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cunning needle
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wait are we talking parsing heroic or parsing mythic

novel star
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its probably marginally easier to parse on rashanan

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cause u spam blindside procs

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and strat/guild diff for caustic memes

oak tangle
cunning needle
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nah parsing heroic is easier than mythic

drifting cloud
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the parse % on wipes dont show correctly if you looked at that

cunning needle
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anything sub 96 in heroic is probably green/blue in mythic

oak tangle
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it's not so much the difference between difficulties, but the difference btween fights

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in all difficulties i parse higher on rashanan

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it's probably nothing, just a sample size of one, but just made me curious

drifting cloud
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yeah I dont know, could just be noise

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doesnt happen to me atleast

swift moss
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curious, if we have option of last second extending imp gar in subterfuge, or getting an extra env into the shiv+ma window which do we take?

oak tangle
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i send garrote with vanish

serene solar
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So warcraft logs is counting add damage in rash now and we got cooked builds like this taking number 1?

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Smh.... thanks warcraft logs

spice spire
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Sure SmileDog

oak tangle
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not that cooked

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it's the funnel build

serene solar
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Ill just take the blue parse and kill the boss xD

swift moss
serene solar
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Our fury warrior nukes them instantly anyways

oak tangle
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same one for broodkeeper

serene solar
# oak tangle same one for broodkeeper

Yeah but those adds live and I get it there. I just figured these ads die instantly to other specs so we wouldn't have time to really damage them but I guess im wrong

oak tangle
swift moss
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on boss

oak tangle
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yep, only one hitting adds was the fury pretty much

coral ibex
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guild to guild kill time diff is so sick lmao

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i made the right choice to hop

jaunty lotus
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end of grim batol, what can i pop on the single target dot cast?

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cloak, evasion, what else?

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i'm struggling to survive that shit

coral ibex
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vanish and cloak removes it

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if you dont have either of them and you have high stacks of the debuff

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you gotta feint and eva and vial and pray

oak tangle
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laughs in nelf

coral ibex
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that your healer notices

jaunty lotus
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is feint just for elusiveness?

coral ibex
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yes

jaunty lotus
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i was running cheat

oak tangle
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🤮

coral ibex
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there's a lot of unavoidable damage in grim

oak tangle
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cheat is crutch

coral ibex
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i think elu is better

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also yea cheat is a crutch smoke

jaunty lotus
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is it better for assassination

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i used elusiveness as outlaw

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but that shit has infinite feint

oak tangle
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cheat is good for being an idiot, elusiveness is good for living

coral ibex
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its better with this deathstalker talent

pliant remnant
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GUYS

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WHO IS READY FOR A MYTH TRACK SKARDYN'S GRACE IN THEIR VAULT

jaunty lotus
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oh true

coral ibex
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can't relate i got a myth anub crystal

oak tangle
shy heron
jaunty lotus
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does evasion then reduce it by 36%?

oak tangle
pliant remnant
jaunty lotus
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huh, why did i think feint was 30s cd

oak tangle
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nelf is so badass in grim, it's not even funny

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first boss, you can complettely negate a circle, vanish too

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3rd boss you can make sure you dont get the fixate

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and you have some immunity for every single corruptor

coral ibex
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what is the timing for cloaking the orb dot on kyveza?

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is it before the dash goes off or is it before the orb goes off

spice surge
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Before the dash goes of

coral ibex
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ty

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i won't get the orb at all right?

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i can just go back into melee

oak tangle
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Is it an I-frame like sikran or just the lingering cloak

coral ibex
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i can do the true immune if necessary

novel star
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then u dont get orb debuff in the first place

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eleem already answered gg

coral ibex
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W answer

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first night of kyveza prog

dawn heath
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GET FUCKED

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LETS GOOOOOO

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AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

zenith tree
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big

rancid bloom
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gz

marble hemlock
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at work

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youre welcome

dawn heath
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LETS GO

rancid bloom
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is mythic spyglass worth over champion empowring crystal ?

solid light
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i feel like a noob now... 2 weeks away and i feel like i cant keep up lol

solid light
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from WoW

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i guess i need to learn how to read logs that may help me

coral ibex
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doesnt champ cap at 619

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vs 639 myth

rancid bloom
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ye

waxen oyster
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So whats the point of vanish on ovinax

pliant remnant
pulsar plank
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should I go skardyn/ovinax or skardyn/spyglass?

pliant remnant
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I fucking hate this game

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disgusting creation

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brb off to do another 8 +10 grim batols

waxen oyster
pulsar plank
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skardyn/ovinax sims better for me tho

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oh and skardyn 639 ovinax 626 spylgass 626ilvls

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but I simmed 623 skardyn

waxen oyster
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if you wanna deal with ovinaxx minigame sure

pulsar plank
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even though it simmed higher

waxen oyster
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random as hell sim

peak saffron
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you're simming patchwork with aoe talents i assume

strange maple
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I feel weird now that I have 2 on use trinkets

pulsar plank
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ah yeah I'm dumb

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one moment please

spice spire
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!guide

pulsar plank
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same result egg and skardyn sims +30k dps higher for dungeon slice

humble cradle
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Are there no crit/mast leather chest pieces? just wondering why tier chest is bis

vagrant brook
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cause you don't go full crit mastery blindly

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it comes to a point where other stats become better

humble cradle
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i see

vagrant brook
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the bis list assumes max ilvl in all slots

humble cradle
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that makes sense

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vers was the lowest stat by a decent margin last i checked but im only 622 so pretty far off max ilvl

nimble vector
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bis list is fake just sim what you have

humble cradle
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is dungeon slice a independent website or part of raidbots?

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nvm im dumb

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i see it

scarlet wyvern
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how can it be possible that my SIM says
that this is better than the one i am wearing?

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it literally gives me 20k dps more

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1.2%

balmy condor
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are you simming single target

scarlet wyvern
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dungeon slice

balmy condor
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idk probably just on ilvl I assume then, link the sim

novel star
waxen oyster
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hmm patchwerk sim really liking spyglass

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everything but knife is hero

dim shoal
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Is ovinax egg better than Empowering crystal and spyglass in m+?

balmy condor
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probably not

dim shoal
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Got both spyglass and crystal in vault, not sure what to pick

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Sim Patchwork 5 targets or what’s recommended?

blazing pumice
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crystal is bis for m+

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dslice

dim shoal
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Crystal + skardyn bis in that case?

blazing pumice
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yes

torn mist
sonic raven
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i have 90 gilded to craft my next item, running the sim its showing the "do not craft for any reason" Stiletto as largest upgrade, what should I do instead?

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(new to retail, moved guild over from SoD)

oak tangle
sonic raven
oak tangle
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do a crafted dagger with ascendance in the same ilvl

high walrus
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pretty sure you never ever craft a stiletto

arctic socket
high walrus
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will I ever get a single myth piece on this character

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of actual stat weight

sonic raven
oak tangle
high walrus
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5 weeks deep into this character and I'm rocking a single myth piece DESPAIR

oak tangle
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it's acting like stiletto doesn't count as an embellishment

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you can't have 3 equipped

sonic raven
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ah

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oh i get it now

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wtf?

torn mist
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raidbot said ansurek ring sim more than everything

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so........

sonic raven
dim shoal
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Ovinax oversimming in dslice? 626 better than 639 crystal somehow

high walrus
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because you can't use it

drifting lance
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decent ig

high walrus
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since you have 2 embelishments

oak tangle
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second option ideal, cause you keep the embellishment in case you want it again, and also wrist better item to have crafted

balmy condor
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I have collected the infinity stones

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of cringe

undone pollen
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is it dumb to craft a neck or ring if all my other gear wouldnt benefit from a craft

drifting lance
balmy condor
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yeah

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I'm having a grand time

high walrus
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I AM HAVING THE LEAST FUN

drifting lance
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That's good, i'm happy for you.

serene solar
# balmy condor

Holy.... This makes me wanna commit scooter ankle. Just tie a scooter to a swing and let it slam me in the ankle

drifting lance
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anyone elses talents look like this

undone pollen
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you have it set to old Mcdonald

solar lynx
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Is there like a low key build we can run?

drifting lance
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think thats outlaw

spice spire
solar lynx
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ya that's what i was thinkin as well

spice spire
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Sb/sd

novel star
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boss die @balmy condor are u proud of me man

balmy condor
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dub

novel star
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(dont be proud i died twice and my parse is insanely bad)

sudden sigil
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there is shit vautls and then there is this

balmy condor
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I mean the trinket is good

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ilvl sucks though

drifting cloud
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how come everyone does 8 10s but they dont even pug 2 or 4 mythic

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unless youre on extend train I guess

runic hinge
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I want to pug 2 mythic but I’m bad

sudden sigil
drifting cloud
sudden sigil
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well dagger is 0.4% upgrade even with vers due to having HC regicide

runic hinge
spice spire
drifting cloud
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man the first 2 bosses are faster than doing a key

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just join a group thats like half filled

spice spire
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I had a heroic pug wipe to rash

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If you think I ever trust pugs for mythic ur wild

oak tangle
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the worst part about pugs is the inevitable random disband

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and waiting years for a fill if you kill a boss

spice spire
oak tangle
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miss me with mythic pugs

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guild group that needs a dps fill?

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LOG IN

drifting cloud
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but like you dont have much to lose otherwise

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just dont join some complete bozos

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or just ask some friends for an alt run first to have the ✅ for onwards or something

high walrus
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and keep coping about how next vault will be good for sure

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but I'm not seeing the inside of a 14 key with 627 ilvl so I'm about to be forced into pugging mythic

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been doing 8 10's for the last 5 weeks and I have 2 myth pieces

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get me out

drifting cloud
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thats some turbo lowroll

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Im 632 with 1 item from mythic raid thats a dagger

devout schooner
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Is there somewhat of a rule of thumb as to how much haste you want?

drifting cloud
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and im like more than 1 week away from crest cap so could prob get to 634

high walrus
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I just keep getting 2 rings and a back

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3 times

icy acorn
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aka sim

devout schooner
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bet

high walrus
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or some useless trinket

high walrus
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can you raid mythic cross server and faction now

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haven't stepped into mythic since nighthold

oak tangle
icy acorn
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server too

oak tangle
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when did they unlock?

icy acorn
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sometime in df i think

drifting cloud
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week1

high walrus
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oh cool

drifting cloud
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they changed it for tww

high walrus
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guess I need to mythic raid to keep getting m+ rating

icy acorn
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since guilds are cross server/faction too now

oak tangle
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oh, i thought there was still the guild restriction

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nice

waxen oyster
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yeah hmm my sim really likes spyglass

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despite i have so much crit as is

shrewd verge
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yo, can anyone tell me why when I look at the sample ability log of my raidbots sim it always casts Thistle Tea immediately after Kingsbane instead of during the second half shiv window?

novel star
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HOLY no pi rank 4 rash

shrewd verge
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but isn't it better to have that mastery during the second half of kingsbane while shiv is active? for an M+ build with only one charge of Shiv

novel star
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📈

icy acorn
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i have mixed feelings about my vault

drifting cloud
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do you have juiced trinkets or why we dont have crystal selected

waxen oyster
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you take crystal

icy acorn
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im literally still walking around with a 619 wrathstone and 626 ara kara
but i dont really care too much about m+ to take a trinket for it

waxen oyster
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i mean

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sikran neck is better for raid

drifting cloud
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taking a neck just seems like a grief

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and crystal isnt even bad outside of m+

lament oracle
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how well does "dungeon slice" sim work??

icy acorn
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thats why i have mixed feelings
its an upgrade
but not an upgrade i want

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but then again, i can take a socket next week too

novel star
waxen oyster
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I mean any of the passive stat trinkets work

novel star
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dslice isn’t perfect but there’s nothing better to use

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so

waxen oyster
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Although my sim really likes spyglass over sac/crystal

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surprising since i have a shit ton of crit

lament oracle
novel star
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well yeah

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patchwerk sims and dslice sims are going to want different things

lament oracle
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sorry other way around 😄

novel star
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this is expected

lament oracle
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cloak wins in dungeon slice, and i more or less only use it for m+ 😄

i just wanted to check, i know dslice have been kinda bad for some specs/classes in the past

novel star
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Yea

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it’s fine for us

lament oracle
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cloak it is then, thanks guys

novel star
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dungeon sims will never really be great but it’s fine

waxen oyster
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not a rash cloak

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kinda mid

lament oracle
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im kinda low on vers so i think thats why it sims well 🙂

jovial idol
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Haste sucks in aoe

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Has been like that for a while

umbral cypress
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haste a bit to high or fine ?

drifting cloud
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yeah, its just 4k haste ring in ds is going to look bad

jovial idol
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In raid it's fine

brittle lynx
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Hey guys im pretty new to Rogue. Did anyone create a spreadsheet of sorts with all the most important / best spells to Cloak in M+ ?

umbral cypress
umbral cypress
jovial idol
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I don't wanna be that guy but use sims

umbral cypress
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ik ik:)

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do i sim dungen slice or ?

jovial idol
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For M+ yes

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But in general haste is better in ST

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And worse in AoE

umbral cypress
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yes sir ty

high epoch
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
bold jetty
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should I take simbait or spyglass... ffs

mighty vine
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my transmitter smells a puddle and places itself immediately in it when its not jump. I hate that thing

novel star
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i dont think transmitter really counts as sim bait

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its just hard

toxic whale
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When going into a new pack with darkest night do we ambush to apply a mark before applying dots or just consume the de buff once all dots have been applied

novel star
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skip ambush and go straight into double garrote

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consume it after CT+caustic

toxic whale
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Cool thanks

runic hinge
novel star
runic hinge
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I need to garrote less tbh

cursive adder
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Dropped after 40 runs and now its in vault

runic hinge
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I’m like

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I can garrote for 12 seconds

novel star
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got it on run like 45 or so and vault the day after

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rewarded

lament oracle
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i mean getting it in vault still is a worth, even if u "wasted" 40 runs 😄

past oracle
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can you use 2 bubbling waxes? or still bugged

runic hinge
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My breakdown looks like this

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Love me some garrote

torn mist
waxen oyster
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ansurek

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not even a question

torn mist
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Oh ok ok
Thats a dumb question but i need to be sure on my pick haha

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Now i have to get my 4p and this fucking grim batol trinket

balmy condor
past oracle
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ty

jovial idol
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I use bubbling and whetstone

bright tartan
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Hi, does Crimson Tempest have increased damage for each target initially HIT, or for each living target currently debuffed?

runic hinge
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It snapshots

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So the former

jovial idol
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I mean, isn't it always the same number?

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Or am I missing something and you can spread it?

mystic lion
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anyone's caustic spatter not working or bugged :/

rotund oak
balmy condor
jovial idol
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I guess each benefits from the amount of mobs hit by each instance of CoT

steep gust
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What are some good cloak usages for mythic princess?

drifting cloud
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charge or end of intermission, those are pretty much your only 2 options

novel star
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charge is bis

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stops orb debuff application

marble hemlock
long fossil
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yo is sikran neck actually good for us? the stats are ass but it sims to give 15k dmg increase 😮

marble hemlock
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imo 2 is only worth if youre really strapped for DPS and expect the fight to go beyond 6:20 fight time, as the only reason to greed DPS that much is because you really NEED to use KB on cooldown

plain fox
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Hey do we wanna supercharge rupture?

steep gust
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Thank you!

queen cosmos
marble hemlock
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if fight is like 6-6:15, just use KB after you come back from doing your charge+debuff, and then pop your DM that you get at ~4min at ~5min with 2nd pot during execute instead

fast mural
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Da fack Fate is sym

rain wraith
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Fatebound aint bad

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im getting crazy bursts on kyveza prog

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and higher average dps

fast mural
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yea i bursted 4m on kyveza

novel star
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all stats are good

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sikran neck gives more stats than any other neck

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so its good

dusky lichen
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is it worth to have 2 on use trinkets? Skardyn/Transmiter?

tawny geyser
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You can see how my vault was beautiful for the past 4-5 weeks 🙂

novel star
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because one of your stat buffs is going to your bingus solo kingsbane that sucks ass

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only way to double on use is 1 stat trink + mandate

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otherwise you stat trink + passive

long fossil
novel star
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its also nice for your healers

dusky lichen
long fossil
warm lantern
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is there any "rules" for amount of energy going into a kingsbane / deathmark burst, thinking like old arcane where you had small and big burst where you pooled a ceretain amount of mana, assuming that i'm out of tea because some moron of a dev decided to make it auto use on low energy

brave comet
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can someone explain to me why envenmo is used twice there?

warm lantern
brave comet
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shouldnt i use CT instead of the second envenom?

subtle tundra
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fuck shit ass man

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dog vault

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why cant i receive a single very rare loot

warm lantern
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hi mods, thx for keeping american politics out of the discord

unreal fern
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!trinkets

brave comet
warm lantern
brave comet
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i dont get where this says to use envenom twice?

bright tartan
red idol
rotund oak
novel star
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the ct is in the opener though wat?

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like

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these are 2 halves of the same opener

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you press ct and then youre slamming envenoms because ct doesnt need to be refreshed yet

subtle tundra
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guys trump won and i had a shit vault

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...

rotund oak
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u just need to press envenoms when ur KB is active

subtle tundra
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fucking wednesdays

rotund oak
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its simple

novel star
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lmfao

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you still maintain ct when kingsbane is ticking

bright tartan
novel star
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you just dont need to refresh it on that gcd

bright tartan
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haha

novel star
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so that gcd is an envenom

brave comet
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i only use it to refresh?

subtle tundra
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fuck

rotund oak
subtle tundra
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man

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its a dot

rotund oak
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brings me joy

subtle tundra
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it does no damage

novel star
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it says maintain crimson tempest

subtle tundra
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo

brave comet
subtle tundra
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reading comprehension lessons when

unreal fern
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Guys is trinket "Ovi'nax's Mercurial Egg" rly good? Got both this and skardyn in vault... but ovinax one Sims way more... than skardyn

fallen arch
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It says maintain

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U spend with envenom

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U maintain dots

brave comet
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so i literally only need to use it once the debuff runs out, and not really as a spender?

pliant remnant
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I'm off to Grim Batol #62

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This game sucks ASS

rough oyster
balmy condor
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Are you spamming rupture in single target?

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Same logic

balmy condor
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You wouldn’t spam rupture the same way you wouldn’t spam crimson tempest

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They are functionally identical

jaunty lotus
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Do you guys just send the solo KB when it's up, even on a dying pack? Or what do you do when you get to the next pack with KB up but DM on 30 sec cd? Wait for DM or send Kb?

balmy condor
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A bad kingsbane is better than no kingsbane

jaunty lotus
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So send?

brave comet
# balmy condor That is what maintain means yes

maintain's usage there could be confusing because the word itself means "keep" and also could mean "continue." it should say maintain the debuff with your spender rather than maintain it as your spender in aoe

balmy condor
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Ye

jaunty lotus
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Kk

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That 10M health remaining KB

balmy condor
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It reads fine tbh

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You just gotta like

brave comet
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it doesnt say that with rupture

balmy condor
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Oh my god man

brave comet
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the distinction made in the text confused me thats all

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thats why i came here to ask

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why does the wowhead say use envenom twice

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can you not see why someone would misread it

brave comet
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i'm not

jaunty lotus
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Time to change the name again whispyr

high phoenix
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what's the command to get whysper's plater profile?

balmy condor
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You should get a job as an editor you are reading this more closely than any editor for either page

rotund oak
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
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Like this is actually just rot

high phoenix
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ty

balmy condor
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Think about the ability you’re reading for 2 seconds

bright tartan
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I edit innards of my enemies

balmy condor
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And it’s legit 0 issue

cinder bone
brave comet
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very strange, i dont have an issue with this at all

balmy condor
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No, a weird take is splitting hairs on this

brave comet
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i had a question now i have an answer

balmy condor
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When it’s legit not confusing

brave comet
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well, just let this go already

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i already have an answer that this is not the spender in aoe

balmy condor
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Perfect

subtle tundra
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never has been 🔫

brave comet
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perfect

jaunty lotus
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Whispyr, why does SD feel so shit?

balmy condor
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What

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It doesn’t feel like anything

jaunty lotus
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It's doing like 2-3% of my overall

balmy condor
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Okay?

pliant remnant
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tbf I get his point

bright tartan
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it's nice in open world

slate crown
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Turn off details

oak tangle
pliant remnant
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Just cut out the "AoE spender" bit

hexed frost
novel star
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i need to get a deathless ovinax kill bro

balmy condor
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What are you dentgers talking about

novel star
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green on my wcl makes me want to kill myself

rotund oak
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this a troll aight? xd

slate crown
hexed frost
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Ngl i miss the 8% SD overall damage during DF S3-4

brave comet
slate crown
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Asaaaaaaaaaaa

balmy condor
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I open the chat for legit two minutes and I’m already on the edge of Kurt Cobain you guys need to lock the fuck in

subtle tundra
balmy condor
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What the hell is happening

subtle tundra
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trump

pliant remnant
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I'm two days into Kurt Cobaining and I'm three edges behind

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All my friends, they call me sigma, but I'm on my mewing grind

hexed frost
jaunty lotus
oak tangle
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y'all need to become australian, i look at these cooked takes and questions and it sustains me

balmy condor
#

What does this even mean bro

cinder bone
rotund oak
subtle tundra
#

i hope trump raises very rare loot drop chance

hexed frost
#

Ego boost pepe_nice

left osprey
#

is this trinket good for assa ?

pliant remnant
rotund oak
balmy condor
subtle tundra
#

why are you stupid

balmy condor
#

The details bar isn’t big

vestal wren
#

you can't go into stealth if you are in combat.
If you mean with shadowmelt, you can't use stealth after it on bosses (in m+ or raid)

bright tartan
#

but it also buffs bleed damage...

pliant remnant
#

This one talent point isn't my top damage

#

clearly poo poo

balmy condor
oak tangle
jaunty lotus
#

Fuu is taking you guys seriously

subtle tundra
#

fuu always is

jaunty lotus
#

Bless his heart

balmy condor
bright tartan
#

if we want to talk about truly trash talents

balmy condor
#

Idk how he does it

hexed frost
pliant remnant
#

fuu is too pure for this chat

#

Bless his heart

subtle tundra
subtle tundra
#

like really bad

left osprey
balmy condor
#

Fuu can read the dumbest fucking thing imaginable and not blink he’s actually insane

#

Just built differently

hexed frost
rotund oak
#

yup

vestal wren
strange maple
#

@balmy condor mad queen trinket have cast time

oak tangle
subtle tundra
balmy condor
subtle tundra
#

what does your dps with another build have to do with bleed build

subtle tundra
#

youre just bad

strange maple
subtle tundra
#

bleed is good

strange maple
#

so i was puzzled why my deathmark not castying haah until i found out mad quueen trinket have cast time

hexed frost
# subtle tundra ok?

bleed sims lower for me. TTK MA more fat burst. Me want fat veiny juicy bursts.Surebud

balmy condor
hexed frost
slate crown
strange maple
bright tartan
balmy condor
subtle tundra
#

sbs sims lower => sbs bad ?!??!?!?!?

jaunty lotus
#

Whispyr, is dropping KB still a gain in m+ or was that just an incomplete sim?

rotund oak
strange maple
#

ahhh no wonder i did lwoer dps compared to the ara kara trinket

hexed frost
balmy condor
hexed frost
vestal wren
jaunty lotus
#

Can you share this mythical kbless build?

balmy condor
#

I can’t

left osprey
#

guys any tips how to easier maintain dots some mouseovers or smth

balmy condor
#

I don’t have them

subtle tundra
royal lantern
royal lantern
#

:3

jaunty lotus
#

Do you remember where you put the KB point?

subtle tundra
novel star
slate crown
novel star
oak tangle
#

i wish i werent allergic to cats, it'd be cool to have one

subtle tundra
#

yea its a fatebound and chill kind of raid tomorrow

vestal wren
# subtle tundra what did i do babe...

well simulations are basically a re-implementation of the game^^
And the actor plays the game just like you would.
So technically, simulations = gameplay

rotund oak
slate crown
#

Yeah I need a chill kind of raid tomorrow

novel star
#

its so funny i switched guilds and day 1 i pass my old guild aintnoway

royal lantern
vestal wren
#

but i think your point was that simulations can make decisions that are not ideal

jaunty lotus
balmy condor
slate crown
#

Oh no

novel star
#

no mark no orbs

jaunty lotus
#

Oh that's going to the feet vault

vestal wren
#

but statistically irrelevant because of the low impact

novel star
#

you just cancervibe

jaunty lotus
#

Whispyr wen feet only fans?

subtle tundra
#

etc

balmy condor
#

Fatebound bangs hard on kyveza

royal lantern
balmy condor
novel star
#

u just go elusiveness and feint no?

balmy condor
#

You’re so insanely tanky even without it

vestal wren
#

will anyone spend time on super specific stuff like this ?

rotund oak
vestal wren
#

no

runic hinge
#

I'm about to swap

novel star
#

@balmy condor does the fb sim macro cb 2 kb or slam two between each dm then hold

oak tangle
#

This is my brothers cat, if I go to his house I break out sneezing for the day

runic hinge
#

you can't stop me

vestal wren
#

assassinations aoe damage in keys is just rly rly good, and people love big numbers

balmy condor
vestal wren
#

keys are kinda the main content now, raid isn't the primary thing people play

novel star
#

kb macro loses a cast doesnt it Hmmge

jaunty lotus
#

And assa has iron wire

balmy condor
#

THINK

vestal wren
#

sub has a chance in 11.1

novel star
#

am i braindead

vestal wren
#

possibly

novel star
#

IM THINKING MAN

subtle tundra
#

i might learn sub to play it in dungeons where sub would be good(idk where that is)

balmy condor
#

THINK OLI

novel star
#

mannnn im trying so hard to think

rotund oak
royal lantern
novel star
#

u know what

#

ur right man

#

its 45 seconds not 40

#

i have aids

vestal wren
novel star
subtle tundra
vestal wren
#

big boost to cleave damage

subtle tundra
#

share?

royal lantern
#

just macro it

#

lol

novel star
#

yea i legit thought cb was 40 for some reason

royal lantern
#

shit ass cringe tree anyway

novel star
#

i think eye beam brainrot fried me

balmy condor
# novel star i have aids

Even with the aids, the cooldowns doesn’t start until you consume the charges so it’s more like 50-52 seconds cd

#

So it’s double aids

oak tangle
#

how does outlaw interface with trickster, nimble flurry just sounds irrelevant

rotund oak
novel star
#

so i have cancer

#

on top of aids

#

stacked debuffs

balmy condor
#

Brainworm + tapeworm wombo combo

subtle tundra
#

cloak it?

vestal wren
novel star
vestal wren
#

deathstalker on single target

#

is rough

novel star
#

ds is fun

vestal wren
novel star
rotund oak
jaunty lotus
#

I dislike ds on assa as well, always forget to open with ambush

subtle tundra
#

so... after playing for a while, whats the conclusion of the hero talents? do we still wish for reworks

novel star
#

i am very sad they have no visual or audio or thematic impact at all

#

or gameplay impact on fb

#

but i like ds with the bugfixees

jaunty lotus
novel star
#

Ye bro chungus 2 inch coin on the ground

subtle tundra
#

yea if you zoom in on your character

royal lantern
jaunty lotus
#

Someone actually noticed it and asked about it on voice when I was playing outlaw

royal lantern
#

failed as fuck system that is halfassed as hell

jaunty lotus
#

In a dungeon

royal lantern
#

covenants had more thought behind them

subtle tundra
#

well its also supposed to be a forever system

#

so they can iterate

novel star
#

like

#

i play with a hunter and see the cool blue owl animation

#

and then i look at a little tiny purple X for deathstalker mark

#

or a coin on da floor

subtle tundra
#

ive never seen it...

novel star
#

depressing :(

#

or i play my dh and i explode green every time i use a demonsurge

#

u can feel it

#

the visuals exist

hexed frost
novel star
#

we deserve that...

hexed frost
jaunty lotus
#

Honestly, FB coin toss should cost 1 gold every time you use it

#

Need more gold sinks in this game

jaunty lotus
#

It would feel flavourful, seeing the coin on the ground would be a lot more impactful if it actually costed a gold coin

slate crown
#

are you suggesting our damage

#

Should scale with the gold we have?

jaunty lotus
#

No

slate crown
jaunty lotus
#

Just cost 1 gold every time you toss a coin as fb

#

Or disable if you don't have 1 gold coin to toss on the ground

oak tangle
slate crown
#

Ye

#

Unit to raid or smart group

crisp stream
#

anyone got just the ttk wa? envenom stacks one

slate crown
#

Display tab anchor to unit frames

crisp stream
#

and a cursor wa 😛 the circle one

slate crown
prisma monolithBOT
oak tangle
slate crown
#

Does the WA not anchor properly when you do that? I figured it would be smart enough

#

Idn though I don’t do much unit frame stuff but I made one to track beacon once and it worked pretty easily

oak tangle
#

nah it (specifically with elvui) will put it on frame1, but trigger with party4 buff etc

slate crown
#

Oh I don’t use ElvUI

#

Though I figure WA would still be smart enough

#

I probably can’t help much more, or at least not efficiently compared to WA discord

oak tangle
#

must be the way elvui restructures i guess

final star
oak tangle
#

ideally i need a trigger where it grabs the "unitid" from the unitframe its attached to

royal lantern
slate crown
#

Unit tokens should also be in the state I think, should look at the state table given by a trigger event

orchid pewter
toxic whale
#

Which slot should be an offpiece if I only do m+? Or it's best to have all 5 slots tier set?

vestal wren
novel star
#

spyglass > egg becuse spyglass icon is cooler than egg icon

#

they look so Correct together

#

autism sorry

orchid pewter
balmy condor
#

I’m cooked

#

Will have to game out of my mind on Thursday

balmy condor
#

Collect orb but I can’t because I need to stand still to lower my stacks

novel star
#

Noway ur actually playing around egg

#

cooked beyond belief

balmy condor
#

I have been practicing stutter stepping because ovi’nax egg only checks on tick

#

So you can effectively orbwalk

royal lantern
#

bro thats peak insanity

wise pike
#

/plater

royal lantern
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
royal lantern
#

@wise pike

wise pike
royal lantern
runic hinge
#

Isn’t not hitting like 4% tops?

#

Basically the same as if you played DS at that point

heavy canopy
#

I need some help... Sim says take dagger (I already have a crafted 636), but Seal is rare and I don't expect to kill mythic Queen anytime soon... What do you guys think?

balmy condor
#

ring ez

heavy canopy
#

I guess my real question is, is that ring on Hero track better than other rings on Myth track?

#

Ring, hmm

hexed frost
#

@subtle tundra bleed build is 4.3% DSlice loss over TTK+MA

#

World of Feelcraft or World of Simcraft?

toxic whale
#

When do I switch between sudden demise and twist the knife in m+? Also is getting iron wire such a huge dps loss?

orchid pewter
warm vortex
#

LETYS FUCKING GO

#

MYTHIC GRACE!!!!!!!!!

orchid pewter
warm vortex
#

And a 12 mists so a free key

toxic whale
warm vortex
#

God im so happy

#

lets see if my alts get as lucky

orchid pewter
#

Most top rogues have a shotcaller and planned out cc/kicks

#

If you are pugging or semi pugging iron wire is insane value

toxic whale
#

What to drop for it then Since master assassin became so good

orchid pewter
#

You drop master assasin

warm vortex
#

???????????

#

Why would you ever drop ma

orchid pewter
#

In dungeons

bright timber
#

Neck for sure right? Sim says ring

heavy canopy
warm vortex
#

Ma rocks in dungeons at least from what ive played

orchid pewter
#

What kinda keys do you play?

fickle light
#

Do you not just drop sanguine blades or whatever it's called

orchid pewter
hexed frost
#

What next. No-KB M+ builds?

orchid pewter
rare isle
#

Sim talents 😏😏😏😏

fickle light
#

I mean I'm fairly new to Assa and my overall is still good without sb

warm vortex
#

Again i might be wrong after the rebalances but i remember people saying you still run MA

orchid pewter
warm vortex
#

Oh if it's a playstyle thing then yea

#

fair play

#

i can undestand disliking that

#

Im running double vanish and sub

hard garnet
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
solid venture
#

Since when are we cosplaying zerocool?

warm vortex
#

so i use it because im in stealth a bit more
(Not 2x as much because thats not how WoT works)

little cobalt
#

for simming assass we go for dung slice or 5 target / 1 target 5 mins ?

thorny harness
#

has to be mandate right

warm vortex
#

Uhh

#

idk

orchid pewter
warm vortex
#

i think crystal is fucking huge

#

id say

#

as always

#

SIM

#

because it gives you an idea of how it is

keen glade
#

fuck you guys with those vaults really 😄 , what i have to do to take skardyn or a good ring

icy acorn
#

pray to god

#

and be a good boy

keen glade
#

maybe sell my soul to devil

balmy condor
thorny harness
#

im simming lets see

warm vortex
warm vortex
gilded wasp
#

What should i take beetween myth Crit vers boots and myth spyglass ? I have hc skardyn + crystal, sim told me boots in aoe and spyglass in st

keen glade
#

ye im better now , ty

gilded wasp
warm vortex
#

its as simple as that

gilded wasp
#

Did you read me ?

orchid pewter
gilded wasp
#

Okok thanks

warm vortex
#

And the answer is still the same

orchid pewter
#

Spyglass is a bit poopy in m+

warm vortex
#

sim again

#

and do it

#

HARDER

frigid sonnet
#

For Assa what’s the talent hero?

gilded wasp
warm vortex
#

in st i just swap crystal for sac

karmic stream
#

Is seal big worth even in hero compared to myth rings?
I have simmed it just curious about the vibes

warm vortex
#

Dude

#

that vault makes me vomit

#

thats so unlucky minus the

#

GOD RING

#

i assume so?
what were the sim tho

karmic stream
#

Myth bloodbound ring technically sims higher, but i feel like ill never see seal again

warm vortex
#

That could be true yea

#

Reminds me

#

i have a warrior in my guild that has gotten the gear boomerang in vault 3 weeks in a row

#

it would be so fucking funny if he gets it again

#

This week has been amazing for my rogue

karmic stream
#

I have gottten 3 myth track trinkets, boomeran is 2 of those

warm vortex
#

mythic blood-kissed and mythic grace

#

Ouch

#

Ive gotten ara kara sacbrood on m,ythjic 2 times

#

on 2 diffrenct characters
so this game loves me

bright timber
#

Insignia neck sims lower than ring, but I can prob craft ring instead. So neck makes sense, right?

warm vortex
#

Persoanlly yea|
Neck is super rare i assume so id say take

crisp stream
#

Quick question, with ttk in m+ how much envenom uptime should be there? Overall

warm vortex
#

more than 0%

crisp stream
#

Imagine having 0% lel

silk imp
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
keen spruce
#

so more than that

west crown
#

Raid 90% is what you should aim for

keen spruce
#

he's talkin about m+

#

i had 73% in the wake i did

#

without ttk

crisp stream
#

Damn, I am around 75%, 95 is next target I guess

keen spruce
#

so yeah more than that

warm vortex
#

Tjhis makes me want to try the DS TTK build again but playing without bonespike feels weird

keen spruce
#

you can drop SD

#

and keep bone spike

warm vortex
#

Probnlem is

#

i dropped doom blade

#

and SBS

#

for DS and TKK

keen spruce
warm vortex
#

TTK i mean

keen spruce
#

oh just skip DS

warm vortex
#

You look at log buffs to see your envenom uptime

keen spruce
#

and drop SD for TTK

warm vortex
#

oh yikes i had 60% in a NW

crisp stream
#

Got a rough figure, thanks for info

warm vortex
#

I played with just TTK and DS
or rather builds that ran both and a build that had only TTK
and the double up fgelt better

drifting wing
#

on bloodhound horror
can you keep attacking the boss while in the add phase and splatter the adds?

warm vortex
#

This prolly explains why caustic was low F

vestal fractal
#

Good morning. I just got Myth Track Deadeye Spyglass, but somehow it sims lower than my CHAMP track ascendancy serum with the heroic queens mandate i got? Wowhead claims spyglass is BiS

frigid sonnet
#

So for raid or m+ DS or Fatebiund?

normal mist
#

Yes

warm vortex
#

i belive you can run both

vestal fractal
#

I just dont want to have any more casttime trinkets 😢 I am DS in both

warm vortex
#

also hi royal

normal mist
#

Hi vendeten ASnarulove

warm vortex
#

I just run DS over Fate because i prefer it

#

You doing swell :D

#

good vault?

normal mist
#

No idea, waiting for GF to wake up and check

warm vortex
#

Fair

normal mist
#

Got a myth track there

warm vortex
#

i got mythic grace and a 12 tirna scythe so literally a perfect vault X)

normal mist
#

Hopefully won't be trash

warm vortex
#

It wenmt same as last week

#

rogue and warrior getting good shit and druid getting fucked

warm vortex
#

Actually taken my first tokens this season

#

on druid

normal mist
#

I'm fine with my rogue being 626

#

10s are an headache

keen spruce
#

or dungeon slice?

normal mist
#

Might start playing my ret that I just finished leveling soon

keen spruce
#

and is the spyglass fully upgraded?

normal mist
#

Trust me, it's not because of fotm

warm vortex
#

But yea after vault

#

looking even better

#

630 is this week
maybe even 631

#

depends

#

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

onyx rock
normal mist
# warm vortex

I really need to craft a pair of bracers to get a 626 belt, my 619 one is stinky

warm vortex
#

I have ascendance on weapon and the armor banding thing on bracers

#

i need my ring game though
cause due to not having too much gold

#

ill only socket an item if it either comes w a socket or is a mythic item i wont replace

normal mist
junior flame
#

not sure if i pick myth track whisperer feet which are bis, or myth track tier >_<, already have 636 feet whilst 626 tier

normal mist
#

Had double dawn

junior flame
#

feet are less common to get specific ones i guess

warm vortex
#

because the only time youll get it is from raid or vault

lavish geyser
#

is this a good option for a neck? I dont rly know how much haste assa wants

warm vortex
#

and if you don't have myth tier id say mis tier

#

Sim mister bondo

#

also what on earth are you doing in the assa channel

#

i don't think ive ever seen you here

junior flame
#

Vendeten, all 3 options are myth track

lavish geyser
warm vortex
junior flame
#

ah, my current feet is crafted ^^

warm vortex
west crown
warm vortex
#

Yea
still i would personally go for mythic tier but it depends on how much higher boots sim

icy acorn
lavish geyser
west crown
#

begone OL

warm vortex
#

whaat about purp pull

west crown
#

purp is red and blue

icy acorn
#

purple and orange are the supreme overlords

#

green are close to it

warm vortex
#

Acc idk why i still have

#

the sub tag

#

i don't play that anymore g

icy acorn
#

because deep down you wish sub was fun again

warm vortex
#

How do you get the roles again

#

Maybe idk im loving assa rn

#

Also holy shit pug hearlers are on another level of bad
Was doing som quick 10s last night with a premade and my friend was doing better than most pug healers as a 606 disc lol