assassination

[grim jay]

With my lips

[keen spruce]

imma kiss you on your mouth

[grim jay]

Real hard

[gloomy hinge]

why would u even wanna macro shiv and tea

[keen spruce]

[gloomy hinge]

You use tea like 2 sec after shiv in KB window no?

[clever sapphire]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[gloomy hinge]

i thought tea lasted 6 sec shiv 8

[clever sapphire]

as long as you tea during shiv it doesnt matter

[keen spruce]

yeah but we're lazy gamers now

[balmy condor]

murlock's back

[clever sapphire]

im so bored

[balmy condor]

so you torment yourself here?

[clever sapphire]

time to spread basic information

[grim jay]

Jokes aside, my sac on myth track sims lower than my hero knife for dungeonslice. It sims better on st tho (my gear)

[balmy condor]

that's my thing wtf

get your own hellish punishment

[grim jay]

Nothing in here is basic

[keen spruce]

sac doesn't relaly sim well for me vs any of the competative passive trinkets

[clever sapphire]

look m+ is boring, alts are boring, there are no games out that im invested in

so time for discord

[keen spruce]

competitive

competative?

competitive

[balmy condor]

maplestory patch in 9 days

[clever sapphire]

i never actually played maplestory

[keen spruce]

DOES THIS LOOK BORING TO YOU

[balmy condor]

yes

[ionic aspen]

yes

[gloomy hinge]

DISGUSTING DIE

[keen spruce]

don't bully shmappy

[clever sapphire]

is that an ele shamy

[keen spruce]

prot warrior

[balmy condor]

bro you even got the random I've never seen agreeing with me

[clever sapphire]

close enough

[balmy condor]

you're cooked

[clever sapphire]

i dont know my mogs

[keen spruce]

shmeowdy did a 10 this week

and almost beat the disc priest

in damage

very powerful cat

[clever sapphire]

are you gonna stream? i need to see how that game is still in hype (i have legit 0 idea about maplestory besides 2d rpg or something like that)

[balmy condor]

yeh 2d platform rpg

[keen spruce]

mushroom game gud

[grim jay]

MapleStory (Korean: 메이플스토리) is a free-to-play, 2D, side-scrolling massively multiplayer online role-playing game, developed by South Korean company Wizet. Several versions of the game are available for specific countries or regions, published by various companies (such as Nexon).

You are welcome

[clever sapphire]

thats such a top google result answer

first paragraph of wiki

[grim jay]

Its worse

Ye wiki

[clever sapphire]

man i just know my google results

might give the game a try, i dont have anything to lose

[grim jay]

Valuable time of your life

Might aswell start a business and get rich

[clever sapphire]

too much hassle

i cant even start up a game

and you want me to start a business

[grim jay]

Ngl the hardest thing to start is my day

Every day

[clever sapphire]

getting out of bed

relatable

[grim jay]

Especially now that its getting colder

Bed just way too comfy

[clever sapphire]

you know what i love? going for a walk with my doggo at midnight and than getting into my bed as soon as i get inside

so comfy

[grim jay]

Sounds really good. Wish I had the capacity got a dog.

[clever sapphire]

im still living with my parents so its a bit easier

[uncut ether]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[clever sapphire]

not sure i could keep up with having a dog if i lived alone

[grim jay]

Its kinda rough unless you can take him to work or leave him/them alone

[clever sapphire]

ye i would feel horrible leaving him alone all day or when i go out or smth

[wheat steeple]

Noob question here for you guys. if crafting the Everforged stabber for assassin. what added embellishment are most rogues using? any info will greatly be appreciated.

[clever sapphire]

people either run the ascension thingy on dagger or double dawnthread

ascension is more meant for raid and dawnthread is more general/m+

[wheat steeple]

Thank you so much.

[clever sapphire]

just make sure you dont craft an int dagger

[wheat steeple]

lol I heard of that mistake happing. Im double checking every thing. haha

[oak sparrow]

i see zerocool and kussh using grip on wep and dawn emb or im wrong?

[lavish geyser]

How long is a season usually? I have just gotten to the point where I can go for high rating, due to decent ilvl.

[valid sand]

I got Zekvir +, the trick was taking Without a Trace for more debuff cleanses

[grim jay]

Always different

Still got plenty of time tho

So dw

[clever sapphire]

grip?

ah blessed weapon grip

embellishments are not that big, he prob crafted it for raid early on or smth and now just uses it because why not

zero is running double dawnthread

[sonic pawn]

Do both weapons count equally for damage calculations or only MH?

[clever sapphire]

only mh

oh is only the stats

so oh ilvl doesnt really matter

[sonic pawn]

oki

ty

[silent stratus]

does ovinax mercurial sim assume a perfect usage (<20 stacks) for all the dslice?

it sims better but I am struggling to keep <20 stacks for all dungeons and I am worried it is a simbait

[balmy condor]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[royal python]

is crimson tempest damage snapshotting on momentum of despair ?

[idle radish]

why TTK over SD

[spring stream]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom

• For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[balmy condor]

no it snapshots on its own target count

momentum is dynamic

[royal python]

thanks for reply; as in, didn't understand

like if my mastery accelerates, it will not apply to the target count of crimson ?

[limber lion]

5 targets, CT, it now does 100% more damage for the entire duration even if 4 other targets die.

If you get mastery procs or whatever during it, those are dynamic

So during it it will do more damage and once the mastery proc goes away, the damage goes back down

[royal python]

n how does stat chance inter bleed tick work ?

[sonic pawn]

is the pooling info still up to date? I dont see the ST builds picking Vicious Venoms?

[royal python]

stat change*

[limber lion]

Correct, VV is pretty much dead now. Do not play it.

[sonic pawn]

for deathstalker ofc

Alrighty

[limber lion]

Haste makes ticks faster, nothing else affects the ticks.

[primal yoke]

is the play 2x Dawnthread or 1x Dawnthread and 1x Blessed weapon grip?

[coral ibex]

whatever you want

[limber lion]

Doesn't matter

[coral ibex]

embellishments are so minor

[limber lion]

Embellishments are next to none

[primal yoke]

yeah true, was just wondering if the "low chance" on blessed weapon grip is LOOW, or actually pretty decent

[final dawn]

I just looted 639 kukri and am currently running 636 everforged + 626 regicide.
What is now best choice? Kukri + regi and recraft dagger to bracers (which are 626)?

Will sim it tomorrow but i am curious what to expect 😄

[weary spear]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[spice spire]

Can’t believe we never noticed the ascension spelling error

[quaint depot]

!tott

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[lavish geyser]

ok good to know, cause I started 2 chars and pugged one of the pretty decent rio and just stoppe playing and now im going for high rating on rogue 🙂

[clever sapphire]

I never read that far down

[weary spear]

Does that tricks weak aura auto go on tank? I use mouse over cuz my focus target is usually taken

[lavish geyser]

it does,

[clever sapphire]

I stopped at "Preferences"

[spice spire]

Real

[broken stump]

On a huge pull like start of NW or mists, my damage seems to be ass compared to a lot of videos I’ve watched. How many garrote and ruptures should I be getting out before sending envenoms? I’ve been using almost all of the 12s of IC to hit almost all

[onyx lion]

somebody know how much haste i need for 10%?

[clever sapphire]

What key lvl

[broken stump]

10

[clever sapphire]

Ye thats too low for big numbers

Mobs die before you can really get to big numbers there

On 12s with just 2 dps (and an aug) the main mobs die before my cooldowns end

So even 12s are gonna be low

Just spread bleeds while tank gathers then go into cooldowns

You can vanish mid cooldowns to spread more bleeds that are running out (this wont happen on 10s, maybe at like 13-14s(?))

[broken stump]

Ah ok that makes sense - I guess I just need to be getting into spatter damage and a CT sooner

[clever sapphire]

Ye i mean mobs on 10s just explode unless you are all undergeared

So its gonna be hard to do a "proper" opener

[broken stump]

610-615ish

[clever sapphire]

You can run sudden demise in 10s prob, mobs gonna die to your bleeds more often than not ig

[cinder grove]

If I want to play both Assa and Sub, which gear would be the most suitable for both ?

[clever sapphire]

Get transmitter ig? Assa likes all stats so prob just take what the sims tell you

[stoic lily]

Take mastery when you can

Both specs like mastery

[clever sapphire]

Sub is mostly vers/mast i think, assa likes it a bit more spread out tho

[cinder grove]

Yeah I already got good trinkets/rings that I can swap out, I was mostly asking regarding embelish I guess

[clever sapphire]

Embelishments are pretty minor, so take one thats good for either of the specs and its gonna be fine

[cinder grove]

Alright, thanks !

[vast patio]

What's kush's twitch?

[shy pecan]

Kushlol kushlul

[vast patio]

thanks

[spice spire]

Nice edit nerd

[vast patio]

Be cool if they had a thing for wow streamers, like some dbd streamers have this overlay that explains what perks do, but have that pull up current talents for the viewers.

[shy pecan]

They do with TGP and MDI stuff. But to auto update for talents while they’re still logged on, not sure if they care about that

[vast patio]

oh yeah? I didn't watch it much this year, and only on mobile when i did

Is it still going?

[fluid light]

hey guys sorry for maybe a flurry of questions, new to rogue. is our "spender" in aoe crimson tempest or are we only using that to reaply the dot?

[coral ibex]

only reapply the dot

[versed mica]

Maintaing dot, just like with rupture. Remaining cps with be used to spam envenoms of whatever target you have caustic spatter on for big poison aoe

You don't use crim temp in ST, with 4 set I believe the minimum amount of targets you need to use CT is 2 targets

[hollow gazelle]

any reason to take lightweight shiv in mythic or take another talent?

[balmy condor]

generally take another talent

lightweight is giga shit in aoe

cause shiv outside of single target

is pretty much pointless

[solar wyvern]

Shiv damage isn't applied to caustic right?

[shy pecan]

Nice face nerd

[solar wyvern]

Like the amp

[balmy condor]

it is but the amp has to be on the target taking the caustic damage

[spice spire]

Ty bbgirl

[balmy condor]

so if you shiv target 1, envenom

caustic isn't affected

[solar wyvern]

Oh i was reading elsewhere that it wasn't good to know

[balmy condor]

shiv target 2, envenom target 1

caustic would be buffed

shiv is a target modifier

[solar wyvern]

Ohhh

[balmy condor]

so whatever nature damage that target takes is buffed

[solar wyvern]

Yeah that makes sense

[hollow gazelle]

so what would be another good talent to take? doomblade scoundrel or blindside

[eager plaza]

In mass aoe do you guys use a player profile to better see what targets have garrote and rapture applied?

[fluid light]

tyvm, ya boi was spamming it. ill adjust

[balmy condor]

what the

what kind of choice is that

what's your current tree

[hollow gazelle]

not running bones and iw. my push group has two shamans

[solar wyvern]

Sanguine blades/scent should be your next choices in dps. Curious how you're getting to blindside though, systemic shock is in the way iirc

[undone flame]

what was the comand for dawn vs weapo thingy?

[final dawn]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[undone flame]

thanks

[balmy condor]

that doesn't really narrow it down do you have a screenshot or something of your tree without those points

[hollow gazelle]

CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeMmZmZmxMAAAAAAAz2MmlZAAAAAAottZmBzMYmZWmlxMDmZMzgZmZzyYGgtZWGbMmxs0Y2WGmsNMsMA

[novel star]

double shiv with no arterial

[undone flame]

what woude be an good build for zekvir

[wide sand]

anybody seen "bug" or interaction where they didn't get a regicide at the end of kyveza intermission?

[novel star]

just raid st build tbh

maybe fatebound for better target swapping

[balmy condor]

oh yuck

[young flicker]

What key level does taking twist the knife over sudden death make sense? like 11+?

[balmy condor]

that's probably fine I guess if you're allergic to iron wire

whatever key level you feel like

balanced talents are balanced

[young flicker]

twist the knife will just give more burst on big packs essentially right? With full cds

[novel star]

a little but it’s mostly boss/prio dam afaik

anyways it makes sense to take at +0 because it’s a video game for fun and i pick da cool talent cus its cool

[young flicker]

I just want to pick whatever has me at like 2.3M overall and I can see 8M burst dps on big pulls 😂

[novel star]

well they perform more or less the same overall so

and if you wanna do that much dps just queue for a stonevault

that one room otw to duo boss lets u pad asf

[young flicker]

truee, haven't had a tank brave enough to pull it all, but I've only timed an 11 there

[coral ibex]

holy moly those queen nerfs

[hollow gazelle]

is it strange that my rogue sims higher in aoe and st dropping demise and picking up twist the knife

[undone flame]

surely i wil get an Skardyn's Grace this week 😭

[balmy condor]

Not necessarily

[novel star]

actually surprised they’re carrying over the p1 nerfs from heroic

[balmy condor]

Depends how you’re simming it

[snow kindle]

P1 hardest ansurek phase

[nocturne sorrel]

I just learned about the pandemic mechanic and that deathmark should be used just before kingsbane and shiv. My DPS jumped up by almost 100k...
I'm a fool.

[balmy condor]

Happens

[graceful heart]

does ST in M+ get better with more gear? or is that kind of the bane for ass?

[marble hemlock]

more gear means more damage

thats kinda how gear works

[nocturne sorrel]

What is ST?

[novel star]

more gear also means more damage for the other classes that are already doing more damage at the same gear level

[marble hemlock]

singletarget

[nocturne sorrel]

Ah

[coral ibex]

your number will go up, the experience really won't change

[nocturne sorrel]

Thank you.

[coral ibex]

you will still run out of energy

[graceful heart]

yea, better phrasing I guess - Does the energy/overall feel get better? That seems to be the one thing that is sort of not fun

[coral ibex]

and play for envenom uptime

[marble hemlock]

no

[novel star]

energy will never get better because that’s assassination design

[coral ibex]

that never changes

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[coral ibex]

[graceful heart]

gotcha, okies

that helps

thanks gamers

[novel star]

[graceful heart]

tbh overall, I thought I'd hate melee dot the build, but honestly this shit is a vibe to play

even if I'm living in GB rn

[novel star]

but yea our m+ boss damage is kinda mid

ttk build helps a bit but it’s still mid

[novel star]

it’s chill

slow spec for old people

we vibe

[graceful heart]

yea my initial thought looking at it was "oh this gonna be hectic"

[nocturne sorrel]

Question. With 7 combo points, when should I be using my spenders. I'm guessing at 6 or 7 and not below. Is that right?

[graceful heart]

but once you get the flow, it's big comfy

[worldly sail]

5 or more

[coral ibex]

nah assa has had the same slow boomer identity for most of the last 15 years

with periods of "holy shit why do we have all this energy" in between

[hollow gazelle]

just 5 and 1 boss 3 mins should i do two for deathmark window?

[nocturne sorrel]

It's why I've always preferred assassination to the other two specs.

[coral ibex]

5+cp, 7cp to consume DN

[wanton imp]

Is there a way to know all the commands that are enabled in this chat? Very often I see ppl answering questions with commands.

[nocturne sorrel]

DN? Sorry still learning.

[coral ibex]

deez nuts gottem

[nocturne sorrel]

Hahaha wow.

[coral ibex]

darkest night

[balmy condor]

Dungeonslice generally

[hollow gazelle]

is there anything i need to know about dropping demise for ttk even when it sims higher for me? do i need to change anything or just bleed all and envenom away

[coral ibex]

its darkest night fr

[balmy condor]

If you sim aoe you’re gonna be perma capped energy so ttk is gonna look better obviously

[nocturne sorrel]

Great! Thanks again.

[livid jacinth]

Do you save both shiv charges for kingsbane usually or only keep one for the tail end ? After opener

[novel star]

save

[nocturne sorrel]

I've learned so much about my spec in the past 30 minutes...

[novel star]

class discord moment

[coral ibex]

W knowledge

[shadow ore]

really avoiding crafting 636 dagger here but extreemyl unlucky with drops and i dont mythic raid so i guess i should get at least one and pray for princess one from vault?

[livid jacinth]

Gotcha ty

[balmy condor]

Well if you don’t mythic raid you won’t get a myth dagger from raid

So 636 is your best bet

Otherwise you’re stuck waiting for m+ vault

It is the single most important slot

[novel star]

your heroic princess dagger is still going to be shit compared to a crafted one

[balmy condor]

So definitely should be crafting

[novel star]

why would you avoid crafting a dagger

[balmy condor]

Yeh

[nocturne sorrel]

Back in my day I was the number 7 rogue on my server. Doing progression in Ulduar. Oh how times have changed. I don't know how anything works anymore.

[gloomy heart]

[coral ibex]

"oh no i have a 636 offhand"

best problem to have

[novel star]

the crafted dagger also lets you upgrade whatever m+ vault dagger you get

to 636 for free

if you do the bug abuse thing

[shadow ore]

is it better to put in in mh? if its the highest il i have?

[novel star]

yes

[hollow gazelle]

is it good i normally out dps my dungeon slice sim lol

[spice spire]

🐀

[novel star]

offhand item level is piss, main hans item level is the best slot

main hand even

[balmy condor]

I believe asap rocky said it best when he said “I love bad bitches, that’s my fuckin problem”

[coral ibex]

no that was 2 CHAINZ

[novel star]

Different artist whispyr

[coral ibex]

AND YEA I LIKE TO FUCK I GOT A FUCKIN PROBLEM

[balmy condor]

The number it spits out is irrelevant

[balmy condor]

That’s why I said I believe

[spice spire]

Yeah dungeon slice is part cleave part st part aoe, likely, you should be.
It’s just a tool to measure gear and builds not a dps check

[novel star]

be nice bro..

[coral ibex]

call my Q key a bug the way i abuse it spamming mutilate all night

[novel star]

W?

[coral ibex]

i'll leave

[spice spire]

I’m always kind

[coral ibex]

[shadow ore]

Q key is defo the vanish button nothing else

[spice spire]

Not always nice

Q is kick

[coral ibex]

Q vanish holy

Q kick holy

[spice spire]

U guys are lit

[novel star]

i’m not a rat tho

[coral ibex]

kick is shift-Q brother

[novel star]

E is kick wtf

[spice spire]

[coral ibex]

vanish has been shift-V since 2006 my guy

fym

[shadow ore]

pg dn is kick

[coral ibex]

PG DN

[novel star]

that’s health pot

[coral ibex]

ctrl-v for health pot

[novel star]

that’s healthstone!

[coral ibex]

no healthstone is ctrl-m4

[cobalt haven]

We click health pots here 😠

[novel star]

crimson vial v, shift v pot, ctrl v stone

[coral ibex]

and crimson vial is ctrl-t

[novel star]

feint q cloak sQ evasion cQ

u wouldn’t get it

[livid jacinth]

G is kick

[shadow ore]

thats the V button since vial innit

[novel star]

https://tenor.com/view/corazón-gif-12643228781756917379

[coral ibex]

ya boy has 1 unbound

[spice spire]

Why is one unbound when that’s the obvious mut bind

Ur lit king

[novel star]

Based

[cobalt haven]

Feint is alt+3

[novel star]

actually the most based thing to do would be mut on 2 and envenom on like shift 2 or something so you can always strafe

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-shower-gif-11018341

[novel star]

but fuck that

[hollow gazelle]

i use shiv a, mutilate comma, garrote o, and fan of knives e lol

[novel star]

rinse him off ffs

[balmy condor]

Do you play with both hands on the keyboard or what

[spice spire]

Feint is on the PTT button so I can blame deaths on being a yapper

[coral ibex]

can always strafe with mut on Q, D is just A in reverse

[hollow gazelle]

nah i use dvorak layout with a keypad that has a d pad for movement lol

[novel star]

[hollow gazelle]

really i use wasd for my main rotation moves

[coral ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/who-am-i-jackie-chan-1998-mitsubishi-lancer-power-slide-gif-22658953

this is me hitting Q while strafing with D

you are the cop car driving by

unaware

[hollow river]

like a Razer Tartarus?

[novel star]

noob cop

holy

twerked on

[coral ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-soyjak-pissluffare-soy-gif-25061889

[hollow gazelle]

yeah i think

[hollow river]

yeah i have one as well, i've just never used it for wow

if i did, the joy stick would be for my modifiers

and i'd use regular movement keys

[errant swallow]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[errant swallow]

Anyone know what's the recommended gems combination for raid?

[cobalt sphinx]

you can sim it but the difference is extremely small

[errant swallow]

Trying to sim but it keeps recommending the same exact gems

[cobalt sphinx]

the bis profile looks like the gems don't follow any set of rules

so you can probably just gem whatever

[livid jacinth]

Are you enabling replace gems

[errant swallow]

Sure am

[keen spruce]

gemming really doesn't matter as long as you're not slammin stamina gems

[errant swallow]

checked twice

[strange python]

Then your gems are probably optimal, assuming right SIM settings...

[errant swallow]

Well, thank you

ohhhhhhhhh Mike you're the man

[strange python]

Uncheck 4+ colors

Because it is probable that 4x purple crit mastery or similar is better than the 4 colors bonus

[tawny pawn]

guys tldr about supercharger, do i just play and dont worry about it?

till this day i dont understand exacly how it works or the possible interactions

[strange python]

In principle you could have 3cp, envenom and still get your 5 for mark procs. But basically maintain same philosophy of 5+ (play as normal) and gg

If also running TTK most benefit will come from empowered (shiv boost) envenom during double evenom uptime

But the reality is just blast as normal and, especially in burst windows, it just does it's thing

[feral mason]

How much of a dps loss do you guys think macroing feint to garrote would be?

There was a player in MDI doing it

[fleet pagoda]

two charges of feint gone in 2 gcd?

[winged quail]

That sounds very stupid

[brave vector]

You literally just press shiv and move on. All it does is supercharge your first combo point. Any finisher you use while it’s active acts as if it used an extra 2/4 combo points

[violet berry]

I feel like I don’t understand supercharger talent

How does having a supercharged on the first point useful

[brave vector]

Can’t tell if trolling

[violet berry]

Explain

The fkin tooltip is like chines

[brave vector]

I literally answered that exact question right above where you asked

[violet berry]

Oh wow

Lmfao

Ok that’s kind of weird

You have to land on it

?

[brave vector]

No

[violet berry]

Ok that’s what I’m co fused on

You used to with echo tho ya?

[brave vector]

You use a 5 cp envenom after shiv and it acts as a 7/9 depending on how many points you have in the talent

That’s all

[brave vector]

Yes

[violet berry]

Ok they don’t really explain that well or I’m dumb as rocks

[brave vector]

They changed how it works to make it easier yeah

[cobalt sphinx]

it just adds combo points to your next finisher

that's it

[violet berry]

Ya the fact that you used to have to land on it

And then now you don’t but they don’t explain that lmao

[cobalt sphinx]

it is interesting that it highlights cp 1 and 2 on default ui

but that's just an indicator

[spice spire]

Talents kinda do explain it

[violet berry]

It’s basically the same tooltip as echo in a way but works differently

Echo also used “consume” but you had to land on one of the supercharged anima points

Idk but I got it thanks

[spice surge]

They do its just completely different than echoing reprimand

While using the same visual cue, which is not great

[hollow gazelle]

do i need to get all my bleeds out then envenom or get started and then spatter envenom and then finish bleeding

[mint urchin]

Do bleeds first while you have improved garrotte

[short quarry]

when you use a stack of deathstalkers mark with envenom on aoe should you use a mutilate after if caustic is already up or should you just fok and envenom again?

the buff seems to go to waste but idk if its even worth worrying about

[brave vector]

Not sure what you’re asking. In AoE you mutilate to keep spatter up otherwise you just fok

[short quarry]

the buff from using a deathstalkers mark increases your next mutilate or ambush by 50%

i assume you dont worry about then on aoe

[runic hinge]

you'll mut eventually for casutic anyways

[short quarry]

ya but you likely miss one or two

[brave vector]

Fairly certain the current APL doesn’t prioritize that, which means it’s probably a minimal gain if not a loss

[spice surge]

Fok is significantly better even with that buff

Because a large chunk of the damage mutilate does is from the poisons, which doesnt gain any damage from that buff

And it also doesnt do much damage to begin with

[coarse bridge]

for 13s what build are yall playing talent wise, iron wire or no? if i take iron wire, what would i drop?

necrotic wake specifically

lots of casters, so i'm thinking iron wire

[fringe sierra]

Depends on your comp

if you have a team with lots of kicks id just go for pure dmg

[halcyon hamlet]

What would you drop for ironwire

[fallow canopy]

anyone knows how tight is the timer for avoiding silken tomb on ansurek with vanish?

[hollow gazelle]

nothing play with better people with more coordinated stuns and ints lol dpss sbabby

[hollow river]

Iirc most drop SB for it

[halcyon hamlet]

yeah no, not on a 14 NW, SV and Grim

the benefit of the utility outweighs the dps

[hollow gazelle]

i run iw on nw and grim actually lol

[halcyon hamlet]

yeah, TTW is just so benefecial that SB might be the only thing

[errant mauve]

TTW?

[balmy condor]

the tar within

[brave vector]

Sheesh. Maybe it’s just cause I only pug but I could never imagine dropping IW

[balmy condor]

yeah 5-6 weeks ago you would've gotten laughed out of the discord

but m+

silly community

[spice surge]

The tides of m+ are easily shifted

[balmy condor]

yeh

6 weeks ago people played without a trace and iron wire everywhere even though it was insane dps loss

then those things got buffed and isn't insane dps loss

and now they're dropping it for dps

such is the world we live in I guess

[umbral sierra]

is it worth to downgrade the gilded crests or should i just spam +4s

[spice surge]

I would definitely not recommend to downgrade gilded

Once you cap gilded youll get runed from the keys that previously gave gilded fwiw

[umbral sierra]

im sitting on like 200 and cant use them at all lol

250/810 is my season cap

[spice surge]

You can craft something

[coral ibex]

you can craft 2 somethings

[umbral sierra]

ig

so still better to go farm gold for a craft than to just upgrade 1/6 hero pieces

[vapid skiff]

you can drop one lethal dosage

[umbral sierra]

most drop sanguine blades

[vapid skiff]

ive been experimenting a lot with different things to drop for wire, dropping one point there has turned out quite a lot better than TTK or sang blades

[umbral sierra]

or take prot pally fuck iw

[vapid skiff]

well

ye but its still very good in NW and SV even with prot pala

as long as you dont do small pulls

[inland fox]

how is assa bad in h queen..

[spice surge]

Its not, assa is good

[vapid skiff]

adds die to quick platform intermissions cringe timings

but its not that bad still

lots of specs have that same issue or worse

[inland fox]

oh its just that sub is better it seems

[vapid skiff]

but thats always how it be for hc bosses with some adds ant intermissions

its slightly better for add padding

but assa is the best spec out of all for actually killing the boss

overall dmg its like mid

but assa is super strong for boss dmg on ansukek

[halcyon hamlet]

survival hunters are not real human beings

totally not a prio mob

[weary spear]

question about CT and caustic. Does CT do less damage the more targets there are? like at 100 targets it would do very little damage to each? and how does caustic target cap work? would it do same damage to each target at 100 targets as compared to 5? if that question makes sense lol

[balmy condor]

yes

they're the same

[vivid egret]

is fatebound ever better than deathstalker in raid or M+

[umbral sierra]

this rfrost aeghis shit is annoyting

[balmy condor]

fatebound can be better in pure single target

its bad anytime there's more than 1 target

[umbral sierra]

im dying while being sent down on last boss of wake

bc of the aeghis bs

[fallow canopy]

say you can't vanish on the opener in ST how much of a loss would that be % wise?

[umbral sierra]

we almost timed the NW got to last boss with 7 min left and wiped 2x on last boss. the affix makes the boss actually dummy to fight. bout dying to the add bc its getting buffed

also getting sent down is a fat "go fuck urself and ur deathstalker mark"

[weary spear]

last boss is sneakily worse than stitchflesh

[umbral sierra]

i like stichflesh

its a fun boss

bc its cleave and i can actually press gcds xD

[hollow gazelle]

just restealth all of your exiles and st it up lol

[weary spear]

can you vanish exile or he pick someone else?

[umbral sierra]

hahaahah

i smelded his exile

he recasted it ON ME

u can vanish the cast but its still a 33% chance that it picks u again on the recast

is icebound aegis casts based on time or hp? or is it random where he can cast it every 20 seconds but sometimes wont or sum

[hollow gazelle]

yes

[junior olive]

checking warcraft logs and im seeing different talents being swapped out...Master Assassin, Sudden Demise , Twift of the Knife and iron wire...How do i kno which ones to take.

for M+

[hollow gazelle]

sim

[junior olive]

can i sim for best talents or do i have to quick sim each build

[drifting cloud]

almost all of it is prefrence

[junior olive]

ty..was trying ot figure out why the talents were swapped

[hollow gazelle]

i mean for me if i drop sudden demise and grab twist the knife i sim a good bit higher

[drifting cloud]

people just have different opinions when to play what and where, but it mostly comes down to your group setup, the actual dungeon and the key level

for example youre never dropping iron wire in stonevault

[junior olive]

mhmm i see

ok yea i see why for iron wire

[drifting cloud]

and then dawnbreaker iron wire is pretty "meh" so alot of people dont play it

to just give you 2 different scenarios

but none of this really matter until youre doing like 15s tbh

and even then

[safe shuttle]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[silk sundial]

When doing CoT on higher keys, is there a specific overlap where we should cloak a bunch of orbs on the 3rd boss?

[spice surge]

The orbs in the wave before the aoe typically

[silk sundial]

Is that typically the 3rd set? Or do you just go off a timer/energy level

[green glade]

hi all - noob assassination rogue here (S priest main)... I swear I saw Whispyr's plater profile somewhere... but now I can't find it on wowhead.... any help?

lol I see it right there now. never mind

[warm ravine]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[green glade]

I swear you look for 20 min trying not to be dumb... then you ask the question and IMMEDIATELY find the answer

[slate crown]

You found it because you asked tho, so it's all good

it's like when I spend 45 minutes trying to get weekly profession items and shit will not drop

so I complain about it in gchat

and then the next dirt drops it

It's because I complained

[umbral sierra]

why tf is the ocarina an item in the game

such a dog shit trinket

[hollow gazelle]

so you can misspell game

[umbral sierra]

tbh misspelling something and having a typo is a different thing

[hollow gazelle]

not in the land of english

[balmy condor]

dawg aint no way I tab back in to you clowns arguing defintions

[umbral sierra]

dw i removed the word vomit

[balmy condor]

[hollow gazelle]

he deserved it lol

[umbral sierra]

Ight how do we get any uptime on tredova during its shield aoe thing. puddles encircle her and the swirlies on the floor just tell me fuck off and throw poison knives

[vast patio]

doesn't the overall include trash for some reason

[drifting cloud]

this isnt classic

[vast patio]

I thought it did :L

good if not

[fleet coral]

hey guys i saw my kara uptimes is so sad

i saw some ppls are using anub or spyglass

sims are not showing their uptimes well :/

[balmy condor]

what

why are we caring for uptime

[balmy condor]

if it's good it's good

that looks normal

[fleet coral]

if there is 1 egg sac then it gives me only 1 stack of buff ?

[balmy condor]

well yeah

once the egg hatches

you lose the buff

so you would need to proc multiple eggs

to get multiple buffs

[fleet coral]

so that graph is only showing me the when the egg cracks

how can i see how much agility uptime on me

[balmy condor]

??

That graph is your buff

That’s the agility

[fleet coral]

and then i only had 1 stack of buff most of fight idk seems like its not decent to me

anub already gives a main stat plus procs gives decent second stat (idk how it procs oftenly)

[balmy condor]

Again

Why are you worrying about this shit

[oak tangle]

so they can track and and still not have any influence over it

[sick grove]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[balmy condor]

Sacbrood is 1 stack basically perma, with sometimes more

Crystal is up like 30% of the time

Spyglass is up like 30% of the time

But they’re balanced for that

Who gives a shit

[vast patio]

I'm still mad about something

I only did one mythic vault slot from 10s on my rogue last week

guess what was in slot 2 on hero track lol

[balmy condor]

If I give you 1000 agi all the time or 2000 agi half the time, or 4000 agi a quarter of the time

It’s the same agi on average it just procs differently

That’s how procs work

Less uptime -> bigger proc

[vast patio]

I could have had a mythic skardyn!

[balmy condor]

Why are we evaluating trinkets on the basis of uptime

[fleet coral]

i have fights i never get 4k

[balmy condor]

4k what

[fleet coral]

and other trinkets gives you 3.1k agility already as a stat

4k agility

[balmy condor]

Brother we have sims

To tell you which is better

And you’re staring at an uptime graph of an rng proc

[oak tangle]

The ONLY case for doing what you’re doing for on equip trinkets, is if you have some way you can determine when you get stacks

[balmy condor]

Yeah I mean you are unable to control any of these

[arctic tusk]

LETS GOOO

no pi

😎

[umbral sierra]

should i be expecte to health pot or should i expectg a healer to heal the dot in boralus last boss. my thought is combat potion more damage use combat potiuon not a fucking health pot bc the healer cant press a heal

[hot jay]

they aren't shared cd brother

stock health pots

[umbral sierra]

since when

[hot jay]

algari healing potions

since a long time

[umbral sierra]

interesting

ig i played to much classic

[gloomy heart]

how do i update my rio, it doesnt show im 2/8M

[umbral sierra]

feint doesnt work on aoe debuffs does it?

[agile locust]

It updates daily

[umbral sierra]

on the last fight feint only reduces amage from slam right?

[gloomy heart]

okay ty

[west crown]

feint can reduce any damage

if talented elusiveness it does

You can pre feint the dot on last boss. But i've seen mixed results with that

[umbral sierra]

but it says aoe damage

is a dot aoe?

[keen spruce]

elusivness

[pale socket]

elusiveness talent adds some damage reduction from non-aoe

[keen spruce]

makes it also a total DR

but to your question a dot is not an AoE

[fleet atlas]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[vast patio]

So basically egg is bis in raid yeh?

[hallow token]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[dense talon]

In a two target situation, do we generate combo points with mutilate or fan of knices?

[balmy condor]

Mut if you don’t have thrown precision, fok if you do

[arctic tusk]

@drifting cloud this is 4 u youre the only one that responded to me like aweek ago LOL

[subtle tundra]

I don't want to fok on 2t...

I fok you

[drifting cloud]

congrats!

[dense talon]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom

• For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[unkempt ginkgo]

is there any value in maintaining caustic splatter on multiple mobs in M+, or on just 1

[slate crown]

Study the tooltip, particularly the last words.

[unkempt ginkgo]

thanks, i guess i cant read

LOL

[slate crown]

[subtle tundra]

jerk it

[honest needle]

hey should i really use these 2 trinkets over the others i feel the others are much better https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iepthQHZVHZFn8SswxXaCN

[slate crown]

[honest needle]

or u guys think this is my best option for m+

[subtle tundra]

its 700 dps if you dont like spyglass dont play it

you wont ever in your life notice it

[honest needle]

what 2 do u recommend then

[subtle tundra]

skardyn

[honest needle]

out of the ones i have

[subtle tundra]

oh

[honest needle]

i havent got lucky to get that 1 yet

[subtle tundra]

queuing into grimbas

[honest needle]

i been trying

what 2 should i use over the ones i got

I really wish they would make are singletarget as good as last expansion. i hate how our boss dmg sucks compared to other classes.

[spiral escarp]

Heya, any tips on defensive/immunity(a.k.a. cloak) on mythic court?
I don’t want to look unprepared for this fight, given on Kyveza I didn’t know I can cloak the kingsbanes, which was a game changer.

[clever sapphire]

Ritual knife could be bis if it was higher ilvl, spyglass is also big

I would personally redo your sim without all raidbuffs

Maybe that would change somethinf

Unless you plan on doing a 20 man dungeon

[civic adder]

Currently progging court i've noticed you can cloak frontals and acid rain (you won't spawn an orb but if you overlap with some1 else they will spawn 2 unless they immune as well. You can't cloak the dispells.

[gloomy heart]

Worth buying mythic boes?

[tawny pagoda]

hey guys, are u using any macro for shadowmeld + stealth ?

[clever sapphire]

If you are really rich, got money to waste why not

[blazing pumice]

only really the shoulders

cuz you can catalyse them

the other boes are kind of bad stats

but better then hero pieces i guess

[gloomy heart]

aren’t they like 200k each or some

[clever sapphire]

Aight rich guy, thats my whole accounts worth

[gloomy heart]

I only have 340k LOL

[clever sapphire]

(Jk i actually have 300k)

Well in that case i wouldnt buy

[gloomy heart]

i need to find a rich guy to buy me pots !

[subtle tundra]

i might buy mythic ring to unlock reduced crests needed for upgrades on alts in a week or two

if that matters to the subject

[gloomy heart]

That’s like 500k

How is everyone so fucking rich 🤑

[cobalt sphinx]

insane gameplay

20 seconds of silence on 3 targets

[subtle tundra]

if doing this times the key, fuck yea

[gloomy heart]

Praying for a massive vault tomorrow

1 mythic raid slot and 2 myth m+ spots

[clever sapphire]

Im happy with my vault as long as i get a myth track upgrade

[clever sapphire]

Probably boosting

Early season boosting can get you a lot of money

Or just being a crafter 🤷‍♂️

[gloomy heart]

yeah me too but i think anything is good tbh

i’m only 623

wanting myth dagger or trinkets

[subtle tundra]

still praying for my first fucking very rare item

i have to upgrade very rare slots now cause nothing else left

gragrh

[gloomy heart]

yeah that too

idk which would be better myth dagger or rare item (hero)

[clever sapphire]

I dont have this issue see? I dont have a single raid slot so i dont even have the chane for one

[subtle tundra]

i did an alt run on paladin 4/8M

[clever sapphire]

Myth dagger if its mainhand, weapon is always the biggest upgrade afaik

[subtle tundra]

i got more loot in that single run than on rogue the whole patch

[clever sapphire]

Paladin moment

Time to reroll i guess

[gloomy heart]

Ret pallies sigh

too many of them

[subtle tundra]

I WANT TO TANK

i have to ret in raid

[gloomy heart]

like you go into a abandoned house and open a cabinet

[subtle tundra]

but m+ is prot

[clever sapphire]

I somehow stopped seeing ret palas since i have been doing 12s

[gloomy heart]

they all crawl out

little rets

[cobalt sphinx]

ret is pretty good in keys

[subtle tundra]

its good for low keys

but once you need prio dmg

[gloomy heart]

Don’t like rets bc they insta damage and ruin my buildup pump

[subtle tundra]

its bad

[gloomy heart]

ban all rets!

i love me a prot pala rank

tank

[clever sapphire]

Well 12 is where people only invite the fotm specs and guess what. Thats rogue shamy aug

Even though i have low score so getting invited is a pain in the butt

[clever sapphire]

I love a tank that just lives

[gloomy heart]

feel like even when rogues good ppl decide to not invite us

just rogue haters

[clever sapphire]

Nah they just take the rogue with 5 ilvl and 300 rio more than you for their weekly keys

[subtle tundra]

☝️

[wet wharf]

Does anyone have a set focus macro for your deathstalkers mark?

[blazing pumice]

it's just /focus
/cast deathstalker's mark

but that's kind of bad, I would set up a plater

[wet wharf]

I have plater, but I find it difficult to find it on a big pull. Maybe I need to up the icons or something

[analog frigate]

I already did 80 runs of grim batol and still no trinket, can i get any mental support?

[silver totem]

You'll never get it. It doesn't exist.

[wet wharf]

I feel you. I am trying to get it on both rogue and monk...impossible

[analog frigate]

it feels like trinkets got lesser drop chance

[wet wharf]

its always the cloak...

I have not seen it drop to the other party members either

[clever sapphire]

Find some friends that will grind it with you

Thats how i got mine

[analog frigate]

no i like to suffer

[clever sapphire]

I saw it on my 10th run, dropped to our healer who took it for offspec

So i had to grind 30 more runs

[wet wharf]

Would be mental to get it in the vault tommorow

More chance of becoming the next president of USA tho. And I am norwegian.

[feral wasp]

when you feel like it won't drop, it will drop, works always

I had dropped 2 skardyns back to back and sold the 2nd one to someone in the group xD

[wet wharf]

how much did you get? I would buy so many tokens at this point xD

[feral wasp]

it was 100k as i remember, not too much

the guy would've probably paid x5 that though 😄

[analog frigate]

Its just sad how loot system works

[feral wasp]

I didnt played at those times, but wotlk token system looks fine for playing with many characters

[subtle tundra]

how so? people know that others are desperate for the trinket

[analog frigate]

Well i dont know, its just annoying to farm one dungeon for 80 times, dont you think ?

[wet wharf]

maybe there should be some system where you can increse your chance for an item in the vault. and after x amount of weeks it becomes 100%. idk

[analog frigate]

Or maybe just add vendors so you can buy your gear for some currency.

[normal mist]

DF s4 amen

[subtle tundra]

problem is, the dungeon has a weirdly large loot pool

cause its from cata

[wet wharf]

how do you sim skardyns? Can only find the cata version when I search for it.

[subtle tundra]

you set the item level and add it

[analog frigate]

well 82 and counting

[analog frigate]

i even farm it in outlaw just to reduce it...

[subtle tundra]

still 10 items

[analog frigate]

Im sure that i got every other item like 10 times.

[wet wharf]

what would be the best combo if you are not on skardyns. for m+ =

?*

[silver wyvern]

Ovi nax - Void reaper ( or spyglass)

[wet wharf]

Currently running Spyglass and ara kara. Guess its not the best combo, but dont have anything other of quality.

[wary valley]

hey all playing forced induction on ST raid. do you build to max CP (ignore supercharger points) on the darkest night spend?

[runic hinge]

Always build to 7 for darkest night

[spring stream]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom

• For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[clever sapphire]

the one that sims the best, since your trinket combo is just skardyns + the 2nd best simming trinket

[wet wharf]

If only I had skardyns 🥲

[wary valley]

Ty!

[clever sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-well-actually-as-a-matter-of-fact-gif-27665011

if you play supercharger and have the er effect active you can finish at 5

[wary valley]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/jFXyAnTrJxKk7gYH#fight=3&type=damage-done&target=25&source=7

my log from our first kill on brood

trying to figure why my envenom damage is so much lower than others - i wasn't building to 7 CP on the darkest night spend

also is macroing tea to shiv still a thing, i feel like i lose value on the the tea buff

[clever sapphire]

your boss dmg vs the rank 1 assa log on ovinax, you just didnt get to pad as much so blue log

[clever sapphire]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[runic hinge]

You could but I don’t track it and just build to 7 anyways

[clever sapphire]

i couldnt hold myself back, i do the same

[wary valley]

ty, just checking

[wary valley]

yeah i geared/talented for boss damage - if i look at highest boss damage on that fight for similar pull times, i'm seeing these top guys do ~150K higher than me

[clever sapphire]

but ye you can macro it it doesnt matter, you will probably consume it by accident anyways so why not just consume it when you actually get some use out of it during shiv

[wary valley]

appreciate your feedback @clever sapphire

[clever sapphire]

broodtwister is a fight i would never compare logs on, feck that boss and logging on that

either you get to pad or you will be a happy blue logger

[pallid bough]

I fucking hate broodtwister

[wary valley]

yeah fuck that boss

[pallid bough]

Reclearing it for a better parse is gonna be so cringe

[wary valley]

thanks again @clever sapphire

[pallid bough]

We have 2 DKs and other aoe heavy classes that are just gonna delete those parasites

[wary valley]

and @runic hinge

[pallid bough]

[willow relic]

Hi guys does anyone know if i can craft and use 2x Everforged Stabber 636 , on dagger it says unique equipped but few someone told me i can use 2 at the same time?

[wary valley]

you can

[pallid bough]

You can use 2

Don’t craft the embellish’d dagger

I forgot the name of it

[normal mist]

You can but 636 crafted OH isn't really worth it

Unless ofc you'd have a 639 MH and you wanted ascension

[silver wyvern]

it is good for st but always sim yourself

[balmy prism]

you never have to reclear brood until you're starting council prog happypeepo

[silver wyvern]

I would disagree with thay especially if you don't clear 4 mythic bosses every week. It's so hard to get myth tier weapon so crafting 636 would be beneficial

[pallid bough]

Unlucky for me that I killed Queen last Tuesday

So I have to reclear now

[balmy prism]

oh wait I thought I was responding to the guy posting his log

hehe

[pallid bough]

Oh

[balmy prism]

sucks to be gewd

[pallid bough]

Nope me bad

I just hit boss

[balmy prism]

I'm in a happy peepo dad raiding guild

just about to kill brood

[pallid bough]

Pog

[balmy prism]

i miss tryharding

but at the same time, it's a lota fun

[pallid bough]

I hate that boss but also love that boss

Weird relationship

[balmy prism]

I kinda like it tbh

[silver wyvern]

do you guys use crimson on brood mythic fights ?

[balmy prism]

not too difficult, just repetitive

[pallid bough]

It’s like, a lot of things going on but if one egg is missed it’s kinda annoying

Yeah

[balmy prism]

yes

[pallid bough]

The repetitiveness is what got annoying

[wary valley]

yes

[normal mist]

Did you read the whole answer or?

[balmy prism]

i started playing satisfactory instead of farming crests

my happiness level went way up

raidlog andy

[silver wyvern]

yea i did and even if you don't want assencion, crafting 636 would be good bet if you are not able get myth tier weapon anytime soon

imo

[normal mist]

Why would you spend 90 crests on the Oh?

The last piece of gear you'd want to actually upgrade

[silver wyvern]

For example if you are like me and your guild stuck with 2 mythic boss kill everyweek, and not pushing 8 10m+ every week, the only upgrade option is 636 dagger

[balmy prism]

you guys are talking about two different pieces of gear lmao

[normal mist]

Yeah

I'm talking OH

LOl

I keep mentioning Off Hand

[balmy prism]

skenderv he's not talking about the normal crafted dagger

[ashen portal]

Hello,guys i have a question and im looking for some answers,its probobly pretty dumb.
How does kingsbane work,i cannot get the max benefit of it.
Im spamming and clearing posions with Env+last 7 sec i use Shiv.

Any tips would be app.

[silver wyvern]

oohh mb than

[normal mist]

That's why I asked if you read

[silver wyvern]

yea off hand definetly would be overkill

I was thinking like OH is the name of the crafted dagger

[normal mist]

Oh ahahah

Nah we gucci

[silver wyvern]

3

^^

[normal mist]

Your statement is right if we talking MH

I did craft a 636 mh

Because I don't even raid mythic

[worthy surge]

hello all is this a solid mythic plus build for 10s and up ?

[normal mist]

Everyone will say yes

Because you can run pretty much whatever you want

[silver wyvern]

personally i would drop lethality and get second vanish

[normal mist]

And pick MA with that change

[worthy surge]

MA ?

[normal mist]

Master assassin

[worthy surge]

oh got it

[silver wyvern]

you can drop iron wire for some dungeons and take master assassin, if you need silence drop ToK

[warm vortex]

It’s Tuesday so that means I talk here

[normal mist]

Talking Tuesday

[warm vortex]

Most of the time if I drop IW it means I get both SB and Ma

Also hug Royal

Or hi

Hug works too ig lol

[normal mist]

Both

[warm vortex]

True

[normal mist]

I'm a hugger

[warm vortex]

Just showed me uni professor how my works gogin and he said “it’s too long”

Feels bad

Me too tbf

[normal mist]

Best answer would be just like my Diiiiiick even if you don't have one

[warm vortex]

Right sure

[silver wyvern]

Just to clarify yyou can also drop SB and get SD ( which you will see in wowhead guide ) all builds has pros and cons and depends how you wanna play your assa. We have build varity and almost all of them do similar overall damage

[warm vortex]

Imma walk to my uni prof and tell him I have a massive penis
Im sure that will go well

[warm vortex]

I’d suggest 2 sub

Just noticed that

[silver wyvern]

For damage between keys 8-10 i do the same. But with pugs IW comes handy especially after +9

[warm vortex]

Personally I would drop lethal, get sub to 2 and get WoT
And personally I fuck w SD
Recently been running SD and MA

[kindred hinge]

Hey folks, how do you deal with Stichwerk in 14+ ? Even with full cd vanish to apply mark if necessary etc my boss damage pale compared to enh / dk

[warm vortex]

Oh yea iron wire is good in pugs

[warm vortex]

Assa st is shit

Those two should bet you on dps anyway

*beat

[kindred hinge]

yeah there is ST shit and feeling that the lack of dps is your fault. Still doesn't change that any improvement is good to get even to get slightly less shit

[warm vortex]

True

[silver wyvern]

with that high key i think you can play this and go all in ST and caustic spatter damage

[warm vortex]

Tbh if your really upset about ST you could switch to sub for last 2 bosses

[stray bloom]

Hello, what missives are using? Peerless?

[silver wyvern]

again you can drop IW for ToK

Dungeons like CoT benefit's more in high keys with that kind of setup i think

[stark kraken]

Dosent it look weird double vanish without master assasin

[warm vortex]

Sims

[warm vortex]

If SB does more damage people take it over MA

I usually take double vanish for the utility of it
Pug tanks are unpredictable

[keen spruce]

why even play double vanish at that point

if your only goal is to kill stichy

[stark kraken]

Too much cooking for me for almost the same dmg

[keen spruce]

like

you're not gonna catch an Aug'd PI'd enh shaman

in lust

on that boss

so just help with the rest of the dungeon and let them kill stichy

[subtle tundra]

i take double vanish cause its more dps

we are different

[shy marten]

r u pugging

[kindred hinge]

y

[subtle tundra]

you play with good specs to carry you

thats what i do

and it works

[warm vortex]

I take it so I’m sneaky

[shy marten]

i think at the 14 lvl you just rng a good team to time a key

[silver wyvern]

Garrote application with SC and be ready for IW

[warm vortex]

I’m so happy reprimand is gone

[shy marten]

and i mean you just do ur ST as best you can and it should be very enough on an 14

[normal mist]

Not with that attitude hehehe

[subtle tundra]

im so sad youre typing

[warm vortex]

Like not having it a few weeks

Feels nice

[warm vortex]

X)

[kindred hinge]

That's how I did it in 13, but now everyone want an aug, and I'd rather have DK + Sham rather than Aug +Sham on that particular burst 😦

[warm vortex]

Aug was a mistake

Why couldn’t they have made evoker DPS/Tank/Heal

Would have been so much cooler

[kindred hinge]

Key holder is aug 😄

But enh / aug / rogue work fine for a lot of key, just this one in particular stinks a bit

[subtle tundra]

ive been fine with aug

[kindred hinge]

I am not as good as you kappa so aug doesn't amplify my damage as much/amplify my fail. No trust in aug in pug tbh

[subtle tundra]

i do piss shit dmg

LOL

ok tbh

[warm vortex]

We know

Jk love you varas

[subtle tundra]

the elemental shaman is doubling my boss dmg

[silver wyvern]

What are the overall damage in keys like 13-14 ?

[subtle tundra]

on that boss

so........

[warm vortex]

2.2 mil if it were my guess?

Varies a lot

[shy marten]

what's wrong with enh fdk assa

[warm vortex]

Like a LOT tho

[subtle tundra]

and i dont oversell it when i say double

[kindred hinge]

Depend to much to route /comp/ key to give you an estimate

[silver wyvern]

Spymaster's babyyyy

[warm vortex]

Key comp, dungeon, time and such

[warm vortex]

Exactly

[keen spruce]

anywhere from like 1.6-2.6m

too variable

[silver wyvern]

but can we say expected damage is between like 1.8m to 2.2m i guees ?

[kindred hinge]

Can be lower can be higher

[warm vortex]

Bruh I have to stay at uni for 8 hours today
Longest uni day of the week

Also here’s a tip if your cat keeps going on your keyboard during a run