assassination

[warm vortex]

For referance
This is what the other 50% of the uk male population looks like

[novel star]

i know

[warm vortex]

:(

[coral ibex]

the consequences of twink death on uk males is devastating

[novel star]

twink or dr robotnik

two classes

[spice spire]

That’s a wild sentence

[worldly sail]

i hate how i understand the sentence

[spice spire]

You’ve experience twink death eh

[worldly sail]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-bird-meme-wuewuewue-bird-gif-22093146

[spice spire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1303506492082753558/SLORPGLORPIN.gif

[limber lion]

Ya'll need help

[warm vortex]

Why the fuck is he in a car

[novel star]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-cut-him-down-tear-him-apart-splay-the-gore-gif-16211356125689318290

[worldly sail]

he's trying to drive away from the rogue discord

[coral ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-british-food-mods-low-tier-god-gif-9108075214677777615

[warm vortex]

Maybe he is the secret third assasin rogue player

[warm vortex]

Ok

british food looks like shit but taste amazing

[novel star]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-low-tier-god-mods-mods-crush-his-skull-christmas-gif-5984336655651551816

[coral ibex]

tesco meal deals dont count

[warm vortex]

Fuck

[spice spire]

British food doesn’t have taste Blud

Checkmate

[warm vortex]

It does when you steal other cultures food and use it so much it's now considered your food

[lucid orchid]

Is there a command for macros?

Or has anyone got a good cd one to use

[warm vortex]

What sort of one do you want

like a

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[warm vortex]

one

[lucid orchid]

Erm

More like

[wanton imp]

What is that blue combo point I get from Shiv, is it a talent? Do I play around it?

[warm vortex]

Supercharger

and you don't really have to play around it

it just makes your next finishing move stronger p much

[lucid orchid]

Pot, Tea, kingsbane, deathmark

Sort of

I tried making one

[versed zinc]

Does it make a 7 combo point finisher counts 8?

[warm vortex]

You don't use them all at once

you go
DM --> shiv + tea --> KB

If you have 2 shiv chargers

[lucid orchid]

Oh

[warm vortex]

if you dont' use shiv halfway through kingsbane

[lucid orchid]

U DM first

Im not using double shiv

yeah shiv last 8 sec

Wouldnt u wanna tea before deathmark?

[warm vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-cat-hyper-gif-9540792418684483949

[warm vortex]

No?

[lucid orchid]

Does the mastery not effect it then?

Im a noob

Just curious

[wanton imp]

If I want to get the benefit of it, do I press my finisher at 1 blue combo point?

[warm vortex]

iirc we mainly do it for the energy i think, not the mastery
but i could be wrong
also if we went tea with deathmark
we would not get as much tea with kingsbane

[warm vortex]

No

[slate crown]

quake

[warm vortex]

thats how the old one worked

It just ads a cp (or 2 i forgot how many)

to your next move

[lucid orchid]

I always tea with kingsbane but then dm after that

I thought i watched someone on yt somewhere saying to do that but i'll test it

[warm vortex]

On the wowhead guide it says DM, Shiv KB

Btw

if you get skyardins grace
bind it to dm and not KB

[spice spire]

Hi

[lucid orchid]

Roger

ty

[warm vortex]

Also haven't said hi yet mister feet

[slate crown]

I mean I've seen people on yt say to eat tide pods and their name was not whispyr so

[warm vortex]

hope your doing well

[warm vortex]

If whispyr told me to do it i would prolly not do it

[slate crown]

gm

[warm vortex]

Whisypr if he told people to eat tidepods

[spice spire]

It’s actually insane how much of an imperial linsanity run GN had back in the day but legit brought 0 spices to their food

[spice spire]

GM queen. I hope you have an amazing day

[warm vortex]

God i gotta leave for uni soon

no more hom :(

[winged gust]

yo what do yall think of playing subterfuge?

[noble flume]

Guys i should go both autority of depths on daggers or 1 radiant 1 depths?

[slate crown]

You know I need to carry your energy forward because it's hard right now. Hope you're ok today

[warm vortex]

@coral ibex

Imo pretty fucking good

Also I tried to improve my logs last night

Ignore ulgrax
Raid started while I was afk
So I had to die and get teleported into the arena lol

[winged gust]

how would i like greatly utilize it? im using it rn and idk what to do differently

[normal mist]

Oi oi oi

[warm vortex]

The main draw is the extra 6 seconds of master assassin, IW and IC

The way I use it is to refresh silences personally

So near the end of the Sub window o garrotte again

[winged gust]

uhh whats IW and IC again sorry

[warm vortex]

Iron wire and indiscriminate carnage

[wet wharf]

If you dont have vanish or coming out of stealth to spread rupture. Should you «manually» spread it on more than 2 targets? M+

[warm vortex]

Always always make sure you have ruptures up for scent

[wet wharf]

So if you have 5 targets, you stop envenoming and spread rupture instead?

[warm vortex]

If you run into this situation a lot I’d suggest taking double vanish

[wet wharf]

Assuming they will stay alive

[warm vortex]

Tbh, idk at that point
Started running double vanish and I haven’t encountered that in a while

[spice spire]

It’s hard atm but you have to do what you can to bring yourself joy.
If you ever need an ear I’m always there LE. Now I know you’ll have a better week (can’t get worse eh)

[coral ibex]

i need to improve my bloodbound, sikran, and brood heroic logs

[slate crown]

Thx quake, I know you're here

[ripe umbra]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[quiet oar]

Wholesome quake

[crisp stream]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[warm vortex]

I just need to stop sucking ass on first boss

[coral ibex]

just dont soak

[crisp stream]

has anyone tried the m+ build in this sheet ?

[solemn oracle]

For they high key pushers, is the 9-12s MA buff more valuable than Iron wire?

[tired gull]

Story of my life

[solemn oracle]

I see tons of top assa's running it in keys, is it more of a "you don't need the silence as much in a static group" kinda thing?

[coral ibex]

yes

[royal lantern]

ikr????

implying that younare bri*ish

@normal mist

the reply didnt work

but you know what i mean

[normal mist]

I'm no bri'ish man

I'm a CR7 man

[coral ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/sui-siu-ronaldo-football-portugal-gif-25997537

[normal mist]

Ahahahah

[hollow gazelle]

any reason to ever take fatebound?

[warm vortex]

True

[slate crown]

For some it begins to sim better in pure single target than deathstalker

[warm vortex]

It sims higher in raid

For some people

[slate crown]

up to 2% or so

[warm vortex]

Eyy jynx

[zealous wolf]

did anyone try the "new" build casual is running?

[slate crown]

any time more than 1 target DS takes over

[spice spire]

Now she owes you a weak aura

[warm vortex]

:D

[hollow gazelle]

i normally run that lol

[slate crown]

Or, hear me out, you want to play fatebound because you want to turn off your brain hed empty

life is hard sometimes

take a breather

play the coin

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[normal mist]

Why should we play builds that the top 1% is using

[stark scroll]

idk its not reeally new

[spice spire]

Gambling? Miss me w that

[zealous wolf]

im just asking

[stark scroll]

exactly

[zealous wolf]

chill

...

[hollow gazelle]

the 30% nature dps increase is to strong

[stark scroll]

lets fucking use the builds the bottom 50% are using

[coral ibex]

that group has very organized kicks so he just takes more damage talents

you should probably take iron wire

[zealous wolf]

id rop iron wire for some dungeons, like mists

[slate crown]

is it gambling if you uninstall details?

[zealous wolf]

he says if you need ironwire you drop sudden demise

[stark scroll]

drop it in stone vault and unbind kick

for sure

[spice spire]

Yeah because then I’d have to pay attention to the boss instead of tunneling details only

[stark scroll]

its good bro play it and see how you like it

[spice spire]

Then I’m gambling on actually playing well for once

[tired gull]

Details should take up a minimum of 20% of your screen for optimal dps

[stark scroll]

I havent pushed keys over 12

[zealous wolf]

i will, just asking if anyone already tried it

[stark scroll]

but I found it quite good on boss damage

for 12s

[warm vortex]

Playing pug without iron wire 🤢

[zealous wolf]

you can in some dungeones

[stark scroll]

I que with a tank friend and a dps friend

[spice spire]

Real

[warm vortex]

Not really
With a group that has their monitor turned on: yea
With pugs: no

[warm vortex]

I p much do full on pug

[zealous wolf]

i also pug and i get away with it

but i still play MA

[stark scroll]

ma is fine and all

I have preference four double vanish build

my tank likes to chain pull the entire dungeon

[zealous wolf]

and you get 1 more vanish per dungeon? seems bad

[stark scroll]

If he doesnt do that casuals build pulls ahead

[lone parrot]

i see top assa rogues dropping sudden demise in high keys, what key levels do yous reckon i should drop it?

[stark scroll]

sometimes one more vanish is all we need to add 2 minutes of time

depends on your intrinsic value

[coral ibex]

i drop sd at 10/11

[stark scroll]

then put it back on in 12

[lone parrot]

o7

[warm vortex]

I still run SD

[warm vortex]

I find it a lot better than 1 lethalitt

[coral ibex]

the reality is that unless you are literally vanishing on cooldown in m+, WAT will result in more vanish casts

[warm vortex]

Which means more MA

[fallen arch]

I dont think the alternatives to sd are much better

[coral ibex]

if you were ever holding vanish for a specific chain pull or something, you get another cast

etc

[golden briar]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[thin dock]

guys any math. reason for numbing over atropic

or other waz round

[halcyon grail]

U wot, m8?

[fleet crest]

How important is tier for us?

[late surge]

pretty important

its free dam afterall

idk the exact number tho

but my guess would be 4p is about 6% dps?

[royal lantern]

numbing in m+, atrophic in raid

numbing is less tank dmg and easier interupts, atrophic is slightly less group dmg sometimes

[pure moth]

pretty sure i have the worst luck with this trinket proc... with the debuff.. always during cds

the pull and 2 mins.. its like come on now lol

[warm vortex]

Oh I ran atrophic in m+

I dumb

[humble ginkgo]

first time using transmitter do you pop it early before you deathmark to get the buff as u press deathmark?

[final stratus]

Can somebody confirm if Caustic does not benefit from single-target Shiv buffed envenoms? 1m envenom -> 400k caustic, shiv into 1.3m envenom -> 400k caustic still? Seems weird to me it would work like that

[royal lantern]

i mean, thats ok aswell, people in really high keys do that aswell

[royal lantern]

before dm and use dm(and the cd window) when you have the buff, yes

[normal mist]

[eager condor]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hNc8QvPH8EFNsTRDgGs2kC

[humble ginkgo]

kk

[eager condor]

am i just too low on haste here, and thats why sackborood is doing so much or is it really that great for single target

[humble ginkgo]

really hoping I just get a skardyns in vault because this trinket is aids as fuck lol

[royal lantern]

but im honest skip, cant tell you the excat time to use it cus i didnt use transmitter yet, was blessed with a mythic skardyns

[humble ginkgo]

ye im just gonna look at logs

what they do

[royal lantern]

whisp is using transmitter, he can probs say the "perfect" timer

[vagrant brook]

most likely yes

[royal lantern]

saccbrod/crystal/spyglass are all more or less equal

[eager condor]

oh

[royal lantern]

doesnt really matter which one you have and use

[eager condor]

roger TY, obv sim...but should i swap some shit around for more haste?

ok I have all 3 LOL

just got sack lastnight so why im simming..

[royal lantern]

sim

thats it

[eager condor]

roger. Crystal is > dungeon slice

makes sense TY

[royal lantern]

ye crystal tends to be a bit better then the others in m+

[eager condor]

I come from WW, where theres never really a "all of them work"

[royal lantern]

instant stat proc and stuff

[woeful meteor]

use prior to mark and once you have buff press dm that's the sim way at least

[eager condor]

makes sense, thank you for explaining

[junior yoke]

Ready for the st nerf?

[humble ginkgo]

im looking at logs and people just press it same almost at the same time as dm

and then theres this one

[woeful meteor]

I have it macrod to dm cba pressing it prior unless I know movement is coming

[royal lantern]

well, assa doesnt really care about stats, so when we have 3 trinkets that give more or less the same amount of stats, it results in "they all 3 are same-y good"

[humble ginkgo]

yeah ill just get used to it

[eager condor]

hmm - Go figure thats a whole new world for me. TY

assa is also fun as shit

[tired apex]

is there a downside of having an embellish on the offhand dagger ? or no difference whatsoever ?

[potent lance]

anyone play supercharger/forced induction talent?

have some questions about shiv using on this talent

wowhead have guide for this talent?@balmy condor

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[craggy ruin]

boys first boss of NW you can cloack the frontal?

[potent lance]

its buggy you ahve too clock last se cof cast

idk if they fixed it or not

[craggy ruin]

last second?

[potent lance]

yeap

[craggy ruin]

ye it still like this but i wanted to confirm

[coral ibex]

!nw

[prisma monolith]

The breath/frontal from the first boss in Necrotic Wake is an attack, not a spell.

In order to immune the the breath, you must be in the first second of cloak of shadows (“a moment of magic immunity”). After the first second of cloak of shadows has elapsed, the attack will hit you and no longer be immuned.
Alternatively you can use evasion to dodge the breath.

[coral ibex]

its not bugged, it was just changed to an attack

[potent lance]

oh okk

[royal lantern]

doesnt matter

[crisp burrow]

is there a reason

I don't see people using vanish on cds

on ovinax?

[main blaze]

What vanish do if you dont have the talents for it

[crisp burrow]

well true you dont run improved garrote or ma

but still at least for an ambush or something?

[spice surge]

Ambush doesnt do more damage than mutilate

[ancient rain]

!shiv

or something

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[viral current]

what talents do ppl run nowdays for m+10 and higher?

this is what i ahve rn

[wheat oxide]

did subterfuge get buffed?

[oak tangle]

yes, it now affects ic and ma

[arctic socket]

Looks fine, I just like using double vanish instead of lethality

[wheat oxide]

oh nice gonna try this build out then

[arctic socket]

The extra iron wires / playing subterfuge makes 2 vanish charges feel good to me

[real pike]

Does this have potential for more throughput than the 'traditional' build without subt/MA or is the advantage purely utility?

[cloud yew]

more throughput

master assassin is goated

[real pike]

Oo will have to give it a try

[dapper hound]

12+

[cloud yew]

you can try and sim it but MA has always been a gain for me

[late surge]

just make sure to drop SD for iron wire in the keys u need IW 🙂

[dry dagger]

Just got Exalted with Ravenholdt, can I call myself a proper rogue now?

[dapper hound]

yea

[wraith briar]

do you guys use mouseover macros for garrote/rupture in m+

to spread them around easier

[dry dagger]

Yeah

[faint vessel]

sometimes

[dry dagger]

Rupture at least

[novel star]

i do but i basically only use it for iron wire

dps diff is smol

[faint vessel]

I have the mouseover in my normal bind and if i think to use it i use it

but usually just for IW

[wraith briar]

ic

[potent lance]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[warm vortex]

Completely outlandish thought

Dropping SD for double shiv
That bad or is it really bad

[subtle tundra]

Extraordinarily bad

[warm vortex]

Lmao

[quartz spear]

If you have DN proc with 6cp, what's the button of choice?

[warm vortex]

I should try the supercharger build, it would feel weird without subter tho

[real pike]

do hunters and DHs have better pure ST damage in raids than us right now (sikran and kyveza)? or am I just gigabad

[warm vortex]

The only hunter in my group gets beaten by tanks on dps KEK

[quartz spear]

Mut and overcap on cp? FoK? Refresh Garrote even if not in pandemic window?

[real pike]

I was getting shown up by our hunters and DH on kyveza pulls last night

feelsbad

[versed gulch]

Just a possibility, but how far are you on the boss percentage wise?

[warm vortex]

I would assume FoK in aoe or Mutil in st
And if your in pandemic hit garrote ig?

[quartz spear]

I've been doing FoK even in ST just because it's less energy but idk

That's kinda why I ask

[real pike]

mixed bag 😂

[versed gulch]

Because if you're not getting into Zoldyck range yet they're basically zero DPS talents

[warm vortex]

True

[real pike]

ahh makes sense, didn't know if they also had execute and how much that accounts for our damage

[warm vortex]

Ik hunter does

With kill shot right

[real pike]

I was ahead on the low pulls but also because they died because you know hunters

[warm vortex]

I’m usually top 3 dps in my group

With an enhancement, elemental or fury beating me or being other top 3

I log into my uni work page thing and get a notification about counter terrorism

Confused the fuck out of me

[real pike]

nearly always mut, fok if you have the crit buff proc thing and maybe gar if you're very close to pandemic or the boss is about to move/phase

[warm vortex]

Worse feeling ever when you’re at 2 CP with a DN. you mutilate twice and get to 6CP

Wanna break my keyboard

[real pike]

yeah and then you drop envenom chain

[warm vortex]

True

Then your wife divorces you

Then you lose your job

[quartz spear]

With TTK, are we ever not just blasting Envenoms?

[warm vortex]

Slowly wound up into depression and die

Because you missed some SF procs

[warm vortex]

Try it and tell me how well that works with energy

[real pike]

you can tbh

[quartz spear]

Well I just mean there never felt like there was a chance to just "chill"

[warm vortex]

Just not like

Literally spam it over and over without stopping

[real pike]

the dps difference between pooling and just sending + thistle on cd is actually minimal

[warm vortex]

That will fuck up your energy

[quartz spear]

Yeah I remember this discussion a few weeks ago

And I don't know where it landed

[warm vortex]

I’m still unsure on how to use TTK tbh

Like

[quartz spear]

But it feels like pooling isn't really a thing

[real pike]

however you prefer to play really

[warm vortex]

I can’t 100% upkeep 2 stacks

[real pike]

I mean I do the pooling

no just try and keep up 1 stack

[warm vortex]

So I just sometimes wait for one stack to run out before enven if I’m low on energy

Yeye

[real pike]

I make sure to overlap 2 if I'm in a free phase though

[warm vortex]

I try for two but. Just focus on keeping one

[real pike]

like lust

[warm vortex]

Oh ofc

[grim jay]

I mean doing easy stuff yourself is kinda part of your growthjourney as a human being and it has nothing to do with being a Karen, its just not what this discord even is for.

[warm vortex]

Then you realise you dipped 1 energy below the tea threshold and you can’t cause you auto drank

[warm vortex]

Tbf

[merry bison]

Bro it’s a world of warcraft discord

[warm vortex]

It is faster to ask here
Sometimes searching for things can be annoying

[merry bison]

Are u out of your mind

[quartz spear]

I rly hate auto drink 😩

[warm vortex]

I like auto drink c

Sorry keyboard stoped working there

Also being forced to play bleed build is the worse punishment known to man

[royal lantern]

Bro it's a world of warcraft diacord

[merry bison]

Like he acts if like nobody ever in this discord had a dungeon favored question

bozo

[warm vortex]

Quick note fuck the sites that tell you to turn off add blocker to use them

[merry bison]

word !

[warm vortex]

Like I just want to get a citation for a website I’m referencing

[grim jay]

Good that you didnt grasp what it was about, but cba arguing with someone that cant google 3 words.

[grim jay]

Ima diacord you

On the mouth

[merry bison]

💀

[warm vortex]

All three of you

[merry bison]

You something else Davyn, stop getting on peoples nuts without any reason

[warm vortex]

Kiss

And make up

[merry bison]

only person I would kiss is zac

[grim jay]

Could turn that around and the plural would even actually fit

[grim jay]

I only kiss tira, tryan and quake

[warm vortex]

Not me?

[dapper heath]

i'll kiss you

[grim jay]

Well maybe

[dapper heath]

no questions asked

get over here

[merry bison]

U weird ong

[grim jay]

Same, whatever you said

[spice spire]

[grim jay]

Thats deep

[spice spire]

Why are we being meanies

[quiet oar]

[grim jay]

Because you arent here

[spice spire]

Ahh

[dapper heath]

need to spead the love my guy

i'm all about that positivity

[merry bison]

Everybody was positive in this channel except this one dude bashing people for asking questions

[spice spire]

Call me “the love” the way I be spreading

[merry bison]

That shi brazy

[dapper heath]

aayyyeee

get on over here

i'll give you a hug

[warm vortex]

[faint vessel]

so with the most recent ST build running arterial etc, no change to shiv use, right?

[spice spire]

Nop.
Just shiv before kb and 8s to go

[faint vessel]

sweet, thanks

still vanishing last 6s of KB/DM etc

[spice spire]

Yessir

[dapper heath]

let's take a moment to reflect on the fact that we out there lads

assa lookin funky fresh

[faint vessel]

for Without a Trace M+ play....I just....vanish sometimes on bigger pulls?

and then use a vanish charge on bosses if its available during KB/DM?

[spice spire]

Yep

2/2 so far

[faint vessel]

Ive been using it as a damage boost/oh shit button to save the pull

[warm vortex]

I know this doesn’t relate to assassin

But this is the off topic channel

[faint vessel]

my head canon is they broke INTO the building using a bear crawl style entry

just barreled in

[grim jay]

@spice spire everytime you join the chat

[warm vortex]

Tbh it’s how powerful you feel after getting grace

[faint vessel]

my guild was really happy for me to stfu after I got it in vault

[spice spire]

[faint vessel]

and for me to be willing to do keys that werent GB

[spice spire]

That’s some insane vibe man

I’ve never had pre

[gusty mirage]

???????????????

[spice spire]

Pretty sure I’d die or kill my muscles

[spice spire]

What’s good

[gusty mirage]

U good?

[spice spire]

Nah

[slate crown]

[grim jay]

That one is insane. I didnt like other ones tho, they kinda get me way too tingly

[warm vortex]

Bro

[spice spire]

But I’m better now that ur here

[warm vortex]

I saw pre and my brain thought of something else

I’m so fucking tired

[grim jay]

[quiet oar]

[spice spire]

Dog I literally just started creatine like.
3 months ago

[warm vortex]

And tbh ill I would expect it coming from you

[spice spire]

I’m a supplement virgin.
Just had protein + vitamins forever and it worked fine

[grim jay]

Creatine was one of the first things. Going strong for like 12 years now

[lavish geyser]

would you ever use tea, deathmark the kingsbane, and at 6 sec use tea again alongside the usual stuff

[grim jay]

Did you get caps or powder

[faint vessel]

I remember my first foray into creatine, post college started working on a trade desk and the traders were all big into lifting, had a gym downstairs in the office. I didn't heed the drink a lot of water advice from them and the internet

[spice spire]

Powder

I’m not a fan of it ngl I mix it in and no flavor

But still

I think I’d prefer caps

[faint vessel]

had to call out one day and got a good bit of shit for it, the stomach cramps were so extreme

[spice spire]

I drink about a gallon and a half a day

[faint vessel]

yeah thats good, youre fine

[lavish geyser]

nah dude, straight in mouth with powder, and flush it down with some water.

[spice spire]

(I piss nonstop, and hate it)

[faint vessel]

creatine made me be better about water, out of necessity

[grim jay]

Same, I take all 6 at the same time and done

[spice spire]

Brother

What the fuck

[quartz spear]

At the 1 minute mark of a fight when KB is back up, should we always have 2 charges of Shiv for it?

[spice spire]

Yes

[lavish geyser]

that is the real way of doing it man, or just get it with protein shake.

[warm vortex]

It’s like how you eat steak raw to become manlier

[spice spire]

I normally do it with protein shake

[lavish geyser]

XD, nah thats weaaak gotta have that medium rare

[faint vessel]

when I waited tables at a steakhouse we had a regular thatd come in a few times a year and order a raw filet, served on a cold plate

[lavish geyser]

💀

[faint vessel]

owner let us serve it to him, old country dude, was wild

[warm vortex]

Just eat the cow

[lavish geyser]

simulated hunt

[spice spire]

HUH

[warm vortex]

Skip the middle man

Run out into a field and take a bite out of a cow

[faint vessel]

yep. I waited on him a few times and once he seemed to imply only manly men would eat raw filet and offered me a piece and I obliged

[spice spire]

I’ve had “blue” rare where it’s seared only

[fickle lotus]

hell yea my rank 19 broodtwister parse was locked in

[spice spire]

And that shit ain’t it

[warm vortex]

Ever since I’ve tried to eat better, don’t think I’ve had steak once

[lavish geyser]

did he enjoy it at least? served cold as well is wild

[faint vessel]

black and blue is good like, occasionally but yeah not a huge fan

[warm vortex]

Yo king you dropped this 👑

[frigid pilot]

Yo is anyone actually getting 2 envenoms up before popping cds in opener?

[spice spire]

Steak goodge. But only as an occasion

[warm vortex]

Like every single dinner I have is chicken/pork and salad

[frigid pilot]

With twist

[faint vessel]

he loved it, dude came in and paid good money for a raw filet and a baked potato, nothing else

[spice spire]

I eat a lot of chicken

[lavish geyser]

would you ever use tea, deathmark the kingsbane, and at 6 sec use tea again alongside the usual stuff

[warm vortex]

Every breakfast is just porridge and mixed berries

And lunch is a good ok ham sandwich

[spice spire]

If you were low on energy yeah

[warm vortex]

I don’t think so?

[spice spire]

No

[frigid pilot]

So standard 1 envenom?

[lavish geyser]

yeah but not for dmg i suppose?

[frigid pilot]

Cool

[lavish geyser]

cause in aoe we are chilling on energy.

[spice spire]

Tea is used primarily for energy

Yeah

At that point

[warm vortex]

No

[spice spire]

Just rawdog that shit to get the usage eh

[warm vortex]

Tea is used to quench your thirst?

But the rea question is do you put sugar and milk in yours

[lavish geyser]

I mean good for him tbh, sounds like he just enjoys simple things.

[spice spire]

Because not casting is worse than getting a small amp and having it later

[warm vortex]

I’m more of a milk +nat sweetener

[spice spire]

No

[faint vessel]

the APL also casts tea with KB and then tea again for the latter part, right?

[spice spire]

If I drink hot tea we’re rawdogging it

[lavish geyser]

is it on gcd?

[warm vortex]

You probably like dark chocolate too

You degenerate

[dawn heath]

eh

[faint vessel]

Ive been slamming tea on KB in the opener and then hitting it again late in the KB window

[spice spire]

Yeah it’s because it lines w shiv nicely if it does.

[faint vessel]

right, and I have it bound to shiv

[spice spire]

No

[dawn heath]

have u guys ever had issues when ruptures doesntspread even though u have ID up?

[gusty mirage]

Guys my stomach hurts

[spice spire]

Yeah the tea > shiv idea is that you’ll always have a tea for kb and energy

[warm vortex]

I’ve heard not having a stomach fixes that

[gusty mirage]

There’s like this weird ass range check with IC

[faint vessel]

when you all told me I could just macro tea into shiv I rejoiced

[warm vortex]

Be like this man

[gusty mirage]

[dawn heath]

the mobs

were right ontop of the others

it didnt spread

[frigid pilot]

Wait why is tea not worth for the mastery anymore

[warm vortex]

Kind of like how nuking a country removes all unemployment problems

[short quarry]

does tea ever get used automatically in any situation? I keep getting charges used without pressing my keybind but i cant find a macro that has it macroed in

[frigid pilot]

Cus we’re energy starved?

[warm vortex]

Yes

[faint vessel]

if you go below 30 energy tea wil auto use

[warm vortex]

Read the tooltip

[dawn heath]

https://medal.tv/games/world-of-warcraft/clips/j2nabtGSiKIP6rsyi?invite=cr-MSxjQkMsMTcyMzI0NTA1LA wtf happend here?

[lavish geyser]

I mean you can only spread to 6, iirc,

oh

not big pull ig, then idk :):

[gusty mirage]

Yeah it does an initial check on the target for garrote and then a check on your character for rupture so it’s possible you were slightly out of range or moving and the game is dogshit so it thought you were out of range

[dawn heath]

i rupture main target twicethe mobs dont ruipture

[gusty mirage]

We had an old graphic explaining it

[brave trench]

is there a possibility where i can add the 636 crafted dagger with ascension to my sims?

[vast patio]

Sanity check: was the ettin fear in siege cloakable in bfa

[gusty mirage]

It’s dumb as fuck

[faint vessel]

yes, click the plus sign and theres an option to put an embelishment on it

[brave trench]

no i mean the whole item before crafting it

[warm vortex]

He just got scarier

[warm vortex]

?

That

Is exactly what he said?

[faint vessel]

you...click the plus sign?

[short quarry]

ya thats literally the whole item. set ilvl and embellishment

[faint vessel]

it makes a new item to pick from

[warm vortex]

X)

[brave trench]

ahh

ok

[gusty mirage]

Yeah in top gear, on the actual item itself

[brave trench]

ty alot

[faint vessel]

add the item witht he plus sign, then add a non-embelishment item

[gusty mirage]

Whoops wrong reply

Sorry adept ily don’t hate me

[faint vessel]

ill always love you

[gusty mirage]

[warm vortex]

[pliant remnant]

AND IIIII-IIIIIII

[warm vortex]

GET OUT

[pliant remnant]

WILL AAAAAAALWAYS LOVE

[warm vortex]

GET OUT

[pliant remnant]

YOUUUUUUUUUU

[gusty mirage]

Yo discord mobile might be the biggest piece of shit ever invented

Like real talk

[faint vessel]

isnt it frustrating

[short quarry]

https://giphy.com/gifs/titanic-movie-leonardo-dicaprio-tk39314j32wGk

[warm vortex]

Bro ret pally is right there

[gusty mirage]

[warm vortex]

This is a quote to live by

[gusty mirage]

They manage to make discord mobile worse with each update, it’s actually impressive

[short quarry]

discord isnt a real app. its a web interface badly coded as an app

[gusty mirage]

True

Found that out when I accidentally scroll zoomed while in app

Functions just like a browser it’s kinda funny

[brittle viper]

Guys what is the best build for M+ atm? I am running the hybrid build from WH but cant get over 2M on large pulls or 1.3M overall on 614 ilvl. I am using herorotation to learn how it all works but I feel like something is off. My 590 survival hunter is pulling the same numbers...

[manic quartz]

Spatterr doesnt reach Bloodbound horror adds if you attack boss only right?

[warm vortex]

Every time someone asks this whysper gets 2 years taken off his life

[warm vortex]

Nope

same with rash

[gusty mirage]

What’s your gear looking like? Your trinkets? Your main hand ilvl? Overall ilvl doesn’t tell us much. Are you keeping up caustic? Are mobs living long enough for you to get full death mark/kings bane value? What key level?

[warm vortex]

You might be playing wrong

[gusty mirage]

There’s a ton of factors that go into overall

[warm vortex]

Oxi beat me to it

Splatter is super important

Improving your splatter can like
Add 500K to your dps

If you are forgetting it a lot

Show what build your running

[gusty mirage]

I regularly pull 4-5m dps on CD’d packs in 11s at 619 ilvl

[brittle viper]

I'm running +7 keys atm. Got 5-piece tier on hero with this:

[gusty mirage]

Using the wowhead build

[spice spire]

Correct

[warm vortex]

Most I’ve hit is 7 mil

[gusty mirage]

Yeah your trinkets are assington city brother

[warm vortex]

But I haven’t done much 12

[spice spire]

But if you hit adds it reaches the boss

[warm vortex]

???????????

[brittle viper]

I know... But surely it not all that

[warm vortex]

Brother crysta is great

[coral ibex]

crystal is great

[gusty mirage]

Flaywing toxin?

[brittle viper]

The hybrid one?

[gusty mirage]

It’s not, idk how good hero rotation is these days because it could also be that

[gusty mirage]

Yessir

[dapper cradle]

If your group has giga ad damn, worth dropping caustic or just going sub on M rash?

[coral ibex]

yes

at least dropping caustic yea

[gusty mirage]

The real juice of your aoe is always going to be caustic spatter

[coral ibex]

idk about going sub

[warm vortex]

Full st

[gusty mirage]

And at 7s ngl your target ain’t living the full kingsbane

[warm vortex]

No crystal

[brittle viper]

Hmm.. Let my try hekili and see how it compares. I know I shouldnt be a rota helper pleb but brand new to rogue and trying to learn by doing

[warm vortex]

Having one shit trink and one rlly good one makes it ok overall

[warm vortex]

What’s your comp like

Do you have a single warrior

[gusty mirage]

Hey man, you do what you gotta do to enjoy the game. I ain’t gonna shit in you for using a rotation helper. Everyone starts somewhere

[warm vortex]

Beast post the build you are playing

You can try some different things

[dapper cradle]

Our comp is cooked - we have fury, fdk, and ret

[coral ibex]

yea go full ST

[clever sapphire]

caustic on rash will not reach a single add in 99% of the cases probably, tanks would have to grip the mobs under the boss for you to get spatter value

[dapper cradle]

Ads are basically gone

[coral ibex]

you're never getting caustic uptime

[dapper cradle]

Was having this issue as well

[brittle viper]

Basically the hybrid from WH

[dapper cradle]

Aight gamers ty, full ST it is

[warm vortex]

Same build I run

[coral ibex]

adds have to be dropped literally up rash's asshole to get hit by spatter

its so sick

[inland escarp]

We drop the adds under the boss on rash

[warm vortex]

Dude

One warrior alone blows up the ads

[slim pebble]

Sounds hot

[warm vortex]

God I wish that were me

“No escape!”

I’m sorry

[slim pebble]

I got taken to gapplebees by a fury warrior on rash it felt like

[inland escarp]

I definitely hit them with spatter

[coral ibex]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/871VYzm6gTLJBMnP#fight=47&type=damage-done

no caustic uptime for me

[dapper cradle]

Haha all the top mythic parses are fury

And that’s after like 4 nerfs

Insane

[gusty mirage]

What’s probably happening is shits getting deleted by other people blasting CDs and your dps is getting ruined because of that

So keep that in mind as well

It’s possible you’re doing everything fine and just getting fucked by the hero classes of wow shitting our infinite damage

[brittle viper]

I am thinking the same. Since assass is basically a dot build like aff lock or spriest

[warm vortex]

That is true

Try on dummies

[coral ibex]

👍🏻

[warm vortex]

And see how you do

Because sometimes even in 12s things can die too fast depending on comp

[gusty mirage]

Ye

[brittle viper]

On 5 dummies I get 2.5M sustained over like 3 minutes

[gusty mirage]

And you just end up sad

By the time you get everything rolling everything’s at 35% health and it’s like oh okay fuck me I guess

[crisp burrow]

Why sometimes when I ambush on pull do I not apply deathstalker mark?

Is it buggy or something

[coral ibex]

parry

[crisp burrow]

Fuck

[warm vortex]

Tbh

2/3 classes I play felt like that on 7s

[coral ibex]

yea any key below an 8 i feel like i have to rip cd's before i even get up CT or envenom or i just wont even get half a use

[ebon notch]

singular focus

is pretty bonkers

[crisp burrow]

I played full single on rash

Just use them to funnel with fan of knives

[coral ibex]

yea same

[crisp burrow]

Every single other melee just one shots them

[alpine pagoda]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1266209077940457525/1301318860682559558/Tumblr_l_131297895023973.gif

[quasi stump]

hi rooges

how are we this morning

[crisp burrow]

This happened to me in some 10s even

[brittle viper]

I should then just start pushing higher I guess. Then I watch MDI and see assass rogue pulling 2.5M overall and I cry

[gusty mirage]

Can ambush be parried??

[crisp burrow]

Honestly sometimes it feels I do more damage if I don't use kingsbane

Lmfao

[gusty mirage]

I feel like it can’t

[grizzled geyser]

if u stand infront of the boss, why not

[coral ibex]

bosses can parry anything

afaik

[gusty mirage]

Emotionally unwell as I’ve been my entire rogue career

[gusty mirage]

SICK GAME

THANKS BLIZZARD

[coral ibex]

[gusty mirage]

It used to be anything from stealth couldn’t be parried or missed

[valid leaf]

Oxi dooming

[gusty mirage]

I say used to be because this game sucks

I’m gonna go play ashes of butthole or whatever that dogshit game is called

[grizzled geyser]

hm, couldve sworn you can miss ambush from stealth in classic, but maybe not

[hollow river]

If you only pvp the boss can’t parry ANYTHING

[gusty mirage]

I think the no miss change happened in tbc

[crisp burrow]

Sometimes I don't apply deathstalker mark on pull so if they aren't parrying idk what it is

Must be parries

[gusty mirage]

Because it’s kinda weird if you’re stalking someone to miss the attack 💀

[ebon notch]

ashes of butthole

[gusty mirage]

I think there was a bug that did that in 11.0.5 launch, but it was supposedly fixed

[crisp burrow]

It happens to me a lot and idk if I'm doing something wrong

I' recently rerolled back to rogue so I've been playing something else the entire patch

[gusty mirage]

Ashes of butthole

[quartz spear]

What is this little blue line for the Envenom stacks?

[fickle lotus]

progging mythic Kyveza and Brood was so fun when my kingsbane would parry 🙂

[ebon notch]

pandemic

[ebon notch]

it does look good

[crisp burrow]

I'm progging Ovi with my guild still

[ebon notch]

im hoping i get a natty invite

[crisp burrow]

Tbh I like the boss

[gusty mirage]

You look good

[warm vortex]

Guys I’ve got a nice amount of money to spare, was wondering if I should get an art commission 🤔

[quartz spear]

I assume the blue lines for imp garrote?

Is the intention here to convey that you prob shouldn't pandemic extend it if possible to maximize imp garrote?

[boreal peak]

if i have a supercharged combo point but build to 7 CP anyway before a finisher, does it do anything extra or just go away?

[slate crown]

Yes, and yes

[royal lantern]

yes and ye

damm lis was faster

[slate crown]

The aura will also glow bright blue

If you are safe to cast over it

like if you have imp garrote up, AND the current garrote is improved and in pandemic, it will bright blue glow

Typically this happens only in the opener

[slate crown]

Supercharge increases finisher by 2/3 combo points. If you build to 7, it will cast as if it is with 9/10 combo points

[boreal peak]

theres no damage description beyond 7 points so i wasn't sure

[slate crown]

Yeah the tooltip won't indicate it

but trust, it does

An envenom with 10 combo points = 10 second duration

(12 with TTK)

[warm vortex]

also still curious on this totally assassination related question

Hey lis don’t you owe me a WA

[spice spire]

If it brings you joy absolutely

[warm vortex]

Might do tbh

[severe meadow]

Quick question, trying to improve opener: If we don't get MoD from the first FoK, do we slam another FoK or ignore and follow through?

[warm vortex]

Tbf I don’t really use money atm? Minus train tickets, wow subscription and like other boring things

[spice spire]

Savings

[warm vortex]

Yea

That’s what I’m using it for

[spice spire]

Just follow through

[warm vortex]

Haven’t got a comm in a while and just started talking to an artist I haven’t been talking to in a while

[severe meadow]

Follow up; is keeping MoD up high prio or do we just slide in FoKs when it fits?

[spice spire]

Mod is barely tracked.
Just slide in fok when it fits

[warm vortex]

What’s MoD again

[severe meadow]

Mom of despair

[spice spire]

Momentum of despair

Damage amp when you crit an fok for next fok or Ct

[warm vortex]

Tf is momentum of despair

[warm vortex]

Wish I could have one of those

Oh I didn’t know that was an ability

Lmao

[spice spire]

[warm vortex]

I read most of them

[spice spire]

Hero tree

[warm vortex]

Forget about most of them

OHHHH

That one

Yea I know it now

[spice spire]

Fok and black powder

[warm vortex]

It’s the one that is like

[spice spire]

[warm vortex]

A node between path of blood right

[severe meadow]

It breaks my balls when it doesn't proc during opener

[sharp viper]

it's not worth playing around at all

[spice spire]

Why

To breaking balls

[warm vortex]

How bad is fate in M+ btw

[placid wave]

Where can i find information of playing with Sanguine Blades + TTK?

[boreal peak]

Thank you.

[severe meadow]

Brain feel good when it procs

But I also felt like it had more prio

Now I know

[warm vortex]

Tbh

I don’t really play around those sorta things personal

Cause it’s like

If it goes off it goes off yknow

[severe meadow]

Just trying to improve parses and play better is all

[warm vortex]

Fair

Also
Commission question earlier reminded me that my wow goblin has art technically

[severe meadow]

I'm happy with some oranges / rest purples but can always improve

[warm vortex]

So that’s cool

[warm vortex]

Bro I’m happy with my

Lemmie find it

With these

[coral ibex]

i randomly had a really good rashanan log the other day

[warm vortex]

Minus ulgrax

[warm vortex]

You enjoyed subterfuge

Bro I remember meeting you like

“Oh he is kinda weird he likes it”

Now I never ever run anything without sub

[coral ibex]

why did i take the whole guild to gapplebees

[dapper cradle]

Damn is that M?

[granite pagoda]

On bloodbound do you keep caustic spatter on the boss and have it would spread to the adds?

[coral ibex]

no

you have to hit the mobs

[warm vortex]

I fucking wish

Heroic

For blood I usually like

[dapper cradle]

I was like

[warm vortex]

Focus boss

Trying to rup spiders if they come up

[dapper cradle]

For blood you go outlaw fr fr

[warm vortex]

Ct all ads

[warm vortex]

I could get my mythic parses

And I just opened my search and was playing music at max

Mid uni class

Thank fuck it isn’t a lecture

[granite pagoda]

My ping too high for outlaw

[dapper cradle]

I know u could ur amazing

[slim pebble]

Mad Queens mandate is so busted for silken court

[coral ibex]

hope we kill kyveza tn so i can be in for the ovinax reclear

[warm vortex]

Ik they are empty

But it’s a more casual guild

Like we ain’t benching anyone, don’t care about our comp too much

[spice spire]

Mythic kill is mythic kill man gz

[warm vortex]

We mainly went for curve and just thought

“If we can do mythic it’s a bonus”

[slim pebble]

What if all the mythic kills were just the friends we made along the way

[severe meadow]

Funny because Ulgrax is my best parse on heroic xd

[wicked quartz]

anyone available for a log review? not really sure how to ask i was looking around for pins but can't find anything

[warm vortex]

Idk why

[spice spire]

I had a decent heroic parse on Sikran rat night considering no warrior or dh it could have been the juicer

[warm vortex]

I always always suck at ulgrax

[spice spire]

Post I can thread it

[severe meadow]

Our group nearly kills it before it phases

[warm vortex]

I was shocked we got 2 done on our first go

Or first night

[wicked quartz]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wAHB4b2zM97WYkRv#fight=last&type=summary

[warm vortex]

Considering we are casual

[dapper cradle]

Ur dog is so cute bruh

[warm vortex]

And I’m surprised we got ulgrax in like

4 attempts

[slim pebble]

We had a 12% pull on kyveza last night (I was benched). I hope it dies soon

[severe meadow]

We still on the brood wall

[stark scroll]

I am usually top 3 dps in my m+ runs

[severe meadow]

Prot paladin can change that

[stark scroll]

My main tank I run with is prot paladin

If i play an alt he is normally top damage in any key below 7

[warm vortex]

Dude

I was gonna say gratz

[stark scroll]

I barely beat him on my 590 warrior

[warm vortex]

Because my brain stopped work ton

*working

[stark scroll]

Im just being a goofball

[warm vortex]

Me too

Look at my pfp
Does this look like the face of a serious gamer

[fluid dagger]

anybody have screenshots of their UI/HUD? need ideas, trying to dial this in a bit so its not useless clutter

[dapper cradle]

I live and die by zac’s wa

[next compass]

Guys, how many haste is most profitable for ST? Sim tries to respec me into crit (til 30 unbuffed) with 6-8% haste, should i believe it?

[fluid dagger]

i have some was but def wanna see like most optimal setups, ty sub

[coral ibex]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[dapper cradle]

If his wa pack has no fans, than I am no longer of this earth

[coral ibex]

i mean idk about most optimal but i like my ui

[fluid dagger]

yeah i like it. clean

[next compass]

i run out of energy often on st, thats why i ask

[slim pebble]

Wait whose is this I kinda like it

[slim pebble]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[coral ibex]

atrocityui + some other dungeon weakauras

[slim pebble]

I wish I didn’t have to have his two giant packs for his rogue WA

[spice spire]

I’d never bench u king

[coral ibex]

i mean you can use just the class wa

[spice spire]

Where’s mal when you need them

[coral ibex]

you don't really need anything else

[slim pebble]

I’d just need to get a standalone energy and combo point then right

[coral ibex]

no

they're in the rogue pack now

don't need the essentials wa

[slim pebble]

Oh fuck that changes everything

Brb

[coral ibex]

[fluid dagger]

yeah more or less looking for placement cause my ui is everywhere ahah barely utilize it correctly, gameplay is good... figure i could be better if i actually used this shit

[faint vessel]

is that only available behind the patreon?

[vestal cliff]

finally good bloodbound log this week

[faint vessel]

not against subbing to check it out, just wanted to confirm

[coral ibex]

idk i use my twitch prime

[warm vortex]

Dude Harvard referencing is harder to understand than the Assa rota

[faint vessel]

oh, good idea.

[spice spire]

@twilit hollow

[spark lion]

anybody have any good clickable WA for poisons?

[coral ibex]

unironically, figure out if you are left or right eye dominant and put important things to track on the side of the screen with your dominant eye

[twilit hollow]

What's up

[coral ibex]

you will notice them more with peripheral vision

[twilit hollow]

I am summoned

[spice spire]

Rogue AUI questions figured you’d know big dog

I’m just double checking here

[coral ibex]

someone asked how to obtain atrocityui

[spice spire]

It’s old but it still works

https://wago.io/yUMsTUPTx

[twilit hollow]

Patreon discord or twitch subs

[coral ibex]

[spark lion]

ty

[twilit hollow]

Appreciate you beast

[spice spire]

Ty sir sorry for summon ty goat

[twilit hollow]

Naw don't apologize

[worldly bridge]

is there any command on discord // bot that can remind me about this tomorrow? I know its a thing on reddit i will 100% forget it next time im gaming lol

[coral ibex]

oh while you're here, do you know off-hand where in the plater profile the "hide parasites" function is

[spice spire]

Unless you have a personal disc, no

[fluid dagger]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[twilit hollow]

I think its the performance units mod

[coral ibex]

ty king

[twilit hollow]

It has the parasites in there I think

Can remove their unit ID

[coral ibex]

nah i want to just import that into my modded plater profile

rather that than the resize mod

[kind isle]

do i sim assa on nightly lastest or weekly?

[spice spire]

Latest

[warm vortex]

Actually I wonder how high I sim dslics

No idea how high or low this is

[tawdry flint]

dslice?

[slim pebble]

Higher than me

[violet berry]

Does improve shiv effect your caustic spatter dam as well?

[ebon notch]

if im in pure ST and i have max duration garrote but im still in subterfuge

am i ambushing or mutilating

[raven egret]

Dungeons slice, a flawed sim profile but close enough to give an idea how to itemize for M+

the actual dps number doesnt mean much

[azure osprey]

hello, is this dagger any good? it doesnt have secondary stats

[royal lantern]

no

it isnt

cus it has no secondarys

[slim pebble]

I miss how broken edge of night was

[winged sun]

guys

what do i drop for ironwire

ttk?

[warm vortex]

True I just used it cause people suggested it

[warm vortex]

My beloved

[raven egret]

I kept mine in storage, forever loved

[raven egret]

Wut? Context?

cause in M+ the builds all have IW already so not sure for what content you are asking

[vast patio]

Some top io rogues aren't running it so probably grabbed one of their builds

[raven egret]

yeah but that doesn't change the question; M+ builds are all listed with IW, if you drop IW to use something else thats on you. So the original question is solved by; using the actual builds

[bleak sky]

ambush

[faint vessel]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[spice spire]

Mutilating

[ebon notch]

mixed messages

[spice spire]

There’s like 600 modifiers for mutilate

As long as you have dn up just mut

[ebon notch]

kk

[feral mason]

i have deez nuts up

[spice spire]

Okay it’s darkest night dudes

He’s asking an actual question

I’m not that much of a hater (yet)

[thorn fjord]

fotm ambusher

[trail locust]

Master ass ass do ypu want to use it from stealth@spice spire ?

[spice spire]

Wat

[trail locust]

Alrgiht thank

[ebon notch]

XD

[fresh blaze]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[winged sun]

no theey dont

o the sudden demise build