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L
No KB. Less dmg
😄 Na. I dont trust u 😄

itlll be crazy in low keys im sure
someone let me know when servers are up
venom nova still exists
thats most of my coup deaths 
run out, coup procs, charge cancel the knockup
r1 key build tbh
Tired: my son is sick today
Wired: I can contribute to 10 am vault picture spam
(it has happened to me as well)
i died on mist first boss frontal last time cause of coup
and looked like a fool

you mean 1 am
cant wait for this tier to end, third boss in a row I'm playing like shit
but blizz saved me now I guess
Why are you sub
Isn't asshole better
Idk
sub for first boss mist
Yes
Sub playable in city and dawn too
But i figured you''d play outlaw in city since its fine there too
Unlucky
oof
Outlaw is wild in city
keys don't feel fun with an augvoker tbh
I think it's the better spec by far
In stonevault as well it pop off like crazy no cap
Ye fuck Aug
They feel like such a slog
I’m more tanky obviously but not fun
i dont care how much augs do utility, for me it always feels like a boost run
I like aug keys but I don't like the boss part
Dont like Augs 😄
my only issue with aug
is that the only spec in the game that cant play with aug
is outlaw

Sounds like the solution is to delete Aug and outlaw
sounds like a outlaw issue more than a aug issue 
real
i prefere 3 real dps 😄
eeeh
Imagine: Outlaw rogue could give an debuff which increase the dmg on the targets...
with you boosting them or being boosted?
like "break the Iron" or smt
Crimson vial > Toss Crimson Vial.
Feint > Faintly helping
Evasion > Evasive Maneuvers (aoe for group)
Cloak of Shadows > Blanky of Shadows
Auglaw
Between the eyes > Between your dps meter
me boosting them
it is like a Taylor Swift song... first time is awfull... but if u hear it the 30th time u like it 😄
it makes sense b/c swashbuckler in DND 5E is a very tanky/support based role
like you give your allies hp
and advantage
you're literally captain scarbosa
every rogue i know plays fuckin soulknife
not me 😄
im a valor bard though, far above the memes of rogue
I dm a thief rogue
He always asks, can i use fast hands on insert random object to blind them??
Like bro its a bonus action use object
Not bonus action cast color spray
i think the whole concept behind aug is flawed
Funny way to spell augfull.
It makes difference between specs more apparent
i just cant imagine DMs sitting there and watching a soulknife perma stun npcs
When a spec is op
hello there, I'm ilvl 599, this is sv. what u guys think I should focus more ?
the key level is 10
how is a 599 being invited to a 10
When a spec burst high, well it will burst even higher cause of Aug
And when a spec scale well with secondaries
we agree lol
My rat 570 dh got 4 timed 10s this week kekw
damage breakdown looks good thyough
Again it will synergize better with Aug cause of that
Check your talents, use amplifying poison
insane
Instant poison is big bad
pvp talent
So idk, Aug symergyse too well with good specs, and too poorly with bad specs
err pvp poison
So the gap is bigger than it really is or should be
That mut number seems really low, but also I don’t really look at mutilate in my breakdown
might be right, his darkest night dmg also looks low
unfortunatly
I mean a 20 years old game that was never built around support specs now has a support spec that is completely unbalanced, who would've thought
all 3, dmg healer never goes oom, and tank mitigation
it does as much damage as any spec
aug out damage more than half the specs in the game
details made a new addition that shows a very faded teal line
and again
honestly details is shit for augs, just look at logs
it does very mid damage
No Aug will do tank DPS lol
details made it so you can see the faded line
It doesn't do mid damage tho
otherwise it would be taken for time trial content
It does too much damage for what the spec does
It does as much damage as half the specs in the game
i didn’t see any in the mdi
Especially in a good comp
Ye cause it doesn't do as much damage as the top tier specs
mdi content is 11 keys and below
But all I'm saying is, an Aug in a meta comp will probably out damage feral, wls, warriors, etc etc
Idk if you get me
Like as a third DPS, it does the damage you expect from your third dps
Which is an issue cause it also bring way too much shit
Aug issnt very good number wise, MDI are too low keys for aug, its strengh comes in mobcontrol etc
On top of that
mob control, long combat time so healer never runs oom, tank high active mitigation uptime
and dmg for dps obv
i kinda wanna play aug
i hear 3k io is free
aug is mid as damage
yet it does the same damage as other dps

doesnt look that mid to me
?
?
?
you want me to show weeklies or what
i tought this was a serious conversation
mb
Aug buffs other classes if your aug is doing bad damage it might be because the other player isnt pressing buttons properly
im not saying aug tops damage
im saying it does as much damage as half the specs in this game
or more
also wtf is mdi
we aint talking about mdis
Hard to not do that dmg, when 90% of those augs are buffing enh shams
Which is my whole point
Aug is bad for the game
Cause it's op with op specs
And bad with bad specs
So you can't play Aug when you aren't playing the specs that work well with Aug which are most often just the broken specs of the moment
Anyway
No one likes Aug
Time to delete
i mean league already made the mistake with yuumi before aug came out. Everyone hated yuumi, it was obvious that its broken when the players are op (in league fed), and complete garbage when the others are shit
AGREED; delete aug
Correct
Good luck on Vaults today homies
Id have much less issue with Augs if they added more support specs. Having a 1/1 spec is terrible for the game especially for 5 man content
I wouldn't call it free. A lot of people wont take an aug that isnt at minimum 3k io
I did worse
7 10+
But I did some crest farming
So my last slot
Is 619 
Congrats on your 619 Skardyns
Grace 100% in that slot now
I almost finished my 11s this week
Whens servys upp
I +2 a 11 Dawn and then failed an 11 SV in the first hallway
Skardyn's please!
please let us know if you get skardyns
Dawn is pretty close to the easiest key and SV is the hardest, so not super shocking
Don’t be a hater wth
I made the same mistake last week and the crystal from dawnbreaker dropped in my 619 slot
It’s a lock tho
HEY NOW other people said it too!
😆
would yall take the bracers over the shoulders?
i take skardyns right? i dont have to think right?

i was just thinking you can make any shoulders into a set piece
Take best trinket
awesome haha thank you
another passive trinket 
Here’s a fred for good luck
Get the cloak dude
I need him in 12 hours when I open my vaults
probably taking the myth tier legs
Are your trinkets goated already
i have a 639 empowering crystal
so
and 626 skardyn
Ah yeah I'd do same then
I dont feel like I can pass on this
Feel like you can
Shit trinket ngl
have you tried killing more mythic bosses?
trying real hard
like this? lol
😡
Yeah I am, gonna rerun sim in raid spec
lmfao
i'll either take socket and toss it on my belt or mythic track ring if it sims better
oh wait servers up
Ye
!SIMS
Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html
Feels like the better long term play is to take spyglass
I had the same choice last week with socketed helm and took emp crystal. And then I got the helm from 2nd boss mythic raid
i'll jump inside of ur screen and slap u if u dont take spyglass
in a friendly way
😅
please record video
watch me do it
How important is haste in comparison to mastery/crit/vers ? I keep seeing different opinions
Catalyzing tier slots is so easy to come by now. Trinket is rare
3 Wrist XDDDDDD GL
you'd have to just keep simming your gear for best combo of stats. Everyones got different profiles based on the gear they have.
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
for your 2nd kingsbane in "opener" do you completely stop using muti/trying to sustain envenom buff when pooling?
i dont sim, i just take ilvl and call it a day 
if it works, it works
I got mythic vers/crit boots, could be worse
you get 2 kingsbanes???
do these subterfuge builds in keys play any differently?
on aoe opener do you tempest with 4cp if you get bad rng and just continue as usual?
is there an easy way to get Bravery Points ?
i worded it poorly but your next kingsbane w/o deathmark etc 
mandatory flex since everyone does it anyway
You are just taking subterfuge to extend the duration of Master Assassin afaik
just vanish offensively to cover the entirety of kb/dm
my second vault on rogue and i got skardyn only hero tho
how good is egg?
sim it
doesnt sound fun to play around but im probably overthinking it
why would i do that
to know how good i tis
Its pretty good in m+ but annoying to play around
nah
hey guys i've seen ppl take forced induction instead of 2x leathality is there is specific setup for it that makes it good or is it just ppl experimenting ? cause when i simmed it on st it was -9500
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is going from 626 weapon to 639 weapon better than 626 helm or legs to 639 better?
!omni
hey guys i have noob question, sorry if im blind. as sin rogue when i have talent for multiple poisons what order do i apply them in?
I forgot how much a gap mythic and hero track was. i remember df it was like 6-7 ilvl diff from max hero and max myth track but 13 ilvl diff gd
Probably but sim
rip any m+ player who wants full bis mythic gear without spaming mythic raid
maybe possible lethality hotfix isnt in sims still? no idea though
probably personal choice, you have so many builds rn its all over the place
yap, weapon is like 99% of the time the biggest upgrade (assuming its mainhand, offhand doesnt matter at all)
doesnt matter
but yeah. theres a ton of talent choices that are totally fine and viable
!poison
not a noob question! weapon poisons can be applied in any order, doesn't matter
You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:
Lethals:
- Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
Non-Lethals: - Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB
Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used
Has anyone tried the Harvester's Edict trinket?
Massive Ansurek Nerfs = season ending soon?
Anyone else have sims going 100k lower than last week. I luckily I only had one clear upgrade, but something seems off.
okay thanks i wasnt sure about whether it had impact or not. thanks again
big neck
Doubt. I assume tier is lasting till Jan or Feb
Jesus
Yeah you just go to your poisons in spellbook and apply all 4, you no longer apply poisons directly to your weapons like an enchant its just a buff you apply
and i dont need to use crests on it because i already got mythic neck in previous week's vault 
This would be the dream if I didn't swap to subtlety...
Swap back, wtf?
yeah you jusit still take it and swap back lul
How does the apl use the Ovinax trinket?
I... like playing sub...
Deplete a good run of GB 15 because your Enh decide to charge his add on valiona while fixated. Priceless fun
wtf is going on with sub's trinket prio anyway, bloodmallet looks weird af
Considering 626 ovinax trinket sims higher in dslice than a 639 dawnbreaker trinket
socket it is then i guess?
ovinax trinket reads so bad
Id still tke the skardyns even if i might not use it, its too good to take a socket over lol
Void reaper might not be bad, but I'm really tempted to take a myth skardyns
The moment I stop playing assa, I get 3 skardyns
Yeah, i think you just take it just in case you decide tyou want to play assa again
always myth skardyns if thats the option
@rotund oak You may rest king
forced simmed about 14k better for me, so it prob just sims better if they play it
i kind of want to take contract just in case I swap to outlaw
are you ce `?
we're on court
crazy
?
Sometimes i wish i had access to raid loot, but at the end of the day i just dont enjoy raiding so i just do high keys lol
we at like 80 pulls or something
and me is the opposite
i hate this seasons m+
i love raiding
Would it be best to take myth track weapon to 639 this week or take a craft 619 to 636 and upgrade weapon next week?
sim yourself
i want one item from m+, well two technically, hate that grind
Yeah i just naturally do like 30 10 to 14 keys every week on each character so its not like agrind to me it just happens
Still don't have mythic dagger, but it must drop eventually, crazy chest is best sim option, 8k for trinket 15k for chest
same coulnt bring myself to do 8
how much time do u have o.O
show sim
please
30 keys is like 15 hours, how many hours a week you playin wow? I'm definitely breaking 15 lmao
25 minutes here and there is more managable for me than 2-3 hours at once
u got premade?
30 keys?
No i pug them all
i dont have the mental power to find 30 groups
atleast 15 min of lfg per key
but pugs at 3k + io are normally pretty smooth
and how many characters do u play
just 2 , not a ton lol
well, Im probably embellishing the number, but i get more than 8 done by a good margin on each
I hardly can get myself to do one
3 keys a night is ~21 for the week
I want trinket, but I dunno we are on the worm, plus eventually just a catalyst chest will appear, I guess wait to see if I can get a weapon to drop in raid
bro
Yeah i for sure do more than 3 keys on plenty of days
bis trinket for sure
I think
even if it sims worse for now
its better in the long run
was my thought, just weird to see it so far behind in sims
do 2 or 3 in the morning 3 or 4 at night, etc
I mean ur chest is 619 rn
That's some free time
True for sure
yeah i just have heroic chest
Turning my 639 boots that are crit vers into mastery vers with catalyst is a 5500 dps gain
prob gonna do that
literally same
my vault was dogshit
i took a FOURTH SOCKET
i am now socketing my outlaw gear
dang thats crazy i havent taken a socket yet this season on either of my toons
trinket is like 1k behind if u upgrade ur hc chest to 626
@normal mist pass the thistle tea
There's a new ring available this week yea?
guildies vault 
dafuq
Ah, yeah that's true I guess trinket makes sense cause chest has room, current heroic sac is maxed
i know this ain't the pirate channel but I have been chasing the fist weapon from princess for over 2 months now
my sin set is actually pretty goated for not doing any mythic content
vent to us, brother
i did get oddly very lucky last week tho
Was hoping for a mythic weapon in the vault this week but no dice, do i just craft a 2nd 636 dagger?
Nah offhand weapon kinda sucks
that slot isn’t very good
Hero queen ring over Myth gear? 
barf...
so is 48 nerubar finery hard cap? cant i farm them on alts in lfr and giga buff my main
Hmmm, im not sure waht to do with all these crests i cant use lol
so for context i've been chasing a replacement crit/vers ring for my outlaw spec for roughly a month now. have been stuck with a crit/vers vet track one from necrotic wake
first delve of the week, I get a crit/vers ring, champ track with leech. Finally pogging, hit the statistical jackpot.
Of the 2 8s I did last week (really was not trying to push), someone else got a hero track of the crit/vers ring from wake, was a fury warrior, and they gave it to me
so I jumped up 2 gear tracks on my ring in the span of like 48 hours
LOL the face on the trinket says it all
craft armor or wait until myth stuff drops 
the proc goes so hard. even if stuck at 626.
hiiiiiiiiii @novel star
❤️
Do we have a new ring available in a patch or something?
I swear I read something about that
we do, but here's the thing: why not both
That's my only hesitation
new ring AND queen ring
helloge
Yea I mean fair
my guild finally got aotc last wednesday. We're uber casual. Luckily we're also uber inclusive so we're going back into the raid to get a few more kills of stuff and to help other people get their aotc too
i started the season as assassin but now i'm maining outlaw (haven't given up on sin tho, i still keep my gear around)
I am finally next in line for the fist weapon. Our havoc dh and ww monk fought for the first one, dh won. 2 weeks ago another fist weapon finally dropped and our monk got it. now it's finally my turn
🫡
and tbf my adhd brain chases the niche stuff. I've always wanted the fist weapon trinket combo since the start
I have it and it's meh
I expected more
for context royal i ONLY want it b/c it does a thing
I was the same way for the bow for my hunter from razsageth, the fist weapon for my evoker, and the axe for my warrior
Yeah I totally understand that
tbf at the time for BM it was absolutely stonks but the point stands
That's why my 1st vault I picked the trinket over Ara Kara egg
Guess i could craft 636 shoulders, dont really see the point in saving the crests for a future mythic vault item when i already have 150 gilded crests i cant use
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/82BduUXqnTsrQp9QVpJBDa i want to sim to see if maybe i take mythic track belt(since its got a socket already) and recraft embellishment to wrists. Missing something though cuz ive selected other items to replace and still showing up wrong
also i guess how the upgrade system works anyways its generally not great to save them except for when you are expecting to jump from like 619 to a mythic items since it saves you 15 crests forever
!guide
Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
Wait you took a void reapers contract over a sacbrood?
Shoulders over dagger ya? Already have a 636 mh, shoulders sim better as well
decisions
Bless ur heart Royal
trust le sim
go shouldy
the envenom direct nature dmg are splashed by Spatter too isn't it ?
I honestly don't care, I wanted to try that trinket out with the fist weapon, the best feel I can have is trying it myself hehe
yes
Yes
ok by 40% too ?
ya
ok thx 🙂
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yes ok all nature dmg so ^^
Except shiv
ah yes ok, it only aoe when talented to aoe 5 targets ?
Yes, besides arterial
Ye
ye ok ty 🙂
shiv debuff on spatter target doesn’t buff spatter damage on the rest of the pack
it’s a little silly
For real
Is the command pool or pooling
When do you cast slice n dice in the opener for single target?
SnD PTSD
ooooooh was this a recent change?
yeah
sorta
Is there a reason to have snd bound
11.0.5 made cut to the chase grant snd duration(including at 0/unapplied) instead of only extending
For firey ricochet you can only true immune the mechanic if the boss is casting on you first right?
no
At this point i havent pressed it since the change
Audibly sims higher
!pool
Frosst I remember you from Acherus
I mean it’s actually using a pretty good bind in `
Back in shadowlands
yes ok i remember whyspir saying that too, he said that things like this doesn't double dip because it could quikly go out of hand and out of control, dealing way too much
ye
Yeah i used to be there a lot but it ate up my time lol
would break da game
Oh mighty Great Vault, keeper of treasures unknown,
Bless me not with bracers, nor a pair of shoes alone.
Guide the RNG gods to hear my humble embrace,
And grant me that mythic-track Skardyn’s Grace!
Let no useless trinket be my weekly fate,
Nor relics of power that I already hate.
Fill my slots with loot that’s rare and divine,
Something shiny and epic, ideally one of a kind!
So as I open thee, oh Vault so Great,
May fortune bless my gear and seal my fate.
I vow to run Mythics and raid true and well,
Just please, this week, don’t give me vendor sell.
Bro those were the good ol days
I play a lot less now got a lot more irl stuff going on
Pog
Best it’s ever been but oblit is still too much of a focus i think
is there a WA for broodtwister egg?
Oblit = beans
Still don’t really like the cleaving but the horsemen can remedy it pretty well if you play that build
I made one if you want
Deathbringer goes crazy tho
It’s nice to be in the meta for once but I don’t feel like I’m rewarded for playing well, I just do what I’ve always done and my number is just bigger than before
Like now I feel like I’m blasting and I actually am vs before I felt like I was blasting but I was just always under other people
Oh well tuning is always like that as long as the gameplay is fun and the numbers aren’t complete trash it’ll be fine
It's just you don't need long breaths anymore, and your 45s feel actually impactful
I’m also always comparing with my mage friend and so it always feels like I’m behind but that’s just what happens when you compare to mage
Show ur gear too
Oof ring and crystal
Not that I can realistically help but your gear gives insight to what’s good
welll sims would technically be better than here
Do we play TTK on M+?
sure
I play m+ idc whats best for raid
Crystal
raid makes my tingly and warm inside
chest is largest dps increase, but myth chest easy to farm
1000%
can you give ur reasoning
Do you myth raid?
Ring is nothing in aoe
oh really?
Brandon where is your skardyn
gotta be crystal, and get to the grim batol mines
shut up shut up shut up

im cursed
next GB for sure
yeah crystal 1000%
you can get the ring eventually from drop
Myth chest is much more likely to appear again
ring is a drop, yes its rare but it can drop
trinkets on mythic level are literally vault rng only and no other way to get them
Ansurek ring does fuck all in aoe
can anoyone else vouch for this, im really suprised to hear that
i asssumed it would be nuts
Brandon doesn't believe me chat
and the m+ lootpool is also larger, chances that you see the ring again in vault are way higher
Vouchers plz
Usually I follow this for vaults
not activly just first 4
bis trinkets > weapon > correct statted rings and neck > tier slots > good catalysed stat slots > ilvl > tokens > everything else
It’s served me pretty well I rarely regret my vault choices
bro
You can sim aoe with the ring?
the ring is "a ring with a 1% dmg effect"
You can run a dungeon slice sim too
the trinket is "1 of the best passive trinkets avaible rn on the highest level"
Im telling you the ring ain't it
I trust your guys opinions more than my own
Just run like a 40s 5-8T sim without dm
new to rogue
For trinkets
What trinkets do you have access to
And are you actively pushing keys
Or will you do so in the future
Those are important questions
pushins 12s rn and continueing to push as far as i can possibly go
keys are my main goal
raid is just loot for me to use in keys
So you do want to have the best gear now and it’s not like you want to wait for certain pieces to show up again in a few more weeks
Cos for me I won’t push for another few weeks so getting the best gear right now doesn’t matter to me
Now what trinkets do you have access to
Unfortunately I don’t play assa enough to know exactly what’s good and what’s not from the m+ pool
Also idk what drops off the first 4 bosses
I know assa likes all stats, but deathstalker sees less use from crit compared to the other stats, right?
But look at all the available trinkets from there and see how much a 639 Crystal is vs a 626 of any farmable m+ trinkets
Realistically if Crystal is that good you’d pick it, if it’s not that bis then maybe a 626 of it will work just as well
Also see if there’s a similar ring you can get from m+
Is it one of the best trinkets?
This week is killing me
it is one of the best trinkets yeah
heres my GV and here's my current gear: https://raider.io/characters/us/malganis/Rhorne?utm_source=addon any suggestions? Considering the tokens this week... Neck or cloak are marginal upgrades and the two myth pieces aren't worth
No x3 m+ boxes 😦
Token is probably highest upgrade but it’s also a sign you need to do more 10s every week
Oh I want more, but I get spammed with declines unfortunately
With how rare myth track gear is, not raiding mythic from your vault means doing +10s is the only way to get the best gear
It’s super unfortunate to get to Tuesday and not have any myth track pieces for the week
I’d say do your own key if you have a 10, and only invite overqualified people
There should be plenty of those running around doing 10s
I lost interest in doing more than 1 10 a week. No upgrades? Nice, I’ll still get 2.5% dps increase in raid
I mean for some people (like me) the game is all about m+ so not really a problem
I am seeing significantly less people posting their skardyn's than usual
may need to demand a recount here
blizzard is screwing us
Any decent plater specially made for Sin?
!plater
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Hey guys, I got the bis trinket in the vault. I already have Arakara and Skardyn's 639 version. Sims are saying Spyglass is 0.5% DPS increase.
I am wondering if i should take Spyglass over the Tier Myth track Chest piece. Since There are several ways i can get the chest (via vault with Catalyst token, or have the tier chest again in the vault) but only one way to get the Spyglass.
Any thoughts?
dragon hooooly
what an abomination
dragon rogue is wild
sacbrood on st, spyglass on aoe/m+
if you guys cant help, just shut up lol
bob's your uncle
ahhh i see!
that makes sense, I'll try for tier chest token next week then. Hopefully it offers it in some form.
Hello guys in m+ how much garote targets are worth to dot in the carange window?
are you clearing mythic again this week
if yes, just wait until the clear is done
and then pick
Talking illegal now 
maybe you get a chest in the meantime
I'm only 4/8M no chance for tier chest
infinite if they are trying to cast through ur silence
it isn't a huge deal either way, you are correct that finding myth teir is significantly more common in vault though
~pressing garrote 2x with IC up is the normal play
no, but when somebody is asking a question the shittalking should not be the first 3 replies
yeah, then i'll take the trinket. Since it'll likely never show up again. Since its unique, and the chest tier token isn't.
yes
Spyglass = more targets
check wow bloodmallet for ur trinkets
1 target = https://bloodmallet.com/chart/rogue/assassination/trinkets/castingpatchwerk
3 target = https://bloodmallet.com/chart/rogue/assassination/trinkets/castingpatchwerk3
5 target = https://bloodmallet.com/chart/rogue/assassination/trinkets/castingpatchwerk5
100% Spyglass is better for 3 and more targets
oh yeah
he said he simmed it already
lmao swinging wild out here
don't use bloodmallet
sacbrood/spyglass/crystal are so extremely close to eachother, they dont really make a real difference in the end
true
like, get 1 of them and be happy, crystal tends to be very slightly better in m+. sacbrood tendss to be very slightly better in raid, but it makes no difference you can actually see in the end
bloodmallet is a generic rogue with generic gear, you should always sim your own character since your stats are different. Bloodmallet is ok for general ideas of what is good and nothing else
Chest would be a good upgrade, my last myth track tier piece
chest is even higher primary
so If I had that vault I would pick chest
ye same
I don't know about others
Spyglass uptime is like 20% in m+, cristal is 40-45 % : don't play spyglass
😮
where can i find good builds for every dung "for high keys"
wowhead
ok friends, thank you so much 🙂
on wowhead are all dung same build
look at logs to see what casualaddict and kush are doing
thats ALSO a bold take

Wait wat
wtf is going on tonight here
copying stuff without context is a horrible idea most of the time
inb4 the zerocool cooks come in
yes, cus assa has
and im not kidding there
500+ different possible "M+ buildss"
A million builds
all the different possible combinations of "do you play SB/MA/IW/SD/TTK/SSB in spec tree, and do you play Supercharger or Without a Trace in class tree"
adds up alot
and they all do roughly the same thing in the end
I actually love the build diversity we have
I was watching casualaddict on the last boss off NW, he got sent down, he ran to the wall and got snapped back up top, anyone know what that was?
some shadowstep tech?
sounds like a bug abuse
Maybe weyrnstone if there was an aug
^ that aswell i gues
yes there was an aug, probably that
daily reminder to delete aug 
there are a couple bugs you can pull off, i think you can take a gateway and either rescue or get rescued too
Pin this plz
I know races don't REALLY matter unless you're trying to min/max with NE/Dwarf, but for Horde, do we think Belf would be a good option?
i don't think belf is very good for damage but it's better than the bad ones
Amen brother
Honestly just delete the game at this point
Burn it all down and start over
belf is overall 1 of the average ones iirc
I'm mag'har currently.
what's wrong with aug
It exists
Everything
I just fucking hate Orc shoulder tbh

"we will make sure that aug will not be problematic"->proceedss to be problematic since its release in every single form of content
:3
oopsie
What if the problem isn’t aug, but the content itself?

shoulder pad insurance is way too expensive these days
aug's profile is just perfection for pushing keys
i honestly dont see that aug is a problem in m+
my shoulders look so dumb
then turn shoulders off
there are plenty of high keys done without an aug
But ur name is bis so who cares
😄 I heard you were stuck in the dryer?
lol pretty.. I tried Stepmom, Stepbro, Stepsis
Ik you did
hahaha
i mean yeha, the problem is that m+ is a garbage shit mode that was never supposed to be a "pillar of the game" and got akwardly pushed into one, and because of player babyrage because they failed a key after wiping 6x on a boss they basically removed the timers so keys are all about "survive 1hits lol" now and timer doesnt fucking matter
and aug makes you survive 1hits 2 key levels higher
:3
imagine keys where timers matter
and you would need to do dmg
UPRIGHT IS CRIMINAL
like, timers are such a joke unless you push on they very high levels
if you dont wipe, you time it
simple as that
xd yourself triple enhance sounds cancer
I'm a sophisticated Orc.
pinkies up
zug zug chaps
where are you finding these 1 shot mechanics
Nighstreak you're from moonguard aren't you
Everywhere
where???
hah nope
The shout from first boss in GB can be a 1 shot. Last boss circles from siege. The charge from 2nd boss ara-kara
every web bolt cast above a +14
how exactly does an aug save you from the putrid waters from siege
Who says they did
God damn should i t ake myth sikran neck over the myth umbriss? dont have any myth ring or neck atm
but the claim is that there are a lot of 1 shots than you cant live without an aug
hence aug is op
they make the tank 20% tankier
it’s not for the dps it’s for your tank
So alot of their group defensives got nerfed, it's moreso their tank defensives
most tank busters are a one shot
so the tank lives
Close as clutch mates got gutted
aug is a group dmg down
you just said at the end that aug makes you survive 1 hits 2 key levels higher
Key level past a certain point just one shot harder. The difference is the damage on tank and aug help with that.
^
that's like an extra 17% damage that the aug is allowing you to live
But dPS wise it won't help you survive more
yes, blistering scales + more mainstat on tank allows them to survive more
which clearly just isn't true, they only have zephyr once every 2 minutes and rescue every so often
0% chance tanks survive +15 gb without aug
without that you would stop keys on a lower level
It's not that frosst
cus tanks would die
Just had a run without one. Did not deplete on tank damage but in enh charging valiona add
ye that aswell
It's not just a dps thing
so this run is just fake then
orobably actually
it's a double outlaw key

Kekw
ok hold up
You can find outliers
TBF GB is definitely one key where I would want to play with aug
there's a few non-aug keys on a 15 GB
the fact remains, tanks are far tankier with an aug, and in high keys, damage is never a concern, its living
but you're saying they aren't possible
NW or Arakara? Nope
No
i wouldn't argue they aren't easier to execute with
but to say it's not possible is a lie
I'm saying they're much easier with an aug
though it is true that every 16 GB does have an aug
they're also all prot paladins
POGGERS
For example Yoda's group dropped sin for fdk enh aug
fuck u
but i mean i still dont see how aug is "op" unless you're doing wf keys
and if we're going to take meta by what wf keys run, then like you're just playing a delusional fantasy game in your head because there's barely anyone doing those key levels
so it should not be a concern that at the very very optimised level, there's a set comp
saying aug is op is like saying prot pala is op
which they are
but it's playable without one
Aug has been that way since the dawn of history tho
and for the keys that most people do it's so far from needed
i don't think anyone is disagreeing with that point
so have mages
!macro
i don't think anyone can disagree with you so you aren't really saying anything
Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
aug has been strong at the highest level but it's nowhere near as good as at the wf key level in "normal keys"
I agree
so aug has not really been that strong
Strong is kind of an understatement tho
because as i said, you shouldn't take what's being run in +18s as what's op
what is it if not strong
i think people only really care about hard keys
Has any1 ran mists yet? Did they fix the second boss snowball bug?
Still there is a difference between WF and top team meta and pug meta. Aug shine in coordinated teams... Pug are by definition not.
Having a spec that amplify your own fail and getting shafted when you fuck up is a big gamble compared to three dps where the slack can be taken if necessary (if tank survival not in equation)
but i wouldn't care what is op at the world first level because it doesn't concern most of the players anyway
this is a big part
brother you aren't really saying anything at all
aug is so dog in pugs
i dont have a problem with a spec that does very well in a coordinated setting
you're saying it doesn't matter what's op in easy content when your comp doesn't matter
It was pretty oppressive in raid too
not this tier
also i doubt the vast majority of people screaming that augs are op in raid actually have good enough augs and other players that aug was actually op
Guess I should've italicized was
Why are we yapping at aug btw when enh is the issue there btw? Shit turbobroken
Enh can have it's time
Nah enhance is chill let them have it
Enhance were relegated to totem bitch for patches
Aug is goldshire npc
They get a patch being OP as a treat
Must be banished
i mean this season is also a season where aug is in the game, ofc they fuck up the tuning when a new type of role is introduced
they also ofc make it op so people want to play it
Not for 3 straight tiers
i would not say augs are that oppressive in this season though
correct me if im wrong but i feel like enh has never been good until this season?
they weren't big in the raid and they are only really needed in the highest of keys
and being needed in the highest of keys doesn't really make them OP for the regular player
and if you're crying that augs are OP for so long for wf keys then sure, but who cares
it has a huge impact on the community man
unless you're doing WF keys you're crying about a thing that doesn't affect you
people cherry pick meta comps even if it doesnt matter
99.999% of the playerbase probably don't care about this "issue"
for +13s
if you're doing WF keys then go cry to the other 50 players that also can do that key level
Sounds very similar to most things in life
ye cos they suck at the game
no i don't even have an evoker character
Sin isnt a meta spec now?
Sin is giga meta
so it's blizzard's fault that aug is op for WF keys and people cry about it in their weekly 10s
Third melee. Not too bad tbh. Enough of route needing shroud to get good invite
that sounds like a community issue not a blizzard issue
sin does fine, enh just does the funnel dps profile better
though sure, they control the game so they could fix it
but they have a lot of other things to do too and at this stage aug isn't so bad
every single gaming community in the world looks at the highest level for balance
thats wrong enhance has been p^retty good for a while now
we let our imp garrotes fully expire or just refresh like normal?
my definition of good is played in world first keys
Expire
Idk if its just me but I would rather drop a FDK before I dropped Enh or Sin in a key
Blizz don't compare to balance for m+ though. Most change are for raids which lead to the string of aberration through the years
Don't overwrite an imp garrote with a normal garrote
k, thanks
ive had a certain bug, idk why
if thats your definition sure then but thats a pretty bad definition
me when i see you
So who's brez
Affix cdr
recently skardyns keeps being on cooldown when dm comes back
Cables
tank
tbf, you can buy the engi rez
you are getting cdr from the affix
prot pally?

what affix xd
oh?i thought it only gave vers
NA has new affix for the week
why do your keys have affixes on them 
Or just give br to everyone since everyone has access to cables anyway
Do you spam the meld macro or only press it once?
im boosting
10s
you can't simultaneously be yapping about low keys and gatekeeping key level
things actually live long enough to do damage in 12s and 13s lol
it’s the affix giving you cdr
oops everyone already answered
yeah the feeling of opening on a pack and every mob has like 50m hp
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makes me want to game end myself
everything dead halfway through the opener
yup lmao
im like bro i've just pressed all the gcds i need
and everything is already gone
BRO I PLAY WITH THIS BOOMY
HE KEEPS STARFALLING
MY FUNNNEEELLLLLLLL

i don't feel that way in all scenarios, i'm just talking about this case specifically, first time enhance has been in world first keys
ret is such a pad spec lmao
yeah

but rogue gets a socket 




