assassination

[violet berry]

Was doing a 14 and told the pugs I didn’t have stealth so I couldn’t kidney I think I got put on a blacklist

[spice spire]

[hollow river]

you use it to CC things

iirc you can use AoE blind on a mob to handle the m+ affix

[abstract flower]

yeah but we got ghost week

[spice spire]

It’s also a good stop for oopsie moments

And good for if the beam in gb goes off, you stop it so they start casting something different

[balmy condor]

@wild lantern madam boss lady mom this evil human is spitting vile words about your shamans profession

[hollow river]

CC has a lot of uses

[balmy condor]

How tf you get into 14’s with a dent in your head like that

[abstract flower]

im so busy barely passing the rota and keeping my dots up, i dont really think about CCing stuff atm

[gloomy heart]

Does normal silken court give runed crests?

[abstract flower]

-o.o-

ehhhh i think no

hero does

myth gives gilded

[balmy condor]

Yes

[abstract flower]

😮

[gloomy heart]

hero gives gilded too

last 2 bosses

so i assumed

runed for court

GIGA BRAIN

[balmy condor]

Correct

Last 2 drop crests from the higher difficulty

[abstract flower]

[violet berry]

I’m almost 3100 😂 I play well I’m just slightly dumb

[balmy condor]

If it works it works

[spice spire]

Bro stop I literally

Did keys with this terrorist this week

[balmy condor]

That’s my boss you’re talking about man

Have some respect

[spice spire]

Absolutely not

She ain’t my boss

“I have to fight every fiber of my being to pull when you say don’t pull”

[balmy condor]

Okay but that’s just average tank voices

[spice spire]

Honestly

True

[fringe sierra]

For you high key runners for assa you guys running vers with you gear?

[balmy condor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/747561446539395205/1025436517193236540/mirror.gif

[plain ridge]

is there a way to make plater bar bigger if target has mark?

[balmy condor]

There’s probably some script or mod that could do that

[wild lantern]

what am I doing now?

[balmy condor]

Should be doable with lua

[balmy condor]

Quake speaketh evil about thee m’lady

[wild lantern]

I probably deserved it tbh

[balmy condor]

I mean yeah

[stray adder]

tank getting kid aggro mid key is cringe

[gray sleet]

Sometimes i have a blue CP at the beggining what is thatt?

[stray adder]

supercharger

you probably have an outdated weakaura

[gray sleet]

maybr

oh no

i'm playing supercharger

[stray adder]

it doesn't need to be tracked anymore, it's still showing up because it's the same logic as the old ER

[gloomy heart]

i love silken

just a normal but damn

[balmy condor]

Holy your raid is afk

Why is there a tank in 7th

[gloomy heart]

yeah idk i had a dev do

[vast patio]

A good tank would be beating all of them >.>

[gloomy heart]

30mil in 3mins

idk wtf happened

bro was spamming azure strike

LOL

[vast patio]

you don't get it man

devastation evoker is super complex

/snort

[novel star]

man

im havocposting in the sin channel idgaf

[gloomy heart]

felt like i was playing blizzcon game 7 finals the whole fight

[novel star]

what is going on with this trinket

[balmy condor]

Big critta

[novel star]

brotha

i had one normal hit out of 4 casts

but its on the shield add on ansurek

so its fully scaled i think

cus that add doesnt have any hp

500k more damage on the normal hit

seems fine asf

nvm logs say its 100% crit details scam

[oak pollen]

Yo guys, how do you pool your energy? I tried to farm CP and w8 for like 50~70% energy or envenom pandemic, but its not working as i was told. Saw some top rogues and i cant figure out how they actually do it

:'c

[novel star]

pooling is kinda fake news now

i mean u do wait for envenom pandemic ideally but thats it

and "waiting" for envenom pandemic is often just slamming it because of ttk xd

[oak pollen]

gotcha

but

[gloomy hinge]

how do i use my cds in massive ara kara pulls? specifically like the first one i guess?

I dont do more than like 3 mill or 4

[novel star]

same way u use ur cds in any other pull

set up bleeds -> caustic -> dm kb -> mash envenoms

[gloomy hinge]

So stealth, garrote garrote rupture rupture crimson tempest Caustic application

[novel star]

and vanish for MA now ig

[oak pollen]

when i spam mutilate and envenom, i ran out of energy everytime and if i w8 to 50~70% energy i always drop something, either dots or envenom

[gloomy hinge]

Pop deathmark kingsbane?

[novel star]

well you need to ambush first gcd if youre deathstalker

and theres garrotes between the 2nd rupture and the ct

but yes

[gloomy hinge]

I usually Ambush 5th GCD

On deathstalker

[novel star]

i guess with subt it works

same shit

[gloomy hinge]

Yeah

[stray adder]

you're not gonna go high in the first pull since it takes 3 business days to group up the pack

[gloomy hinge]

so i wrote my rotation a bit wrong

[oak pollen]

lmao

[gloomy hinge]

well, I've seen zerocool pop for 8 mill or so on it

[stray adder]

are you zerocool?

[gloomy hinge]

no?

But i shouldnt be WAY too far off

got kinda huge stats so i should kinda pump no?

[stray adder]

how long have you been playing sin

[gloomy hinge]

I've been playing rogue for 2 weeks

[gloomy heart]

bro looks similar to mine

[stray adder]

yeah

[gloomy heart]

wtf..

[arctic socket]

Socketed your items noob

[gloomy hinge]

wuut?

[stray adder]

honestly bro stuff just gets obliterated in +11s, can't compare it to a +16

[gloomy hinge]

its a visual bug

i have sockets in all of them

[gloomy hinge]

I mean true i guess

Fair point

[stray adder]

we're a ramping spec so if a ret paly just go bap bap

[gloomy hinge]

my struggle in 12's is survivability lol

[stray adder]

you won't go to 8m

[gloomy hinge]

;CCC

[stray adder]

yeah things hurt in +12

@copper hazel also do you play with a Aug evoker?

because he does

[arctic socket]

13+ is when I noticed a difference with survival

[gloomy hinge]

ah no i dont

I play with double shaman prot pala and a balance

the strangest comp

[abstract flower]

BIG oof

[vocal bobcat]

if im at 4-5 combo points do I spend if I don't have darkest night or do I go for max combo points?

[slate crown]

if you're at 4 combo points you mutilate/fan

5+ you spend

[vocal bobcat]

awesome thank you

[abstract flower]

what is this name

[stray adder]

I mean it's pretty clear

[abstract flower]

real money vendor?

[stray adder]

wut

[slate crown]

ngl I did have to think about what rmv meant for a second

before I got it

[stray adder]

not enough space

[abstract flower]

i still dont get it ur not helpfull lisonna

[slate crown]

damn

[coral ibex]

LMAO

get fucking told

[stray adder]

the hatred is real

[coral ibex]

THUMBS DOWN

[slate crown]

I got fucking destroyed

[coral ibex]

im cackling

[slate crown]

MODS help

[coral ibex]

[abstract flower]

[stray adder]

"Remove racial abilities so I can race change"

[abstract flower]

why remove when u could make them a choice

[stray adder]

yeah you know what

sure

[abstract flower]

[stray adder]

let me not try to explain something that is very easy to understand

[slate crown]

or you can go buy some gleeful glamours

[stray adder]

Dwarf-bound until Stoneform is gone

[abstract flower]

dwarf could have straight up 25% bonus dmg

and i woulndt play it

[cobalt haven]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-javi-gutierrez-pedro-pascal-the-unbearable-weight-of-massive-talent-happy-gif-25135496

Me using hekili to play assass like a rythm game

[abstract flower]

https://tenor.com/view/your-name-chuck-nice-startalk-your-identity-your-nickname-gif-21983996

[stray adder]

ohh hell no

well that's your fault

[abstract flower]

https://tenor.com/view/innocent-angel-perfect-gif-4980484

[tacit nest]

Is nelf even much of a gain when playing without a trace?

[stray adder]

nah shadowmeld is kinda bad

[nova kelp]

Smeld is used for cheesing targetted mechanics mostly

It used to have some prominence as a dps skill but since it's not REAL stealth that's not REALLY a thing.

[tacit nest]

I mean on M+ it is for trash ig? But ye playing wat makes it seem kinda hmmm

[stray adder]

you can drop WaT and grab 1/2 lethality

[nova kelp]

On trash yeah you can do the old smeld into stealth yeah. But really overall that's kinda more meh than people would imagine

Or we'd all be constantly saying "omg without a trace is the goat!"

[tacit nest]

ye it's pretty underwhelming

[burnt zodiac]

What should i drop for iron wire?

w

[oak tangle]

sanguine blades or sudden demise

i personally drop sudden demise

[burnt zodiac]

prob gonna do the same

[nova kelp]

Just drop all of the reset combat skills and go full chain pulling build

Then you don't have to stress anymore about what the tank does 🙃

[oak tangle]

wat

[burnt zodiac]

is there an actual chain build

bc puggin is annoying with that

[oak tangle]

i mean IF there was one, it would do the opposite to what the guy above said

[stray adder]

ignore everything you just red about a chain pulling build

[burnt zodiac]

lmao figured

Thought of swapping to outlaw JUST because tanks just keep chaining packs

[oak tangle]

outlaw is worse

[burnt zodiac]

and that shit sucks with trying to multi-dot

[oak tangle]

😄

[nova kelp]

It's most definitely a thing you can do

[stray adder]

if tank doesn't let you restealth just type in chat: "let me restealth fucking griefer"

chain pulling done right is fine but walking into another pack when everything is at 5% is not it

[tacit nest]

btw. what was the void elf change to the heal/dmg on patch notes

[oak tangle]

you should never have to ask a tank to let you restealth

just deal with it, use a vanish charge if you must

[vast patio]

I wish they'd chain pull all at once and not 2s before I get my stealth ffs

[oak tangle]

it saves you like 3 gcd's

to restealth

all your damage is spatter and envenom

dont stress about restealth

it's nice, but not neccessary

[rotund oak]

Dungeon Slice ye.The 5 target patchwreck 1min sim makes no sense for rogue unless u are simming specific pull/scenarios

[vast patio]

I feel like I'm botching something on st but probs gonna wait for my full set of crest upgrades before bothering with a log review

Like I run out of thistles and I'm just out of gas

[stray adder]

in raid or m+

[vast patio]

M+ on bosses primarily. Aoe I'm wrecking.

[stray adder]

it's normal

we are energy starved outside of cds

[burnt zodiac]

how is it 3 globals

[stray adder]

in m+

[vast patio]

Affix probably isn't helping

[rotund oak]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom

• For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[graceful stump]

finally killed Zekvir on my assassination rogue on ??

[vast patio]

Pog

[oak tangle]

rather than 2 ruptures, youhave to cast 5

[amber fossil]

can I ask a simple macro question here

[graceful stump]

was gonna give in and do it on my pally but was able to down him 😄

[vast patio]

What would yall run if carrying rat keys for a friend? Like ma/sang/sudden/bs? Imagine little twist value

[oak tangle]

rat 10's? orr

[vast patio]

Like sub 7 for a brand new tank alt of theirs

[oak tangle]

oh, 100% sudden demise

[vast patio]

I'm funneling leather

[stray adder]

yeah SD for sure

I would also run TTK

I'm not a fan of SB

[oak tangle]

arguably you could lean into the bleeds a bit more

but i dont think it's necessary

[vast patio]

Maybe ttk for Tyr and sb for fort?

[stray adder]

no point to juggle, 7s are free

things die in 5sec

[amber fossil]

so I made a simple macro to use a potion and when I put it on my bar the icon shows that I have zero lvl1 pots, but I shift clicked the lvl2 pots in my bag to make the macro

[vast patio]

Oh I know I'm just bored lol

[stray adder]

you should also speed up your opener

otherwise you won't do shit

[vast patio]

Ye

[amber fossil]

it's simply "/use Tempered Potion"

[vast patio]

I want to use MA but I feel like every build I try without it is better.

[stray adder]

post your talent tree

[oak tangle]

can look up the item ID

[vast patio]

I'm not ingame atm but it's basically what casual is running atm

[stray adder]

MA is really good with subt, idk what you're running that sims higher than MA

[oak tangle]

rank 3 - 212265
rank 2 - 212264
rank 1 - 212263

[vast patio]

I'm not running subt atm

[stray adder]

I mean you have to run subt with MA

[vast patio]

Oh well yeah when I was running subt I had it

[gloomy heart]

good tank makes life easy

[stray adder]

holy that ret is a bot

[oak tangle]

/use item:212265

for example

[amber fossil]

so why is it looking for a lvl1 pot that I dotn have instead of the lvl2 pots I made the macro with? This has never happened before

[vast patio]

All rets are bots

[gloomy heart]

only 2 deaths was him

[vast patio]

But good lord

[gloomy heart]

only a 8 though

dont expect goats

[rotund oak]

relog if ur rank 1 pots are out,it will automatically reread ur stash for the r2

[stray adder]

good pumps for a 8

the dk was pumping

[rotund oak]

unless u link rank 2s on ur macro

[oak tangle]

my assumption would be because you have no rank assigned to it, which means it likely takes the first one in your bags

[rotund oak]

which will be rank 2 specific

[gloomy heart]

yeah killed everything b4 i got damage out

[amber fossil]

but I dotn have any lvl1 in my bag, only lvl2

[quartz dew]

does your macro do anything other than use the potion

[oak tangle]

use the /use item:####### macro

[rotund oak]

yes but when u pressed them u had

[rotund oak]

also this

[vast patio]

So is nelf a trap becayse I'm just kinda sick of panda, and dig nelf transmogs.

[oak tangle]

the wowhead URL has item id's in it

[gloomy heart]

GO DWARF

[vast patio]

NO

[gloomy heart]

YES

its the play

[vast patio]

FUCK YOU

[stray adder]

nelf is bait

[rotund oak]

😂

[gloomy heart]

like dwarf looks so sick

[amber fossil]

this worked, ty kindly, I was loosing mind wondering wth was going on

[stray adder]

mcglizzy is a good name ngl

[rotund oak]

happy to help friend 🙂

[oak tangle]

i still suggest doing what i said, or you will have the issue again 😄

[vast patio]

I'd go Tauren rogue for the memes if I was content with being uggo

[gloomy heart]

cousin is like a teenager and named himself mcflurry so my friends troll him and call him mcglizzy, so i just named myself this

[stray adder]

I mean tauren rogue is very good

[vast patio]

Oh yeah same insane crit racial

[stray adder]

yeah

[gloomy heart]

dwarf isnt ugly tho,,,,

[rotund oak]

its not a top model either

😂

but ye its based

[stray adder]

I would go dracthyr if it wasn't for the racials

goofy gecko rogue

[gloomy heart]

go dwarf and buy these

[vast patio]

For me it's dracthyr vs nelf and the only thing dragon has going for it is I get to stay horde

[amber fossil]

it does... 2 min cd and use trink

[stray adder]

I don't think I want the double jump on rogue though

[vast patio]

It trolls sometimes when I play fire mage lol

[stray adder]

yeah no way that's good for fire mage

[quartz dew]

assumed so, just incase you had made a macro instead of just slapping the pots on your bar :D

[vast patio]

It's not -bad- because you can still cast but oof

[stray adder]

that would annoy the f outta me

[amber fossil]

was having the same issue on all chars, so I did a test with only using potion

[vast patio]

I want my free extra vanish 😦

[rotund oak]

The biggest thing u can get on a rogue from racials based on the weakness of the class is human or dwarf.Human Eliminates the ''die-on-a-stun'' condition that applies both in pve and pvp or remove the ''die-to-bleeds'' condition which is the dwarf racial.

[stray adder]

is that a chatgpt answer

or are you just cooking

[rotund oak]

no thats me multitasking at work

😄

[stray adder]

W sap

[balmy condor]

W name

[rotund oak]

true,i do have the best name

pure psychology

[balmy condor]

Yeah zilla

Like Godzilla

In reference to the size of your lizard of course

[stray adder]

⏸️

[vast patio]

https://tenor.com/view/nah-id-win-gif-13618771096516831524

[stray adder]

I saw the Godzilla vs King kong movie not too long ago that shit was straight ass

[balmy condor]

I’m trying to rizz a gyatt rn lil bro can you not fanum tax me rn

[vast patio]

Ban yourself

[balmy condor]

Understandable

[gloomy heart]

^

[gloomy hinge]

isnt sudden demise dogshit pad damage?

[stray adder]

is that cultural appropriation

[balmy condor]

No?

[oak tangle]

depends how low you go in keys

but like no

[short flint]

what are ppl using the 2nd vanish for on without a trace in m+

[vast patio]

It touch of deaths the mobs

[gloomy hinge]

11-12's i guess

[vast patio]

Speaking of touch of death, does it respect mitigation

[rotund oak]

do they call it cultural appropriation now

[vast patio]

Sudden demise that is

[gloomy hinge]

dont see alot of high io rogues running it

[balmy condor]

Like the execute is maybe some pad, but it still speeds up the end of pulls

And it isn’t even simulated

[oak tangle]

read the context of the conversation before qutoing bro

[vast patio]

Well on a high key it's way less value

[balmy condor]

The sims only account for 10% bleed

[oak tangle]

he was asking talents for 7's and lower

[gloomy hinge]

the execute is waht i mean about the pad yeah

[balmy condor]

So like when we evaluate sudden demise

It’s giga ethical

[slate crown]

I love framing some talents as ethical

[vast patio]

Aren't we unethical by design

We stab people in the eyes and proceed to bleed them as we punch their kidneys

[stray adder]

I am epilectable

[gloomy hinge]

pfft using kidney is a dps loss

count me out

[vast patio]

Ur mom is a dps loss

[rotund oak]

😂

[gloomy hinge]

I'll trade your mom for my mom

[vast patio]

Deal

[stray adder]

we don't do mom trades

over here

[gloomy hinge]

Ok, huge

[gloomy hinge]

It's already done

get fucked

[vast patio]

It's the feds

Take kiwi he's cringe

[stray adder]

"cancel order"

put her back in the box

[rotund oak]

no refunds sry

[median igloo]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
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Whispyr's Plater

[vast patio]

Low keys as assassination are at least fun

[gloomy hinge]

Listen up bud, I'll touch you

[vast patio]

Doing low keys with the arcane mage is just sad

[gloomy hinge]

HELL no low keys as ass is pain

u dont get to play

before everything is dead

[vast patio]

Nah arcane is the real tank damage experience

When your touch target evaporates on a small pull

[rotund oak]

thats why u either frost or fire and accidentally pull half the map

[vast patio]

Fire on low keys is at least funny

[rotund oak]

u bust and everything dies in2 secs man

as frost u can at least watch them die in 5

[vast patio]

Struggle for all the mage specs

All your damage is in long cds that are super overkill

[gloomy hinge]

time to get seal from timewalk quest

[rotund oak]

yup

[gloomy hinge]

nah thats a scam

i saw green

[vast patio]

Meanwhile as long as our tanks don't troll we're gucci

[stray adder]

mage players can f off

[vast patio]

I'm usually a warlock

Is that better

[rotund oak]

im usually a rogue but melee kinda cringe this tier

[stray adder]

pardon

[vast patio]

Rogue is always like my prime alt

[gloomy hinge]

tanks troll how?

[vast patio]

I just gave monk a chance and was let down earlier

Chain pulling stupidly so no stealth

[gloomy hinge]

play double vanish

[vast patio]

What if I turn into a tree elf

[gloomy hinge]

double vanish is the best way to play in pugs

despite what sims say

[vast patio]

I mean I get it.

I just got used to the twist build when I was spamming Boralus for spyglass

Just messing around and such eh

[gloomy hinge]

Twist the knife?

That shit is the shit

[rotund oak]

its the way to actually keep urself sane

kinda obvious

[gloomy hinge]

yesssir

I refuse to apply bleeds for 20 seconds

before starting my rotation

or priority whatever

[gloomy hinge]

are you

seriously playing

raid shadow legends? XD

[tawdry halo]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

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Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[rotund oak]

im just happy to garx2=>rupx2=>tank decides to pull more?==>vanish=>repeat=>send cds=>make everyone mad with ur dps

yes i do,im a big boy

as in raid big boi

[gloomy hinge]

until you have a shaman or frost dk to steal all your damage

by nuking the mobs

well also theres balance druid ig lmao

[rotund oak]

those mofos cant even see me coming

too smol with ponytails

(mechagnome tech)

[gloomy hinge]

ew

mechagnome

[rotund oak]

(yes i feel disgusting)

[gloomy hinge]

never will i ever

[blazing summit]

Is Treacherous Transmitter better than Skardyn's Grace? in mythic+

[rotund oak]

no

skadryns is the best sin trinket

for every pve-type content

[gloomy hinge]

i hit it big

Started playing rogue 2 weeks ago got it in the second vault

[blazing summit]

The first boss' damage in Mists of Tirna Scithe is too weak.

[gloomy hinge]

now im just hunting a ritual dagger :c

[blazing summit]

im trying 16+

[gloomy hinge]

i dont want this shit

[rotund oak]

it has speed roll

[stray adder]

why are you trying to get a ritual knife over any other mythic track option

[rotund oak]

huge crystal acutally

[gloomy hinge]

626 shadow binding beats alot of stuff

[warm ravine]

when breaking stealth do you tab target garrotes or just double tap your target?

[gloomy hinge]

at 626 it is equal to a 639 crystal

[gloomy hinge]

personally i just double tap

Dont need to spread more than 4 ruptures tbh

[warm ravine]

how does the tab target effectivly work? I'm confused on it what abilities to tab > use > tab use

[gloomy hinge]

and more garrotes will just be overkill for energy

[stray adder]

5 you mean

[gloomy hinge]

Main bleed damage is from crimson tempest i believe

[gloomy hinge]

5 yes right

4 x 5

[warm ravine]

but that spreads on it own right?

[gloomy hinge]

yes

just an aoe

[warm ravine]

so just keep that up and splash onto other targets?

hwo do i keep garrotes up? by useing vanish?

[stray adder]

I don't tab but it's a damage increase on 6+ targets

[gloomy hinge]

If you play double vanish u could

Using your one and only vanish doubtfully worth

[warm ravine]

so what essentially is the tab target portion then

I'm hearin ga lot of it but not really seeing it in actino.

action*

[gloomy hinge]

I think most people just dont

[stray adder]

honestly tabbing is suboptimal, you should just have a mouseover macro for rupture/gar

if you wanna minmax in 6+ target situations

[thick sail]

@balmy condor does the simulator accurately take into account wanting to have one of each of the 4 gem types (emerald, ruby, onyx, amber) if you have Binding of Binding equipped?

[warm ravine]

what would you be essentially tab tageting to apply thoght, thats what im confused. THat and on the ramp / shiv for cuastic dmg.

[stray adder]

if you rupture your main target twice, you're gonna have 5 ruptures up vs 6 if your second rupture is on a target that doesn't have it

but SoB requires 5 ruptures for maximum effect

the 6th rupture is just slightly more dps

it's more useful for garrotte imo

but even that

[warm ravine]

okay cool that makese sense.

ty

do you enver shiv 2x ina row?

[stray adder]

we don't run double shiv in m+

[gloomy hinge]

No

Never

If ujr in raid u do it right after ringsbane

then again after 7-8 sec

[rotund oak]

for raid u do it before pressing KB and last ticks of kb

to cover its full effect

[warm ravine]

so normal prio would be in aoe FoN and envenom until you need to re apply rupture?

[rotund oak]

its dm=>shiv=>kb=>...==>shiv=>..

[gloomy hinge]

well true ig, but not that much of a difference as kingsbane is utterly useless before it ramps up

[stray adder]

but hey @warm ravine , I think we have a command for your tabbing question

!carnage

[prisma monolith]

Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

• The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
• You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

[slate crown]

There's a checkbox in the gem section you can check off to tell it to go for the 4 colors.

[warm ravine]

thats explains a lot

[bronze pike]

you need 3 more for the 7 chaos emeralds to work

also yes it should

[gloomy heart]

sheeeesh

[vast patio]

I probably need to get a new plater. Mine can be a mess.

But I don't like the one in the command

[stray adder]

Cev's plater is pretty good imo

[vast patio]

I'll save that one it looks like I might like it.

[warm ravine]

is there a link to taht one? or a namei can search? Cev's Plater?

[stray adder]

I use Atrocity's but that's a paid UI so can't share

[vast patio]

Been using this minimalistic lock one since late bfa and switching will be hard for me lol

[stray adder]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[stray adder]

second to last

[vast patio]

I use naowh's ui but I hate his plater profile

[stray adder]

I tried naowh's once and I hated it

the whole UI

is giga mid

[vast patio]

I love the ui x.x

[stray adder]

Atrocity > Naowh

[vast patio]

My favorite ui ever was vacant's

But it bugs out every expac and it's annoying to set up

[thick sail]

Oh, very neat, I will give that a try!

[vast patio]

Half tempted to try it again but I'm so used to naowh's at this point.

[stray adder]

I mean

it's just better

[thick sail]

I don't think it does without checking specific boxes, because I simmed it with Binding of Binding and it suggested all red gems lol

[warm ravine]

is it important to track your KB dmg anymore or?

i have an OLD WA from DF still lol

[still stirrup]

Was it ever important?

[vast patio]

How do you get it? Twitch sub?

I could mess with it when I'm bored

[stray adder]

discord sub now I think

[still stirrup]

Twitch/patreon/discord

[vast patio]

Boo

[still stirrup]

$5 a month

Or just pay a month when you want it

[stray adder]

for a very well maintained UI

[still stirrup]

Yea for sure, its a nice UI

[vast patio]

I'll look into it but only thing I want to change atm is the plater.

[stray adder]

I'm at a point where I wanna drop it because elvUI hurts performance

but it's so easy to set up

[vast patio]

Might grab atrocity after my next mass addon purge

Scorched earth to fix the load times

[stray adder]

what

[vast patio]

Every other expac I do a mass addon purge.

[stray adder]

I mean what is scorched earth

wdym by that

[vast patio]

Burn it all down, no survivors

[stray adder]

ohhh

[vast patio]

This was vacant's.

[stray adder]

raid frames on the right is some demonic shit

[vast patio]

That definitely took getting used to

And getting un-used to

[burnt zodiac]

Currently using Naowh's, but this looks great. I just like having 3 rows of bars with 12 in each bc i bind 1-12, shift 1-12, and alt 1-12

like dis

[rotund oak]

why dont u have 1 bar with mod macros

would save u the space

binds the same

[pearl steppe]

hey when doing normal content like delves and dungeons is it just spamming fan of knives and crimson tempest most of the time?

feels like i have all this single target dmg but no single targets live long enough for that to matter

[stray adder]

sap has 1-0 and shift+1-0 💀

[rotund oak]

i have mod macros for everything but currently using like 40%

[oak tangle]

you dont spam crimson, you keep it active, and you intersperse fan of knives with mutilate to apply caustic, and you spam envenom

[rotund oak]

i also used to do highrated pvp

[pearl steppe]

ok thanks that helps

[stray adder]

is that any different from low rated pvp

for keybinds

[rotund oak]

yes it is,a far cry actually

[pearl steppe]

so build combo points with muti and fan, pop tempest and then just do points -> envenom from there

[oak tangle]

pretty much, you should also have your bleeds out

[pearl steppe]

yeah i do open from stealth with ambush and garrote

and i just specced into the thing that lets me garrote multiple times out of stealth

[stray adder]

yeah I mean it's more deep than what you described

[pearl steppe]

is ElvUI good

or do people have their own recommendations

[stray adder]

it's good but will affect performance

[pearl steppe]

I have a pretty great pc

[stray adder]

it's not a PC problem

[pearl steppe]

oh?

optimization problems?

[stray adder]

yes

[pearl steppe]

i see

what do you use?

[stray adder]

ElvUI

lmao

[pearl steppe]

lol

[stray adder]

I like it too much to drop it but I know the downsides

[gloomy heart]

if i time a 10 mists only, will i only get myth track mists loot from vault

[subtle tundra]

nope!

[regal linden]

that's irrelevant, you get one item from a large pool including every drop from all seasonal dungeon

[gloomy heart]

pog

myth track skardyns inc

[subtle tundra]

☝️

yes!

[umbral sierra]

how do i tell if one dude is targeting me with ball of purple bs. not the boss but lt. friend said u have a purple x over ur head but i didnt see shit

also no dbm call out lol

[pulsar elk]

whats the best way to use "without a trace"

[umbral sierra]

reup imp gar, or to access gar silence

also reup aoe gar aoe rup and reup master assa and make gar give 3 cp and not just 1

[west crown]

Or if tank chain pulls

Trigger masterassassin if you run it during kingsbane

[umbral sierra]

^

or cry bc everytime u set up a kb

U CANT SHIV BC THE BOSS TELLS U TO GO TO NARNIA BC OF SOME BS MECHANIC

[west crown]

shadowmeld

[umbral sierra]

cant shadowmeld a frontal breath swirly whirlwind poison spit on the floor

[west crown]

Skill issue

[umbral sierra]

true

meanwhile im getting yelled at for droping rashanan web patch under the boss bc i wanted to get my perfect 8second kb shiv

[gloomy heart]

can’t you just see the cast and know to be ready to move ?

if this is abt dawnbreaker

[subtle tundra]

whats the problem? shit like this happens all the time

its part of the game

you delay shiv#

its ok

better than wiping

fuck your dps

[gloomy heart]

real question is how tf do i get a good parse against people who are 10 ilvls above me

i’m only 622

[subtle tundra]

you get better gear

[gloomy heart]

how do i get better gear if i can’t mythic raid bc ppl want giga parsers

[subtle tundra]

you dont need to mythic raid to be 630+

vaults + crafts

is enough

[gloomy heart]

hmm tru

I could prob lfg to 2nd boss and get dagger first try

isn’t offhand the most useless item we have

[drifting cloud]

do you do 10s for weeklies?

or well even if you dont, sparks have started to pile up

like im 633 and Ive gotten 2 items from raid, a boe and a dagger, rest is from vaults

and my crests arent even capped

[gloomy heart]

i did a 10 this week

i’ll do more tomorrow prob

to fill up vault

What boe ?

[drifting cloud]

the shoulders

theres also a belt

and a ring but its high vers so you prob dont want that

[gloomy heart]

Link char

[drifting cloud]

whats there to link, only thing that matters is how many weeks have you had myth track in vault

you can craft bracers, belt, boots and rings if you really wanted to

[gloomy heart]

Just curious to see your gear

[split dust]

!pool

[inner scroll]

Has anybody a tipp how to get into 12s keys? Got 630 ilvl 2.7xx rio but getting now invite, have done all 11s

The only Option i see is to play my own key..is this just bad luck or a common problem as assa rogue?

[split dust]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom

• For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[gloomy heart]

only option is own key prob

then see if that group would do other keys

etc

[runic hinge]

ur noob and hiding it

[still stirrup]

Make a witty note when applying?

[abstract flower]

yes or a witty title

[inner scroll]

Like "inv im cute"?

[abstract flower]

called my +8 necrotic "ONLY COOL PEOPLE" and 3x 3k nerds joined "i saw title and had to join he says"

[still stirrup]

Gotta see what works

[abstract flower]

just for a shit tank to ruin my +10 gb

xD

[gloomy heart]

i love gb (copium kicking in)

[abstract flower]

i love gb till it drops trinket

[gloomy heart]

yeah i never wanna go back but i need io so

rip

[abstract flower]

you open GB and like 30 people insta apply

just tanks dont

😄

[alpine vapor]

hey, quite new to assa, have a quick question. In the wowhead guide it says I should use fan of knives even in single target when I have Clear The Witnesses up, so I did that. But when I threw my kyveza log into wowanalyzer it screamed at me saying I should only use fan of knives at 3+ targets. Is WowA just not up to date?

[frank radish]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/AjgX2t6BwcaNHTLW#fight=4&type=damage-done

ret raged at me at key end “I am a paladin with 636 weapon, why you beat me?”

[drifting cloud]

sounds like something a guy with 0 enchants in a +4 would say

[still stirrup]

I wouldn't worry about it too much

[abstract flower]

wowA always with a pinch of salt

[gloomy heart]

can i see now

[abstract flower]

nice damage 😮

[alpine vapor]

ok nice so i do keep using it even in st, right? that was my main issue

[umbral sierra]

idk i was just standing on the mob so the second it formed it hit me ig idek

[drifting cloud]

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en_gb/character/eu/kazzak/Ryler im not sure what youre trying to see, like I said if you can do 10s the only thing keeping you from 635 is time

[slate crown]

Yes, unless you take vicious venoms (which we don't really take anymore)

[drifting cloud]

its just 8 weeks of vault gear

[umbral sierra]

but delay shiv means 1 shiv per minute and missing the whole point of shiv making kb go brrrty

kb not doing damage with shiv up fucks ur st dam

[gloomy heart]

easier for me to see

[subtle tundra]

ok?

you use shiv 3 seconds later

[still stirrup]

But wiping the raid is better?

[subtle tundra]

not never

[umbral sierra]

after kb has fallen off or is at 3 seconds left

[subtle tundra]

i give up

idk

[umbral sierra]

but the kb dam is already fucked bc u missed uptime to proc more kb stacks

[gloomy heart]

just do a backflip while you kingsbane you noobs

[umbral sierra]

idk assa is fun for m+ when its aoe but the second its a boss i wanna curt cobain

[gloomy heart]

I like some bosses

[umbral sierra]

we didnt wipe i just had it on the edge while still in meleerange

[gloomy heart]

first boss in GB pisses me off

[umbral sierra]

so we just had to stack the melee

the only boss i have fun on is 2nd boss in threads

[gloomy heart]

First boss of mists isn’t bad

[umbral sierra]

its not until everytank doesnt move them out of the blue shit

so its either stand on tank and get hit with frontal or dont hit boss

[gloomy heart]

i hate the mobs before the boss though

[abstract flower]

just 8 weeks pepecopeoverdose

[umbral sierra]

master machinist wouldnt be bad if 1 dude didnt decide to not be apart of the fight 50% of the time

[gloomy heart]

if we roll the dice well each vault possible

[still stirrup]

Well until blizzard makes all bosses stand together and do nothing, you are gonig to have to do some mechanics

Its not classic

[abstract flower]

i got 80 this week

[umbral sierra]

its just a mix of st already feels dog shit mixed with tanks pulling the boss with mobs from a previous pack and u dont have any vanish charges and its a boss so rip smeld

[abstract flower]

but i already got my 10er done

[abstract flower]

yeah and they flame low dps

😄

[umbral sierra]

THIS

[abstract flower]

tbf my dps really bad

but even worse when they do shit like this

and then i get tilted

[oak tangle]

:/

[umbral sierra]

nah the highest pure st m+ boss dam i did was 800k

[abstract flower]

and then even lower dps

[oak tangle]

y'all just dont know how to paly if these are issues

[abstract flower]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-brah-rip-rest-in-piece-rest-in-peace-brah-gif-27633084

[oak tangle]

like i wish i could help, but the chainpull rhetoric is old and false

[abstract flower]

never claimed i did

might switch to outlaw

[umbral sierra]

how so. chain pull with the xalatath bs mob up and ur mark falls off no vanish gg deathstalker

[abstract flower]

YES OMG AND THEN THE MOB SPAWNS

[umbral sierra]

then u wont get invites to anythign ngl

[oak tangle]

how is your mark falling off?

[abstract flower]

just change talents in instance

[umbral sierra]

kill mob, try to kill xalatath spawn which im the only one on as tank is charging into boss

[abstract flower]

also, why?

[oak tangle]

if the mob is taking 20s to die

you have bigger issues

[umbral sierra]

yeah 1 dps being on it lol

[oak tangle]

but i still dont get how you lose your mark

[umbral sierra]

even with it not falling, a tank running into a boss and forcing me to vanish instead of litereally waiting .1 second for a stealth combat drop

is troll af

[jolly heath]

hey guys, how we deal with silken tomb in queen without being gnome?

i can see 1st and 4th can be cloaked

2nd can be vanish

what about 3rd

[oak tangle]

ask for blessing of freedom

or postion so it gets cleaved

[umbral sierra]

smeld maybe works idk i dont raid

[oak tangle]

meld doesnt

it needs to be snare / root removal

[umbral sierra]

can also run 2x vanish

[jolly heath]

if no freedom, gnome angle?

[oak tangle]

🤮

[umbral sierra]

are u not alrady stacked in melee so it gets cleaved?

[frank radish]

Ty!

[jolly heath]

just wanna make things easier

[oak tangle]

not sure if you are talking Mythic or Heroic

[jolly heath]

mythic

[abstract flower]

is the sketchy talent tree from the wowhead guide? 😄

[oak tangle]

unless there is no one else on your team that gets rooted, i wouldnt change

[drifting cloud]

the overlap on the 3rd one isnt bad you can get broken out there, your only option is gnome since the other stuff is probably priod on other people

[jolly heath]

I see

[balmy condor]

nice {spec} {class}, {0} ilvl

[umbral sierra]

is there a petition to let us choose between auto tea on and off

[balmy condor]

no

[frank radish]

Yeah, I am no theorycrafter 😂 I click copy-paste and then press buttons

[umbral sierra]

so tired of having to do math mid fight of if this ability will force me to tea or not

[balmy condor]

what's a "sketchy" talent tree

[umbral sierra]

and if ur trying not to proc auto tea u effectivly throw away 30 energy

[drifting cloud]

unless your guild is playing multiple hunters, 3+ palas or monks you usually just dont really have anything to assign

[abstract flower]

looks a lil sketchy

[balmy condor]

I mean he dropped iron wire

the rest is insanely standard

[umbral sierra]

i dont blame him. tanks dont let us use it anyways

[oak tangle]

math?

[winged torrent]

Any tips on soloing Zekvir?? I’m at ilvl 212 rn

[balmy condor]

I ain't sayin that

[oak tangle]

? or ??

[winged torrent]

??

[balmy condor]

212? get another 420 ilvl

[winged torrent]

I’m trying to get the mount

[winged torrent]

😭😭😭

Wait

[oak tangle]

get a bran dispell timer weak aura, play wat, and get perfect

[winged torrent]

Sorry LOL

[balmy condor]

how are you even doing delves at 212

[winged torrent]

612

Lmao

[balmy condor]

okay so then only 20 more

[umbral sierra]

hmmm i need a few more cp for my next venom in st. i need to do 1 more mut but am i at 81+ energy rn? if im not 81+ energy rip that tea charge that im saving for upcoming kb window

[winged torrent]

😭😭

[balmy condor]

but yeh it's just actual rng

if you don't get a good dispel cycle gg

[drifting cloud]

hope he doesnt crit you with a melee

[winged torrent]

That’s what I’ve been noticing. I can really only get him down to like 85% and then I’m fucked on CDs

[oak tangle]

i played wat, and yeah i had to rotate between vanish and cloak perfectly or it was gg

[abstract flower]

does using sanguine blades, change the energy "household" significantly?

[balmy condor]

wat is fine probably

the energy what

[umbral sierra]

ik, im kidding about dropimg iw

[balmy condor]

bros energy got a white picket fence or something

[oak tangle]

just put a tick on your damn energy weak aura at 85

[winged torrent]

Do we know how long we have until season 2 and we can no longer go for the Let me Solo him achievement for the mount??

[balmy condor]

or don't put a tick on your energy wa

and just stop tracking tea

[balmy condor]

probably february/march

[umbral sierra]

sure but still fuck auto tea. nice qol if u want it but give us the option to turn it off like spriest and their new shadowcrash talent

[winged torrent]

Okay cool, thank ya kindly

https://tenor.com/view/you-thank-appreciate-it-preciate-gif-23646122

[balmy condor]

what difference does it make

[oak tangle]

idk, like i literally have zero problems with it

[balmy condor]

you're macroing it anyway

[umbral sierra]

u macro tea?

[balmy condor]

yes?

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[umbral sierra]

we dont do that ever in pvp

[balmy condor]

what do you think this is for

[umbral sierra]

so im just used to manual

[oak tangle]

isn't pvp entirely maths

what you complaining for

[umbral sierra]

wont u overcap with that if u shiv in aoe though

[runic hinge]

He crit me for 4.8 million today

[balmy condor]

yes

[umbral sierra]

then thats a waste no?

[balmy condor]

no

[drifting cloud]

you probably deserved it

[oak tangle]

tea = mastery

[abstract flower]

mastery = dmg

[oak tangle]

tea != energy

[umbral sierra]

tea would be more dps if saved 3 charges for st boss where u struggle on energy vs having infinite energy in aoe or nah

[oak tangle]

even though it does

[abstract flower]

energy != dmg

[oak tangle]

it doesnt

[balmy condor]

no

that's why we're macroing it

am I not making sense here

[abstract flower]

just chill with spamming in ST

[umbral sierra]

u are but

[balmy condor]

we macro it because we don't care about the energy after 11.0.5

[winged torrent]

Can anyone send me their macro list? I’ve been searching for some good ones

[umbral sierra]

from what ive seen and am used to from my main wow activity of choice

macro tea = bad bc tea is mastery buff but only if u can hold 100 more energy

[balmy condor]

pvp is not a data point here

pvp is an entirely different game

[umbral sierra]

i get that

[runic hinge]

I was pretty close to doing it and then brann went unconscious and I vanished to dispel the dot and he reset so I quit for the night

[oak tangle]

tea has been a mastery buff only for sub for a long time

[umbral sierra]

what made us not care for the energy?

[oak tangle]

ironic that now it's a mastery buff for sin, sub doesnt take it

[balmy condor]

changes to twist the knife/master assassin

[umbral sierra]

high level sub pvp will but not always

still ironic for pve

[oak tangle]

i am not trying to be disrespectful

but liek nobody gives a fuck about pvp

(in here)

[balmy condor]

real

[drifting cloud]

TIL theres pvp in this game

[marsh zinc]

Do I aim to fit my teas into cds now?

[umbral sierra]

u dont take ttk in keys though. how did master assa make us not care about energy?

[balmy condor]

burst bigger

bigger burst mastery better

but I'll let you in on a secret

[oak tangle]

we also dont take vicious venoms

[umbral sierra]

checks out okay

[balmy condor]

slamming tea in aoe

just for mastery

has been better the whole expac

so

[umbral sierra]

interesting

but in keys boss dying faster is more important than aoe dying faster no?

[oak tangle]

no?

[blazing pumice]

no

[umbral sierra]

since bosses cap ur dps and if someone dies in a boss its basically gg

[oak tangle]

dead is boss == bad, sure

[marsh zinc]

In high enough keys you barely play a boss solo?

[oak tangle]

but 3 bosses that are 3 mins, in a 30 min key?

[umbral sierra]

gg on them not being able to dps heal do mechs etc*

[oak tangle]

trash is where you want the damage boss

[balmy condor]

how much time do you think you're saving on a boss having tea

[blazing pumice]

boss damage was only really relevant on tyrannical keys

where the risk of bricking was

from bosses, not trash

[balmy condor]

like if you're taking exactly 4 minutes on a VERY long, VERY hard boss

and you go in with 3 tea charges

vs 0

[drifting cloud]

like atleast 0.3 seconds

[balmy condor]

how fast do you think that boss is gonna go

[umbral sierra]

saving my mental sanity from not watching auto attacks for 60% of the boss fight

[marsh zinc]

1:30

[umbral sierra]

i figured it was more dps by having energy for actual gcds

[balmy condor]

cause you're doing lets say if you're carrying the key

30% of the groups dps

so a 1% increase in your dps, is a 0.3% increase in the groups dps, is a 0.3% increase in speed

having those 3 charges of tea going into a boss

is not 1%

it's in the order of like 0.5 or 0.6%

but even then, lets say it's 1%

that 0.3% increase to party dps right, takes a 240 second boss

down to 239.28 seconds

[umbral sierra]

so its better to just let the boss damage get cucked by energy and get yelled at bc of boss dam low but top meters in aoe

[balmy condor]

you're not making the boss safer

[drifting cloud]

damn my 0.3 seconds was too conservative

[balmy condor]

cutting 8 tenths of a second

off a boss

[balmy condor]

I mean I don't care what people say

I'm telling you the math

[umbral sierra]

i wasnt trying to be an ass with that

[balmy condor]

if you want to play a raid build in m+ and go full boss damage go for it

like you play the game

[umbral sierra]

and i get the math u explained it makes sense

[balmy condor]

I'm just telling you that optimally most of the time spent in a key is aoe, and people will overhyper optimize boss damage

when like

[umbral sierra]

just pugs are high key cucks

[balmy condor]

it doesn't ACTUALLY make keys that much faster

but m+ community is brainrotted

[umbral sierra]

and dont care if ur class is bad at boss dam

[balmy condor]

so here we are

[drifting cloud]

reroll to enh

if you wanna save time

[oak tangle]

i think what you're missing, is that it's not impacting boss damage to a meaningful amount

you keep acting as if you'll get flamed for a 0.3% loss

that is ludicrous

the feint button, is infinitely more valuable than the your tea button

[umbral sierra]

i didnt know it was that low of a diff

thought the extra energy was like a 4-5% increase

[runic hinge]

Probably even lower

It’s like.2% of your own dps to use tea perfectly

[umbral sierra]

just feels weird going from calsses where u HAVE to follow abc to watching auto swing timers like classic

[balmy condor]

yeah so untalenting tea entirely is like BARELY 3%

[umbral sierra]

gd

[balmy condor]

the entire talent

that's kinda the mirage of having these big talent trees

like you have capstones like kingsbane and dragon tempered

that are like +8% each

[oak tangle]

can we swap vigor and leeching poison's place

[balmy condor]

master assassin and twist the knife are 3% talents

[oak tangle]

so i can free up 2 points

[balmy condor]

like you add them up

[umbral sierra]

if its that low wouldnt going for cold blood be stronger? or is cb a troll

[balmy condor]

you can only have 100% damage

CB is worse

[royal lantern]

maybe you, im 104%

[balmy condor]

tea at 3% is only beaten by deeper strat

deeper strat is like a 4.5% talent or something

cold blood is like a 2% talent

[umbral sierra]

what about supercharger

[balmy condor]

supercharger is weaker than tea

[oak tangle]

assuming that's playing around using it with DN only too

wait

nvm

dont respoind

i know

[royal lantern]

:3

[umbral sierra]

dn?

[shy creek]

darkest night

[umbral sierra]

ah

[oak tangle]

dont read it

make CB buff crits

then we can talk

[royal lantern]

or, better Idea

[umbral sierra]

"cold blood now guruntees a crit or if the ability is already guaruntee crit it makes it do 100% more damage"

fixed cb

[royal lantern]

dont make CB exist in the first place

cus wtf is that 2004 shit ability

[oak tangle]

sectec is crying

[umbral sierra]

who?

[shy creek]

Does any other abiity guarentee a crit

at least for timing sectec?

[balmy condor]

okay so you just made cold blood like twice as strong for deathstalker

[umbral sierra]

look u got blizz devs making bm op af and other classes with insane buffs show rogue some love

[oak tangle]

wot

[royal lantern]

yeha, not being bad at the game

just crit man

CB is a fake talent

[shy creek]

mb

[royal lantern]

just bribe rng

[shy creek]

ill play better next time

[runic hinge]

:3

[royal lantern]

thats a bold claim when assa is currently a top spec in the game tbh

• you know

that would push even more focus on envenom dmg

and burst window dmg

and you would have to manualy track DN + CB timers (and maybe even shiv i gues) so you line them up, which is kinda cringe at that point