assassination

[worthy surge]

can someone link there go to mythic plus build for 10s and up

[normal mist]

Good idea, I have 4 cats

[silver wyvern]

i just close the door and let him scratch my door 30 min 😄

[worthy surge]

so i can see all the changes i can makke

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-kfc-kfc-chicken-kfc-bucket-gif-791952242369937261

[cobalt sphinx]

i am kinda liking the no bonerspike build

[keen spruce]

just put a few of these on your desk

cat collection devices

[dawn heath]

guys

[cobalt sphinx]

if you don't take bonerspike you can pick up everything else

[dawn heath]

is it chad behavior to go take a pizza delivery mid key

[cobalt sphinx]

you got plenty of time to grab it during cot rp

[dawn heath]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/577779108025729035/1305828247086563368/image.png?ex=673472d3&is=67332153&hm=1bebff8709c1a105b0dfd286d0dc212b2e1816561da23a30c06ce0c7c2d7f6c0&

[warm vortex]

Let him watch

[warm vortex]

That’s your M+ squad right

[dawn heath]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/577779108025729035/1305828355270246400/image.png?ex=673472ed&is=6733216d&hm=6f4892ef4ff4b57da410eb377c2121d2e4127b88384daeff3a30018b1574130c&

[warm vortex]

Boner spike

I don’t wanna see that move animation

[dawn heath]

bro went afk 3minutes mid run

💀

[warm vortex]

Dude you might wanna get your dog checked at a vet, they look weird

[warm vortex]

Pugland

Beautiful pig land

[cobalt sphinx]

a man's gotta eat

[dawn heath]

we timed it

but it was awfully tight

[shy marten]

so what are you complaingin about

[dawn heath]

i mean i dont need this key

[shy marten]

💀

[dawn heath]

i was just playing for fun

[warm vortex]

A dude literally went afk

[shy marten]

i know lmao

i was joking

[dawn heath]

like

[warm vortex]

Oh

I’m dumb

[shy marten]

that's actually hilarious

[warm vortex]

I’m British and I can’t pick up on sarcasm

[dawn heath]

i wanted to see if i could improve my dps in keys

but

on the log

we had 75% active time in the key

cause we waited 2minutes for him on the boss

[shy marten]

oops?

[warm vortex]

I remember getting wowlog and doing a 10 with the only intent to log that run and I forgot to log

[shy marten]

ok but think about if you're the pizza delivery man

[dawn heath]

isnt this active turbo low?

[warm vortex]

Ok

[shy marten]

you dont wanna stand outside waiting for this guy to finish his dawnbricker

[warm vortex]

Would rash lower it

[dawn heath]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/HLABmJhFbwzGNt69#fight=last&type=damage-done

[cobalt sphinx]

it's pretty low in dawnbreaker usually

[warm vortex]

Cause on final boss you sit there with your thumb in your ass for 2 years

[stark kraken]

on dawnbraker you fly a lot

[dawn heath]

i felt like i did really good damage

[warm vortex]

Fair

[dawn heath]

2.4mil overall

when the key was done

ingame

but like

we afk'd so much

[cobalt sphinx]

aug gamer

[dawn heath]

so the dps is low

well our aug was afk

also he didnt pump

[warm vortex]

I’ve never hit nearly that high what ilevel are you

[dawn heath]

633

[silver wyvern]

I don't think there is corelation between downtime and dps tho

[dawn heath]

in logs it is

not ingame

[final dawn]

Can anyone quickly explain to me how refracting works? Can I recraft my 636 dagger to wrists without losing my enchanted guilded crest?

[normal mist]

That's like my best quality

[warm vortex]

Bro I’m 631 and I’ve only done like 2.1 mil at most

[silver wyvern]

İf your details 2.4m and log are 2m that because AUG difference.

[normal mist]

No

[warm vortex]

Then again, I haven’t done higher than a 12

[warm vortex]

:0!!!!

[final dawn]

So you can only recraft same item?

[normal mist]

Correct

[final dawn]

well i am fucked

😄

[normal mist]

Aren't we all

[final dawn]

how are you pulling off such numbers? I thought that I am performing quite well in my +12's but you are two or three level above me

[silver wyvern]

Yea that's what i am saying. In details aug's damage readings are incorrect. It adds to your damage. Logs don't do that. You will have your dps while you are active and on another column you will see how active you are and what happends if you get %100 uptime. But that's only count when you are in combat.

[stark kraken]

aug + high ilvl

[final dawn]

With aug I have maybe around 2.2 mil and have 629 ilvl, which is not so bad I would say.

[warm vortex]

Yea same X)

[final dawn]

but apparently I am a noob

[subtle tundra]

good numbers!

[warm vortex]

Me thinking I’m good
Assa discord:

[stark kraken]

thats good number wtf

[silver wyvern]

meanwhile me in +9 keys with my 620 assa doing 1.7m and thinking i am god xd

[subtle tundra]

i have pushhhhhhhh tonight finally some keys ive been edging to the thought

[subtle tundra]

you have bad gear in low key, not bad numbers

[cobalt sphinx]

1.7 is very good for a 9

[warm vortex]

But yea

2mil I’d say is still nice.
If you time the key then it’s good

[silver wyvern]

idk if it's good or bad but feels much more fun to play after arcane in m+

[warm vortex]

Tbh Assa is super fun in keys

Happy I main it

[silver wyvern]

god i am 628 with fully bis and can't do freaking damage in keys

[warm vortex]

Outta my 3 chars it’s my fav

[cobalt sphinx]

yeah assassination is fun and easy and arcane is difficult and trash

[kindred hinge]

I have GB 15, not looking forward the inevitable pug classic of pulling the first pack and depleting on it

[warm vortex]

I only rlly dislike 1 spec i play atm so i might swap it with beast master soon

[subtle tundra]

its an uber hard key

[stark kraken]

arcane shouldnt be too hard now

[warm vortex]

Can’t wait for the 88 trillion heal absorbs

[subtle tundra]

very hard mechanically id say

[silver wyvern]

it's definetly not hard but whatever i do i can not able to do big dam in keys

[kindred hinge]

Definitely, shroud the first three helps though but mostpug tank don't want to do it

[stark kraken]

yea, thats just mage this patch i think

[dawn heath]

aug is probably adding like 400k overall to me

it could be more than that

but this aug was very bad

[subtle tundra]

kinda upset we didnt time the 16 after we practiced the 15...

[dawn heath]

so the buffs were small

[subtle tundra]

smh

[silver wyvern]

In bosses yea with spymaster i pop 2m damage in 9-10's but in pulls i am shit even with my cd's.

[warm vortex]

How tf do you guys even put anything above 10 btw

Cause like once every 4 keys I finish the dungeon

The rest people leave and deplete it

[dawn heath]

HUH

[silver wyvern]

dedicated group or luck

[warm vortex]

Ah ok

[vagrant tapir]

thoughts on this

https://i.imgur.com/Y2z7Y1r.png

[silver wyvern]

or use discord such as no pressure. Most of the people in there won't leave usually

[warm vortex]

You could have structured that so much better

Very hard to read

[vagrant tapir]

seems speed and a few others are playing it in high keys

[kindred hinge]

That's part of the game in pug. You try to learn and train on what you have access and deal with repetition

[vagrant tapir]

wat

it's a spec talent tree from murlok lol

pretty straightforward

[warm vortex]

Talent tree is hard to read when you can just open the game and take a screenshot or use the wowhead one

[kindred hinge]

Before Skarmo nerf a lot of group that managed to kill him in high key at the time went full clow fiesta depelte on the last corridor of SV because not many saw those packs in 12+

[subtle tundra]

they are very much not

playing that m+

thats the st tree bud

[shy marten]

i just walked into a +11 for a weekly

[vagrant tapir]

ikr?

https://murlok.io/rogue/assassination/mm+

[normal mist]

Murlok

I never used it besides for pvp

[shy marten]

i think if you ever want to do anything about a 12 it's better to find people to premade

[vagrant tapir]

I can only assume its rio reporting incorrectly?

[shy marten]

lfg is absolutely terrible

[warm vortex]

He dude

[subtle tundra]

yea if there is not log for the key it just takes the build they logged off with

[warm vortex]

*yea

But tbh I might just play 10s for now

[subtle tundra]

so they did the key, raided and logged off

[warm vortex]

I legit was doing them for enjoyment the other day

[subtle tundra]

gg you have key done with st build

[vagrant tapir]

well this is across all keys and speed has tons of keys done

[subtle tundra]

bro

[warm vortex]

No crests, no gear
Just for fun

[subtle tundra]

a website can be wrong

cause the data pulling

is wrong

[warm vortex]

It literally doesn’t have carnage or splatter

[vagrant tapir]

@subtle tundra

[deep breach]

What average overall dps do you guys reach in 10/11s out of interest?

[warm vortex]

Varies a lot

[subtle tundra]

i dont need to assume anything

i can guarantee you

[warm vortex]

1.7mil -2.2mil for me atm

[vagrant tapir]

thats super cool

[cobalt sphinx]

You assumed correct, that is clearly not a build anyone is running in keys

[subtle tundra]

thats the pure ST build

[vagrant tapir]

you're just repeating what I said

[subtle tundra]

it has 0 aoe

[iron carbon]

Between 1m5 and 2m depending key

[deep breach]

Yeah that's about what I'm hitting

[subtle tundra]

but you initially came here asking a question

[iron carbon]

10-11, adds die pretty fast

[subtle tundra]

and i answered

[deep breach]

I got skardyns yesterday which has helped soo much in st

[vagrant tapir]

@subtle tundra and then I found the answer

[deep breach]

You guys seen the new racial for maghar orcs? Looks like it could be crazy good for us.

[warm vortex]

Guys stop arguing and just kiss and make up

[vagrant tapir]

maghar stocks through the roof

[warm vortex]

Too busy snorting kaja on my goblin to notice

[subtle tundra]

my lips are reserved

whispyr only

[deep breach]

I literally unlocked them as soon as I saw it 😭🤣

[iron carbon]

Dwarf > rest

[subtle tundra]

(and cheating on him with oxi)

[iron carbon]

You won't change my mind

[warm vortex]

Btw this is my relative gear (like a few days old so it’s missing gems but still)

[subtle tundra]

goblin? whats goblin

[deep breach]

I've been an avid nelf/dwarf fanboy for a long time but man that maghar orc racial looking so good.

[warm vortex]

Goblin-

Is a fantasy race

[subtle tundra]

such a baddie 🥵

[oak tangle]

i hate pugs

[tawny geyser]

Shadowmeld is insane, if used correctly.

[iron carbon]

What's the change?

[deep breach]

I'm about the same other than mythic track sac instead with skardyns. It simmed slightly better

[oak tangle]

failed 11 SV, cause they can't not kill 3 shards on skarmorak at once

mean whiel doing significantly less dps

[deep breach]

Shit load of secondary stat every 2 minutes

[warm vortex]

Usually seen as short and green. In the Warcraft universe they are known for their ingenuity with gadgets and mechs. However, due to the repetitive use of kajamite over the years their intellect is slowly decreasing (I think I’m right)

[warm vortex]

You know it

[iron carbon]

That's not a change

That's the current one

[deep breach]

Yeah they made it target a certain stat

[warm vortex]

By used correctly you mean if it doesn’t bug out right

[deep breach]

So mastery for us basicall

[iron carbon]

Oj, not random anymore

[final dawn]

Talking about key dps, i recently saw a vod of zero in ara and i noticed that he is mostly going for full combo points even when having reached 5/7 for envenom

[warm vortex]

Was it a good player

[deep breach]

Meld is annoying sometimes but so useless in so many situations

[warm vortex]

Yea

[final dawn]

Maybe i did notice it wrong but is that what we are doing? I thougt that more darkest Night = best

[deep breach]

Useful* lol

[tawny geyser]

Envenom is fine on 5

[final dawn]

Basically everything is fine on 5, isnt it?

[tawny geyser]

But you always want 7 of course. It all depends.

[warm vortex]

Meh still I’m sure there might be higher simming races but at this moment races don’t matter too much

[warm vortex]

True true
But if your at 6 or 5 just go for ur

[deep breach]

Dwarf is hard to beat currently

[iron carbon]

You just don't want to waste cp

[warm vortex]

Just pressing envenom I mean

[tawny geyser]

Dwarf is just defensive, right?

[iron carbon]

Yes + crit damages bonus

[warm vortex]

Yea true, I more so meant dps wise

[oak tangle]

you need 7 to proc darkest night

[kindred hinge]

Not justa defensive, THE ultimate defensive. Sad they are so ugly

[warm vortex]

You can still be a top player by playing whatever you want

[warm vortex]

Ban this person

Please

[tawny geyser]

Only when the Mark is down.

[warm vortex]

You prolly play blood elf or might elf

[oak tangle]

every 3rd envenom

[warm vortex]

And like having toast with nothing on it

[onyx rock]

Orc sims a good chunk higher then dwarf for me

[kindred hinge]

I have cursed pick axe in bags, just to punish myself with random morph into dwarf

[warm vortex]

UhmAktallY that INSt a DwARF. ItS aN EARthen

🤓

[iron carbon]

2 m racial is good, especially in raid.

[final dawn]

I was just wondering why he is intentionally going for 7/7

[deep breach]

Honestly, the highest simmed race is whatever looks best in the transmog you like. Everyone knows good transmog = more dps

[kindred hinge]

Short ugly and annoying voice, covers it

[oak tangle]

it is required for DN

[warm vortex]

Yea

It’s an rpg play what you want

[kindred hinge]

They are buffind some racials anyway next patch

[tawny geyser]

He's going for 7 CP Envenom if his Mark is down, to be able to re-apply it, but once the Mark is up, he can finish at 5 or 6 CP too.

[final dawn]

Bro even with mark, not talking about dn

[kindred hinge]

Won't change the strengh of dwarf but still a welome addiition

[oak tangle]

??

he's an idiot then?

wouldnt be the first time he's done something jsut objectively wrong

[final dawn]

He clearly is not i would say 😄

[west crown]

its just not optimal

[deep breach]

Had this argument with a mate who only runs like 10s at max. They insisted that dwarf is the only race you should play. Its such a boring way to play the game.

[tawny geyser]

Zerocool likes to play, if you want real info watch Casualaddict.

[warm vortex]

Try

[iron carbon]

Nothing wrong to go 7 cp if you don't waste cp

[warm vortex]

*true

But don’t take what he says as gospel

[kindred hinge]

He plays like he wants because optimisation litteraly doesnt matter and he is the example of it. Take what ever you want from that, emulation / optimisation / have your fun etc you can do relatively high keys whilefacerolling if you cover the very basics

[tawny geyser]

Also have in mind that these people play 17's and I think even 18's, so you can't really play what they play.

[warm vortex]

Yea, and also sometimes you might wanna change things with your build

[tawny geyser]

True

[warm vortex]

Like IW is more appealing in pugs and certain dungeons

But if you have a premade w a prot pally it could be a good idea to drop it

[final dawn]

This is true but he did so much dps in that key that i was wondering how he did it

[tawny geyser]

Like they literally go out the dungeon to switch Atrophic Poison to Numbing Poison and TP back in. It's just some tiny little details, that make them time the keys.

[kindred hinge]

He is good mechanically and make good snap decision

A lot of dps loss is your choices /tracking and what you do during movement

[oak tangle]

we had to deal with this shit all through DF cause he played some coocked talents

[warm vortex]

Yea

But don’t start doing that in 4s for example

[warm vortex]

His name is a lie

[oak tangle]

to the point where this tier, whispyr got a screenshot explaining a dumb talent choice to link to people in this discord

[warm vortex]

Nothing about him is casual

Addict maybe

Casual? No

[oak tangle]

aren't they talkign about zerocool

[warm vortex]

Oh

Sorry I’m in class rn so like

I’m half focused on this

[kindred hinge]

Outlaws had to deal with James/JPC spouting exactly the opposite of TC for half of shadowland. The chan was obnoxious for most of the expand

[oak tangle]

like you can't flaem the guy, he does the content, but when asked about it, he has no reasoning for the stuff he does, it's jsut proof that nothing matters

[warm vortex]

Tbf I’m shocked how much free time uni gives me

Most of it being assignment based means I can focus fully on it for like a week then get the rest of the time just chilling

[warm vortex]

BUT IN THE ENDDDD

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/it-doesnt-even-matter-dont-care-want-to-whatever-shrug-gif-12158057

[silver wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/itve17-itve-hl2-half-life-in-the-end-gif-26248997

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/itve-hl2-half-life-in-the-end-itve22-gif-26249030

[fallen arch]

https://tenor.com/view/to-lose-it-all-to-lose-it-all-gif-26950544

[oak tangle]

what is this

why are there linkin + hl2 crossover

[normal mist]

Ravenholdt karaoke

[fallen arch]

Fallout boy

[warm vortex]

Never listens to linkin park?

My autocorrect nearly made that LinkedIn park

[oak tangle]

nah im just suprised that they are all hl2

lol

[warm vortex]

I know this is nearly been 20 years

But valve

Hl3

Please

[shy marten]

i mean it's not that that much lower, maybe like 6-8%

this was my 13 dawn

and we did not go get pizza midway through

[dawn heath]

yeah

it wasnt that low

i looked at some other logs

[shy marten]

i had to update and wait for my internet and then did a key for this log to upload XD

holy shit we had 11 deaths on this key

💀

[warm vortex]

Bro someone just pinged everyone on my guild sever to help him summon a maw rare

The audacity

[dawn heath]

compared my key to the rank 1 key dps

i just found flensing knives in his log

wasnt that removed awhile ago

how was bro 636 3.5 weeks ago?

[subtle tundra]

simple

get fed loot

some get that

others not

[dawn heath]

thats craz

y

636

3 weeks ago

[subtle tundra]

eh

[dawn heath]

kinda weird how these best logs are old

and they are quite alot ahead of theo thers

[crisp stream]

some builds work well for others and some builds dont, just experiment and play what build fits you is the best way to go for it.

but yea learning core of the spec is needed to do any of this

[royal lantern]

not many people log m+

[iron carbon]

Bleeds, spatter, cd , repeat

[subtle tundra]

i log unlisted

[crisp stream]

im at 2.9k approx with 190 ping atm, its all trail and error

[royal lantern]

we still love you varas

[iron carbon]

Not really hard core rotation to understand

[crisp stream]

yea but like whysper says " not everyone has the same understanding level "

[iron carbon]

Indeed

[warm vortex]

Hi mister bear

Varas is bis

[iron carbon]

I'm surprised he told that

[royal lantern]

tbh, wow classes are made to be kinda intuitive on a core level by desing

[iron carbon]

When I see how he looses his mind when people don't understand some explanation

[royal lantern]

like, you can break down all of them to 3-4 concepts

[undone flame]

shoude i ever renew my dots outside of pandemic?

[royal lantern]

he breaks down cus somebody asked for the 300th in the last 3hours "hey, guide says play X but casual doesnt take it, guide wrong????"

[iron carbon]

Ahahaha'

I understand this

[warm vortex]

Casual is a blessing and a curse

[royal lantern]

wdym with that

[crisp stream]

hey, based on what situations are you asking this?

[iron carbon]

But it was an explanation about rocket launcher

[warm vortex]

Have one friend who gets annoyed when I’m not running casual build

[iron carbon]

Then I've been told mother fucker

[royal lantern]

just say that you dont play casualy

[midnight mist]

[iron carbon]

Cuz I dared to ask a question about physical target cast and evasion

[merry bison]

Is there any tech so I can avoid the envenom bug

[undone flame]

like shoude i ever reapply Garrote Rupture outside of pandemic window

[warm vortex]

True

[iron carbon]

Don't get parry

[royal lantern]

you mean like, re-applying them earlier?

[merry bison]

[undone flame]

yes

[royal lantern]

no?

[warm vortex]

I do that sometimes
By mistake ofc

[merry bison]

How can I make sure I don't parry

[warm vortex]

You just don’t

Shrimple as that

[iron carbon]

hit boss from back

[merry bison]

[crisp stream]

use those combo points to keep evenom buff up and refresh dots on pandemic

[royal lantern]

modern boss desing appears

[warm vortex]

Rogues like it from behind
-maddie (Barny64)

[subtle tundra]

i like it from behind

[iron carbon]

Tbh, I sometimes garrote on 6cp to be at 7cp for dn

[subtle tundra]

i take it well

[crisp stream]

you mean garrote?

xD

[iron carbon]

Ovinax and his 360 ° parry angles

[iron carbon]

Yes, kekw

[undone flame]

okay just wanted to make sure hade an guy telling me i just apply rupture it after useing vanish even if it was not even close to the time to re appl them

[warm vortex]

How do people think of broodmom from a boss design point acc

Also Tyran how are you doing today

[crisp stream]

that is to apply improved garrote, vanish(stealth) buffs garrote, there is a spell in talent page

[royal lantern]

i love bloodbound horror being able to parry when you literally have it look at you for 50% of the fight

i loved Tindral turning around every 2seconds

i love parry

[royal lantern]

tired, not enough sleep

[iron carbon]

Hopefully, we don't lose cp anymore when parried

[undone flame]

yea i get garrote but not rupture (that was the main one he meant) i forgat to say it mb

[warm vortex]

Ah shits
And can you not go back to sleep

Actually
What is everyone’s fav and least fav boss of the raid

[crisp stream]

if rup is not in pandemic and no need to spread in m+ dont use it at that time

[fathom lynx]

since when does vanish remove movement impairing effects

or is that a talent

[balmy prism]

vanish on ovinax is a godsend

since we don't play ma anyways

[warm vortex]

Facts

[novel star]

always has i think

[balmy prism]

I wish it worked for the little fuckers targeting you

[fathom lynx]

my god, i've never known lol

[royal lantern]

since i can remember

[fathom lynx]

TIL

[warm vortex]

Wait it doesn’t?

[balmy prism]

nah they keep fixating

[warm vortex]

Hacks

Those little bugs are using the DH thing

[balmy prism]

indeed

but we made some roster changes and have 4 dks, 2 warriors and 2 palas now

shit doesn't live long enough for me to padd or get hit

[warm vortex]

Oh fair

[royal lantern]

mightaswell just throw nukes at the adds at this point

[iron carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/nuke-gif-8044239

[balmy prism]

our boss dps went up as well cause better players

[warm vortex]

Tbh ovinax fees like an ok boss design wise

But I’ve only done heroic

What changes on mythic

[royal lantern]

sure its better players and not the fact that you have 4 fucking dk's

[iron carbon]

More adds

[balmy prism]

need two rings for each set of eggs

[royal lantern]

[balmy prism]

so a bit more coordination

but that's basically it

[iron carbon]

More damages

[balmy prism]

shit hits a bit harder

[warm vortex]

Ah fair

[iron carbon]

And 2 ppl per eggs

[novel star]

ovinax is just a weakaura boss

[warm vortex]

So far the changes have been not that noticeable

[novel star]

is why ppl don’t like it

it’s not actually that bad

[balmy prism]

and a poor raidleader running around marking

[warm vortex]

(Minus ulgrax sort of

[iron carbon]

True shit ahaha

[harsh ravine]

I have one dumb question that probably got answered 50 times but I can't find the answer easily so ill ask:

does caustic splatter damages update dynamically ?
if I apply my caustic before using my envenom empowering, will caustic damages account the empower or do I have to reapply caustic with envenom buff running ?

[royal lantern]

~double the ammount of eggs, you get 2x the rings and need 2 to break eggs, more swirlies, adds are more Dangerous overall

[balmy prism]

everything updates dynamically these days

[iron carbon]

You late

[royal lantern]

always finish last

[iron carbon]

Pog

I'll remember it

[harsh ravine]

ok so I can apply my caustic as soon as I have rupture on my target and we're fine

[balmy prism]

yis

[harsh ravine]

tyyy

[royal lantern]

caustic is no dot

its just "you cleave with poison dmg from this enemy now"

[harsh ravine]

oh alright I got it better now ty

[warm vortex]

Ah fair

I’m still sorta happy w this

Sikran should be higher but blood bound is nice

[novel star]

just say it was an unlucky pull and u got marked with every charge

free copium

[iron carbon]

You keep progressing, that's good

[warm vortex]

Tbf it was our first kill

[warm vortex]

Yea

We got glory this week though which I’m excited

For heroic reclear might bring my arms

[iron carbon]

My logs on blood are so bad

Lemme find that

[warm vortex]

Tbf blood has become my fav fight in the raid

[iron carbon]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/81628818#partition=3

Last week logs

I think my deathstalker mark was not applied and I didn't notice

[warm vortex]

Fair
Your other parses rock

[subtle tundra]

bro youve done like 3 fights 😭

[warm vortex]

No like

Heroic

X)

[subtle tundra]

yea target dummy

[warm vortex]

Not ready to say fav mythic fight yet ofc

[subtle tundra]

-.-

[warm vortex]

Most things are that in heroic

Let’s be fair

[clever sapphire]

yap not applied through like 60-70% of the fight

[warm vortex]

Ohi lock

[iron carbon]

Yep, someone pulled and it bring me out of stealth

If I remember well

[warm vortex]

But let me like what I like!!!!

[clever sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/cool-fun-white-cat-dance-cool-and-fun-times-gif-11626785186067667293

[warm vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wizard-meme-funny-gif-3870502440791733376

[iron carbon]

Thanks, gonna bring it to orange tomorrow I hope

[clever sapphire]

fail pull being the kill, worst feeling

[warm vortex]

Good luck

[novel star]

install the snitch weakaura

call out early pulls in chat

[iron carbon]

If I was not asleep, I would have apply it with vanish

But

[clever sapphire]

atleast you applied it towards the end of the fight

[iron carbon]

Yes, I realised after I vanished

[clever sapphire]

many logs i see that are gray either never apply it or never reapply it after like 2nd rotation

[warm vortex]

Or if someone pulls at three just got
“Uhh. 2 1 go?”

[novel star]

ye

the “someone” is the important part

weakaura types who pulled and with what

it’s mandate 99% of the time

[iron carbon]

In fact, some1 pulled and I was the closest player from the boss, so I took a hit and it bring me out of stealth, so no ambush

[subtle tundra]

druid says to stop pulling early
his wrath flies early

very convenient

[novel star]

[harsh ravine]

Do you switch targets in m+ to apply as many ruptures & garrots you can ? or do you just reapply to your main target to spread with indiscrimite carnage ?

[warm vortex]

Happens so much

[warm vortex]

Apply 5 ruptures

[iron carbon]

And guildies are just telling I prepulled

[warm vortex]

SAME

[harsh ravine]

yes 5 for agility buff always, which is 2 casts on main trget

[novel star]

you can tab if you want it’s technically optimal but it’s cancer and annoying

[warm vortex]

Indeed

[clever sapphire]

pull size dependant if you swap targets or not. Also depends on how long the pull is gonna last

[novel star]

!carnage

[warm vortex]

If you have 6

[prisma monolith]

Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

• The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
• You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

[warm vortex]

Tab

[bronze pike]

Tab this

[iron carbon]

Spread to be optimal, same target if lazy

[bronze pike]

[clever sapphire]

i feel called out

[iron carbon]

I got mouseover macro on rupture and garrote

Bit I never use it under IC

[warm vortex]

I’d be more than happy to

[harsh ravine]

ok ty ill make a mouse over for rupture & garrot aswell

[iron carbon]

I just spam

[warm vortex]

Fairs

[bronze pike]

[harsh ravine]

on my SP i got a plater that updates colors on dotted target so I know who is dotted and who isn't, do you use something similar for rogue ? it doesn't seem to be a big deal there

[clever sapphire]

same, i remember making the macro back in SL when that eye crit trinket was bis where i couldnt swap targets

good old times

[novel star]

i use whispyrs plater which colours hp bars for spatter/dsm

[warm vortex]

I acc don’t have a mouseover

Don’t think I need one too much

[novel star]

but

for rupture maintenance no i just use icons

[harsh ravine]

sry what do you call dsm ?

[novel star]

deathstalkers mark

[harsh ravine]

ok ty

[warm vortex]

I just say DS

But you might get it confused with the system Nintendo makes

Nothing else has used the DS abbreviation trust

[novel star]

except like

[royal lantern]

you mean the Nintendo 2DS Light

[novel star]

deathstalker

like da spec

[harsh ravine]

I typed D in my talent tab, it didn't show anything so I asked 😆

[iron carbon]

Color for spatter, I track rupture garrote and IC with plater debuff, it glow when pandemic

And weakaura for dsm

That circle the nameplate in purple

[warm vortex]

Nono the new Nintendo 2DS lite

[iron carbon]

Omfg, I remember

[clever sapphire]

also for mfd sniping, i still miss mfd

[iron carbon]

I didn't like this talent

[clever sapphire]

ye i dont think many liked it outside of pvp

but i loved it

[warm vortex]

mfd?

[clever sapphire]

would take that over feckin 7cp any time of the day

[iron carbon]

Marked for death

[clever sapphire]

marked for death

[warm vortex]

Oh yea

[iron carbon]

I prefer to be focus on defensive, utility than sniping targets for a bit dps increase

I should play ret pal

[clever sapphire]

so aug

[iron carbon]

Put that fcking spec out of my sight

Game is legit less funny since their release

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/seanway-studio-gif-16916623968340800430

[clever sapphire]

i was waiting for some kind of aug hate in that gif

[warm vortex]

Peak male performance

[iron carbon]

You put ths song in mind

Won't be able to stop sing it all day

Coworkers gonna be mad

[normal mist]

I had to share it with someone

[warm vortex]

Rogues will see this and think “hell yes”

[normal mist]

Because I can't stop singing it too

[warm vortex]

I can’t sing for another 9 or so hours

More like 8

Once I’m home

[clever sapphire]

i can't sing

[warm vortex]

I can’t

I

_ _

[clever sapphire]

how do you send an empty chat

i still dont get that

[iron carbon]

I can't walk

[warm vortex]

Easy

You go

_ _

_ just like that _

Oh that doesn’t work

Thought that would as it’s similar

[iron carbon]

Oh yes, fuck you @normal mist

[warm vortex]

_ _

[clever sapphire]

i dont know discord regex

[warm vortex]

I didn’t either lol

[clever sapphire]

fair enough

[warm vortex]

I just know you can send a funny empty message

[normal mist]

More than fair

[clever sapphire]

i need 2 more weekly keys and i cant motivate myself

[warm vortex]

Royal what’s your favourite flavour of crisps

[warm vortex]

What sever and relm you in

I could maybe tag along

[subtle tundra]

you dont want myth skardyn?

[clever sapphire]

eu blackrock but realm doesnt matter afaik

[warm vortex]

Hmmm

[clever sapphire]

i feel like a casual this season

so i dont really care

[warm vortex]

Maybe I cann help later

Idk tho

[clever sapphire]

but i would hate to not have 3 M slots

[clever sapphire]

ah im prob gonna do it in like 10 minutes anyways, just queue into 10 mists or smth

but thx tho

[warm vortex]

Oh lol

I can do it in

8 hours

[clever sapphire]

homeoffice benefits

[normal mist]

Bacon

[warm vortex]

Literally impossible for me to work from. Home

[warm vortex]

Fair
Ever since I changed my diet I haven’t eaten crisps

[iron carbon]

I keep it for tomorrow morning, vault opening

[warm vortex]

No chocolate, crisps, sweets for 4 months nearly

Or 3 rather

[subtle tundra]

having a healthy relationship with shit food is good

[warm vortex]

Yea I LITERALLY cannot work from home

[warm vortex]

Yea

[subtle tundra]

i dont abstain, just not eat it all the time

[warm vortex]

Like sometimes
At max once a week
I have some baked treats

Sometimes after work

A jam donut or two

[clever sapphire]

i have a relationship with it, wouldnt call it healthy tho

[subtle tundra]

well its holiday season for me

so hard af to abstain too much

[warm vortex]

Yea

Also

Went to 1 takeaway at max per month

Which feels a lot nicee

[subtle tundra]

my workplace likes ordering pizza

[warm vortex]

Tbh December is the acception
2 bdays

[subtle tundra]

and its just rude to not go eat with my coworkers

[warm vortex]

When that happens I just pass

[subtle tundra]

yea but its rude

we have a get-together and everyone eats

so..

also its birthday season for me...
october sister + mother
november me + like 3 other people i know
the december its christmas

its funky

[warm vortex]

Oh no I just mean like
If someone is sharing pizza on lunch break

[subtle tundra]

my boss orders pizza for everyone and have lunch together

ocasionally

[warm vortex]

Fair

[iron carbon]

Rude means not polite, I assume you mean hard?

[warm vortex]

But yea minus December (and maybe Easter) no chocolate, sweets or crisps

And even then it’s in moderation

[subtle tundra]

rude

[warm vortex]

Cause even though I haven’t started working out I’ve already lost a noticeable amount of weight

[warm vortex]

Also when’s your bday :0

[iron carbon]

So I don't get why it 's rude to not eat junk food when you want to avoid it

[subtle tundra]

😒

[iron carbon]

Different mentalities I guess

[warm vortex]

Yea

Anyway
How’s everyone’s vault looking for reset

[normal mist]

Like shit

Did a grand total of 1 m+ this week

A +9 lool

Hero rare ring from queen on vault 4 sure

I guess I'm back to MH world

https://tenor.com/view/mhw-hammer-gif-24949482

[warm vortex]

lol

Mines full 10s, 2 heroic raid, 1 myth raid

I cba w delves

[normal mist]

They aren't worth it after a certain point

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-mhw-katana-long-sword-clean-gif-16066198

[subtle tundra]

i want to delves

just uhhhhhh

they are too boring

and annoying

want the knif...

[iron carbon]

2 MM 1 HC raid
3 10+
on rogue

Some shit on others char

I beg for Ansurek ring or decent boots

[subtle tundra]

if i get ansurek ring i dont need any more loot

[warm vortex]

True

[warm vortex]

Fair

[subtle tundra]

im done with m+ gear if i get it

[warm vortex]

They just take so fucking long

Delves

[iron carbon]

Not even MM track M+ stuff

?

[subtle tundra]

and m+ is the only content where my dps matters

[subtle tundra]

not really

have myth skardyn

dont care too much about 2nd trinket, ill get ovinax and try it

[iron carbon]

Oh you just don't care bout higher than HC stuff

[subtle tundra]

i have myth almost everywhere

[warm vortex]

I still feel like I can’t do decked unless I stealth past them

*delves

[fallen ginkgo]

hello looking for some advice for Mythic Court (yes i know of lorrgs) - which boss do you guys usually CD right after 2nd intermission? Looking at lorrgs ppl do it before the web vortex so NON AMP'd scarab?

[warm vortex]

And even then it’s a slog

What’s the fastest on this week anyway

[iron carbon]

Ggz, I miss rings, neck and boots 😦

[subtle tundra]

am missing myth head which i guarantee receive from ansurek

[iron carbon]

On HC, just send your shit on cd

On MM, on prog, same, if you wanna log, you can aim for amp phases

Just don't sit on your cd for too long

[subtle tundra]

thats uh

not how it works?

[fallen ginkgo]

Talking about mythic and its prog not reclear and i dont really care about logs - just wanna still use CD's efficiently

[subtle tundra]

idk how to explain it

whatever

[iron carbon]

Am I wrong?

[subtle tundra]

idk

[fallen ginkgo]

been using cds / king / mandate on all dmg phases
BUT after 2nd Intermission it gets a bit weird

[subtle tundra]

the way you explained going for logs is wrong
there is no way to pad on court, so you always "go for log"

you want as much dmg as possible

[cold rover]

is fatebound assa rogue better than deathstalker?

[west crown]

depends on the content

[subtle tundra]

your point in playing is to kill the boss, which means doing as much dmg as possible(-> going for log)
you dont change your cds from dmg amp to on pull or whatever cause you want a better log, you do it cause its correct for the fight

[cold rover]

for m+?

[west crown]

deathstalker

[iron carbon]

Had the discussion with Tryan 2 weeks ago and he told me that

[clever sapphire]

only in pure ST if you get lucky coin procs

[subtle tundra]

its the same thing as smolderon

some people held for intermissions

some people used on cd

[royal lantern]

i did what

[clever sapphire]

insanest vault of my life (1 more key to go for 3M slots)

[iron carbon]

Speaking about cd use on Silk

[royal lantern]

if its about court, iirc it just doesnt really matter where you use them in the end?

[iron carbon]

I maybe remember badly

[warm vortex]

Nice
You ain’t a raider?

[clever sapphire]

i quit early this season

didnt like the guild

[novel star]

just endlessly join new guilds

i’m on guild 3

[clever sapphire]

ye but i also dont like the current raid

so im just not interested in finding a new guild

[warm vortex]

Fair

Tbh the raid is fun

No fight I hate doing

[novel star]

valid

[warm vortex]

Ulgrax is the only one I dislike

[vestal cliff]

i dont like sikran

[novel star]

court looks ass lowkey

i like the rest

i think

[clever sapphire]

dunno i killed first 3, rest only hc but i didnt vibe with any fight besides bloodhound and maybe princess

[vestal cliff]

bloodbound is fire

[novel star]

kyveza is peak yea

[iron carbon]

Ulgrax is just a dummy

[devout pine]

!macro

[torn mist]

Ky'veza is a good fight

[novel star]

more kyveza today for me assuming guild reclears ovinax fast

fun boss

[iron carbon]

With a painful intermission

[warm vortex]

Btw what’s the best delve

I’m near the point that socket might be an angle

[novel star]

takrethan abyss

[warm vortex]

With 4 myth slots

[crisp burrow]

I assume

[warm vortex]

Ok

[crisp burrow]

second boss cant parry

right?

[novel star]

it’s in azjkahet i think

[iron carbon]

He does

[warm vortex]

Rn I need 1 trinket, 2 rings, hands and boots

Everything else is either crafted or myth

[crisp burrow]

idk im just

it happes to me so often that

[warm vortex]

I remember making a shitty photoshop edit of a vault

[crisp burrow]

i cant apply hero talent

at pull

[novel star]

rashanan parries in the key but not in raid i think

might be wrong

[warm vortex]

Tbh haste would be gross

But the ring would be alr :D

[crisp burrow]

idk if im being parried or maybe im just doing something wrong

[vestal cliff]

haste is good in ST no?

[warm vortex]

Also if I get a full vault I can just like

[novel star]

i have never had this issue with not getting dsm on opener

[warm vortex]

Copy and paste one item and be like

[novel star]

everything is good

ye

[warm vortex]

Yea but i would assume mast crit ring would be better

[novel star]

haste loses a bit of value in aoe but it’s still fine

[vestal cliff]

true

[crisp burrow]

idk maybe im pressing ambush too late after pull and it doesnt apply dsm or someshit i have no idea what is going on

[vestal cliff]

i have bloodbound mythic ring and borals hero ring

[novel star]

simply open faster

[vestal cliff]

good haste feels good

[warm vortex]

I have 2 crit mast rings

[warm vortex]

I had -1%

At some point

[vestal cliff]

yoiks

thats rough

[warm vortex]

Not really

[vestal cliff]

doesnt it feel weird?

[warm vortex]

Barely effects it because It’s just mast and crit stack

Nope

[iron carbon]

Just check if you pressed ambush

On your logs

[warm vortex]

Playing smth like arms warrior without haste feels horrid

But Assa is fine

[vestal cliff]

i guess ^^

its nice that we can use everything well

[crisp burrow]

well in my stealth bar its what i have instead of mutt so idk how i would be pressing mutilate

ill check

[warm vortex]

HOWEVER

[iron carbon]

By going out of stealth

[warm vortex]

always always always ALWAYS sim

[vestal cliff]

why did you guys decided to main rogue?

[vestal cliff]

true

[iron carbon]

Best class imo

[warm vortex]

Started playing it and liked it

[novel star]

idk i just picked it on my first character because it sounded cool

[iron carbon]

Utility, def, easy rotation with interesting min max

[crisp burrow]

being rogue is like being edgy but less cringe than DH

[vestal cliff]

TRUE

i just love rogue

and best discord imho

[novel star]

yea

especially when we post feet

and toes

[vestal cliff]

hell yeah

[novel star]

and feet

[vestal cliff]

and toes

[novel star]

i miss my pandaren feet sometimes

but void elf is so pretty

[warm vortex]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1110397160006094909/1301660997743804536/1725032670240239.png?ex=67347305&is=67332185&hm=a81d351bab25aab69d73ccfd28475aadc8f3fb46d512fab2ad43e1f0febf568c&

[strange python]

hello, Someone could tell me how much minimum haste is needed in raid and MM+ plz ?

[novel star]

cant go back

[novel star]

minimum haste doesn’t exist

any amount is fine

we like every stat

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[subtle tundra]

im sold

or bought

both work

[royal lantern]

bro im standing in line rn with people behind me, opend my Phone and that was on the middle of my screen

fuck you

[subtle tundra]

im salivating thats for sure

DROOLING

[worldly sail]

cant wait for xalatoes i mean xalatath raid

[vestal cliff]

first mechanic - succcccccccc

[novel star]

being permitted to taste and swallow that one drop of sweat would get me to take down the rope

[warm vortex]

Again she is good but I don’t know if it’s on the same tier as zovals nipple

[warm vortex]

Good

I had to risk opening that in uni for a funny joke

[novel star]

surely we fight her and don’t get edged for the next 3 expansions

[vestal cliff]

xalafeet hero talent tree when

[warm vortex]

The fact that wearing shoes would be censoring for some people is so funny to me

[umbral sierra]

does black jack work on bosseS?

if i blind and he immunes blind is black jack still applied for mechs

[subtle tundra]

ofc not

did he get affected by blind

no?

[umbral sierra]

didnt think so

well then idk why its taken in raid build

[vestal cliff]

for some adds

ovi , rashy

[novel star]

those are attractive too

if you’re based

[umbral sierra]

seems p useless though

[novel star]

[umbral sierra]

why do i wanna blind off the dots?

[royal lantern]

tbf

crippling also does t slow bosses but still counts for lethal dose

wow is weird

[umbral sierra]

this

[novel star]

take blackjack for the sniper add before sikran

[worldly sail]

and let someone live? no

[subtle tundra]

well
they do get affected by crippling, just the slow doesnt work

[novel star]

[subtle tundra]

so its different

[royal lantern]

you mean hitting 9people with the disorient bonb?

[novel star]

i still don’t know where the bomb is

today in alt raid people accused me of bombing and i said idk where it is and they laughed

but i’m deadass

[subtle tundra]

what fucking bomb

[novel star]

you can throw a bomb at your friends

on that trash

[warm vortex]

The best bomb

[subtle tundra]

demon behaviour

[vestal cliff]

50k in guildbank if you hit raidlead

[warm vortex]

Also

[novel star]

it ccs everything it hits

for like 5 sec

ur supposed to use it to interrupt the snipe cast i think

but

[warm vortex]

Leveling all my alts to 80 so I can get one superb fang a day

Loads e money

[royal lantern]

its 2024, raidlead is not actually in the raid

[novel star]

21st man is for the upper class

[vestal cliff]

our raidlead tanks

gigachad brewmaster

[novel star]

hard working honest guilds still put their rl on a hunter or something

[warm vortex]

Also

I bet multiple people genuinely got into feet because of how much they are pushing it with xal

[vestal cliff]

100%

[novel star]

probably

but idk

[royal lantern]

bro, feet is so vanilla lol

[novel star]

imo it’s one of those things where you were always into feet

you just didn’t know it

an awakening

[novel star]

that’s kinda a hot take i think

[subtle tundra]

nah

feet is normal

[vestal cliff]

sounds wild - awakening of the feet fetish

[novel star]

fr?

[royal lantern]

it isnt, its very widespread

like

[subtle tundra]

im starting to savour armpits

[novel star]

why do i get dogged on for it then…

[royal lantern]

feet and BDSM are the most generic kinks in the eorld

[novel star]

i have been an enjoyer of both for years but i feel like armpits surely more common than feet

as a sexual interest

[subtle tundra]

🤨

[novel star]

[umbral sierra]

idk i just feel like tricks or unbreakable stride would be more beneficial in a boss fight than black jack

[novel star]

no?

maybe i’m cooked

[novel star]

blackjack and tricks are both kinda fake in raid

tricks is less fake imo

[warm vortex]

Yea but like

[umbral sierra]

yeah at least i can start a pull with tricks up so people who cant wait .1 second for tank to get aggro

dont get 1 banged

[warm vortex]

Until they make a vore raid

Feet is the most they have done

[novel star]

surely they already did

there’s no way there isn’t a vore boss somewhere

in this games 20 year history

[royal lantern]

do the "maws" in dragon soul count?

[umbral sierra]

nah ur cooked

[novel star]

[royal lantern]

cus you go down 2 during the raid

[novel star]

i don’t know anything about dragon soul

[royal lantern]

same in nyalotha

[novel star]

the fuck

no kink shaming bro

[warm vortex]

I remember one from hellfire

[umbral sierra]

im noit

[warm vortex]

The big belly dude

[umbral sierra]

im saying ur cooked if u think armpit kinks are more common than feet

[royal lantern]

gorefiend?

[novel star]

ah ok i misunderstood

[warm vortex]

Also just gonna say I’m a fury degen

Furry

I mean

[umbral sierra]

all g i can see how my wording could have went that way

[warm vortex]

So I’ve seen it all X)

[royal lantern]

can confirm

[novel star]

idk i feel like someone cuddling in their partners armpits or smth has to be normal asf

[royal lantern]

mfs here are prude af

[warm vortex]

We are all weird tbh

[umbral sierra]

cuddling sure but idk ive never heard of armpit job

[novel star]

same i am prolly rank 1 freak in here but i’m not gonna get into it

[clever sapphire]

you just didnt dig deep enough ig

[subtle tundra]

yea but i mean more than that

[novel star]

well ofc

[warm vortex]

Trust me

[novel star]

but like

[warm vortex]

You are not

[novel star]

it’s the whole package

[novel star]

kappa

[subtle tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/al-gif-5621514478426440788

frieren so goated

[warm vortex]

I do art trades, and literally have no limit on writing

And I mean

[novel star]

throbbing.

instantly

[warm vortex]

NO limit (unless it’s illegal ofc)

So I’ve written some

[subtle tundra]

ubel my beloved

[warm vortex]

Very strange things

[novel star]

my tiny toxic blade is saying hello bro

[vestal cliff]

XDDDD

[warm vortex]

But I think what takes the case is me thinking marmite tastes nice

[clever sapphire]

you just know you are in assa discord, when you go into a key and chat is about vault, you finish the key and now its feet and armpits

[vestal cliff]

what is marmite

[umbral sierra]

my mage is named ubel