assassination

[wild pine]

im using the crafted dagger with the blessed weapon grip on my main hand. should i swap it to ascendancy?

cz i have a hero regicide in my off

cz i realised few minutes ago if its in ur main hand everybody uses ascendancy

[arctic socket]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/e9sDNrTfHZTqex5X426PUZ @thorn fjord

[coral ibex]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iHhRKXppuCbPYuVfvnA3qS

[high walrus]

just sim whichever is better

[coral ibex]

1.37 at 630

[high walrus]

I think 99% of people run ascendancy

[arctic socket]

im pissed

bro

is simming

like

3k more

[high walrus]

<---- 1078 vers

[thorn fjord]

still the champ baby

[arctic socket]

should i like

can you sim

wep enchants for me

lmao

[thorn fjord]

yeah i got you

Which loadout though

or nm

i'll just use yours

sec

[arctic socket]

Single target

[high walrus]

also idk if it matters what hand you're using it in since it's just set rppm and you're hitting with both

[arctic socket]

make sure it's running IB

[high walrus]

I think you just put your higher ilvl in mainhand other than that I don't think it matters

[wild pine]

are u sure? everybody always told me theres a difference

that ur main hand attacks more

which i always found a bit weird

[arctic socket]

you put your highest ilvl in mh

off hand / main hand

procs the same

[high walrus]

I am not sure, but I'm like 99.9% sure

[wild pine]

i'll take your word for it then

LIKE SEE IM 200K DIFFERENCE

well ig not as long as i was alive

[arctic socket]

little baby sim

[wild pine]

i am not trying to compete with you babe

[arctic socket]

@thorn fjord be a goat and sim the best enchant / gem combo too

so i can go spend some gold

[thorn fjord]

that'll be 8 toes plz

[wild pine]

wtf

[arctic socket]

what about me with a turtle selfie?

[high walrus]

got rank 2 enchants because I don't want to give blizzard money for a token

[thorn fjord]

[arctic socket]

[wild pine]

why dps not stop going down when u die

that was a sentence

stupid af question

[abstract flower]

what do i do when all my tea is drunk and im ulow on energy 2 mins into a fight ?

[cobalt sphinx]

wait until you have enough energy to use an ability

and then use it

[wild pine]

bro helped

[coral ibex]

i love getting first mark on kyveza!!!

[wild pine]

dont you usually wanna just auto attack for a bit

[severe sparrow]

there's a setting you can make on details so your bar there stops going down whe you die, but it would real silly in real logs if you died right after lust+cds on pull and then had the gigaparse

[coral ibex]

8 pulls in a row

[severe sparrow]

if it stopped tracking at death

[high walrus]

place it in melee

[wild pine]

yeah ig so

[thorn fjord]

@arctic socket https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7PnquUh84dnfgDXjQod5a5

[high walrus]

or on the nearest ret pala

[thorn fjord]

Close but no cigar

[arctic socket]

So

i change to crit

[wild pine]

i just hate how it goes from like 1. something million to 907k

[arctic socket]

im surpised radiant is lower

[wild pine]

and then people look at it and say this guy sucks

[arctic socket]

wait

it didn;'t do wep

[wild pine]

i suck cz i died not cz i suck at rogue

[arctic socket]

@thorn fjord wheres the wep sim at

g

[thorn fjord]

yeah dying means you just suck at the game 😛

[high walrus]

didn't even sim my enchants I just put one of each

[wild pine]

exactly but i dont suck at my class

[thorn fjord]

Oh i only ran depths not radiance

[wild pine]

or so id like to think

[arctic socket]

do both pls

wanna see if radiance is pulling ahead

[high walrus]

spending 20k gold on a 3 dps difference

[arctic socket]

[cobalt sphinx]

same, if every fight was st patchwerk i'd be cooking too

[wild pine]

he gets it

[thorn fjord]

I need to find the augment rune plug

1700 each is not the play

[high walrus]

where do aug runes even come from

[arctic socket]

foor real

[high walrus]

never popped an aug rune in my life

[thorn fjord]

You see, when two runes love one another....

[arctic socket]

@thorn fjord tell the sim to hurry up

[high walrus]

I just collected 8000 gold when I did lfr as tank

was based

[thorn fjord]

step 3 7%

[high walrus]

because the bag gives them

literal only source I know of

[arctic socket]

Deep in raid

[coral ibex]

it feels so big brian to cloak the daggers

[wild pine]

how many algari gems do people use

just 1?

[drifting cloud]

it all works, its super close regardless

[runic hinge]

I’ll send you the ones I get from my engi patron orders

[tall jay]

How many “sockets” can we add now? 2 per ring neck wrist belt?

[solid hemlock]

guys, looking at high m+ players - most people go for ascendance embelishment unless mastery is your highest stat in which case weapon grip + dawn seems better. considering im a m+ degenerate and only care about rio, do i craft a 636 weapon with ascendance even tho i have 2 639 daggers?

feels weird to craft but is probably the way right?

[fresh kelp]

look pins

[thorn fjord]

breh that would be amazing

[solid hemlock]

the casualaddict pin?

oh

[runic hinge]

Well I cleaned them out today and sold the one I got already but in two days I got you

[fresh kelp]

yes, the high m+ players mostly still have their embellishments for M raid prog but dawnthread is just better in keys

[solid hemlock]

ty bro

[thorn fjord]

FYI in case anyone was wondering I still sim higher than @arctic socket thank you for coming to my TED talk

[solid hemlock]

gonna just craft boots or wrists then with my current setup because i can always repurpose that item slot if i get bored of sin

[arctic socket]

fuck

u

[shadow badger]

yo for the fatebound build am i just ripping cold blood on cd or should i bind it to shiv

[thorn fjord]

bind it to env

[shadow badger]

sick

[thorn fjord]

But generally the first env of the fight shouldnt be sent with CB and you wanna send the one after you activate KB but that requires a separate bind

I dont think its a HUGE loss either so prob negligable

But just so you know

[shadow badger]

[keen spruce]

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-cat-gif-22590242

[keen spruce]

It’s probably a smaller difference than any normal boss rng or crits or random missed global from movement

[thorn fjord]

yeah

[spiral rain]

why is the Sureki necklace considered bis? just for the utility to the healer?

[novel star]

healer mana + all stats are roughly equal and the proc just means that neck has more total stats on it than any other neck

[spiral rain]

ok ty I didn't know that about the stats, thought we wanted Crit > mastery and didn't really care about haste

[coral ibex]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[coral ibex]

we like all stats basically

especially in m+

[spiral rain]

so basically just bigger number= better

[coral ibex]

[zinc vine]

guys whats this icon? i cant find it anywhere lol

[coral ibex]

toxic blade

icon 135697

[zinc vine]

its on my WA and idk what its coming from

[coral ibex]

shiv

[zinc vine]

is it from tiny toxic blade or is that just base

[keen spruce]

Toxic blade was the spiritual successor to shiv from classic

And new shiv

Is the spiritual successor to toxic. Kade

Blade

Toxic blade no longer in the game

But the icon is cooler

[zinc vine]

oh i see

[keen spruce]

So I think a couple WA packs use it

[zinc vine]

gotcha its shiv but diff icon, check

[keen spruce]

Ye

[coral ibex]

atrocity is a boomer

i also have it

(i changed DM to vendetta)

[zinc vine]

lol yeah i got atrocity too

[iron valve]

I mean I first thought of the shard of azzinoth icon

am I a megaboomer

[elfin valley]

!WA

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[dense lodge]

Do we have to land on the specific combo point for forced induction or it auto consumes?

[balmy condor]

It’s auto on next finisher

[dense lodge]

yeh sweet

[fallow canopy]

its basically a +x on your next finisher

[arctic socket]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2rgedKZ6z1fxn9g9qqoWua @thorn fjord

ha

fuck u

[thorn fjord]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vkPntcRMYAPmG71dyym47K

[arctic socket]

aint no

[thorn fjord]

LMAO

[arctic socket]

fucking

WAY

FUCKING

100 DPS:????

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/hysterical-laughter-laughing-gif-25735842

[balmy condor]

Sim it again until it’s higher

[arctic socket]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/topgear

im trynna think

i cant sim

necklace n ring at the same time

;/

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-skill-issue-krill-issue-gif-25572478

Bro that made me laugh so much though thank you for that

[arctic socket]

gotta

think if i

socket / use this bad boi

[thorn fjord]

Oh yeah that'll prob put you over

[arctic socket]

thats wit hthe most recent sim

[thorn fjord]

You got a ton of upgrades pending

[arctic socket]

i just cant upgrade that necklace to 639

[thorn fjord]

SLACKING

[arctic socket]

im capped

🙂

[thorn fjord]

Must be nice

Im capped too 😛

[keen spruce]

Simply loot

A very rare next at 639 already

[cosmic creek]

how many targets do we use fan of knives?

[keen spruce]

3

[cosmic creek]

ty

[keen spruce]

3+ to be more accurate

But I trust your powers of deduction and reason

[cosmic creek]

lmao yeah i figured 3+

[runic hinge]

It’s 2 with deathstalker and thrown precision talented

Smh my head what a casual

[severe sparrow]

why the fuck is my talent build share > copy to clipboard not actually copying anything

[arctic socket]

got a second one now

ayo

[south tide]

Sims tells me that transmitter is 2% upgrade, is it just bait? the upgrade looks so juicy

[arctic socket]

🙂

SMELLY shamans

[hollow gazelle]

is fate even worth playing?

[abstract flower]

possible to turn off that the tea drinks by itself ?

[runic hinge]

Can I have one?

[arctic socket]

sure

[runic hinge]

Tysm

[arctic socket]

want a trinket too?

[hushed tinsel]

SUP! - what poisons are ran for m plus

[arctic socket]

deadly amp crip numbing

[hushed tinsel]

❤️

[runic hinge]

Is that mythic princess trinket? Maybe the anub crystal I’d try out too

[tough trail]

any thought on casuals build hes running? it sims pretty high for me

[arctic socket]

Nah

hero track

myth track skardyns tho

[arctic socket]

bro like copied my bnuild

[hardy crypt]

is it worth getting one of each gem colors for culminating blasphemite or should we just stack whatever stat's the strongest?

[static glacier]

it's good, kinda st skewed due to forrced induction

no irron wire is kinda greedy

[hardy crypt]

and if we stack for culminating blasphemite, do we go for the stamina gem too or is that too much

[tough trail]

haha hard to know who came up with what

[static glacier]

for pugs / less co-ordinated teams

[tough trail]

I figured, yeah I only skip ironwire in some dungeons but not many, puglife is hard. Ill try it out for fun tho, I really dont like to play around MA

[static glacier]

I never skip it

there's no real gain to be had

it's not like 1-2% extra dps makes up for what we lose

we can't trurst our tanks to rotate defensives / pull around group's cds and cc properly

nevermind having them actually use stops and kicks properly without overlapping

[nimble vector]

stam gem is bad

[coral ibex]

m+ gamers when they drop utility for a 1.3% gain

[static glacier]

if IW buys your tank 6-10s on pull I don't think the gain in taking other dps points makes up for it

all this is with a caveat that you're not some no life giga optimised group running 40 +15s a week like casual is

[runic hinge]

What if I smoke a lot of cigarettes indoors

[static glacier]

🫡 you are the chosen one

[arctic socket]

goated build

[tough trail]

no shot, ive been pugging all my 13s and its kinda a lottery with pugs, not that I play perfect but ofc youre right its a great utility

[runic hinge]

I don’t do that it’s bad for Stu

[gloomy heart]

can i get that skardyn and crystal

it wont DROP

neither will the wring

[static glacier]

for these world first key pushers they can make their own choices and know what they need

for the rest of us stumbling about key to key

we just take iw

[arctic socket]

it's because ur only doing 7

[nova kelp]

What you gotta do is just pick up the ring/trinket. Y'know. When you open the chest. Just like DON'T pick up the other things.

[eager peak]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[gloomy heart]

gf has low gear so getting in keys hard

[swift bluff]

Sounds like it’s time to get rid of the gf

[arctic socket]

[swift bluff]

I keed I keed

[gloomy heart]

NEED

TRINKET

[soft surge]

do i ever press shiv outside of kingsbane

[nimble vector]

in raid no, in m+ yes you have 1 shiv

[balmy condor]

*In m+ yes if you need prio dam

[coral ibex]

man i had a sick opener and did almost 5m dps and then the priest got yelled at for not pi'ing the unholy

[gloomy heart]

i got the GB ring

fnially

finally

[novel star]

kyveza going great one guy with uncentered dash every pull

[balmy condor]

You think that’s a tilter just wait till you have like a 10% wipe and then the next pull someone goes 3 marks instead of 2

[novel star]

we had a 3 mark instead of 2 pull

like

on the 6th pull

surely a one time only mistake

SURELY

[coral ibex]

hahahahaha

someone just said launch a nuke into my pussy mid pull

this is going well

[steep gust]

for myth kyveza, the first cast of daggers from boss, does it depend on tanks to point it outward or does it randomly pick someone?

[novel star]

random

i think

idk

simply dodge it

[drifting cloud]

tanks need to position the boss to the correct add

[novel star]

does it matter

[novel star]

daggers

not massacre

[drifting cloud]

oh oops yeah just random

just dont dodge to the outside of the middle if you can alot bigger chance to die there

[novel star]

[cobalt sphinx]

11 milli

bang bang

[coral ibex]

man its crazy to watch people struggle with "2 markers clockwise" after 50 pulls

[oak tangle]

just link them the portal logo

[coral ibex]

huh

[coral ibex]

oooooo

the aperture logo

i mean we have the meme video for them

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1288417071008579594/1303887382218674237/Kyveza_charge_guide.mp4?ex=672d6340&is=672c11c0&hm=bae35be29c569b04dd76f5c0bf7b19117cd9f51ccaea8376e25bf54abf26afb6&

[shadow badger]

for the fatebound build do i want to get max cp before envenoming with cb up?

[oak tangle]

ironically sounds a bit like glados

[analog idol]

hey yall learning ass rogue and had a question about deathstalkers mark

are u supposed to be using mutilate after 5 cp finisher to use the 50% dmg buff

or do u just spam fan of knives in aoe?

[oak tangle]

you'll likely have to mutilate at some point to reapply caustic, so it kinda handles itself

[wise gull]

Finally killed brood

[analog idol]

i mean yeah but u will lose like 2 procs of the buff i dont believe they stack

[raw marlin]

This is so catchy.

[wise gull]

Only a 54 though because my cat jumped on my fucking macbook and ran me across the room

during cds

[coral ibex]

oOoOoOoOo what a miracle~

[raw marlin]

I’m not even raiding this tier (lol at ww main) but I am an expert now

[coral ibex]

as a melee that video covers ~80% of what you need to know

its actually such a simple dance people just greed so hard

[raw marlin]

Nah I got benched as a ww in brood prog and now I just play m+ on my rogue ha

[coral ibex]

but also there's a lot of permutations and sometimes you get something you've never gotten before

[errant mauve]

dawnthread for M+ but whats best for raid

[oak tangle]

2 procs? not sure about that, 10s caustic, it's 6s to get one DN proc

[floral solstice]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[oak tangle]

but regardless to your original question, you dont care about consuming it, outside of it naturally happening, in aoe you care more about the added cp i would assume

[raw marlin]

Based on that sheet. Why we playing sin rogue when outlaw sims higher in m+?

[oak tangle]

there's a reason !whispyr doesn't do anything

[raw marlin]

Is that because it’s not updated or…..?

[oak tangle]

nah he doesn't believe in spreadsheets, because they really dont mean anything

[raw marlin]

But I see spreadsheet so therefore spreadsheets are real. It’s not a magical concept of illusion

[oak tangle]

outlaw to outlaw sims are useful, outlaw to sin sims are not

[raw marlin]

Higher number = higher?

[coral ibex]

there are a lot of times in m+ this season where the assa damage profile is just better, plus a different kind of utility in the spec tree

outlaw doesn't really burst at all

damage profile is completely flat

[rain mortar]

Is there any way to know which abilities on a boss are impact by atrophic and which ones are not? We are progging princess now but we are SUPER melee heavy. I’m the only rogue but also the only person who has an a ranged alt over ilvl 630. Trying to decide if we lose atrophic and have me do this one fight as ranged DPS how screwed we would be or if it’s not that big of a deal

[oak tangle]

logs and look for damage 'environemntal' that is not affected by atrophic

anything else is

[rain mortar]

Ty! General opinion, would losing atrophic probably be worse than just dealing with too much melee? We have 10 melee and 4 ranged. It’s rough on kyvezza

[balmy condor]

Depends what you’re dying to I guess

[oak tangle]

i've no valuable opinion on that as i haven't done M kyveza

[pulsar elk]

is 2/4/10 a common raid group size?

[balmy condor]

If you’re dying to intermissions then atrophic doesn’t do anything

Cause it’s basically all one shots

If you’re just ticking out to queensbane then like ehhhh….

[oak tangle]

2/3/9 , 2/4/12, generally 3 dps per healer, but ratios are cringe

[thorn fjord]

Stonks

@balmy condor are you CE yet?

[balmy condor]

Hell no

We haven’t pulled court yet

[thorn fjord]

Did you guys roster boss October too?

[balmy condor]

No

[thorn fjord]

We start princess prog tomorrow

October sucked

[waxen needle]

Small question i did a sim and it has radiant power as the higher damage weapon enchant is this bait and depths is still better or should i just listen to the sim?

[slow echo]

Can evasion dodge dots before it's applied?

[balmy condor]

Sim is accurate

[slow echo]

& does feint reduce the damage of dots if you faint before it gets applied

[thorn fjord]

My sims are showing the same

[balmy condor]

You can only dodge things that can be dodged, so I’m gonna say no

[waxen needle]

ok cool ty

[slow echo]

My group misled me! My first 12 was ROOOOUGH

[balmy condor]

The subgroup of attacks that can be dodged and dots that get applied

Is really small

[drifting cloud]

yeah maybe like 1-2 things a tier

if even

[balmy condor]

Feint only works on aoe attacks unless you’re talented into elusiveness, in which case it obviously works on everything

[slow echo]

and feint doesn't reduce damage of dots right?

[balmy condor]

It does not snapshot

[slow echo]

Gotcha thank you so much

[thorn fjord]

Would be kinda cool

[slow echo]

I also feel like my damage compared to casual addict's is so dog

Gotta work on that

[balmy condor]

It definitely wouldn’t be

[balmy condor]

Well you’re also not running his keys

That’s a terrible comparison point

Yeah bro I hit way less 3 pointers than curry that’s so weird

[thorn fjord]

Lmao

[drifting cloud]

seth curry?

[thorn fjord]

I miss 100% more 3 pointers than curry

[pulsar elk]

for queen, add platform its prio expeller on the first one?

[cerulean walrus]

Lamb curry?

[oak tangle]

idk about you but i have hit every 3 point attempt i've taken

[thorn fjord]

Masaman

[slow echo]

I did 1.2M on logs in a +12 CoT T.T

[thorn fjord]

Gotta get them numbers up baby

But if you timed it you timed it

[cerulean walrus]

But did you time?

[drifting cloud]

#outlaw

[slow echo]

We did, but I was lowest dps

[cerulean walrus]

Real

[thorn fjord]

But it was timed.. you did your part

[drifting cloud]

thats what I told myself when I parsed a 3 on ovinaxx

[cerulean walrus]

Huge

https://tenor.com/view/im-doing-my-part-serious-stare-gif-11979677

[thorn fjord]

I got a 65

🤷‍♂️

[thorn fjord]

You died tho right? lol

[drifting cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-meme-gif-468341328098124204

[runic hinge]

Hey it’s me ur lawyer

[swift moss]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/RfBGgFvzQYmLMt9a/6dtgVfX2C7QzmxNp#fight=23,31&source=11,Ackemag&type=resources&spell=103 how did I get gapped so hard in energy gen?

[thorn fjord]

@runic hinge 👀

[random basalt]

What food can I farm/steal with roge?

[runic hinge]

What now

[thorn fjord]

nothing

[storm forum]

He needs a lawyer

[thorn fjord]

I have one hes an SV main

[storm forum]

Pog

[oak tangle]

he has better envenom uptime, and has more crit than you

[runic hinge]

[pulsar elk]

so that means i dont have enough sockets?

[balmy condor]

You have use only 4 colors checked

And then selected 3 colors

3 < 4

[pulsar elk]

Oh dur

[delicate drift]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[thorn fjord]

@runic hinge I like turtles

[arctic socket]

[rotund oak]

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-cat-cat-ai-cat-beer-mage-cat-gif-12868949205036685497

[runic hinge]

Source?

[worn tulip]

can you stack writhing armor banding

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-theory-gif-10587157

[worn tulip]

not stack but...can i have two pieces of gear with writhing armor banding to multiply the effects

[spice spire]

What nerubian embellish would they amp then

(You can only have two embellishments)

[worn tulip]

ascendance

[spice spire]

You can’t have 3 embellishments

[worn tulip]

ohh it just doesnt let you?

[spice spire]

Yeah

Not equipable

[worn tulip]

damn i was trying to quadruple my ascendance lol

[solar wyvern]

Fellas

Howcome

Its always the 6% pull

I am NUKING this boss

[arctic socket]

Cry

[worn tulip]

one more question sorry i dont want to mess this craft up

[spice spire]

[worn tulip]

is 11% haste too low? should i throw extra haste in the missive for this piece

[vast patio]

lowkey didn't know about bubbling wax until today.

[spice spire]

Haste % doesn’t matter. Just toss it into raidbots and it’ll figure it out

Nothing to mess up as we like everything

[worn tulip]

I feel like im missing something with stat weights

im doing like 1.2m in +8's at 621

my mastery is a good amount higher than my crit

[thorn fjord]

@spice spire

[solar wyvern]

Stats wont make up 600k

[thorn fjord]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[solar wyvern]

You're playing wrong somewhere in keys

[thorn fjord]

This isn’t awful

[worn tulip]

ill check the rotation

[thorn fjord]

But it’s not amazing

[solar wyvern]

Its not bad indeed, but suboptimal

[worn tulip]

i think im having issues keeping envenom procd

[solar wyvern]

Yeah envenom uptime is #1 prio

Well

After bleeda

In 8s idk how fast packs die

But its important to kb and deathmark early

If a mob wont live the full 14-16 sec

[worn tulip]

i usually get a rupture in then deathmark to kb

[solar wyvern]

And ofc envenoming your spatter target

[worn tulip]

before i do any envenom

[solar wyvern]

Its kind of hard to explain, I suggest watching some good ass rogue videos

Watch how they spread dots

[worn tulip]

ight thanks

[solar wyvern]

Scent of blood you usually want 5 stacks of, which is why sbs is really good

[worn tulip]

ive just kinda started looking into my logs and my rotation to try and figure some things out

[solar wyvern]

Cause you can garrote, rupture, rupture and have 5 stacks out then you just burn a prio target

In lower keys where things wont live as long I wouldn't garrote more than once or twice

So you can spam caustic envenoms

Ofc unless you need iron wire

[worn tulip]

when i hit my opener on a mob get an envenom on my target...am i spamming envenom on him or do i spread it

[solar wyvern]

Envenom is a buff onto youraelf

[spice spire]

[runic hinge]

That’s where I’m at too but I know I’m playing wrong so just try to work at it

[runic hinge]

I need to get out of work. I’m dying here rn

[solar wyvern]

So no, you spread 5 ruptures and maybe 2 garrotes, and then mutilate/ambush for caustic and burn down your dsm target with envenoms

[runic hinge]

Should I get Taco Bell on the way home

[worn tulip]

ok thanks!

[pallid bough]

is Skardyn's preferred in M+ over Transmitter due to the functionality of transmitter?

or is mastery just giga good for M+

(I dont do keys often)

[blazing pumice]

mastery is giga good

[runic hinge]

Transmitter just kinda a bitch to play

[blazing pumice]

it's just a good trinket

[pallid bough]

ahh okay okay

[runic hinge]

Did it in a few keys and it got me killed chasing that orb

[pallid bough]

ya I was wondering if its worth playing SG hero track over a myth tracked transmitter

both maxed obviously

like +12-14 keys

[runic hinge]

I mean myth transmitter kinda huge but the mini game is up to you

[pallid bough]

hmm

[runic hinge]

Just pray for three jumps

[pallid bough]

ya the pad is kinda rough

LMAO

orb isnt bad

[runic hinge]

Pad in a swirly.

[pallid bough]

but when pad spawns during mythic queen

during web blades where we have to move

xddd

[runic hinge]

Orb sitting inside of last boss CoT ball

[pallid bough]

nah dude orb

going into the boss

during p1 intermission

[thorn fjord]

You gotta eat

[runic hinge]

Orb on bloodbound just running into the blood farther in

[thorn fjord]

Just always remember

You can either sell drugs or work a job

[pallid bough]

o god

[thorn fjord]

Transmitter is a meme

[runic hinge]

I was never good at the latter

[thorn fjord]

Don’t let blizzard get your ass

[median igloo]

is fatebound simming higher than deathstalker in general? or is it just my profile?

[novel star]

no cloak one (1) time

doomed to the rot dimension

[zinc dagger]

So i say this very very new to this (still leveling alt) but reading the guide. Can i just pump garrote and rupture into main target in aoe and let Indiscriminate carnage do the rest or should i tab target for it? and if its loss to just pump is alot?

[runic hinge]

!carnage

[prisma monolith]

Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

• The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
• You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

[runic hinge]

Can be better in pure ST but it currently isn’t for me so it might just be you

[balmy condor]

Yeh it’s better ST for some

[median igloo]

gotcha, ty

[brave swift]

im 632 ilevel and i dont understand how im so far behind on bosses in m+ running

im still averaging over 2-2.5 mil overall in dungeons due aoe

but 700-800k on bosses

feels so off

just did a first boss GB

[runic hinge]

That’s just assa in m+ spec tbh

[brave swift]

650k.

i mean how am i watching these nerds do 15/16 keys doing 1.1 mil without an aug

when i can only do that in raid

just trying to see if anyone notices anything obvious

or if your right on just sin life

[gloomy heart]

Which dngeon is the most PUMP

Stonevault?

[mystic crest]

Stonevault can be pretty good

[gloomy heart]

i feel liek GB is a low one

just did a 8 and did this overall

615

[novel star]

u crank on nw tbh

[static glacier]

That’s a you pulled the boss right after using dm + pot, and it died 3 mins later so you got 1 dm 2 KB and one set of them was griefed by downtime due to mechanics

[gloomy heart]

Was this dps bad

For a GB

[static glacier]

Ain’t no way 650 is normal

Like 900 sure

But below 800 and something went extremely wrong

[novel star]

Idunno depends on a lot more than just the key

[static glacier]

Like kingsbane got parried or something

[novel star]

tank skill/route changes ur dps hella

in any key

[gloomy heart]

Yeah true

I need to CT more my envenom passes it overall

[brave swift]

ya hard to plan cds with pugs sometimes, but i should proably try to save DM for going into boss

[rotund oak]

if u want boss pump sould try sub

its several light years ahead of sin

[cinder bone]

first loot i've won in pug all tier

[novel star]

need greed moment

[runic hinge]

I tried today. Wasn’t as fun as I’d hoped

[novel star]

fatebound is fake news as FUCK btw

im a denier

[rotund oak]

i think its okay,deathstalker is kinda not there in terms of fun but trickster is very cool

perosnally i dont like trickster

coup feels so wrong

[pulsar elk]

If i am trying to sim the raid through droptimizer. would it be best to do max upgrade and then check mark the box?

[rotund oak]

but sub's dmg is there

[patent elk]

ye watched kush pump 2,35m overall yesterday in gb 15

[rotund oak]

personally i dont see anyone outside whispyr,the racoon man and guy.The last 2 dont rly stream so its mostly whispyr

[fallen arch]

NW

If u can handle big pulls

[subtle tundra]

as sub?!?

sub good?

wwwwoah

[median igloo]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[gloomy heart]

Where does GB stand in pumpage

[fallen arch]

Uh

Not great

[subtle tundra]

not very high

NW and SV are the pumpage keys

[fallen arch]

Its lots of st boss fights

[wary copper]

Im pumping in GB if rest of group is low dmg

[fallen arch]

Which is bad for dps stonks

[fallen arch]

Ye but thisnis always the case

[subtle tundra]

i can get close to 3mil overall in clean runs in those 2

now to get a clean run..

[patent elk]

ye as sub

[fallen arch]

Gamer

[subtle tundra]

seems decent

[wary copper]

How do u crank right side SV big pull?? Always feels like i do no dmg there

[subtle tundra]

idk what that means

i just press the same buttons i do every other pull

[weary spear]

varas what build you running for max dmg with subterfuge

i swapped ttk for master assassin but idk just trying different stuff

[rotund oak]

probably because u burn cds before that pull

but many factors into play

[subtle tundra]

the wowhead build im pretty sure

bigger sized pulls -> no sbs

[rotund oak]

i was happy enough to play wat in sv,seems very cool there

[wary copper]

Maybe to low key level, i dont rly understand how many targets to dot up in opener aswell

[subtle tundra]

you need 5 ruptures

[rotund oak]

its very textbook 2 gars=>2 rups

max scent stacks

[subtle tundra]

id play WaT in there even if i didnt like it cause i need vanish to skip the 2 charge boys

[wary copper]

Ahh then im trolling hard

[rotund oak]

yeah pretty much,its like the build was made for sv in my opiion

[subtle tundra]

also

there's 3-4 pulls

where vanish garrote spam

for the silences

[rotund oak]

yeah to lockdown the fear casts

[subtle tundra]

fear casts are whatever

its the other casts

the curses

[rotund oak]

bruh,i only fear fears and totems

ild put faith in my mage dispelling

[subtle tundra]

cause you aint doing high enough

LOL

[rotund oak]

lol

[subtle tundra]

if you dont use a defensive if you have a curse

youre dead

[rotund oak]

yeah pretty much

that sht needs a nerf

totems are the true mfkers though

[subtle tundra]

they have low hp its ok

[left osprey]

anyone know if this is good for m+ or only for raids ??

[rotund oak]

its good

E V E R Y W H E R E

[left osprey]

ok ty

[rotund oak]

you are welcome

[fiery onyx]

When simming for M+, what is better?
Dungeon Slice or Patcherwerk +5?

[rotund oak]

if i dont actively swap to them and breka them myself there is a high probability we wipe.Ppl are being stupid in m+.Im ending up boosting brainrot alts in keys this time around

[subtle tundra]

ofc you swap to them

[rotund oak]

yeah im not the only member in the party

pisses me off tbh

[fierce stump]

whats the lore on that top sikran log

[oak tangle]

I did a sv as an arcane mage and we wiped cause I sure as hell wasn’t swapping to hit them in the middle of touch of magi

[rain wraith]

Man was pumpin

[rotund oak]

im playing frost but i actively let my crit amps drop and comet storm/combo them

[fierce stump]

is the log just cooked?

[rotund oak]

coz ppl never hit the totems

[subtle tundra]

what are you talking about?

[fierce stump]

Check his cd usage?

Was like an instant standout lol

[subtle tundra]

i mean sure

but i dont go around checking random logs cd usage

for fun

yea he misplayed 1 gcd

thats whatever

[fierce stump]

?

[subtle tundra]

ok he misplayed more gcds

whatever

whats the problem?

[fierce stump]

Bruh

[subtle tundra]

oh that

autumn from paladin

probably

[slate crown]

Only plays during 2 mins then afks until they can do it again

based really

[fierce stump]

Lmao

[subtle tundra]

thats just deathmark filter

[slate crown]

wtf is the point in doing anything in between

[fierce stump]

Was wondering why deathmark and PI are alot shorter

[subtle tundra]

for that kill timer you need autumn if you want to get 3 deathmarks

reason 7 billion why parsing sucks

no thankies

guy cant even do his cds properly and gets 100

[fierce stump]

Nah no autum on him either

[subtle tundra]

well he is hacking only reasonable explanation

check him pc

[fierce stump]

lmao

[amber brook]

What's autum

[fierce stump]

Autism

[amber brook]

Ah

[fierce stump]

Im not here to flame this guys log, was curious why we got cdr on everything including items.

[subtle tundra]

im here to flame this guys log

[oak tangle]

his gcd's are less than 1s as well

sure fire sign something aint right

log either sped up

or altered, or hacking

[swift pendant]

Sac brood or spyglass with the on use mastery trinket yall think?

[subtle tundra]

he has .8 gcds wtf

outlaw gcd

[oak tangle]

im just gonna ssume log was altered and the time compressed

[fierce stump]

Makes sense

[oak tangle]

actually, probably just altered for him

lust is still 40s

ooh

no thats a visual artifact from log

yeah time step is jsut wrong in that log

[subtle tundra]

[oak tangle]

30s lust, just hit the log with a 0.75 X

on all timesteps

[gloomy heart]

In raid i usually shiv before kingsbane, is it the same in m+

[oak tangle]

no, as you have 1 charge, shiv the end

[subtle tundra]

no!

[gloomy heart]

i shiv when 8seconds then vanish at 6?

[oak tangle]

depends if you are running subterfuge

[gloomy heart]

I am not

[oak tangle]

then you can, yeah, though in keys it is also sometimes a good idea to save vanish incase you need iron wire

[gloomy heart]

Thank you, could be a huge damage bonus now

[spiral rain]

any EU people know a good forum/website for guild recruitment?

[umbral cypress]

guildsofwow.com

[spiral rain]

ty

[rotund oak]

thats a based take rly

but still

who cares 😉

logs in 2024 are all memes

[umbral cypress]

progrecing ovinax rn i get huge fps drop when addz spawn kinnda unplayable any tips?

[west crown]

petition Blizzard to fix the game

[rotund oak]

or just bench urself

truth is game lags everywhere

pvp,keys,world

raid

[oak tangle]

my brain lags more than the game

can't blame the game

[floral reef]

Logging? Elvui? Plater?

[umbral cypress]

only plater

[rain wraith]

There is plater scripts to remove parasites. Gave me some more fps

[umbral cypress]

can u share it for me plz?

[rain wraith]

At work. Just google ‘’plater ovi’nax parasite script’’ you’ll find it

[umbral cypress]

ok ty

[grim vigil]

2m overall in necrotic wake ok? no aug and we didnt wipe no deaths

[umbral cypress]

got it can any of the other scripts cause fps drop?

[rotund jungle]

Hey peepz 🙂 can somone explain to me why high m+ player tent to siwtch to Subterfuge and escpecially why we drop SuddenD ( i mean its flat 10% bleed dmg ) for 20% crit ( MA ) and Twist the knife

it just sims higher? cause if it sims just similar to SD and Iron wire i dont get the benefit of the "new" build

loosing silence feels sad xD and i need a good side on it

[brittle quail]

cause higher key tend to favor prio dmg

its not about the small mobs

its about boss or dangerous mobs dying faster

also sudden death lose in value the longer the mobs live 10% bleed dmg isnt actually that good our bleeds doesnt do that much

if you don't go above 12 i'd say SD is a must have but after that you can drop it to adapt to what you comp need

[gloomy heart]

Even in low keys i like silence over SD

maybe it’s just my pref

[subtle tundra]

yea its bad and you shouldnt lose iron wire

only reason to play iron wire is if you play keys where doing a couple % more dps can be the difference between timing the key or not

so basically if you do the highest level

[brittle quail]

i mean silence is nice especially if your not with great player, utility is king there is like 4 dungeon where you can make the argument to lose iron wire and that definetely not in low key

[subtle tundra]

might swap off of iron wire to prepare for timing 17

though it might not be needed

on like dawnbreaker

or siegus

[cobalt sphinx]

I cloak or vanish and spell casts become someone else’s issue

[toxic whale]

What to drop for iron wire?

Master assassin or twist the knife?

[subtle tundra]

ttk

[grim vigil]

fuck iron wire

😛

jk

[rotund jungle]

So in high keys we would play MA , Iron wire/ttk, and loose SD

[grim vigil]

yes

thats what i do

12 13

[rotund jungle]

i mean i play atm 14+ need to test it

[grim vigil]

lol by now you should know which dungeon you can go without iron wire buddy 😄

doing 14s and doesnt know when to iron wire is giga sus 😄

[rotund jungle]

i just played all with IW

i play pug mate

in pug its always worth to silence

esp. the chance to also vanish silence again ....it saved a lot of pulls

[grim vigil]

bro in pugs nobody gives a shit and everyone goes full burst, in coordinated teams you need iron wire 😄

what are you talking

imagine doing 14s with pugs and iron wire for them D:

[rotund jungle]

thats BS man .....

[grim vigil]

go play iron wire 24/7

im not gonna stop you

[rotund jungle]

i wanna time keys and dont die to peepz dont kick

[subtle tundra]

its more like the other way

[rotund jungle]

i wanna learn thats why i ask here

[subtle tundra]

the more the coordonated the group, the less value iron wire has

[rotund jungle]

agree to that

[grim vigil]

i never play iron wire ever in pugs no matter the key lvl, and we only play iron wire in necrotic wake mists and vault

[subtle tundra]

well

youre bad

sorry to say it

[grim vigil]

nah

yall not min maxing your talents

for situation at hand

[subtle tundra]

lol

[grim vigil]

yall lazy thats it

[meager jungle]

But playing pugs u cant use not iron wird

[subtle tundra]

nah

[meager jungle]

Wire

[subtle tundra]

im smart

[grim vigil]

gotta let you go here

[meager jungle]

Its literally such a useful spell in pugs

[subtle tundra]

ok?

[rotund jungle]

yeah

[grim vigil]

theres videos of top rogues talking about this

go educate yourself

[empty tree]

Lol

[subtle tundra]

i literally am a top rogue

so?

[rotund oak]

i work 60 hours a week,tell me how lazy i am im interested

[rotund jungle]

😄

[grim vigil]

we talking game leave your private life bs outta here dafuck 😄

[subtle tundra]

i am a top rogue that has pugged and played with team

[drifting cloud]

yeah well hes 2.8k be careful

[subtle tundra]

and i can tell you

[rotund jungle]

could u name the vids?

[subtle tundra]

wrong reply 😦

[feral pewter]

Hey people, where can I read a more in depth guide than the one in wowhead?

Just started playing rogue, and I have two questions:

If there are more than 6 mobs, do I reapply garrote and rupture once more (3times in total)?

Also, if vanish is, for some reason, on CD, and my tank is chain pulling. Do I have to garrote and rupture manually? If I do so, chances are I'm not doing envenom for a good amount or GCDs.

[sudden sigil]

This is some dramatik stuff going on today

[slate crown]

nah this is old hat

IW argument

[earnest remnant]

?

[slate crown]

?

[earnest remnant]

wat u want

[slate crown]

IW argument #239293

[subtle tundra]

your ass, you raccoon

[slate crown]

same result

[drifting cloud]

[quiet oar]

[grim vigil]

ppl who do pugs might value iron wire but i dont so i dont use it

[rotund jungle]

u dont play pugs ?

[subtle tundra]

wtf

[grim vigil]

read the damn sentense 😄

[rotund jungle]

u told so xD

[subtle tundra]

youre giving assa rogues a bad name

[grim vigil]

WE as in my team, and NEVER IN PUGS

aight guys have a good one

[rotund oak]

[slate crown]

Careful varas you might get obliterated again by a pickle again make sure this guy is real and not trolling

[subtle tundra]

fuck

BRO WHO WAS THE PICKLES

[slate crown]

idn but it was funny

[earnest remnant]

me

[subtle tundra]

you cant be both a raccoon and pickles

[earnest remnant]

anyhow

why was u summoned?

i*

[rotund oak]

some dude tagged the sblades

[subtle tundra]

🤷‍♂️

[rotund oak]

[balmy condor]

Tf

[drifting cloud]

missclick nothing to see here

[feral pewter]

Hey people, where can I read a more in depth guide than the one in wowhead?

Just started playing rogue, and I have two questions:

If there are more than 6 mobs, do I reapply garrote and rupture once more (3times in total)?

Also, if vanish is, for some reason, on CD, and my tank is chain pulling. Do I have to garrote and rupture manually? If I do so, chances are I'm not doing envenom for a good amount or GCDs.

Anyone?

[runic hinge]

!carnage

[prisma monolith]

Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

• The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
• You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

[runic hinge]

also wowhead is the guide

how more in depth do you need

[feral pewter]

Thank you!

[balmy condor]

What’s the ping for

[grim jay]

He doesnt find the gem for the poison socket

[balmy condor]

Nice delete

[earnest remnant]

wish i was delete

i thought people wanted to talk to me, and now i just got left hanging while eating my cereal

life is joever

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-jumping-raccoonjumping-gif-24012628

[rotund oak]

stop talking nonsense,u and ur cereal are of great importance

[balmy condor]

!mute @empty tree 2d don’t ping mods for no reason and then scurry off, thanks

[tawny geyser]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[jolly heath]

I dont get it, mist is the dungeon that you dont need IW and you play it

what are you gonna silence in there

[earnest remnant]

mahossive dmg reduction

[grim vigil]

thats what we do tho on tender packs

[jolly heath]

it's 2 kick

[grim vigil]

dont worry about it man 😄 just play iron wire and be happy

yes but at that spot i dont have cds and my ele is blasting i just vanish wire

[balmy condor]

You could never comprehend the mind of an m+ player

[earnest remnant]

im gonna play it and be unhappy, how bout dem apples

[umbral sierra]

ight leveling a 2nd rogue in timewalking, thoughts on which spec i should send it on?

[balmy condor]

The fun one

[umbral sierra]

things prob will die too fast for assa to do anything lol

[oak tangle]

nah

[runic hinge]

yeah but then you're playing sub or outlaw

and which is worse?

[oak tangle]

cause you wont have the abilities that matter for that while levelling

[grim vigil]

sudden demise gg

[runic hinge]

doing no damage or playing the other specs

[umbral sierra]

cant wait for sudden demise to carry me at lvl 10

[umbral sierra]

getting to 80 as soon as possible lol

[grim vigil]

you said timewalking

[umbral sierra]

so play combat yeah?

[oak tangle]

sudden demise is a lvl 65 + option

[grim vigil]

timewalking is available at lvl 10

omegalul

[runic hinge]

I leveled as assa in mop remix and it was fine but idk you kinda get carried by gems there

[oak tangle]

what is omegalul about timewalking at level 10?

[jolly heath]

he is just a troll

[umbral sierra]

timewalking is uber fast leveling rn. 10% event exp 25% warband exp 10% event quest exp 10% dmf 10% hallowend

[umbral sierra]

if u rush sudden demise asap the earliest lvl u will have it is 57

[cobalt sphinx]

and there are level 10s that are one-shotting every monster in the dungeon

[solar lynx]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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[umbral sierra]

also lvl 74's that are 300 ilvl and getting 1 shot by a mob interupting their cast

[oak tangle]

wasn't sure on the level, but yeah not gonna have it at level 10

[rotund jungle]

can someone explain the difference between taking SD and SB? i just wanna understand why one player playing SD and the other has the exact same build just SB instead

[rotund oak]

ehh thought i asked u yday but cant remember if i got an answer about corrupt the blood.. does it benefit from mastery/vers and the plague dmg.. is that an extra component on top of the physical one or all the rupture dmg is marked plague?(sounds silly ik)

[umbral sierra]

yeah def not, ur comment just made me curious on whats the earliest u can get it

[spiral rain]

someone told me there's a weekly quest that gives a heroic raid ilvl item is that fake news?

[oak tangle]

SD = more damage when packs die quickly, SB = faster opener / easier spreading of dots

[cobalt sphinx]

uh oh

what is sb

[oak tangle]

killing illidan in BT

[rotund jungle]

Sanguin blades

[grim jay]

He means sbs tho

[spiral rain]

is that still available ?

[oak tangle]

yes

[spiral rain]

teach me senpai where do i go

[drifting cloud]

join a skip group in custom

[feral pewter]

Shattrath

[oak tangle]

^

[drifting cloud]

somebody will share the quest

[oak tangle]

or just get someone to share it

[umbral sierra]

till tuesday

[quiet oar]

and i mean u r qt

[oak tangle]

only caveat, is you cannot have the BRD quest at the same time

[feral pewter]

You cant have BRD quest tho.

[spiral rain]

ok thanks

what is the BRD?

all these acronyms i cannot keep up bruh

[oak tangle]

the aniversary raid

[spiral rain]

so i just go to shattrath and ask for it

[oak tangle]

or just go to the legacy raid tab and join a group for black temple

and ask someone to share it

[spiral rain]

ok

[feral pewter]

Nah, do as the other dudes said. Join legacy raid to BT, and scream in the raid chat for share.

[grim jay]

I wish, but you took all the cuteness the creator wanted to give to me for yourself

[feral pewter]

You'll have to go to Shattrath to turn in the quest.

[quiet oar]

But why are you still so qt

[grim jay]

I took some from @arctic socket

Else she would be ChibiThresh Onlyfans

[quiet oar]

[grim jay]

No you can just port out of instance and back in

Without leaving the instance group obviously

Then you can just finish it at the npc right infront of you

[quiet oar]

I wish i was the NPC

[elfin bear]

What is the best setup on raidbots to use to sim for M+ 14 keys besides Dungeon Slice. Cleave/Target Dummy x Number ?

[grim jay]

You either do dungeonslice or dungeonroute

Dslice is suggested for gearing

There is nothing else really

[oak tangle]

i haven't done a sim in months

anyone wanna guess what i'll get?

[ripe carbon]

1.3m

[grim jay]

1.321m

[oak tangle]

i predict more

[grim jay]

Depends on your intuition if you didnt sim.

If you had good intuition, maybe 1.4?

[oak tangle]

i am 630

[grim jay]

Wait we talking St or dslice

[oak tangle]

ST

[grim jay]

Yeah without PI I stay with what I said

[restive dew]

this auto use of tea is really messing me up. Is this change well received by rogues?

[oak tangle]

i am ambivalent to it

[ripe carbon]

i dont really care about it

im no top rogue tho lol

[restive dew]

you press one thing too fast and you dont have a charge for when you need it

[oak tangle]

leaning slightly positive, because i rarely have to press it now with the shiv macro

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/utLsyq3MTgWaxUY3CbsyLP

[grim jay]

You will naturally have 1 charge for every kb atleast

[ripe carbon]

im more annoyed with having to vanish garrote after prac without dfoing that for ages, and before that being able to do it - now i cant do vanish garrote

like u used to do it, then they changed to where it wasnt needed - now its back and u supposed to

[subtle tundra]

doing that for ages?

[quiet oar]

LIAR

You said you are 630

but are 629

[oak tangle]

nb 1.4, but the higher the number the worse it is when i can't meet it

[quiet oar]

smh my head

[oak tangle]

629.75

close enough

[ripe carbon]

well not ages but like a couple of weeks