lavish geyser
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I hold it

final star
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then just move the mark before it gets to 20%

winged widget
final star
winged widget
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the mark gameplay consists in simply doing your rotation and keep the mark juggling going

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"holding it" goes against it's intended design

late surge
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if u dont wanna hold it

winged widget
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because the design itself is an incovenience

late surge
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send it on small guy

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if tree is low

final star
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just get darkest night > envenom the bad guy > back to hitting tree

wet briar
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think you're talking about different marks lmao

final star
lavish geyser
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it will transfer?

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Death mark?

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big

winged widget
lavish geyser
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2min cd

winged widget
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DS is all about getting those big DN envenoms

late surge
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if u lose mark on first boss mists ur missplaying

winged widget
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if you are holding it, you're getting less DN procs. bit feelsbad

misty kernel
late surge
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???

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if u hold it so u dont lose it

final star
late surge
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u dont get less DN either

lavish geyser
late surge
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no

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the hero talent

lavish geyser
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oooooh

final star
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Just trying to outdo you chefsKiss

lavish geyser
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okok, I see

wet wharf
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DSM

winged widget
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thats another annoying thing

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deathstalker mark

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deathmark

lavish geyser
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that makes soooooo much more sense

winged widget
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mark mark death death

late surge
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DSM and DM

lavish geyser
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I was soo confused

late surge
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if u want to use acronyms

wet wharf
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but DSM is just reapplyed with full combo point envenom no?

lavish geyser
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How long does that last?

late surge
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yes

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if u have DN up

lavish geyser
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DSM?

late surge
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a minute

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or until u proc it 3 times

lavish geyser
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so how do you juggle it?

wet wharf
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but just save vanish for little dude and ambush him when he takes damage

late surge
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u swap it so u dont lose it bc boss dissapears

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I mean

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u want to vanish for MA anyways

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on that boss

lethal turtle
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when the tree is low i just hold the buff to reapply it to main guy

late surge
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yes

lethal turtle
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am i blacking out

fringe oxide
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!up

late surge
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the DN buff is also big burst

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for small boy in dmg phase

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so

misty kernel
late surge
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I wanna see the zerocookx

lavish geyser
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What I usually do is ofc attack tree with normal stealth. hold deathmark and vanish, and when tree dude becomes freindly I pop vanisha dn I go all cds on boss

wet wharf
late surge
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master assassin

wet wharf
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yeah but would it not be correct to vanish when little guy takes the most damage

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get MA and reapply mark with ambush?

late surge
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thats what I said

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u vanish for MA anyways during dmg phase

wet wharf
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yeah

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I follow you

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so the mark will never be a problem anyways

late surge
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no

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but DN is big dam

wet wharf
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I am getting confused about this holding the mark talk xD

late surge
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hodling mark = big dam DN

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= faster boss kill

winged widget
lethal turtle
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you hold your 2min cd for dmg amp

restive falcon
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You can get lucky DN hits on first boss, I had a 17mil crit yesterday

winged widget
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forget mists 1st boss

final star
winged widget
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let's talk about NW surgeon

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fucker comes down

late surge
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u pop cds

winged widget
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you starting fucking him up as much as you can

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he goes always when you have 1 stack of DM still

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you have no vanish because reasons

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what you do?

restive falcon
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F

lavish geyser
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Do you play WaT? I play supercharger build

winged widget
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of course not

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2nd vanish charge is laughable talent

late surge
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u look at timers

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and u dont send DN if hes going up

lavish geyser
#

Idk I sim like 90k overall better with 2x vanish

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I dont play it

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but still

late surge
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since ur hooking him insta anyways

winged widget
#

its only purpose is to help you get some extra safety for the eventuality that your entire hero talent becomes completely useless due to its design being annoying

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F-U-N

late surge
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bro u can always play around it

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have u done court mythic yet

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mr doggo

worldly sail
#

imagine having to play around your hero talent ICANT

narrow siren
#

tell me 2x vanish is laughable when ur pug tank decides to pull a patrolling blood guard on topp of a stagshell and 2 or 3 webmage

winged widget
#

still trapped on kyveza hell

lavish geyser
#

i sim alooot higher with WaT, but I dont feel the need to play, it. I still do phat dmg

winged widget
#

but i'm aware

late surge
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otherwise play fatebound

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and ignore

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if u dont like DSM

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just play fatebound

late surge
#

these pug tanks are insane

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had a guy in sob

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PERMA chaining

narrow siren
#

i would have a 14 ara kara timed if i had played iron wire in ara kara no cap

late surge
#

1 mob 20% hp

lavish geyser
winged widget
late surge
#

play assa on all

royal lantern
#

cus bleeds do 0dmg anyway

late surge
#

mby not queen

royal lantern
#

lime

grim tree
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
royal lantern
#

you dont need stealth for dmg lol

late surge
#

I mean yeah but

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rup energy

royal lantern
#

if you think that, learn assa

late surge
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for more envenoms

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also restealths for MA poggies

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but then again it depends on how the chains are done

royal lantern
#

why do you play MA but no WoT then in dungeons

quaint depot
#

yeah thee issue is needing to spend 20 globals to apply bleeds to get energy regen mostly

late surge
#

like Im fine with chaining

royal lantern
#

20globals

late surge
#

if its not

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when its 1 mob

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on

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20% left

quaint depot
#

do you not aim to get rupture on 5 mobs?

late surge
#

I mean its like 7 globals instead of 2

quaint depot
#

yeah its more than FoK rupture

lavish geyser
#

why run MA? if you dont have WaT? I dropped it for another talent

winged widget
#

the initial bleed setup is so fast with SBS, imo

lavish geyser
#

sangunine something

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I think

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its called

winged widget
#

the issue is that other classes simply delete things by the time you finish your setup

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it is what it is

late surge
#

what keys u doing?

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below 10?

quaint depot
#

Yeah in low keys you dont get to do damage as Assa

late surge
#

otherwise u can easily get ur setup done

quaint depot
#

if youre all over geared

late surge
#

and do big dam

winged widget
#

not just keys

lavish geyser
#

even in 10s everything insta dies. But in higher keys you get to do big dam

late surge
#

just play with aug in 10s

winged widget
#

true

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but

nova aspen
#

sin is insanely fun in 14-15s, i have to re-bleed most packs

late surge
#

also 10s are fine

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idk

lavish geyser
#

Even a hella bursty class like DH, has like a 15 gcd opener.

late surge
#

if u dont get to do dam in 10s ur either slow or u have the best dpsers on the planet

royal lantern
#

why do you care

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lol

spice surge
quaint depot
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I dont care

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lol

lavish geyser
#

everything insta dies in 10s, I get to do big dam. But it just wont last for long

quaint depot
#

But i also dont do content that low generally

royal lantern
lavish geyser
spice surge
#

Ye i know im just memeing

lavish geyser
#

if you want dmg in a 10 just do mdi pulls. then packs might, might last a little longer

late surge
#

just get aug

quaint depot
#

orj ust have the other 2 dps be like 580 ilvl

late surge
#

ez 3M overall in mists

lavish geyser
#

hah

winged widget
#

having a semi-decent group that can pull stuff into bosses so you can play around that multi bleed energy factory+funnel dmg fiesta is hella fun

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otherwise, it's snoozefest sometimes 😦

nova aspen
#

those feels when other dps say im going to single target the corruptor packs in GB so the rogue can funnel

#

🥹

quaint depot
#

lol its literally the design of those packs

winged widget
radiant holly
#

hey fellas I recently started playing rogue assa and I’m looking for a guide anyone got any recommendation

vivid mulch
spice surge
#

!guides

vivid mulch
#

That back yummers

winged widget
#

then complain to the healer when they destroyed

radiant holly
quaint depot
#

Yeah i mean lower keys its pretty irrelevant but its pretty surprising that people still just smash them in like 13s and 14s

vivid mulch
#

Otherwise that mandate would've been hero

lavish geyser
warm vortex
#

Having

#

this much haste feels like a war crime

late surge
#

with or without flask monkahmm

warm vortex
#

Without

winged widget
vivid mulch
late surge
#

wtf how much gear do u have

warm vortex
#

Tbf
i could use my tail pendant

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But my sikran neck is socketed

vivid mulch
#

me?

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611 kekL

winged widget
warm vortex
#

i simmed it and it would be an upgrade
but idk
i don't think its worth spending that much on a hero piece

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yes i know

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but how much it costs idk if it's worth it

#

ill see

late surge
#

I mean my 626 pendant sims better than M sikran neck for m+

winged widget
#

as it should, since haste isn't that good for aoe

late surge
#

arent sockets like 2k now

austere ridge
#

Pendant is just straight better no idea why you wouldn't use it

warm vortex
#

Yea

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Thye should be ill go take a look

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they were expsnive last time i checked

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prollu cheaper

#

Holy shit

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ok nvm

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they are less than 2 K

late surge
#

xd

warm vortex
#

thought there were like 7K or something

#

thats how much they were last time i checkjed

wet wharf
#

do you guys throw on more haste gear when raiding?

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or stick to Crit/Mastery

late surge
#

w/e sims best

#

but yeah haste is kinda good for ST

#

I think I have like 11% in ST gear and 3 in m+ 8)

warm vortex
#

Much better

latent ruin
#

lul

winged widget
#

sim overlord commands

late surge
#

the robot is coded by smart ppl

#

I trust the robot

wet wharf
#

yeah, I always find it choosing the haste gear tho

burnt solar
#

hey guys, how much haste should assasination have?

wet wharf
#

so getting confused for m+

late surge
wet wharf
#

where the line should go

late surge
#

🙂

#

oh m+

#

haste is kinda mid

warm vortex
#

Tbh stat prio only matters when you get higher ilevel

burnt solar
#

yeah i dont understand this + from that ring

lavish geyser
#

Do you guys upgrade hero gear to max? Or is it just a waste of crests?

winged widget
warm vortex
#

Go for ilevel

winged widget
#

so crit has less value for it

lavish geyser
spice spire
#

It kinda depends.
Like if you’re doing mythic raid it’s definitely a waste because you just natty hit so many slots

late surge
spice spire
#

I’ve upgraded a bit

late surge
#

I upgraded my rings

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bc I didnt get any myth track rings

spice spire
#

But I’m not touching mythic

late surge
#

same with wrists

spice spire
#

So I’m at the mercy of my vault

burnt solar
#

my big question is, is sim always trustworthy for assas picking haste item

winged widget
late surge
#

yes?

burnt solar
#

true, i did expect 639 dagger from 626 would be bigger upgrade than 619-639 ring with haste in it, fuck it i go for ring

lavish geyser
#

Mythic raid

winged sun
#

hi

#

i have a new cat pfp

#

do u guys like

#

?

spice surge
#

It has less stats than bracers even

winged widget
lavish geyser
#

Oh i can easily farm em

winged widget
#

it's more "feelsbad" at the beginning of the season

crimson gust
#

What is a good build for mythic ulgrax

winged widget
spice surge
crimson gust
spice surge
#

Should be up to 623 with hero crests for sure

spice surge
#

900

lavish geyser
#

For season? Or weekly?

spice surge
#

Season

lavish geyser
#

Damn, then you gotta save em

#

What do you do if you hut cap? You just only get gear from mythic raid?

winged widget
spice surge
#

Nah the crafting cost is fine

winged widget
#

especially when going from 1/6 myth to 5/6 myth(636) is 60 crests only

spice surge
#

Embellishments should scale with ilvl and be better yes

#

But being able to craft any piece you want with any stats you want should be less efficient than getting items dropped for you

zealous wolf
#

on the first mythic boss, how many ruptures do you spread on adds untill u start focusing one with caustic?

winged widget
#

also you can't catalyze crafted gear. another limitation. and it doesn't get to "max ilvl" so its limitations are, imo, fine already

pure moth
lavish geyser
#

Do you just give up on your char if you dont have any more crests and you arent 635

warm vessel
#

Hey guys. new to rogue here and i have one question. i see most top rogues on raiderio playing skardyn and empowering crystal. i already have the crystal and sacbrood hero track and got spyglass myth track in vault. do i just take spyglass and play it or the others better?

#

sim does say spyglass but sim also says empowering is the weakest and yet everyone on the top seems to play it

winged widget
#

but using ALL of your weekly crests for 1 single craft just feels wrong still. but it's more of an "early season when stuff are limited" thing more than anything, personally

zealous wolf
spice surge
#

The previous seasons you had 90% of your non-tier items be crafted, then all the gear you get from the raid of keys are useless

coral ibex
#

bc it sims better for them

#

that’s likely why they use it

zealous wolf
#

im just trying to log a bit better, i guess the top logs are cheesing somehow

pure moth
spice surge
#

Crafting should be a slightly ineffective alternative to getting drops, not completely replace getting drops imo

warm vessel
#

is dslice siming good for rogue?

foggy mirage
#

If I have vest of misshapen hides do I make it into tier set or keep it? since it has crit mastery vs set of vers crit? I have the rest of the tier 4 set so I don't need to use it for that

foggy mirage
#

I believe they are very similar but idk if someone recommends to go for a bit of verse or just stick with raw dps numbers

ivory ice
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
inland sable
#

Hello would like to fix weak aura, after how much seconds I can refresh garrot, rupture and tempest please ?

winged widget
kindred nimbus
foggy mirage
#

I'm kind of new to wow haha, I am trying to push m+ I have done some +11 but I want to go further

winged widget
#

it helps that Sin's stats are somewhat balanced. so there isn't a situation like other specs where you're like "damn, this piece has X stat on it, therefore it's trash for me"

brave comet
#

didnt embellishments improve with ilvl in dragonflight?

spice surge
#

They did

brave comet
#

none of them do this time around right?

spice surge
#

Some do

#

The items that you craft that aint optional reagents do

#

But they suck anyway so shrugeg

brave comet
#

heh

winged widget
#

keeping the complainst aside a bit, the "nerub/toxic" patches that allow you to get the "full benefit" from them despite whatever ilvl they have is such a good feature

spice surge
#

Current lining embellishments gives ~750 stats, the one in S4 of dragonflight gave ~1350 Cheesin

winged widget
#

let's to focus on the actual embelishment effect item first and keep the patch on a low prio item

#

feels very nice early season

winged widget
royal lantern
#

guys

#

im not at 34% crit anymore

late surge
#

gee gee

#

unplayable

slate crown
#

the fuck

real pike
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
lost wharf
#

Can you sim ovinaxx egg somehow with a lot of movement? So I can maybe estimate how good it would be in the worst case or something like that? I feel like the sim might be baiting me a bit.

coral ibex
#

uh idk why that sent lol

#

thanks mobile

stray adder
#

you have some weird shit on your phone dawg

royal lantern
#

you know, 1 of the most interesting things in this game, is joining a normal/heroic pug for the raid and watching the talent builds you see

#

shout out for that 1 assa rogue that runs sudden demise+IC in raid, but without spatter and no DtB

#

and WoT skilled

#

with no MA

final dawn
#

This is why this guy goes into normal raid and probably has more fun than any of us

inland sable
#

for m+ content witch weapon enchant please ? double radiant or 1x depth ?

strange python
#

I think you always double up on which ever you use.

inland sable
#

ok thanks

wild thorn
#

in m+ is 6 bleeds enough

#

before starting to cleave

#

with caustic

sudden hound
#

5 ruptures is enough

crisp stream
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
jolly citrus
#

hey, i am pretty new to assa rouge and I often get energy stuck in single target fights. Anyone with some advices on how to prevent that or is energy pooling a common thing as assa? (ST boss fight in M+ build)

final dawn
#

!pooling

prisma monolithBOT
#

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom

  • For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
  • For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

oak tangle
#

Expected

jolly citrus
#

"try to stay under 50% as much as possible" - just to get it correctly - this means, i want to be as much as possible between 150 - 300 energy and not 0 -150, correct?

#

so "generally" i press for 1-2 global nothing to prevent dropping below ~150 energy?

fresh kelp
royal lantern
#

thats your brain on weeb shit

#

go outside pleasse

jolly citrus
fresh kelp
jolly citrus
#

ok thanks !

drowsy geyser
#

anyone got a talents what to use on zekvir lairs "??" difficulty?

#

cant still manage to kill him

spice spire
#

Man’s actually a bf can’t even be mad at him Smdh

drowsy geyser
spice spire
#

CMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMzMzMMmx2MAAAAAAMbwyMAAAAAA022MzgZGjZmZZ2mZmxAjZmZGzsZbMDwmZZgBsEsMMBGWA

drowsy geyser
#

im 629 ilvl almost and i just cant do it as assa

#

brann as heal

prisma monolithBOT
#

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

  • No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
  • 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
  • You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
royal lantern
#

holy shit no, they dont have fun lmao

drowsy geyser
#

zekvir lairs is just a fucking bullshit

lethal arrow
drowsy geyser
#

Now i died after 2 minutes and 30 seconds to enfeebling spittle

fading stump
#

So if i have 0 haste Or 5 % is the same basiclly?

drowsy geyser
#

i just dont have the cooldown to not take that much of damage from him

#

im out of evasion, out of vanish out of everything

spice surge
#

Is your brann set to healer

drowsy geyser
#

yes

spice surge
#

Then he should dispel every other

#

So you'd only need to rotate vanish and cloak for it

drowsy geyser
#

so i should probably kick the heal of himself

#

and cleanse the spit

spice surge
#

Yes

royal lantern
drowsy geyser
#

real

#

i have him as heal

#

like this

spice surge
#

Nah he does it whenever its off cd

drowsy geyser
#

should i change somethin?

spice surge
#

Its just has a slightly lower cd so if youre not pushing the boss you can end up with one without a dispell ready

drowsy geyser
#

and these talents

spice surge
#

But pot+vial should deal with it fairly well

royal lantern
#

like, normaly you do brann dispell first one->cloak 2nd->vanish 3rd->brann dispells the next one again

#

but, well, sometimes he just doenst dispell and it gets akward kekdog

spice surge
#

Depends on when you push him but ye

late ravine
#

!sim

#

!sims

prisma monolithBOT
rotund oak
cold rover
#

hello do you guys can recomand some specific macros for assasination rogue? i am interested

drowsy geyser
rotund oak
#

even if u arent geared he just enables u do ?? zekvir etc

winged gust
#

!sims

prisma monolithBOT
ornate harbor
#

Poison ring is like +15k dps improvement at

#

For me

solid palm
#

Nice vault for my 617 ilvl rogue, got the spyglass on heroic track so eeeeeasy skardyn's pick

lethal turtle
#

Was always easy pick

polar cape
silk sundial
#

So with the orb affix this week, I know you can use FoK to build combo points off of them. Can you also use them to get CT on a ST boss?

lethal turtle
#

For the dmg amp?

#

I would imagine so. I haven’t done 10s in a hot minute

limber lion
#

Yes

drowsy geyser
final dawn
desert crest
#

Hey it feels like our st is very bad outside of cooldowns so we should always try to have deathmark up for boss right?

royal lantern
late surge
#

send on cd

#

@desert crest

#

bosses usually live for u to get atleast 1 DM anyways

strange python
late surge
#

that prob still covers kb

#

considering shiv + shiv is 16 sec

#

and kb is 14

strange python
#

sorry this is single shiv

#

not double

late surge
#

wait

#

Ididnt look sorry

strange python
#

so im very confused.

late surge
#

dunno

#

dont think thats optimal tho

coral ibex
#

why do you have one shiv in a patchwerk sim

late surge
#

m+ talents

#

Im guessing its for m+ ST

coral ibex
vocal cradle
#

So the cloak from rashan it just makes you more tanky after taking the appropriate amount of dmg right?

late surge
#

yes

#

and the stats are good

vocal cradle
#

Word

spice surge
#

The tankiness proc is not particularly strong

vocal cradle
#

I got the mythic one in my vault yesterday...didn't think I messed up taking it lol

spice surge
#

But its better than nothing shrugeg

late surge
#

yeah

#

I mean some mechanics it literally does nth on

#

xd

rotund oak
late surge
#

bc it procs after the damage

rotund oak
#

u save ur cds for when they are trully needed and play through the fight

vocal cradle
#

I have a couple pieces with avoidance on it so I guess it works out lol

real solar
#

how much of a gain is 4 set from 2 set again?

warped jackal
#

Guys when i am in stealth and i need to dot mutiple target in opener sometime i have diffculty finding my first target that i ambush for the mark to bursdt it i find my self slow

#

any tips ?

late surge
#

sounds like u need better plates

rotund oak
slim pebble
#

Did someone @ me in here? I cannot find the ping

lethal arrow
cursive frost
#

!fuu

warped jackal
#

the plater i use it one of the 2 plate that this channel linked and it suited me best one of the thing it dose amazing is that health bar become green on the target that have Caustic spatter i wish that mark have the same thing that is clear to see like arrow arou nd health bar

prisma monolithBOT
spice surge
warped jackal
#

can i do that without changing the whole plater

slate crown
late surge
#

should be able to swap color if target has mark on it no?

slim pebble
lethal arrow
slim pebble
#

I just tried to do my GB 10, after the dungeon started the pally tank said "Gonna do small pulls due to easy timer"

pure moth
slim pebble
#

We didn't time and my 11 GB has now turned into a 9 siege after two failed runs

#

I love this game

warped jackal
#

i wanted to know how you guys do it

lethal turtle
spice surge
#

Technically its better to swap targets yes, but if it ever causes you to lose your main target for a bit its not worth it

#

The gain is really small to dot different things

drowsy geyser
#

also little outdated no?

warped jackal
# lethal turtle easiest fix is get comfortable with mouse over garrote rupture

oh ya now that you mention it i wanted to talk about that . yes i do dots and kick mouse over but i am not 100% comfortable on it yet . sometime the health bar keep moving around back and forth even when the tank standing still . is there a way to make them more static and on place so i dont kick/dot wrong target which happened to me before

spice surge
#

For kicks id just recommend to get used to setting a focus and using a focuskick

#

And organize the focus cast bar in way thats very easy to see and react to

lethal arrow
warped jackal
lethal arrow
#

u just kinda tank zekvir and pick up potions until zek gets into his cast loop

#

in which case he just stops autoing you

spice surge
#

Just bind that

lethal arrow
#

and you just do back to back mechanics for the rest of the fight

warped jackal
smoky helm
#

hello fellow rogue friends..the sims says to take the helm with socket and catalyst it into tier set, in both ST and dungeon slice..but i think spyglass is too good to pass, for both raid and m+ content

balmy dome
#

Is rupture always the prio over proccing darkest night?

#

Or does it change?

pastel onyx
#

!bugs

prisma monolithBOT
topaz egret
drowsy geyser
#

FINALLY

mint urchin
grim glen
#

i dont understand what subterfuge does for us. does it just extend carnage in keys?

mint urchin
#

It extends carnage, improved garrotte and master assassin

smoky helm