#assassination

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cedar hare
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Gems u need to sim 100% cos u benefit of using 4 colors

humble verge
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racechanging to minmax

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saj

visual marsh
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now someone told me sexy mog of dis

humble verge
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now if that wasnt just a piece of set

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it wouldve looked cool

cedar hare
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Those daggers are meh

dawn heath
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my demon hunter has all my mogs

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i just started playing the rogue

visual marsh
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nah they sick, i its a set yh but looks dope

humble verge
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guess it fits better on nelf

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than orc pepelaff

visual marsh
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i was undead first

dawn heath
visual marsh
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had some pretty dope ones

dawn heath
visual marsh
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yh like thats very nice even tho its a set

dawn heath
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thunderfury goes hard with this

visual marsh
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yh dem weps are hard

dawn heath
humble verge
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skimpy

dawn heath
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wanna see the straight mog

keen spruce
visual marsh
keen spruce
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IF YOU AINT WEARIN A SKIRT

humble verge
keen spruce
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TF ARE YOU DOIN WITH YOUR LIFE

round fjord
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I wanna see the Pdiddy

quasi stump
humble verge
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dawg got the pdiddy mog

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😭

visual marsh
dawn heath
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straight mog

round fjord
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lmao

dawn heath
bright timber
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Any reason logs and details would show a big diff on Sikran?

quasi stump
visual marsh
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a manly mog indeed

dawn heath
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it was the only time i did the traveler's log in like 2 hours

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i needed that set

round fjord
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diddy one

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show it

dawn heath
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its old af

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its bad

visual marsh
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ever seen a firelord rogue?

cedar hare
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So many slutmogs

dawn heath
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firelord

visual marsh
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ayo i thought u made a pic of me lmao

humble verge
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do you guys use whetstone or mana oil

keen spruce
drifting light
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
woven shore
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Hay is here someone who did great on Mythic ovinax

humble verge
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im progging, not killed it

woven shore
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And could tell me how to use cd

humble verge
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wdym

visual marsh
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my firelord but, it looked better on undead cuz i had diff tabard and mog

humble verge
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just use am as you would

woven shore
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When to use cooldowns so you have kb for example up on next pack

visual marsh
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them wings are crazy

dawn heath
humble verge
dawn heath
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dont have the wings hto

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i think

humble verge
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heres the best try we did today kek

visual marsh
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can get em i ndarkmoon faire

humble verge
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if you wanna see what i did

woven shore
dawn heath
humble verge
keen spruce
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skirt gaming

humble verge
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i do standard opener

dawn heath
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the legion glaives work with everything

woven shore
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When he bites open the pillar and is about to spawn adds

humble verge
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what

visual marsh
humble verge
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nono

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just use them at the start

woven shore
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Mut
Use cooldowns then ct fok env ?

trail locust
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Wait is this the tmog channel

dawn heath
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yes

woven shore
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What

quasi stump
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my mog is pretty badf

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i dont have a lot of good pieces to use

dawn heath
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Glorious tyranny or sinful flame?

keen spruce
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this is ol' reliable

alpine garden
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idk thats some superhero shit

woven shore
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Do all rogues do that

humble verge
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ambush, gar rup, amb/mut x2(depends on how much cp i have) envenom, then deathmark, shiv kingsbane, trinkets/buffs/pot/racials

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yes

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you dont?

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do you SAVE cooldowns?

dawn heath
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slutmog enthusiasts rise up

humble verge
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you never save cooldowns

visual marsh
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ah yh the classic

humble verge
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just use em off cd

woven shore
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I safe cd's for like 5sec before add spawn

quasi stump
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any gay slutmogs consider

humble verge
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now thats jsut waste

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they instadie anyways

dawn heath
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i showed one already

quasi stump
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if you couldnt tell by my pfp I like men Gayge

woven shore
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Hm okay

visual marsh
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no clue who dat is in ur pfp

humble verge
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you know that like

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you wanna do AS much AS possible

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ST damage on ovinax

visual marsh
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but good to know

humble verge
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than padding on the adds

woven shore
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So how are you 2,3m dps

humble verge
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cause i crimon ONCE the ads spawns

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then i fok envenom x23912+934+0921980+4089324589032870954287093248094

woven shore
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So you dont use Kb when adds are up
I mean more aoe dmg

humble verge
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what i do

visual marsh
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also rupture adds so more energy for boss ez

woven shore
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Whisp once said to not rup spiders

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I only rup dying adds

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For energy

jaunty kayak
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is this bait or actually legit good and i should play at least 2 points in supercharger (if not even FI) ? 5min patchwerk .. im quite baffled that 2x lethality is not that good anymore by the looks of things .. also, would be worth on ovinax prog ?

humble verge
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well yes

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can do that tbh

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but then then you would use rup on the big spiders and or worm

visual marsh
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i mean i get more out of ruping add tha being starved

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of energy

humble verge
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but youre still pretty much max energy after the first adds have been killed

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so you dont need to rup em

woven shore
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Yea

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First adds EXPLODE

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šŸ˜‚

humble verge
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yes

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so do 2nd pack

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3rd pack

woven shore
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Our dks Doing porn with em

humble verge
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all of them should die mostly within 5-10s

woven shore
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Hm okay

dawn heath
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do u guys ever jump down in dawnbreaker

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behind boss and step b ack

humble verge
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which boss

worldly sail
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last boss i assume

woven shore
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But not a bad idea uberscott

humble verge
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nah ive never done that actually

visual marsh
humble verge
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i run to the sides then SS

woven shore
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Because i always had the Problem of having to hold if i have to do eggs

humble verge
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not a bad idea

woven shore
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That my second kb isnt up next eggs

humble verge
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should probably do that

nimble vector
woven shore
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Will do today

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Tx

humble verge
visual marsh
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i mean sides is fine anyway

humble verge
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you should have 2nd KB ready for when you run towards next set of eggs

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but i just use it instantly

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prolly shouldnt but meh

nimble vector
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you shouldn't hold KB for those eggs, just send on CD

humble verge
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yeah

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thats what i thought

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i do normal opener

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and use CDs off cooldown

woven shore
nimble vector
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the only thing you can slightly delay is the 2nd deathmark by ~5s or so, so the end of your KB lines up with all the adds spawning, after that send on CD otherwise you won't have CDs back for the bloodlust set in 3rd area

humble verge
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true actually

humble verge
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i just send it tho D:

dawn heath
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i like placing it down there

humble verge
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doenst look that bad

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dont take any damage there either

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cause its basically the tick-death waiting

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as youre out of the light

visual marsh
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change the sound to ''bam''

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kind of more pog

dawn heath
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i really like the sound effect

visual marsh
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as if some buzzing error sound happens

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heard it in keys 1 after the other

humble verge
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is the lasersword DM?

visual marsh
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changed it to a bam soundeffect

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way better

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then u know its time to bam

nimble vector
visual marsh
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so do ppl be running spatter or dot one i reckon on ovinax

woven shore
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@misty kernel gz on CE

jaunty kayak
humble verge
woven shore
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So cooldowns and pot on pull (without lust)
And second kb when adds on first set are almost dead

visual marsh
humble verge
jaunty kayak
woven shore
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@humble verge yea i also open
amb, gar, mut ( if not 5 cp) rup
Mut mut , envenom , mark, shiv , kb tea

humble verge
spice surge
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Is it pad if it increases your boss dps? Hmm

humble verge
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well if it helps

vagrant tapir
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Do we still have the list of flask overrides posted in here somewhere? I'm sure we did but now I can't find them

jaunty kayak
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i do something like amb - gar - rup - fok - mut - env - cds (depening on crits)

nimble vector
fervent cobalt
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do you guys struggle in delves? For some reason, I can do them on any other spec in the game it feels like but Assa rogue i just struggle o.o

cobalt sphinx
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rogue is pretty bad for solo content

wanton hamlet
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hello guys ! quick question. If i dont do mytic raid with my rogue , is it worth to craft double double dagger 636 or to queek the kukri 626+ 636 craft pls ?

cobalt sphinx
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just make 1 dagger max

cobalt sphinx
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offhand dagger is just stats like any piece of gear and gives less stats so it's not a good spot to craft

fervent cobalt
woven shore
wanton hamlet
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so the I keep kukri 626 in off hand and craft 636 main hand if i understand ?

woven shore
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why do i get clear the witness without consuming dn

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is it a bug ?

humble verge
cyan dew
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ty

woven shore
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why do you lust on pull

nimble vector
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this was the first time we did it though

fervent cobalt
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I only really do t8 anyway.

pliant silo
humble verge
woven shore
deep gyro
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
humble verge
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never heard or thought about that tho

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i just do insta gar into rup

woven shore
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i never do rup under 5 cp

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BUT when im blasting rn and my bleeds are on 2 1 sec left

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i do maybe on 2 cp lmao

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so i can spamm more envenoms during kb

left mauve
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
dawn heath
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i'm just never timing this grim batol key

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shits cursed

humble verge
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what lvl

dawn heath
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14-15

humble verge
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ai

dawn heath
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i have no idea what this tank is smoking

humble verge
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i just barely got 2 12s in today lul

dawn heath
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but this is not a pull

worldly sail
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solution

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more iron wire basedCigar

humble verge
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or did you

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cant tell

cobalt sphinx
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shaman choked

dawn heath
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did garrot rupture garrote rupture

cobalt sphinx
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didn't cast bloodlust or tempest

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oh wait he did

dawn heath
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this is just not a pull

limber lion
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healer's fault

cobalt sphinx
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your lust faded when you pulled ahahah

humble verge
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would you even go that big of a pull

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on such a high key

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and not just do 2 pulls there?

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safer bet

cobalt sphinx
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i've done it on 11s and 12s with trolls, haven't done 14

prime plinth
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Just startin to mess withh Assa.... am I bein stupid or somethin? Righth as we pull and I go to ambush, thhe pull takes me out of stealth(they are pulling early admittedly))

humble verge
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usually its drake pack, then double overseer pack

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and then the 6 mob pack

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for me

dawn heath
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u chain it

humble verge
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ive never done that huge of a chain

dawn heath
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u dont pull all at once

humble verge
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yeah

dawn heath
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too many casters

humble verge
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^^

dawn heath
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priest dies to cast

humble verge
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thats what i was thinking about lul

dawn heath
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we dont have enough stops

humble verge
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did you blind in that pull

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didnt check to see

granite acorn
limber lion
humble verge
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oh nvm

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you had used blind earlier

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guh

limber lion
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Potting does not take you out of stealth

prime plinth
humble verge
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has it ever done?

prime plinth
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Palace

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So II can't lead with Ambush its driving me nuts right now

limber lion
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Idk maybe your keybinds are messed up and you accidentally leave stealth

dawn heath
limber lion
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No

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He just said Palace

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Check your normal and stealth bars

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And make sure you don't have some weird stealth macros

humble verge
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ok

limber lion
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Using a trinket will take you out of stealth if you do that

dawn heath
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i put cancelaura stealth on his ambush macro don't tell him shhh

humble verge
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can someone actually tell me why mists de-stealthes

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it annoys the fuck outta me

limber lion
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Blizzard things

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They updated the older dungeons

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:-)

dawn heath
limber lion
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Worked fine in Shadowlands

desert gate
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whats the rule of thumb with como point spending as assassin? max spend when deathmark is up or settle on 5cp?

dawn heath
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just assume its gonna happend every time

humble verge
limber lion
jaunty kayak
humble verge
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but the thing is

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last week's affix

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is basically also a DoT

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so that one makes sense

jaunty kayak
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true

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but CC orbs are annoying

gritty sequoia
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!craft

prisma monolithBOT
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Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

cobalt sphinx
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doesn't bloodbound pull you out of stealth really quick on the pull

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i heard that was the case but i don't think i've experienced it

humble verge
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you just gotta be the one to pull him >:)

nimble vector
humble verge
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i have died that way

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always fun

spice spire
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SHPAI

humble verge
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you can stand at the end of the platforms thtere

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and still dps

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if i had goddamn raidbots vip

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i couldve just simmed all the combos i want

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: (

true lintel
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Is the maximum buff from the culminating blasphemite .60%?

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1 from each gem onyx,emerald,ruby, sapphire

spice surge
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Technically you can use an amber to make it 0.75, but its not worth it

potent lance
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a question i do like 2300/2400/2200 overal in keys like NW/SV (without Aug or any improve buffs(pi...etc)) but dont undrestand my sims say i should do liek 1900 overall in keys

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is sims doing wrong or im doing too good? or what xD

balmy condor
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dungeonslice is a synthetic

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not a real key

spice spire
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That’s a uh lack of understanding on what dungeon slice is.
It’s just a generic combo of aoe/cleave/st,
it’s not a measure of what dps should be it’s a measure to compare guilds for what suits you best

balmy condor
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the number is irrelevant

spice spire
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Damn

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Sorry dad

merry bison
potent lance
potent lance
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xD

gusty mirage
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Guys don’t tell whispyr I told you, but he smells

jaunty kayak
feral pewter
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Does the order of the 1st three skills there matter? Deathmark, Shiv, Kingsbane?

merry bison
humble verge
glad osprey
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Is there an accurate source that tells you which builds are suggested for each fight?

gusty mirage
loud nest
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
glad osprey
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wondering what kind of build to use for queen for example

humble verge
glad osprey
potent lance
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i have an advice for everyone here just delete ELVUI its totaly bullshit ā¤ļø you will thank me later

feral pewter
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Thank you guys.

cobalt sphinx
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there's a little bit of flexibility because two shivs lasts longer than 1 kingsbane, but that's a generally safe sequence to use them

glad osprey
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It would be nice if there was a website like warcraft logs that tells you which builds are most popular for each fight but tbh i cant

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find anything on that

potent lance
cobalt sphinx
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warcraftlogs has the info on that yeah

glad osprey
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it's kinda hard to navigate

feral pewter
humble verge
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thats what i do

spice surge
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Press a fight, select assa rogues

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Then at the top its right there

cobalt sphinx
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pick the spec

humble verge
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^^

cobalt sphinx
humble verge
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honeslty

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might just delete elvui

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to get more fps lol

nimble vector
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there's a lot of random shit in elvui that's turned on by default that cripples fps, like heal prediction on raid frames and stuff

glad osprey
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ty

humble verge
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ovinax is worst for me

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lol

nimble vector
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if you have plater I would recommend getting plater performance unit plugin for ovinax

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also turning off damage numbers helps

humble verge
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i dont think ive ever had damage numbers on

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how do you even turn those on lol

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looks so stupid tbh

dawn heath
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my rogue lag is back and i'm so sad

cobalt sphinx
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you gotta be able to see the pump brah

dawn heath
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im not sure what happend it came back

humble verge
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pump i can already see on details

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dont need more numbers in my face

dawn heath
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spell queueing is so fucked on rogue i don't experience it on any other class

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it keeps fok'ing twice when i press a different global

humble verge
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then you must be lagging

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i only have that problem when i lag

nimble vector
glad osprey
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yeah its server lag its kinda unavoidable tho

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especially in bigger raid groups or the world

dawn heath
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happends in keys

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i nraid

humble verge
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i was having major lag on rashanan ads

dawn heath
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especially during lust

humble verge
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i was trying to mut 2 times

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i did 4 lol

dawn heath
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my game is unplayable whe im hasted

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keeps doing the wrong gcd

jaunty kayak
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are we already at the point where radiant power is now better on ST than depths ?

dawn heath
nimble vector
# dawn heath wdym by this?

you can run a thing that basically shows you how much memory each WA / addon is eating while in combat, you can run it while you hit something and it should show if there are any outliers causing these issues

dawn heath
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oh i see, and how do i check for that?

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is it a addon?

jaunty kayak
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there is Addon called - Addon CPU usage

dawn heath
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its always lagging in dornogal also

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on dummies

nimble vector
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go into MRT at the bottom there is CPU profiling

weary spear
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What you guys doing to min max last boss of NW? For gauntlet I’ve been rup/shiv/teaing then env spam till dead?

novel star
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mandate it CB_kek

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but nah pretty much just that ye

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i wouldn’t shiv it personally but i play pisser vault keys

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so prob needed when higher

jaunty kayak
coral ibex
jaunty kayak
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i always save darkest night for every dark exile cast, to have it ready if i happen to go down

dawn heath
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ill show u a super laggy opener

spice surge
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
dawn heath
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this is the kind of lag im experiencing

dawn heath
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game is turbo unresponsive

spice spire
quasi stump
dawn heath
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šŸ’€

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it amplifies alot with haste

quasi stump
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maybe you're going so fast with so much haste the game cant keep up

dawn heath
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yeah

jaunty kayak
# subtle cipher Thats....annoying

not rly for me .. it kinda always matches the timing of dark exile cast to rotate the proc, i dont hold it the whole time :D i do rotation normally, i just stop when the cast is about to go

silent stratus
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should I go w/ the highest sim build for m+ or there is anything else to consider? (i.e. specific dungeons, hard to replicate sim, etc)

dawn heath
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its been like this for 4 days now

quasi stump
dawn heath
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im playing keys

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with this lag

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it doesnt go away

subtle cipher
dawn heath
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i will say i have 18 ms and like 200+ fps

jaunty kayak
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i get it might have sounded that i basically afk till the cast xd

dawn heath
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so i'm not sure wtf the problem is

subtle cipher
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I pictured you spamming mut with 7cp

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Lmao

jaunty kayak
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:D:D

subtle cipher
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Did that sometimes during queen prog

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Ngl

jaunty kayak
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or rupturing/tempesting xd

subtle cipher
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Tempest st

jaunty kayak
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hidden tech

dawn heath
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tempest st is not even that bad

subtle cipher
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He is the one

balmy condor
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tempest st is not even that bad, but it is still just worse than just pressing envenom

worldly sail
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good news everyone

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on first night of ansurek prog i only had one parried kingsbane

novel star
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i got a kb parried on kyveza earlier

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i think

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well ā€œearlierā€ yesterday

slate crown
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<solemnly replacing the card on the days without kingsbane parry sign>

worldly sail
thorn fjord
slate crown
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I didn't do custom sound option for it sorry

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Custom sound is an option for each of the ticks

thorn fjord
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I had a laugh but lost it

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Going to just change this to a laugh

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ohhh no im going to use the one of the guy yelling at you saying that you suck lmao

spice spire
slate crown
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u can see in the picture

spice spire
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Don’t banana me

slate crown
spice spire
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Not the zine again

slate crown
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šŸŒ

balmy condor
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does lisonna even know the banana lore

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might be before her time

thorn fjord
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The banana for scale lore

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?

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banana peel*

balmy condor
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no

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koffing did a !banana as a joke

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or zine I think

thorn fjord
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Oh i didnt know that lore either

balmy condor
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one of the two

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and they banned the other

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cause !banana is !ban

thorn fjord
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lolol

balmy condor
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so now there's code in moroes to prevent bananas

thorn fjord
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But where is he going to get his needed potasium intake

spice spire
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Zine banned koffing

thorn fjord
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LMAO

balmy condor
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yeah

blazing jewel
spice spire
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Goat moment in rh lore tbh

slate crown
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Oh no the conversation continued while I was tabbed

spice spire
slate crown
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I am lost and not reciprocating

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No I do not know the šŸŒ lore

spice spire
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LE actually auction house gaming rn

slate crown
spice spire
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Can’t wait to see the sauce

thorn fjord
slate crown
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yes

thorn fjord
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TiL

slate crown
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but ideally this sauce is more something you shouldn't really be able to see or taste at all

thorn fjord
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Like molly water

arctic socket
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Alright boys update

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I got that water car

thorn fjord
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what happened

arctic socket
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A very bad flood

thorn fjord
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jesus

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Your car is going to WREAK

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is this east coast?

arctic socket
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My car has floated about 40 yards

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Yeah it is

thorn fjord
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Damn rip

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Insurance gonna cover it?

arctic socket
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I hope so

thorn fjord
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That water looks so gross

balmy condor
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so a boat

arctic socket
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With wheels

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Yes

runic hinge
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Bet she runs mint

thorn fjord
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Amphibious vehicle

arctic socket
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Got that apc

thorn fjord
#

that sucks tho

arctic socket
#

Yeah it’s horrible, but might as well joke to cope

thorn fjord
#

Nothing else to do

#

Dont go swimming in that water tho

#

Ring worm central

arctic socket
#

Lmao

arctic socket
#

I got a actual lake backyard

#

No power aswell once again

slate crown
#

Was going to joke but that's actually terrible and horrifying, I'm so sorry

runic hinge
#

Waterfront property!!!

slate crown
#

Remember flood water is very gross, minimize your time in it

spice spire
#

Jfc dude

#

Twice in a few months is a wild one

slate crown
#

Like, contracting diseases gross

spice spire
#

At least it’s an easy swim eh

slate crown
#

it's saturated with sewage

nova kelp
#

last time I ever experienced anything like this I messaged my girlfriend "brb gona catch the drift down to the corner store"

she got SO mad

spice spire
#

Amoeba good though

arctic socket
#

That water is over 7ft deep in some areas

spice spire
#

šŸ™‚

arctic socket
#

So I’m not going anywhere near it

spice spire
slate crown
spice spire
#

But on a real note

arctic socket
spice spire
#

That’s fucked

#

I’m so sorry to

arctic socket
#

Anyone got a boat I could borrow?

runic hinge
#

I’m in a drought and you’re hoarding all the water

spice spire
arctic socket
#

There’s also a TV?

#

I think

slate crown
#

yeah

#

looks like the back of one

arctic socket
#

Where the hell does a tv float from huhh

spice spire
#

House

arctic socket
#

Perhaps

potent lance
#

Suggest some good assassin streams which they are live rn pls

keen spruce
#

i'm not sittin through all of these adds to check

arctic socket
#

I thought zacc was a outlaw one trick

keen spruce
#

he's doin pirate keys nvm

arctic socket
#

Lasted long

keen spruce
#

tbf that screenshot is from dragonflight iirc

cobalt sphinx
#

the goat

spice spire
vocal cradle
#

so i was thinking of making something for brood prog to make kicking easier is it possible to make a macro that will step my focus target kick and press it again to step to last target or boss or whatever?

thick sail
#
  1. Is this acceptable damage for a +4 Siege of Boralus?

  2. has anyone crafted a Binding of Binding ring embellishment? My fiance and I crafted it and tried to bind with each other but it doesn't seem to be working. Does this mean we should break up IRL?

upper oak
#

whats your ilvl?

thick sail
#

617

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(IIRC)

upper oak
#

this is mine from my last dungeon, 8 NW at 619 ilvl. seems like the % are off, did you log it?

#

oh wait hold on

#

that was from raid :X

thick sail
#

I don't know how to log D:

upper oak
#

mine look about the same

thick sail
crimson zephyr
#

god I really start to think that trinket doesn't exist

upper oak
#

im fairly new to it but feel like i finally got it down

#

maybe about 2 weeks flushing it out so far

pliant remnant
#

Not seen it drop once btw

upper oak
#

i did 1.49M at 619. biggest change i had to make was using fok more. made a big difference

crimson zephyr
ripe bobcat
thick sail
upper oak
#

oh, i havent tried that. but if your having fun keep blasting

sullen steppe
#

Anyone have a WA that shows how many ruptures you have active? Pref as a number

thick sail
upper oak
#

like a scent of blood wa?

worldly sail
#

real gamers stack icons next to each other and count the amount basedCigar

thick sail
upper oak
#

you can probably make a basic one through a WA

thick sail
# hot blade you can't be serious?!

It really is what I do, but Jesus damn if it isn't impossible to target specific mobs sometimes. Like, we pull 8 mobs, one is casting a fear, I click frantically multiple times trying to target the fear to interrupt it, then give up, and start tab targeting in a panic

#

See also: fighting a BM hunter and a Demonology warlock at the same time in pvp

hot blade
#

thatsthejoke.jpg

thick sail
#

Like, I'm sorry Blizzard but your UI does not support high numbers of mobs in your game, so please stop designing pulls and PvP classes around large numbers of mobs

slate crown
#

Or if you want the actual raw number

#

debuff : multi target, then use %matchCount

sullen steppe
high walrus
#

are we ever supposed to use fan of knives on st? I was under the impression that we should use it if muti would overcap CP

spice spire
tranquil birch
#

Quick question. In the FB single target opener, why is cold blood cast between shiv and KB rather than right before envenom? Does it matter?

hollow oracle
#

(I'd also like to know why shiv is used after deathmark and not before, with second shiv allowing complete uptime for kingsbane.)

high walrus
spice spire
#

May as well spend it on something that does damage

cyan dew
#

Does mercurial egg sims are using optimal usage or just 30 agi stack?

high walrus
#

except one costs 35 energy and the other costs 50

spice spire
#

Huh

#

They absolutely do not

#

Mutilate has like 50 modifiers from talents

high walrus
#

none of which are reflected in the tooltip or what

spice spire
#

Plus more poison application (st) plus higher co gain (at)

#

Yeah

#

Tooltips are a meme

high walrus
#

alright nvm then

#

was just basing it off tooltip because I didn't wanna go hit a dummy

#

thought it was basically just for blindside that we'd use muti otherwise in the scenario I described

balmy condor
#

tooltip in wow

#

rookie mistake

real onyx
#

so do we not craft a weapon for rogue?

#

Just two other pieces

coral ibex
#

!craft

prisma monolithBOT
#

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

real onyx
#

just got 800k from selling spy on my main so i can affort it

#

ty

high walrus
#

anyone know how to cleanly add clear the witness to devlins weakaura

#

seems weird that it wouldn't track it by default but I don't wanna change what wa I'm using at this point

west crown
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
#

copy one of the buffs it does track

#

and just change the id

#

457178

high walrus
#

was scared of somehow fucking something up by doing that but I'll try

cobalt sphinx
coral ibex
#

anyone know of an addon that integrates with like obs or something to start/stop recording on pull/wipe?

high walrus
balmy condor
#

yes

high walrus
#

it already exists in the weakaura but it's set to never load apparently

#

idk if that's something I somehow did or if that's just how it is

#

I'm so confused

balmy condor
#

you should be casting it in single target when not talented into vicious venoms

#

which we never do after the changes in 11.0.5

high walrus
#

yeah I've never had that talent selected

#

just caved in to pugging mythic yesterday and wanted to clear myself of fuckups

#

because my vault is withholding useful gear

tranquil birch
cobalt sphinx
#

yeah i'm guessing that macroing cb to kb ensures the proper usage of inevitable and edge case and removes all the thought required with that mechanic

tranquil birch
#

Oh, shit I didn't realize they were both 1min. Sick

#

Small brain. Me like few button

balmy condor
#

but the cd starts when you consume the last stack

#

so it's closer to like 50-52

#

but you also want to not cast cold blood if deathmark is gonna come up soon

#

so you end up with this weird situation where it doesn't REALLY line up

#

but it kinda has to or else you fuck over your edge flips

#

so macroing it and just pretending it's a 1 min cd is just much easier and it lines up with shivs naturally that way so you're critting envenoms during shiv

#

which isn't like the biggest thing but ends up being fine

marsh ginkgo
#

is FB viable in any capacity in m+

tranquil birch
#

Ok. So you agree with Mike that macro with kb works

cobalt sphinx
#

whispyr is the guy that does the science

tranquil birch
#

I know. Sweet, thanks yall. Gonna try it out since it's simming a decent amount higher for me now in ST

spice surge
#

Like the no imp garrote build from before kek

high walrus
#

treating it like another muti

balmy condor
#

just replaces a mut

scenic kiln
#

are we supposed to hold our cds on ovinax till first adds

#

mythic

balmy condor
#

no

scenic kiln
#

ok i figured as much

#

my rl was like hold on to them but i was like that cant be right

#

for us at least

worldly sail
#

i think my RL would have shot me if i held cds for adds OMEGALUL2

balmy condor
#

if you hold it legit never lines up for any egg break later

scenic kiln
#

word

arctic tusk
#

anything we shudl be cloaking in silken court?

#

i know cloaking venomous rain makes it so theres not an orb

#

thats all i know doe

spring lantern
#

by reading the combat log

spiral rain
#

is the Illidan quest thing the only quest that gives heroic tier item? or are there other ones?

woeful meteor
spring lantern
brave vector
#

@balmy condor dunno if this is something you setup with your WA or if its built in from afenar's original, but would you know why when i try to move the utility stuff to the same line of icons as deathmark, kingsbane, etc. it dynamically scales them all down? I'm trying to scale them up and it wont allow it

#

nvm i'm dumb and just realized its custom stuff in the group settings

raven halo
#

in ST, do i wanna keep up fok for momentum of despair?

spice spire
#

No

balmy condor
#

huh

soft surge
#

do i bother with looking into fatebound gameplay

normal mist
#

If you want to

soft surge
#

do i need to learn a new rotation ro something

#

apart from using cold clood

slim pebble
#

Pretty much the same

normal mist
#

Just to macro CB to KB

slim pebble
#

You just get to open in the more better way

soft surge
#

does it require diff stats

normal mist
#

No

soft surge
#

i should just look at wowhead

normal mist
#

Sure

soft surge
#

@balmy condor you have nice dark/black gfx settings

#

for purple shit

ebon notch
#

when do i CB as fatebound

#

sorry if thats a dumb question

brave vector
ebon notch
#

oh fr

#

cool ty

spice spire
ebon notch
#

sick

hidden depot
#

hey new to assassination... can i use fist weapons or it has to be daggers ?

spice spire
#

Daggers

hidden depot
#

damn ok guess no upgrade for me lol

real onyx
#

does enven count as a posion

#

sry asked something fimilar before

hallow pelican
#

i seem to be hitting 9.4 million envenom crits fairly consistently now. just dungeon running with minor buffs. Is that a recent bug fix or a rotation thing Im doing ... ?

safe barn
#

is there any limit in the CT

#

or, one cast is enough to spread them all in ovinax

cunning rapids
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
balmy condor
balmy condor
#

CT hits everything around you

pliant terrace
#

nice got princess down and a transmitter on our first kill

lyric stirrup
arctic socket
#

What would you do if ct got a target cap? @balmy condor

hallow pelican
real onyx
#

VERY HELPFUL

safe barn
balmy condor
safe barn
#

i read that, just wanted to make sure if was something hidden, idk

balmy condor
#

fair enough I guess

drifting cloud
#

didnt it used to be target capped

stray adder
#

3rd boss in GB has the worst affix overlaps, i hate this boss

drifting cloud
#

was t hat 1 or 2 expansions ago

runic hinge
coral ibex
#

44% pb on kyveza pepeheist

#

making good prog tn

balmy condor
#

how is your poison bomb doing that much damage

arctic socket
#

He’s pressing envenom

small compass
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
hallow pelican
#

in ST in subterfuge worth it over Supercharger and Lethality?

balmy condor
#

hell no

austere basin
#

Wait, rogue can solo tank the last mini boss before the first boss of arakara?

finite eagle
#

In raid, are we still sending evenom anytime we have 5 or more cmb points?

#

unless we have darkest night?

balmy condor
#

yes

errant mauve
#

anyone know where skardyns drops from because it doesnt exist in Grim Batol... ive checked alot

thick sail
#

I'd like to reiterate, Subterfuge and the synergies it provides with other talents makes it officially the most fun talent in our trees

coral ibex
brave vector
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
errant mauve
#

during M+ runs are we using DM and KB on CD even if the CDs arent lining up to use at same time until just before bosses to bring them both back up for boss?

blazing pumice
#

you really just want to make sure you are sending a kb at the 1min cd mark for dm

#

it doesn't really come up that often that they are desynced

blazing pumice
#

if i can't get one off at the 1 min mark, i'm usually sending it up until about 40s left on dm (feelycraft), otherwise I hold

vast loom
#

with the cdr affix

errant mauve
#

im consistently only getting 16 KB off, granted this is just in GB runs because skardyns wont drop

green pulsar
#

Please for the love of god tell me where im going wrong, 629ilvl, open with Ambush, Garrote, Rupture, into a ambush with subterfuge. then into DM to KB Envenom, repeat Mutilate into envenom till KB tracker says press shiv, Vanish into Ambush, Garrote, Rupture to maintain. Then just proceed as normal, why am i doing like 800k dps on bosses... I dont run Lightweight shiv, so only 1 charge, am i pressing it too late? Should it be at start of KB or before? Please help 😦

errant mauve
#

but im losing a good chunk of casts of it and im not sure if im holding things too long or not. I know ill lose some time because moving between packs at times but that should be only a couple minutes tops right

errant mauve
#

depending on the boss too

blazing pumice
#

sin st in m+ build sux

green pulsar
#

Take Edna for example, i want it down to 700k

errant mauve
arctic socket
green pulsar
#

Am i pressing Shiv too late? Should it be before, right at the start or during the last 8 seconds?

arctic socket
#

6 now

errant mauve
#

and i cant get 1 what is this bullshit

pliant remnant
#

No wonder Skardyn's doesn't exist

runic hinge
#

She’s hoarding them all

pliant remnant
#

Yeah

ebon notch
#

@balmy condor is there an m+ build that uses AP at all?

#

I’m thinking for mists with some of the lower target count pulls it could be a gain

balmy condor
#

that's considered a cleave build yes you can find an example on wowhead

#

it's playable

arctic socket
#

@balmy condor how many subs, for you to wear cat ears?

green pulsar
arctic socket
#

With two charges before pressing it then the last 8 seconds

real onyx
#

Hey, regarding garrote, does it silence even without iron wire? The tooltip says it silences for 5 seconds

#

is iron will just the dmg reduction?

arctic socket
#

While playing one charge of shiv you also press it again when it comes up

balmy condor
arctic socket
balmy condor
#

guess you're poor

arctic socket
#

With my situation atm yes very

ebon notch
#

Is it a significant single target gain?

balmy condor
#

it's behind in both

real onyx
ebon notch
#

The cleave build is behind in ST compared to standard m+?

real onyx
#

assa rogue has so many weird tooltips that miss out important shit

ebon notch
#

Nvm then

real onyx
#

wl ones alter themselves so well

ebon notch
#

Ty

real onyx
#

ty ty

serene mason
#

!shiv

#

!macro

#

!tea

prisma monolithBOT
#

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
weary spear
#

is forced induction better ST than lethality in m+ ?

hot jay
#

Can I shadowstep queen in intermission? about to do alt raid and never played my rogue there

#

if not I guess I can shadowstep a friendly

runic hinge
#

You can shadow step the pull yeah

hot jay
#

on her as target? nice

#

was worried it might put me in the circle somehow

oak tangle
#

i hope you have fingers of lightning

runic hinge
#

Yeah I just run out a bit so I don’t fuck up the timing

oak tangle
#

add any small amount of ping = dead

hot jay
#

yeah I'm not planning on hugging her for the step lol

#

it just means I barely have to run out

runic hinge
#

Also don’t forget step gives you a small speed boost so you don’t wanna run into her again

#

Cause I did that one pull last week

#

Time the step well and then just run straight into her

coarse hedge
#

Is there different builds for low keys? Or shall i run the same

torpid lion
#

does the double stack of envenom use epidemic

#

i thought i saw the guide said it dosnt

#

or somethign

oak tangle
#

the shortest duration uses pandemic

#

they are independant buffs that overlap sometimes, it works differently to tradtional stack buffs

torpid lion
#

ok i thoguht in the whispyr video he said since they are stacking buffs it dosnt p[andemic

#

so do we hold then or is there an !pandemic

#

that will explain

oak tangle
#

im not sure what you mean

torpid lion
#

like do we hold a 5+ envenom for the pandemic window

oak tangle
#

no?

torpid lion
#

or since we have so much nrg now we just send

#

i think im getting baited by old log review software

oak tangle
#

are we talking in cooldowns?

grizzled ember
#

For brood do others hide the parasite health bars? Would that be under Minions or Minors?

#

for plater

oak tangle
#

outside cooldowns yes you can hold a 5+ for the pandemic window

#

but hold is 1-2 seconds in this case mostly

brave vector
#

has anyone else had a problem with attacking the dornogal dummies where the game literally just stops for 5 seconds every couple of globals?

slate crown
#

the pandemic works as memz explained

#

are you memz or zmem

#

or zwew

torpid lion
#

alright thanks

#

i feel the rogue buffs from he .05 patch was extremely lazy

#

like the bugs off the rip

#

and theres long not even a buff associated with the new echoing rep

#

like i understand its not needed but not having some sorta buff is just lazy

oak tangle
#

geometrically accurate

slate crown
#

it's available via another API, weakauras is updated to have a referencable value for it

oak tangle
#

my name stems from a nickname i had at uni cause i used to make memes

slate crown
#

I think the big issue is the same as with other classes: bugs

#

which is bad

torpid lion
#

i dont think theres a way i could say the patch was good

slate crown
#

sorry ears getting blasted out by someone's stream

#

There is: play sub

torpid lion
#

im not a cringe kid enough to play sub

slate crown
oak tangle
#

idk, you dont have to press tea / echoing / snd any more, feint is not on he gcd

torpid lion
#

and im not lucky enough to play outlaw

#

stuck with ass

oak tangle
#

if those are impactful enough you playing the wrong game

torpid lion
#

i didnt mind pressing slice and dice once in a fight

oak tangle
#

🤮

torpid lion
#

the feint change is prob the best part

#

and i kinda liked the mini game from echoing now that its gone

oak tangle
#

idk a whole ass keybind for an ability you press once

coarse aurora
#

I'm new to assa. Did they get major changes in the PTR or something?

torpid lion
#

didnt realize what i had till it was gone

#

ass dosnt have many keybinds

#

like i got 2 empty slots now just sitting on my bars

silk bane
#

okay someone creative make this into something thanks

torpid lion
#

and everything already bound

oak tangle
#

kushpyr

slate crown
torpid lion
#

even hearthstone. distract 2 trinkets

silk bane
#

cuz like

#

same

oak tangle
torpid lion
#

ye

oak tangle
#

do you have like 6 fingers?

torpid lion
#

i got everything bound

slate crown
#

do you have smite's compass bound

torpid lion
#

and my binds are really efficient

#

i have

#

open alch journal and herba

#

bound

#

warlock gate stone thing and healthstone

oak tangle
#

oh you're a [mod:] bind kinda guy?

torpid lion
#

i have a few ctrl

#

nah i dont have macro stuff

#

really

oak tangle
#

i despise mod binds, one button per bind

#

i have 17 dps keybinds

torpid lion
#

bind check

#

my binds are so fresh tbh

#

and im only in default ui beacuse elvui turns my game to a slide show on mythic brood

oak tangle
#

see you got a swathe of abilities on shift binds

torpid lion
#

shift 2 was slice and dice

#

shift 3 was rep

oak tangle
#

i mean yeah, but i guess what im saying is for you it's easier cause you use shift binds to find the keys, I only bind one spell to a key, so keybinds are a premium for someone like me

slate crown
#

Envenom bar updated for stability rework number 2

#

no more envenom

#

please no more

oak tangle
#

were you able to wrap your head around the problem?

slate crown
#

More like

#

I was able to think of a way around the problem

oak tangle
#

i've never seen it happen just using your data exported

fresh kelp
#

can't wait for 12.0 when twist the knife becomes a 2 pointer and you can stack envenom 3 times

oak tangle
#

cooked suggestion

fresh kelp
oak tangle
#

choice node with kingsbane

slate crown
#

I'd die

#

That said most of what I did should generically support any number of buffs with only a handful of updates

oak tangle
#

"while active for 14 s, envenom buff can stack indefinitely"

#

just progressivley bigger envenoms

#

maybe add a multiplier, "envenom casts while buff is active instead count for 2"

#

tuning pending*

slate crown
limber coral
#

Can someone explain to me like I am 5 how the radius for CS works, cause like I do not get any of these high as parsers on just about every weird fight.

runic hinge
#

It’s from the center of your target

little saffron
runic hinge
#

Do delves for a while

oak tangle
#

either that, or a completely cooked talent tree about bleeds. "envenom is now some blood themed name, and no longer consumes combo points, but instead consumes duration on rupture and garrote to deal damage"

runic hinge
balmy condor
runic hinge
#

He went back in time

#

And stole it

coarse aurora
oak tangle
#

it's a more active old exsanguinate